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| Re: PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #61010 is a reply to message #61005] |
Tue, 06 December 2005 12:43   |
Chris Wargo
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Registered: November 2005
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he time to build, administrate, trouble shoot, bug fix,
>down load drivers and patches. You guy's talk about band-aids and patches,
>Microsoft software has more holes in it than a sieve.
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>When PC users start Mac bashing, Mac users just shake their heads, we've
>heard the lies for so long we usually have to just turn and walk away.
The
>guys that are brain washed are zealot PC users that repeat old bull shit
>about how Mac suck, and Macs can't do this and that. Some people have their
>heads so far up Bill Gates ass they can't see strait. Please don't repeat
>the same dumb stuff! Find out for your self, and I'm not talking about
trying
>out a mac at a store or library, either.
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>Mike you say Mac OSX crashes, that is pure bullshit! You say, Macs are
extremely
>slow compared to a PC, More dumb bullshit! Not even close to the truth!
> Your talking out your back side. Mike, honestly, you wouldn't know what
>the software on a Mac is worth, because you don't use a Mac. You say that
>OSX was a left turn, if Apple ever releases a version of OSX for PC, you
>will see major erosion in the Windoz market share by general computer users,
>because it's better than Windoz!
>
>As for the four processor in the new G5s and software not being able to
utilize
>the four processors, more ignorance. Mac OSX was written so that the processing
>load of a program is distributed across all four processors. It is not
>necessary to run software that is optimized for multi processors to take
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| Re: PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #61052 is a reply to message #60999] |
Wed, 07 December 2005 00:45 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>>First things first. Applications are run as one or more threads. An appliction
>>can be coded to run as one massive thread or as more than one smaller thread.
>>Some applications lend themselves to running as multiple threads very well
>>(an audio app, for example, which can quite efficiently have threads for
>>every plug-in, every EQ, the mix engine, graphics, etc.) and some do not
>>(an SSH file transfer, for example, or a database query). Each thread has
>>to be assigned to a processor, and can't run on more than one. So, if you
>>have a quad processor machine (any platform, any OS) and your machine is
>>running three threads then one of the processors by definition will not
>be
>>used. So it *is* necessary for software to be coded to use multiple processors,
>>save that maybe the app can swamp one while the rest of OS is multi-threaded.
>>So we all can learn more and do some more reading when it comes to computers.
>>
>>
>>As I've said here recently, to me OS X and M$oft OS's are simply two sides
>>of a nearly identical coin. Neither grants their users the right to change
>>the platform for the better. Neither allows users to share their modifications
>>and improvements with othe
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| Re: PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #61053 is a reply to message #60999] |
Wed, 07 December 2005 01:20 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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rs. Neither compels other to offer similar freedoms.
>>Until one or the other does (ha ha) I'm happy as a clam over here with
Debian
>>and Gnome. Acutally I think Gnome beats the daylights out of both OS X
and
>>XP as a desktop.
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>>Oh, I build a PC that ran a goodsized database and serves out half a terabyte
>>of data per day. It's never crashed and has had uptimes of over a year
running
>>XP Server. So don't tell me a PC won't run right if it's set up right.
>>
>>TCB
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>>"A Mac User" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I agree completely. OSX was a big left turn, too. That spinning pizza
>>>is
>>>>just completely unacceptable. They crash if they don't have enough ram.
>>>>They're extremely slow compared to a PC (which will change when they
use
>>>>PC chips). And, they are very expensive for what the hardware and software
>>>>are really worth.
>>>>
>>>>They had a really nice, simple, clean OS with OS8-9. They saved a lot
>>of
>>>>money not having to develop an OS from the ground up by going with UNIX,
>>>>but they lost most of what made Apple wonderful and unique, too.
>>>>
>>>>Just my 2 cents. :)
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>
>>>Mike, what you should do, is actually us Mac OSX for some time before
commenting
>>>on it. It is obvious to me, that you are repeating the same ignorant
stuff
>>>some other ignorant PC user told you, or yo
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| Re: PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #61055 is a reply to message #61053] |
Wed, 07 December 2005 08:09 |
Chris Wargo
Messages: 45
Registered: November 2005
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at you'd
>>be
>>>saying. I don't think you would give up your XP box right away because
>>there
>>>would be some proprietary software you wouldn't want to give up, although
>>>you could run XP on your Mac. What would happen is you would end up using
>>>your Mac for 90% of your computing, and you would start to think that
XP
>>>is more of a PITA to use.
