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- I don't believe this conspiracy theory crap one bit! [message #55891] Fri, 15 July 2005 14:21 Go to next message
Wes is currently offline  Wes   
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>> Derek, I appreciate your writings here. It saying much about where the
>> problems are in my thoughts too.
>>
>> I think we Europeans knows that "being big" allways have made problems
> when
>> trying to be bigger than
>> big:-) Big with weapons in hands are often showing up these weapons as
> their
>> only "brain" when conflicts are coming.
>>
>> Our worlds problems, that started the first worldwar, was already coming
> in
>> 1864, when Bismarck made the big, German nation under the hegemony of
>> Preussen. It was the oldnordic traditions with the God Wotan (or Odin in
>> Norwegian) that then again was showing up in the people. It's showing
>> well
>> in "To an unknown God" from 1864, from the pen of Nietzsche, one of the
>> greatest German philosopher and writers in those times. The feeling of
> being
>> big was setting the standard of human thinking hundred of years back in
> time
>> in those days, maybe thousands. So the next 50 years was showing up with
>> more and more problems, first of all in the southern region of Europe, in
>> Austria and Hungary, where their minorities was suppressed (as the german
>> minority in Austria, after the first worldwars ending, where Hitler was
> born
>> and grown up, knowing the suppression on his own body). So the fatal shot
> in
>> Sarajevo from a Serbian, that killed the Habsburger prince 28. June 1914,
>> was just the drop that started it all in "old" modern times.
>> I'm seeing exactly the same pattern in American behavings in our modern
>> times as it was before the first world war. American sivilians generally
>> don't know what a war is on their own body without their own civil war
> that
>> was overupheating from the south with South Carolina in front, when
> Abraham
>> Lincoln was being President in 1860. The American nation was splitted in
> two
>> in those days with 11 states in the southern part and the rest in the
>> norhern part, as far as I can remember in my readings about America. But
>> I
>> think most of the Americans are knowing these badly story very well.
- Re: I don't believe this conspiracy theory crap one bit! [message #55892 is a reply to message #55891] Fri, 15 July 2005 14:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>> As far as I can understand in readings and seeing, the human feelings
>> haven't changed much since then in north and south, after observe what's
>> happening in the last two president votings.
>> As Dejj wrote about the observations to the indians, I can see a nation
>> of
>> different nations that really have big problems with trusting each other
>> after a long history-background. from their real homecountries that they
>> have travelled from. So maybe it's really understandable with their
>> "shoot
>> first, then ask" menthality that's often showing up. The real American
>> are
>> nearly nonexistencion
- Re: I don't believe this conspiracy theory crap one bit! [message #55894 is a reply to message #55891] Fri, 15 July 2005 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DC is currently offline  DC
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;new" Americans, that's just
>> seems to be German, French, Scandinavian etc. etc.
>> So, as far as I can understand, the only real Americans are the indians.
>>
>> Hmm, I'm thinking too much when doing too much observations, it can be
>> dangerous when thinking so much too much:-) But never mind, I have had my
>> life, but our children and grandchildren shall take over the heredity and
>> environment from us in the coming world. So I mean it's well worth to do
>> something for them too, so maybe they can have real trust to other
>> nations
>> too, for a better future.
>&g
- Re: I don't believe this conspiracy theory crap one bit! [message #55902 is a reply to message #55894] Fri, 15 July 2005 16:43 Go to previous message
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.
> > as far as I can understand but I'm seeing Dejj have learned
> >> to do some observations from them about the "new" Americans, that's
just
> >> seems to be German, French, Scandinavian etc. etc.
> >
> >
> > Erling,
> >
> > The *only* reason tht I posted all this stuff was that I was trying to
> > make
> > two points that I don't think I made.
> >
> > The first one was to try to give some small background of my life that
was
> > relative to the idea that I had a lot invested in my hopes of how I
> > thought
> > the world could be and so did these folks from Europe and all over the
> > world
> > really, though most of them were from Europe and the US.
> >
> > The second point was that I was absolutely floored when these things
were
> > being observed and shown to me by people who were about as familiar with
> > Europeans and Americans as beings from another planet. I didn't like
> > hearing
> > this. It certainly didn't fit my picture of how the world should be and
> > what
> > is really scary about it it that no one but the Indians even recognized
> > what
> > was going on.
> >
> > I'm nothing special. Everyone has their own reasons for believing what
> > they
> > believe. My post was well meant, but in retrospect, it seems sort of
silly
> > to me and I shouldn't have even wasted my time or anyone else's time on
> > this.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Deej
> >
> >
> >
> > "erlilo" <erlilo@onli
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