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Savage Macht 6 [message #82828] Sat, 07 April 2007 14:16 Go to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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OK y'all, since I know there are a few guitar heads out there. As most of
you know, I'm very much into the fancy new stuff when it comes to my music.
I'm into hip hop, breakbeats, dub step, software synths, and all of that.
But, after I pop in the phone booth and emerge as my alter ego, I also play
geetar in a rock'n'roll band. With guitar gear I'm positively Holocene in
my tastes. For almost ten years I've played the same amp, a Top Hat Club
Royale, basically an AC-30 top boost knockoff preamp with an AC-15 power
section. I've usually put a power soak on it and played it full out.

So, today I finally had a chance to really try out the Savage that a friend
is selling. In my not so humble opinion I think I've always had some of the
best guitar tone I've ever heard. More than once someone has offered to buy
my Top Hat from me on the spot. The Savage is AT LEAST as good as the Top
Hat. And, more importantly, the most stunning example of class A 6V6 amplification
I have heard this side of a lovingly restored tweed Deluxe owned by another
friend. It doesn't do clean at a level that would be useful outside a studio
(though it's clean tones are spectacular, I think it would make a superb
Grant Green sounding jazz amp), but the breakup goes from gorgeous Deluxe
to surprisingly Marshall sounding when dimed.

A lot of amp makers blackball their one really low wattage model with a crappy
sounding eight inch speaker and a sub par cabinet, I think because it's just
harder to justify a high price tag on a low watt amp. It shouldn't be that
way, but in the very masculine 'size matters' world of guitar players the
6 or 10 watt amp should be cheap. Mad props to Savage for doing things right
with the Macht series, which is a dream for those (like me) who love power
amp grit over everything else.

I'm running them parallel now and it's SICK how good they sound. Not sure
how I'll mic them for recording but I'm able to back off on the crunch coming
from the Top Hat and get more grind from the Savage, letting each amp do
what it does best. It's one hell of a roar.

TCB
Re: Savage Macht 6 [message #82829 is a reply to message #82828] Sat, 07 April 2007 14:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thad,
Post a clip of this monster! Sounds great by your description
but you are a good writer by nature! I'd love to hear it being an
AC-30 lover from way back.

I still use your Cubase 2 book too.
Tom

"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:46180a12$1@linux...

OK y'all, since I know there are a few guitar heads out there. As most =
of
you know, I'm very much into the fancy new stuff when it comes to my =
music.
I'm into hip hop, breakbeats, dub step, software synths, and all of =
that.
But, after I pop in the phone booth and emerge as my alter ego, I also =
play
geetar in a rock'n'roll band. With guitar gear I'm positively Holocene =
in
my tastes. For almost ten years I've played the same amp, a Top Hat =
Club
Royale, basically an AC-30 top boost knockoff preamp with an AC-15 =
power
section. I've usually put a power soak on it and played it full out.=20

So, today I finally had a chance to really try out the Savage that a =
friend
is selling. In my not so humble opinion I think I've always had some =
of the
best guitar tone I've ever heard. More than once someone has offered =
to buy
my Top Hat from me on the spot. The Savage is AT LEAST as good as the =
Top
Hat. And, more importantly, the most stunning example of class A 6V6 =
amplification
I have heard this side of a lovingly restored tweed Deluxe owned by =
another
friend. It doesn't do clean at a level that would be useful outside a =
studio
(though it's clean tones are spectacular, I think it would make a =
superb
Grant Green sounding jazz amp), but the breakup goes from gorgeous =
Deluxe
to surprisingly Marshall sounding when dimed.=20

A lot of amp makers blackball their one really low wattage model with =
a crappy
sounding eight inch speaker and a sub par cabinet, I think because =
it's just
harder to justify a high price tag on a low watt amp. It shouldn't be =
that
way, but in the very masculine 'size matters' world of guitar players =
the
6 or 10 watt amp should be cheap. Mad props to Savage for doing things =
right
with the Macht series, which is a dream for those (like me) who love =
power
amp grit over everything else.=20

I'm running them parallel now and it's SICK how good they sound. Not =
sure
how I'll mic them for recording but I'm able to back off on the crunch =
coming
from the Top Hat and get more grind from the Savage, letting each amp =
do
what it does best. It's one hell of a roar.=20

