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| NG Outages - A clue... [message #64700] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 05:05  |
Kim
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I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but of course
that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous UPS
on it... ;o)
Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when I went
to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does it's
job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the meter
box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power glitch
today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a glitch...
....but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house, the
combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches that seem
to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough to effect
the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough to
fix it.
Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
Cheers,
Kim.
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64701 is a reply to message #64700] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 04:25  |
rick
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UPS SUX...well it did for me and i don't know why i still have the
dead one in the studio. i need direction in my life.....sigh
b 2006 23:05:12 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but of course
>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous UPS
>on it... ;o)
>
>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when I went
>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does it's
>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the meter
>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power glitch
>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a glitch...
>
>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house, the
>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches that seem
>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough to effect
>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough to
>fix it.
>
>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64705 is a reply to message #64700] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 07:26 |
dc[4]
Messages: 62
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Make sure you get one with automatic voltage regulation and
enough range of compensation to deal with sags and spikes.
That could be your problem. We put them on the DSP processors
in our sound installs and they save a lot of service calls.
And of course, make sure there is enough current capacity.
Frankly, we should all help you buy this.
DC
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but of course
>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous UPS
>on it... ;o)
>
>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when I went
>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does it's
>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the meter
>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power glitch
>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a glitch...
>
>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house, the
>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches that seem
>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough to
effect
>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough to
>fix it.
>
>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64706 is a reply to message #64705] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 07:38 |
Mike Audet
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I'd be happy to contribute to this.
"DC" <dc@spamthemoon.com> wrote:
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>Make sure you get one with automatic voltage regulation and
>enough range of compensation to deal with sags and spikes.
>
>That could be your problem. We put them on the DSP processors
>in our sound installs and they save a lot of service calls.
>
>And of course, make sure there is enough current capacity.
>
>Frankly, we should all help you buy this.
>
>
>DC
>
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but of course
>>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous UPS
>>on it... ;o)
>>
>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when I went
>>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does it's
>>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the meter
>>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power glitch
>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a glitch...
>>
>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house, the
>>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches that
seem
>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough to
>effect
>>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough
to
>>fix it.
>>
>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64709 is a reply to message #64706] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 07:55 |
Don Nafe
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Definitely, count me in for a few bucks
Don
"Mike Audet" <johnwaynefan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:43f9d44c$1@linux...
>
> I'd be happy to contribute to this.
>
> "DC" <dc@spamthemoon.com> wrote:
>>
>>Make sure you get one with automatic voltage regulation and
>>enough range of compensation to deal with sags and spikes.
>>
>>That could be your problem. We put them on the DSP processors
>>in our sound installs and they save a lot of service calls.
>>
>>And of course, make sure there is enough current capacity.
>>
>>Frankly, we should all help you buy this.
>>
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but of
>>>course
>>>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous UPS
>>>on it... ;o)
>>>
>>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when I went
>>>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does it's
>>>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the
>>>meter
>>>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power glitch
>>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a
>>>glitch...
>>>
>>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house, the
>>>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches that
> seem
>>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough to
>>effect
>>>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough
> to
>>>fix it.
>>>
>>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64713 is a reply to message #64709] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 09:00 |
uptown jimmy
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I'm there.
Jimmy
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:43f9e7d3$1@linux...
> Definitely, count me in for a few bucks
>
> Don
>
>
> "Mike Audet" <johnwaynefan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:43f9d44c$1@linux...
> >
> > I'd be happy to contribute to this.
> >
> > "DC" <dc@spamthemoon.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>Make sure you get one with automatic voltage regulation and
> >>enough range of compensation to deal with sags and spikes.
> >>
> >>That could be your problem. We put them on the DSP processors
> >>in our sound installs and they save a lot of service calls.
> >>
> >>And of course, make sure there is enough current capacity.
> >>
> >>Frankly, we should all help you buy this.
> >>
> >>
> >>DC
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but of
> >>>course
> >>>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous
UPS
> >>>on it... ;o)
> >>>
> >>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when I
went
> >>>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does
it's
> >>>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the
> >>>meter
> >>>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power
glitch
> >>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a
> >>>glitch...
> >>>
> >>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house,
the
> >>>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches that
> > seem
> >>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough to
> >>effect
> >>>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough
> > to
> >>>fix it.
> >>>
> >>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
> >>>
> >>>Cheers,
> >>>Kim.
> >>
> >
>
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64717 is a reply to message #64713] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 10:29 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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Me too. Without this site, I will die.
"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:43f9f743$1@linux...
> I'm there.
>
> Jimmy
>
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:43f9e7d3$1@linux...
> > Definitely, count me in for a few bucks
> >
> > Don
> >
> >
> > "Mike Audet" <johnwaynefan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:43f9d44c$1@linux...
> > >
> > > I'd be happy to contribute to this.
> > >
> > > "DC" <dc@spamthemoon.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>Make sure you get one with automatic voltage regulation and
> > >>enough range of compensation to deal with sags and spikes.
> > >>
> > >>That could be your problem. We put them on the DSP processors
> > >>in our sound installs and they save a lot of service calls.
> > >>
> > >>And of course, make sure there is enough current capacity.
> > >>
> > >>Frankly, we should all help you buy this.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>DC
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but of
> > >>>course
> > >>>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous
> UPS
> > >>>on it... ;o)
> > >>>
> > >>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when I
> went
> > >>>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does
> it's
> > >>>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the
> > >>>meter
> > >>>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power
> glitch
> > >>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a
> > >>>glitch...
> > >>>
> > >>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house,
> the
> > >>>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches
that
> > > seem
> > >>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough
to
> > >>effect
> > >>>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be
enough
> > > to
> > >>>fix it.
> > >>>
> > >>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
> > >>>
> > >>>Cheers,
> > >>>Kim.
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64718 is a reply to message #64717] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 10:33 |
Tom Bruhl
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You said it for Deej. Count me in for a few bucks.
Tom
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:43fa0bde@linux...
Me too. Without this site, I will die.
"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:43f9f743$1@linux...
> I'm there.
>
> Jimmy
>
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message =
news:43f9e7d3$1@linux...
> > Definitely, count me in for a few bucks
> >
> > Don
> >
> >
> > "Mike Audet" <johnwaynefan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:43f9d44c$1@linux...
> > >
> > > I'd be happy to contribute to this.
> > >
> > > "DC" <dc@spamthemoon.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>Make sure you get one with automatic voltage regulation and
> > >>enough range of compensation to deal with sags and spikes.
> > >>
> > >>That could be your problem. We put them on the DSP processors
> > >>in our sound installs and they save a lot of service calls.
> > >>
> > >>And of course, make sure there is enough current capacity.
> > >>
> > >>Frankly, we should all help you buy this.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>DC
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, =
but of
> > >>>course
> > >>>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a =
wonderous
> UPS
> > >>>on it... ;o)
> > >>>
> > >>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and =
when I
> went
> > >>>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS =
does
> it's
> > >>>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains =
at the
> > >>>meter
> > >>>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This =
power
> glitch
> > >>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make =
a
> > >>>glitch...
> > >>>
> > >>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this =
house,
> the
> > >>>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power =
glitches
that
> > > seem
> > >>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS =
enough
to
> > >>effect
> > >>>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be
enough
> > > to
> > >>>fix it.
> > >>>
> > >>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
> > >>>
> > >>>Cheers,
> > >>>Kim.
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64719 is a reply to message #64718] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 11:42 |
Rich[3]
Messages: 132
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Same here
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>You said it for Deej. Count me in for a few bucks.
>Tom
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
>news:43fa0bde@linux...
> Me too. Without this site, I will die.
>
>
> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:43f9f743$1@linux...
> > I'm there.
> >
> > Jimmy
> >
> >
> > "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message =
>news:43f9e7d3$1@linux...
> > > Definitely, count me in for a few bucks
> > >
> > > Don
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Audet" <johnwaynefan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:43f9d44c$1@linux...
> > > >
> > > > I'd be happy to contribute to this.
> > > >
> > > > "DC" <dc@spamthemoon.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>Make sure you get one with automatic voltage regulation and
> > > >>enough range of compensation to deal with sags and spikes.
> > > >>
> > > >>That could be your problem. We put them on the DSP processors
> > > >>in our sound installs and they save a lot of service calls.
> > > >>
> > > >>And of course, make sure there is enough current capacity.
> > > >>
> > > >>Frankly, we should all help you buy this.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>DC
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, =
>but of
> > > >>>course
> > > >>>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a =
>wonderous
> > UPS
> > > >>>on it... ;o)
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and =
>when I
> > went
> > > >>>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS
=
>does
> > it's
> > > >>>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains
=
>at the
> > > >>>meter
> > > >>>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This =
>power
> > glitch
> > > >>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make
=
>a
> > > >>>glitch...
