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| Mixing outside of Paris [message #71886] |
Tue, 29 August 2006 20:43  |
Erick Kent
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I was thinking about getting another piece of software for mixing, =
something that handles midi better and doesn't "flake out" as much using =
DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will anything be lost as far =
as the Paris sound goes?
Any suggestions on what software to get?
Any reason not to go this route?
Also, will the ASIO drivers allow me to track using Paris hardware from =
another app, for punching in and such?
Thanks,
--=20
Erick Kent
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I was thinking about getting =
another=20
piece of software for mixing, something that handles midi better and =
doesn't=20
"flake out" as much using DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will =
anything be lost as far as the Paris sound goes?<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any suggestions on what =
software to=20
get?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any reason not to go this=20
route?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Also, will the ASIO drivers =
allow me to=20
track using Paris hardware from another app, for punching in and=20
such?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Thanks,</DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><BR>-- <BR>Erick=20
Kent</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: Mixing outside of Paris [message #71887 is a reply to message #71886] |
Tue, 29 August 2006 21:04  |
Kim
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I think the general consensus is that most of the Paris sound comes from
mixing within Paris...
Cheers,
Kim.
"Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote:
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>I was thinking about getting another piece of software for mixing, =
>something that handles midi better and doesn't "flake out" as much using
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>DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will anything be lost as far =
>as the Paris sound goes?
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>Any suggestions on what software to get?
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>Any reason not to go this route?
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>Also, will the ASIO drivers allow me to track using Paris hardware from
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>another app, for punching in and such?
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>Thanks,
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>--=20
>Erick Kent
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>doesn't=20
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>anything be lost as far as the Paris sound goes?<BR></FONT></DIV>
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>software to=20
>get?</FONT></DIV>
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><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any reason not to go this=20
>route?</FONT></DIV>
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><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Also, will the ASIO drivers =
>allow me to=20
>track using Paris hardware from another app, for punching in and=20
>such?</FONT></DIV>
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><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Thanks,</DIV></FONT>
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>Kent</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: Mixing outside of Paris [message #71889 is a reply to message #71887] |
Wed, 30 August 2006 01:53 |
rick
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while i won't totally disagree i will say that drums tracked in paris
and mixed in either logic or dp do sound better than those tracked in
either of the two, more noticeably in dp.
On 30 Aug 2006 14:04:15 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>I think the general consensus is that most of the Paris sound comes from
>mixing within Paris...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote:
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>>I was thinking about getting another piece of software for mixing, =
>>something that handles midi better and doesn't "flake out" as much using
>=
>>DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will anything be lost as far =
>>as the Paris sound goes?
>>
>>Any suggestions on what software to get?
>>
>>Any reason not to go this route?
>>
>>Also, will the ASIO drivers allow me to track using Paris hardware from
>=
>>another app, for punching in and such?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>--=20
>>Erick Kent
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>>another=20
>>piece of software for mixing, something that handles midi better and =
>>doesn't=20
>>"flake out" as much using DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will
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>>anything be lost as far as the Paris sound goes?<BR></FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any suggestions on what =
>>software to=20
>>get?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any reason not to go this=20
>>route?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Also, will the ASIO drivers =
>>allow me to=20
>>track using Paris hardware from another app, for punching in and=20
>>such?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Thanks,</DIV></FONT>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><BR>-- <BR>Erick=20
>>Kent</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: Mixing outside of Paris [message #71890 is a reply to message #71889] |
Wed, 30 August 2006 05:14 |
brandon[2]
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I am going the same route, but I was under the impression that the summing
bus
is what gave PARIS its sound. Is that not correct?
I have been concerned about this too.
I will be using Cubase SX for mixing and PARIS for tracking.
--
Brandon
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:qckaf2h7pracvh0k6jrnrl8ettdtgr7sgq@4ax.com...
> while i won't totally disagree i will say that drums tracked in paris
> and mixed in either logic or dp do sound better than those tracked in
> either of the two, more noticeably in dp.
>
> On 30 Aug 2006 14:04:15 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> >
> >
> >I think the general consensus is that most of the Paris sound comes from
> >mixing within Paris...
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Kim.
> >
> >"Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>I was thinking about getting another piece of software for mixing, =
> >>something that handles midi better and doesn't "flake out" as much using
> >=
> >>DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will anything be lost as far =
> >>as the Paris sound goes?
> >>
> >>Any suggestions on what software to get?
> >>
> >>Any reason not to go this route?
> >>
> >>Also, will the ASIO drivers allow me to track using Paris hardware from
> >=
> >>another app, for punching in and such?
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>--=20
> >>Erick Kent
> >>
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> >><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I was thinking about getting
> >=
> >>another=20
> >>piece of software for mixing, something that handles midi better and =
> >>doesn't=20
> >>"flake out" as much using DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will
> >=
> >>
> >>anything be lost as far as the Paris sound goes?<BR></FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any suggestions on what =
> >>software to=20
> >>get?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any reason not to go this=20
> >>route?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Also, will the ASIO drivers =
> >>allow me to=20
> >>track using Paris hardware from another app, for punching in and=20
> >>such?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Thanks,</DIV></FONT>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><BR>-- <BR>Erick=20
> >>Kent</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: Mixing outside of Paris [message #71892 is a reply to message #71886] |
Wed, 30 August 2006 06:29 |
Deej [1]
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Mixing in Paris is what Paris is all about...........and therein lies =
the problem. You can, however mix in Paris and use Cubase SX for =
processing the tracks. All it takes is a few thousand dollars and about =
a year to get the systems configured properly.
;o)
"Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote in message =
news:44f507e4@linux...
I was thinking about getting another piece of software for mixing, =
something that handles midi better and doesn't "flake out" as much using =
DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will anything be lost as far =
as the Paris sound goes?
Any suggestions on what software to get?
Any reason not to go this route?
Also, will the ASIO drivers allow me to track using Paris hardware =
from another app, for punching in and such?
Thanks,
--=20
Erick Kent
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mixing in Paris is what Paris is all=20
about...........and therein lies the problem. You can, however mix in =
Paris and=20
use Cubase SX for processing the tracks. All it takes is a =
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dollars and about a year to get the systems configured =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote in message <A =
href=3D"news:44f507e4@linux">news:44f507e4@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I was thinking about =
getting another=20
piece of software for mixing, something that handles midi better and =
doesn't=20
"flake out" as much using DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, =
will=20
anything be lost as far as the Paris sound goes?<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any suggestions on what =
software to=20
get?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any reason not to go this=20
route?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Also, will the ASIO drivers =
allow me to=20
track using Paris hardware from another app, for punching in and=20
such?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Thanks,</DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><BR>-- <BR>Erick=20
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| Re: Mixing outside of Paris [message #71893 is a reply to message #71892] |
Wed, 30 August 2006 07:12 |
brandon[2]
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So tell me this DJ..
I havent put much thought into trying to figure out how to do this =
but...
How do you group certain channels into a sub stereo channel?
Example: I want to send the Kick and the Bass to a 3rd channel to get =
compressed/limited together
using a native plugin for the processing, but I want to be able to use =
Paris EQ and Trim on the bass
& kick before they are sent over to the 3rd channel for processing.
Also I don't want the individual Kick and Bass tracks heard in the mix, =
just the processed 3rd channel.
thanks,
--=20
Brandon=20
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44f59341@linux...
Mixing in Paris is what Paris is all about...........and therein lies =
the problem. You can, however mix in Paris and use Cubase SX for =
processing the tracks. All it takes is a few thousand dollars and about =
a year to get the systems configured properly.
;o)
"Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote in message =
news:44f507e4@linux...
I was thinking about getting another piece of software for mixing, =
something that handles midi better and doesn't "flake out" as much using =
DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will anything be lost as far =
as the Paris sound goes?
Any suggestions on what software to get?
Any reason not to go this route?
Also, will the ASIO drivers allow me to track using Paris hardware =
from another app, for punching in and such?
Thanks,
--=20
Erick Kent
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>So tell me this DJ..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I havent put much thought into trying to figure =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>How do you group certain channels into a sub =
stereo=20
channel?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Example: I want to send the Kick and the Bass to =
a 3rd=20
channel to get compressed/limited together</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>using a native plugin for the processing, but I =
want to be=20
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channel=20
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tracks=20
heard in the mix, just the processed 3rd channel.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Brandon </DIV>
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about...........and therein lies the problem. You can, however mix in =
Paris=20
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few thousand dollars and about a year to get the systems =
configured=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote in message =
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I was thinking about =
getting another=20
piece of software for mixing, something that handles midi better and =
doesn't=20
"flake out" as much using DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, =
will=20
anything be lost as far as the Paris sound goes?<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any suggestions on what =
software to=20
get?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any reason not to go this =
route?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Also, will the ASIO =
drivers allow me=20
to track using Paris hardware from another app, for punching in and=20
such?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Thanks,</DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><BR>-- <BR>Erick=20
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| Re: Mixing outside of Paris [message #71894 is a reply to message #71893] |
Wed, 30 August 2006 07:14 |
brandon[2]
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Now same scenario, but with stereo processing on the 3rd & 4th channels?
