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Favorite Mic/Preamp Combos [message #65815] Tue, 28 March 2006 08:19 Go to next message
Sanbar is currently offline  Sanbar   UNITED STATES
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I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly a
preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or a
Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if anyone has
some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.

Thanks

Barry
Re: Favorite Mic/Preamp Combos [message #65817 is a reply to message #65815] Tue, 28 March 2006 08:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
uptown jimmy is currently offline  uptown jimmy   UNITED STATES
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Anything by Soundelux

Microtech-Geffel tube


"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote in message news:442963a8$1@linux...
> I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly a
> preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or a
> Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if anyone
has
> some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
>
> Thanks
>
> Barry
>
>
Re: Favorite Mic/Preamp Combos [message #65820 is a reply to message #65815] Tue, 28 March 2006 08:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mark McDermott is currently offline  Mark McDermott   
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Location: Portland, OR
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Hey Barry,

Based on a suggestion from the inimitable Deej, I purchased an SE ELectronics
Gemini dual-tube condenser and am VERY happy. They sell for around $1250
but I picked one up in mint condition on eBay for half that. Currently using
a Focusrite platinum-series pre but I just ordered a Line6 Toneport UX2 which
has Neve and API emulation so I'm pretty excited to hear how good it sounds.

Mark

"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly a
>preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or a
>Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if anyone
has
>some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
>
>Thanks
>
>Barry
>
>
Re: Favorite Mic/Preamp Combos [message #65823 is a reply to message #65820] Tue, 28 March 2006 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rich[3] is currently offline  Rich[3]
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Let me know how you like the UX2 I've been looking at it also but have been
waiting to hear a review on it first....


"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Barry,
>
>Based on a suggestion from the inimitable Deej, I purchased an SE ELectronics
>Gemini dual-tube condenser and am VERY happy. They sell for around $1250
>but I picked one up in mint condition on eBay for half that. Currently using
>a Focusrite platinum-series pre but I just ordered a Line6 Toneport UX2
which
>has Neve and API emulation so I'm pretty excited to hear how good it sounds.
>
>Mark
>
>"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>>I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly
a
>>preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or
a
>>Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if anyone
>has
>>some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Barry
>>
>>
>
Re: Favorite Mic/Preamp Combos [message #65827 is a reply to message #65823] Tue, 28 March 2006 10:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mark McDermott is currently offline  Mark McDermott   
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Registered: February 2006
Location: Portland, OR
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Will do.

I liked the idea of balanced and S/PDIF I/O on the UX2.

Have been using a PODxt with my live rig (Atomic Reactor tube amp) and really
like it. It's a pain in the butt to keep pulling the 'xt out of the amp everytime
I want to record so the Toneport will at least relieve that problem. Hopefully,
the mic pre and LA2A emulations will be the icing on the cake.

Mark

"rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Let me know how you like the UX2 I've been looking at it also but have been
>waiting to hear a review on it first....
>
>
>"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Barry,
>>
>>Based on a suggestion from the inimitable Deej, I purchased an SE ELectronics
>>Gemini dual-tube condenser and am VERY happy. They sell for around $1250
>>but I picked one up in mint condition on eBay for half that. Currently
using
>>a Focusrite platinum-series pre but I just ordered a Line6 Toneport UX2
>which
>>has Neve and API emulation so I'm pretty excited to hear how good it sounds.
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>>>I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly
>a
>>>preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or
>a
>>>Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if anyone
>>has
>>>some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Barry
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Favorite Mic/Preamp Combos [message #65828 is a reply to message #65815] Tue, 28 March 2006 10:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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any preamp by Forssell

"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote in message news:442963a8$1@linux...
> I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly a
> preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or a
> Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if anyone
has
> some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
>
> Thanks
>
> Barry
>
>
Re: Favorite Mic/Preamp Combos [message #65829 is a reply to message #65820] Tue, 28 March 2006 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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The first link below, the signal path for the femme vocalist is a Forssell
CS-1>SE Gemini. The male vocalist in the second link is a FForssell CS-1> SE
Gemini.

