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Re: Is this any good? [message #92956 is a reply to message #92951] |
Wed, 21 November 2007 16:13 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/down.png) |
Aaron Allen
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I assume you're keeping the cost down purposely. Celeron will be slower, get
2 GB of RAM on it, and stay away from Vista anything... go WinXP.XP home for
well, home use and Pro if you need to join a domain. For basic house/small
biz you should be good for 2~3 years. Oh, get a DVD instead of CD because so
many things are going to start shipping their installers on DVD now/future.
Besides, for the price difference these days it makes zero sense to limit
yourself over $30-$40 between the two options.
No gaming, video or audio production for this puppy, but it'll do the above
well enough. Don't buy into the demoware crap Dell loads on it with McAfee
or Norton. Instead use AVG for AntiVirus, Zone Alarm for a free firewall and
Microsoft Windows Defender for Anti Spyware. If it doesn't ship with
internet explorer version 7, get the free upgrade to that at microsoft.com
and make sure you install Microsoft Update at the same place (or more
directly, at update.microsoft.com).
AA
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:47448d7e$1@linux...
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> Hey all, Is this computer any good?
>
> Heard anything about it?
>
> thanks
>
> DC
>
> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us& cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=brdd2fc&s=bsd
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Re: Is this any good? [message #92959 is a reply to message #92956] |
Wed, 21 November 2007 22:43 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/down.png) |
dc[3]
Messages: 895 Registered: September 2005
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It's a charity thing for my teenager's youth room at church. They have
NO money and want to do Power Point for lyrics and that sort of
thing. A dual head vid card would be a nice thing, but anything is
better than what they have, as long as it doesn't break. Being that it will
be paid for by a donor who has little money themselves, cheap is really
important. I just want to avoid it if it is a hand grenade...
BTW, I could not for the life of me figger out how to disable AVG Internet
Security! I liked the product, but I had to connect to a DSP box that
uses static IP addressing and antivirus programs almost always won't
let you do that. Being that I was offline, and only using the box, I
needed to disable AVG and could not find out how to do so. Ideas?
I am trying the demo of Eset Nod32 at the moment, and it is easy
to disable, runs fast and seems to slow down other app less than the
others I have tried. Do you like that as well as AVG?
It's funny, I have spent so much time with the PC in the last 2 weeks that
for the first time, Macs seem kind of odd and foreign to me...
Never thought that would happen.
thanks for all the help
DC
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>I assume you're keeping the cost down purposely. Celeron will be slower,
get
>2 GB of RAM on it, and stay away from Vista anything... go WinXP.XP home
for
>well, home use and Pro if you need to join a domain. For basic house/small
>biz you should be good for 2~3 years. Oh, get a DVD instead of CD because
so
>many things are going to start shipping their installers on DVD now/future.
>Besides, for the price difference these days it makes zero sense to limit
>yourself over $30-$40 between the two options.
>
>No gaming, video or audio production for this puppy, but it'll do the above
>well enough. Don't buy into the demoware crap Dell loads on it with McAfee
>or Norton. Instead use AVG for AntiVirus, Zone Alarm for a free firewall
and
>Microsoft Windows Defender for Anti Spyware. If it doesn't ship with
>internet explorer version 7, get the free upgrade to that at microsoft.com
>and make sure you install Microsoft Update at the same place (or more
>directly, at update.microsoft.com).
>
>
>AA
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:47448d7e$1@linux...
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>> Hey all, Is this computer any good?
>>
>> Heard anything about it?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> DC
>>
>> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us& cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=brdd2fc&s=bsd
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>
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Re: Is this any good? [message #92960 is a reply to message #92959] |
Wed, 21 November 2007 22:49 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/down.png) |
Aaron Allen
![UNITED STATES UNITED STATES](/images/flags/us.png) Messages: 1988 Registered: May 2008
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Sounds like you got a demo, not a free version. I.S. is not free, only the
AV. Firewall should come from Zone Alarm. Anti Spyware from Microsoft. Make
sure you get AVG Free from http://free.grisoft.com and uninstall anything
else you have.
http://free.grisoft.com/doc/downloads-products/us/frt/0?prd= aff
The direct URL is
http://free.grisoft.com/filedir/inst/avg75free_503a1205.exe for the current
free version. Be sure to read the EULA but it sounds like a non profit
scenario, which I believe fits in with the EULA's I've seen in the past for
AVG free.
http://free.grisoft.com/filedir/doc/AVG_Anti-Virus_Free/User _manual/avg_aff_uma_en_75_9.pdf
is the manual.
Save, not open. You want to keep the installer and manual on the hard drive
somewhere in case of aw crap situations.
FYI, power point (and other microsoft office products) readers/viewers can
be had at
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=048 DC840-14E1-467D-8DCA-19D2A8FD7485&displaylang=en
If you do need to purchase MS Office, look into the different licensing to
see what fits your group.
This could allow you to use an existing license on another machine to build
the file and not have to purchase one to play it back on the machine you're
considering - if that fits your situation.
If you're not bent on using MS products, open office has some pretty neat
tricks. Impress is the program your after. Again, freeware but you should
confirm the EULA fits.
http://www.openoffice.org
AA
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:474516f1$1@linux...