TCB


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thad,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Post a clip of this monster!&nbsp; =
Sounds great by=20
your description</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but you are a good writer by=20
nature!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I'd love to hear it being an</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AC-30 lover from way back.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I still use your Cubase 2 book =
too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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y'all,=20
since I know there are a few guitar heads out there. As most of<BR>you =
know,=20
I'm very much into the fancy new stuff when it comes to my =
music.<BR>I'm into=20
hip hop, breakbeats, dub step, software synths, and all of =
that.<BR>But, after=20
I pop in the phone booth and emerge as my alter ego, I also =
play<BR>geetar in=20
a rock'n'roll band. With guitar gear I'm positively Holocene in<BR>my =
tastes.=20
For almost ten years I've played the same amp, a Top Hat =
Club<BR>Royale,=20
basically an AC-30 top boost knockoff preamp with an AC-15 =
power<BR>section.=20
I've usually put a power soak on it and played it full out. =
<BR><BR>So, today=20
I finally had a chance to really try out the Savage that a =
friend<BR>is=20
selling. In my not so humble opinion I think I've always had some of=20
the<BR>best guitar tone I've ever heard. More than once someone has =
offered to=20
buy<BR>my Top Hat from me on the spot. The Savage is AT LEAST as good =
as the=20
Top<BR>Hat. And, more importantly, the most stunning example of class =
A 6V6=20
amplification<BR>I have heard this side of a lovingly restored tweed =
Deluxe=20
owned by another<BR>friend. It doesn't do clean at a level that would =
be=20
useful outside a studio<BR>(though it's clean tones are spectacular, I =
think=20
it would make a superb<BR>Grant Green sounding jazz amp), but the =
breakup goes=20
from gorgeous Deluxe<BR>to surprisingly Marshall sounding when dimed.=20
<BR><BR>A lot of amp makers blackball their one really low wattage =
model with=20
a crappy<BR>sounding eight inch speaker and a sub par cabinet, I think =
because=20
it's just<BR>harder to justify a high price tag on a low watt amp. It=20
shouldn't be that<BR>way, but in the very masculine 'size matters' =
world of=20
guitar players the<BR>6 or 10 watt amp should be cheap. Mad props to =
Savage=20
for doing things right<BR>with the Macht series, which is a dream for =
those=20
(like me) who love power<BR>amp grit over everything else. <BR><BR>I'm =
running=20
them parallel now and it's SICK how good they sound. Not sure<BR>how =
I'll mic=20
them for recording but I'm able to back off on the crunch =
coming<BR>from the=20
Top Hat and get more grind from the Savage, letting each amp =
do<BR>what it=20
does best. It's one hell of a roar. <BR><BR>TCB</BLOCKQUOTE>
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Re: Savage Macht 6 [message #82830 is a reply to message #82828] Sat, 07 April 2007 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DC is currently offline  DC
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Ok,

I know you like power amp distortion, but try this:

Take a good OD pedal

I like this one:

http://www.barberelectronics.com/directdrive.htm

and run it into this

http://www.foxroxelectronics.com/
(click on Paradox TZF)

then run that into both of your amps.

Now set the TZF up for a fixed filter (no modulation)
and adjust the depth and manual controls...

You will find a setting that beats the best you got before
by 100%

!

It's just like playing with two mics on one amp and getting
the distances *perfect* and all of a sudden the tone just grabs
you by short hairs...

Only you can do it live.

Un-freaking-believable tone doth result...

Yeah yeah the TZF does all the Hendrix flange-O-rama stuff
well, and that's a cool sound too, but it does this adjustable
stereo comb filter thing like nothing else, and the tone simply
has to be heard to be believed...

DC
with
Re: Savage Macht 6 [message #82832 is a reply to message #82829] Sat, 07 April 2007 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yes, post some clps, dammit!!!

Or if you don't have a place to post 'em, e'mail them to me &
I'l serve 'em up for a reasonable amount of time like I did
with Brandon's drum thingies.