> > > >>>
> > > >>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this
=
>house,
> > the
> > > >>>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power =
>glitches
> that
> > > > seem
> > > >>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS =
>enough
> to
> > > >>effect
> > > >>>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be
> enough
> > > > to
> > > >>>fix it.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Cheers,
> > > >>>Kim.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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> <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
>_@animas.net</A>>=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> href=3D"news:43fa0bde@linux">news:43fa0bde@linux</A>...</DIV>Me too. =
>Without=20
> this site, I will die.<BR><BR><BR>"uptown jimmy" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:johnson314@bellsouth.net">johnson314@bellsouth.net</A>>=
> wrote=20
> in message<BR><A=20
> href=3D"news:43f9f743$1@linux">news:43f9f743$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>I'm=20
> there.<BR>><BR>> Jimmy<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Don Nafe" <<A =
>
> href=3D"mailto:dnafe@magma.ca">dnafe@magma.ca</A>> wrote in message =
><A=20
> href=3D"news:43f9e7d3$1@linux">news:43f9e7d3$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>=20
> Definitely, count me in for a few bucks<BR>> ><BR>> > =
>Don<BR>>=20
> ><BR>> ><BR>> > "Mike Audet" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:johnwaynefan@hotmail.com">johnwaynefan@hotmail.com</A>>=
> wrote=20
> in message<BR>> > <A=20
> href=3D"news:43f9d44c$1@linux">news:43f9d44c$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>=20
> ><BR>> > > I'd be happy to contribute to this.<BR>> =
>>=20
> ><BR>> > > "DC" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:dc@spamthemoon.com">dc@spamthemoon.com</A>> =
>wrote:<BR>>=20
> > >><BR>> > >>Make sure you get one with =
>automatic=20
> voltage regulation and<BR>> > >>enough range of =
>compensation to=20
> deal with sags and spikes.<BR>> > >><BR>> > =
>>>That=20
> could be your problem. We put them on the DSP =
>processors<BR>>=20
> > >>in our sound installs and they save a lot of service=20
> calls.<BR>> > >><BR>> > >>And of course, make =
>sure=20
> there is enough current capacity.<BR>> > >><BR>> >=20
> >>Frankly, we should all help you buy this.<BR>> >=20
> >><BR>> > >><BR>> > >>DC<BR>> >=20
> >><BR>> > >><BR>> > >><BR>> >=20
> >>"Kim" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
>=20
> wrote:<BR>> > >>><BR>> > >>><BR>> =
>>=20
> >>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little =
>unstable, but=20
> of<BR>> > >>>course<BR>> > >>>that =
>shouldn't be=20
> a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous<BR>> =
>UPS<BR>> >=20
> >>>on it... ;o)<BR>> > >>><BR>> >=20
> >>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, =
>and when=20
> I<BR>> went<BR>> > >>>to look at the server, "Uh =
>oh!", out=20
> of action. I know the UPS does<BR>> it's<BR>> > =
>>>>job at=20
> times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the<BR>> =
>>=20
> >>>meter<BR>> > >>>box for a few seconds and =
>the=20
> server kept running fine. This power<BR>> glitch<BR>> >=20
> >>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would =
>make=20
> a<BR>> > >>>glitch...<BR>> > >>><BR>> =
>>=20
> >>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in =
>this=20
> house,<BR>> the<BR>> > >>>combination isn't happy. =
>Something=20
> in the constant power glitches<BR>that<BR>> > > seem<BR>> =
>>=20
> >>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular =
>UPS=20
> enough<BR>to<BR>> > >>effect<BR>> > >>>the =
>server.=20
> I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be<BR>enough<BR>> =
>>=20
> > to<BR>> > >>>fix it.<BR>> > =
>>>><BR>>=20
> > >>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS =
>shortly...<BR>>=20
> > >>><BR>> > >>>Cheers,<BR>> >=20
> >>>Kim.<BR>> > >><BR>> > ><BR>> =
>><BR>>=20
> ><BR>><BR>><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64723 is a reply to message #64719] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 13:39 |
John Macy
Messages: 242
Registered: April 2006
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Senior Member |
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"Rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>Same here
>
>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>You said it for Deej. Count me in for a few bucks.
>>Tom
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
>>news:43fa0bde@linux...
>> Me too. Without this site, I will die.
>>
>>
>> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:43f9f743$1@linux...
>> > I'm there.
>> >
>> > Jimmy
>> >
>> >
>> > "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message =
>>news:43f9e7d3$1@linux...
>> > > Definitely, count me in for a few bucks
>> > >
>> > > Don
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Mike Audet" <johnwaynefan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:43f9d44c$1@linux...
>> > > >
>> > > > I'd be happy to contribute to this.
>> > > >
>> > > > "DC" <dc@spamthemoon.com> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >>Make sure you get one with automatic voltage regulation and
>> > > >>enough range of compensation to deal with sags and spikes.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>That could be your problem. We put them on the DSP processors
>> > > >>in our sound installs and they save a lot of service calls.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>And of course, make sure there is enough current capacity.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>Frankly, we should all help you buy this.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>DC
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable,
=
>>but of
>> > > >>>course
>> > > >>>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a =
>>wonderous
>> > UPS
>> > > >>>on it... ;o)
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and =
>>when I
>> > went
>> > > >>>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS
>=
>>does
>> > it's
>> > > >>>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains
>=
>>at the
>> > > >>>meter
>> > > >>>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This =
>>power
>> > glitch
>> > > >>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make
>=
>>a
>> > > >>>glitch...
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this
>=
>>house,
>> > the
>> > > >>>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power =
>>glitches
>> that
>> > > > seem
>> > > >>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS
=
>>enough
>> to
>> > > >>effect
>> > > >>>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be
>> enough
>> > > > to
>> > > >>>fix it.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>Cheers,
>> > > >>>Kim.
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>><HTML><HEAD>
>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>><STYLE></STYLE>
>></HEAD>
>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You said it for Deej. Count me in =
>>for a few=20
>>bucks.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
>>_@animas.net</A>>=20
>> wrote in message <A=20
>> href=3D"news:43fa0bde@linux">news:43fa0bde@linux</A>...</DIV>Me too.
=
>>Without=20
>> this site, I will die.<BR><BR><BR>"uptown jimmy" <<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"mailto:johnson314@bellsouth.net">johnson314@bellsouth.net</A>>=
>> wrote=20
>> in message<BR><A=20
>> href=3D"news:43f9f743$1@linux">news:43f9f743$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>I'm=20
>> there.<BR>><BR>> Jimmy<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Don Nafe" <<A =
>>
>> href=3D"mailto:dnafe@magma.ca">dnafe@magma.ca</A>> wrote in message =
>><A=20
>> href=3D"news:43f9e7d3$1@linux">news:43f9e7d3$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>>=20
>> Definitely, count me in for a few bucks<BR>> ><BR>> > =
>>Don<BR>>=20
>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > "Mike Audet" <<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"mailto:johnwaynefan@hotmail.com">johnwaynefan@hotmail.com</A>>=
>> wrote=20
>> in message<BR>> > <A=20
>> href=3D"news:43f9d44c$1@linux">news:43f9d44c$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>>=20
>> ><BR>> > > I'd be happy to contribute to this.<BR>> =
>>>=20
>> ><BR>> > > "DC" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:dc@spamthemoon.com">dc@spamthemoon.com</A>> =
>>wrote:<BR>>=20
>> > >><BR>> > >>Make sure you get one with =
>>automatic=20
>> voltage regulation and<BR>> > >>enough range of =
>>compensation to=20
>> deal with sags and spikes.<BR>> > >><BR>> > =
>>>>That=20
>> could be your problem. We put them on the DSP =
>>processors<BR>>=20
>> > >>in our sound installs and they save a lot of service=20
>> calls.<BR>> > >><BR>> > >>And of course, make =
>>sure=20
>> there is enough current capacity.<BR>> > >><BR>> >=20
>> >>Frankly, we should all help you buy this.<BR>> >=20
>> >><BR>> > >><BR>> > >>DC<BR>> >=20
>> >><BR>> > >><BR>> > >><BR>> >=20
>> >>"Kim" <<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>> > >>><BR>> > >>><BR>> =
>>>=20
>> >>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little =
>>unstable, but=20
>> of<BR>> > >>>course<BR>> > >>>that =
>>shouldn't be=20
>> a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous<BR>> =
>>UPS<BR>> >=20
>> >>>on it... ;o)<BR>> > >>><BR>> >=20
>> >>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, =
>>and when=20
>> I<BR>> went<BR>> > >>>to look at the server, "Uh =
>>oh!", out=20
>> of action. I know the UPS does<BR>> it's<BR>> > =
>>>>>job at=20
>> times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the<BR>> =
>>>=20
>> >>>meter<BR>> > >>>box for a few seconds and =
>>the=20
>> server kept running fine. This power<BR>> glitch<BR>> >=20
>> >>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would =
>>make=20
>> a<BR>> > >>>glitch...<BR>> > >>><BR>> =
>>>=20
>> >>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in =
>>this=20
>> house,<BR>> the<BR>> > >>>combination isn't happy. =
>>Something=20
>> in the constant power glitches<BR>that<BR>> > > seem<BR>> =
>>>=20
>> >>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular =
>>UPS=20
>> enough<BR>to<BR>> > >>effect<BR>> > >>>the =
>>server.=20
>> I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be<BR>enough<BR>> =
>>>=20
>> > to<BR>> > >>>fix it.<BR>> > =
>>>>><BR>>=20
>> > >>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS =
>>shortly...<BR>>=20
>> > >>><BR>> > >>>Cheers,<BR>> >=20
>> >>>Kim.<BR>> > >><BR>> > ><BR>> =
>>><BR>>=20
>> ><BR>><BR>><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64724 is a reply to message #64723] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 13:40 |
John Macy
Messages: 242
Registered: April 2006
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Senior Member |
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I'm in, too. Just let me know when and how...:)
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>
>"Rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Same here
>>
>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>You said it for Deej. Count me in for a few bucks.
