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| Re: I am really liking this MADI system [message #91089 is a reply to message #91085] |
Sat, 06 October 2007 19:22   |
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Nice Job DJ!! ..But, remember PTHD run circles (Sorry James) arounf PTHD on
a comprible mac. Letting you run your UAD (via fx wrap) if you want to.
So, you would not have to purchase a new PC. he PC(s) you are are more than
enough..
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>There have been a few clocking challenges but these have been resolved.
This
>system is very streamlined and works well at low latencies. I'm working
at
>3ms with ASIO direct monitor ing disabled and very little CPU load. It's
>interesting that I could hear latency at 3ms with my HDSP 9652 but not with
>this card. I con't really understand how tha could be, unless I had
>something screwey going on with my driver load or some other routing
>wierdness. Well, anyway, things are looking better here than they have in
a
>while. I must admit that PTHD system with the new controller looks nice,
but
>for $18k plus the computer to run it, I think the MADI running on Cubase
4
>with a bunch of UAD-1 cards is a mighty nice alternative.
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>I may build myself a little bit heftier computer just to insure enough
>horsepower when dubbing projects that already are at fairly high track
>counts with processors loading the system down and call it good.
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>I wonder if there are any mobos with PCI slots that will handle Intel quads
>and are compaible with UAD-1 cards.
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| Re: I am really liking this MADI system [message #91095 is a reply to message #91085] |
Sat, 06 October 2007 21:15 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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DJ - I won't guarantee great success with it. There were few options with 3
PCI slots, and in hindsight (not being able to use but 2), I might have
looked at something else. Imho, if you aren't all PCIe at this point, it's
a bit of a crap shoot trying to get a great board. The Asus boards do seem
to get mixed reviews, but most PCI boards I looked at did as well.
The P5W is running well for guys with firewire audio (FF800) and 2 UAD-1s.
I get some glitches with graphic movement at certain latencies (e.g.
dragging the timeline in the Nuendo arrange window during playback), but
it's inconsistent and hasn't been a showstopper (I have a PCIe XFX GeForce
dual head DVI). I wouldn't call it a great board, but I think this is a bit
of a transition period with boards.
I also haven't upgraded BIOS, but it's a later rev anyway.
Regards,
Dedric
On 10/6/07 9:13 PM, in article 47085053$1@linux, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas
_ dot _ net> wrote:
> Hmmmm...thanks Dedric. there are lots of nightmare reviews of the mobo on
> NewEgg. Seems pretty buggy with mixed results of having a bios upgrade solve
> the problems. that said, the bugginess seems to be RAID relqated and I'm not
> using RAID arrays so it might be worth a shot.
>
> I've got everything here to build one except the CPU, mobo and
> RAM.....oh.oops...I'm gonna need a compatible dual head PCIe vid card too.
>
> .
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
> news:C32DA82F.D5A6%dterry@keyofd.net...
>> The Asus P5W DH Deluxe has 3 PCI (though you can only use 2 due to IRQ
>> sharing), and 3 PCIe, and is quad core compatible, if you only need a
>> single
>> quad core.
>>
>> Haven't tried it with a Magma or SBS though.
>>
>> Dedric
>>
>> On 10/6/07 7:39 PM, in article 470838bf$1@linux, "Chris Ludwig"
>> <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
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>>>
>>> Hi Dj,
>>>
>>>> I wonder if there are any mobos with PCI slots that will handle Intel
>>>> quads
>>>
>>>> and are compaible with UAD-1 cards.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: I am really liking this MADI system [message #91096 is a reply to message #91095] |
Sat, 06 October 2007 23:30 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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The Magma chassis' I'm using are both capable of using the newer Magma PCIe
host card. These cost $300.00, but I've got a pretty good rapport with the
folks at Magma. I'm sure they would refund me the price of the card if I
bought one and it didn't work. I'm thinking that I might buy one of the PCIe
host cards and try one of the latest/greatest mobos. Most of them have at
least one legacy PCI slot for the other Magma.
..
"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
news:C32DB982.D5B4%dterry@keyofd.net...
> DJ - I won't guarantee great success with it. There were few options with
> 3
> PCI slots, and in hindsight (not being able to use but 2), I might have
> looked at something else. Imho, if you aren't all PCIe at this point,
> it's
> a bit of a crap shoot trying to get a great board. The Asus boards do
> seem
> to get mixed reviews, but most PCI boards I looked at did as well.
>
> The P5W is running well for guys with firewire audio (FF800) and 2 UAD-1s.
> I get some glitches with graphic movement at certain latencies (e.g.
> dragging the timeline in the Nuendo arrange window during playback), but
> it's inconsistent and hasn't been a showstopper (I have a PCIe XFX GeForce
> dual head DVI). I wouldn't call it a great board, but I think this is a
> bit
> of a transition period with boards.
>
> I also haven't upgraded BIOS, but it's a later rev anyway.
>
> Regards,
> Dedric
>
> On 10/6/07 9:13 PM, in article 47085053$1@linux, "DJ" <animix _ at _
> animas
> _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>> Hmmmm...thanks Dedric. there are lots of nightmare reviews of the mobo on
>> NewEgg. Seems pretty buggy with mixed results of having a bios upgrade
>> solve
>> the problems. that said, the bugginess seems to be RAID relqated and I'm
>> not
>> using RAID arrays so it might be worth a shot.
>>
>> I've got everything here to build one except the CPU, mobo and
>> RAM.....oh.oops...I'm gonna need a compatible dual head PCIe vid card
>> too.
>>
>> .
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>> news:C32DA82F.D5A6%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>> The Asus P5W DH Deluxe has 3 PCI (though you can only use 2 due to IRQ
>>> sharing), and 3 PCIe, and is quad core compatible, if you only need a
>>> single
>>> quad core.
>>>
>>> Haven't tried it with a Magma or SBS though.
>>>
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>> On 10/6/07 7:39 PM, in article 470838bf$1@linux, "Chris Ludwig"
>>> <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Dj,
>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if there are any mobos with PCI slots that will handle Intel
>>>>> quads
>>>>
>>>>> and are compaible with UAD-1 cards.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: I am really liking this MADI system [message #91102 is a reply to message #91089] |
Sun, 07 October 2007 07:37 |
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"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
PTHD runs better on PC? I hadn't heard that. How about latency compensation
when using the UAD-1 plugs in PT?
Gantt
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>Nice Job DJ!! ..But, remember PTHD run circles (Sorry James) arounf PTHD
on
>a comprible mac. Letting you run your UAD (via fx wrap) if you want to.
>
>So, you would not have to purchase a new PC. he PC(s) you are are more than
>enough..
