The PARIS Forums: PARIS: Main » a favor to ask

Home » The PARIS Forums » PARIS: Main » a favor to ask

Show: Today's Messages :: Polls :: Message Navigator

a favor to ask [message #88453]

Mon, 23 July 2007 13:27

DJ

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying to
get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to happen
to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling a
bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of my
esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion of
the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm wondering
if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
significant.

Here's a link:

http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html

At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to the
next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after 15
seconds you can click on it to DL the file.

Thanks,

Deej

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88454 is a reply to message #88453]

Mon, 23 July 2007 14:05

LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005

Senior Member

Sounds great.. You can push it more for my taste :).. I did not hear the hiss..I'll
check again in the studio..

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying
to
>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to happen

>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling
a
>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of my

>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion
of
>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm wondering

>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>significant.
>
>Here's a link:
>
> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>
>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to the

>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after
15
>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88464 is a reply to message #88453]

Mon, 23 July 2007 18:43

Bill L

Messages: 766
Registered: August 2006

Senior Member

I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
heard a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's
prolly worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.

DJ wrote:
> I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying to
> get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to happen
> to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling a
> bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of my
> esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion of
> the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm wondering
> if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
> significant.
>
> Here's a link:
>
> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>
> At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to the
> next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after 15
> seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>
>

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88465 is a reply to message #88464]

Mon, 23 July 2007 18:57

Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
heard it as well).

Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
& be the one to find it! lol

Neil

Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>heard a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's
>prolly worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>
>DJ wrote:
>> I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying
to
>> get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to happen

>> to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling
a
>> bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of
my
>> esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion
of
>> the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm wondering

>> if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something

>> significant.
>>
>> Here's a link:
>>
>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>
>> At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to
the
>> next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after
15
>> seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88466 is a reply to message #88465]

Mon, 23 July 2007 19:05

audioguy_editout_

Messages: 249
Registered: December 2005

Senior Member

I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal
music you record over there... ;-)

David.

Neil wrote:
> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
> heard it as well).
>
> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
> & be the one to find it! lol
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>
>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>>heard a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's
>>prolly worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>
>>DJ wrote:
>>
>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying
>
> to
>
>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to happen
>
>
>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling
>
> a
>
>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of
>
> my
>
>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion
>
> of
>
>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm wondering
>
>
>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>
>
>>>significant.
>>>
>>>Here's a link:
>>>
>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>
>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to
>
> the
>
>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after
>
> 15
>
>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>
>
>

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88467 is a reply to message #88466]

Mon, 23 July 2007 19:13

DJ

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was definitely
contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
without.

"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>record over there... ;-)
>
> David.
>
> Neil wrote:
>> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>> heard it as well).
>>
>> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>> & be the one to find it! lol
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I heard
>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's prolly
>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>
>>>DJ wrote:
>>>
>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying
>>
>> to
>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>>>>happen
>>
>>
>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling
>>
>> a
>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of
>>
>> my
>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion
>>
>> of
>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>wondering
>>
>>
>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>>
>>
>>>>significant.
>>>>
>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>
>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to
>>
>> the
>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after
>>
>> 15
>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Deej
>>>>
>>

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88468 is a reply to message #88467]

Mon, 23 July 2007 19:23

Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?

And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)

Neil

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was definitely

>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>without.
>
>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you

>>record over there... ;-)
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Neil wrote:
>>> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>> heard it as well).
>>>
>>> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>> & be the one to find it! lol
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I heard

>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's prolly

>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>
>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying
>>>
>>> to
>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to

>>>>>happen
>>>
>>>
>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling
>>>
>>> a
>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of
>>>
>>> my
>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion
>>>
>>> of
>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>wondering
>>>
>>>
>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>>>
>>>
>>>>>significant.
>>>>>
>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>
>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to
>>>
>>> the
>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after
>>>
>>> 15
>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Deej
>>>>>
>>>
>

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88470 is a reply to message #88468]

Mon, 23 July 2007 19:25

DJ

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the the
buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard. Maybe
this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the damn
send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
sleepmixing.