Neil


t> wrote:
>
>
>Thad,
>Post a clip of this monster! Sounds great by your description
>but you are a good writer by nature! I'd love to hear it being an
>AC-30 lover from way back.
>
>I still use your Cubase 2 book too.
>Tom
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:46180a12$1@linux...
>
> OK y'all, since I know there are a few guitar heads out there. As most
=
>of
> you know, I'm very much into the fancy new stuff when it comes to my =
>music.
> I'm into hip hop, breakbeats, dub step, software synths, and all of =
>that.
> But, after I pop in the phone booth and emerge as my alter ego, I also
=
>play
> geetar in a rock'n'roll band. With guitar gear I'm positively Holocene
=
>in
> my tastes. For almost ten years I've played the same amp, a Top Hat =
>Club
> Royale, basically an AC-30 top boost knockoff preamp with an AC-15 =
>power
> section. I've usually put a power soak on it and played it full out.=20
>
> So, today I finally had a chance to really try out the Savage that a =
>friend
> is selling. In my not so humble opinion I think I've always had some =
>of the
> best guitar tone I've ever heard. More than once someone has offered =
>to buy
> my Top Hat from me on the spot. The Savage is AT LEAST as good as the
=
>Top
> Hat. And, more importantly, the most stunning example of class A 6V6 =
>amplification
> I have heard this side of a lovingly restored tweed Deluxe owned by =
>another
> friend. It doesn't do clean at a level that would be useful outside a
=
>studio
> (though it's clean tones are spectacular, I think it would make a =
>superb
> Grant Green sounding jazz amp), but the breakup goes from gorgeous =
>Deluxe
> to surprisingly Marshall sounding when dimed.=20
>
> A lot of amp makers blackball their one really low wattage model with
=
>a crappy
> sounding eight inch speaker and a sub par cabinet, I think because =
>it's just
> harder to justify a high price tag on a low watt amp. It shouldn't be
=
>that
> way, but in the very masculine 'size matters' world of guitar players
=
>the
> 6 or 10 watt amp should be cheap. Mad props to Savage for doing things
=
>right
> with the Macht series, which is a dream for those (like me) who love =
>power
> amp grit over everything else.=20
>
> I'm running them parallel now and it's SICK how good they sound. Not =
>sure
> how I'll mic them for recording but I'm able to back off on the crunch
=
>coming
> from the Top Hat and get more grind from the Savage, letting each amp
=
>do
> what it does best. It's one hell of a roar.=20
>
> TCB
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thad,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Post a clip of this monster!  =
>Sounds great by=20
>your description</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but you are a good writer by=20
>nature!    I'd love to hear it being an</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AC-30 lover from way back.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I still use your Cubase 2 book =
>too.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"TCB" <<A =
>href=3D"mailto:nobody@ishere.com">nobody@ishere.com</A>>=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:46180a12$1@linux">news:46180a12$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>OK
=
>y'all,=20
> since I know there are a few guitar heads out there. As most of<BR>you
=
>know,=20
> I'm very much into the fancy new stuff when it comes to my =
>music.<BR>I'm into=20
> hip hop, breakbeats, dub step, software synths, and all of =
>that.<BR>But, after=20
> I pop in the phone booth and emerge as my alter ego, I also =
>play<BR>geetar in=20
> a rock'n'roll band. With guitar gear I'm positively Holocene in<BR>my
=
>tastes.=20
> For almost ten years I've played the same amp, a Top Hat =
>Club<BR>Royale,=20
> basically an AC-30 top boost knockoff preamp with an AC-15 =
>power<BR>section.=20
> I've usually put a power soak on it and played it full out. =
><BR><BR>So, today=20
> I finally had a chance to really try out the Savage that a =
>friend<BR>is=20
> selling. In my not so humble opinion I think I've always had some of=20
> the<BR>best guitar tone I've ever heard. More than once someone has =
>offered to=20
> buy<BR>my Top Hat from me on the spot. The Savage is AT LEAST as good
=
>as the=20
> Top<BR>Hat. And, more importantly, the most stunning example of class
=
>A 6V6=20
> amplification<BR>I have heard this side of a lovingly restored tweed =
>Deluxe=20
> owned by another<BR>friend. It doesn't do clean at a level that would
=
>be=20
> useful outside a studio<BR>(though it's clean tones are spectacular, I
=
>think=20
> it would make a superb<BR>Grant Green sounding jazz amp), but the =
>breakup goes=20
> from gorgeous Deluxe<BR>to surprisingly Marshall sounding when dimed.=20
> <BR><BR>A lot of amp makers blackball their one really low wattage =
>model with=20
> a crappy<BR>sounding eight inch speaker and a sub par cabinet, I think
=
>because=20
> it's just<BR>harder to justify a high price tag on a low watt amp. It=20
> shouldn't be that<BR>way, but in the very masculine 'size matters' =
>world of=20
> guitar players the<BR>6 or 10 watt amp should be cheap. Mad props to =
>Savage=20
> for doing things right<BR>with the Macht series, which is a dream for
=
>those=20
> (like me) who love power<BR>amp grit over everything else. <BR><BR>I'm
=
>running=20
> them parallel now and it's SICK how good they sound. Not sure<BR>how =
>I'll mic=20
> them for recording but I'm able to back off on the crunch =
>coming<BR>from the=20
> Top Hat and get more grind from the Savage, letting each amp =
>do<BR>what it=20
> does best. It's one hell of a roar. <BR><BR>TCB</BLOCKQUOTE>
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Re: Savage Macht 6 [message #82841 is a reply to message #82832] Sat, 07 April 2007 23:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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I'll post plenty of clips soon. This amp will be getting a _major_ workout
in the upcoming Mold Monkies tracking sessions. I'm not exactly sure how.
Live it will be part of a two amp rig, but recording I might choose one or
the other depending on the part. But I'll get y'all sounds, it's pretty special.