--=20
Brandon
a@a.com> wrote in message news:44f59b63@linux...
So tell me this DJ..
I havent put much thought into trying to figure out how to do this =
but...
How do you group certain channels into a sub stereo channel?
Example: I want to send the Kick and the Bass to a 3rd channel to get =
compressed/limited together
using a native plugin for the processing, but I want to be able to use =
Paris EQ and Trim on the bass
& kick before they are sent over to the 3rd channel for processing.
Also I don't want the individual Kick and Bass tracks heard in the =
mix, just the processed 3rd channel.
thanks,
--=20
Brandon=20
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44f59341@linux...
Mixing in Paris is what Paris is all about...........and therein =
lies the problem. You can, however mix in Paris and use Cubase SX for =
processing the tracks. All it takes is a few thousand dollars and about =
a year to get the systems configured properly.
;o)
"Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote in message =
news:44f507e4@linux...
I was thinking about getting another piece of software for mixing, =
something that handles midi better and doesn't "flake out" as much using =
DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will anything be lost as far =
as the Paris sound goes?
Any suggestions on what software to get?
Any reason not to go this route?
Also, will the ASIO drivers allow me to track using Paris hardware =
from another app, for punching in and such?
Thanks,
--=20
Erick Kent
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Now same scenario, but with stereo processing on =
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<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Brandon</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>So tell me this DJ..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I havent put much thought into trying to =
figure out how=20
to do this but...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>How do you group certain channels into a sub =
stereo=20
channel?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Example: I want to send the Kick and the Bass =
to a 3rd=20
channel to get compressed/limited together</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>using a native plugin for the processing, but =
I want to=20
be able to use Paris EQ and Trim on the bass</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>& kick before they are sent over to the =
3rd channel=20
for processing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Also I don't want the individual Kick and Bass =
tracks=20
heard in the mix, just the processed 3rd channel.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Brandon </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
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wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:44f59341@linux">news:44f59341@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mixing in Paris is what Paris is =
all=20
about...........and therein lies the problem. You can, however mix =
in Paris=20
and use Cubase SX for processing the tracks. All it takes is a=20
few thousand dollars and about a year to get the systems =
configured=20
properly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote in =
message <A=20
href=3D"news:44f507e4@linux">news:44f507e4@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I was thinking about =
getting=20
another piece of software for mixing, something that handles midi =
better=20
and doesn't "flake out" as much using DirectX plugs. If I still =
track in=20
Paris, will anything be lost as far as the Paris sound=20
goes?<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any suggestions on what =
software to=20
get?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any reason not to go =
this=20
route?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Also, will the ASIO =
drivers allow=20
me to track using Paris hardware from another app, for punching in =
and=20
such?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Thanks,</DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><BR>-- <BR>Erick=20
=
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| Re: Mixing outside of Paris [message #71898 is a reply to message #71887] |
Wed, 30 August 2006 08:59 |
Carl Amburn
Messages: 214
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I completely agree.
-Carl
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44f50e3f$1@linux...
>
>
> I think the general consensus is that most of the Paris sound comes from
> mixing within Paris...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >I was thinking about getting another piece of software for mixing, =
> >something that handles midi better and doesn't "flake out" as much using
> =
> >DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will anything be lost as far =
> >as the Paris sound goes?
> >
> >Any suggestions on what software to get?
> >
> >Any reason not to go this route?
> >
> >Also, will the ASIO drivers allow me to track using Paris hardware from
> =
> >another app, for punching in and such?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >--=20
> >Erick Kent
> >
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I was thinking about getting
> =
> >another=20
> >piece of software for mixing, something that handles midi better and =
> >doesn't=20
> >"flake out" as much using DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will
> =
> >
> >anything be lost as far as the Paris sound goes?<BR></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any suggestions on what =
> >software to=20
> >get?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any reason not to go this=20
> >route?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Also, will the ASIO drivers =
> >allow me to=20
> >track using Paris hardware from another app, for punching in and=20
> >such?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Thanks,</DIV></FONT>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><BR>-- <BR>Erick=20
> >Kent</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: Mixing outside of Paris [message #71909 is a reply to message #71886] |
Wed, 30 August 2006 12:15 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
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For me, I like to track & edit in Nuendo, THEN (smile) depending on the music
style, mix in Paris or Pro Tools..With Paris being my favorite. BUT, Pro-Tools
(7.1) has a very nice high-end sound quality that's makes mixing very easy..
All that being said, Nuendo/SX 's Editing & worksflow is in a league of their
own. So, flexible, easy, yet very intuitive and powerful.
Once I've made all my edits and bouces in Nuendo, then it's off to Paris
for mixing...Then to Samplitde for final premastering..
"Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote:
>
>
>I was thinking about getting another piece of software for mixing, =
>something that handles midi better and doesn't "flake out" as much using
=
>DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will anything be lost as far =
>as the Paris sound goes?
>
>Any suggestions on what software to get?
>
>Any reason not to go this route?
>
>Also, will the ASIO drivers allow me to track using Paris hardware from
=
>another app, for punching in and such?
>
>Thanks,
>
>--=20
>Erick Kent
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I was thinking about getting
=
>another=20
>piece of software for mixing, something that handles midi better and =
>doesn't=20
>"flake out" as much using DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will
=
>
>anything be lost as far as the Paris sound goes?<BR></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any suggestions on what =
>software to=20
>get?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any reason not to go this=20
>route?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Also, will the ASIO drivers =
>allow me to=20
>track using Paris hardware from another app, for punching in and=20
>such?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Thanks,</DIV></FONT>
><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><BR>-- <BR>Erick=20
>Kent</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: Mixing outside of Paris [message #71910 is a reply to message #71892] |
Wed, 30 August 2006 12:18 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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Lol!!! Dj, I use a simular work flow method, but I either use OMF into Paris
form Nuendo/SX or Just ue the export..(long way).
However, I hae used my RME (Asio) card to do 8 track ADAT X-fers into Paris
..Works like a charm
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
>
>Mixing in Paris is what Paris is all about...........and therein lies =
>the problem. You can, however mix in Paris and use Cubase SX for =
>processing the tracks. All it takes is a few thousand dollars and about
=
>a year to get the systems configured properly.
>
>;o)
>
> "Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote in message =
>news:44f507e4@linux...
> I was thinking about getting another piece of software for mixing, =
>something that handles midi better and doesn't "flake out" as much using
=
>DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will anything be lost as far =
>as the Paris sound goes?
>
> Any suggestions on what software to get?
>
> Any reason not to go this route?
>
> Also, will the ASIO drivers allow me to track using Paris hardware =
>from another app, for punching in and such?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --=20
> Erick Kent
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mixing in Paris is what Paris is all=20
>about...........and therein lies the problem. You can, however mix in =
>Paris and=20
>use Cubase SX for processing the tracks. All it takes is a =
>few thousand=20
>dollars and about a year to get the systems configured =
>properly.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
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> <DIV>"Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote in message <A =
>
> href=3D"news:44f507e4@linux">news:44f507e4@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I was thinking about =
>getting another=20
> piece of software for mixing, something that handles midi better and =
>doesn't=20
> "flake out" as much using DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, =
>will=20
> anything be lost as far as the Paris sound goes?<BR></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any suggestions on what =
>software to=20
> get?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any reason not to go this=20
> route?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Also, will the ASIO drivers
=
>allow me to=20
> track using Paris hardware from another app, for punching in and=20
> such?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Thanks,</DIV></FONT>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><BR>-- <BR>Erick=20
>Kent</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: Mixing outside of Paris [message #71914 is a reply to message #71909] |
Wed, 30 August 2006 16:21 |
espresso
Messages: 17
Registered: September 2005
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I've just finished mixing a 2hr concert DVD in Nuendo subgrouped out to 16
channels of Paris for summing. The difference between the stereo out of
Nuendo and the stereo sum of Paris is NOT subtle! I've just started my next
mix project - same thing - remember these are 1 or 2 hr files at 24bit - 50
or so of them so you don't want to be converting to .pafs.
I've bought an Echo Layla which has 8 analog out 8 adat out staight into my
MEC. The Paris sound is definitley within its own 'mix' page.
Cheers,
David.
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:44f5e3df$1@linux...
>
> For me, I like to track & edit in Nuendo, THEN (smile) depending on the
music
> style, mix in Paris or Pro Tools..With Paris being my favorite. BUT,
Pro-Tools
> (7.1) has a very nice high-end sound quality that's makes mixing very
easy..
>
> All that being said, Nuendo/SX 's Editing & worksflow is in a league of
their
> own. So, flexible, easy, yet very intuitive and powerful.
> Once I've made all my edits and bouces in Nuendo, then it's off to Paris
> for mixing...Then to Samplitde for final premastering..
>
>
>
> "Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >I was thinking about getting another piece of software for mixing, =
> >something that handles midi better and doesn't "flake out" as much using
> =
> >DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will anything be lost as far =
> >as the Paris sound goes?
> >
> >Any suggestions on what software to get?
> >
> >Any reason not to go this route?
