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Tyrone Corbett is currently offline  Tyrone Corbett   
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I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity. Any
suggestions?

Thanks

Tyrone
Re: Patch bays [message #91764 is a reply to message #91762] Mon, 22 October 2007 12:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
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Don't use them for mic lines... they will work great for line level.

David.

Tyrone Corbett wrote:
> I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity. Any
> suggestions?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tyrone
Re: Patch bays [message #91765 is a reply to message #91762] Mon, 22 October 2007 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dc[3] is currently offline  dc[3]
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Here's the part # we spec for the studios we design and install:

B96DC-FNLIT/E3 M2OU12B

From these guys:

http://www.bittree.com/

here's a pic:

http://www.bittree.com/productdetail.cfm?productID=111256

They use connectors on the back so you can repatch or
reconfigure those connections easily, and you can setup/change
normals from the front with jumpers under the designation strips.

Very nice stuff. Not the cheapest though. around 1100 or so.
Fantastic support.

Whatever you get, remember to use only zero-residue contact
cleaner to keep them and the cables clean. Never use contact
preservative of any kind.



DC


"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity. Any
>suggestions?
>
>Thanks
>
>Tyrone
Re: Patch bays [message #91766 is a reply to message #91764] Mon, 22 October 2007 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dc[3] is currently offline  dc[3]
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EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>Don't use them for mic lines... they will work great for line level.
>
>David.

YES! We only use gold-contact Neutrik XLR jack panels and
XLR shorty cables for mic patch bays.

DC
Re: Patch bays [message #91767 is a reply to message #91765] Mon, 22 October 2007 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tyrone Corbett is currently offline  Tyrone Corbett   
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Thanks guys. All the info is much appreciated. Dc, I use to setup the ADC
bays that you use a puch tool with when I worked in TV. I liked the design
but didn't know if they were as flexible in terms of dealing with Normal,
Half Normal, etc.

Any thoughts?

Tyrone
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>Here's the part # we spec for the studios we design and install:
>
>B96DC-FNLIT/E3 M2OU12B
>
>From these guys:
>
>http://www.bittree.com/
>
>here's a pic:
>
>http://www.bittree.com/productdetail.cfm?productID=111256
>
>They use connectors on the back so you can repatch or
>reconfigure those connections easily, and you can setup/change
>normals from the front with jumpers under the designation strips.
>
>Very nice stuff. Not the cheapest though. around 1100 or so.
>Fantastic support.
>
>Whatever you get, remember to use only zero-residue contact
>cleaner to keep them and the cables clean. Never use contact
>preservative of any kind.
>
>
>
>DC
>
>
>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity. Any
>>suggestions?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Tyrone
>
Re: Patch bays [message #91769 is a reply to message #91762] Mon, 22 October 2007 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gene Lennon[6] is currently offline  Gene Lennon[6]
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I looked at this system at AES:

http://www.patchbays.com/Shorti_DB25.htm

The DB25 interface is becoming ubiquitous, not just in Pro Tools. Even without
the need for DB25 integration, this allows for a fully setup bay with XLR
ends at a variety of lengths for about 2K. The “normal” jumpers were solid
and easy to change. This kind of system is appealing because it can easily
be repurposed or moved.
A custom wired 96 would be far more, and DIY is murder on Bantam/TT.

Gene

"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity. Any
>suggestions?
>
>Thanks
>
>Tyrone
Re: Patch bays [message #91770 is a reply to message #91769] Mon, 22 October 2007 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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Man,

That's nice Gene. I'm tempted to jump on this. I've got enough TRS>XLR and
TRS>TRS snakes around here that I could easily Eay them and have enough left
over to pay for one of these systems.

