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Re: Typical Paris sound? [message #106905 is a reply to message #106852] |
Wed, 01 February 2012 05:47 |
Ted Gerber
Messages: 705 Registered: January 2009
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First off - I'm not a pro mixer.
True - I spend way too much time doing this for the amount of money I get paid for it, but it is not my principle occupation. Therefore my abilities or lack thereof work against me producing top level mixes on any platform.
Having said that, I have tried mixing in Logic, Harrison Mixbus, Studio One, Reaper and CuBase and even if I reach acceptable results quickly, they never seem to have the 3 dimensionality that is quickly apparent to me with Paris.
Maybe if I learned the approach suited to those platforms more, things would change. But I have the suspicion that if I did mix in those programs, I would be craving major external comps, verbs, eqs and summing, which I can't afford.
I have and use an API2500, ADL 1500, Smart C1, Overstayer FET, UBK Clariphonic and TC3000 and Lex PCM 91 with Paris now, and you would think with these external boxes I could get great results using the other programs, but I just have difficulty doing so. Things just seem to collapse more quickly...
T
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Re: Typical Paris sound? [message #110197 is a reply to message #106920] |
Thu, 14 September 2023 00:16 |
MaybeImAmazed
Messages: 14 Registered: February 2018 Location: USA
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Ted, did you ever get the Alpha Link running over ADAT without all the pops and clicks? I got a good deal on a MADI-AX running v2.5 firmware, but can't get it to not pop and click and I've also tried all sorts of different WC configurations. It stayed quiet for a few minutes tonight but then started popping again.
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Re: Typical Paris sound? [message #110198 is a reply to message #110197] |
Thu, 14 September 2023 23:09 |
MaybeImAmazed
Messages: 14 Registered: February 2018 Location: USA
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After hours of trying seemingly endless combinations and just about giving up, I found a way to make these two work together. I might be the last person to ever care about the Alpha-Link/Paris combo, but I'll share my solution anyway.
Firstly, on your Alpha set all 8 settings in Option Switch 1 to off. Same with Option Switch 2 (you might want to alter settings 1&2 here if it fits your ADAT channels choice - see the manual). These switch changes aren't committed until you press the Sample Rate and Clock buttons at the same time, by the way (didn't see that in the manual).
On the Alpha, set ADAT Input to Analog Output, and Analog Input to ADAT Output. That part is pretty obvious, but it can take some fiddling to get the settings to stick (if I remember right I had to have the MEC on for the ADAT Input setting to stick - something like that).
Connect a 48kHz master clock into the wordclock in on the Alpha and connect the Alpha's wordclock out to to the wordclock in on the Paris MEC. Set the Alpha's Clock to Ext and set Paris Sync Source to Wordclock and they'll sync at 48Khz (but not cleanly yet).
Now set the Alpha's Clock to ADAT. At this point you will probably have to set Paris Sync Source to Internal and then back to Wordclock. You can turn off the external master clock now if you want because it has sadly done its duty (Big Ben or whatever is a doorstop at this point of the configuration). You'll notice that even though the Alpha is synced to ADAT, no Sample Rate is lit up for some odd reason (the Paris will show 48kHz though). It's a strange way to mate these two, but it should be working pretty cleanly for you now.
I still get the very occasional pop, but nothing like it was. Also seems to only happen when it's quiet (I haven't listened closely enough yet to determine if that's completely true). The pops when they do happen aren't as loud either. I wish it was perfect, but I can play a passage without it popping.
I tried just about every other combination starting with direct wordclock connections to the Alpha and MEC from Big Ben, and then daisy chaining with tees and different termination settings, etc etc. This combination is the only way I've gotten it to work without constant popping.
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