;oP

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>
> HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>
> And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
> hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
> piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
> points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>
> Neil
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>definitely
>
>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>without.
>>
>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>
>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> Neil wrote:
>>>> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>> heard it as well).
>>>>
>>>> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>> & be the one to find it! lol
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>>>>>heard
>
>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's prolly
>
>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>
>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>trying
>>>>
>>>> to
>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>
>>>>>>happen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>
>>>> a
>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of
>>>>
>>>> my
>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>portion
>>>>
>>>> of
>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>wondering
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to
>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and
>>>>>>after
>>>>
>>>> 15
>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88471 is a reply to message #88470]

Mon, 23 July 2007 19:33

audioguy_editout_

Messages: 249
Registered: December 2005

Senior Member

Warm that vocal up a tad while you're at it! ;-)

David.

DJ wrote:

> maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the the
> buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard. Maybe
> this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the damn
> send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
> sleepmixing.
>
> ;oP
>
>
>
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>
>>HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>>
>>And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
>>hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
>>piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
>>points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>
>>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>>definitely
>>
>>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>>without.
>>>
>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>>
>>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>>>someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>>>this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>>>engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>>>heard it as well).
>>>>>
>>>>>Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>>>& be the one to find it! lol
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>>>>>>heard
>>
>>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's prolly
>>
>>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>>trying
>>>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>>
>>>>>>>happen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of
>>>>>
>>>>>my
>>>>>
>>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>>portion
>>>>>
>>>>>of
>>>>>
>>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>>wondering
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to
>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and
>>>>>>>after
>>>>>
>>>>>15
>>>>>
>>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>
>

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88472 is a reply to message #88471]

Mon, 23 July 2007 19:55

DJ

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

To really understand what I'm going for here as far as the vocal, this is
the song I was asked to use as a relative "go by"

http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197417/Tried-True-and-Teste d-mp3.html

;o)

"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:46a56644$1@linux...
> Warm that vocal up a tad while you're at it! ;-)
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
>
>> maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the
>> the buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard.
>> Maybe this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the
>> damn send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
>> sleepmixing.
>>
>> ;oP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>>
>>>HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>>>
>>>And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
>>>hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
>>>piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
>>>points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>>>definitely
>>>
>>>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>>>without.
>>>>
>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>>>
>>>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>David.
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>>>>someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>>>>this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>>>>engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>>>>heard it as well).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>>>>& be the one to find it! lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>>>>>>>heard
>>>
>>>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's
>>>>>>>prolly
>>>
>>>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>>>trying
>>>>>>
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>>>
>>>>>>>>happen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>>>
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>my
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>>>portion
>>>>>>
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>>>wondering
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing
>>>>>>>>something
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and
>>>>>>>>after
>>>>>>
>>>>>>15
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88473 is a reply to message #88453]

Mon, 23 July 2007 21:03

gene lennon
Messages: 565
Registered: July 2006

Senior Member

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

---=_linux46a579fb
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I don�t think its noise; I think it�s a small amount of harmonic clipping
in the 6-10K range. The track sounds very good overall, but there is a lot
of information in the 8K range� Both peak and average. This could be caused
by, or at least exaggerated by the MP3 conversion. Since you are using a
file sharing service, why don�t you post the wave files.
Gene
---=_linux46a579fb
Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="DJ.jpg"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="DJ.jpg"
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---=_linux46a579fb--

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88475 is a reply to message #88470]

Mon, 23 July 2007 21:34

Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

Deej, no he's not hitting the sidestick or snare at ALL in the
section I'm noticing it most.

It could be something as a result of the send from the hat you
mentioned, but I don't hear it pulsing with the hat, it's
pretty steady in that small section until it drops out, and it
sounds like it's got a short fadeout to it, just a couple
seconds in length, so it COULD be an automated send to a piece
of outboard gear bringing some noise back into the system.

Just out of curiosity, what piece of gear is the send that
you're referring to going to? Also, is it one that you're doing
some kind of format conversion on (SPDIF to AES, for example)?

Neil

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the
the
>buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard. Maybe

>this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the damn

>send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
>sleepmixing.
>
>;oP
>
>
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>>
>> HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>>
>> And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
>> hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
>> piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
>> points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>>definitely
>>
>>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>>without.
>>>
>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>>
>>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>> Neil wrote:
>>>>> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>>> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>>> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>>> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>>> heard it as well).
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>>> & be the one to find it! lol
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I

>>>>>>heard
>>
>>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's prolly
>>
>>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>>trying
>>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>>
>>>>>>>happen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One
of
>>>>>
>>>>> my
>>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>>portion
>>>>>
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>>wondering
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you
to
>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and

>>>>>>>after
>>>>>
>>>>> 15
>>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88476 is a reply to message #88473]

Mon, 23 July 2007 21:39

Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

Geno, if it were a result of the mp3 conversion, wouldn't it be
happening throughout the piece if it's what you're referring
to? So are you hearing it, too?