>
> It's a charity thing for my teenager's youth room at church. They have
> NO money and want to do Power Point for lyrics and that sort of
> thing. A dual head vid card would be a nice thing, but anything is
> better than what they have, as long as it doesn't break. Being that it
> will
>
> be paid for by a donor who has little money themselves, cheap is really
> important. I just want to avoid it if it is a hand grenade...
>
> BTW, I could not for the life of me figger out how to disable AVG Internet
> Security! I liked the product, but I had to connect to a DSP box that
> uses static IP addressing and antivirus programs almost always won't
> let you do that. Being that I was offline, and only using the box, I
> needed to disable AVG and could not find out how to do so. Ideas?
>
> I am trying the demo of Eset Nod32 at the moment, and it is easy
> to disable, runs fast and seems to slow down other app less than the
> others I have tried. Do you like that as well as AVG?
>
> It's funny, I have spent so much time with the PC in the last 2 weeks that
> for the first time, Macs seem kind of odd and foreign to me...
>
> Never thought that would happen.
>
> thanks for all the help
>
> DC
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>I assume you're keeping the cost down purposely. Celeron will be slower,
> get
>>2 GB of RAM on it, and stay away from Vista anything... go WinXP.XP home
> for
>>well, home use and Pro if you need to join a domain. For basic house/small
>
>>biz you should be good for 2~3 years. Oh, get a DVD instead of CD because
> so
>>many things are going to start shipping their installers on DVD
>>now/future.
>
>>Besides, for the price difference these days it makes zero sense to limit
>
>>yourself over $30-$40 between the two options.
>>
>>No gaming, video or audio production for this puppy, but it'll do the
>>above
>
>>well enough. Don't buy into the demoware crap Dell loads on it with McAfee
>
>>or Norton. Instead use AVG for AntiVirus, Zone Alarm for a free firewall
> and
>>Microsoft Windows Defender for Anti Spyware. If it doesn't ship with
>>internet explorer version 7, get the free upgrade to that at microsoft.com
>
>>and make sure you install Microsoft Update at the same place (or more
>>directly, at update.microsoft.com).
>>
>>
>>AA
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:47448d7e$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hey all, Is this computer any good?
>>>
>>> Heard anything about it?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> DC
>>>
>>> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us& cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=brdd2fc&s=bsd
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Is this any good? [message #92961 is a reply to message #92960] |
Thu, 22 November 2007 00:49 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/down.png) |
dc[3]
Messages: 895 Registered: September 2005
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Thanks for all the info. Hey, I downloaded the manual and I still can't
find a work on how to disable the app?
Did I miss it?
thanks
DC
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Sounds like you got a demo, not a free version. I.S. is not free, only the
>AV. Firewall should come from Zone Alarm. Anti Spyware from Microsoft.
Make
>sure you get AVG Free from http://free.grisoft.com and uninstall anything
>else you have.
> http://free.grisoft.com/doc/downloads-products/us/frt/0?prd= aff
>
>The direct URL is
>http://free.grisoft.com/filedir/inst/avg75free_503a1205.exe for the current
>free version. Be sure to read the EULA but it sounds like a non profit
>scenario, which I believe fits in with the EULA's I've seen in the past
for
>AVG free.
>
> http://free.grisoft.com/filedir/doc/AVG_Anti-Virus_Free/User _manual/avg_aff_uma_en_75_9.pdf
>
>is the manual.
>
>Save, not open. You want to keep the installer and manual on the hard drive
>somewhere in case of aw crap situations.
>
>FYI, power point (and other microsoft office products) readers/viewers can
>be had at
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=048 DC840-14E1-467D-8DCA-19D2A8FD7485&displaylang=en
>
>If you do need to purchase MS Office, look into the different licensing
to
>see what fits your group.
>This could allow you to use an existing license on another machine to build
>the file and not have to purchase one to play it back on the machine you're
>considering - if that fits your situation.
>
>If you're not bent on using MS products, open office has some pretty neat
>tricks. Impress is the program your after. Again, freeware but you should
>confirm the EULA fits.
> http://www.openoffice.org
>
>AA
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:474516f1$1@linux...
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>> It's a charity thing for my teenager's youth room at church. They have
>> NO money and want to do Power Point for lyrics and that sort of
>> thing. A dual head vid card would be a nice thing, but anything is
>> better than what they have, as long as it doesn't break. Being that it
>> will
>>
>> be paid for by a donor who has little money themselves, cheap is really
>> important. I just want to avoid it if it is a hand grenade...
>>
>> BTW, I could not for the life of me figger out how to disable AVG Internet
>> Security! I liked the product, but I had to connect to a DSP box that
>> uses static IP addressing and antivirus programs almost always won't
>> let you do that. Being that I was offline, and only using the box, I
>> needed to disable AVG and could not find out how to do so. Ideas?
>>
>> I am trying the demo of Eset Nod32 at the moment, and it is easy
>> to disable, runs fast and seems to slow down other app less than the
>> others I have tried. Do you like that as well as AVG?
>>
>> It's funny, I have spent so much time with the PC in the last 2 weeks
that
>> for the first time, Macs seem kind of odd and foreign to me...
>>
>> Never thought that would happen.
>>
>> thanks for all the help
>>
>> DC
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>I assume you're keeping the cost down purposely. Celeron will be slower,
>> get
>>>2 GB of RAM on it, and stay away from Vista anything... go WinXP.XP home
>> for
>>>well, home use and Pro if you need to join a domain. For basic house/small
>>
>>>biz you should be good for 2~3 years. Oh, get a DVD instead of CD because
>> so
>>>many things are going to start shipping their installers on DVD
>>>now/future.