> >
> >Also, will the ASIO drivers allow me to track using Paris hardware from
> =
> >another app, for punching in and such?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >--=20
> >Erick Kent
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I was thinking about getting
> =
> >another=20
> >piece of software for mixing, something that handles midi better and =
> >doesn't=20
> >"flake out" as much using DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will
> =
> >
> >anything be lost as far as the Paris sound goes?<BR></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any suggestions on what =
> >software to=20
> >get?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any reason not to go this=20
> >route?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Also, will the ASIO drivers =
> >allow me to=20
> >track using Paris hardware from another app, for punching in and=20
> >such?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Thanks,</DIV></FONT>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><BR>-- <BR>Erick=20
> >Kent</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: Mixing outside of Paris [message #71916 is a reply to message #71893] |
Fri, 25 August 2006 18:08 |
Deej [1]
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> I want to send the Kick and the Bass to a 3rd channel to get =
compressed/limited together
>using a native plugin for the processing,=20
Ok.......this is done in you native program easily by bussing these =
tracks to the appropriate plugin/bus......
>but I want to be able to use Paris EQ and Trim on the bass
>& kick before they are sent over to the 3rd channel for processing.
you would have to lightpipe these tracks from your native app to an =
empty Paris channel and process them.........
>Also I don't want the individual Kick and Bass tracks heard in the mix, =
just the processed 3rd channel.
...........then return them to a separate bus of the native app via a =
Paris insert, have the bus process the track and then output the bus to =
yet another empty Paris channel.
This sounds so over the top that I don't think it would be worthwhile. =
It would be far easier to use the Paris VST EQ and a 3rd party tape =
emulator plugin in the native app and then just output the bus to a pair =
of Paris channels.
Deej
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:44f59b63@linux...
So tell me this DJ..
I havent put much thought into trying to figure out how to do this =
but...
How do you group certain channels into a sub stereo channel?
Example: I want to send the Kick and the Bass to a 3rd channel to get =
compressed/limited together
using a native plugin for the processing, but I want to be able to use =
Paris EQ and Trim on the bass
& kick before they are sent over to the 3rd channel for processing.
Also I don't want the individual Kick and Bass tracks heard in the =
mix, just the processed 3rd channel.
thanks,
--=20
Brandon=20
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44f59341@linux...
Mixing in Paris is what Paris is all about...........and therein =
lies the problem. You can, however mix in Paris and use Cubase SX for =
processing the tracks. All it takes is a few thousand dollars and about =
a year to get the systems configured properly.
;o)
"Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote in message =
news:44f507e4@linux...
I was thinking about getting another piece of software for mixing, =
something that handles midi better and doesn't "flake out" as much using =
DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will anything be lost as far =
as the Paris sound goes?
Any suggestions on what software to get?
Any reason not to go this route?
Also, will the ASIO drivers allow me to track using Paris hardware =
from another app, for punching in and such?
Thanks,
--=20
Erick Kent
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
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party tape=20
emulator plugin in the native app and then just output the bus to a pair =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Deej</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>So tell me this DJ..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I havent put much thought into trying to =
figure out how=20
to do this but...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>How do you group certain channels into a sub =
stereo=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Example: I want to send the Kick and the Bass =
to a 3rd=20
channel to get compressed/limited together</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>using a native plugin for the processing, but =
I want to=20
be able to use Paris EQ and Trim on the bass</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>& kick before they are sent over to the =
3rd channel=20
for processing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Also I don't want the individual Kick and Bass =
tracks=20
heard in the mix, just the processed 3rd channel.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Brandon </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mixing in Paris is what Paris is =
all=20
about...........and therein lies the problem. You can, however mix =
in Paris=20
and use Cubase SX for processing the tracks. All it takes is a=20
few thousand dollars and about a year to get the systems =
configured=20
properly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote in =
message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I was thinking about =
getting=20
another piece of software for mixing, something that handles midi =
better=20
and doesn't "flake out" as much using DirectX plugs. If I still =
track in=20
Paris, will anything be lost as far as the Paris sound=20
goes?<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any suggestions on what =
software to=20
get?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any reason not to go =
this=20
route?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Also, will the ASIO =
drivers allow=20
me to track using Paris hardware from another app, for punching in =
and=20
such?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Thanks,</DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><BR>-- <BR>Erick=20
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| Re: Mixing outside of Paris [message #71921 is a reply to message #71909] |
Tue, 29 August 2006 19:01 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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Once I've made all my edits and bouces in Nuendo, then it's off to Paris
for mixing...Then to Samplitde for final premastering..
So LaMont,
You're processing the tracks in Nuendo, then once you feel like you've got
what you want, you render those tracks as contiguous files and then import
them to Paris and mix there rather than just streaming them via lightpipe
from the Nuendo DAW to the Paris DAW?
Thanks,
Deej
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:44f5e3df$1@linux...
>
> For me, I like to track & edit in Nuendo, THEN (smile) depending on the
music
> style, mix in Paris or Pro Tools..With Paris being my favorite. BUT,
Pro-Tools
> (7.1) has a very nice high-end sound quality that's makes mixing very
easy..
>
> All that being said, Nuendo/SX 's Editing & worksflow is in a league of
their
> own. So, flexible, easy, yet very intuitive and powerful.
> Once I've made all my edits and bouces in Nuendo, then it's off to Paris
> for mixing...Then to Samplitde for final premastering..
>
>
>
> "Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >I was thinking about getting another piece of software for mixing, =
> >something that handles midi better and doesn't "flake out" as much using
> =
> >DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will anything be lost as far =
> >as the Paris sound goes?
> >
> >Any suggestions on what software to get?
> >
> >Any reason not to go this route?
> >
> >Also, will the ASIO drivers allow me to track using Paris hardware from
> =
> >another app, for punching in and such?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >--=20
> >Erick Kent
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I was thinking about getting
> =
> >another=20
> >piece of software for mixing, something that handles midi better and =
> >doesn't=20
> >"flake out" as much using DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will
> =
> >
> >anything be lost as far as the Paris sound goes?<BR></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any suggestions on what =
> >software to=20
> >get?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any reason not to go this=20
> >route?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Also, will the ASIO drivers =
> >allow me to=20
> >track using Paris hardware from another app, for punching in and=20
> >such?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Thanks,</DIV></FONT>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><BR>-- <BR>Erick=20
> >Kent</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: Mixing outside of Paris [message #71923 is a reply to message #71921] |
Wed, 30 August 2006 19:39 |
Erick Kent
Messages: 18
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Could you expand on lightpipe and Paris? I am not sure I understand.
Thanks,
--
Erick Kent
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44f64365$1@linux...
> Once I've made all my edits and bouces in Nuendo, then it's off to Paris
> for mixing...Then to Samplitde for final premastering..
>
> So LaMont,
>
> You're processing the tracks in Nuendo, then once you feel like you've got
> what you want, you render those tracks as contiguous files and then import
> them to Paris and mix there rather than just streaming them via lightpipe
> from the Nuendo DAW to the Paris DAW?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:44f5e3df$1@linux...
>>
>> For me, I like to track & edit in Nuendo, THEN (smile) depending on the
> music
>> style, mix in Paris or Pro Tools..With Paris being my favorite. BUT,
> Pro-Tools
>> (7.1) has a very nice high-end sound quality that's makes mixing very
> easy..
>>
>> All that being said, Nuendo/SX 's Editing & worksflow is in a league of
> their
>> own. So, flexible, easy, yet very intuitive and powerful.
>> Once I've made all my edits and bouces in Nuendo, then it's off to Paris
>> for mixing...Then to Samplitde for final premastering..
>>
>>
>>
>> "Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >I was thinking about getting another piece of software for mixing, =
>> >something that handles midi better and doesn't "flake out" as much using
>> =
>> >DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will anything be lost as far =
>> >as the Paris sound goes?
>> >
>> >Any suggestions on what software to get?
>> >
>> >Any reason not to go this route?
>> >
>> >Also, will the ASIO drivers allow me to track using Paris hardware from
>> =
>> >another app, for punching in and such?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >--=20
>> >Erick Kent
>> >
>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>> >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=3DGENERATOR>
>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>> ></HEAD>
>> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I was thinking about getting
>> =
>> >another=20
>> >piece of software for mixing, something that handles midi better and =
>> >doesn't=20
>> >"flake out" as much using DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will
>> =
>> >
>> >anything be lost as far as the Paris sound goes?<BR></FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any suggestions on what =
>> >software to=20
>> >get?</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any reason not to go this=20
>> >route?</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Also, will the ASIO drivers =
>> >allow me to=20
>> >track using Paris hardware from another app, for punching in and=20
>> >such?</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Thanks,</DIV></FONT>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><BR>-- <BR>Erick=20
>> >Kent</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>> >
>> >
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| Re: Mixing outside of Paris [message #71925 is a reply to message #71923] |
Wed, 30 August 2006 20:52 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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I'm running a 4 card Paris system with 4 x MECS with each MEC having 2 x
ADAT cards. My native system is running 2 x RE HDSP 9652 cards and an RME
Multiface. Additionally, the native system has 3 pair of coaxial spdif I/O.
these are interfaced with a Lexicon PCM 91, a Quantec Yardstick and a Roland
R-880 so that all tracks in a mix can be processed with these units as
external FX in Cubase, thus eliminating the submix limitations of Paris as
far as external processors are concerned. Additionally, the 8 x analog I/O
of the Multiface are set up as external FX in Cubase SX for processing
tracks with outboard compressors and EQ's on the Cubase inserts.
