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Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95880] Tue, 12 February 2008 09:21 Go to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html

I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple, M$FT,
and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business plan.


TCB
Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95883 is a reply to message #95880] Tue, 12 February 2008 08:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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Interesting. Good call Thad.

And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source for a
new operating system?
Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear (from
the review) to be a truly
viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.

The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think the
likelihood is of Haiku
developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources to
entice commercial apps - I can't
see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next decade.

Dedric

"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>
> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
> M$FT,
> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
> plan.
>
>
> TCB
Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95884 is a reply to message #95883] Tue, 12 February 2008 09:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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I'd say the odds of this gaining the desktop market share that _linxu_ has
is right up there with the 'I get into a threesome with Halle Berry and Maria
Sharapova' odds. So here's hoping they both happen!

I don't see any reason why Google would want a desktop OS.

TCB

"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Interesting. Good call Thad.
>
>And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source for
a
>new operating system?
>Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear (from

>the review) to be a truly
>viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>
>The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think the

>likelihood is of Haiku
>developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless

>Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources to

>entice commercial apps - I can't
>see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next decade.
>
>Dedric
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>
>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,

>> M$FT,
>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business

>> plan.
>>
>>
>> TCB
>
Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95885 is a reply to message #95884] Tue, 12 February 2008 09:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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Thad,
I still have a p3 800 system that has BeOS on it that runs and RME
Digi968 and Nuendo 1. Revolutionary but doomed.
Chris




TCB wrote:
> I'd say the odds of this gaining the desktop market share that _linxu_ has
> is right up there with the 'I get into a threesome with Halle Berry and Maria
> Sharapova' odds. So here's hoping they both happen!
>
> I don't see any reason why Google would want a desktop OS.
>
> TCB
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>> Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>
>> And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source for
> a
>> new operating system?
>> Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear (from
>
>> the review) to be a truly
>> viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>
>> The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think the
>
>> likelihood is of Haiku
>> developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>
>> Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>> not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources to
>
>> entice commercial apps - I can't
>> see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next decade.
>>
>> Dedric
>>
>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>
>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>
>>> M$FT,
>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>
>>> plan.
>>>
>>>
>>> TCB
>

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Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95886 is a reply to message #95883] Tue, 12 February 2008 11:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when Jobs
came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at the
time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
the name of the OS.

So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
and it can actually run some software.

"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Interesting. Good call Thad.
>
>And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source for
a
>new operating system?
>Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear (from

>the review) to be a truly
>viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>
>The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think the

>likelihood is of Haiku
>developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless

>Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources to

>entice commercial apps - I can't
>see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next decade.
>
>Dedric
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>
>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,

>> M$FT,
>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business

>> plan.
>>
>>
>> TCB
>
Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95887 is a reply to message #95884] Tue, 12 February 2008 11:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
steve the artguy is currently offline  steve the artguy
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>I don't see any reason why Google would want a desktop OS.

>TCB


why? because they can, of course....
Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95888 is a reply to message #95886] Tue, 12 February 2008 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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Ahead of it's time.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1659841654840942756

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when Jobs
>came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at the
>time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>the name of the OS.
>
>So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>and it can actually run some software.
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>
>>And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source for
>a
>>new operating system?
>>Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear (from
>
>>the review) to be a truly
>>viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>
>>The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think the
>
>>likelihood is of Haiku
>>developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>
>>Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
to
>
>>entice commercial apps - I can't
>>see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next decade.
>>
>>Dedric
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>
>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>
>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>
>>> M$FT,
>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>
>>> plan.
>>>
>>>
>>> TCB
>>
>
Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95889 is a reply to message #95888] Tue, 12 February 2008 10:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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Thanks for the news, Thad.

I like his idea of running it on an Eee PC.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


James McCloskey wrote:
> Ahead of it's time.
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1659841654840942756
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when Jobs
>> came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at the
>> time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>> although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>> the name of the OS.
>>
>> So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>> and it can actually run some software.
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>> Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>>
>>> And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source for
>> a
>>> new operating system?
>>> Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear (from
>>> the review) to be a truly
>>> viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>>
>>> The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think the
>>> likelihood is of Haiku
>>> developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>>> Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>> not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
> to
>>> entice commercial apps - I can't
>>> see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next decade.
>>>
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>>
>>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>>>> M$FT,
>>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>>>> plan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>
Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95890 is a reply to message #95888] Tue, 12 February 2008 10:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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Did you watch the section where he loaded 3 movies, 5 applications, graphics
animations, etc, ran the dual cpus (dual PIIs with
only 64M ram), beyond 100% usage, then turned one off - no screetching halt,
freeze or crash - just an elegant scaling down of the allocation of
resources.