>>
>>>Besides, for the price difference these days it makes zero sense to limit
>>
>>>yourself over $30-$40 between the two options.
>>>
>>>No gaming, video or audio production for this puppy, but it'll do the
>>>above
>>
>>>well enough. Don't buy into the demoware crap Dell loads on it with McAfee
>>
>>>or Norton. Instead use AVG for AntiVirus, Zone Alarm for a free firewall
>> and
>>>Microsoft Windows Defender for Anti Spyware. If it doesn't ship with
>>>internet explorer version 7, get the free upgrade to that at microsoft.com
>>
>>>and make sure you install Microsoft Update at the same place (or more
>>>directly, at update.microsoft.com).
>>>
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:47448d7e$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Hey all, Is this computer any good?
>>>>
>>>> Heard anything about it?
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>> DC
>>>>
>>>> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us& cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=brdd2fc&s=bsd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: Is this any good? [message #92964 is a reply to message #92961] |
Thu, 22 November 2007 01:30 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/down.png) |
Erling
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There's menues in XP, with different things to do popping up, when
using a rightclick on the mouse. Have you tried it on the antivirus
icon down at the right corner? Haven't used AVG but have used a lot of
antivirus programs up against the years in XP and all had a rightclick
menu, as far as I remember.
Erling
On 22 Nov 2007 18:49:59 +1000, "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
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>Thanks for all the info. Hey, I downloaded the manual and I still can't
>find a work on how to disable the app?
>
>Did I miss it?
>
>thanks
>
>DC
>
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Sounds like you got a demo, not a free version. I.S. is not free, only the
>
>>AV. Firewall should come from Zone Alarm. Anti Spyware from Microsoft.
>Make
>>sure you get AVG Free from http://free.grisoft.com and uninstall anything
>
>>else you have.
>> http://free.grisoft.com/doc/downloads-products/us/frt/0?prd= aff
>>
>>The direct URL is
>>http://free.grisoft.com/filedir/inst/avg75free_503a1205.exe for the current
>
>>free version. Be sure to read the EULA but it sounds like a non profit
>>scenario, which I believe fits in with the EULA's I've seen in the past
>for
>>AVG free.
>>
>> http://free.grisoft.com/filedir/doc/AVG_Anti-Virus_Free/User _manual/avg_aff_uma_en_75_9.pdf
>>
>>is the manual.
>>
>>Save, not open. You want to keep the installer and manual on the hard drive
>
>>somewhere in case of aw crap situations.
>>
>>FYI, power point (and other microsoft office products) readers/viewers can
>
>>be had at
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=048 DC840-14E1-467D-8DCA-19D2A8FD7485&displaylang=en
>>
>>If you do need to purchase MS Office, look into the different licensing
>to
>>see what fits your group.
>>This could allow you to use an existing license on another machine to build
>
>>the file and not have to purchase one to play it back on the machine you're
>
>>considering - if that fits your situation.
>>
>>If you're not bent on using MS products, open office has some pretty neat
>
>>tricks. Impress is the program your after. Again, freeware but you should
>
>>confirm the EULA fits.
>> http://www.openoffice.org
>>
>>AA
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:474516f1$1@linux...
>>>
>>> It's a charity thing for my teenager's youth room at church. They have
>>> NO money and want to do Power Point for lyrics and that sort of
>>> thing. A dual head vid card would be a nice thing, but anything is
>>> better than what they have, as long as it doesn't break. Being that it
>
>>> will
>>>
>>> be paid for by a donor who has little money themselves, cheap is really
>>> important. I just want to avoid it if it is a hand grenade...
>>>
>>> BTW, I could not for the life of me figger out how to disable AVG Internet
>>> Security! I liked the product, but I had to connect to a DSP box that
>>> uses static IP addressing and antivirus programs almost always won't
>>> let you do that. Being that I was offline, and only using the box, I
>>> needed to disable AVG and could not find out how to do so. Ideas?
>>>
>>> I am trying the demo of Eset Nod32 at the moment, and it is easy
>>> to disable, runs fast and seems to slow down other app less than the
>>> others I have tried. Do you like that as well as AVG?
>>>
>>> It's funny, I have spent so much time with the PC in the last 2 weeks
>that
>>> for the first time, Macs seem kind of odd and foreign to me...
>>>
>>> Never thought that would happen.
>>>
>>> thanks for all the help
>>>
>>> DC
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>I assume you're keeping the cost down purposely. Celeron will be slower,
>>> get
>>>>2 GB of RAM on it, and stay away from Vista anything... go WinXP.XP home
>>> for
>>>>well, home use and Pro if you need to join a domain. For basic house/small
>>>
>>>>biz you should be good for 2~3 years. Oh, get a DVD instead of CD because
>>> so
>>>>many things are going to start shipping their installers on DVD
>>>>now/future.
>>>
>>>>Besides, for the price difference these days it makes zero sense to limit
>>>
>>>>yourself over $30-$40 between the two options.