The Paris system is are clocked to a Lucid GenX-6 and is sending the
regenerated timecode via the sync ports to the RME HDSP 9652's and the
Multiface so that the cubase system is slaved to the Paris transport and
both systems are commonly clocked. The ADAT I/O of both DAWs are
interconnected as follows:
Using RME HDSP 9652 Card #1 bussing to Paris Submix 1 and 2
Cubase CH 1>RME 1 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 1
Cubase CH 2>RME 1 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 2
Cubase CH 3>RME 1 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 3
Cubase CH 4>RME 1 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 4
Cubase CH 5>RME 1 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 5
Cubase CH 6>RME 1 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 6
Cubase CH 7>RME 1 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 7
Cubase CH 8>RME 1 ADAT 1-8 out > Paris CH 8
Cubase CH 9>RME 1 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 9
Cubase CH 10>RME 1 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 10
Cubase CH 11>RME 1 ADAT 2-11 out > Paris CH 11
Cubase CH 12>RME 1 ADAT 2-12 out > Paris CH 12
Cubase CH 13>RME 1 ADAT 2-13 out > Paris CH 13
Cubase CH 14>RME 1 ADAT 2-14 out > Paris CH 14
Cubase ST CH 15L/ Stereo Group L> RME 1 ADAT 2-15 out > Paris CH 15
Cubase ST CH 15R/ Stereo Group R> RME 1 ADAT 2-16 out > Paris CH 16
Paris Submix #2
Cubase CH 16>RME 1 ADAT 3-17 out > Paris CH 1
Cubase CH 17>RME 1 ADAT 3-18 out > Paris CH 2
Cubase CH 18>RME 1 ADAT 3-19 out > Paris CH 3
Cubase CH 19>RME 1 ADAT 3-20 out > Paris CH 4
Cubase CH 20>RME 1 ADAT 3-21 out > Paris CH 5
Cubase CH 21>RME 1 ADAT 3-22 out > Paris CH 6
Cubase CH 22>RME 1 ADAT 3-23 out > Paris CH 7
Cubase CH 23>RME 1 ADAT 3-24 out > Paris CH 8
Using RME HDSP 9652 Card #2 bussing to Paris Submix 2 AND 3
Cubase CH 24>RME 2 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 9
Cubase CH 25>RME 2 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 10
Cubase CH 26>RME 2 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 11
Cubase CH 27>RME 2 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 12
Cubase CH 28>RME 2 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 13
Cubase CH 29>RME 2 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 14
Cubase CH 30>RME 2 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 15
Cubase CH 31>RME 2 ADAT 1-8 out > Paris CH 16
Paris Submix #3
Cubase CH 32>RME 2 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 1
Cubase CH 33>RME 2 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 2
Cubase CH 34>RME 2 ADAT 2-11 out > Paris CH 3
Cubase CH 35>RME 2 ADAT 2-12 out > Paris CH 4
Cubase CH 36>RME 2 ADAT 2-13 out > Paris CH 5
Cubase CH 37>RME 2 ADAT 2-14 out > Paris CH 6
Cubase CH 38>RME 2 ADAT 2-15 out > Paris CH 7
Cubase CH 39>RME 2 ADAT 2-16 out > Paris CH 8
RME HDSP 9652 Card #2/ADAT 17 thru 24 bussing to Paris Submix 3, Aux 1-4
interfaced with ADAT card #2, MEC #3
Cubase Stereo Group 2 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-17 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 1L
Cubase Stereo Group 2 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-18 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 1R
Cubase Stereo Group 3 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-19 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 2L
Cubase Stereo Group 3 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-20 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 2R
Cubase Stereo Group 4 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-21 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 3L
Cubase Stereo Group 4 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-22 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 4R
Cubase Stereo Group 5 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-23 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 4L
Cubase Stereo Group 5 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-24 -out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 4R
RME Multiface ADAT 1 thru 8 bussing to Paris Submix 4, Aux 1-4 interfaced
with ADAT card #1, MEC #4
Cubase Stereo Group 6 L> Multiface ADAT1 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 1L
Cubase Stereo Group 6 R> Multiface ADAT2 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 1R
Cubase Stereo Group 7 L> Multiface ADAT3 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 2L
Cubase Stereo Group 7 R> Multiface ADAT4 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 2R
Cubase Stereo Group 8 L> Multiface ADAT5 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 3L
Cubase Stereo Group 8 R> Multiface ADAT6 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 3R
Cubase Stereo Group 9 L> Multiface ADAT7 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 4L
Cubase Stereo Group 9 R> Multiface ADAT8 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 4R
Using RME HDSP 9652 Card #1 bussing to Paris Submix 1 and 2
Cubase CH 1>RME 1 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 1
Cubase CH 2>RME 1 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 2
Cubase CH 3>RME 1 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 3
Cubase CH 4>RME 1 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 4
Cubase CH 5>RME 1 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 5
Cubase CH 6>RME 1 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 6
Cubase CH 7>RME 1 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 7
Cubase CH 8>RME 1 ADAT 1-8 out > Paris CH 8
Cubase CH 9>RME 1 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 9
Cubase CH 10>RME 1 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 10
Cubase CH 11>RME 1 ADAT 2-11 out > Paris CH 11
Cubase CH 12>RME 1 ADAT 2-12 out > Paris CH 12
Cubase CH 13>RME 1 ADAT 2-13 out > Paris CH 13
Cubase CH 14>RME 1 ADAT 2-14 out > Paris CH 14
Cubase ST CH 15L/ Stereo Group L> RME 1 ADAT 2-15 out > Paris CH 15
Cubase ST CH 15R/ Stereo Group R> RME 1 ADAT 2-16 out > Paris CH 16
Paris Submix #2
Cubase CH 16>RME 1 ADAT 3-17 out > Paris CH 1
Cubase CH 17>RME 1 ADAT 3-18 out > Paris CH 2
Cubase CH 18>RME 1 ADAT 3-19 out > Paris CH 3
Cubase CH 19>RME 1 ADAT 3-20 out > Paris CH 4
Cubase CH 20>RME 1 ADAT 3-21 out > Paris CH 5
Cubase CH 21>RME 1 ADAT 3-22 out > Paris CH 6
Cubase CH 22>RME 1 ADAT 3-23 out > Paris CH 7
Cubase CH 23>RME 1 ADAT 3-24 out > Paris CH 8
Using RME HDSP 9652 Card #2 bussing to Paris Submix 2 AND 3
Cubase CH 24>RME 2 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 9
Cubase CH 25>RME 2 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 10
Cubase CH 26>RME 2 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 11
Cubase CH 27>RME 2 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 12
Cubase CH 28>RME 2 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 13
Cubase CH 29>RME 2 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 14
Cubase CH 30>RME 2 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 15
Cubase CH 31>RME 2 ADAT 1-8 out > Paris CH 16
Paris Submix #3
Cubase CH 32>RME 2 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 1
Cubase CH 33>RME 2 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 2
Cubase CH 34>RME 2 ADAT 2-11 out > Paris CH 3
Cubase CH 35>RME 2 ADAT 2-12 out > Paris CH 4
Cubase CH 36>RME 2 ADAT 2-13 out > Paris CH 5
Cubase CH 37>RME 2 ADAT 2-14 out > Paris CH 6
Cubase CH 38>RME 2 ADAT 2-15 out > Paris CH 7
Cubase CH 39>RME 2 ADAT 2-16 out > Paris CH 8
RME HDSP 9652 Card #2/ADAT 17 thru 24 bussing to Paris Submix 3, Aux 1-4
interfaced with ADAT card #2, MEC #3
Cubase Stereo Group 2 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-17 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 1L
Cubase Stereo Group 2 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-18 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 1R
Cubase Stereo Group 3 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-19 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 2L
Cubase Stereo Group 3 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-20 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 2R
Cubase Stereo Group 4 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-21 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 3L
Cubase Stereo Group 4 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-22 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 4R
Cubase Stereo Group 5 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-23 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 4L
Cubase Stereo Group 5 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-24 -out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 4R
RME Multiface ADAT 1 thru 8 bussing to Paris Submix 4, Aux 1-4 interfaced
with ADAT card #1, MEC #4
Cubase Stereo Group 6 L> Multiface ADAT1 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 1L
Cubase Stereo Group 6 R> Multiface ADAT2 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 1R
Cubase Stereo Group 7 L> Multiface ADAT3 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 2L
Cubase Stereo Group 7 R> Multiface ADAT4 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 2R
Cubase Stereo Group 8 L> Multiface ADAT5 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 3L
Cubase Stereo Group 8 R> Multiface ADAT6 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 3R
Cubase Stereo Group 9 L> Multiface ADAT7 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 4L
Cubase Stereo Group 9 R> Multiface ADAT8 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 4R
The Paris project is set to Live Mix mode. this essentially gives me 38 mono
tracks and a stereo track streaming from Cubase to Paris which is set to
Live Mix mode during mixdown. It also allows me to apply VST FX in cubase SX
over 8 x Paris aux busses.