>>>Tom
>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
>>>news:43fa0bde@linux...
>>> Me too. Without this site, I will die.
>>>
>>>
>>> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:43f9f743$1@linux...
>>> > I'm there.
>>> >
>>> > Jimmy
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message =
>>>news:43f9e7d3$1@linux...
>>> > > Definitely, count me in for a few bucks
>>> > >
>>> > > Don
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > "Mike Audet" <johnwaynefan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> > > news:43f9d44c$1@linux...
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I'd be happy to contribute to this.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > "DC" <dc@spamthemoon.com> wrote:
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>Make sure you get one with automatic voltage regulation and
>>> > > >>enough range of compensation to deal with sags and spikes.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>That could be your problem. We put them on the DSP processors
>>> > > >>in our sound installs and they save a lot of service calls.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>And of course, make sure there is enough current capacity.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>Frankly, we should all help you buy this.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>DC
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable,
>=
>>>but of
>>> > > >>>course
>>> > > >>>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a =
>>>wonderous
>>> > UPS
>>> > > >>>on it... ;o)
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and
=
>>>when I
>>> > went
>>> > > >>>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS
>>=
>>>does
>>> > it's
>>> > > >>>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains
>>=
>>>at the
>>> > > >>>meter
>>> > > >>>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This
=
>>>power
>>> > glitch
>>> > > >>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make
>>=
>>>a
>>> > > >>>glitch...
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this
>>=
>>>house,
>>> > the
>>> > > >>>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power =
>>>glitches
>>> that
>>> > > > seem
>>> > > >>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS
>=
>>>enough
>>> to
>>> > > >>effect
>>> > > >>>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would
be
>>> enough
>>> > > > to
>>> > > >>>fix it.
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>>Cheers,
>>> > > >>>Kim.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>></HEAD>
>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You said it for Deej. Count me in =
>>>for a few=20
>>>bucks.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
>>>_@animas.net</A>>=20
>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>> href=3D"news:43fa0bde@linux">news:43fa0bde@linux</A>...</DIV>Me too.
>=
>>>Without=20
>>> this site, I will die.<BR><BR><BR>"uptown jimmy" <<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"mailto:johnson314@bellsouth.net">johnson314@bellsouth.net</A>>=
>>> wrote=20
>>> in message<BR><A=20
>>> href=3D"news:43f9f743$1@linux">news:43f9f743$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>>I'm=20
>>> there.<BR>><BR>> Jimmy<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Don Nafe" <<A =
>>>
>>> href=3D"mailto:dnafe@magma.ca">dnafe@magma.ca</A>> wrote in message
=
>>><A=20
>>> href=3D"news:43f9e7d3$1@linux">news:43f9e7d3$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>>>=20
>>> Definitely, count me in for a few bucks<BR>> ><BR>> > =
>>>Don<BR>>=20
>>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > "Mike Audet" <<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"mailto:johnwaynefan@hotmail.com">johnwaynefan@hotmail.com</A>>=
>>> wrote=20
>>> in message<BR>> > <A=20
>>> href=3D"news:43f9d44c$1@linux">news:43f9d44c$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>>>=20
>>> ><BR>> > > I'd be happy to contribute to this.<BR>> =
>>>>=20
>>> ><BR>> > > "DC" <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:dc@spamthemoon.com">dc@spamthemoon.com</A>> =
>>>wrote:<BR>>=20
>>> > >><BR>> > >>Make sure you get one with =
>>>automatic=20
>>> voltage regulation and<BR>> > >>enough range of =
>>>compensation to=20
>>> deal with sags and spikes.<BR>> > >><BR>> > =
>>>>>That=20
>>> could be your problem. We put them on the DSP =
>>>processors<BR>>=20
>>> > >>in our sound installs and they save a lot of service=20
>>> calls.<BR>> > >><BR>> > >>And of course, make =
>>>sure=20
>>> there is enough current capacity.<BR>> > >><BR>> >=20
>>> >>Frankly, we should all help you buy this.<BR>> >=20
>>> >><BR>> > >><BR>> > >>DC<BR>> >=20
>>> >><BR>> > >><BR>> > >><BR>> >=20
>>> >>"Kim" <<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
>>>=20
>>> wrote:<BR>> > >>><BR>> > >>><BR>> =
>>>>=20
>>> >>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little =
>>>unstable, but=20
>>> of<BR>> > >>>course<BR>> > >>>that =
>>>shouldn't be=20
>>> a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous<BR>> =
>>>UPS<BR>> >=20
>>> >>>on it... ;o)<BR>> > >>><BR>> >=20
>>> >>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, =
>>>and when=20
>>> I<BR>> went<BR>> > >>>to look at the server, "Uh =
>>>oh!", out=20
>>> of action. I know the UPS does<BR>> it's<BR>> > =
>>>>>>job at=20
>>> times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the<BR>>
=
>>>>=20
>>> >>>meter<BR>> > >>>box for a few seconds and =
>>>the=20
>>> server kept running fine. This power<BR>> glitch<BR>> >=20
>>> >>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would =
>>>make=20
>>> a<BR>> > >>>glitch...<BR>> > >>><BR>> =
>>>>=20
>>> >>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in =
>>>this=20
>>> house,<BR>> the<BR>> > >>>combination isn't happy. =
>>>Something=20
>>> in the constant power glitches<BR>that<BR>> > > seem<BR>> =
>>>>=20
>>> >>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular =
>>>UPS=20
>>> enough<BR>to<BR>> > >>effect<BR>> > >>>the =
>>>server.=20
>>> I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be<BR>enough<BR>> =
>>>>=20
>>> > to<BR>> > >>>fix it.<BR>> > =
>>>>>><BR>>=20
>>> > >>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS =
>>>shortly...<BR>>=20
>>> > >>><BR>> > >>>Cheers,<BR>> >=20
>>> >>>Kim.<BR>> > >><BR>> > ><BR>> =
>>>><BR>>=20
>>> ><BR>><BR>><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64728 is a reply to message #64724] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 15:05 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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Senior Member |
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Me too.
Rod
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>
>I'm in, too. Just let me know when and how...:)
>
>
>
>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Same here
>>>
>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You said it for Deej. Count me in for a few bucks.
>>>>Tom
>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
>>>>news:43fa0bde@linux...
>>>> Me too. Without this site, I will die.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:43f9f743$1@linux...
>>>> > I'm there.
>>>> >
>>>> > Jimmy
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message =
>>>>news:43f9e7d3$1@linux...
>>>> > > Definitely, count me in for a few bucks
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Don
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > "Mike Audet" <johnwaynefan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> > > news:43f9d44c$1@linux...
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > I'd be happy to contribute to this.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > "DC" <dc@spamthemoon.com> wrote:
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>Make sure you get one with automatic voltage regulation and
>>>> > > >>enough range of compensation to deal with sags and spikes.
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>That could be your problem. We put them on the DSP processors
>>>> > > >>in our sound installs and they save a lot of service calls.
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>And of course, make sure there is enough current capacity.
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>Frankly, we should all help you buy this.
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>DC
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > > >>>
>>>> > > >>>
>>>> > > >>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable,
>>=
>>>>but of
>>>> > > >>>course
>>>> > > >>>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a
=
>>>>wonderous
>>>> > UPS
>>>> > > >>>on it... ;o)
>>>> > > >>>
>>>> > > >>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and
>=
>>>>when I
>>>> > went
>>>> > > >>>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS
>>>=
>>>>does
>>>> > it's
>>>> > > >>>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains
>>>=
>>>>at the
>>>> > > >>>meter
>>>> > > >>>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This
>=
>>>>power
>>>> > glitch
>>>> > > >>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make
>>>=
>>>>a
>>>> > > >>>glitch...
>>>> > > >>>
>>>> > > >>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this
>>>=
>>>>house,
>>>> > the
>>>> > > >>>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power =
>>>>glitches
>>>> that
>>>> > > > seem
>>>> > > >>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS
>>=
>>>>enough
>>>> to
>>>> > > >>effect
>>>> > > >>>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would
>be
>>>> enough
>>>> > > > to
>>>> > > >>>fix it.
>>>> > > >>>
>>>> > > >>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
>>>> > > >>>
>>>> > > >>>Cheers,
>>>> > > >>>Kim.
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>></HEAD>
>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You said it for Deej. Count me in =
>>>>for a few=20
>>>>bucks.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
>>>>_@animas.net</A>>=20
>>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>>> href=3D"news:43fa0bde@linux">news:43fa0bde@linux</A>...</DIV>Me too.