But yes, good idea, post the wav's on that filesharing thang!

Neil

"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>I don�t think its noise; I think it�s a small amount of harmonic clipping
>in the 6-10K range. The track sounds very good overall, but there is a lot
>of information in the 8K range� Both peak and average. This could be caused
>by, or at least exaggerated by the MP3 conversion. Since you are using a
>file sharing service, why don�t you post the wave files.
>Gene

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88477 is a reply to message #88472]

Mon, 23 July 2007 21:58

JeffH

Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR

Senior Member

Don't tell the singer, but I was using "Wasted away in Margaritaville"
at least for the middle section.

:-)

Jeff

J wrote:
> To really understand what I'm going for here as far as the vocal, this is
> the song I was asked to use as a relative "go by"
>
> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197417/Tried-True-and-Teste d-mp3.html
>
> ;o)
>
>
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:46a56644$1@linux...
>
>>Warm that vocal up a tad while you're at it! ;-)
>>
>>David.
>>
>>DJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the
>>>the buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard.
>>>Maybe this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the
>>>damn send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
>>>sleepmixing.
>>>
>>>;oP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>>>>
>>>>And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
>>>>hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
>>>>piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
>>>>points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>>>>definitely
>>>>
>>>>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>>>>without.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>>>>
>>>>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>>>>>someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>>>>>this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>>>>>engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>>>>>heard it as well).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>>>>>& be the one to find it! lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>>>>>>>>heard
>>>>
>>>>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's
>>>>>>>>prolly
>>>>
>>>>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>>>>trying
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>happen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One
>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>>>>portion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>>>>wondering
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing
>>>>>>>>>something
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you
>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and
>>>>>>>>>after
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>15
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88481 is a reply to message #88475]

Mon, 23 July 2007 22:15

DJ

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

Neil,

It's a Quantec Yardstick. There is a Behringer SRC2496 format converter
interpatching it with an RME ADI4-DD unit which is interfacing another
SRC2496. The Behringers allow me to use the Quantec at 88.2 if need be, but
in this case it's AES>AES, with no format conversion happening. Two of these
are also being used to digitally interpatch my Roland R-880 which is
processing the vocal track.

Here's a link to the 16/44.1 .wav file.

http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197440/Faith-In-Love-wav.ht ml

I have run this through every analyzer in Wavelab and it is showing no
digital problems at all. I'm going to go back an do some testing and
reevaluation of the reverbs.

Roland R-880 is on vocal, the Quantec is on guitars, mandolin snare and
OH's. A Lexicon PCM 91 is on the fiddles and a sony V77 (drumroom setting)
is processing the both kick tracks, both snare tracks, the OH's and the
electric bass. there is also a TC Elctronics D-2 processing the left panned
strings. All of these processors are digitally interfaced. they are all
clocked properly and the system is dead quiet when idling.

;o)

Deej

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a58149$1@linux...
>
> Deej, no he's not hitting the sidestick or snare at ALL in the
> section I'm noticing it most.
>
> It could be something as a result of the send from the hat you
> mentioned, but I don't hear it pulsing with the hat, it's
> pretty steady in that small section until it drops out, and it
> sounds like it's got a short fadeout to it, just a couple
> seconds in length, so it COULD be an automated send to a piece
> of outboard gear bringing some noise back into the system.
>
> Just out of curiosity, what piece of gear is the send that
> you're referring to going to? Also, is it one that you're doing
> some kind of format conversion on (SPDIF to AES, for example)?
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the
> the
>>buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard. Maybe
>
>>this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the damn
>
>>send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
>>sleepmixing.
>>
>>;oP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>>>
>>> HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>>>
>>> And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
>>> hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
>>> piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
>>> points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>>>definitely
>>>
>>>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>>>without.
>>>>
>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>>>
>>>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil wrote:
>>>>>> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>>>> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>>>> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>>>> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>>>> heard it as well).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>>>> & be the one to find it! lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>
>>>>>>>heard
>>>
>>>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's
>>>>>>>prolly
>>>
>>>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>>>trying
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>>>
>>>>>>>>happen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One
> of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>>>portion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>>>wondering
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing
>>>>>>>>something
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you
> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and
>
>>>>>>>>after
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 15
>>>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88482 is a reply to message #88476]