>
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: I am really liking this MADI system [message #91104 is a reply to message #91102] |
Sun, 07 October 2007 08:16 |
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It True Gannt.. Back in 2001, when Microsoft bail Avid out debt, MS gave Avid
some of their in-house talent for the sole purpose of making Pro Tools world-class
on a PC.
Also, when Apple introduced Final Cut Pro,and started taking marketing share
from Advid and the looming rumor of Apple partnering or purchaing on the
DAW makers app, Avid/Digi told all of their 'Mac-only' plugin partners that
they had to get their plugins over on the PC platform...Why??
I heard that after the Final cut pro success and then Emagic purchase, that
Avid/Digi were worried that Apple would either cripple or stop supporting
any other MAc DAW on their new Machines.
So, back to MS..Microsoft poured a lot of money into digi. WHat came out
it was : 1) Stable WDM drivers, RTAS.. 2)Avid pro whatever for PC..
It's said that MS owns up to 49 percent of Avid. MS wanted to be in the Pro
Audio/Media Business without appearing to be in the lead position , due to
all of the anti-trust lawsuits being waged against them. But,make no mistakes..$Microsoft's
money is what fueled Pro Tools market position. And, if you notice Avid today,
they are using MS's business model..Which is to agresivly aquire competiotrs
that offer technologies that they did not:
-M-Audio-World class PC Pro-audio driver makers.
-Wizoo-World Class VSti/plugin makers
-Abelton- World clas eleastic audio engine.
Gannt all anyone has to do to see the performance difference btw a Mac and
PC running Pro Tools is to Purchase a copy of M-powered pro tools, compare
it to M-Powered or LE on a mac.
Next, see who many plugins can you open up..Big difference. But.Mac only
folks when they witness this, are shocked beyond belife.. Because they have
been told that teh Mac is soo superior to a PC.
So, yes, Pro Tools HD on a killer PC is way faster than any Mac. Due to the
Code beign more PC friendlier than OS-X.
It's just that more long time Pro Tools users were mac users. Pro Tools saw
the exact same CPU horsepower difference btw Mac & PC as we all witnessed
the last 8 years.
It's not talked about because, MAc folks are just that Mac folks.
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
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>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>PTHD runs better on PC? I hadn't heard that. How about latency compensation
>when using the UAD-1 plugs in PT?
>
>Gantt
>
>>
>>Nice Job DJ!! ..But, remember PTHD run circles (Sorry James) arounf PTHD
>on
>>a comprible mac. Letting you run your UAD (via fx wrap) if you want to.
>>
>>So, you would not have to purchase a new PC. he PC(s) you are are more
than
>>enough..
>>
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| Re: I am really liking this MADI system [message #91105 is a reply to message #91096] |
Sun, 07 October 2007 08:22 |
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My Latest PC was built using this Mobo It's a 939. I'm running a dual-core
opteron . I purchased it new off ebay for $120. I won;t buy any more boards
form Newg-egg. Too many problems. But, this is a great board ..#PCI slots,
PCie(s)..Sata ..Stable, but very fast..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168131511 55&ATT=13-151-155&CMP=KNC-AdwordsFeeder
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>The Magma chassis' I'm using are both capable of using the newer Magma PCIe
>host card. These cost $300.00, but I've got a pretty good rapport with the
>folks at Magma. I'm sure they would refund me the price of the card if I
>bought one and it didn't work. I'm thinking that I might buy one of the
PCIe
>host cards and try one of the latest/greatest mobos. Most of them have at
>least one legacy PCI slot for the other Magma.
>
>
>.
>
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>news:C32DB982.D5B4%dterry@keyofd.net...
>> DJ - I won't guarantee great success with it. There were few options
with
>> 3
>> PCI slots, and in hindsight (not being able to use but 2), I might have
>> looked at something else. Imho, if you aren't all PCIe at this point,
>> it's
>> a bit of a crap shoot trying to get a great board. The Asus boards do
>> seem
>> to get mixed reviews, but most PCI boards I looked at did as well.
>>
>> The P5W is running well for guys with firewire audio (FF800) and 2 UAD-1s.
>> I get some glitches with graphic movement at certain latencies (e.g.
>> dragging the timeline in the Nuendo arrange window during playback), but
>> it's inconsistent and hasn't been a showstopper (I have a PCIe XFX GeForce
>> dual head DVI). I wouldn't call it a great board, but I think this is
a
>> bit
>> of a transition period with boards.
>>
>> I also haven't upgraded BIOS, but it's a later rev anyway.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dedric
>>
>> On 10/6/07 9:13 PM, in article 47085053$1@linux, "DJ" <animix _ at _
>> animas
>> _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hmmmm...thanks Dedric. there are lots of nightmare reviews of the mobo
on
>>> NewEgg. Seems pretty buggy with mixed results of having a bios upgrade
>>> solve
>>> the problems. that said, the bugginess seems to be RAID relqated and
I'm
>>> not
>>> using RAID arrays so it might be worth a shot.
>>>
>>> I've got everything here to build one except the CPU, mobo and
>>> RAM.....oh.oops...I'm gonna need a compatible dual head PCIe vid card
>>> too.
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>> news:C32DA82F.D5A6%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>>> The Asus P5W DH Deluxe has 3 PCI (though you can only use 2 due to IRQ
>>>> sharing), and 3 PCIe, and is quad core compatible, if you only need
a
>>>> single
>>>> quad core.
>>>>
>>>> Haven't tried it with a Magma or SBS though.
>>>>
>>>> Dedric
>>>>
>>>> On 10/6/07 7:39 PM, in article 470838bf$1@linux, "Chris Ludwig"
>>>> <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dj,
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder if there are any mobos with PCI slots that will handle Intel
>>>>>> quads
>>>>>
>>>>>> and are compaible with UAD-1 cards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: I am really liking this MADI system [message #91111 is a reply to message #91105] |
Sun, 07 October 2007 12:40 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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I'm also using a 939 mobo (Gigabyte GA K8NS Ultra 939) running an Opteron
185. It's a little screamer. Extremely simpatico with UAD-1 cards
too....probably the best 939 mobo for UAD-1 cards. It uses the NForce3
chipset and, of course, like everything else I have here, is discontinued
;).
I am actually running two identical machines and linking them via Steiny
systemlink. I did some more critical listening last night and decided that I
will stay with ASIO direct monitoring after all. Even 1.5 ms latency (along
with the appx 1.5 ms inherent in AD/DA conversion) is audible enough to my
ears to leave a bad taste in my mouth. I'm going to wait until things sort
themselves out to the point where I can run flat out at 32 sample buffer
settings (which are actually using 64 samples with the RME cards). That will
get me below 3ms "true" latency and that's something I can live with.