>>=
>>>>Without=20
>>>> this site, I will die.<BR><BR><BR>"uptown jimmy" <<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"mailto:johnson314@bellsouth.net">johnson314@bellsouth.net</A>>=
>>>> wrote=20
>>>> in message<BR><A=20
>>>> href=3D"news:43f9f743$1@linux">news:43f9f743$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>>>I'm=20
>>>> there.<BR>><BR>> Jimmy<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Don Nafe" <<A =
>>>>
>>>> href=3D"mailto:dnafe@magma.ca">dnafe@magma.ca</A>> wrote in message
>=
>>>><A=20
>>>> href=3D"news:43f9e7d3$1@linux">news:43f9e7d3$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>>>>=20
>>>> Definitely, count me in for a few bucks<BR>> ><BR>> > =
>>>>Don<BR>>=20
>>>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > "Mike Audet" <<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"mailto:johnwaynefan@hotmail.com">johnwaynefan@hotmail.com</A>>=
>>>> wrote=20
>>>> in message<BR>> > <A=20
>>>> href=3D"news:43f9d44c$1@linux">news:43f9d44c$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>>>>=20
>>>> ><BR>> > > I'd be happy to contribute to this.<BR>> =
>>>>>=20
>>>> ><BR>> > > "DC" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:dc@spamthemoon.com">dc@spamthemoon.com</A>> =
>>>>wrote:<BR>>=20
>>>> > >><BR>> > >>Make sure you get one with =
>>>>automatic=20
>>>> voltage regulation and<BR>> > >>enough range of =
>>>>compensation to=20
>>>> deal with sags and spikes.<BR>> > >><BR>> > =
>>>>>>That=20
>>>> could be your problem. We put them on the DSP =
>>>>processors<BR>>=20
>>>> > >>in our sound installs and they save a lot of service=20
>>>> calls.<BR>> > >><BR>> > >>And of course, make =
>>>>sure=20
>>>> there is enough current capacity.<BR>> > >><BR>> >=20
>>>> >>Frankly, we should all help you buy this.<BR>> >=20
>>>> >><BR>> > >><BR>> > >>DC<BR>> >=20
>>>> >><BR>> > >><BR>> > >><BR>> >=20
>>>> >>"Kim" <<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
>>>>=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>> > >>><BR>> > >>><BR>> =
>>>>>=20
>>>> >>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little =
>>>>unstable, but=20
>>>> of<BR>> > >>>course<BR>> > >>>that =
>>>>shouldn't be=20
>>>> a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous<BR>> =
>>>>UPS<BR>> >=20
>>>> >>>on it... ;o)<BR>> > >>><BR>> >=20
>>>> >>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, =
>>>>and when=20
>>>> I<BR>> went<BR>> > >>>to look at the server, "Uh =
>>>>oh!", out=20
>>>> of action. I know the UPS does<BR>> it's<BR>> > =
>>>>>>>job at=20
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>>>>>=20
>>>> >>>meter<BR>> > >>>box for a few seconds and =
>>>>the=20
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>>>> >>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would =
>>>>make=20
>>>> a<BR>> > >>>glitch...<BR>> > >>><BR>> =
>>>>>=20
>>>> >>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in =
>>>>this=20
>>>> house,<BR>> the<BR>> > >>>combination isn't happy. =
>>>>Something=20
>>>> in the constant power glitches<BR>that<BR>> > > seem<BR>> =
>>>>>=20
>>>> >>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular =
>>>>UPS=20
>>>> enough<BR>to<BR>> > >>effect<BR>> > >>>the =
>>>>server.=20
>>>> I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be<BR>enough<BR>>
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>>>>>=20
>>>> > to<BR>> > >>>fix it.<BR>> > =
>>>>>>><BR>>=20
>>>> > >>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS =
>>>>shortly...<BR>>=20
>>>> > >>><BR>> > >>>Cheers,<BR>> >=20
>>>> >>>Kim.<BR>> > >><BR>> > ><BR>> =
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64733 is a reply to message #64731] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 15:34 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
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"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Just get a PayPal account so we can send you money. We don't care what you
>do with it, but then if the site goes down we will all have an excuse to
>bitch and moan.
Hehe, indeed. ;o) Exactly what I'm afraid of. ;o)
I already have a paypal account. I'll let you know where it is if I find
I need to go get a UPS on the weekend. Though Rick has me wondering with
all these different account types whether I have the right type for people
to pay me. Do they all do that? Surely I chose a type which allowed people
to pay me. Oh, it's so long ago, and so many brain cells have died... ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
>
>;oP
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43fa3e8a$1@linux...
>>
>> "DC" <dc@spamthemoon.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Make sure you get one with automatic voltage regulation and
>> >enough range of compensation to deal with sags and spikes.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that is my problem with the current one. It's got plenty
>> of mumbo to do the job (it's rated at like 700 watts and I must be using
>> like 100). It just seems that under certain circumstances in this house
>the
>> power fluctuates enough to hang the server, but not enough for the UPS
to
>> kick in. Didn't happen at the last place. I think the power was more
>stable
>> there.
>>
>> I can see I'm going to have to do my homework and read the specs on a
few
>> different models to find a good one.
>>
>> Before I buy anything or accept any donations however I want to grab a
>copy
>> of the UPS software and see if I can't tweak the current one to be a
>little
>> more fussy about what it lets through. Unfortunately the software is
>around
>> at the old place so I have to make it around there at some point to pick
>> it up. If I do need to buy a new one I would be happy to accept donations
>> though for this one off expense. Apart from anything else it will help
>guarantee
>> that we have the funds to get a good one. I imagine, given the number
of
>> respondants already, that just $10 a peice or something would probably
be
>> enough, but we'll wait and see if I can tweak the current one first.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64735 is a reply to message #64700] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 18:19 |
Chuck
Messages: 4
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I can send you the one I used to use if you have 100 lbs postage to Aus :-)
Chuck
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but of course
>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous UPS
>on it... ;o)
>
>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when I went
>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does it's
>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the meter
>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power glitch
>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a glitch...
>
>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house, the
>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches that seem
>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough to
effect
>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough to
>fix it.
>
>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64741 is a reply to message #64739] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 19:21 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Yeh I checked the site already. It's some rebadged Asian thing which came
with custom software, and the guys who's badge it carried no longer do UPS's,
and I can't find anyone else who does this model. Serves me right for buying
some dodgy cheap thing. ;o)
If the solution is a new one I think I'll be going APC. There's nothing like
a decent brand.
Cheers,
Kim.
Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>Kim,
>
>Check the manufacturers site for the software. Tripplite and APC
>have software available for download (free) on their site. I'm in if
>the solution is a new one.
>
>Jeff
>
>Kim wrote:
>> "DC" <dc@spamthemoon.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Make sure you get one with automatic voltage regulation and
>>>enough range of compensation to deal with sags and spikes.
>>
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that is my problem with the current one. It's got plenty
>> of mumbo to do the job (it's rated at like 700 watts and I must be using
>> like 100). It just seems that under certain circumstances in this house
the
>> power fluctuates enough to hang the server, but not enough for the UPS
to
>> kick in. Didn't happen at the last place. I think the power was more stable
>> there.
>>
>> I can see I'm going to have to do my homework and read the specs on a
few
>> different models to find a good one.
>>
>> Before I buy anything or accept any donations however I want to grab a
copy
>> of the UPS software and see if I can't tweak the current one to be a little
>> more fussy about what it lets through. Unfortunately the software is around
>> at the old place so I have to make it around there at some point to pick
>> it up. If I do need to buy a new one I would be happy to accept donations
>> though for this one off expense. Apart from anything else it will help
guarantee
>> that we have the funds to get a good one. I imagine, given the number
of
>> respondants already, that just $10 a peice or something would probably
be
>> enough, but we'll wait and see if I can tweak the current one first.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64746 is a reply to message #64745] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 22:05 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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The problem is that we're on a different voltage down here. We run 240V,
whereas you guys are on 110V, or is it 120V? Doesn't matter. Your gear wont
run down here...
....unless I was to get a 240-110 Stepdown transformer (which are about $100
I think), and you were to ship me a 110V PC power supply to put in the server,
but even then I need to run the router as well. I guess you could ship me
a 12V 1A plugpack as well.
Much as it sounds good in theory I think by the time you added up all the
extra bits like shipment, stepdown transformer and all the other bits and
peices that would be needed to cater to the voltage difference, it wouldn't
really be worth it.
I'm sure I can find something for under $200 down here...
Cheers,
Kim.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I'll check to see what it would cost to ship APC to AUS. A good friend here
>owns a UPS store and has other shipping providers as well. We've got a
>CompUSA here and I've got 4 x of these unit powering my MECs , computers,
>monitors, clocks, converters and anything else that would bite me if I had
a
>power issue.
> http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_cod e=298348&pfp=ext
>ernal&tabtype=rv#moreinfo
>One of these would be more than enough to protect a single server, I would
>think.
>
>Deej
>
>"DC" <dc@spamyermama.com> wrote in message news:43fa7db0$1@linux...
>>
>> No kidding.
>>
>> I went to the APC website and units that we pay 225.00 USD
>> are like 1250.00 Aus.
>>
>> Holy Cow! The exchange rate is about 1.35 Aus dollars to USD,
>> so that does not account for it. I hope you have some locally-
>> made ones that are good...
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>>
>> >...and I'm highly suspicious it would be cheaper to buy one here. :o)
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >Kim.
>>
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64747 is a reply to message #64746] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 22:10 |
DC
Messages: 722
Registered: July 2005
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Yah, my first thought was to zip down to Fry's and send you a
nice APC1500. That's what I use and it is super.
Spend the extra though and get both a good brand and one with AVR (automatic
voltage regulation) Let us help you pay for it,
it is the least we can do.
Tripplite is another option and while they don't tell you the aus.
price on the site, they do have a rep assigned to you all.
http://www.tripplite.com/worldwide/ordering.cfm
best,
DC
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>The problem is that we're on a different voltage down here. We run 240V,
>whereas you guys are on 110V, or is it 120V? Doesn't matter. Your gear wont
>run down here...