Now.......aren't you sorry you asked?
;o)
"Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote in message
news:44f64a59@linux...
> Could you expand on lightpipe and Paris? I am not sure I understand.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Erick Kent
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:44f64365$1@linux...
> > Once I've made all my edits and bouces in Nuendo, then it's off to Paris
> > for mixing...Then to Samplitde for final premastering..
> >
> > So LaMont,
> >
> > You're processing the tracks in Nuendo, then once you feel like you've
got
> > what you want, you render those tracks as contiguous files and then
import
> > them to Paris and mix there rather than just streaming them via
lightpipe
> > from the Nuendo DAW to the Paris DAW?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Deej
> >
> > "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:44f5e3df$1@linux...
> >>
> >> For me, I like to track & edit in Nuendo, THEN (smile) depending on the
> > music
> >> style, mix in Paris or Pro Tools..With Paris being my favorite. BUT,
> > Pro-Tools
> >> (7.1) has a very nice high-end sound quality that's makes mixing very
> > easy..
> >>
> >> All that being said, Nuendo/SX 's Editing & worksflow is in a league of
> > their
> >> own. So, flexible, easy, yet very intuitive and powerful.
> >> Once I've made all my edits and bouces in Nuendo, then it's off to
Paris
> >> for mixing...Then to Samplitde for final premastering..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I was thinking about getting another piece of software for mixing, =
> >> >something that handles midi better and doesn't "flake out" as much
using
> >> =
> >> >DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will anything be lost as far
=
> >> >as the Paris sound goes?
> >> >
> >> >Any suggestions on what software to get?
> >> >
> >> >Any reason not to go this route?
> >> >
> >> >Also, will the ASIO drivers allow me to track using Paris hardware
from
> >> =
> >> >another app, for punching in and such?
> >> >
> >> >Thanks,
> >> >
> >> >--=20
> >> >Erick Kent
> >> >
> >> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> >> ><HTML><HEAD>
> >> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> >> >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> >> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=3DGENERATOR>
> >> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> >> ></HEAD>
> >> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I was thinking about
getting
> >> =
> >> >another=20
> >> >piece of software for mixing, something that handles midi better and =
> >> >doesn't=20
> >> >"flake out" as much using DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris,
will
> >> =
> >> >
> >> >anything be lost as far as the Paris sound goes?<BR></FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any suggestions on what =
> >> >software to=20
> >> >get?</FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any reason not to go
this=20
> >> >route?</FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Also, will the ASIO drivers
=
> >> >allow me to=20
> >> >track using Paris hardware from another app, for punching in and=20
> >> >such?</FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Thanks,</DIV></FONT>
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><BR>-- <BR>Erick=20
> >> >Kent</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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| Re: Mixing outside of Paris [message #71926 is a reply to message #71925] |
Wed, 30 August 2006 20:55 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Senior Member |
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Well........it looks like I posted the routing matrix in there twice, so
just eliminate the redundancy and you have it.
Deej
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44f65d7a@linux...
> I'm running a 4 card Paris system with 4 x MECS with each MEC having 2 x
> ADAT cards. My native system is running 2 x RE HDSP 9652 cards and an RME
> Multiface. Additionally, the native system has 3 pair of coaxial spdif
I/O.
> these are interfaced with a Lexicon PCM 91, a Quantec Yardstick and a
Roland
> R-880 so that all tracks in a mix can be processed with these units as
> external FX in Cubase, thus eliminating the submix limitations of Paris as
> far as external processors are concerned. Additionally, the 8 x analog I/O
> of the Multiface are set up as external FX in Cubase SX for processing
> tracks with outboard compressors and EQ's on the Cubase inserts.
>
> The Paris system is are clocked to a Lucid GenX-6 and is sending the
> regenerated timecode via the sync ports to the RME HDSP 9652's and the
> Multiface so that the cubase system is slaved to the Paris transport and
> both systems are commonly clocked. The ADAT I/O of both DAWs are
> interconnected as follows:
>
> Using RME HDSP 9652 Card #1 bussing to Paris Submix 1 and 2
>
> Cubase CH 1>RME 1 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 1
> Cubase CH 2>RME 1 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 2
> Cubase CH 3>RME 1 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 3
> Cubase CH 4>RME 1 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 4
> Cubase CH 5>RME 1 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 5
> Cubase CH 6>RME 1 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 6
> Cubase CH 7>RME 1 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 7
> Cubase CH 8>RME 1 ADAT 1-8 out > Paris CH 8
> Cubase CH 9>RME 1 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 9
> Cubase CH 10>RME 1 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 10
> Cubase CH 11>RME 1 ADAT 2-11 out > Paris CH 11
> Cubase CH 12>RME 1 ADAT 2-12 out > Paris CH 12
> Cubase CH 13>RME 1 ADAT 2-13 out > Paris CH 13
> Cubase CH 14>RME 1 ADAT 2-14 out > Paris CH 14
> Cubase ST CH 15L/ Stereo Group L> RME 1 ADAT 2-15 out > Paris CH 15
> Cubase ST CH 15R/ Stereo Group R> RME 1 ADAT 2-16 out > Paris CH 16
>
> Paris Submix #2
>
> Cubase CH 16>RME 1 ADAT 3-17 out > Paris CH 1
> Cubase CH 17>RME 1 ADAT 3-18 out > Paris CH 2
> Cubase CH 18>RME 1 ADAT 3-19 out > Paris CH 3
> Cubase CH 19>RME 1 ADAT 3-20 out > Paris CH 4
> Cubase CH 20>RME 1 ADAT 3-21 out > Paris CH 5
> Cubase CH 21>RME 1 ADAT 3-22 out > Paris CH 6
> Cubase CH 22>RME 1 ADAT 3-23 out > Paris CH 7
> Cubase CH 23>RME 1 ADAT 3-24 out > Paris CH 8
>
> Using RME HDSP 9652 Card #2 bussing to Paris Submix 2 AND 3
>
> Cubase CH 24>RME 2 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 9
> Cubase CH 25>RME 2 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 10
> Cubase CH 26>RME 2 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 11
> Cubase CH 27>RME 2 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 12
> Cubase CH 28>RME 2 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 13
> Cubase CH 29>RME 2 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 14
> Cubase CH 30>RME 2 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 15
> Cubase CH 31>RME 2 ADAT 1-8 out > Paris CH 16
>
> Paris Submix #3
>
> Cubase CH 32>RME 2 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 1
> Cubase CH 33>RME 2 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 2
> Cubase CH 34>RME 2 ADAT 2-11 out > Paris CH 3
> Cubase CH 35>RME 2 ADAT 2-12 out > Paris CH 4
> Cubase CH 36>RME 2 ADAT 2-13 out > Paris CH 5
> Cubase CH 37>RME 2 ADAT 2-14 out > Paris CH 6
> Cubase CH 38>RME 2 ADAT 2-15 out > Paris CH 7
> Cubase CH 39>RME 2 ADAT 2-16 out > Paris CH 8
>
> RME HDSP 9652 Card #2/ADAT 17 thru 24 bussing to Paris Submix 3, Aux 1-4
> interfaced with ADAT card #2, MEC #3
>
> Cubase Stereo Group 2 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-17 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 1L
> Cubase Stereo Group 2 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-18 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 1R
> Cubase Stereo Group 3 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-19 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 2L
> Cubase Stereo Group 3 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-20 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 2R
> Cubase Stereo Group 4 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-21 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 3L
> Cubase Stereo Group 4 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-22 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 4R
> Cubase Stereo Group 5 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-23 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 4L
> Cubase Stereo Group 5 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-24 -out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 4R
>
> RME Multiface ADAT 1 thru 8 bussing to Paris Submix 4, Aux 1-4 interfaced
> with ADAT card #1, MEC #4
>
> Cubase Stereo Group 6 L> Multiface ADAT1 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 1L
> Cubase Stereo Group 6 R> Multiface ADAT2 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 1R
> Cubase Stereo Group 7 L> Multiface ADAT3 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 2L
> Cubase Stereo Group 7 R> Multiface ADAT4 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 2R
> Cubase Stereo Group 8 L> Multiface ADAT5 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 3L
> Cubase Stereo Group 8 R> Multiface ADAT6 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 3R
> Cubase Stereo Group 9 L> Multiface ADAT7 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 4L
> Cubase Stereo Group 9 R> Multiface ADAT8 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 4R
>
> Using RME HDSP 9652 Card #1 bussing to Paris Submix 1 and 2
>
> Cubase CH 1>RME 1 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 1
> Cubase CH 2>RME 1 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 2
> Cubase CH 3>RME 1 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 3
> Cubase CH 4>RME 1 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 4
> Cubase CH 5>RME 1 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 5
> Cubase CH 6>RME 1 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 6
> Cubase CH 7>RME 1 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 7
> Cubase CH 8>RME 1 ADAT 1-8 out > Paris CH 8
> Cubase CH 9>RME 1 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 9
> Cubase CH 10>RME 1 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 10