Unfortunately, my Opteron 185 will choke at 32 sample buffers when
track/plugin counts start climbing.
Using ASIO direct monitoring isn't a problem the way I've got things routed
right now. I'm splitting off the headphone output of the MADI card to a
Mackie 1402 and distributing this to the stereo main input of my Furman HDS
16 unit using the ALT 3/4 settings of the mackie. this way everyone who is
tracking on the 4 x remote mixers can have a feed of the main mix plus a 1:1
of all tracks being recorded. the 1402 is sending the main outs to a pair of
CR monitors and the CR headphones. It's pretty bulletproof while tracking
now. No latency at all to mess with. All I do is drop the recorded tracks to
to folder tracks which allows me to quickly switch them off the
monitor/record settings and I'm good. It's like being able to use the Cubase
CR function with ASIO Direct monitoring enabled. The only limitation is not
being able to monitor plugins on tracks being recorded, but that's not an
issue really. I use hardware reverbs on the send/returns of each Furman HRM
16 remote mixer so each performer gets to dial in his/her own mis anyway.
Sweet!
Deej
"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:4708f9bf$1@linux...
>
> My Latest PC was built using this Mobo It's a 939. I'm running a dual-core
> opteron . I purchased it new off ebay for $120. I won;t buy any more
> boards
> form Newg-egg. Too many problems. But, this is a great board ..#PCI
> slots,
> PCie(s)..Sata ..Stable, but very fast..
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168131511 55&ATT=13-151-155&CMP=KNC-AdwordsFeeder
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>The Magma chassis' I'm using are both capable of using the newer Magma
>>PCIe
>
>>host card. These cost $300.00, but I've got a pretty good rapport with the
>
>>folks at Magma. I'm sure they would refund me the price of the card if I
>
>>bought one and it didn't work. I'm thinking that I might buy one of the
> PCIe
>>host cards and try one of the latest/greatest mobos. Most of them have at
>
>>least one legacy PCI slot for the other Magma.
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>>
>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>news:C32DB982.D5B4%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>> DJ - I won't guarantee great success with it. There were few options
> with
>>> 3
>>> PCI slots, and in hindsight (not being able to use but 2), I might have
>>> looked at something else. Imho, if you aren't all PCIe at this point,
>
>>> it's
>>> a bit of a crap shoot trying to get a great board. The Asus boards do
>
>>> seem
>>> to get mixed reviews, but most PCI boards I looked at did as well.
>>>
>>> The P5W is running well for guys with firewire audio (FF800) and 2
>>> UAD-1s.
>>> I get some glitches with graphic movement at certain latencies (e.g.
>>> dragging the timeline in the Nuendo arrange window during playback), but
>>> it's inconsistent and hasn't been a showstopper (I have a PCIe XFX
>>> GeForce
>>> dual head DVI). I wouldn't call it a great board, but I think this is
> a
>>> bit
>>> of a transition period with boards.
>>>
>>> I also haven't upgraded BIOS, but it's a later rev anyway.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>> On 10/6/07 9:13 PM, in article 47085053$1@linux, "DJ" <animix _ at _
>>> animas
>>> _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hmmmm...thanks Dedric. there are lots of nightmare reviews of the mobo
> on
>>>> NewEgg. Seems pretty buggy with mixed results of having a bios upgrade
>
>>>> solve
>>>> the problems. that said, the bugginess seems to be RAID relqated and
> I'm
>>>> not
>>>> using RAID arrays so it might be worth a shot.
>>>>
>>>> I've got everything here to build one except the CPU, mobo and
>>>> RAM.....oh.oops...I'm gonna need a compatible dual head PCIe vid card
>
>>>> too.
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:C32DA82F.D5A6%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>>>> The Asus P5W DH Deluxe has 3 PCI (though you can only use 2 due to IRQ
>>>>> sharing), and 3 PCIe, and is quad core compatible, if you only need
> a
>>>>> single
>>>>> quad core.
>>>>>
>>>>> Haven't tried it with a Magma or SBS though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/6/07 7:39 PM, in article 470838bf$1@linux, "Chris Ludwig"
>>>>> <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Dj,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wonder if there are any mobos with PCI slots that will handle
>>>>>>> Intel
>>>>>>> quads
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and are compaible with UAD-1 cards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: I am really liking this MADI system [message #91113 is a reply to message #91111] |
Sun, 07 October 2007 19:10 |
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Sweet.. Like I said before, adding a mixer in Mative mix, solves alot of
issues.
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>I'm also using a 939 mobo (Gigabyte GA K8NS Ultra 939) running an Opteron
>185. It's a little screamer. Extremely simpatico with UAD-1 cards
>too....probably the best 939 mobo for UAD-1 cards. It uses the NForce3
>chipset and, of course, like everything else I have here, is discontinued
>;).
>
>I am actually running two identical machines and linking them via Steiny
>systemlink. I did some more critical listening last night and decided that
I
>will stay with ASIO direct monitoring after all. Even 1.5 ms latency (along
>with the appx 1.5 ms inherent in AD/DA conversion) is audible enough to
my
>ears to leave a bad taste in my mouth. I'm going to wait until things sort
>themselves out to the point where I can run flat out at 32 sample buffer
>settings (which are actually using 64 samples with the RME cards). That
will
>get me below 3ms "true" latency and that's something I can live with.
>Unfortunately, my Opteron 185 will choke at 32 sample buffers when
>track/plugin counts start climbing.
>
>Using ASIO direct monitoring isn't a problem the way I've got things routed
>right now. I'm splitting off the headphone output of the MADI card to a
>Mackie 1402 and distributing this to the stereo main input of my Furman
HDS
>16 unit using the ALT 3/4 settings of the mackie. this way everyone who
is
>tracking on the 4 x remote mixers can have a feed of the main mix plus a
1:1
>of all tracks being recorded. the 1402 is sending the main outs to a pair
of
>CR monitors and the CR headphones. It's pretty bulletproof while tracking
>now. No latency at all to mess with. All I do is drop the recorded tracks
to
>to folder tracks which allows me to quickly switch them off the
>monitor/record settings and I'm good. It's like being able to use the Cubase
>CR function with ASIO Direct monitoring enabled. The only limitation is
not
>being able to monitor plugins on tracks being recorded, but that's not an
>issue really. I use hardware reverbs on the send/returns of each Furman
HRM
>16 remote mixer so each performer gets to dial in his/her own mis anyway.
>Sweet!
>
>Deej
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:4708f9bf$1@linux...