>
>...unless I was to get a 240-110 Stepdown transformer (which are about $100
>I think), and you were to ship me a 110V PC power supply to put in the server,
>but even then I need to run the router as well. I guess you could ship me
>a 12V 1A plugpack as well.
>
>Much as it sounds good in theory I think by the time you added up all the
>extra bits like shipment, stepdown transformer and all the other bits and
>peices that would be needed to cater to the voltage difference, it wouldn't
>really be worth it.
>
>I'm sure I can find something for under $200 down here...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>I'll check to see what it would cost to ship APC to AUS. A good friend
here
>>owns a UPS store and has other shipping providers as well. We've got a
>>CompUSA here and I've got 4 x of these unit powering my MECs , computers,
>>monitors, clocks, converters and anything else that would bite me if I
had
>a
>>power issue.
>> http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_cod e=298348&pfp=ext
>>ernal&tabtype=rv#moreinfo
>>One of these would be more than enough to protect a single server, I would
>>think.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spamyermama.com> wrote in message news:43fa7db0$1@linux...
>>>
>>> No kidding.
>>>
>>> I went to the APC website and units that we pay 225.00 USD
>>> are like 1250.00 Aus.
>>>
>>> Holy Cow! The exchange rate is about 1.35 Aus dollars to USD,
>>> so that does not account for it. I hope you have some locally-
>>> made ones that are good...
>>>
>>> DC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >...and I'm highly suspicious it would be cheaper to buy one here. :o)
>>> >
>>> >Cheers,
>>> >Kim.
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64748 is a reply to message #64747] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 23:16 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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I can get an APC (RS?) 1500VA for $569:
http://www.cpl.net.au/green_guide/984945502.pdf
Or the APC RS 1000VA for $469. That would be plenty of mumbo, but I assume
the 1500VA would keep it running for longer if power dropped out for a while.
Or we can get a Powerware 5110 1000VA for $219, which is more the price range
I was thinking. Of course I want one that works properly. AVR sounds good.
I'll check some specs when I get home.
Obviously it's not such a big deal if 20 people put in $20 each instead of
$10, as opposed to one person (me) forking out $500.
....and of course every $10 you guys put in becomes like $13 at this end.
Cheers,
Kim.
"DC" <dc@spamyermama.com> wrote:
>
>Yah, my first thought was to zip down to Fry's and send you a
>nice APC1500. That's what I use and it is super.
>
>Spend the extra though and get both a good brand and one with AVR (automatic
>voltage regulation) Let us help you pay for it,
>it is the least we can do.
>
>Tripplite is another option and while they don't tell you the aus.
>price on the site, they do have a rep assigned to you all.
>
>http://www.tripplite.com/worldwide/ordering.cfm
>
>best,
>
>DC
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>The problem is that we're on a different voltage down here. We run 240V,
>>whereas you guys are on 110V, or is it 120V? Doesn't matter. Your gear
wont
>>run down here...
>>
>>...unless I was to get a 240-110 Stepdown transformer (which are about
$100
>>I think), and you were to ship me a 110V PC power supply to put in the
server,
>>but even then I need to run the router as well. I guess you could ship
me
>>a 12V 1A plugpack as well.
>>
>>Much as it sounds good in theory I think by the time you added up all the
>>extra bits like shipment, stepdown transformer and all the other bits and
>>peices that would be needed to cater to the voltage difference, it wouldn't
>>really be worth it.
>>
>>I'm sure I can find something for under $200 down here...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>I'll check to see what it would cost to ship APC to AUS. A good friend
>here
>>>owns a UPS store and has other shipping providers as well. We've got a
>>>CompUSA here and I've got 4 x of these unit powering my MECs , computers,
>>>monitors, clocks, converters and anything else that would bite me if I
>had
>>a
>>>power issue.
>>> http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_cod e=298348&pfp=ext
>>>ernal&tabtype=rv#moreinfo
>>>One of these would be more than enough to protect a single server, I would
>>>think.
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spamyermama.com> wrote in message news:43fa7db0$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> No kidding.
>>>>
>>>> I went to the APC website and units that we pay 225.00 USD
>>>> are like 1250.00 Aus.
>>>>
>>>> Holy Cow! The exchange rate is about 1.35 Aus dollars to USD,
>>>> so that does not account for it. I hope you have some locally-
>>>> made ones that are good...
>>>>
>>>> DC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >...and I'm highly suspicious it would be cheaper to buy one here. :o)
>>>> >
>>>> >Cheers,
>>>> >Kim.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64753 is a reply to message #64748] |
Tue, 21 February 2006 06:34 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Senior Member |
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Strewth!!! ;o) Tell us what you need. One morning you will wake up to an
invitation to a pub. When you get to the pub, it will be packed with people.
All of your friends will be there (and the ones there that you've never met
will be us) and there will be this big cake and the band will start playing
hail to the Queen, when all of a sudden Naomi Watts will jump out of the
cake, clad in leather weilding a bullwhip in one hand and and APC in the
other It will then be up to you to errrrrrr......liberate it in whatevery
way seems appropriate.
This is the only condition I have for sending you APC money.
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43fab051$1@linux...
>
>
> I can get an APC (RS?) 1500VA for $569:
>
> http://www.cpl.net.au/green_guide/984945502.pdf
>
> Or the APC RS 1000VA for $469. That would be plenty of mumbo, but I assume
> the 1500VA would keep it running for longer if power dropped out for a
while.
>
> Or we can get a Powerware 5110 1000VA for $219, which is more the price
range
> I was thinking. Of course I want one that works properly. AVR sounds good.
> I'll check some specs when I get home.
>
> Obviously it's not such a big deal if 20 people put in $20 each instead of
> $10, as opposed to one person (me) forking out $500.
>
> ...and of course every $10 you guys put in becomes like $13 at this end.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "DC" <dc@spamyermama.com> wrote:
> >
> >Yah, my first thought was to zip down to Fry's and send you a
> >nice APC1500. That's what I use and it is super.
> >
> >Spend the extra though and get both a good brand and one with AVR
(automatic
> >voltage regulation) Let us help you pay for it,
> >it is the least we can do.
> >
> >Tripplite is another option and while they don't tell you the aus.
> >price on the site, they do have a rep assigned to you all.
> >
> >http://www.tripplite.com/worldwide/ordering.cfm
> >
> >best,
> >
> >DC
> >
> >
> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>The problem is that we're on a different voltage down here. We run 240V,
> >>whereas you guys are on 110V, or is it 120V? Doesn't matter. Your gear
> wont
> >>run down here...
> >>
> >>...unless I was to get a 240-110 Stepdown transformer (which are about
> $100
> >>I think), and you were to ship me a 110V PC power supply to put in the
> server,
> >>but even then I need to run the router as well. I guess you could ship
> me
> >>a 12V 1A plugpack as well.
> >>
> >>Much as it sounds good in theory I think by the time you added up all
the
> >>extra bits like shipment, stepdown transformer and all the other bits
and
> >>peices that would be needed to cater to the voltage difference, it
wouldn't
> >>really be worth it.
> >>
> >>I'm sure I can find something for under $200 down here...
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>Kim.
> >>
> >>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >>>I'll check to see what it would cost to ship APC to AUS. A good friend
> >here
> >>>owns a UPS store and has other shipping providers as well. We've got a
> >>>CompUSA here and I've got 4 x of these unit powering my MECs ,
computers,
> >>>monitors, clocks, converters and anything else that would bite me if I
> >had
> >>a
> >>>power issue.
>
>>> http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_cod e=298348&pfp=
ext
> >>>ernal&tabtype=rv#moreinfo
> >>>One of these would be more than enough to protect a single server, I
would
> >>>think.
> >>>
> >>>Deej
> >>>
> >>>"DC" <dc@spamyermama.com> wrote in message news:43fa7db0$1@linux...
> >>>>
> >>>> No kidding.
> >>>>
> >>>> I went to the APC website and units that we pay 225.00 USD
> >>>> are like 1250.00 Aus.
> >>>>
> >>>> Holy Cow! The exchange rate is about 1.35 Aus dollars to USD,
> >>>> so that does not account for it. I hope you have some locally-
> >>>> made ones that are good...
> >>>>
> >>>> DC
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >...and I'm highly suspicious it would be cheaper to buy one here.
:o)
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Cheers,
> >>>> >Kim.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64759 is a reply to message #64748] |
Tue, 21 February 2006 08:09 |
Mike Audet
Messages: 294
Registered: December 2008
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Hi Kim,
Just let me know how to get some $ to you and how much, and it will done
that very minute.
All the best,
Mike
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I can get an APC (RS?) 1500VA for $569:
>
>http://www.cpl.net.au/green_guide/984945502.pdf
>
>Or the APC RS 1000VA for $469. That would be plenty of mumbo, but I assume
>the 1500VA would keep it running for longer if power dropped out for a while.
>
>Or we can get a Powerware 5110 1000VA for $219, which is more the price
range
>I was thinking. Of course I want one that works properly. AVR sounds good.
>I'll check some specs when I get home.
>
>Obviously it's not such a big deal if 20 people put in $20 each instead
of
>$10, as opposed to one person (me) forking out $500.
>
>...and of course every $10 you guys put in becomes like $13 at this end.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"DC" <dc@spamyermama.com> wrote:
>>
>>Yah, my first thought was to zip down to Fry's and send you a
>>nice APC1500. That's what I use and it is super.
