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DJ needs this.....I think 200 feet will do you fine [message #90877] Mon, 01 October 2007 12:02 Go to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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http://www.pearcable.com/sub_products_anjou_sc.htm

the ANJOU Speaker Cable strives to offer the highest quality speaker to amplifier
connection possible.

12 foot pair - $7250
Re: DJ needs this.....I think 200 feet will do you fine [message #90878 is a reply to message #90877] Mon, 01 October 2007 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:47014456$1@linux...
>
> http://www.pearcable.com/sub_products_anjou_sc.htm
>
> the ANJOU Speaker Cable strives to offer the highest quality speaker to
> amplifier
> connection possible.
>
> 12 foot pair - $7250
>
>

12' would be just the right length to be able to fashion the noose that my
wife would tie around my neck with these, with enough left over to throw
over a rafter if I was standing on the chair that she would shortly
thereafter kick out from under me.

;o)
Re: DJ needs this.....I think 200 feet will do you fine [message #90879 is a reply to message #90877] Mon, 01 October 2007 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dc[3] is currently offline  dc[3]
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Oh, that's funny...

You can buy a speaker cable, or feed 1/2 of the starving
people in a small country for a month...

Or hell, forget the food, and buy a car!

A new custom guitar, or two...

scumbags....


I love the Bay Area Audiophiles guy too...

How about Bay Area Really Fugged-up Yahoos?

BARFY...


DC


"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>http://www.pearcable.com/sub_products_anjou_sc.htm
>
>the ANJOU Speaker Cable strives to offer the highest quality speaker to
amplifier
>connection possible.
>
>12 foot pair - $7250
>
>
>
Re: DJ needs this.....I think 200 feet will do you fine [message #90881 is a reply to message #90878] Mon, 01 October 2007 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
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"low capacitance at 114pf/FT"... well, Canare 4S11 cable is only
45pf/FT, and I can probably get a Kilometer for $7200!!

HiFi snobs... they deserve those prices...

David.

DJ wrote:
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:47014456$1@linux...
>
>>http://www.pearcable.com/sub_products_anjou_sc.htm
>>
>>the ANJOU Speaker Cable strives to offer the highest quality speaker to
>>amplifier
>>connection possible.
>>
>>12 foot pair - $7250
>>
>>
>
>
> 12' would be just the right length to be able to fashion the noose that my
> wife would tie around my neck with these, with enough left over to throw
> over a rafter if I was standing on the chair that she would shortly
> thereafter kick out from under me.
>
> ;o)
>
>
Re: DJ needs this.....I think 200 feet will do you fine [message #90889 is a reply to message #90877] Tue, 02 October 2007 05:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://digg.com/gadgets/1_Million_If_Audiophiles_Can_Prove_7 250_Speaker_Cable_Are_Better
Re: DJ needs this.....I think 200 feet will do you fine [message #90890 is a reply to message #90889] Tue, 02 October 2007 05:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gantt Kushner is currently offline  Gantt Kushner   
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Yeah, but how do you prove it? There was a thread (one of many) on R.A.P.
discussing this and the point was made that while you can certainly make
cable that sounds DIFFERENT how can you know that it's actually more accurate?


An age old debate... with no end in sight!

"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
> http://digg.com/gadgets/1_Million_If_Audiophiles_Can_Prove_7 250_Speaker_Cable_Are_Better


Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
Re: DJ needs this.....I think 200 feet will do you fine [message #90894 is a reply to message #90890] Tue, 02 October 2007 08:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DC is currently offline  DC
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There's 2 kinds of proof that matter: There's the kind that is shown
in double-blind tests where someone can ID which cable is which
when someone else is changing them w/o him seeing, and there is
the proof that comes from someone who knows what the recording
should sound like, and that only works when there is an objective
acoustic reference point. An orchestra, or acoustic jazz for instance.

DC



"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Yeah, but how do you prove it? There was a thread (one of many) on R.A.P.
>discussing this and the point was made that while you can certainly make
>cable that sounds DIFFERENT how can you know that it's actually more accurate?
>
>
>An age old debate... with no end in sight!
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>> http://digg.com/gadgets/1_Million_If_Audiophiles_Can_Prove_7 250_Speaker_Cable_Are_Better
>
Re: DJ needs this.....I think 200 feet will do you fine [message #90895 is a reply to message #90894] Tue, 02 October 2007 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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Or third, using test equipment. For example, running test signals down
the cable, recording them with a highly accurate recorder, and comparing
the playback using test/analysis gear, and with phase cancellation, to
the original signal recorded on the same highly accurate recorder.