Mon, 23 July 2007 22:16

DJ

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

">
> But yes, good idea, post the wav's on that filesharing thang!
>
> Neil
>

Done. check the answer to your post above.

thanks,

Deej

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88483 is a reply to message #88476]

Mon, 23 July 2007 22:26

gene lennon
Messages: 565
Registered: July 2006

Senior Member

�Geno, if it were a result of the mp3 conversion, wouldn't it be
happening throughout the piece�

No. I hear periodic artifacts in MP3s all the time. Particularly in ones
I make.

�So are you hearing it, too?�
Yes..subtle. Not really broadband noise to me.

Gene

"Nei" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Geno, if it were a result of the mp3 conversion, wouldn't it be
>happening throughout the piece if it's what you're referring
>to? So are you hearing it, too?
>
>But yes, good idea, post the wav's on that filesharing thang!
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>I don�t think its noise; I think it�s a small amount of harmonic clipping
>>in the 6-10K range. The track sounds very good overall, but there is a
lot
>>of information in the 8K range� Both peak and average. This could be caused
>>by, or at least exaggerated by the MP3 conversion. Since you are using
a
>>file sharing service, why don�t you post the wave files.
>>Gene
>

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88486 is a reply to message #88481]

Mon, 23 July 2007 22:56

Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

OK, it's absolutely not a result of the mp3 encoding, because
it's there on the wav file, too... and I think you might be
right about it being the hihat send EFX, because on the wav
file I can hear it pulsing/oscillating a bit (not enough detail
on the mp3's, I guess, since it seemed steady-state therein
during the section I'm referring to).

FWIW, I think this a great mix, and you did a superb job on the
recording, but that "hiss" is really distracting during that one
part, izallimsayin'.

Neil

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Neil,
>
>It's a Quantec Yardstick. There is a Behringer SRC2496 format converter

>interpatching it with an RME ADI4-DD unit which is interfacing another
>SRC2496. The Behringers allow me to use the Quantec at 88.2 if need be,
but
>in this case it's AES>AES, with no format conversion happening. Two of these

>are also being used to digitally interpatch my Roland R-880 which is
>processing the vocal track.
>
>Here's a link to the 16/44.1 .wav file.
>
> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197440/Faith-In-Love-wav.ht ml
>
>I have run this through every analyzer in Wavelab and it is showing no
>digital problems at all. I'm going to go back an do some testing and
>reevaluation of the reverbs.
>
>Roland R-880 is on vocal, the Quantec is on guitars, mandolin snare and

>OH's. A Lexicon PCM 91 is on the fiddles and a sony V77 (drumroom setting)

>is processing the both kick tracks, both snare tracks, the OH's and the

>electric bass. there is also a TC Elctronics D-2 processing the left panned

>strings. All of these processors are digitally interfaced. they are all

>clocked properly and the system is dead quiet when idling.
>
>;o)
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a58149$1@linux...
>>
>> Deej, no he's not hitting the sidestick or snare at ALL in the
>> section I'm noticing it most.
>>
>> It could be something as a result of the send from the hat you
>> mentioned, but I don't hear it pulsing with the hat, it's
>> pretty steady in that small section until it drops out, and it
>> sounds like it's got a short fadeout to it, just a couple
>> seconds in length, so it COULD be an automated send to a piece
>> of outboard gear bringing some noise back into the system.
>>
>> Just out of curiosity, what piece of gear is the send that
>> you're referring to going to? Also, is it one that you're doing
>> some kind of format conversion on (SPDIF to AES, for example)?
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the
>> the
>>>buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard. Maybe
>>
>>>this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the damn
>>
>>>send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
>>>sleepmixing.
>>>
>>>;oP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>>>>
>>>> HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>>>>
>>>> And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
>>>> hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
>>>> piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
>>>> points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>>>>definitely
>>>>
>>>>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>>>>without.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music
you
>>>>
>>>>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neil wrote:
>>>>>>> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>>>>> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>>>>> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>>>>> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>>>>> heard it as well).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>>>>> & be the one to find it! lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or
I
>>
>>>>>>>>heard
>>>>
>>>>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's