>>>>
>>>>No gaming, video or audio production for this puppy, but it'll do the
>
>>>>above
>>>
>>>>well enough. Don't buy into the demoware crap Dell loads on it with McAfee
>>>
>>>>or Norton. Instead use AVG for AntiVirus, Zone Alarm for a free firewall
>>> and
>>>>Microsoft Windows Defender for Anti Spyware. If it doesn't ship with
>>>>internet explorer version 7, get the free upgrade to that at microsoft.com
>>>
>>>>and make sure you install Microsoft Update at the same place (or more
>>>>directly, at update.microsoft.com).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:47448d7e$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey all, Is this computer any good?
>>>>>
>>>>> Heard anything about it?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> DC
>>>>>
>>>>> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us& cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=brdd2fc&s=bsd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Is this any good? [message #92968 is a reply to message #92959] |
Thu, 22 November 2007 05:09 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/down.png) |
Bill L
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A very savy IT guy I know recommends Nod32. It uses a different approach
to anti virus detection. I believe it looks for behavior that would
indicate presence of a virus.
DC wrote:
> It's a charity thing for my teenager's youth room at church. They have
> NO money and want to do Power Point for lyrics and that sort of
> thing. A dual head vid card would be a nice thing, but anything is
> better than what they have, as long as it doesn't break. Being that it will
>
> be paid for by a donor who has little money themselves, cheap is really
> important. I just want to avoid it if it is a hand grenade...
>
> BTW, I could not for the life of me figger out how to disable AVG Internet
> Security! I liked the product, but I had to connect to a DSP box that
> uses static IP addressing and antivirus programs almost always won't
> let you do that. Being that I was offline, and only using the box, I
> needed to disable AVG and could not find out how to do so. Ideas?
>
> I am trying the demo of Eset Nod32 at the moment, and it is easy
> to disable, runs fast and seems to slow down other app less than the
> others I have tried. Do you like that as well as AVG?
>
> It's funny, I have spent so much time with the PC in the last 2 weeks that
> for the first time, Macs seem kind of odd and foreign to me...
>
> Never thought that would happen.
>
> thanks for all the help
>
> DC
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>> I assume you're keeping the cost down purposely. Celeron will be slower,
> get
>> 2 GB of RAM on it, and stay away from Vista anything... go WinXP.XP home
> for
>> well, home use and Pro if you need to join a domain. For basic house/small
>
>> biz you should be good for 2~3 years. Oh, get a DVD instead of CD because
> so
>> many things are going to start shipping their installers on DVD now/future.
>
>> Besides, for the price difference these days it makes zero sense to limit
>
>> yourself over $30-$40 between the two options.
>>
>> No gaming, video or audio production for this puppy, but it'll do the above
>
>> well enough. Don't buy into the demoware crap Dell loads on it with McAfee
>
>> or Norton. Instead use AVG for AntiVirus, Zone Alarm for a free firewall
> and
>> Microsoft Windows Defender for Anti Spyware. If it doesn't ship with
>> internet explorer version 7, get the free upgrade to that at microsoft.com
>
>> and make sure you install Microsoft Update at the same place (or more
>> directly, at update.microsoft.com).
>>
>>
>> AA
>>
>> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:47448d7e$1@linux...
>>> Hey all, Is this computer any good?
>>>
>>> Heard anything about it?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> DC
>>>
>>> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us& cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=brdd2fc&s=bsd
>>
>>
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Re: Is this any good? [message #92971 is a reply to message #92964] |
Thu, 22 November 2007 11:11 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/down.png) |
dc[3]
Messages: 895 Registered: September 2005
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First place I looked. No disable. Spent quite a while, even read the
manual, and no disable I could find..
Turkeys! ooops, wrong day...
Nod32 seems to be working well.
DC
erlilo <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>There's menues in XP, with different things to do popping up, when
>using a rightclick on the mouse. Have you tried it on the antivirus
>icon down at the right corner? Haven't used AVG but have used a lot of
>antivirus programs up against the years in XP and all had a rightclick
>menu, as far as I remember.
>
>Erling
>
>On 22 Nov 2007 18:49:59 +1000, "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Thanks for all the info. Hey, I downloaded the manual and I still can't
>>find a work on how to disable the app?
>>
>>Did I miss it?
>>
>>thanks
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>Sounds like you got a demo, not a free version. I.S. is not free, only
the
>>
>>>AV. Firewall should come from Zone Alarm. Anti Spyware from Microsoft.
>>Make
>>>sure you get AVG Free from http://free.grisoft.com and uninstall anything
>>
>>>else you have.
>>> http://free.grisoft.com/doc/downloads-products/us/frt/0?prd= aff
>>>
>>>The direct URL is
>>>http://free.grisoft.com/filedir/inst/avg75free_503a1205.exe for the current
>>
>>>free version. Be sure to read the EULA but it sounds like a non profit
>>>scenario, which I believe fits in with the EULA's I've seen in the past
>>for
>>>AVG free.
>>>
>>> http://free.grisoft.com/filedir/doc/AVG_Anti-Virus_Free/User _manual/avg_aff_uma_en_75_9.pdf
>>>
>>>is the manual.
>>>
>>>Save, not open. You want to keep the installer and manual on the hard
drive
>>
>>>somewhere in case of aw crap situations.
>>>
>>>FYI, power point (and other microsoft office products) readers/viewers
can
>>
>>>be had at
>>>
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=048 DC840-14E1-467D-8DCA-19D2A8FD7485&displaylang=en
>>>
>>>If you do need to purchase MS Office, look into the different licensing
>>to
>>>see what fits your group.