TCB

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>yes, post some clps, dammit!!!
>
>Or if you don't have a place to post 'em, e'mail them to me &
>I'l serve 'em up for a reasonable amount of time like I did
>with Brandon's drum thingies.
>
>Neil
>
>
>t> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Thad,
>>Post a clip of this monster! Sounds great by your description
>>but you are a good writer by nature! I'd love to hear it being an
>>AC-30 lover from way back.
>>
>>I still use your Cubase 2 book too.
>>Tom
>>
>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:46180a12$1@linux...
>>
>> OK y'all, since I know there are a few guitar heads out there. As most
>=
>>of
>> you know, I'm very much into the fancy new stuff when it comes to my
=
>>music.
>> I'm into hip hop, breakbeats, dub step, software synths, and all of =
>>that.
>> But, after I pop in the phone booth and emerge as my alter ego, I also
>=
>>play
>> geetar in a rock'n'roll band. With guitar gear I'm positively Holocene
>=
>>in
>> my tastes. For almost ten years I've played the same amp, a Top Hat =
>>Club
>> Royale, basically an AC-30 top boost knockoff preamp with an AC-15 =
>>power
>> section. I've usually put a power soak on it and played it full out.=20
>>
>> So, today I finally had a chance to really try out the Savage that a
=
>>friend
>> is selling. In my not so humble opinion I think I've always had some
=
>>of the
>> best guitar tone I've ever heard. More than once someone has offered
=
>>to buy
>> my Top Hat from me on the spot. The Savage is AT LEAST as good as the
>=
>>Top
>> Hat. And, more importantly, the most stunning example of class A 6V6
=
>>amplification
>> I have heard this side of a lovingly restored tweed Deluxe owned by =
>>another
>> friend. It doesn't do clean at a level that would be useful outside a
>=
>>studio
>> (though it's clean tones are spectacular, I think it would make a =
>>superb
>> Grant Green sounding jazz amp), but the breakup goes from gorgeous =
>>Deluxe
>> to surprisingly Marshall sounding when dimed.=20
>>
>> A lot of amp makers blackball their one really low wattage model with
>=
>>a crappy
>> sounding eight inch speaker and a sub par cabinet, I think because =
>>it's just
>> harder to justify a high price tag on a low watt amp. It shouldn't be
>=
>>that
>> way, but in the very masculine 'size matters' world of guitar players
>=
>>the
>> 6 or 10 watt amp should be cheap. Mad props to Savage for doing things
>=
>>right
>> with the Macht series, which is a dream for those (like me) who love
=
>>power
>> amp grit over everything else.=20
>>
>> I'm running them parallel now and it's SICK how good they sound. Not
=
>>sure
>> how I'll mic them for recording but I'm able to back off on the crunch
>=
>>coming
>> from the Top Hat and get more grind from the Savage, letting each amp
>=
>>do
>> what it does best. It's one hell of a roar.=20
>>
>> TCB
>>
>>
>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thad,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Post a clip of this monster! =
>>Sounds great by=20
>>your description</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but you are a good writer by=20
>>nature! I'd love to hear it being an</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AC-30 lover from way back.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I still use your Cubase 2 book =
>>too.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
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>>href=3D"mailto:nobody@ishere.com">nobody@ishere.com</A>>=20
>> wrote in message <A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"news:46180a12$1@linux">news:46180a12$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>OK
>=
>>y'all,=20
>> since I know there are a few guitar heads out there. As most of<BR>you
>=
>>know,=20
>> I'm very much into the fancy new stuff when it comes to my =
>>music.<BR>I'm into=20
>> hip hop, breakbeats, dub step, software synths, and all of =
>>that.<BR>But, after=20
>> I pop in the phone booth and emerge as my alter ego, I also =
>>play<BR>geetar in=20
>> a rock'n'roll band. With guitar gear I'm positively Holocene in<BR>my
>=
>>tastes.=20
>> For almost ten years I've played the same amp, a Top Hat =
>>Club<BR>Royale,=20
>> basically an AC-30 top boost knockoff preamp with an AC-15 =
>>power<BR>section.=20
>> I've usually put a power soak on it and played it full out. =
>><BR><BR>So, today=20
>> I finally had a chance to really try out the Savage that a =
>>friend<BR>is=20
>> selling. In my not so humble opinion I think I've always had some of=20
>> the<BR>best guitar tone I've ever heard. More than once someone has =
>>offered to=20
>> buy<BR>my Top Hat from me on the spot. The Savage is AT LEAST as good
>=
>>as the=20
>> Top<BR>Hat. And, more importantly, the most stunning example of class
>=
>>A 6V6=20
>> amplification<BR>I have heard this side of a lovingly restored tweed
=
>>Deluxe=20
>> owned by another<BR>friend. It doesn't do clean at a level that would
>=
>>be=20
>> useful outside a studio<BR>(though it's clean tones are spectacular,
I
>=
>>think=20
>> it would make a superb<BR>Grant Green sounding jazz amp), but the =
>>breakup goes=20
>> from gorgeous Deluxe<BR>to surprisingly Marshall sounding when dimed.=20
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Re: Savage Macht 6 [message #82842 is a reply to message #82830] Sat, 07 April 2007 23:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
Senior Member
Hmmmm, very interesting. For OD I'm pretty happy with my Fulltone OCD. Haven't
tried it with the new Savage but I've been using it for a few years with
the Top Hat. It's a very friendly OD for already gritty class A amps. I was
going to use one of my (unused) Line 6 modeling pedals as a stereo splitter
but the flanger might be a much better option. Considering the rest of my
pedal board (Fulltone Clyde wah -> Moog analog delay -> OCD) it might 'fit'
better.