> Cubase CH 11>RME 1 ADAT 2-11 out > Paris CH 11
> Cubase CH 12>RME 1 ADAT 2-12 out > Paris CH 12
> Cubase CH 13>RME 1 ADAT 2-13 out > Paris CH 13
> Cubase CH 14>RME 1 ADAT 2-14 out > Paris CH 14
> Cubase ST CH 15L/ Stereo Group L> RME 1 ADAT 2-15 out > Paris CH 15
> Cubase ST CH 15R/ Stereo Group R> RME 1 ADAT 2-16 out > Paris CH 16
>
> Paris Submix #2
>
> Cubase CH 16>RME 1 ADAT 3-17 out > Paris CH 1
> Cubase CH 17>RME 1 ADAT 3-18 out > Paris CH 2
> Cubase CH 18>RME 1 ADAT 3-19 out > Paris CH 3
> Cubase CH 19>RME 1 ADAT 3-20 out > Paris CH 4
> Cubase CH 20>RME 1 ADAT 3-21 out > Paris CH 5
> Cubase CH 21>RME 1 ADAT 3-22 out > Paris CH 6
> Cubase CH 22>RME 1 ADAT 3-23 out > Paris CH 7
> Cubase CH 23>RME 1 ADAT 3-24 out > Paris CH 8
>
> Using RME HDSP 9652 Card #2 bussing to Paris Submix 2 AND 3
>
> Cubase CH 24>RME 2 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 9
> Cubase CH 25>RME 2 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 10
> Cubase CH 26>RME 2 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 11
> Cubase CH 27>RME 2 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 12
> Cubase CH 28>RME 2 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 13
> Cubase CH 29>RME 2 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 14
> Cubase CH 30>RME 2 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 15
> Cubase CH 31>RME 2 ADAT 1-8 out > Paris CH 16
>
> Paris Submix #3
>
> Cubase CH 32>RME 2 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 1
> Cubase CH 33>RME 2 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 2
> Cubase CH 34>RME 2 ADAT 2-11 out > Paris CH 3
> Cubase CH 35>RME 2 ADAT 2-12 out > Paris CH 4
> Cubase CH 36>RME 2 ADAT 2-13 out > Paris CH 5
> Cubase CH 37>RME 2 ADAT 2-14 out > Paris CH 6
> Cubase CH 38>RME 2 ADAT 2-15 out > Paris CH 7
> Cubase CH 39>RME 2 ADAT 2-16 out > Paris CH 8
>
> RME HDSP 9652 Card #2/ADAT 17 thru 24 bussing to Paris Submix 3, Aux 1-4
> interfaced with ADAT card #2, MEC #3
>
> Cubase Stereo Group 2 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-17 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 1L
> Cubase Stereo Group 2 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-18 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 1R
> Cubase Stereo Group 3 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-19 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 2L
> Cubase Stereo Group 3 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-20 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 2R
> Cubase Stereo Group 4 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-21 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 3L
> Cubase Stereo Group 4 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-22 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 4R
> Cubase Stereo Group 5 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-23 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 4L
> Cubase Stereo Group 5 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-24 -out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 4R
>
> RME Multiface ADAT 1 thru 8 bussing to Paris Submix 4, Aux 1-4 interfaced
> with ADAT card #1, MEC #4
>
> Cubase Stereo Group 6 L> Multiface ADAT1 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 1L
> Cubase Stereo Group 6 R> Multiface ADAT2 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 1R
> Cubase Stereo Group 7 L> Multiface ADAT3 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 2L
> Cubase Stereo Group 7 R> Multiface ADAT4 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 2R
> Cubase Stereo Group 8 L> Multiface ADAT5 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 3L
> Cubase Stereo Group 8 R> Multiface ADAT6 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 3R
> Cubase Stereo Group 9 L> Multiface ADAT7 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 4L
> Cubase Stereo Group 9 R> Multiface ADAT8 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 4R
>
> The Paris project is set to Live Mix mode. this essentially gives me 38
mono
> tracks and a stereo track streaming from Cubase to Paris which is set to
> Live Mix mode during mixdown. It also allows me to apply VST FX in cubase
SX
> over 8 x Paris aux busses.
>
> Now.......aren't you sorry you asked?
>
> ;o)
>
>
> "Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote in message
> news:44f64a59@linux...
> > Could you expand on lightpipe and Paris? I am not sure I understand.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Erick Kent
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:44f64365$1@linux...
> > > Once I've made all my edits and bouces in Nuendo, then it's off to
Paris
> > > for mixing...Then to Samplitde for final premastering..
> > >
> > > So LaMont,
> > >
> > > You're processing the tracks in Nuendo, then once you feel like you've
> got
> > > what you want, you render those tracks as contiguous files and then
> import
> > > them to Paris and mix there rather than just streaming them via
> lightpipe
> > > from the Nuendo DAW to the Paris DAW?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Deej
> > >
> > > "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> news:44f5e3df$1@linux...
> > >>
> > >> For me, I like to track & edit in Nuendo, THEN (smile) depending on
the
> > > music
> > >> style, mix in Paris or Pro Tools..With Paris being my favorite. BUT,
> > > Pro-Tools
> > >> (7.1) has a very nice high-end sound quality that's makes mixing very
> > > easy..
> > >>
> > >> All that being said, Nuendo/SX 's Editing & worksflow is in a league
of
> > > their
> > >> own. So, flexible, easy, yet very intuitive and powerful.
> > >> Once I've made all my edits and bouces in Nuendo, then it's off to
> Paris
> > >> for mixing...Then to Samplitde for final premastering..
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >I was thinking about getting another piece of software for mixing, =
> > >> >something that handles midi better and doesn't "flake out" as much
> using
> > >> =
> > >> >DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will anything be lost as
far
> =
> > >> >as the Paris sound goes?
> > >> >
> > >> >Any suggestions on what software to get?
> > >> >
> > >> >Any reason not to go this route?
> > >> >
> > >> >Also, will the ASIO drivers allow me to track using Paris hardware
> from
> > >> =
> > >> >another app, for punching in and such?
> > >> >
> > >> >Thanks,
> > >> >
> > >> >--=20
> > >> >Erick Kent
> > >> >
> > >> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
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> > >> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> > >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I was thinking about
> getting
> > >> =
> > >> >another=20
> > >> >piece of software for mixing, something that handles midi better and
=
> > >> >doesn't=20
> > >> >"flake out" as much using DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris,
> will
> > >> =
> > >> >
> > >> >anything be lost as far as the Paris sound goes?<BR></FONT></DIV>
> > >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any suggestions on what =
> > >> >software to=20
> > >> >get?</FONT></DIV>
> > >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any reason not to go
> this=20
> > >> >route?</FONT></DIV>
> > >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Also, will the ASIO
drivers
> =
> > >> >allow me to=20
> > >> >track using Paris hardware from another app, for punching in and=20
> > >> >such?</FONT></DIV>
> > >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Thanks,</DIV></FONT>
> > >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><BR>-- <BR>Erick=20
> > >> >Kent</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
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Thanks DJ, but I wasn't clear...I meant how to do this using PARIS only.
--=20
Brandon Goodwin
Process Engineering
Pentech Assembly
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44f636f8@linux...
> I want to send the Kick and the Bass to a 3rd channel to get =
compressed/limited together=20
>using a native plugin for the processing,=20
Ok.......this is done in you native program easily by bussing these =
tracks to the appropriate plugin/bus......
>but I want to be able to use Paris EQ and Trim on the bass
>& kick before they are sent over to the 3rd channel for processing.
you would have to lightpipe these tracks from your native app to an =
empty Paris channel and process them.........
>Also I don't want the individual Kick and Bass tracks heard in the =
mix, just the processed 3rd channel.
..........then return them to a separate bus of the native app via a =
Paris insert, have the bus process the track and then output the bus to =
yet another empty Paris channel.
This sounds so over the top that I don't think it would be worthwhile. =
It would be far easier to use the Paris VST EQ and a 3rd party tape =
emulator plugin in the native app and then just output the bus to a pair =
of Paris channels.
Deej
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:44f59b63@linux...
So tell me this DJ..
I havent put much thought into trying to figure out how to do this =
but...
How do you group certain channels into a sub stereo channel?
Example: I want to send the Kick and the Bass to a 3rd channel to =
get compressed/limited together
using a native plugin for the processing, but I want to be able to =
use Paris EQ and Trim on the bass
& kick before they are sent over to the 3rd channel for processing.
Also I don't want the individual Kick and Bass tracks heard in the =
mix, just the processed 3rd channel.
thanks,
--=20
Brandon=20
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44f59341@linux...
Mixing in Paris is what Paris is all about...........and therein =
lies the problem. You can, however mix in Paris and use Cubase SX for =
processing the tracks. All it takes is a few thousand dollars and about =
a year to get the systems configured properly.
;o)
"Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote in message =
news:44f507e4@linux...
I was thinking about getting another piece of software for =
mixing, something that handles midi better and doesn't "flake out" as =
much using DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will anything be =
lost as far as the Paris sound goes?
Any suggestions on what software to get?
Any reason not to go this route?