>>>This could allow you to use an existing license on another machine to
build
>>
>>>the file and not have to purchase one to play it back on the machine you're
>>
>>>considering - if that fits your situation.
>>>
>>>If you're not bent on using MS products, open office has some pretty neat
>>
>>>tricks. Impress is the program your after. Again, freeware but you should
>>
>>>confirm the EULA fits.
>>> http://www.openoffice.org
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:474516f1$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> It's a charity thing for my teenager's youth room at church. They have
>>>> NO money and want to do Power Point for lyrics and that sort of
>>>> thing. A dual head vid card would be a nice thing, but anything is
>>>> better than what they have, as long as it doesn't break. Being that
it
>>
>>>> will
>>>>
>>>> be paid for by a donor who has little money themselves, cheap is really
>>>> important. I just want to avoid it if it is a hand grenade...
>>>>
>>>> BTW, I could not for the life of me figger out how to disable AVG Internet
>>>> Security! I liked the product, but I had to connect to a DSP box that
>>>> uses static IP addressing and antivirus programs almost always won't
>>>> let you do that. Being that I was offline, and only using the box,
I
>>>> needed to disable AVG and could not find out how to do so. Ideas?
>>>>
>>>> I am trying the demo of Eset Nod32 at the moment, and it is easy
>>>> to disable, runs fast and seems to slow down other app less than the
>>>> others I have tried. Do you like that as well as AVG?
>>>>
>>>> It's funny, I have spent so much time with the PC in the last 2 weeks
>>that
>>>> for the first time, Macs seem kind of odd and foreign to me...
>>>>
>>>> Never thought that would happen.
>>>>
>>>> thanks for all the help
>>>>
>>>> DC
>>>>
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>I assume you're keeping the cost down purposely. Celeron will be slower,
>>>> get
>>>>>2 GB of RAM on it, and stay away from Vista anything... go WinXP.XP
home
>>>> for
>>>>>well, home use and Pro if you need to join a domain. For basic house/small
>>>>
>>>>>biz you should be good for 2~3 years. Oh, get a DVD instead of CD because
>>>> so
>>>>>many things are going to start shipping their installers on DVD
>>>>>now/future.
>>>>
>>>>>Besides, for the price difference these days it makes zero sense to
limit
>>>>
>>>>>yourself over $30-$40 between the two options.
>>>>>
>>>>>No gaming, video or audio production for this puppy, but it'll do the
>>
>>>>>above
>>>>
>>>>>well enough. Don't buy into the demoware crap Dell loads on it with
McAfee
>>>>
>>>>>or Norton. Instead use AVG for AntiVirus, Zone Alarm for a free firewall
>>>> and
>>>>>Microsoft Windows Defender for Anti Spyware. If it doesn't ship with
>>>>>internet explorer version 7, get the free upgrade to that at microsoft.com
>>>>
>>>>>and make sure you install Microsoft Update at the same place (or more
>>>>>directly, at update.microsoft.com).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>AA
>>>>>
>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:47448d7e$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey all, Is this computer any good?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heard anything about it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us& cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=brdd2fc&s=bsd
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Is this any good? [message #92976 is a reply to message #92971] |
Thu, 22 November 2007 17:34 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/down.png) |
Kim
Messages: 1246 Registered: October 2005
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If all else fails you can always simply go to task manager and "End Process"...
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>First place I looked. No disable. Spent quite a while, even read the
>manual, and no disable I could find..
>
>Turkeys! ooops, wrong day...
>
>Nod32 seems to be working well.
>
>DC
>
>
>erlilo <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>>There's menues in XP, with different things to do popping up, when
>>using a rightclick on the mouse. Have you tried it on the antivirus
>>icon down at the right corner? Haven't used AVG but have used a lot of
>>antivirus programs up against the years in XP and all had a rightclick
>>menu, as far as I remember.
>>
>>Erling
>>
>>On 22 Nov 2007 18:49:59 +1000, "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Thanks for all the info. Hey, I downloaded the manual and I still can't
>>>find a work on how to disable the app?
>>>
>>>Did I miss it?
>>>
>>>thanks
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>Sounds like you got a demo, not a free version. I.S. is not free, only
>the
>>>
>>>>AV. Firewall should come from Zone Alarm. Anti Spyware from Microsoft.
>
>>>Make
>>>>sure you get AVG Free from http://free.grisoft.com and uninstall anything
>>>
>>>>else you have.
>>>> http://free.grisoft.com/doc/downloads-products/us/frt/0?prd= aff
>>>>
>>>>The direct URL is
>>>>http://free.grisoft.com/filedir/inst/avg75free_503a1205.exe for the current
>>>
>>>>free version. Be sure to read the EULA but it sounds like a non profit
>
>>>>scenario, which I believe fits in with the EULA's I've seen in the past
>>>for
>>>>AVG free.
>>>>
>>>> http://free.grisoft.com/filedir/doc/AVG_Anti-Virus_Free/User _manual/avg_aff_uma_en_75_9.pdf
>>>>
>>>>is the manual.
>>>>
>>>>Save, not open. You want to keep the installer and manual on the hard
>drive
>>>
>>>>somewhere in case of aw crap situations.
