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| 3.0 on XP buggy [message #79441] |
Sat, 03 February 2007 13:16  |
Piper
Messages: 3
Registered: February 2007
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Greetings,
I'm a LONG time Paris 3.0 user, was a VAR when that program was active.
Finally made the move to XP on new HW - Intel Dual core, 2GB, SATA x2, Nvida...
Fresh XP home install.
I've installed 3.0 according to the excellent directions, pace first, etc.
It's REALLY buggy - won't see the MEC but ~30% of the time on start, crashes
paris on some starts, crashes paris on some song loads (98 saved projects,
this is a mix/post platform), crashes windows on occasion, etc.
Is this as good as it gets? Any ideas to make this more stable?
Your experienced input is appreciated -
Piper
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| Re: 3.0 on XP buggy [message #79445 is a reply to message #79441] |
Sat, 03 February 2007 14:13  |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
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Piper,
Look through the old posts..there's plenty of info.
I was running Paris on XP for years and it was totally stable.
Don't forget to turn OFF Hyperthreading.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Piper" <piperprojects@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Greetings,
>
> I'm a LONG time Paris 3.0 user, was a VAR when that program was active.
> Finally made the move to XP on new HW - Intel Dual core, 2GB, SATA x2,
> Nvida...
> Fresh XP home install.
>
> I've installed 3.0 according to the excellent directions, pace first, etc.
>
> It's REALLY buggy - won't see the MEC but ~30% of the time on start,
> crashes
> paris on some starts, crashes paris on some song loads (98 saved projects,
> this is a mix/post platform), crashes windows on occasion, etc.
>
> Is this as good as it gets? Any ideas to make this more stable?
>
> Your experienced input is appreciated -
>
> Piper
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| Re: 3.0 on XP buggy [message #79446 is a reply to message #79441] |
Sat, 03 February 2007 16:05 |
Ed
Messages: 199
Registered: February 2006
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Piper,
It does sound like your hyperthreading is on... look in your BIOS when you
turn on your computer. Be sure that it is turned off. It also could be
related to the services. You can't just install XP and expect Paris to
function properly. Here is a link to go through and be sure some things are
set correctly.
http://kfocus.com/paris/tree.html
Good luck.... ~ Ed
"Piper" <piperprojects@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:45c4eda9$1@linux...
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> Greetings,
>
> I'm a LONG time Paris 3.0 user, was a VAR when that program was active.
> Finally made the move to XP on new HW - Intel Dual core, 2GB, SATA x2,
> Nvida...
> Fresh XP home install.
>
> I've installed 3.0 according to the excellent directions, pace first, etc.
>
> It's REALLY buggy - won't see the MEC but ~30% of the time on start,
> crashes
> paris on some starts, crashes paris on some song loads (98 saved projects,
> this is a mix/post platform), crashes windows on occasion, etc.
>
> Is this as good as it gets? Any ideas to make this more stable?
>
> Your experienced input is appreciated -
>
> Piper
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| Re: 3.0 on XP buggy [message #79451 is a reply to message #79441] |
Sat, 03 February 2007 20:57 |
Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
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Hi, Piper.
I am still getting occasional crashes when loading heavily
laden projects as well. I always assumed it was some rogue plugin
I have installed. Never really got to the bottom of it, because
usually after a crash and a restart, the projects do load.
Apart from that, Paris is quite stable, and runs smoothly.
Single core on a K8NS ultra 939.
There was a thread some time ago started by Dimitrios,
(search for "Paris and crashes you should all know that !!"
which suggests that moving the Paris install folder and vst folder
to the root of C drive solves the problem. I tried it and it
seemed to improve the situation, but not cure it completely.
Good Luck.
Kim
"Piper" <piperprojects@verizon.net> wrote:
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>Greetings,
>
>I'm a LONG time Paris 3.0 user, was a VAR when that program was active.
>Finally made the move to XP on new HW - Intel Dual core, 2GB, SATA x2, Nvida...
> Fresh XP home install.
