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| Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95889 is a reply to message #95888] |
Tue, 12 February 2008 10:42   |
Jamie K
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Thanks for the news, Thad.
I like his idea of running it on an Eee PC.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
James McCloskey wrote:
> Ahead of it's time.
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1659841654840942756
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> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when Jobs
>> came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at the
>> time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>> although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>> the name of the OS.
>>
>> So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>> and it can actually run some software.
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>> Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>>
>>> And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source for
>> a
>>> new operating system?
>>> Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear (from
>>> the review) to be a truly
>>> viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>>
>>> The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think the
>>> likelihood is of Haiku
>>> developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>>> Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>> not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
> to
>>> entice commercial apps - I can't
>>> see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next decade.
>>>
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>>
>>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>>>> M$FT,
>>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>>>> plan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>
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| Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95890 is a reply to message #95888] |
Tue, 12 February 2008 10:44 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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Did you watch the section where he loaded 3 movies, 5 applications, graphics
animations, etc, ran the dual cpus (dual PIIs with
only 64M ram), beyond 100% usage, then turned one off - no screetching halt,
freeze or crash - just an elegant scaling down of the allocation of
resources.
Without a doubt, way ahead of it's time. In some ways, it still is.
Dedric
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47b1e612$1@linux...
>
> Ahead of it's time.
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1659841654840942756
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when Jobs
>>came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at the
>>time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>>although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>>the name of the OS.
>>
>>So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the
>>alternative,
>>and it can actually run some software.
>>
>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>>
>>>And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source for
>>a
>>>new operating system?
>>>Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear
>>>(from
>>
>>>the review) to be a truly
>>>viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>>
>>>The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think the
>>
>>>likelihood is of Haiku
>>>developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>>
>>>Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>>not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
> to
>>
>>>entice commercial apps - I can't
>>>see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next
>>>decade.
>>>
>>>Dedric
>>>
>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>>
>>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>>
>>>> M$FT,
>>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>>
>>>> plan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>
>>
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| Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95891 is a reply to message #95886] |
Tue, 12 February 2008 12:04 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Yes, James, there is a group working on it. It's in my post, which you obviously
didn't bother to read before responding. It's called Haiku. Here's a haiku
for you.
James sure loves Apple
Balance his viewpoints can lack
Please read carefully
TCB
P.S. There was more to the BeOS deal than you describe here, but let's not
go down that road again . . .
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when Jobs
>came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at the
>time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>the name of the OS.
>
>So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>and it can actually run some software.
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>
>>And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source for
>a
>>new operating system?
>>Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear (from
>
>>the review) to be a truly
>>viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>
>>The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think the
>
>>likelihood is of Haiku
>>developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>
>>Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
to
>
>>entice commercial apps - I can't
>>see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next decade.
>>
>>Dedric
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>
>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>
>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>
>>> M$FT,
>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>
>>> plan.
>>>
>>>
>>> TCB
>>
>
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| Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95892 is a reply to message #95891] |
Tue, 12 February 2008 12:13 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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There is another group that was working on a new OS that is a derivative of
BeOS, still can't think of the name, but some day I will post it.
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Yes, James, there is a group working on it. It's in my post, which you obviously
>didn't bother to read before responding. It's called Haiku. Here's a haiku
>for you.
>
>James sure loves Apple
>Balance his viewpoints can lack
>Please read carefully
>
>TCB
>
>P.S. There was more to the BeOS deal than you describe here, but let's not
>go down that road again . . .
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when Jobs
>>came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at the
>>time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>>although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>>the name of the OS.
>>
>>So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>>and it can actually run some software.
>>
>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>>
>>>And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source for
>>a
>>>new operating system?
>>>Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear (from
>>
>>>the review) to be a truly
>>>viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>>
>>>The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think the
>>
>>>likelihood is of Haiku
>>>developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>>
>>>Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>>not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
>to
>>
>>>entice commercial apps - I can't
>>>see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next decade.
>>>
>>>Dedric
>>>
>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>>
>>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>>
>>>> M$FT,
>>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>>
>>>> plan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95893 is a reply to message #95889] |
Tue, 12 February 2008 12:15 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Funny you mention that, Jamie. I just bought an EEE. When my 1920x1200 Dell
behemoth arrived I was thinking about buying one of those Amazon book reader
things and decided to save a few hundred bucks, spend a few hours on gutenberg.org
and get a real free software box. Nice little device, though the keys are
TINY.
TCB
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks for the news, Thad.