>>>>
>>>>FYI, power point (and other microsoft office products) readers/viewers
>can
>>>
>>>>be had at
>>>>
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=048 DC840-14E1-467D-8DCA-19D2A8FD7485&displaylang=en
>>>>
>>>>If you do need to purchase MS Office, look into the different licensing
>>>to
>>>>see what fits your group.
>>>>This could allow you to use an existing license on another machine to
>build
>>>
>>>>the file and not have to purchase one to play it back on the machine
you're
>>>
>>>>considering - if that fits your situation.
>>>>
>>>>If you're not bent on using MS products, open office has some pretty
neat
>>>
>>>>tricks. Impress is the program your after. Again, freeware but you should
>>>
>>>>confirm the EULA fits.
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org
>>>>
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:474516f1$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a charity thing for my teenager's youth room at church. They
have
>>>>> NO money and want to do Power Point for lyrics and that sort of
>>>>> thing. A dual head vid card would be a nice thing, but anything is
>>>>> better than what they have, as long as it doesn't break. Being that
>it
>>>
>>>>> will
>>>>>
>>>>> be paid for by a donor who has little money themselves, cheap is really
>>>>> important. I just want to avoid it if it is a hand grenade...
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, I could not for the life of me figger out how to disable AVG Internet
>>>>> Security! I liked the product, but I had to connect to a DSP box that
>>>>> uses static IP addressing and antivirus programs almost always won't
>>>>> let you do that. Being that I was offline, and only using the box,
>I
>>>>> needed to disable AVG and could not find out how to do so. Ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying the demo of Eset Nod32 at the moment, and it is easy
>>>>> to disable, runs fast and seems to slow down other app less than the
>>>>> others I have tried. Do you like that as well as AVG?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's funny, I have spent so much time with the PC in the last 2 weeks
>>>that
>>>>> for the first time, Macs seem kind of odd and foreign to me...
>>>>>
>>>>> Never thought that would happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks for all the help
>>>>>
>>>>> DC
>>>>>
>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>>I assume you're keeping the cost down purposely. Celeron will be slower,
>>>>> get
>>>>>>2 GB of RAM on it, and stay away from Vista anything... go WinXP.XP
>home
>>>>> for
>>>>>>well, home use and Pro if you need to join a domain. For basic house/small
>>>>>
>>>>>>biz you should be good for 2~3 years. Oh, get a DVD instead of CD because
>>>>> so
>>>>>>many things are going to start shipping their installers on DVD
>>>>>>now/future.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Besides, for the price difference these days it makes zero sense to
>limit
>>>>>
>>>>>>yourself over $30-$40 between the two options.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No gaming, video or audio production for this puppy, but it'll do the
>>>
>>>>>>above
>>>>>
>>>>>>well enough. Don't buy into the demoware crap Dell loads on it with
>McAfee
>>>>>
>>>>>>or Norton. Instead use AVG for AntiVirus, Zone Alarm for a free firewall
>>>>> and
>>>>>>Microsoft Windows Defender for Anti Spyware. If it doesn't ship with
>>>>>>internet explorer version 7, get the free upgrade to that at microsoft.com
>>>>>
>>>>>>and make sure you install Microsoft Update at the same place (or more
>>>>>>directly, at update.microsoft.com).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>AA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:47448d7e$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey all, Is this computer any good?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heard anything about it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us& cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=brdd2fc&s=bsd
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: Is this any good? [message #92987 is a reply to message #92961] |
Fri, 23 November 2007 20:39 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/down.png) |
Aaron Allen
![UNITED STATES UNITED STATES](/images/flags/us.png) Messages: 1988 Registered: May 2008
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Hit control+alt+delete. That's windows task manager. Go to the processes
tab. Find:
avgamsvr.exe
avgcc.exe
avgemc.eve
avgupsvc.exe
End process those, and avg should be off. Restart AVG from the all programs
menu. That being said, I've never had it interfere with operation (my
serious recording pc's never touch the net except for updates if that is
necessary) on my net boxes, so I've had no need to kill it. However, if
you're happy with NOD, stay the course.
AA
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:474534a7$1@linux...
>
> Thanks for all the info. Hey, I downloaded the manual and I still can't
> find a work on how to disable the app?
>
> Did I miss it?
>
> thanks
>
> DC
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Sounds like you got a demo, not a free version. I.S. is not free, only the
>
>>AV. Firewall should come from Zone Alarm. Anti Spyware from Microsoft.
> Make
>>sure you get AVG Free from http://free.grisoft.com and uninstall anything
>
>>else you have.
>> http://free.grisoft.com/doc/downloads-products/us/frt/0?prd= aff
>>
>>The direct URL is
>>http://free.grisoft.com/filedir/inst/avg75free_503a1205.exe for the
>>current
>
>>free version. Be sure to read the EULA but it sounds like a non profit
>>scenario, which I believe fits in with the EULA's I've seen in the past
> for
>>AVG free.
>>
>> http://free.grisoft.com/filedir/doc/AVG_Anti-Virus_Free/User _manual/avg_aff_uma_en_75_9.pdf
>>
>>is the manual.
>>
>>Save, not open. You want to keep the installer and manual on the hard
>>drive
>
>>somewhere in case of aw crap situations.