Without a doubt, way ahead of it's time. In some ways, it still is.

Dedric

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47b1e612$1@linux...
>
> Ahead of it's time.
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1659841654840942756
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when Jobs
>>came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at the
>>time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>>although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>>the name of the OS.
>>
>>So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the
>>alternative,
>>and it can actually run some software.
>>
>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>>
>>>And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source for
>>a
>>>new operating system?
>>>Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear
>>>(from
>>
>>>the review) to be a truly
>>>viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>>
>>>The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think the
>>
>>>likelihood is of Haiku
>>>developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>>
>>>Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>>not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
> to
>>
>>>entice commercial apps - I can't
>>>see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next
>>>decade.
>>>
>>>Dedric
>>>
>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>>
>>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>>
>>>> M$FT,
>>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>>
>>>> plan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>
>>
>
Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95891 is a reply to message #95886] Tue, 12 February 2008 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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Yes, James, there is a group working on it. It's in my post, which you obviously
didn't bother to read before responding. It's called Haiku. Here's a haiku
for you.

James sure loves Apple
Balance his viewpoints can lack
Please read carefully

TCB

P.S. There was more to the BeOS deal than you describe here, but let's not
go down that road again . . .
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when Jobs
>came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at the
>time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>the name of the OS.
>
>So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>and it can actually run some software.
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>
>>And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source for
>a
>>new operating system?
>>Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear (from
>
>>the review) to be a truly
>>viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>
>>The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think the
>
>>likelihood is of Haiku
>>developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>
>>Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
to
>
>>entice commercial apps - I can't
>>see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next decade.
>>
>>Dedric
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>
>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>
>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>
>>> M$FT,
>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>
>>> plan.
>>>
>>>
>>> TCB
>>
>
Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95892 is a reply to message #95891] Tue, 12 February 2008 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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There is another group that was working on a new OS that is a derivative of
BeOS, still can't think of the name, but some day I will post it.

"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Yes, James, there is a group working on it. It's in my post, which you obviously
>didn't bother to read before responding. It's called Haiku. Here's a haiku
>for you.
>
>James sure loves Apple
>Balance his viewpoints can lack
>Please read carefully
>
>TCB
>
>P.S. There was more to the BeOS deal than you describe here, but let's not
>go down that road again . . .
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when Jobs
>>came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at the
>>time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>>although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>>the name of the OS.
>>
>>So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>>and it can actually run some software.
>>
>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>>
>>>And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source for
>>a
>>>new operating system?
>>>Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear (from
>>
>>>the review) to be a truly
>>>viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>>
>>>The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think the
>>
>>>likelihood is of Haiku
>>>developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>>
>>>Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>>not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
>to
>>
>>>entice commercial apps - I can't
>>>see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next decade.
>>>
>>>Dedric
>>>
>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>>
>>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>>
>>>> M$FT,
>>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>>
>>>> plan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>
>>
>
Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95893 is a reply to message #95889] Tue, 12 February 2008 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Funny you mention that, Jamie. I just bought an EEE. When my 1920x1200 Dell
behemoth arrived I was thinking about buying one of those Amazon book reader
things and decided to save a few hundred bucks, spend a few hours on gutenberg.org
and get a real free software box. Nice little device, though the keys are
TINY.

TCB

Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks for the news, Thad.
>
>I like his idea of running it on an Eee PC.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>James McCloskey wrote:
>> Ahead of it's time.
>>
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1659841654840942756
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when
Jobs
>>> came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at
the
>>> time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>>> although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>>> the name of the OS.
>>>
>>> So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>>> and it can actually run some software.
>>>
>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>> Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>>>
>>>> And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source
for
>>> a
>>>> new operating system?
>>>> Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear
(from
>>>> the review) to be a truly
>>>> viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>>>
>>>> The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think
the
>>>> likelihood is of Haiku
>>>> developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>>>> Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>>> not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
>> to
>>>> entice commercial apps - I can't
>>>> see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next
decade.
>>>>
>>>> Dedric
>>>>
>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>>>>> M$FT,
>>>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>>>>> plan.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> TCB
>>
Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95894 is a reply to message #95892] Tue, 12 February 2008 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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Zeta OS is what I was thinking of. Here is some info on it. Quite a few
OSs have tried to take hold such as Lindows. Haiku looks vary cool, I welcome
it, options are always good. By the way, I wasn't trying to step on your
thread.