Nevertheless, as an old geetar geezer, the Savage really is something.

BTW - the other geetar player in the band uses one of the direct drives through
a very nice sounding Bassman and it is a great sounding pedal. I think maybe
more suited to a clean Fender sound than what I get with the full open amps
I use, but still a very fine pedal. The OCD really does kill with the Top
Hat. I think you're a Hiwatt guy at heart, if memory serves, and I bet the
direct drive would be wonderful with those amps.

"DC" <dc@spammersonmars.com> wrote:
>
>Ok,
>
>I know you like power amp distortion, but try this:
>
>Take a good OD pedal
>
>I like this one:
>
>http://www.barberelectronics.com/directdrive.htm
>
>and run it into this
>
>http://www.foxroxelectronics.com/
>(click on Paradox TZF)
>
>then run that into both of your amps.
>
>Now set the TZF up for a fixed filter (no modulation)
>and adjust the depth and manual controls...
>
>You will find a setting that beats the best you got before
>by 100%
>
>!
>
>It's just like playing with two mics on one amp and getting
>the distances *perfect* and all of a sudden the tone just grabs
>you by short hairs...
>
>Only you can do it live.
>
>Un-freaking-believable tone doth result...
>
>Yeah yeah the TZF does all the Hendrix flange-O-rama stuff
>well, and that's a cool sound too, but it does this adjustable
>stereo comb filter thing like nothing else, and the tone simply
>has to be heard to be believed...
>
>DC
>with
Re: Savage Macht 6 [message #82850 is a reply to message #82842] Sun, 08 April 2007 07:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DC is currently offline  DC
Messages: 722
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
I want an OCD...

I'm sure it would work fine for this process. You do want a bit more grind
than you think you do, when using the TZF,

All the distortion needs to come from the pedal for the best tone.
Counterintuitive, since my favorite sound is my Hiwatt cranked, but
very true. When dialed in, this setup kills even the Hiwatt...