>>
>>Spend the extra though and get both a good brand and one with AVR (automatic
>>voltage regulation) Let us help you pay for it,
>>it is the least we can do.
>>
>>Tripplite is another option and while they don't tell you the aus.
>>price on the site, they do have a rep assigned to you all.
>>
>>http://www.tripplite.com/worldwide/ordering.cfm
>>
>>best,
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>The problem is that we're on a different voltage down here. We run 240V,
>>>whereas you guys are on 110V, or is it 120V? Doesn't matter. Your gear
>wont
>>>run down here...
>>>
>>>...unless I was to get a 240-110 Stepdown transformer (which are about
>$100
>>>I think), and you were to ship me a 110V PC power supply to put in the
>server,
>>>but even then I need to run the router as well. I guess you could ship
>me
>>>a 12V 1A plugpack as well.
>>>
>>>Much as it sounds good in theory I think by the time you added up all
the
>>>extra bits like shipment, stepdown transformer and all the other bits
and
>>>peices that would be needed to cater to the voltage difference, it wouldn't
>>>really be worth it.
>>>
>>>I'm sure I can find something for under $200 down here...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>I'll check to see what it would cost to ship APC to AUS. A good friend
>>here
>>>>owns a UPS store and has other shipping providers as well. We've got
a
>>>>CompUSA here and I've got 4 x of these unit powering my MECs , computers,
>>>>monitors, clocks, converters and anything else that would bite me if
I
>>had
>>>a
>>>>power issue.
>>>> http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_cod e=298348&pfp=ext
>>>>ernal&tabtype=rv#moreinfo
>>>>One of these would be more than enough to protect a single server, I
would
>>>>think.
>>>>
>>>>Deej
>>>>
>>>>"DC" <dc@spamyermama.com> wrote in message news:43fa7db0$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> No kidding.
>>>>>
>>>>> I went to the APC website and units that we pay 225.00 USD
>>>>> are like 1250.00 Aus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Holy Cow! The exchange rate is about 1.35 Aus dollars to USD,
>>>>> so that does not account for it. I hope you have some locally-
>>>>> made ones that are good...
>>>>>
>>>>> DC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >...and I'm highly suspicious it would be cheaper to buy one here.
:o)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Cheers,
>>>>> >Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64763 is a reply to message #64753] |
Tue, 21 February 2006 08:49 |
uptown jimmy
Messages: 441
Registered: September 2005
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Senior Member |
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I like that scenario a lot. It mkaes me feel more alive, somehow. I would
like to take my turn at prying the APC from her hands. Naughty, naughty
girl, she is.....
Jimmy
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:43fb262e@linux...
> Strewth!!! ;o) Tell us what you need. One morning you will wake up to an
> invitation to a pub. When you get to the pub, it will be packed with
people.
> All of your friends will be there (and the ones there that you've never
met
> will be us) and there will be this big cake and the band will start
playing
> hail to the Queen, when all of a sudden Naomi Watts will jump out of the
> cake, clad in leather weilding a bullwhip in one hand and and APC in the
> other It will then be up to you to errrrrrr......liberate it in whatevery
> way seems appropriate.
>
> This is the only condition I have for sending you APC money.
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43fab051$1@linux...
> >
> >
> > I can get an APC (RS?) 1500VA for $569:
> >
> > http://www.cpl.net.au/green_guide/984945502.pdf
> >
> > Or the APC RS 1000VA for $469. That would be plenty of mumbo, but I
assume
> > the 1500VA would keep it running for longer if power dropped out for a
> while.
> >
> > Or we can get a Powerware 5110 1000VA for $219, which is more the price
> range
> > I was thinking. Of course I want one that works properly. AVR sounds
good.
> > I'll check some specs when I get home.
> >
> > Obviously it's not such a big deal if 20 people put in $20 each instead
of
> > $10, as opposed to one person (me) forking out $500.
> >
> > ...and of course every $10 you guys put in becomes like $13 at this end.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kim.
> >
> > "DC" <dc@spamyermama.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >Yah, my first thought was to zip down to Fry's and send you a
> > >nice APC1500. That's what I use and it is super.
> > >
> > >Spend the extra though and get both a good brand and one with AVR
> (automatic
> > >voltage regulation) Let us help you pay for it,
> > >it is the least we can do.
> > >
> > >Tripplite is another option and while they don't tell you the aus.
> > >price on the site, they do have a rep assigned to you all.
> > >
> > >http://www.tripplite.com/worldwide/ordering.cfm
> > >
> > >best,
> > >
> > >DC
> > >
> > >
> > >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>The problem is that we're on a different voltage down here. We run
240V,
> > >>whereas you guys are on 110V, or is it 120V? Doesn't matter. Your gear
> > wont
> > >>run down here...
> > >>
> > >>...unless I was to get a 240-110 Stepdown transformer (which are about
> > $100
> > >>I think), and you were to ship me a 110V PC power supply to put in the
> > server,
> > >>but even then I need to run the router as well. I guess you could ship
> > me
> > >>a 12V 1A plugpack as well.
> > >>
> > >>Much as it sounds good in theory I think by the time you added up all
> the
> > >>extra bits like shipment, stepdown transformer and all the other bits
> and
> > >>peices that would be needed to cater to the voltage difference, it
> wouldn't
> > >>really be worth it.
> > >>
> > >>I'm sure I can find something for under $200 down here...
> > >>
> > >>Cheers,
> > >>Kim.
> > >>
> > >>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> > >>>I'll check to see what it would cost to ship APC to AUS. A good
friend
> > >here
> > >>>owns a UPS store and has other shipping providers as well. We've got
a
> > >>>CompUSA here and I've got 4 x of these unit powering my MECs ,
> computers,
> > >>>monitors, clocks, converters and anything else that would bite me if
I
> > >had
> > >>a
> > >>>power issue.
> >
>
>>> http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_cod e=298348&pfp=
> ext
> > >>>ernal&tabtype=rv#moreinfo
> > >>>One of these would be more than enough to protect a single server, I
> would
> > >>>think.
> > >>>
> > >>>Deej
> > >>>
> > >>>"DC" <dc@spamyermama.com> wrote in message news:43fa7db0$1@linux...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> No kidding.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I went to the APC website and units that we pay 225.00 USD
> > >>>> are like 1250.00 Aus.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Holy Cow! The exchange rate is about 1.35 Aus dollars to USD,
> > >>>> so that does not account for it. I hope you have some locally-
> > >>>> made ones that are good...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> DC
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> >...and I'm highly suspicious it would be cheaper to buy one here.
> :o)
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >Cheers,
> > >>>> >Kim.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64766 is a reply to message #64728] |
Tue, 21 February 2006 10:20 |
Larry Hogan
Messages: 17
Registered: June 2005
Location: Upstate New York
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Junior Member |
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Count me in, too. I might not post here much, but I read here all the time,
and would feel so much on an island should this community ever dry up. (And
I doubt if I'm the only one in either of those catagories.) Thanks!
Larry Hogan
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Me too.
>Rod
>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>>
>>I'm in, too. Just let me know when and how...:)
>>
>>
>>
>>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Same here
>>>>
>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You said it for Deej. Count me in for a few bucks.
>>>>>Tom
>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
>>>>>news:43fa0bde@linux...
>>>>> Me too. Without this site, I will die.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:43f9f743$1@linux...
>>>>> > I'm there.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Jimmy
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message =
>>>>>news:43f9e7d3$1@linux...
>>>>> > > Definitely, count me in for a few bucks
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Don
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > "Mike Audet" <johnwaynefan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> > > news:43f9d44c$1@linux...
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > I'd be happy to contribute to this.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > "DC" <dc@spamthemoon.com> wrote:
>>>>> > > >>
>>>>> > > >>Make sure you get one with automatic voltage regulation and
>>>>> > > >>enough range of compensation to deal with sags and spikes.
>>>>> > > >>
>>>>> > > >>That could be your problem. We put them on the DSP processors
>>>>> > > >>in our sound installs and they save a lot of service calls.
>>>>> > > >>
>>>>> > > >>And of course, make sure there is enough current capacity.
>>>>> > > >>
>>>>> > > >>Frankly, we should all help you buy this.
>>>>> > > >>
>>>>> > > >>
>>>>> > > >>DC
>>>>> > > >>
>>>>> > > >>
>>>>> > > >>
>>>>> > > >>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > > >>>
>>>>> > > >>>
>>>>> > > >>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable,
>>>=
>>>>>but of
>>>>> > > >>>course
>>>>> > > >>>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a
>=
>>>>>wonderous
>>>>> > UPS
>>>>> > > >>>on it... ;o)
>>>>> > > >>>
>>>>> > > >>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and
>>=
>>>>>when I
>>>>> > went
>>>>> > > >>>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the
UPS
>>>>=
>>>>>does
>>>>> > it's
>>>>> > > >>>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains
>>>>=
>>>>>at the
>>>>> > > >>>meter
>>>>> > > >>>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This
>>=
>>>>>power
>>>>> > glitch
>>>>> > > >>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would
make
>>>>=
>>>>>a
>>>>> > > >>>glitch...
>>>>> > > >>>
>>>>> > > >>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this
>>>>=
>>>>>house,
>>>>> > the
>>>>> > > >>>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power =
>>>>>glitches
>>>>> that
>>>>> > > > seem
>>>>> > > >>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS
>>>=
>>>>>enough
>>>>> to
>>>>> > > >>effect
>>>>> > > >>>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would
>>be
>>>>> enough
>>>>> > > > to
>>>>> > > >>>fix it.