>>
>> My Latest PC was built using this Mobo It's a 939. I'm running a dual-core
>> opteron . I purchased it new off ebay for $120. I won;t buy any more
>> boards
>> form Newg-egg. Too many problems. But, this is a great board ..#PCI
>> slots,
>> PCie(s)..Sata ..Stable, but very fast..
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168131511 55&ATT=13-151-155&CMP=KNC-AdwordsFeeder
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>The Magma chassis' I'm using are both capable of using the newer Magma
>>>PCIe
>>
>>>host card. These cost $300.00, but I've got a pretty good rapport with
the
>>
>>>folks at Magma. I'm sure they would refund me the price of the card if
I
>>
>>>bought one and it didn't work. I'm thinking that I might buy one of the
>> PCIe
>>>host cards and try one of the latest/greatest mobos. Most of them have
at
>>
>>>least one legacy PCI slot for the other Magma.
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>>news:C32DB982.D5B4%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>>> DJ - I won't guarantee great success with it. There were few options
>> with
>>>> 3
>>>> PCI slots, and in hindsight (not being able to use but 2), I might have
>>>> looked at something else. Imho, if you aren't all PCIe at this point,
>>
>>>> it's
>>>> a bit of a crap shoot trying to get a great board. The Asus boards
do
>>
>>>> seem
>>>> to get mixed reviews, but most PCI boards I looked at did as well.
>>>>
>>>> The P5W is running well for guys with firewire audio (FF800) and 2
>>>> UAD-1s.
>>>> I get some glitches with graphic movement at certain latencies (e.g.
>>>> dragging the timeline in the Nuendo arrange window during playback),
but
>>>> it's inconsistent and hasn't been a showstopper (I have a PCIe XFX
>>>> GeForce
>>>> dual head DVI). I wouldn't call it a great board, but I think this
is
>> a
>>>> bit
>>>> of a transition period with boards.
>>>>
>>>> I also haven't upgraded BIOS, but it's a later rev anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dedric
>>>>
>>>> On 10/6/07 9:13 PM, in article 47085053$1@linux, "DJ" <animix _ at _
>>>> animas
>>>> _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hmmmm...thanks Dedric. there are lots of nightmare reviews of the mobo
>> on
>>>>> NewEgg. Seems pretty buggy with mixed results of having a bios upgrade
>>
>>>>> solve
>>>>> the problems. that said, the bugginess seems to be RAID relqated and
>> I'm
>>>>> not
>>>>> using RAID arrays so it might be worth a shot.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've got everything here to build one except the CPU, mobo and
>>>>> RAM.....oh.oops...I'm gonna need a compatible dual head PCIe vid card
>>
>>>>> too.
>>>>>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:C32DA82F.D5A6%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>>>>> The Asus P5W DH Deluxe has 3 PCI (though you can only use 2 due to
IRQ
>>>>>> sharing), and 3 PCIe, and is quad core compatible, if you only need
>> a
>>>>>> single
>>>>>> quad core.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Haven't tried it with a Magma or SBS though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/6/07 7:39 PM, in article 470838bf$1@linux, "Chris Ludwig"
>>>>>> <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Dj,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wonder if there are any mobos with PCI slots that will handle
>>>>>>>> Intel
>>>>>>>> quads
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and are compaible with UAD-1 cards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: I am really liking this MADI system [message #91115 is a reply to message #91104] |
Sun, 07 October 2007 20:04 |
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And I'm such a naive little Mac Dude that I've been laboring under the delusion
that PT was more stable and powerful on a Mac.
So, is the future of Pro Audio going to be on a PC?
Gantt
"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>It True Gannt.. Back in 2001, when Microsoft bail Avid out debt, MS gave
Avid
>some of their in-house talent for the sole purpose of making Pro Tools world-class
>on a PC.
>
>Also, when Apple introduced Final Cut Pro,and started taking marketing share
>from Advid and the looming rumor of Apple partnering or purchaing on the
>DAW makers app, Avid/Digi told all of their 'Mac-only' plugin partners that
>they had to get their plugins over on the PC platform...Why??
>
>I heard that after the Final cut pro success and then Emagic purchase, that
>Avid/Digi were worried that Apple would either cripple or stop supporting
>any other MAc DAW on their new Machines.
>
>So, back to MS..Microsoft poured a lot of money into digi. WHat came out
>it was : 1) Stable WDM drivers, RTAS.. 2)Avid pro whatever for PC..
>
>It's said that MS owns up to 49 percent of Avid. MS wanted to be in the
Pro
>Audio/Media Business without appearing to be in the lead position , due
to
>all of the anti-trust lawsuits being waged against them. But,make no mistakes..$Microsoft's
>money is what fueled Pro Tools market position. And, if you notice Avid
today,
>they are using MS's business model..Which is to agresivly aquire competiotrs
>that offer technologies that they did not:
>
>-M-Audio-World class PC Pro-audio driver makers.
>-Wizoo-World Class VSti/plugin makers
>-Abelton- World clas eleastic audio engine.
>
>Gannt all anyone has to do to see the performance difference btw a Mac and
>PC running Pro Tools is to Purchase a copy of M-powered pro tools, compare
>it to M-Powered or LE on a mac.
>
>Next, see who many plugins can you open up..Big difference. But.Mac only
>folks when they witness this, are shocked beyond belife.. Because they have
>been told that teh Mac is soo superior to a PC.
>
>So, yes, Pro Tools HD on a killer PC is way faster than any Mac. Due to
the
>Code beign more PC friendlier than OS-X.
>
>
>It's just that more long time Pro Tools users were mac users. Pro Tools
saw
>the exact same CPU horsepower difference btw Mac & PC as we all witnessed
>the last 8 years.
>
>It's not talked about because, MAc folks are just that Mac folks.
>
>
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>PTHD runs better on PC? I hadn't heard that. How about latency compensation
>>when using the UAD-1 plugs in PT?
>>
>>Gantt
>>
>>>
>>>Nice Job DJ!! ..But, remember PTHD run circles (Sorry James) arounf PTHD
>>on
>>>a comprible mac. Letting you run your UAD (via fx wrap) if you want to.
>>>
>>>So, you would not have to purchase a new PC. he PC(s) you are are more
>than
>>>enough..
>>>
>>
>
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: I am really liking this MADI system [message #91130 is a reply to message #91115] |
Mon, 08 October 2007 02:20 |
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No..Of course not..I was just explaining that Pro Tools HD,LE,M-Powered run
flawlessy on a PC as well as a Mac. But, up until the current crop of mac
(Intels), the PC ran circles around the Mac running Pro Tools (Any version)..Now,
it's a wash.