>>>>>>>>prolly
>>>>
>>>>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>>>>trying
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs
to
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>happen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One
>> of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>>>>portion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>>>>wondering
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing
>>>>>>>>>something
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you
>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and
>>
>>>>>>>>>after
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 15
>>>>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88492 is a reply to message #88486]

Tue, 24 July 2007 05:35

DJ

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

"Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a59493$1@linux...
>
> OK, it's absolutely not a result of the mp3 encoding, because
> it's there on the wav file, too... and I think you might be
> right about it being the hihat send EFX, because on the wav
> file I can hear it pulsing/oscillating a bit (not enough detail
> on the mp3's, I guess, since it seemed steady-state therein
> during the section I'm referring to).
>
> FWIW, I think this a great mix, and you did a superb job on the
> recording, but that "hiss" is really distracting during that one
> part, izallimsayin'.
>
>
> Neil
>

I really appreciate the time that you and others took to give this a listen
and help me out here. My ears sure aren't what they used to be a few years
ago, but I've been overusing them and have developed a pretty good case of
Tinnitus recently. It usually goes away if I give them a rest for a few
days. I really never monitor at levels above 80dB any more, usually try to
keep it to around 72-75dB.

Getting old sorta' sucks sometimes.

;o)

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88493 is a reply to message #88492]

Tue, 24 July 2007 06:53

gene lennon
Messages: 565
Registered: July 2006

Senior Member

I took a few hours off to listen with fresh ears. The hiss I hear is probably
reverb related and far below a point that I would have any issues with it
as a listener or as an engineer. The somewhat irritating (hard sounding)
ess-e-ness of the MP3 is gone in the waves version.
I like the mix and the recording. It still has more 8K-12K, than I personally
like but it is a nice modern sounding recording. The vocals are particularly
clear and bright with no offending sibilance�s.
My only real issue with this track is the drummer. In all other respects
the production is very good.
Gene

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>I really appreciate the time that you and others took to give this a listen

>and help me out here. My ears sure aren't what they used to be a few years

>ago, but I've been overusing them and have developed a pretty good case
of
>Tinnitus recently. It usually goes away if I give them a rest for a few

>days. I really never monitor at levels above 80dB any more, usually try
to
>keep it to around 72-75dB.
>
>Getting old sorta' sucks sometimes.
>
>;o)
>
>
>

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88494 is a reply to message #88470]

Tue, 24 July 2007 08:18

John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

Sleepmixing! You're a genius. Now I know how to get those extra hours in.

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88505 is a reply to message #88493]

Tue, 24 July 2007 17:11

Martin Harrington

Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

Gene, that's pretty much what i felt.
The drummer was letting the team down a little, ( and I'm not too fussed on
the actual snare sound), but that's purely an old farts personal opinion.
The other thing I was a little concerned over was the singers pitch some
times, and the (intrusive) fiddle in the first part of the piece.
Some nice recording and mixing though Deej.
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
0414 913 247
"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:46a6043d$1@linux...
>
> I took a few hours off to listen with fresh ears. The hiss I hear is
> probably
> reverb related and far below a point that I would have any issues with it
> as a listener or as an engineer. The somewhat irritating (hard sounding)
> ess-e-ness of the MP3 is gone in the waves version.
> I like the mix and the recording. It still has more 8K-12K, than I
> personally
> like but it is a nice modern sounding recording. The vocals are
> particularly
> clear and bright with no offending sibilance�s.
> My only real issue with this track is the drummer. In all other respects
> the production is very good.
> Gene
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>
>>I really appreciate the time that you and others took to give this a
>>listen
>
>>and help me out here. My ears sure aren't what they used to be a few years
>
>>ago, but I've been overusing them and have developed a pretty good case
> of
>>Tinnitus recently. It usually goes away if I give them a rest for a few
>
>>days. I really never monitor at levels above 80dB any more, usually try
> to
>>keep it to around 72-75dB.
>>
>>Getting old sorta' sucks sometimes.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>
>>
>

--

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88506 is a reply to message #88505]

Tue, 24 July 2007 17:46

DJ

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:46a696a2$1@linux...
> Gene, that's pretty much what i felt.
> The drummer was letting the team down a little, ( and I'm not too fussed
> on the actual snare sound), but that's purely an old farts personal
> opinion.
> The other thing I was a little concerned over was the singers pitch some
> times, and the (intrusive) fiddle in the first part of the piece.
> Some nice recording and mixing though Deej.
> Martin Harrington
> www.lendanear-sound.com
> 0414 913 247

Heheh!!!.Thanks Martin. Funny how that fiddle at the beginning is so
controversial. Some folks love it and want it louder, others think it should
be lost altogether.