>>>
>>>Why would you use a Mac over your PC??? Because it is hassle free computing,
>>>it's fast and it just works! It is a more pleasurable experience. You
>>don't
>>>have to be a security administrator, worms and other viruses are not so
>>much
>>>an issue. Pop ups, spy-ware, are not much of an issue either. You don't
>>>have to tweak and fuss with your computer to get it to work. PC guys
are
>>>constantly trouble shooting and tweaking their computers. It is amazing
>>>to me that there is supposed to be standardized hardware for a PC, but
>a
>>>lot of it doesn't work with out trouble shooting, that is such a hassle.
>>> The amount of buggy software sold retail for the PC amazes me. All
the
>>>B.S. PC users must put up without much complaint, simply amazes me. A
>lot
>>>of time is lost on trying to debug and get PCs to work. For the most
part,
>>>the hassle factor doesn't exist with a Mac.
>>>
>>>
>>> A Mac, works differently than a PC, once you understand how a Mac works,
>>>then you will understand why Mac users are somewhat fanatical. I'll put
>>>it this way, Mac users are fanatical about their Macs, because they've
>used
>>>PCs, and know a Mac is better. I personally use both platforms and have
>>>for years. I use XP and 2000 for what I have to, and I use a Mac for
the
>>>other 80% of my computing. The Mac is simply less headaches. It is less
>>>time consuming, and time is money. PC users always talk about how much
>>cheaper
>>>a PC is than a Mac because of the hardware cost. It's not cheaper when
>>you
>>>figure in time, the time to build, administrate, trouble shoot, bug fix,
>>>down load drivers and patches. You guy's talk about band-aids and patches,
>>>Microsoft software has more holes in it than a sieve.
>>>
>>>When PC users start Mac bashing, Mac users just shake their heads, we've
>>>heard the lies for so long we usually have to just turn and walk away.
>
>>The
>>>guys that are brain washed are zealot PC users that repeat old bull shit
>>>about how Mac suck, and Macs can't do this and that. Some people have
>their
>>>heads so far up Bill Gates ass they can't see strait. Please don't repeat
>>>the same dumb stuff! Find out for your self, and I'm not talking about
>>trying
>>>out a mac at a store or library, either.
>>>
>>>Mike you say Mac OSX crashes, that is pure bullshit! You say, Macs are
>>extremely
>>>slow compared to a PC, More dumb bullshit! Not even close to the truth!
>>> Your talking out your back side. Mike, honestly, you wouldn't know
what
>>>the software on a Mac is worth, because you don't use a Mac. You say
that
>>>OSX was a left turn, if Apple ever releases a version of OSX for PC, you
>>>will see major erosion in the Windoz market share by general computer
users,
>>>because it's better than Windoz!
>>>
>>>As for the four processor in the new G5s and software not being able to
>>utilize
>>>the four processors, more ignorance. Mac OSX was written so that the
processing
>>>load of a program is distributed across all four processors. It is not
>>>necessary to run software that is optimized for multi processors to take
>>>advantage of multi p
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| Re: PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #61068 is a reply to message #61061] |
Wed, 07 December 2005 11:55 |
Chris Wargo
Messages: 45
Registered: November 2005
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I add any keyboard tracks in sonar...(piano, organ)
>>3. With three clicks at the beginning, I import and line up those tracks
> one
>>at a time into Paris
>>4. Usually just record the Bass Guitar direct to Paris
>>5. I add my Guitar tracks with Guitar Port
>>6. I record my live tracks in the Iso booth (C16 with long cable is handy
>
>>here)
>>7. I mix down in Paris using mostly the included effects
>>8. I render out and master in Soundforge
>>9. I burn CD in CD Architect
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>>And hopefully, with the new reference speakers, the CDs will sound good.
>>
>>However, when I read the posts on here, I hardly know what a lot of the
>
>>equipment I hear talked about even is.
>>
>>What I need to know is, is there an area in my studio or process that is
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>>missing that could take me to the next level?
>>If you inherited this studio, what would you add/change to it?
>>
>>I know some of it is based on music styles/personal preferences, however,
> is
>>there something here that I am obviously overlooking?
>>
>>Thank you for taking the time to read and respond!
>>Greg Bratton
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>it seems these boards are competing with each other.
Only in John Oram's mind... ;-)Ha!
Tony
"Chris Wargo" <na@na.na> wrote in message news:439733a0$1@linux...
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>>it seems these boards are competing with each other.