As for Mac version being more stable. Nope. The Mac verison will crash on
Pro Tools just as often as the PC version. My personal experiences have been
that Pro Tools on OS9 was very stable..Not so with OSX. Iwould say that PT
on Win XP is more stable than OS-X and more robust.
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>And I'm such a naive little Mac Dude that I've been laboring under the delusion
>that PT was more stable and powerful on a Mac.
>
>So, is the future of Pro Audio going to be on a PC?
>
>Gantt
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>It True Gannt.. Back in 2001, when Microsoft bail Avid out debt, MS gave
>Avid
>>some of their in-house talent for the sole purpose of making Pro Tools
world-class
>>on a PC.
>>
>>Also, when Apple introduced Final Cut Pro,and started taking marketing
share
>>from Advid and the looming rumor of Apple partnering or purchaing on the
>>DAW makers app, Avid/Digi told all of their 'Mac-only' plugin partners
that
>>they had to get their plugins over on the PC platform...Why??
>>
>>I heard that after the Final cut pro success and then Emagic purchase,
that
>>Avid/Digi were worried that Apple would either cripple or stop supporting
>>any other MAc DAW on their new Machines.
>>
>>So, back to MS..Microsoft poured a lot of money into digi. WHat came out
>>it was : 1) Stable WDM drivers, RTAS.. 2)Avid pro whatever for PC..
>>
>>It's said that MS owns up to 49 percent of Avid. MS wanted to be in the
>Pro
>>Audio/Media Business without appearing to be in the lead position , due
>to
>>all of the anti-trust lawsuits being waged against them. But,make no mistakes..$Microsoft's
>>money is what fueled Pro Tools market position. And, if you notice Avid
>today,
>>they are using MS's business model..Which is to agresivly aquire competiotrs
>>that offer technologies that they did not:
>>
>>-M-Audio-World class PC Pro-audio driver makers.
>>-Wizoo-World Class VSti/plugin makers
>>-Abelton- World clas eleastic audio engine.
>>
>>Gannt all anyone has to do to see the performance difference btw a Mac
and
>>PC running Pro Tools is to Purchase a copy of M-powered pro tools, compare
>>it to M-Powered or LE on a mac.
>>
>>Next, see who many plugins can you open up..Big difference. But.Mac only
>>folks when they witness this, are shocked beyond belife.. Because they
have
>>been told that teh Mac is soo superior to a PC.
>>
>>So, yes, Pro Tools HD on a killer PC is way faster than any Mac. Due to
>the
>>Code beign more PC friendlier than OS-X.
>>
>>
>>It's just that more long time Pro Tools users were mac users. Pro Tools
>saw
>>the exact same CPU horsepower difference btw Mac & PC as we all witnessed
>>the last 8 years.
>>
>>It's not talked about because, MAc folks are just that Mac folks.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>PTHD runs better on PC? I hadn't heard that. How about latency compensation
>>>when using the UAD-1 plugs in PT?
>>>
>>>Gantt
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nice Job DJ!! ..But, remember PTHD run circles (Sorry James) arounf PTHD
>>>on
>>>>a comprible mac. Letting you run your UAD (via fx wrap) if you want to.
>>>>
>>>>So, you would not have to purchase a new PC. he PC(s) you are are more
>>than
>>>>enough..
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: I am really liking this MADI system [message #91133 is a reply to message #91130] |
Mon, 08 October 2007 05:58 |
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It'd be interesting for someone with PTHD and a new Intel Mac to do some benchmark
testing between running OS X and Windows...
Gantt
"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>No..Of course not..I was just explaining that Pro Tools HD,LE,M-Powered
run
>flawlessy on a PC as well as a Mac. But, up until the current crop of mac
>(Intels), the PC ran circles around the Mac running Pro Tools (Any version)..Now,
>it's a wash.
>
>As for Mac version being more stable. Nope. The Mac verison will crash on
>Pro Tools just as often as the PC version. My personal experiences have
been
>that Pro Tools on OS9 was very stable..Not so with OSX. Iwould say that
PT
>on Win XP is more stable than OS-X and more robust.
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>And I'm such a naive little Mac Dude that I've been laboring under the
delusion
>>that PT was more stable and powerful on a Mac.
>>
>>So, is the future of Pro Audio going to be on a PC?
>>
>>Gantt
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>It True Gannt.. Back in 2001, when Microsoft bail Avid out debt, MS gave
>>Avid
>>>some of their in-house talent for the sole purpose of making Pro Tools
>world-class
>>>on a PC.
>>>
>>>Also, when Apple introduced Final Cut Pro,and started taking marketing
>share
>>>from Advid and the looming rumor of Apple partnering or purchaing on the
>>>DAW makers app, Avid/Digi told all of their 'Mac-only' plugin partners
>that
>>>they had to get their plugins over on the PC platform...Why??
>>>
>>>I heard that after the Final cut pro success and then Emagic purchase,
>that
>>>Avid/Digi were worried that Apple would either cripple or stop supporting
>>>any other MAc DAW on their new Machines.
>>>
>>>So, back to MS..Microsoft poured a lot of money into digi. WHat came out
>>>it was : 1) Stable WDM drivers, RTAS.. 2)Avid pro whatever for PC..
>>>
>>>It's said that MS owns up to 49 percent of Avid. MS wanted to be in the
>>Pro
>>>Audio/Media Business without appearing to be in the lead position , due
>>to
>>>all of the anti-trust lawsuits being waged against them. But,make no mistakes..$Microsoft's
>>>money is what fueled Pro Tools market position. And, if you notice Avid
>>today,
>>>they are using MS's business model..Which is to agresivly aquire competiotrs
>>>that offer technologies that they did not:
>>>
>>>-M-Audio-World class PC Pro-audio driver makers.
>>>-Wizoo-World Class VSti/plugin makers
>>>-Abelton- World clas eleastic audio engine.
>>>
>>>Gannt all anyone has to do to see the performance difference btw a Mac
>and
>>>PC running Pro Tools is to Purchase a copy of M-powered pro tools, compare
>>>it to M-Powered or LE on a mac.
>>>
>>>Next, see who many plugins can you open up..Big difference. But.Mac only
>>>folks when they witness this, are shocked beyond belife.. Because they
>have
>>>been told that teh Mac is soo superior to a PC.
>>>
>>>So, yes, Pro Tools HD on a killer PC is way faster than any Mac. Due to
>>the
>>>Code beign more PC friendlier than OS-X.
>>>
>>>
>>>It's just that more long time Pro Tools users were mac users. Pro Tools
>>saw
>>>the exact same CPU horsepower difference btw Mac & PC as we all witnessed
>>>the last 8 years.