>
>I like his idea of running it on an Eee PC.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>James McCloskey wrote:
>> Ahead of it's time.
>>
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1659841654840942756
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when
Jobs
>>> came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at
the
>>> time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>>> although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>>> the name of the OS.
>>>
>>> So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>>> and it can actually run some software.
>>>
>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>> Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>>>
>>>> And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source
for
>>> a
>>>> new operating system?
>>>> Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear
(from
>>>> the review) to be a truly
>>>> viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>>>
>>>> The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think
the
>>>> likelihood is of Haiku
>>>> developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>>>> Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>>> not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
>> to
>>>> entice commercial apps - I can't
>>>> see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next
decade.
>>>>
>>>> Dedric
>>>>
>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>>>>> M$FT,
>>>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>>>>> plan.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> TCB
>>
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| Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95894 is a reply to message #95892] |
Tue, 12 February 2008 12:38 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Zeta OS is what I was thinking of. Here is some info on it. Quite a few
OSs have tried to take hold such as Lindows. Haiku looks vary cool, I welcome
it, options are always good. By the way, I wasn't trying to step on your
thread.
http://www.linux.com/feature/43570
http://www.linux.com/feature/54722
http://www.zeta-os.com/cms/custom/lcd/indexe.php
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/zeta-1-0.ars
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>There is another group that was working on a new OS that is a derivative
of
>BeOS, still can't think of the name, but some day I will post it.
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>Yes, James, there is a group working on it. It's in my post, which you
obviously
>>didn't bother to read before responding. It's called Haiku. Here's a haiku
>>for you.
>>
>>James sure loves Apple
>>Balance his viewpoints can lack
>>Please read carefully
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>P.S. There was more to the BeOS deal than you describe here, but let's
not
>>go down that road again . . .
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when Jobs
>>>came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at
the
>>>time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>>>although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>>>the name of the OS.
>>>
>>>So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>>>and it can actually run some software.
>>>
>>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>>>
>>>>And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source
for
>>>a
>>>>new operating system?
>>>>Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear
(from
>>>
>>>>the review) to be a truly
>>>>viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>>>
>>>>The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think
the
>>>
>>>>likelihood is of Haiku
>>>>developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>>>
>>>>Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>>>not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
>>to
>>>
>>>>entice commercial apps - I can't
>>>>see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next
decade.
>>>>
>>>>Dedric
>>>>
>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>>>
>>>>> M$FT,
>>>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>>>
>>>>> plan.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Who was our big time BeOS'er around here? [message #95896 is a reply to message #95893] |
Tue, 12 February 2008 11:53 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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TCB wrote:
> Funny you mention that, Jamie. I just bought an EEE. When my 1920x1200 Dell
> behemoth arrived I was thinking about buying one of those Amazon book reader
> things and decided to save a few hundred bucks, spend a few hours on gutenberg.org
> and get a real free software box. Nice little device, though the keys are
> TINY.
The EEE looks cool. Lots of bang/buck.
I still use a Psion 5mx for an ultra-portable idea box. Very tiny
keyboard. I can touch type on it but not at full speed. The little dude
is way ahead of its time, solid state storage! 16mb internal plus a CF
flash card slot. Takes standard AA batteries that last about a month. I
think it weighs about one pound. Good for typing notes or writing short
articles, and it has a simple audio recorder (lofi - adequate for
singing melodies, doing interviews and dictating ideas).
On the behemoth side, my OSX system currently drives a Dell HD-sized
monitor similar to yours, plus a vertically oriented 19" Samsung monitor
to one side for extra stuff.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
> TCB
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for the news, Thad.
>>
>> I like his idea of running it on an Eee PC.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> James McCloskey wrote:
>>> Ahead of it's time.
>>>
>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1659841654840942756
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when
> Jobs
>>>> came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at
> the
>>>> time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>>>> although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>>>> the name of the OS.
>>>>
>>>> So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>>>> and it can actually run some software.
>>>>
>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>> Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>>>>
>>>>> And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source
> for
>>>> a
>>>>> new operating system?
>>>>> Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear
> (from
>>>>> the review) to be a truly
>>>>> viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>>>>
>>>>> The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think
> the
>>>>> likelihood is of Haiku
>>>>> developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>>>>> Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>>>> not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
>>> to
>>>>> entice commercial apps - I can't
>>>>> see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next
> decade.
>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>>>>>> M$FT,
>>>>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>>>>>> plan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TCB
>
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