http://www.mercysakes.com/paris/Doug%20Joyce/Tim%20Sullivan- Road%20To%20Para
dise/Love%20Me%20Tonight.mp3

http://www.mercysakes.com/paris/Doug%20Joyce/Tim%20Sullivan- Road%20To%20Para
dise/Heather%20Kathleen.mp3



"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote in message
news:44296841$1@linux...
>
> Hey Barry,
>
> Based on a suggestion from the inimitable Deej, I purchased an SE
ELectronics
> Gemini dual-tube condenser and am VERY happy. They sell for around $1250
> but I picked one up in mint condition on eBay for half that. Currently
using
> a Focusrite platinum-series pre but I just ordered a Line6 Toneport UX2
which
> has Neve and API emulation so I'm pretty excited to hear how good it
sounds.
>
> Mark
>
> "Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> >I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly a
> >preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or a
> >Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if anyone
> has
> >some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Barry
> >
> >
>
Re: Favorite Mic/Preamp Combos [message #65843 is a reply to message #65815] Tue, 28 March 2006 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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Registered: April 2006
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What don't you like about the 4060? Just curious.

Neil



"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly a
>preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or a
>Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if anyone
has
>some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
>
>Thanks
>
>Barry
>
>
Re: Favorite Mic/Preamp Combos [message #65853 is a reply to message #65843] Tue, 28 March 2006 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sanbar is currently offline  Sanbar   UNITED STATES
Messages: 37
Registered: July 2005
Member
Thanks for the ideas. The 4060 on my voice is dark, nasally and not clear.
It seems to take the bite out of everything and smooth it over. I've noticed
that it's a good mic for someone that sings very loudly because it does a
good job of mellowing everything out. I'm looking for something a little
edgier.

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4429ce77$1@linux...
>
> What don't you like about the 4060? Just curious.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> "Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> >I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly a
> >preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or a
> >Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if anyone
> has
> >some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Barry
> >
> >
>
Re: Favorite Mic/Preamp Combos [message #65855 is a reply to message #65853] Tue, 28 March 2006 18:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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Registered: April 2006
Senior Member
Dark... that's what I thought, but didn't want to prompt the
answer by saying so... see if you can get ahold of a Focusrite
Red series preamp & try that with the 4060... see if you like
that combo. You'll put some edge on that puppy, fer sure, and
still retain the fullness. Seriously, try one with that mic if
you can.

Another option for that mic might be a Chandler TG2... warm &
Neve-ish, but with a better high-end than your typical classic
Neve sound... not quite hyped, but more extended & defined,
maybe - is the way I'd describe it. Although if that mic is
already pretty warm-sounding, that combination might prove too
much in that department... might come across as a big "bump" in
the low-mids.

Now, if you just hate the mic overall, but want something to
match up nicely with the Great River, I'm sure you can find
lots of options, depending on your price range... good ol' u-87
never totally sucks (except can be midrange-honk-y on male vox
sometimes, if yaknowhutahmean); TLM-103... warmth of the GR
should help take some of the edge off; and the Baby Bottle
totally ROCKS on male vox, and would (IME) pair well with the
somewhat Neve-ishness of the Great River - I've used a Baby
Bottle through a Neve 1073 & an original LA-2A and it killed on
male (hard rock/metal) vocals.

Another option, since you're looking for a way out of "dark"
territory might be the Blueberry... a totally underrated mic,
IMO, and the top end sounds to my ears almost exactly like a
C-12, while the bottom end/low mids are definitely a bit rolled
off compared to that particular mic... couple that with the
Great River warmth, and you might be happy.