"Gene Lennon" <g@mail.com> wrote in message news:471d0e7c$1@linux...
>
> I looked at this system at AES:
>
> http://www.patchbays.com/Shorti_DB25.htm
>
> The DB25 interface is becoming ubiquitous, not just in Pro Tools. Even
> without
> the need for DB25 integration, this allows for a fully setup bay with XLR
> ends at a variety of lengths for about 2K. The "normal" jumpers were solid
> and easy to change. This kind of system is appealing because it can easily
> be repurposed or moved.
> A custom wired 96 would be far more, and DIY is murder on Bantam/TT.
>
> Gene
>
> "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity. Any
>>suggestions?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Tyrone
>
Re: Patch bays [message #91771 is a reply to message #91769] Mon, 22 October 2007 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
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Those normaling switches scare the crap out of me though... I would have
preferred jumpers.

David.

Gene Lennon wrote:

> I looked at this system at AES:
>
> http://www.patchbays.com/Shorti_DB25.htm
>
> The DB25 interface is becoming ubiquitous, not just in Pro Tools. Even without
> the need for DB25 integration, this allows for a fully setup bay with XLR
> ends at a variety of lengths for about 2K. The “normal” jumpers were solid
> and easy to change. This kind of system is appealing because it can easily
> be repurposed or moved.
> A custom wired 96 would be far more, and DIY is murder on Bantam/TT.
>
> Gene
>
> "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity. Any
>>suggestions?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Tyrone
>
>
Re: Patch bays [message #91772 is a reply to message #91769] Mon, 22 October 2007 15:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tyrone Corbett is currently offline  Tyrone Corbett   
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Registered: August 2006
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Gene, this was looking good till you mentioned 2K. Much appreciated, but no
mucho dinero ;-)

Tyrone

"Gene Lennon" <g@mail.com> wrote:
>
>I looked at this system at AES:
>
>http://www.patchbays.com/Shorti_DB25.htm
>
>The DB25 interface is becoming ubiquitous, not just in Pro Tools. Even without
>the need for DB25 integration, this allows for a fully setup bay with XLR
>ends at a variety of lengths for about 2K. The “normal” jumpers were solid
>and easy to change. This kind of system is appealing because it can easily
>be repurposed or moved.
>A custom wired 96 would be far more, and DIY is murder on Bantam/TT.
>
>Gene
>
>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity. Any
>>suggestions?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Tyrone
>
Re: Patch bays [message #91774 is a reply to message #91767] Mon, 22 October 2007 16:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dc[3] is currently offline  dc[3]
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The Bittree rear connector is really secure, and you can
patch the connections at the rear of the unit around without
pulling up punch down wires or desoldering.

The cool part is setting up normals:

http://www.bittree.com/catalog/detail2.cfm?pageID=931

We are dealers and I can get you a good price if you want one.

You will probably want the tool for crimping the rear connectors.
I think it is about 100.00.

DC


"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Thanks guys. All the info is much appreciated. Dc, I use to setup the ADC
>bays that you use a puch tool with when I worked in TV. I liked the design
>but didn't know if they were as flexible in terms of dealing with Normal,
>Half Normal, etc.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Tyrone
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>Here's the part # we spec for the studios we design and install:
>>
>>B96DC-FNLIT/E3 M2OU12B
>>
>>From these guys:
>>
>>http://www.bittree.com/
>>
>>here's a pic:
>>
>>http://www.bittree.com/productdetail.cfm?productID=111256
>>
>>They use connectors on the back so you can repatch or
>>reconfigure those connections easily, and you can setup/change
>>normals from the front with jumpers under the designation strips.
>>
>>Very nice stuff. Not the cheapest though. around 1100 or so.
>>Fantastic support.
>>
>>Whatever you get, remember to use only zero-residue contact
>>cleaner to keep them and the cables clean. Never use contact
>>preservative of any kind.
>>
>>
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity.
Any
>>>suggestions?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Tyrone
>>
>
Re: Patch bays [message #91780 is a reply to message #91774] Mon, 22 October 2007 18:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tyrone Corbett is currently offline  Tyrone Corbett   
Messages: 253
Registered: August 2006
Senior Member
Thanks DC, I'll check it out.