>>>>> > > >>>
>>>>> > > >>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
>>>>> > > >>>
>>>>> > > >>>Cheers,
>>>>> > > >>>Kim.
>>>>> > > >>
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
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>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You said it for Deej. Count me in
=
>>>>>for a few=20
>>>>>bucks.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>>> <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
>>>>>_@animas.net</A>>=20
>>>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>>>> href=3D"news:43fa0bde@linux">news:43fa0bde@linux</A>...</DIV>Me too.
>>>=
>>>>>Without=20
>>>>> this site, I will die.<BR><BR><BR>"uptown jimmy" <<A=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D"mailto:johnson314@bellsouth.net">johnson314@bellsouth.net</A>>=
>>>>> wrote=20
>>>>> in message<BR><A=20
>>>>> href=3D"news:43f9f743$1@linux">news:43f9f743$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>>>>I'm=20
>>>>> there.<BR>><BR>> Jimmy<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Don Nafe" <<A =
>>>>>
>>>>> href=3D"mailto:dnafe@magma.ca">dnafe@magma.ca</A>> wrote in message
>>=
>>>>><A=20
>>>>> href=3D"news:43f9e7d3$1@linux">news:43f9e7d3$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>>>>>=20
>>>>> Definitely, count me in for a few bucks<BR>> ><BR>> > =
>>>>>Don<BR>>=20
>>>>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > "Mike Audet" <<A=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D"mailto:johnwaynefan@hotmail.com">johnwaynefan@hotmail.com</A>>=
>>>>> wrote=20
>>>>> in message<BR>> > <A=20
>>>>> href=3D"news:43f9d44c$1@linux">news:43f9d44c$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>>>>>=20
>>>>> ><BR>> > > I'd be happy to contribute to this.<BR>> =
>>>>>>=20
>>>>> ><BR>> > > "DC" <<A=20
>>>>> href=3D"mailto:dc@spamthemoon.com">dc@spamthemoon.com</A>> =
>>>>>wrote:<BR>>=20
>>>>> > >><BR>> > >>Make sure you get one with =
>>>>>automatic=20
>>>>> voltage regulation and<BR>> > >>enough range of =
>>>>>compensation to=20
>>>>> deal with sags and spikes.<BR>> > >><BR>> > =
>>>>>>>That=20
>>>>> could be your problem. We put them on the DSP =
>>>>>processors<BR>>=20
>>>>> > >>in our sound installs and they save a lot of service=20
>>>>> calls.<BR>> > >><BR>> > >>And of course, make =
>>>>>sure=20
>>>>> there is enough current capacity.<BR>> > >><BR>> >=20
>>>>> >>Frankly, we should all help you buy this.<BR>> >=20
>>>>> >><BR>> > >><BR>> > >>DC<BR>> >=20
>>>>> >><BR>> > >><BR>> > >><BR>> >=20
>>>>> >>"Kim" <<A=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
>>>>>=20
>>>>> wrote:<BR>> > >>><BR>> > >>><BR>> =
>>>>>>=20
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>>>>>unstable, but=20
>>>>> of<BR>> > >>>course<BR>> > >>>that =
>>>>>shouldn't be=20
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>>>>> I<BR>> went<BR>> > >>>to look at the server, "Uh =
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>>>>> >>>meter<BR>> > >>>box for a few seconds and =
>>>>>the=20
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>>>>> >>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would =
>>>>>make=20
>>>>> a<BR>> > >>>glitch...<BR>> > >>><BR>> =
>>>>>>=20
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>>>>>this=20
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>>>>>server.=20
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>>>>> > to<BR>> > >>>fix it.<BR>> > =
>>>>>>>><BR>>=20
>>>>> > >>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS =
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64776 is a reply to message #64700] |
Tue, 21 February 2006 12:59 |
Mark McDermott
Messages: 204
Registered: February 2006
Location: Portland, OR
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Senior Member |
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Kim,
It sounds like the duration of the low power condition is too short for the
current UPS to detect. In this case, an "online" UPS may be necessary.
The difference is that an "online" unit provides power from the battery 100%
of the time compared to a "standby" unit that kicks in a power inverter when
a brown or blackout condition is detected. Online units are more expensive
though.
Hope this helps!
Mark
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but of course
>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous UPS
>on it... ;o)
>
>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when I went
>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does it's
>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the meter
>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power glitch
>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a glitch...
>
>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house, the
>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches that seem
>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough to
effect
>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough to
>fix it.
>
>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64777 is a reply to message #64776] |
Tue, 21 February 2006 13:04 |
Rich[3]
Messages: 132
Registered: January 2006
|
Senior Member |
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Yep you need an online UPS - that's what we use here at Northwestern Mutual
(I'm on the systems team) for severs in area's were power is not clean.
"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>
>Kim,
>
>It sounds like the duration of the low power condition is too short for
the
>current UPS to detect. In this case, an "online" UPS may be necessary.
>
>The difference is that an "online" unit provides power from the battery
100%
>of the time compared to a "standby" unit that kicks in a power inverter
when
>a brown or blackout condition is detected. Online units are more expensive
>though.
>
>Hope this helps!
>
>Mark
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but of course
>>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous UPS
>>on it... ;o)
>>
>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when I went
>>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does it's
>>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the meter
>>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power glitch
>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a glitch...
>>
>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house, the
>>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches that
seem
>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough to
>effect
>>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough
to
>>fix it.
>>
>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64779 is a reply to message #64753] |
Tue, 21 February 2006 14:45 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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Nice use of the word "strewth"! I like it!
I'm gonna hold you to that. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Strewth!!! ;o) Tell us what you need. One morning you will wake up to an
>invitation to a pub. When you get to the pub, it will be packed with people.
>All of your friends will be there (and the ones there that you've never
met
>will be us) and there will be this big cake and the band will start playing
>hail to the Queen, when all of a sudden Naomi Watts will jump out of the
>cake, clad in leather weilding a bullwhip in one hand and and APC in the
>other It will then be up to you to errrrrrr......liberate it in whatevery
>way seems appropriate.
>
>This is the only condition I have for sending you APC money.
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43fab051$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> I can get an APC (RS?) 1500VA for $569:
>>
>> http://www.cpl.net.au/green_guide/984945502.pdf
>>
>> Or the APC RS 1000VA for $469. That would be plenty of mumbo, but I assume
>> the 1500VA would keep it running for longer if power dropped out for a
>while.
>>
>> Or we can get a Powerware 5110 1000VA for $219, which is more the price
>range
>> I was thinking. Of course I want one that works properly. AVR sounds good.
>> I'll check some specs when I get home.
>>
>> Obviously it's not such a big deal if 20 people put in $20 each instead
of
>> $10, as opposed to one person (me) forking out $500.
>>
>> ...and of course every $10 you guys put in becomes like $13 at this end.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "DC" <dc@spamyermama.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Yah, my first thought was to zip down to Fry's and send you a
>> >nice APC1500. That's what I use and it is super.
>> >
>> >Spend the extra though and get both a good brand and one with AVR
>(automatic
>> >voltage regulation) Let us help you pay for it,
>> >it is the least we can do.
>> >
>> >Tripplite is another option and while they don't tell you the aus.
>> >price on the site, they do have a rep assigned to you all.
>> >
>> >http://www.tripplite.com/worldwide/ordering.cfm
>> >
>> >best,
>> >
>> >DC
>> >
>> >
>> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>The problem is that we're on a different voltage down here. We run 240V,
>> >>whereas you guys are on 110V, or is it 120V? Doesn't matter. Your gear
>> wont
>> >>run down here...
>> >>
>> >>...unless I was to get a 240-110 Stepdown transformer (which are about
>> $100
>> >>I think), and you were to ship me a 110V PC power supply to put in the
>> server,
>> >>but even then I need to run the router as well. I guess you could ship
>> me
>> >>a 12V 1A plugpack as well.
>> >>
>> >>Much as it sounds good in theory I think by the time you added up all
>the
>> >>extra bits like shipment, stepdown transformer and all the other bits
>and
>> >>peices that would be needed to cater to the voltage difference, it
>wouldn't
>> >>really be worth it.
>> >>
>> >>I'm sure I can find something for under $200 down here...
>> >>
>> >>Cheers,
>> >>Kim.
>> >>
>> >>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >>>I'll check to see what it would cost to ship APC to AUS. A good friend
>> >here
>> >>>owns a UPS store and has other shipping providers as well. We've got
a
>> >>>CompUSA here and I've got 4 x of these unit powering my MECs ,
>computers,
>> >>>monitors, clocks, converters and anything else that would bite me if
I
>> >had
>> >>a
>> >>>power issue.
>>
>>>> http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_cod e=298348&pfp=
>ext
>> >>>ernal&tabtype=rv#moreinfo
>> >>>One of these would be more than enough to protect a single server,
I
>would
>> >>>think.
>> >>>
>> >>>Deej
>> >>>
>> >>>"DC" <dc@spamyermama.com> wrote in message news:43fa7db0$1@linux...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> No kidding.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I went to the APC website and units that we pay 225.00 USD
>> >>>> are like 1250.00 Aus.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Holy Cow! The exchange rate is about 1.35 Aus dollars to USD,
>> >>>> so that does not account for it. I hope you have some locally-
>> >>>> made ones that are good...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> DC
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >...and I'm highly suspicious it would be cheaper to buy one here.