If you want to try a Baby Bottle, and/or a Blueberry, I'd
consider lending you one of each of mine in exchange for you
lending me the 4060 for awhile... I'd be curious to see how the
4060 sounded through My Chandler TG2. We'd have to agree on a
set amount of time for the mics to be away, and each agree to
pay shipping to & from on each end so it'd be fair, but I'm
always interested in trying new combinations that might serve
to enlighten, so let me know if that might be an option you
want to consider.

Honestly, though, I think your best & easiest bet might be to
grab a Muscusrite Red Series & try that 4060 out through that
& see what you think.

Neil


"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>Thanks for the ideas. The 4060 on my voice is dark, nasally and not clear.
>It seems to take the bite out of everything and smooth it over. I've noticed
>that it's a good mic for someone that sings very loudly because it does
a
>good job of mellowing everything out. I'm looking for something a little
>edgier.
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4429ce77$1@linux...
>>
>> What don't you like about the 4060? Just curious.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>> "Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>> >I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly
a
>> >preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or
a
>> >Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if anyone
>> has
>> >some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
>> >
>> >Thanks
>> >
>> >Barry
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Favorite Mic/Preamp Combos [message #65860 is a reply to message #65855] Tue, 28 March 2006 19:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sanbar is currently offline  Sanbar   UNITED STATES
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Registered: July 2005
Member
This sounds like an option. Where are you located. I'm in Milwaukee. Any
other Parisians in this area.

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4429f5f5$1@linux...
>
> Dark... that's what I thought, but didn't want to prompt the
> answer by saying so... see if you can get ahold of a Focusrite
> Red series preamp & try that with the 4060... see if you like
> that combo. You'll put some edge on that puppy, fer sure, and
> still retain the fullness. Seriously, try one with that mic if
> you can.
>
> Another option for that mic might be a Chandler TG2... warm &
> Neve-ish, but with a better high-end than your typical classic
> Neve sound... not quite hyped, but more extended & defined,
> maybe - is the way I'd describe it. Although if that mic is
> already pretty warm-sounding, that combination might prove too
> much in that department... might come across as a big "bump" in
> the low-mids.
>
> Now, if you just hate the mic overall, but want something to
> match up nicely with the Great River, I'm sure you can find
> lots of options, depending on your price range... good ol' u-87
> never totally sucks (except can be midrange-honk-y on male vox
> sometimes, if yaknowhutahmean); TLM-103... warmth of the GR
> should help take some of the edge off; and the Baby Bottle
> totally ROCKS on male vox, and would (IME) pair well with the
> somewhat Neve-ishness of the Great River - I've used a Baby
> Bottle through a Neve 1073 & an original LA-2A and it killed on
> male (hard rock/metal) vocals.
>
> Another option, since you're looking for a way out of "dark"
> territory might be the Blueberry... a totally underrated mic,
> IMO, and the top end sounds to my ears almost exactly like a
> C-12, while the bottom end/low mids are definitely a bit rolled
> off compared to that particular mic... couple that with the
> Great River warmth, and you might be happy.
>
> If you want to try a Baby Bottle, and/or a Blueberry, I'd
> consider lending you one of each of mine in exchange for you
> lending me the 4060 for awhile... I'd be curious to see how the
> 4060 sounded through My Chandler TG2. We'd have to agree on a
> set amount of time for the mics to be away, and each agree to
> pay shipping to & from on each end so it'd be fair, but I'm
> always interested in trying new combinations that might serve
> to enlighten, so let me know if that might be an option you
> want to consider.
>
> Honestly, though, I think your best & easiest bet might be to
> grab a Muscusrite Red Series & try that 4060 out through that
> & see what you think.
>
> Neil
>
>
> "Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> >Thanks for the ideas. The 4060 on my voice is dark, nasally and not
clear.
> >It seems to take the bite out of everything and smooth it over. I've
noticed
> >that it's a good mic for someone that sings very loudly because it does
> a
> >good job of mellowing everything out. I'm looking for something a little
> >edgier.
> >
> >"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4429ce77$1@linux...
> >>
> >> What don't you like about the 4060? Just curious.
> >>
> >> Neil
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> >> >I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly
> a
> >> >preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or
> a
> >> >Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if
anyone
> >> has
> >> >some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks
> >> >
> >> >Barry
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: Favorite Mic/Preamp Combos [message #65862 is a reply to message #65860] Tue, 28 March 2006 19:43 Go to previous message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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Registered: April 2006
Senior Member
I'm in El paso, West Texas. I'm guessing safe & reasonably
rapid shipping would be anywhere from 15 to 30 bucks each way
if you want to swap mics temporarily, if that's what you're
alluding to. The more I think about it, though, from what I've
heard about the 4060, the more I think you'll like the
Mucusrite Red for that mic... are there any dealers in
your area you could check one out through?