>>>
>>>It's not talked about because, MAc folks are just that Mac folks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>PTHD runs better on PC? I hadn't heard that. How about latency compensation
>>>>when using the UAD-1 plugs in PT?
>>>>
>>>>Gantt
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Nice Job DJ!! ..But, remember PTHD run circles (Sorry James) arounf
PTHD
>>>>on
>>>>>a comprible mac. Letting you run your UAD (via fx wrap) if you want
to.
>>>>>
>>>>>So, you would not have to purchase a new PC. he PC(s) you are are more
>>>than
>>>>>enough..
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: I am really liking this MADI system [message #91149 is a reply to message #91133] |
Mon, 08 October 2007 12:36 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Senior Member |
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I've posted such things here before and it was, um, not well received.
TCB
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>It'd be interesting for someone with PTHD and a new Intel Mac to do some
benchmark
>testing between running OS X and Windows...
>
>Gantt
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>No..Of course not..I was just explaining that Pro Tools HD,LE,M-Powered
>run
>>flawlessy on a PC as well as a Mac. But, up until the current crop of mac
>>(Intels), the PC ran circles around the Mac running Pro Tools (Any version)..Now,
>>it's a wash.
>>
>>As for Mac version being more stable. Nope. The Mac verison will crash
on
>>Pro Tools just as often as the PC version. My personal experiences have
>been
>>that Pro Tools on OS9 was very stable..Not so with OSX. Iwould say that
>PT
>>on Win XP is more stable than OS-X and more robust.
>>
>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>And I'm such a naive little Mac Dude that I've been laboring under the
>delusion
>>>that PT was more stable and powerful on a Mac.
>>>
>>>So, is the future of Pro Audio going to be on a PC?
>>>
>>>Gantt
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>It True Gannt.. Back in 2001, when Microsoft bail Avid out debt, MS gave
>>>Avid
>>>>some of their in-house talent for the sole purpose of making Pro Tools
>>world-class
>>>>on a PC.
>>>>
>>>>Also, when Apple introduced Final Cut Pro,and started taking marketing
>>share
>>>>from Advid and the looming rumor of Apple partnering or purchaing on
the
>>>>DAW makers app, Avid/Digi told all of their 'Mac-only' plugin partners
>>that
>>>>they had to get their plugins over on the PC platform...Why??
>>>>
>>>>I heard that after the Final cut pro success and then Emagic purchase,
>>that
>>>>Avid/Digi were worried that Apple would either cripple or stop supporting
>>>>any other MAc DAW on their new Machines.
>>>>
>>>>So, back to MS..Microsoft poured a lot of money into digi. WHat came
out
>>>>it was : 1) Stable WDM drivers, RTAS.. 2)Avid pro whatever for PC..
>>>>
>>>>It's said that MS owns up to 49 percent of Avid. MS wanted to be in the
>>>Pro
>>>>Audio/Media Business without appearing to be in the lead position , due
>>>to
>>>>all of the anti-trust lawsuits being waged against them. But,make no
mistakes..$Microsoft's
>>>>money is what fueled Pro Tools market position. And, if you notice Avid
>>>today,
>>>>they are using MS's business model..Which is to agresivly aquire competiotrs
>>>>that offer technologies that they did not:
>>>>
>>>>-M-Audio-World class PC Pro-audio driver makers.
>>>>-Wizoo-World Class VSti/plugin makers
>>>>-Abelton- World clas eleastic audio engine.
>>>>
>>>>Gannt all anyone has to do to see the performance difference btw a Mac
>>and
>>>>PC running Pro Tools is to Purchase a copy of M-powered pro tools, compare
>>>>it to M-Powered or LE on a mac.
>>>>
>>>>Next, see who many plugins can you open up..Big difference. But.Mac only
>>>>folks when they witness this, are shocked beyond belife.. Because they
>>have
>>>>been told that teh Mac is soo superior to a PC.
>>>>
>>>>So, yes, Pro Tools HD on a killer PC is way faster than any Mac. Due
to
>>>the
>>>>Code beign more PC friendlier than OS-X.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It's just that more long time Pro Tools users were mac users. Pro Tools
>>>saw
>>>>the exact same CPU horsepower difference btw Mac & PC as we all witnessed
>>>>the last 8 years.
>>>>
>>>>It's not talked about because, MAc folks are just that Mac folks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>PTHD runs better on PC? I hadn't heard that. How about latency compensation
>>>>>when using the UAD-1 plugs in PT?
>>>>>
>>>>>Gantt
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nice Job DJ!! ..But, remember PTHD run circles (Sorry James) arounf
>PTHD
>>>>>on
>>>>>>a comprible mac. Letting you run your UAD (via fx wrap) if you want
>to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So, you would not have to purchase a new PC. he PC(s) you are are more
>>>>than
>>>>>>enough..
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: I am really liking this MADI system [message #91152 is a reply to message #91149] |
Mon, 08 October 2007 13:48 |
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Possibly because in the past this was a newsgroup full of Paris fanatics who
were fiercly denying any notion of Paris being obsolete and were still sharing
experience, strength and hope for the future of their favorite DAW. Now
it's a newsgroup full of former, soon-to-be-former and eventually-to-be-former
Paris fanatics who hang together because they just like each others' company.
I suspect that info regarding possible future paths for all of us still
using Paris as our main DAW would be seen in a somewhat different light at
this point in time.
Gantt
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>I've posted such things here before and it was, um, not well received.
>
>TCB
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>It'd be interesting for someone with PTHD and a new Intel Mac to do some
>benchmark
>>testing between running OS X and Windows...
>>
>>Gantt
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>No..Of course not..I was just explaining that Pro Tools HD,LE,M-Powered
>>run
>>>flawlessy on a PC as well as a Mac. But, up until the current crop of
mac
>>>(Intels), the PC ran circles around the Mac running Pro Tools (Any version)..Now,
>>>it's a wash.
>>>
>>>As for Mac version being more stable. Nope. The Mac verison will crash
>on
>>>Pro Tools just as often as the PC version. My personal experiences have
>>been
>>>that Pro Tools on OS9 was very stable..Not so with OSX. Iwould say that
>>PT
>>>on Win XP is more stable than OS-X and more robust.
>>>
>>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>And I'm such a naive little Mac Dude that I've been laboring under the
>>delusion
>>>>that PT was more stable and powerful on a Mac.
>>>>
>>>>So, is the future of Pro Audio going to be on a PC?
>>>>
>>>>Gantt
>>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>It True Gannt.. Back in 2001, when Microsoft bail Avid out debt, MS
gave
>>>>Avid
>>>>>some of their in-house talent for the sole purpose of making Pro Tools
>>>world-class
>>>>>on a PC.