Also, will the ASIO drivers allow me to track using Paris =
hardware from another app, for punching in and such?
Thanks,
--=20
Erick Kent
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Thanks DJ, but I wasn't clear...I meant how to =
do this=20
using PARIS only.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Brandon Goodwin</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Process Engineering<BR>Pentech Assembly</DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
_@animas.net</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:44f636f8@linux">news:44f636f8@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>> I want to send the Kick and the Bass =
to a 3rd=20
channel to get compressed/limited together</FONT>=20
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>>using a native plugin for the processing,=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Ok.......this is done in you native program =
easily by=20
bussing these tracks to the appropriate plugin/bus......</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>>but I want to be able to use Paris EQ and =
Trim on=20
the bass</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>>& kick before they are sent over to =
the 3rd=20
channel for processing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>you would have to lightpipe these tracks from =
your=20
native app to an empty Paris channel and process =
them.........</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>>Also I don't want the individual Kick and =
Bass=20
tracks heard in the mix, just the processed 3rd channel.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>..........then return them to a separate bus =
of the=20
native app via a Paris insert, have the bus process the track and then =
output=20
the bus to yet another empty Paris channel.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>This sounds so over the top that I don't think =
it would=20
be worthwhile. It would be far easier to use the Paris VST EQ and a =
3rd party=20
tape emulator plugin in the native app and then just output the bus to =
a pair=20
of Paris channels.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Deej</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>"Brandon" <<A href=3D"mailto:a@a.com">a@a.com</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:44f59b63@linux">news:44f59b63@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>So tell me this DJ..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I havent put much thought into trying to =
figure out=20
how to do this but...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>How do you group certain channels into a sub =
stereo=20
channel?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Example: I want to send the Kick and the =
Bass to a 3rd=20
channel to get compressed/limited together</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>using a native plugin for the processing, =
but I want=20
to be able to use Paris EQ and Trim on the bass</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>& kick before they are sent over to the =
3rd=20
channel for processing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Also I don't want the individual Kick and =
Bass tracks=20
heard in the mix, just the processed 3rd channel.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Brandon </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
_@animas.net</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:44f59341@linux">news:44f59341@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mixing in Paris is what Paris is =
all=20
about...........and therein lies the problem. You can, however mix =
in=20
Paris and use Cubase SX for processing the tracks. All it takes is =
a=20
few thousand dollars and about a year to get the systems =
configured=20
properly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote in =
message <A=20
href=3D"news:44f507e4@linux">news:44f507e4@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I was thinking about =
getting=20
another piece of software for mixing, something that handles =
midi better=20
and doesn't "flake out" as much using DirectX plugs. If I still =
track in=20
Paris, will anything be lost as far as the Paris sound=20
goes?<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any suggestions on =
what software=20
to get?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Thanks,</DIV></FONT>
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| Re: Mixing outside of Paris [message #71936 is a reply to message #71923] |
Thu, 31 August 2006 12:55 |
gene Lennon[3]
Messages: 40
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"Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote:
>Could you expand on lightpipe and Paris? I am not sure I understand.
>
>Thanks,
>
>--
>Erick Kent
Erick,
DJ is just trying to scare you. You can use Paris as a Virtual Mixing Console
and get the benefits of its summing bus sound. In this kind of setup you
mix from a second computer or Hard-Disk recorder and output individual channels
or stems to your Paris computer. You can go into Paris using analog inputs
or digital inputs.
Using several ADAT cards seems to be the most effective method, but you do
need to be careful about having a solid Master Clock.
If you run Nuendo, Pro Tools, Cubase, Logic, Performer, etc on your other
computer, you will get the benefits of Automatic Delay Compensation, more
advanced bussing options, working MIDI, moving fader automation, and all
the other features of a 2006 DAW plus the Paris sound.
Gene
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| Re: Mixing outside of Paris [message #71938 is a reply to message #71936] |
Thu, 31 August 2006 14:32 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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> DJ is just trying to scare you.
Well heck Gene. He asked. I can't help it if I live in a scary world here.
;o)
"gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSP.com> wrote in message news:44f73ecb$1@linux...
>
> "Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote:
> >Could you expand on lightpipe and Paris? I am not sure I understand.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >--
> >Erick Kent
>
> Erick,
> DJ is just trying to scare you. You can use Paris as a Virtual Mixing
Console
> and get the benefits of its summing bus sound. In this kind of setup you
> mix from a second computer or Hard-Disk recorder and output individual
channels
> or stems to your Paris computer. You can go into Paris using analog inputs
> or digital inputs.
> Using several ADAT cards seems to be the most effective method, but you do
> need to be careful about having a solid Master Clock.
> If you run Nuendo, Pro Tools, Cubase, Logic, Performer, etc on your other
> computer, you will get the benefits of Automatic Delay Compensation, more
> advanced bussing options, working MIDI, moving fader automation, and all
> the other features of a 2006 DAW plus the Paris sound.
> Gene
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| Re: Mixing outside of Paris [message #72020 is a reply to message #71925] |
Sun, 03 September 2006 21:14 |
Erick Kent
Messages: 18
Registered: May 2006
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Then I guess I have to ask the opposite question. What if I track in another
app, say Cubase, and then import all my files over and mix in Paris? How bad
will it sound using a SB Live for tracking? or is there a way to track in
another DAW using the Paris hardware?
--
Erick Kent
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44f65d7a@linux...
> I'm running a 4 card Paris system with 4 x MECS with each MEC having 2 x
> ADAT cards. My native system is running 2 x RE HDSP 9652 cards and an RME
> Multiface. Additionally, the native system has 3 pair of coaxial spdif
> I/O.
> these are interfaced with a Lexicon PCM 91, a Quantec Yardstick and a
> Roland
> R-880 so that all tracks in a mix can be processed with these units as
> external FX in Cubase, thus eliminating the submix limitations of Paris as
> far as external processors are concerned. Additionally, the 8 x analog I/O
> of the Multiface are set up as external FX in Cubase SX for processing
> tracks with outboard compressors and EQ's on the Cubase inserts.
>
> The Paris system is are clocked to a Lucid GenX-6 and is sending the
> regenerated timecode via the sync ports to the RME HDSP 9652's and the
> Multiface so that the cubase system is slaved to the Paris transport and
> both systems are commonly clocked. The ADAT I/O of both DAWs are
> interconnected as follows:
>
> Using RME HDSP 9652 Card #1 bussing to Paris Submix 1 and 2
>
> Cubase CH 1>RME 1 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 1
> Cubase CH 2>RME 1 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 2
> Cubase CH 3>RME 1 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 3
> Cubase CH 4>RME 1 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 4
> Cubase CH 5>RME 1 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 5
> Cubase CH 6>RME 1 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 6
> Cubase CH 7>RME 1 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 7
> Cubase CH 8>RME 1 ADAT 1-8 out > Paris CH 8
> Cubase CH 9>RME 1 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 9
> Cubase CH 10>RME 1 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 10
> Cubase CH 11>RME 1 ADAT 2-11 out > Paris CH 11
> Cubase CH 12>RME 1 ADAT 2-12 out > Paris CH 12
> Cubase CH 13>RME 1 ADAT 2-13 out > Paris CH 13
> Cubase CH 14>RME 1 ADAT 2-14 out > Paris CH 14
> Cubase ST CH 15L/ Stereo Group L> RME 1 ADAT 2-15 out > Paris CH 15
> Cubase ST CH 15R/ Stereo Group R> RME 1 ADAT 2-16 out > Paris CH 16
>
> Paris Submix #2
>
> Cubase CH 16>RME 1 ADAT 3-17 out > Paris CH 1
> Cubase CH 17>RME 1 ADAT 3-18 out > Paris CH 2
> Cubase CH 18>RME 1 ADAT 3-19 out > Paris CH 3
> Cubase CH 19>RME 1 ADAT 3-20 out > Paris CH 4
> Cubase CH 20>RME 1 ADAT 3-21 out > Paris CH 5
> Cubase CH 21>RME 1 ADAT 3-22 out > Paris CH 6
> Cubase CH 22>RME 1 ADAT 3-23 out > Paris CH 7
> Cubase CH 23>RME 1 ADAT 3-24 out > Paris CH 8
>
> Using RME HDSP 9652 Card #2 bussing to Paris Submix 2 AND 3
>
> Cubase CH 24>RME 2 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 9
> Cubase CH 25>RME 2 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 10
> Cubase CH 26>RME 2 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 11
> Cubase CH 27>RME 2 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 12
> Cubase CH 28>RME 2 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 13
> Cubase CH 29>RME 2 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 14
> Cubase CH 30>RME 2 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 15
> Cubase CH 31>RME 2 ADAT 1-8 out > Paris CH 16
>
> Paris Submix #3
>