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> Only in John Oram's mind... ;-)"DC" <dc@spamthemoon.com> wrote:
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>http://www.hottieamps.com/
Wonder if they do old fridges and stoves?
I need a "stack!"What about an 8 slice???
David.
Mike Claytor wrote:
> "DC" <dc@spamthemoon.com> wrote:
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>>http://www.hottieamps.com/
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> Wonder if they do old fridges and stoves?
>
> I need a "stack!"Hi Greg,
You might want to consider additional microphones and a high quality mic
preamp. The AT4033 is a good large diaphragm condenser but you'll likely
also want a good small diaphragm condenser and some type of dynamic mic (i.e.
Shure SM57) as well. Neumann, Shure, AKG, and many others make good quality
small diaphragm condensers. Some of the better Chinese mics also sound very
good, especially on acoustic guitar.
I won't even venture a recommendation on a mic pre as it's about as personal
as Mac vs. PC, favorite football team, greatest rock band of all time, etc.
If you're recording a lot of rock-style you'll likely want something that
gives you the "Neve" sound. Also, it's nice to have a tube pre for alternate
tonal coloring.
Hope this helps!
Mark
"Greg Bratton" <
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| Re: PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #61069 is a reply to message #61068] |
Wed, 07 December 2005 10:56 |
Tony Benson
Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006
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ref="mailto:gregb@seedfaith.org" target="_blank">gregb@seedfaith.org> wrote:
>In about a week, I will have completed buying (everything) I think I need
>for a real project studio.
>
>I have:
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>Paris 442 + IF2 w/ C16
>Mackie 14ch board
>Electric Guitars
>Acoustic Guitars
>Bass Guitar
>Guitar Port
>Korg N5ex
>Drum Soundfont
>Cakewalk Sonar
>AT4033 Condenser Mic
>Isolation Booth (for vocals, acoustics)
>Various audio programs (Soundforge, CD Arch)
>A slow Pent IV that has seemed to be fast enough to work with all of this
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>and will soon have:
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>A nice set of reference monitors.
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>My question is, I consider myself more of an artist than a producer,
>however....what else do I need???
>
>My current system is:
>1. I program the drums in Sonar using my drum soundfont I like....
>2. I add any keyboard tracks in sonar...(piano, organ)
>3. With three clicks at the beginning, I import and line up those tracks
one
>at a time into Paris
>4. Usually just record the Bass Guitar direct to Paris
>5. I add my Guitar tracks with Guitar Port
>6. I record my live tracks in the Iso booth (C16 with long cable is handy
>here)
>7. I mix down in Paris using mostly the included effects
>8. I render out and master in Soundforge
>9. I burn CD in CD Architect
>
>
>And hopefully, with the new reference speakers, the CDs will sound good.
>
>However, when I read the posts on here, I hardly know what a lot of the
>equipment I hear talked about even is.
>
>What I need to know is, is there an area in my studio or process that is
>missing that could take me to the next level?
>If you inherited this studio, what would you add/change to it?
>
>I know some of it is based on music styles/personal preferences, however,
is
>there something here that I am obviously overlooking?
>
>Thank you for taking the time to read and respond!
>Greg Bratton
>
>So sad about the allergy! A studio without ferrets, such sadness fills my
heart.
Oh, an "eight ball" is an eight ounce of illicit substances--usually a white
powder. A friend of mine who is really into fusion drummers will always say
after listening to [fill in blank of fusion guys who made rock records] "Wow,
how many eight balls did it take to make that solo?"
Good show with Pele.
Seriously, you've got a great start on a nice setup. I was a PARIS user a
long time ago and you're going to love the way it sounds, and Sonar is a
vastly underrated program. You might want to look into the Native Instruments
B4 for organ sounds and maybe a sample instrument for piano, but I think
you'll have plenty of fun usin gwhat you have.
"Greg Bratton" <gregb@seedfaith.org> wrote:
>Will use http://www.ultimatesoundarchive.com/sa/search/srchpost2.cfm for
my
>ferret sounds. Would use legit ferrets, but I'm allergic.
>
>I'm not exactly sure what an "eight ball" is, but if it is in fact a
>billiard ball, you can check that off the list. Got it, check.
>
>And, I will make the attached photo my wallpaper....(well, a larger version,
>anyways)
>
>Now, am I all set?
>
>;-)
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:43972739$1@linux...
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>> You're almost there. You still need
>>
>> - a ferret (two or even three would be better, but one will do, especially
>> if it's a vintage ferret)
>>
>> - an eight ball (f
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