Neil

"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>This sounds like an option. Where are you located. I'm in Milwaukee. Any
>other Parisians in this area.
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4429f5f5$1@linux...
>>
>> Dark... that's what I thought, but didn't want to prompt the
>> answer by saying so... see if you can get ahold of a Focusrite
>> Red series preamp & try that with the 4060... see if you like
>> that combo. You'll put some edge on that puppy, fer sure, and
>> still retain the fullness. Seriously, try one with that mic if
>> you can.
>>
>> Another option for that mic might be a Chandler TG2... warm &
>> Neve-ish, but with a better high-end than your typical classic
>> Neve sound... not quite hyped, but more extended & defined,
>> maybe - is the way I'd describe it. Although if that mic is
>> already pretty warm-sounding, that combination might prove too
>> much in that department... might come across as a big "bump" in
>> the low-mids.
>>
>> Now, if you just hate the mic overall, but want something to
>> match up nicely with the Great River, I'm sure you can find
>> lots of options, depending on your price range... good ol' u-87
>> never totally sucks (except can be midrange-honk-y on male vox
>> sometimes, if yaknowhutahmean); TLM-103... warmth of the GR
>> should help take some of the edge off; and the Baby Bottle
>> totally ROCKS on male vox, and would (IME) pair well with the
>> somewhat Neve-ishness of the Great River - I've used a Baby
>> Bottle through a Neve 1073 & an original LA-2A and it killed on
>> male (hard rock/metal) vocals.
>>
>> Another option, since you're looking for a way out of "dark"
>> territory might be the Blueberry... a totally underrated mic,
>> IMO, and the top end sounds to my ears almost exactly like a
>> C-12, while the bottom end/low mids are definitely a bit rolled
>> off compared to that particular mic... couple that with the
>> Great River warmth, and you might be happy.
>>
>> If you want to try a Baby Bottle, and/or a Blueberry, I'd
>> consider lending you one of each of mine in exchange for you
>> lending me the 4060 for awhile... I'd be curious to see how the
>> 4060 sounded through My Chandler TG2. We'd have to agree on a
>> set amount of time for the mics to be away, and each agree to
>> pay shipping to & from on each end so it'd be fair, but I'm
>> always interested in trying new combinations that might serve
>> to enlighten, so let me know if that might be an option you
>> want to consider.
>>
>> Honestly, though, I think your best & easiest bet might be to
>> grab a Muscusrite Red Series & try that 4060 out through that
>> & see what you think.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> "Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>> >Thanks for the ideas. The 4060 on my voice is dark, nasally and not
>clear.
>> >It seems to take the bite out of everything and smooth it over. I've
>noticed
>> >that it's a good mic for someone that sings very loudly because it does
>> a
>> >good job of mellowing everything out. I'm looking for something a little
>> >edgier.
>> >
>> >"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4429ce77$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> What don't you like about the 4060? Just curious.
>> >>
>> >> Neil
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>> >> >I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly
>> a
>> >> >preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River
or
>> a
>> >> >Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if
>anyone
>> >> has
>> >> >some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> >Barry
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
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