:o)

> "Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:46a6043d$1@linux...
>>
>> I took a few hours off to listen with fresh ears. The hiss I hear is
>> probably
>> reverb related and far below a point that I would have any issues with it
>> as a listener or as an engineer. The somewhat irritating (hard sounding)
>> ess-e-ness of the MP3 is gone in the waves version.
>> I like the mix and the recording. It still has more 8K-12K, than I
>> personally
>> like but it is a nice modern sounding recording. The vocals are
>> particularly
>> clear and bright with no offending sibilance�s.
>> My only real issue with this track is the drummer. In all other respects
>> the production is very good.
>> Gene
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>
>>>I really appreciate the time that you and others took to give this a
>>>listen
>>
>>>and help me out here. My ears sure aren't what they used to be a few
>>>years
>>
>>>ago, but I've been overusing them and have developed a pretty good case
>> of
>>>Tinnitus recently. It usually goes away if I give them a rest for a few
>>
>>>days. I really never monitor at levels above 80dB any more, usually try
>> to
>>>keep it to around 72-75dB.
>>>
>>>Getting old sorta' sucks sometimes.
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
>
>

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88522 is a reply to message #88492]

Wed, 25 July 2007 01:51

rick

Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006

Senior Member

not to worry...in a couple years you'll forget whatever it is that
bothers you about your age...daily.

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:35:22 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
net> wrote:

>
>"Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a59493$1@linux...
>>
>> OK, it's absolutely not a result of the mp3 encoding, because
>> it's there on the wav file, too... and I think you might be
>> right about it being the hihat send EFX, because on the wav
>> file I can hear it pulsing/oscillating a bit (not enough detail
>> on the mp3's, I guess, since it seemed steady-state therein
>> during the section I'm referring to).
>>
>> FWIW, I think this a great mix, and you did a superb job on the
>> recording, but that "hiss" is really distracting during that one
>> part, izallimsayin'.
>>
>>
>> Neil
>>
>
>I really appreciate the time that you and others took to give this a listen
>and help me out here. My ears sure aren't what they used to be a few years
>ago, but I've been overusing them and have developed a pretty good case of
>Tinnitus recently. It usually goes away if I give them a rest for a few
>days. I really never monitor at levels above 80dB any more, usually try to
>keep it to around 72-75dB.
>
>Getting old sorta' sucks sometimes.
>
>;o)
>
>

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88551 is a reply to message #88453]

Wed, 25 July 2007 22:44

Sarah

Messages: 608
Registered: February 2007

Senior Member

Wow, some good ears out there. I thought maybe I heard something around
where the mandolin crescendos just before the bridge, but maybe it's just
the snare rim reverb. My co-producer who is actually an engineer is the one
who deals with this kind of issue on our mixes, since I'm not generally
bothered by bits of noise, distortion, out-of-tuneness, etc. (Auto Tune . .
.. phehh)

Really I just wanted to say I thought it sounded real purty. Nice work. DJ.
:)

S

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:46a51089@linux...
> I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying to
> get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to happen
> to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling a
> bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of my
> esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion
> of the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
> wondering if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing
> something significant.
>
> Here's a link:
>
> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>
> At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to the
> next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after 15
> seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>

Report message to a moderator

Re: a favor to ask [message #88553 is a reply to message #88551]

Wed, 25 July 2007 23:06

DJ

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:46a83602@linux...
> Wow, some good ears out there. I thought maybe I heard something around
> where the mandolin crescendos just before the bridge, but maybe it's just
> the snare rim reverb. My co-producer who is actually an engineer is the
> one who deals with this kind of issue on our mixes, since I'm not
> generally bothered by bits of noise, distortion, out-of-tuneness, etc.
> (Auto Tune . . . phehh)
>
> Really I just wanted to say I thought it sounded real purty. Nice work.
> DJ. :)
>
> S

Thanks

;o)

Report message to a moderator

Previous Topic:	Your biggest reason for leaving Paris?
Next Topic:	The possibility of a new NG ISP...

Goto Forum:

-=] Back to Top [=-

[ Syndicate this forum (XML) ] [

] [

PDF

]

Current Time: Thu Dec 26 19:34:09 PST 2024

Total time taken to generate the page: 0.02932 seconds