>>>>>
>>>>>Also, when Apple introduced Final Cut Pro,and started taking marketing
>>>share
>>>>>from Advid and the looming rumor of Apple partnering or purchaing on
>the
>>>>>DAW makers app, Avid/Digi told all of their 'Mac-only' plugin partners
>>>that
>>>>>they had to get their plugins over on the PC platform...Why??
>>>>>
>>>>>I heard that after the Final cut pro success and then Emagic purchase,
>>>that
>>>>>Avid/Digi were worried that Apple would either cripple or stop supporting
>>>>>any other MAc DAW on their new Machines.
>>>>>
>>>>>So, back to MS..Microsoft poured a lot of money into digi. WHat came
>out
>>>>>it was : 1) Stable WDM drivers, RTAS.. 2)Avid pro whatever for PC..
>>>>>
>>>>>It's said that MS owns up to 49 percent of Avid. MS wanted to be in
the
>>>>Pro
>>>>>Audio/Media Business without appearing to be in the lead position ,
due
>>>>to
>>>>>all of the anti-trust lawsuits being waged against them. But,make no
>mistakes..$Microsoft's
>>>>>money is what fueled Pro Tools market position. And, if you notice Avid
>>>>today,
>>>>>they are using MS's business model..Which is to agresivly aquire competiotrs
>>>>>that offer technologies that they did not:
>>>>>
>>>>>-M-Audio-World class PC Pro-audio driver makers.
>>>>>-Wizoo-World Class VSti/plugin makers
>>>>>-Abelton- World clas eleastic audio engine.
>>>>>
>>>>>Gannt all anyone has to do to see the performance difference btw a Mac
>>>and
>>>>>PC running Pro Tools is to Purchase a copy of M-powered pro tools, compare
>>>>>it to M-Powered or LE on a mac.
>>>>>
>>>>>Next, see who many plugins can you open up..Big difference. But.Mac
only
>>>>>folks when they witness this, are shocked beyond belife.. Because they
>>>have
>>>>>been told that teh Mac is soo superior to a PC.
>>>>>
>>>>>So, yes, Pro Tools HD on a killer PC is way faster than any Mac. Due
>to
>>>>the
>>>>>Code beign more PC friendlier than OS-X.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>It's just that more long time Pro Tools users were mac users. Pro Tools
>>>>saw
>>>>>the exact same CPU horsepower difference btw Mac & PC as we all witnessed
>>>>>the last 8 years.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's not talked about because, MAc folks are just that Mac folks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>PTHD runs better on PC? I hadn't heard that. How about latency compensation
>>>>>>when using the UAD-1 plugs in PT?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Gantt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Nice Job DJ!! ..But, remember PTHD run circles (Sorry James) arounf
>>PTHD
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>a comprible mac. Letting you run your UAD (via fx wrap) if you want
>>to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So, you would not have to purchase a new PC. he PC(s) you are are
more
>>>>>than
>>>>>>>enough..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: I am really liking this MADI system [message #91202 is a reply to message #91096] |
Tue, 09 October 2007 14:51 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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Senior Member |
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Hi DJ,
If you are thinking about a single socket 775 board then this one is
excellent. It uses the P35 chipset so is compatibel with the 1333mhz fsb
chips. It has 3 PCI and 3 PCI-e available. 6 SATA ports, 12 USB, 1 FW, 1
NIC. Very solid board. I've tested thses combinations and it wirked fine. WE
only use NVidia vidoe cards so haven't tried ATI or Matrox. Not sure why
someone would want to use either of them anyways. :)
3xUAD PCI 1x UAD PCI-e 1x FF800
2x MADI PCI, 2x UAD pci-e 1x UAD PCI
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DP35DP/index.htm
The board has no PS2, Paralell or serial ports and has to have a Sata OS
drive.
Chris
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:47087eb1$1@linux...
> The Magma chassis' I'm using are both capable of using the newer Magma
> PCIe host card. These cost $300.00, but I've got a pretty good rapport
> with the folks at Magma. I'm sure they would refund me the price of the
> card if I bought one and it didn't work. I'm thinking that I might buy one
> of the PCIe host cards and try one of the latest/greatest mobos. Most of
> them have at least one legacy PCI slot for the other Magma.
>
>
> .
>
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
> news:C32DB982.D5B4%dterry@keyofd.net...
>> DJ - I won't guarantee great success with it. There were few options
>> with 3
>> PCI slots, and in hindsight (not being able to use but 2), I might have
>> looked at something else. Imho, if you aren't all PCIe at this point,
>> it's
>> a bit of a crap shoot trying to get a great board. The Asus boards do
>> seem
>> to get mixed reviews, but most PCI boards I looked at did as well.
>>
>> The P5W is running well for guys with firewire audio (FF800) and 2
>> UAD-1s.
>> I get some glitches with graphic movement at certain latencies (e.g.
>> dragging the timeline in the Nuendo arrange window during playback), but
>> it's inconsistent and hasn't been a showstopper (I have a PCIe XFX
>> GeForce
>> dual head DVI). I wouldn't call it a great board, but I think this is a
>> bit
>> of a transition period with boards.
>>
>> I also haven't upgraded BIOS, but it's a later rev anyway.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dedric
>>
>> On 10/6/07 9:13 PM, in article 47085053$1@linux, "DJ" <animix _ at _
>> animas
>> _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hmmmm...thanks Dedric. there are lots of nightmare reviews of the mobo
>>> on
>>> NewEgg. Seems pretty buggy with mixed results of having a bios upgrade
>>> solve
>>> the problems. that said, the bugginess seems to be RAID relqated and I'm
>>> not
>>> using RAID arrays so it might be worth a shot.
>>>
>>> I've got everything here to build one except the CPU, mobo and
>>> RAM.....oh.oops...I'm gonna need a compatible dual head PCIe vid card
>>> too.
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>> news:C32DA82F.D5A6%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>>> The Asus P5W DH Deluxe has 3 PCI (though you can only use 2 due to IRQ
>>>> sharing), and 3 PCIe, and is quad core compatible, if you only need a
>>>> single
>>>> quad core.
>>>>
>>>> Haven't tried it with a Magma or SBS though.
>>>>
>>>> Dedric
>>>>
>>>> On 10/6/07 7:39 PM, in article 470838bf$1@linux, "Chris Ludwig"
>>>> <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dj,
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder if there are any mobos with PCI slots that will handle Intel
>>>>>> quads
>>>>>
>>>>>> and are compaible with UAD-1 cards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: I am really liking this MADI system [message #91212 is a reply to message #91202] |
Tue, 09 October 2007 17:54 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:470bf997@linux...