http://www.linux.com/feature/43570

http://www.linux.com/feature/54722

http://www.zeta-os.com/cms/custom/lcd/indexe.php

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/zeta-1-0.ars

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>There is another group that was working on a new OS that is a derivative
of
>BeOS, still can't think of the name, but some day I will post it.
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>Yes, James, there is a group working on it. It's in my post, which you
obviously
>>didn't bother to read before responding. It's called Haiku. Here's a haiku
>>for you.
>>
>>James sure loves Apple
>>Balance his viewpoints can lack
>>Please read carefully
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>P.S. There was more to the BeOS deal than you describe here, but let's
not
>>go down that road again . . .
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when Jobs
>>>came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at
the
>>>time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>>>although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>>>the name of the OS.
>>>
>>>So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>>>and it can actually run some software.
>>>
>>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>>>
>>>>And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source
for
>>>a
>>>>new operating system?
>>>>Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear
(from
>>>
>>>>the review) to be a truly
>>>>viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>>>
>>>>The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think
the
>>>
>>>>likelihood is of Haiku
>>>>developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>>>
>>>>Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>>>not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
>>to
>>>
>>>>entice commercial apps - I can't
>>>>see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next
decade.
>>>>
>>>>Dedric
>>>>
>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>>>
>>>>> M$FT,
>>>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>>>
>>>>> plan.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95896 is a reply to message #95893] Tue, 12 February 2008 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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TCB wrote:
> Funny you mention that, Jamie. I just bought an EEE. When my 1920x1200 Dell
> behemoth arrived I was thinking about buying one of those Amazon book reader
> things and decided to save a few hundred bucks, spend a few hours on gutenberg.org
> and get a real free software box. Nice little device, though the keys are
> TINY.

The EEE looks cool. Lots of bang/buck.

I still use a Psion 5mx for an ultra-portable idea box. Very tiny
keyboard. I can touch type on it but not at full speed. The little dude
is way ahead of its time, solid state storage! 16mb internal plus a CF
flash card slot. Takes standard AA batteries that last about a month. I
think it weighs about one pound. Good for typing notes or writing short
articles, and it has a simple audio recorder (lofi - adequate for
singing melodies, doing interviews and dictating ideas).

On the behemoth side, my OSX system currently drives a Dell HD-sized
monitor similar to yours, plus a vertically oriented 19" Samsung monitor
to one side for extra stuff.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com



> TCB
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for the news, Thad.
>>
>> I like his idea of running it on an Eee PC.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> James McCloskey wrote:
>>> Ahead of it's time.
>>>
>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1659841654840942756
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when
> Jobs
>>>> came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at
> the
>>>> time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>>>> although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>>>> the name of the OS.
>>>>
>>>> So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>>>> and it can actually run some software.
>>>>
>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>> Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>>>>
>>>>> And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source
> for
>>>> a
>>>>> new operating system?
>>>>> Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear
> (from
>>>>> the review) to be a truly
>>>>> viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>>>>
>>>>> The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think
> the
>>>>> likelihood is of Haiku
>>>>> developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>>>>> Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>>>> not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
>>> to
>>>>> entice commercial apps - I can't
>>>>> see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next
> decade.
>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>>>>>> M$FT,
>>>>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>>>>>> plan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TCB
>
Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95902 is a reply to message #95886] Tue, 12 February 2008 21:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when Jobs
>came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at the
>time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>the name of the OS.
>
>So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>and it can actually run some software.
>

A little history.

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/zeta-1-0.ars

>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>
>>And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source for
>a
>>new operating system?
>>Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear (from
>
>>the review) to be a truly
>>viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>
>>The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think the
>
>>likelihood is of Haiku
>>developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>
>>Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
to
>
>>entice commercial apps - I can't
>>see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next decade.
>>
>>Dedric
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>
>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>
>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>
>>> M$FT,
>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>
>>> plan.
>>>
>>>
>>> TCB
>>
>
Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95905 is a reply to message #95886] Wed, 13 February 2008 02:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
In my experience, it can actually run all software.

Leopard on a core2 duo,

Hardware Overview:

Machine Name: Mac
Machine Model: P35-DS3L
Processor Name: Intel® Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache (per processor): 4 MB
Processor Features: FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR
PGE MCA CMOV PAT PSE36 CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM SSE3 MON
DSCPL VMX EST TM2 SSSE3 CX16 TPR PDCM
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz
Boot ROM Version: Hack.88Z.int.0sh.061193037 (Award Software
International, Inc.)


Martin Harrington





On 13/2/08 6:06 AM, in article 47b1e014$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:


> So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
> and it can actually run some software.
>
Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95908 is a reply to message #95880] Wed, 13 February 2008 07:58 Go to previous message
tonehouse is currently offline  tonehouse   UNITED STATES
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Hi Thad..I tried to respond to your DADGAD book inquiry,but it bounced
back...I do have some books for $15. Contact me ,and I;ll give you my
address. zmcleod@yahoo.com
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>
>
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>
> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
M$FT,
> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
plan.
>
>
> TCB
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