>>
>>FYI, power point (and other microsoft office products) readers/viewers can
>
>>be had at
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=048 DC840-14E1-467D-8DCA-19D2A8FD7485&displaylang=en
>>
>>If you do need to purchase MS Office, look into the different licensing
> to
>>see what fits your group.
>>This could allow you to use an existing license on another machine to
>>build
>
>>the file and not have to purchase one to play it back on the machine
>>you're
>
>>considering - if that fits your situation.
>>
>>If you're not bent on using MS products, open office has some pretty neat
>
>>tricks. Impress is the program your after. Again, freeware but you should
>
>>confirm the EULA fits.
>> http://www.openoffice.org
>>
>>AA
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:474516f1$1@linux...
>>>
>>> It's a charity thing for my teenager's youth room at church. They have
>>> NO money and want to do Power Point for lyrics and that sort of
>>> thing. A dual head vid card would be a nice thing, but anything is
>>> better than what they have, as long as it doesn't break. Being that it
>
>>> will
>>>
>>> be paid for by a donor who has little money themselves, cheap is really
>>> important. I just want to avoid it if it is a hand grenade...
>>>
>>> BTW, I could not for the life of me figger out how to disable AVG
>>> Internet
>>> Security! I liked the product, but I had to connect to a DSP box that
>>> uses static IP addressing and antivirus programs almost always won't
>>> let you do that. Being that I was offline, and only using the box, I
>>> needed to disable AVG and could not find out how to do so. Ideas?
>>>
>>> I am trying the demo of Eset Nod32 at the moment, and it is easy
>>> to disable, runs fast and seems to slow down other app less than the
>>> others I have tried. Do you like that as well as AVG?
>>>
>>> It's funny, I have spent so much time with the PC in the last 2 weeks
> that
>>> for the first time, Macs seem kind of odd and foreign to me...
>>>
>>> Never thought that would happen.
>>>
>>> thanks for all the help
>>>
>>> DC
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>I assume you're keeping the cost down purposely. Celeron will be slower,
>>> get
>>>>2 GB of RAM on it, and stay away from Vista anything... go WinXP.XP home
>>> for
>>>>well, home use and Pro if you need to join a domain. For basic
>>>>house/small
>>>
>>>>biz you should be good for 2~3 years. Oh, get a DVD instead of CD
>>>>because
>>> so
>>>>many things are going to start shipping their installers on DVD
>>>>now/future.
>>>
>>>>Besides, for the price difference these days it makes zero sense to
>>>>limit
>>>
>>>>yourself over $30-$40 between the two options.
>>>>
>>>>No gaming, video or audio production for this puppy, but it'll do the
>
>>>>above
>>>
>>>>well enough. Don't buy into the demoware crap Dell loads on it with
>>>>McAfee
>>>
>>>>or Norton. Instead use AVG for AntiVirus, Zone Alarm for a free firewall
>>> and
>>>>Microsoft Windows Defender for Anti Spyware. If it doesn't ship with
>>>>internet explorer version 7, get the free upgrade to that at
>>>>microsoft.com
>>>
>>>>and make sure you install Microsoft Update at the same place (or more
>>>>directly, at update.microsoft.com).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:47448d7e$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey all, Is this computer any good?
>>>>>
>>>>> Heard anything about it?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> DC
>>>>>
>>>>> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us& cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=brdd2fc&s=bsd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Is this any good? [message #93006 is a reply to message #92987] |
Sat, 24 November 2007 12:05 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/down.png) |
dc[3]
Messages: 895 Registered: September 2005
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Senior Member |
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Thanks. I spoke with the DSP manufacturer and indeed, AVG does
interfere with their product. Once I uninstalled it, all was fine.
We wish that manufacturer would go to DHCP like the rest of the
universe, but noooo...
So far NOD is doing well.
DC
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Hit control+alt+delete. That's windows task manager. Go to the processes
>tab. Find:
>avgamsvr.exe
>avgcc.exe
>avgemc.eve
>avgupsvc.exe
>
>End process those, and avg should be off. Restart AVG from the all programs
>menu. That being said, I've never had it interfere with operation (my
>serious recording pc's never touch the net except for updates if that is
>necessary) on my net boxes, so I've had no need to kill it. However, if
>you're happy with NOD, stay the course.
>
>AA
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:474534a7$1@linux...
>>
>> Thanks for all the info. Hey, I downloaded the manual and I still can't
>> find a work on how to disable the app?
>>
>> Did I miss it?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>Sounds like you got a demo, not a free version. I.S. is not free, only
the
>>
>>>AV. Firewall should come from Zone Alarm. Anti Spyware from Microsoft.
>> Make
>>>sure you get AVG Free from http://free.grisoft.com and uninstall anything
>>
>>>else you have.
>>> http://free.grisoft.com/doc/downloads-products/us/frt/0?prd= aff
>>>
>>>The direct URL is
>>>http://free.grisoft.com/filedir/inst/avg75free_503a1205.exe for the
>>>current
>>
>>>free version. Be sure to read the EULA but it sounds like a non profit
>>>scenario, which I believe fits in with the EULA's I've seen in the past
>> for
>>>AVG free.
>>>
>>> http://free.grisoft.com/filedir/doc/AVG_Anti-Virus_Free/User _manual/avg_aff_uma_en_75_9.pdf
>>>
>>>is the manual.