Tyrone

"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>The Bittree rear connector is really secure, and you can
>patch the connections at the rear of the unit around without
>pulling up punch down wires or desoldering.
>
>The cool part is setting up normals:
>
>http://www.bittree.com/catalog/detail2.cfm?pageID=931
>
>We are dealers and I can get you a good price if you want one.
>
>You will probably want the tool for crimping the rear connectors.
>I think it is about 100.00.
>
>DC
>
>
>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks guys. All the info is much appreciated. Dc, I use to setup the ADC
>>bays that you use a puch tool with when I worked in TV. I liked the design
>>but didn't know if they were as flexible in terms of dealing with Normal,
>>Half Normal, etc.
>>
>>Any thoughts?
>>
>>Tyrone
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Here's the part # we spec for the studios we design and install:
>>>
>>>B96DC-FNLIT/E3 M2OU12B
>>>
>>>From these guys:
>>>
>>>http://www.bittree.com/
>>>
>>>here's a pic:
>>>
>>>http://www.bittree.com/productdetail.cfm?productID=111256
>>>
>>>They use connectors on the back so you can repatch or
>>>reconfigure those connections easily, and you can setup/change
>>>normals from the front with jumpers under the designation strips.
>>>
>>>Very nice stuff. Not the cheapest though. around 1100 or so.
>>>Fantastic support.
>>>
>>>Whatever you get, remember to use only zero-residue contact
>>>cleaner to keep them and the cables clean. Never use contact
>>>preservative of any kind.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
>>>
>>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity.
>Any
>>>>suggestions?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>Tyrone
>>>
>>
>
Re: Patch bays [message #91784 is a reply to message #91771] Mon, 22 October 2007 18:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gene Lennon[4] is currently offline  Gene Lennon[4]
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Registered: November 2006
Junior Member
It is jumpers. A larger version of hard drive setup selectors. Ultra low resistance
and they can be “worked” every year or so to remove any oxidation.
g


EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>Those normaling switches scare the crap out of me though... I would have

>preferred jumpers.
>
>David.
>
>Gene Lennon wrote:
>
>> I looked at this system at AES:
>>
>> http://www.patchbays.com/Shorti_DB25.htm
>>
>> The DB25 interface is becoming ubiquitous, not just in Pro Tools. Even
without
>> the need for DB25 integration, this allows for a fully setup bay with
XLR
>> ends at a variety of lengths for about 2K. The “normal” jumpers were solid
>> and easy to change. This kind of system is appealing because it can easily
>> be repurposed or moved.
>> A custom wired 96 would be far more, and DIY is murder on Bantam/TT.
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity.
Any
>>>suggestions?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Tyrone
>>
>>
Re: Patch bays [message #91832 is a reply to message #91784] Tue, 23 October 2007 10:07 Go to previous message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
Then why does the description say "switch"? Sure looks like switches in
the picture as well...

David.

Gene Lennon wrote:
> It is jumpers. A larger version of hard drive setup selectors. Ultra low resistance
> and they can be “worked” every year or so to remove any oxidation.
> g
>
>
> EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>Those normaling switches scare the crap out of me though... I would have
>
>
>>preferred jumpers.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Gene Lennon wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I looked at this system at AES:
>>>
>>>http://www.patchbays.com/Shorti_DB25.htm
>>>
>>>The DB25 interface is becoming ubiquitous, not just in Pro Tools. Even
>
> without
>
>>>the need for DB25 integration, this allows for a fully setup bay with
>
> XLR
>
>>>ends at a variety of lengths for about 2K. The “normal” jumpers were solid
>>>and easy to change. This kind of system is appealing because it can easily
>>>be repurposed or moved.
>>>A custom wired 96 would be far more, and DIY is murder on Bantam/TT.
>>>
>>>Gene
>>>
>>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity.
>
> Any
>
>>>>suggestions?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>Tyrone
>>>
>>>
>
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