>:o)
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >Cheers,
>> >>>> >Kim.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64782 is a reply to message #64776] |
Tue, 21 February 2006 14:50 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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OK, I'll keep that in mind also.
Whether it's like you say and the outage is too quick, or whether it's like
others have suggested and the outage is not big enough to cause the UPS to
kick in (but big enough to effect the server) is still a question...
Why couldn't I just live somewhere with better mains! ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>
>Kim,
>
>It sounds like the duration of the low power condition is too short for
the
>current UPS to detect. In this case, an "online" UPS may be necessary.
>
>The difference is that an "online" unit provides power from the battery
100%
>of the time compared to a "standby" unit that kicks in a power inverter
when
>a brown or blackout condition is detected. Online units are more expensive
>though.
>
>Hope this helps!
>
>Mark
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but of course
>>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous UPS
>>on it... ;o)
>>
>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when I went
>>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does it's
>>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the meter
>>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power glitch
>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a glitch...
>>
>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house, the
>>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches that
seem
>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough to
>effect
>>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough
to
>>fix it.
>>
>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64783 is a reply to message #64753] |
Tue, 21 February 2006 15:14 |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
|
Senior Member |
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I'll be there...
Martin H
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:43fb262e@linux...
> Strewth!!! ;o) Tell us what you need. One morning you will wake up to an
> invitation to a pub. When you get to the pub, it will be packed with
> people.
> All of your friends will be there (and the ones there that you've never
> met
> will be us) and there will be this big cake and the band will start
> playing
> hail to the Queen, when all of a sudden Naomi Watts will jump out of the
> cake, clad in leather weilding a bullwhip in one hand and and APC in the
> other It will then be up to you to errrrrrr......liberate it in whatevery
> way seems appropriate.
>
> This is the only condition I have for sending you APC money.
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43fab051$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> I can get an APC (RS?) 1500VA for $569:
>>
>> http://www.cpl.net.au/green_guide/984945502.pdf
>>
>> Or the APC RS 1000VA for $469. That would be plenty of mumbo, but I
>> assume
>> the 1500VA would keep it running for longer if power dropped out for a
> while.
>>
>> Or we can get a Powerware 5110 1000VA for $219, which is more the price
> range
>> I was thinking. Of course I want one that works properly. AVR sounds
>> good.
>> I'll check some specs when I get home.
>>
>> Obviously it's not such a big deal if 20 people put in $20 each instead
>> of
>> $10, as opposed to one person (me) forking out $500.
>>
>> ...and of course every $10 you guys put in becomes like $13 at this end.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "DC" <dc@spamyermama.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Yah, my first thought was to zip down to Fry's and send you a
>> >nice APC1500. That's what I use and it is super.
>> >
>> >Spend the extra though and get both a good brand and one with AVR
> (automatic
>> >voltage regulation) Let us help you pay for it,
>> >it is the least we can do.
>> >
>> >Tripplite is another option and while they don't tell you the aus.
>> >price on the site, they do have a rep assigned to you all.
>> >
>> >http://www.tripplite.com/worldwide/ordering.cfm
>> >
>> >best,
>> >
>> >DC
>> >
>> >
>> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>The problem is that we're on a different voltage down here. We run
>> >>240V,
>> >>whereas you guys are on 110V, or is it 120V? Doesn't matter. Your gear
>> wont
>> >>run down here...
>> >>
>> >>...unless I was to get a 240-110 Stepdown transformer (which are about
>> $100
>> >>I think), and you were to ship me a 110V PC power supply to put in the
>> server,
>> >>but even then I need to run the router as well. I guess you could ship
>> me
>> >>a 12V 1A plugpack as well.
>> >>
>> >>Much as it sounds good in theory I think by the time you added up all
> the
>> >>extra bits like shipment, stepdown transformer and all the other bits
> and
>> >>peices that would be needed to cater to the voltage difference, it
> wouldn't
>> >>really be worth it.
>> >>
>> >>I'm sure I can find something for under $200 down here...
>> >>
>> >>Cheers,
>> >>Kim.
>> >>
>> >>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >>>I'll check to see what it would cost to ship APC to AUS. A good friend
>> >here
>> >>>owns a UPS store and has other shipping providers as well. We've got a
>> >>>CompUSA here and I've got 4 x of these unit powering my MECs ,
> computers,
>> >>>monitors, clocks, converters and anything else that would bite me if I
>> >had
>> >>a
>> >>>power issue.
>>
>>>> http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_cod e=298348&pfp=
> ext
>> >>>ernal&tabtype=rv#moreinfo
>> >>>One of these would be more than enough to protect a single server, I
> would
>> >>>think.
>> >>>
>> >>>Deej
>> >>>
>> >>>"DC" <dc@spamyermama.com> wrote in message news:43fa7db0$1@linux...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> No kidding.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I went to the APC website and units that we pay 225.00 USD
>> >>>> are like 1250.00 Aus.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Holy Cow! The exchange rate is about 1.35 Aus dollars to USD,
>> >>>> so that does not account for it. I hope you have some locally-
>> >>>> made ones that are good...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> DC
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >...and I'm highly suspicious it would be cheaper to buy one here.
> :o)
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >Cheers,
>> >>>> >Kim.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64787 is a reply to message #64782] |
Tue, 21 February 2006 18:14 |
Edna Sloan
Messages: 304
Registered: October 2005
|
Senior Member |
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Yeah, just move. . . :-) I'm in.
Edna
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43fb8b1b$1@linux...
>
>
> OK, I'll keep that in mind also.
>
> Whether it's like you say and the outage is too quick, or whether it's
like
> others have suggested and the outage is not big enough to cause the UPS to
> kick in (but big enough to effect the server) is still a question...
>
> Why couldn't I just live somewhere with better mains! ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
> >
> >Kim,
> >
> >It sounds like the duration of the low power condition is too short for
> the
> >current UPS to detect. In this case, an "online" UPS may be necessary.
> >
> >The difference is that an "online" unit provides power from the battery
> 100%
> >of the time compared to a "standby" unit that kicks in a power inverter
> when
> >a brown or blackout condition is detected. Online units are more
expensive
> >though.
> >
> >Hope this helps!
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but of
course
> >>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous
UPS
> >>on it... ;o)
> >>
> >>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when I went
> >>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does it's
> >>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the
meter
> >>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power
glitch
> >>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a
glitch...
> >>
> >>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house,
the
> >>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches that
> seem
> >>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough to
> >effect
> >>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough
> to
> >>fix it.
> >>
> >>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>Kim.
> >
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64792 is a reply to message #64780] |
Tue, 21 February 2006 22:28 |
DC
Messages: 722
Registered: July 2005
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Senior Member |
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Within limits. The unit's specs will tell you what the voltage
range it can correct for is. AVR works well for us, but the
fluctuations are usually within 15% or so. Again, it depends on
the unit. Consider the range of voltage correction when you pick
a unit.
One of our clients tried to run a new, rather large sound system off
one 15-amp circuit that had other stuff on the same circuit (!)
We warned them, but they didn't want to spend any more money.
One day they turned on too much stuff at once and the speaker
DSP manager lost its program file and put out a spike that blew
up all their HF drivers. 4K later, they upgraded their mains power
and we put a good UPS on the processor. No problems since
Here, if you suspect fairly large voltage drops or spikes, the power
company can often be prevailed upon to put a monitor on your line
to diagnose what is going on. I don't know if your power co.
provides this service, but it might be worth a call to find out.
It would tell you what ranges you need to correct for, and you
never know, the sparkies may find a bad local transformer.
best,
DC
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I assume what DC is talking about, "AVR", means that it will actually do
>something about brown outs.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64793 is a reply to message #64792] |
Tue, 21 February 2006 22:50 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
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Don,
That's a great idea about the power company. I'll give them a call tonight.
If we're lucky, as you say, they'll find a fault in the street and will be
able to fix it and we wont have to spend a dime. (not that we have have dimes
down here ;o) I've never heard of anyone getting monitoring gear put on,
but then I've never known anybody with a problem like this.
Definately worth a shot. Fixing the power is by far the best way to fix the
problem.
Cheers,
Kim.
"DC" <dc@spamyermama.org> wrote:
>
>Within limits. The unit's specs will tell you what the voltage
>range it can correct for is. AVR works well for us, but the
>fluctuations are usually within 15% or so. Again, it depends on
>the unit. Consider the range of voltage correction when you pick
>a unit.
>
>One of our clients tried to run a new, rather large sound system off
>one 15-amp circuit that had other stuff on the same circuit (!)
>We warned them, but they didn't want to spend any more money.
>One day they turned on too much stuff at once and the speaker
>DSP manager lost its program file and put out a spike that blew
>up all their HF drivers. 4K later, they upgraded their mains power
>and we put a good UPS on the processor. No problems since
>
>Here, if you suspect fairly large voltage drops or spikes, the power
>company can often be prevailed upon to put a monitor on your line
>to diagnose what is going on. I don't know if your power co.
>provides this service, but it might be worth a call to find out.
>It would tell you what ranges you need to correct for, and you
>never know, the sparkies may find a bad local transformer.
>
>best,
>
>DC
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I assume what DC is talking about, "AVR", means that it will actually do
>>something about brown outs.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>
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