>>>
>>>Save, not open. You want to keep the installer and manual on the hard
>>>drive
>>
>>>somewhere in case of aw crap situations.
>>>
>>>FYI, power point (and other microsoft office products) readers/viewers
can
>>
>>>be had at
>>>
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=048 DC840-14E1-467D-8DCA-19D2A8FD7485&displaylang=en
>>>
>>>If you do need to purchase MS Office, look into the different licensing
>> to
>>>see what fits your group.
>>>This could allow you to use an existing license on another machine to
>>>build
>>
>>>the file and not have to purchase one to play it back on the machine
>>>you're
>>
>>>considering - if that fits your situation.
>>>
>>>If you're not bent on using MS products, open office has some pretty neat
>>
>>>tricks. Impress is the program your after. Again, freeware but you should
>>
>>>confirm the EULA fits.
>>> http://www.openoffice.org
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:474516f1$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> It's a charity thing for my teenager's youth room at church. They have
>>>> NO money and want to do Power Point for lyrics and that sort of
>>>> thing. A dual head vid card would be a nice thing, but anything is
>>>> better than what they have, as long as it doesn't break. Being that
it
>>
>>>> will
>>>>
>>>> be paid for by a donor who has little money themselves, cheap is really
>>>> important. I just want to avoid it if it is a hand grenade...
>>>>
>>>> BTW, I could not for the life of me figger out how to disable AVG
>>>> Internet
>>>> Security! I liked the product, but I had to connect to a DSP box that
>>>> uses static IP addressing and antivirus programs almost always won't
>>>> let you do that. Being that I was offline, and only using the box,
I
>>>> needed to disable AVG and could not find out how to do so. Ideas?
>>>>
>>>> I am trying the demo of Eset Nod32 at the moment, and it is easy
>>>> to disable, runs fast and seems to slow down other app less than the
>>>> others I have tried. Do you like that as well as AVG?
>>>>
>>>> It's funny, I have spent so much time with the PC in the last 2 weeks
>> that
>>>> for the first time, Macs seem kind of odd and foreign to me...
>>>>
>>>> Never thought that would happen.
>>>>
>>>> thanks for all the help
>>>>
>>>> DC
>>>>
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>I assume you're keeping the cost down purposely. Celeron will be slower,
>>>> get
>>>>>2 GB of RAM on it, and stay away from Vista anything... go WinXP.XP
home
>>>> for
>>>>>well, home use and Pro if you need to join a domain. For basic
>>>>>house/small
>>>>
>>>>>biz you should be good for 2~3 years. Oh, get a DVD instead of CD
>>>>>because
>>>> so
>>>>>many things are going to start shipping their installers on DVD
>>>>>now/future.
>>>>
>>>>>Besides, for the price difference these days it makes zero sense to
>>>>>limit
>>>>
>>>>>yourself over $30-$40 between the two options.
>>>>>
>>>>>No gaming, video or audio production for this puppy, but it'll do the
>>
>>>>>above
>>>>
>>>>>well enough. Don't buy into the demoware crap Dell loads on it with
>>>>>McAfee
>>>>
>>>>>or Norton. Instead use AVG for AntiVirus, Zone Alarm for a free firewall
>>>> and
>>>>>Microsoft Windows Defender for Anti Spyware. If it doesn't ship with
>>>>>internet explorer version 7, get the free upgrade to that at
>>>>>microsoft.com
>>>>
>>>>>and make sure you install Microsoft Update at the same place (or more
>>>>>directly, at update.microsoft.com).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>AA
>>>>>
>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:47448d7e$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey all, Is this computer any good?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heard anything about it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us& cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=brdd2fc&s=bsd
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Re: Is this any good? [message #93030 is a reply to message #93006] |
Sun, 25 November 2007 01:36 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/PARIS_Forum_Template/images/up.png) |
Erling
![NORWAY NORWAY](/images/flags/no.png) Messages: 156 Registered: October 2008
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Senior Member |
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Don, maybe it's time to have a look at this free product for
homeusers:
http://www.download.com/Avast-Home-Edition/3000-2239_4-10747 101.html?tag=lst-1
It was a musician friend of mine that said it was the only
antivirusprogram that didn't interfere with any of his programs some
years ago. He is also a good programmer and knows really well what
he's talking about. Some years ago he was involved in great problems
with Symantec Antivirus products and his Nuendo software, so he
tested different antivirus products and ended up with Avast. Me too
and most of my family have now used it for years with it's problemfree
behavings with our programs.
Erling
On 25 Nov 2007 06:05:21 +1000, "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks. I spoke with the DSP manufacturer and indeed, AVG does
>interfere with their product. Once I uninstalled it, all was fine.
>We wish that manufacturer would go to DHCP like the rest of the
>universe, but noooo...
>
>So far NOD is doing well.
>
>DC
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Hit control+alt+delete. That's windows task manager. Go to the processes
>
>>tab. Find:
>>avgamsvr.exe
>>avgcc.exe
>>avgemc.eve
>>avgupsvc.exe
>>
>>End process those, and avg should be off. Restart AVG from the all programs
>
>>menu. That being said, I've never had it interfere with operation (my
>>serious recording pc's never touch the net except for updates if that is
>
>>necessary) on my net boxes, so I've had no need to kill it. However, if
>
>>you're happy with NOD, stay the course.
>>
>>AA
>>
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