Complicated by the speaker level signals, but it seems doable.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


DC wrote:
> There's 2 kinds of proof that matter: There's the kind that is shown
> in double-blind tests where someone can ID which cable is which
> when someone else is changing them w/o him seeing, and there is
> the proof that comes from someone who knows what the recording
> should sound like, and that only works when there is an objective
> acoustic reference point. An orchestra, or acoustic jazz for instance.
>
> DC
>
>
>
> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Yeah, but how do you prove it? There was a thread (one of many) on R.A.P.
>> discussing this and the point was made that while you can certainly make
>> cable that sounds DIFFERENT how can you know that it's actually more accurate?
>>
>>
>> An age old debate... with no end in sight!
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>> http://digg.com/gadgets/1_Million_If_Audiophiles_Can_Prove_7 250_Speaker_Cable_Are_Better
>
Re: DJ needs this.....I think 200 feet will do you fine [message #90897 is a reply to message #90895] Tue, 02 October 2007 08:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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Could work, but the test gear would likely introduce far more variables than
AA (audiophiles anonymous)
could accept without exploding into an obsessive compulsive fit.

I love the San Fran guy's comment about the cables being more danceable.....
rofl.
(hmm.... since when does an obsessed audiophile dance? The vibrations would
jar the turntable, which is of course vibration isolated from the building,
and even the earth and air itself, but why take a chance... ? ;-)).

Then again, I would probably be dancing around too - in disbelief that I
actually spend $7250 on a cable,
and hoping so badly that it made a difference that I convinced myself it did
just to avoid the sinking
feeling of wasting more money than my car was worth. ;-)

For sure better cables can really be better in some ways, but whether one
can hear a 145x improvement over a $50 cable...

Dedric

"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:47026242$1@linux...
>
> Or third, using test equipment. For example, running test signals down the
> cable, recording them with a highly accurate recorder, and comparing the
> playback using test/analysis gear, and with phase cancellation, to the
> original signal recorded on the same highly accurate recorder.
>
> Complicated by the speaker level signals, but it seems doable.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> DC wrote:
>> There's 2 kinds of proof that matter: There's the kind that is shown
>> in double-blind tests where someone can ID which cable is which when
>> someone else is changing them w/o him seeing, and there is
>> the proof that comes from someone who knows what the recording
>> should sound like, and that only works when there is an objective
>> acoustic reference point. An orchestra, or acoustic jazz for instance.
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>>
>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Yeah, but how do you prove it? There was a thread (one of many) on
>>> R.A.P.
>>> discussing this and the point was made that while you can certainly make
>>> cable that sounds DIFFERENT how can you know that it's actually more
>>> accurate?
>>>
>>>
>>> An age old debate... with no end in sight!
>>>
>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>> http://digg.com/gadgets/1_Million_If_Audiophiles_Can_Prove_7 250_Speaker_Cable_Are_Better
>>
Re: DJ needs this.....I think 200 feet will do you fine [message #90899 is a reply to message #90897] Tue, 02 October 2007 09:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dc[3] is currently offline  dc[3]
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"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:

>For sure better cables can really be better in some ways, but whether one

>can hear a 145x improvement over a $50 cable...


These things are for rich guys who fill their lives buying expensive
baubles.

They should find a nice charity instead.

DC
Re: DJ needs this.....I think 200 feet will do you fine [message #90902 is a reply to message #90895] Tue, 02 October 2007 10:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gantt Kushner is currently offline  Gantt Kushner   
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But then you need "perfect" speakers in an acoustically transparent environment,
neither of which any two testers could probably agree upon since neither
is really possible.

gantt

Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>Or third, using test equipment. For example, running test signals down
>the cable, recording them with a highly accurate recorder, and comparing

>the playback using test/analysis gear, and with phase cancellation, to
>the original signal recorded on the same highly accurate recorder.
>
>Complicated by the speaker level signals, but it seems doable.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>DC wrote:
>> There's 2 kinds of proof that matter: There's the kind that is shown
>> in double-blind tests where someone can ID which cable is which
>> when someone else is changing them w/o him seeing, and there is
>> the proof that comes from someone who knows what the recording
>> should sound like, and that only works when there is an objective
>> acoustic reference point. An orchestra, or acoustic jazz for instance.
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>>
>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Yeah, but how do you prove it? There was a thread (one of many) on R.A.P.
>>> discussing this and the point was made that while you can certainly make
>>> cable that sounds DIFFERENT how can you know that it's actually more
accurate?
>>>
>>>
>>> An age old debate... with no end in sight!
>>>
>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>> http://digg.com/gadgets/1_Million_If_Audiophiles_Can_Prove_7 250_Speaker_Cable_Are_Better
>>


Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
Re: DJ needs this.....I think 200 feet will do you fine [message #90903 is a reply to message #90902] Tue, 02 October 2007 10:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gantt Kushner is currently offline  Gantt Kushner   
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I think I recall reading somewhere that George Massenburg used high quality
(but not audio-fool) 12 gauge speaker cable.