DC

"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Hmmmm, very interesting. For OD I'm pretty happy with my Fulltone OCD. Haven't
>tried it with the new Savage but I've been using it for a few years with
>the Top Hat. It's a very friendly OD for already gritty class A amps. I
was
>going to use one of my (unused) Line 6 modeling pedals as a stereo splitter
>but the flanger might be a much better option. Considering the rest of my
>pedal board (Fulltone Clyde wah -> Moog analog delay -> OCD) it might 'fit'
>better.
>
>Nevertheless, as an old geetar geezer, the Savage really is something.
>
>BTW - the other geetar player in the band uses one of the direct drives
through
>a very nice sounding Bassman and it is a great sounding pedal. I think maybe
>more suited to a clean Fender sound than what I get with the full open amps
>I use, but still a very fine pedal. The OCD really does kill with the Top
>Hat. I think you're a Hiwatt guy at heart, if memory serves, and I bet the
>direct drive would be wonderful with those amps.
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersonmars.com> wrote:
>>
>>Ok,
>>
>>I know you like power amp distortion, but try this:
>>
>>Take a good OD pedal
>>
>>I like this one:
>>
>>http://www.barberelectronics.com/directdrive.htm
>>
>>and run it into this
>>
>>http://www.foxroxelectronics.com/
>>(click on Paradox TZF)
>>
>>then run that into both of your amps.
>>
>>Now set the TZF up for a fixed filter (no modulation)
>>and adjust the depth and manual controls...
>>
>>You will find a setting that beats the best you got before
>>by 100%
>>
>>!
>>
>>It's just like playing with two mics on one amp and getting
>>the distances *perfect* and all of a sudden the tone just grabs
>>you by short hairs...
>>
>>Only you can do it live.
>>
>>Un-freaking-believable tone doth result...
>>
>>Yeah yeah the TZF does all the Hendrix flange-O-rama stuff
>>well, and that's a cool sound too, but it does this adjustable
>>stereo comb filter thing like nothing else, and the tone simply
>>has to be heard to be believed...
>>
>>DC
>>with
>
Re: Savage Macht 6 [message #82851 is a reply to message #82850] Sun, 08 April 2007 07:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dc[3] is currently offline  dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
BTW, I should add that this process sounds terrific with any two amps
I have ever heard. I've tried it with 2 different Hiwatts, a THD Univalve,
and a JCM2000 Marshall, in different combinations, and all of them did
very well.

Interesting, but the Barber Small Fry, which I usually love, does not
give enough extra harmonics to really work well with the TZF.

That Savage sounds nice. Now I will have to try one...

DC
Re: Savage Macht 6 [message #82861 is a reply to message #82830] Mon, 09 April 2007 06:23 Go to previous message
Bill Lorentzen is currently offline  Bill Lorentzen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 140
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
Are you just putting the two amps out of phase? I'd like to try that as long
as I don't get vertigo at high levels. Of course I never play at high levels
so no worries.

Personally I have not used a pedal since about '82 when I bought my first
Boogie. Now I use a Vox Tonelab (which I guess you could call a pedal) into
a Boogie Satellite, which is just a stereo extender combo with a minimal
preamp. Sounds bitchin'. I can get very clean for jazz to full on
feedback-my-335 distortion (but still at a reasonable level).

Recently i sold my old MXR Dynacomp and Distortion+ on ebay. I was amazed
anyone wanted them, but it was a lively auction. The only pedal I would use
today if i were not too lazy is a TC chorus. Of course I use a wah wah when
I got the funk.

Have fun knobulating!

Bill L

"DC" <dc@spammersonmars.com> wrote in message news:461813c3$1@linux...
>
> Ok,
>
> I know you like power amp distortion, but try this:
>
> Take a good OD pedal
>
> I like this one:
>
> http://www.barberelectronics.com/directdrive.htm
>
> and run it into this
>
> http://www.foxroxelectronics.com/
> (click on Paradox TZF)
>
> then run that into both of your amps.
>
> Now set the TZF up for a fixed filter (no modulation)
> and adjust the depth and manual controls...
>
> You will find a setting that beats the best you got before
> by 100%
>
> !
>
> It's just like playing with two mics on one amp and getting
> the distances *perfect* and all of a sudden the tone just grabs
> you by short hairs...
>
> Only you can do it live.
>
> Un-freaking-believable tone doth result...
>
> Yeah yeah the TZF does all the Hendrix flange-O-rama stuff
> well, and that's a cool sound too, but it does this adjustable
> stereo comb filter thing like nothing else, and the tone simply
> has to be heard to be believed...
>
> DC
> with
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