> Hi DJ,
> If you are thinking about a single socket 775 board then this one is
> excellent. It uses the P35 chipset so is compatibel with the 1333mhz fsb
> chips. It has 3 PCI and 3 PCI-e available. 6 SATA ports, 12 USB, 1 FW, 1
> NIC. Very solid board. I've tested thses combinations and it wirked fine.
> WE only use NVidia vidoe cards so haven't tried ATI or Matrox. Not sure
> why someone would want to use either of them anyways. :)
>
> 3xUAD PCI 1x UAD PCI-e 1x FF800
> 2x MADI PCI, 2x UAD pci-e 1x UAD PCI
>
> http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DP35DP/index.htm
>
> The board has no PS2, Paralell or serial ports and has to have a Sata OS
> drive.
>
>
> Chris
>
Thanks Chris,
I was sorta' thinking about throwing together a Quad core Intel machine as a
stopgap until the scaling issues with dual quads get sorted out with
Cubendo. I've got a couple of 36G Raptors sitting here gathering dust. If
you were running 2 x MADI PCI and a UAD-1 PCI then it's likely that these
two PCI slots aren't sharing an IRQ and I would be able to use both my
Magma's and their PCI cards. another option would be to get a PCIe host card
for one of my Magmas.
I don't see any 1333FSB CPU's out there right now except the Xeons. I don't
really think the increase in price would be worth the difference I would
gain between a 1066 FSB Q6600 and a Q6700 or some whizbang Xeon, but then
again, I'm not at all Intel savvy any more. If I were to do this, it would
have to gain me enough gopower to allow me to operate pretty much 24/7 at
32k buffers with track counts up to 30 and 85% UAD-1 loads. Without that,
I'm good just staying with what I've got here. My current rig is bulletproof
stable running the 2 x Magmas. I just see no point in moving to the dual
socket quad core Barcelona monsterbox until these issues have been sorted
out. I did run across this on EBay the other night. No telling what it will
sell for but someone out there is now offering dual Barcelona quad machines.
I thought that was interesting and perhaps a very risky buy though I also
thought it would be interesting to see what it would do with something like
Reaper which doesn't have the scaling issues that Steinystuff does..
http://cgi.ebay.com/EIGHT-CORE-Workstation-Gaming-Computer-8 -GB-Memory_W0QQitemZ180167438019QQihZ008QQcategoryZ140075QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
What I would like to be able to do is utilize 4G RAM on my main DAW and keep
the other Opteron DAW as slave for running VSTi's primarily. I can interface
my Houston controller via midi so I'm wondering if I can run Cubase 4 in 32
bit mode on Windows XP 64 or server 2003 and have access to any additional
memory resources.
As usual, your input is much appreciated.
;o)
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| Re: I am really liking this MADI system [message #91227 is a reply to message #91202] |
Tue, 09 October 2007 23:22 |
Erling
Messages: 156
Registered: October 2008
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Hi Chris,
Do you have any experience with the new Intel P35 chipset? I see
there's plenty of these motherboards out now.
Erling
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 17:51:43 -0400, "Chris Ludwig"
<chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi DJ,
>If you are thinking about a single socket 775 board then this one is
>excellent. It uses the P35 chipset so is compatibel with the 1333mhz fsb
>chips. It has 3 PCI and 3 PCI-e available. 6 SATA ports, 12 USB, 1 FW, 1
>NIC. Very solid board. I've tested thses combinations and it wirked fine. WE
>only use NVidia vidoe cards so haven't tried ATI or Matrox. Not sure why
>someone would want to use either of them anyways. :)
>
>3xUAD PCI 1x UAD PCI-e 1x FF800
>2x MADI PCI, 2x UAD pci-e 1x UAD PCI
>
>http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DP35DP/index.htm
>
>The board has no PS2, Paralell or serial ports and has to have a Sata OS
>drive.
>
>
>Chris
>
>
>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
>news:47087eb1$1@linux...
>> The Magma chassis' I'm using are both capable of using the newer Magma
>> PCIe host card. These cost $300.00, but I've got a pretty good rapport
>> with the folks at Magma. I'm sure they would refund me the price of the
>> card if I bought one and it didn't work. I'm thinking that I might buy one
>> of the PCIe host cards and try one of the latest/greatest mobos. Most of
>> them have at least one legacy PCI slot for the other Magma.
>>
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>> news:C32DB982.D5B4%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>> DJ - I won't guarantee great success with it. There were few options
>>> with 3
>>> PCI slots, and in hindsight (not being able to use but 2), I might have
>>> looked at something else. Imho, if you aren't all PCIe at this point,
>>> it's
>>> a bit of a crap shoot trying to get a great board. The Asus boards do
>>> seem
>>> to get mixed reviews, but most PCI boards I looked at did as well.
>>>
>>> The P5W is running well for guys with firewire audio (FF800) and 2
>>> UAD-1s.
>>> I get some glitches with graphic movement at certain latencies (e.g.
>>> dragging the timeline in the Nuendo arrange window during playback), but
>>> it's inconsistent and hasn't been a showstopper (I have a PCIe XFX
>>> GeForce
>>> dual head DVI). I wouldn't call it a great board, but I think this is a
>>> bit
>>> of a transition period with boards.
>>>
>>> I also haven't upgraded BIOS, but it's a later rev anyway.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>> On 10/6/07 9:13 PM, in article 47085053$1@linux, "DJ" <animix _ at _
>>> animas
>>> _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hmmmm...thanks Dedric. there are lots of nightmare reviews of the mobo
>>>> on
>>>> NewEgg. Seems pretty buggy with mixed results of having a bios upgrade
>>>> solve
>>>> the problems. that said, the bugginess seems to be RAID relqated and I'm
>>>> not
>>>> using RAID arrays so it might be worth a shot.
>>>>
>>>> I've got everything here to build one except the CPU, mobo and
>>>> RAM.....oh.oops...I'm gonna need a compatible dual head PCIe vid card
>>>> too.
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:C32DA82F.D5A6%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>>>> The Asus P5W DH Deluxe has 3 PCI (though you can only use 2 due to IRQ
>>>>> sharing), and 3 PCIe, and is quad core compatible, if you only need a
>>>>> single
>>>>> quad core.
>>>>>
>>>>> Haven't tried it with a Magma or SBS though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/6/07 7:39 PM, in article 470838bf$1@linux, "Chris Ludwig"
>>>>> <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Dj,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wonder if there are any mobos with PCI slots that will handle Intel
>>>>>>> quads
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and are compaible with UAD-1 cards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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