> Cubase CH 32>RME 2 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 1
> Cubase CH 33>RME 2 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 2
> Cubase CH 34>RME 2 ADAT 2-11 out > Paris CH 3
> Cubase CH 35>RME 2 ADAT 2-12 out > Paris CH 4
> Cubase CH 36>RME 2 ADAT 2-13 out > Paris CH 5
> Cubase CH 37>RME 2 ADAT 2-14 out > Paris CH 6
> Cubase CH 38>RME 2 ADAT 2-15 out > Paris CH 7
> Cubase CH 39>RME 2 ADAT 2-16 out > Paris CH 8
>
> RME HDSP 9652 Card #2/ADAT 17 thru 24 bussing to Paris Submix 3, Aux 1-4
> interfaced with ADAT card #2, MEC #3
>
> Cubase Stereo Group 2 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-17 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 1L
> Cubase Stereo Group 2 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-18 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 1R
> Cubase Stereo Group 3 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-19 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 2L
> Cubase Stereo Group 3 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-20 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 2R
> Cubase Stereo Group 4 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-21 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 3L
> Cubase Stereo Group 4 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-22 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 4R
> Cubase Stereo Group 5 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-23 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 4L
> Cubase Stereo Group 5 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-24 -out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 4R
>
> RME Multiface ADAT 1 thru 8 bussing to Paris Submix 4, Aux 1-4 interfaced
> with ADAT card #1, MEC #4
>
> Cubase Stereo Group 6 L> Multiface ADAT1 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 1L
> Cubase Stereo Group 6 R> Multiface ADAT2 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 1R
> Cubase Stereo Group 7 L> Multiface ADAT3 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 2L
> Cubase Stereo Group 7 R> Multiface ADAT4 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 2R
> Cubase Stereo Group 8 L> Multiface ADAT5 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 3L
> Cubase Stereo Group 8 R> Multiface ADAT6 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 3R
> Cubase Stereo Group 9 L> Multiface ADAT7 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 4L
> Cubase Stereo Group 9 R> Multiface ADAT8 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 4R
>
> Using RME HDSP 9652 Card #1 bussing to Paris Submix 1 and 2
>
> Cubase CH 1>RME 1 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 1
> Cubase CH 2>RME 1 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 2
> Cubase CH 3>RME 1 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 3
> Cubase CH 4>RME 1 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 4
> Cubase CH 5>RME 1 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 5
> Cubase CH 6>RME 1 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 6
> Cubase CH 7>RME 1 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 7
> Cubase CH 8>RME 1 ADAT 1-8 out > Paris CH 8
> Cubase CH 9>RME 1 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 9
> Cubase CH 10>RME 1 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 10
> Cubase CH 11>RME 1 ADAT 2-11 out > Paris CH 11
> Cubase CH 12>RME 1 ADAT 2-12 out > Paris CH 12
> Cubase CH 13>RME 1 ADAT 2-13 out > Paris CH 13
> Cubase CH 14>RME 1 ADAT 2-14 out > Paris CH 14
> Cubase ST CH 15L/ Stereo Group L> RME 1 ADAT 2-15 out > Paris CH 15
> Cubase ST CH 15R/ Stereo Group R> RME 1 ADAT 2-16 out > Paris CH 16
>
> Paris Submix #2
>
> Cubase CH 16>RME 1 ADAT 3-17 out > Paris CH 1
> Cubase CH 17>RME 1 ADAT 3-18 out > Paris CH 2
> Cubase CH 18>RME 1 ADAT 3-19 out > Paris CH 3
> Cubase CH 19>RME 1 ADAT 3-20 out > Paris CH 4
> Cubase CH 20>RME 1 ADAT 3-21 out > Paris CH 5
> Cubase CH 21>RME 1 ADAT 3-22 out > Paris CH 6
> Cubase CH 22>RME 1 ADAT 3-23 out > Paris CH 7
> Cubase CH 23>RME 1 ADAT 3-24 out > Paris CH 8
>
> Using RME HDSP 9652 Card #2 bussing to Paris Submix 2 AND 3
>
> Cubase CH 24>RME 2 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 9
> Cubase CH 25>RME 2 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 10
> Cubase CH 26>RME 2 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 11
> Cubase CH 27>RME 2 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 12
> Cubase CH 28>RME 2 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 13
> Cubase CH 29>RME 2 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 14
> Cubase CH 30>RME 2 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 15
> Cubase CH 31>RME 2 ADAT 1-8 out > Paris CH 16
>
> Paris Submix #3
>
> Cubase CH 32>RME 2 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 1
> Cubase CH 33>RME 2 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 2
> Cubase CH 34>RME 2 ADAT 2-11 out > Paris CH 3
> Cubase CH 35>RME 2 ADAT 2-12 out > Paris CH 4
> Cubase CH 36>RME 2 ADAT 2-13 out > Paris CH 5
> Cubase CH 37>RME 2 ADAT 2-14 out > Paris CH 6
> Cubase CH 38>RME 2 ADAT 2-15 out > Paris CH 7
> Cubase CH 39>RME 2 ADAT 2-16 out > Paris CH 8
>
> RME HDSP 9652 Card #2/ADAT 17 thru 24 bussing to Paris Submix 3, Aux 1-4
> interfaced with ADAT card #2, MEC #3
>
> Cubase Stereo Group 2 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-17 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 1L
> Cubase Stereo Group 2 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-18 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 1R
> Cubase Stereo Group 3 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-19 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 2L
> Cubase Stereo Group 3 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-20 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 2R
> Cubase Stereo Group 4 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-21 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 3L
> Cubase Stereo Group 4 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-22 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 4R
> Cubase Stereo Group 5 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-23 out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 4L
> Cubase Stereo Group 5 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-24 -out > Paris Submix 3 Aux 4R
>
> RME Multiface ADAT 1 thru 8 bussing to Paris Submix 4, Aux 1-4 interfaced
> with ADAT card #1, MEC #4
>
> Cubase Stereo Group 6 L> Multiface ADAT1 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 1L
> Cubase Stereo Group 6 R> Multiface ADAT2 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 1R
> Cubase Stereo Group 7 L> Multiface ADAT3 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 2L
> Cubase Stereo Group 7 R> Multiface ADAT4 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 2R
> Cubase Stereo Group 8 L> Multiface ADAT5 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 3L
> Cubase Stereo Group 8 R> Multiface ADAT6 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 3R
> Cubase Stereo Group 9 L> Multiface ADAT7 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 4L
> Cubase Stereo Group 9 R> Multiface ADAT8 out > Paris Submix 4 Aux 4R
>
> The Paris project is set to Live Mix mode. this essentially gives me 38
> mono
> tracks and a stereo track streaming from Cubase to Paris which is set to
> Live Mix mode during mixdown. It also allows me to apply VST FX in cubase
> SX
> over 8 x Paris aux busses.
>
> Now.......aren't you sorry you asked?
>
> ;o)
>
>
> "Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote in message
> news:44f64a59@linux...
>> Could you expand on lightpipe and Paris? I am not sure I understand.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Erick Kent
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> news:44f64365$1@linux...
>> > Once I've made all my edits and bouces in Nuendo, then it's off to
>> > Paris
>> > for mixing...Then to Samplitde for final premastering..
>> >
>> > So LaMont,
>> >
>> > You're processing the tracks in Nuendo, then once you feel like you've
> got
>> > what you want, you render those tracks as contiguous files and then
> import
>> > them to Paris and mix there rather than just streaming them via
> lightpipe
>> > from the Nuendo DAW to the Paris DAW?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Deej
>> >
>> > "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> news:44f5e3df$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> For me, I like to track & edit in Nuendo, THEN (smile) depending on
>> >> the
>> > music
>> >> style, mix in Paris or Pro Tools..With Paris being my favorite. BUT,
>> > Pro-Tools
>> >> (7.1) has a very nice high-end sound quality that's makes mixing very
>> > easy..
>> >>
>> >> All that being said, Nuendo/SX 's Editing & worksflow is in a league
>> >> of
>> > their
>> >> own. So, flexible, easy, yet very intuitive and powerful.
>> >> Once I've made all my edits and bouces in Nuendo, then it's off to
> Paris
>> >> for mixing...Then to Samplitde for final premastering..
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >I was thinking about getting another piece of software for mixing, =
>> >> >something that handles midi better and doesn't "flake out" as much
> using
>> >> =
>> >> >DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris, will anything be lost as
>> >> >far
> =
>> >> >as the Paris sound goes?
>> >> >
>> >> >Any suggestions on what software to get?
>> >> >
>> >> >Any reason not to go this route?
>> >> >
>> >> >Also, will the ASIO drivers allow me to track using Paris hardware
> from
>> >> =
>> >> >another app, for punching in and such?
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks,
>> >> >
>> >> >--=20
>> >> >Erick Kent
>> >> >
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>> >> >another=20
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>> >> >=
>> >> >doesn't=20
>> >> >"flake out" as much using DirectX plugs. If I still track in Paris,
> will
>> >> =
>> >> >
>> >> >anything be lost as far as the Paris sound goes?<BR></FONT></DIV>
>> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any suggestions on what =
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>> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Any reason not to go
> this=20
>> >> >route?</FONT></DIV>
>> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Also, will the ASIO
>> >> >drivers
> =
>> >> >allow me to=20
>> >> >track using Paris hardware from another app, for punching in and=20
>> >> >such?</FONT></DIV>
>> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Thanks,</DIV></FONT>
>> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><BR>-- <BR>Erick=20
>> >> >Kent</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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