"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>But then you need "perfect" speakers in an acoustically transparent environment,
>neither of which any two testers could probably agree upon since neither
>is really possible.
>
>gantt
>
>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>
>>Or third, using test equipment. For example, running test signals down

>>the cable, recording them with a highly accurate recorder, and comparing
>
>>the playback using test/analysis gear, and with phase cancellation, to

>>the original signal recorded on the same highly accurate recorder.
>>
>>Complicated by the speaker level signals, but it seems doable.
>>
>>Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>DC wrote:
>>> There's 2 kinds of proof that matter: There's the kind that is shown
>>> in double-blind tests where someone can ID which cable is which
>>> when someone else is changing them w/o him seeing, and there is
>>> the proof that comes from someone who knows what the recording
>>> should sound like, and that only works when there is an objective
>>> acoustic reference point. An orchestra, or acoustic jazz for instance.
>>>
>>> DC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> Yeah, but how do you prove it? There was a thread (one of many) on
R.A.P.
>>>> discussing this and the point was made that while you can certainly
make
>>>> cable that sounds DIFFERENT how can you know that it's actually more
>accurate?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> An age old debate... with no end in sight!
>>>>
>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>> http://digg.com/gadgets/1_Million_If_Audiophiles_Can_Prove_7 250_Speaker_Cable_Are_Better
>>>
>


Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
Re: DJ needs this.....I think 200 feet will do you fine [message #90904 is a reply to message #90903] Tue, 02 October 2007 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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as long as i can listen to it on 64kb/s mp3 with earbuds what's the
prob?


On 3 Oct 2007 03:27:43 +1000, "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net>
wrote:

>
>I think I recall reading somewhere that George Massenburg used high quality
>(but not audio-fool) 12 gauge speaker cable.
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>But then you need "perfect" speakers in an acoustically transparent environment,
>>neither of which any two testers could probably agree upon since neither
>>is really possible.
>>
>>gantt
>>
>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Or third, using test equipment. For example, running test signals down
>
>>>the cable, recording them with a highly accurate recorder, and comparing
>>
>>>the playback using test/analysis gear, and with phase cancellation, to
>
>>>the original signal recorded on the same highly accurate recorder.
>>>
>>>Complicated by the speaker level signals, but it seems doable.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>DC wrote:
>>>> There's 2 kinds of proof that matter: There's the kind that is shown
>>>> in double-blind tests where someone can ID which cable is which
>>>> when someone else is changing them w/o him seeing, and there is
>>>> the proof that comes from someone who knows what the recording
>>>> should sound like, and that only works when there is an objective
>>>> acoustic reference point. An orchestra, or acoustic jazz for instance.
>>>>
>>>> DC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> Yeah, but how do you prove it? There was a thread (one of many) on
>R.A.P.
>>>>> discussing this and the point was made that while you can certainly
>make
>>>>> cable that sounds DIFFERENT how can you know that it's actually more
>>accurate?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> An age old debate... with no end in sight!
>>>>>
>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>> http://digg.com/gadgets/1_Million_If_Audiophiles_Can_Prove_7 250_Speaker_Cable_Are_Better
>>>>
>>
Re: DJ needs this.....I think 200 feet will do you fine [message #90944 is a reply to message #90899] Thu, 04 October 2007 02:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
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I'm with you. I think anyone who thinks they could hear the difference is
hallucinating. I hate pointless extravagance.

S


"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:47027775$1@linux...
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>
>>For sure better cables can really be better in some ways, but whether one
>
>>can hear a 145x improvement over a $50 cable...
>
>
> These things are for rich guys who fill their lives buying expensive
> baubles.
>
> They should find a nice charity instead.
>
> DC
>
Re: DJ needs this.....I think 200 feet will do you fine [message #90948 is a reply to message #90944] Thu, 04 October 2007 07:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>I'm with you. I think anyone who thinks they could hear the difference
is
>hallucinating. I hate pointless extravagance.

Great name for a band... "Pointless Extravagance".

:D
Re: DJ needs this.....I think 200 feet will do you fine [message #90962 is a reply to message #90948] Thu, 04 October 2007 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gene Lennon[4] is currently offline  Gene Lennon[4]
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I have two groundhogs in my back yard fattening up for the winter. I was just
about to name them Pointless and Extravagance.
Gene


"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>I'm with you. I think anyone who thinks they could hear the difference
>is
>>hallucinating. I hate pointless extravagance.
>
>Great name for a band... "Pointless Extravagance".
>
>:D
Re: DJ needs this.....I think 200 feet will do you fine [message #91005 is a reply to message #90948] Fri, 05 October 2007 16:21 Go to previous message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
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Yeah, but it would have to be a speed metal band. :)

S


"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4704fc0f$1@linux...
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>I'm with you. I think anyone who thinks they could hear the difference
> is
>>hallucinating. I hate pointless extravagance.
>
> Great name for a band... "Pointless Extravagance".
>
> :D
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