>
>I've installed 3.0 according to the excellent directions, pace first, etc.
>
>It's REALLY buggy - won't see the MEC but ~30% of the time on start, crashes
>paris on some starts, crashes paris on some song loads (98 saved projects,
>this is a mix/post platform), crashes windows on occasion, etc.
>
>Is this as good as it gets? Any ideas to make this more stable?
>
>Your experienced input is appreciated -
>
>Piper
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| Re: 3.0 on XP buggy [message #79458 is a reply to message #79441] |
Sun, 04 February 2007 08:33 |
Wayne Carson
Messages: 86
Registered: June 2007
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I too thinks it's hyperthreading.
Wayne
"Piper" <piperprojects@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:45c4eda9$1@linux...
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> Greetings,
>
> I'm a LONG time Paris 3.0 user, was a VAR when that program was active.
> Finally made the move to XP on new HW - Intel Dual core, 2GB, SATA x2,
> Nvida...
> Fresh XP home install.
>
> I've installed 3.0 according to the excellent directions, pace first, etc.
>
> It's REALLY buggy - won't see the MEC but ~30% of the time on start,
> crashes
> paris on some starts, crashes paris on some song loads (98 saved projects,
> this is a mix/post platform), crashes windows on occasion, etc.
>
> Is this as good as it gets? Any ideas to make this more stable?
>
> Your experienced input is appreciated -
>
> Piper
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| Re: 3.0 on XP buggy [message #79490 is a reply to message #79441] |
Mon, 05 February 2007 08:11 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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The Dual core will be the issue here... I don't know if anyone has had
success getting it to work properly. I am not sure if it even possible
to turn off HT on this chip.
David.
Piper wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I'm a LONG time Paris 3.0 user, was a VAR when that program was active.
> Finally made the move to XP on new HW - Intel Dual core, 2GB, SATA x2, Nvida...
> Fresh XP home install.
>
> I've installed 3.0 according to the excellent directions, pace first, etc.
>
> It's REALLY buggy - won't see the MEC but ~30% of the time on start, crashes
> paris on some starts, crashes paris on some song loads (98 saved projects,
> this is a mix/post platform), crashes windows on occasion, etc.
>
> Is this as good as it gets? Any ideas to make this more stable?
>
> Your experienced input is appreciated -
>
> Piper
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| Re: 3.0 on XP buggy [message #79534 is a reply to message #79490] |
Mon, 05 February 2007 14:58 |
Piper
Messages: 3
Registered: February 2007
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Thanks to all for your suggestions -
sounded like hyperthreading to me too. This is a true dual core chip which
does not hyperthread so it can't be turned off. The only dual core intel
chips which hyperthread are the 'extreme' chips (effectively creating 4 threads,
2 per core).
Is there no experience with Paris on XP with a true dual core chip?
Is MS virtual pc a possibility - any experience?
I tried setting 'paris.exe' compatibility mode to win98 - no go.
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>The Dual core will be the issue here... I don't know if anyone has had
>success getting it to work properly. I am not sure if it even possible
>to turn off HT on this chip.
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>David.
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>Piper wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I'm a LONG time Paris 3.0 user, was a VAR when that program was active.
>> Finally made the move to XP on new HW - Intel Dual core, 2GB, SATA x2,
Nvida...
>> Fresh XP home install.
>>
>> I've installed 3.0 according to the excellent directions, pace first,
etc.
>>
>> It's REALLY buggy - won't see the MEC but ~30% of the time on start, crashes
>> paris on some starts, crashes paris on some song loads (98 saved projects,
>> this is a mix/post platform), crashes windows on occasion, etc.
>>
>> Is this as good as it gets? Any ideas to make this more stable?
>>
>> Your experienced input is appreciated -
>>
>> Piper
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| Re: 3.0 on XP buggy RESOLVED [message #79539 is a reply to message #79534] |
Mon, 05 February 2007 15:32 |
Piper
Messages: 3
Registered: February 2007
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Junior Member |
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Thanks again to all -
In BIOS there is "SW Single Processor Mode - enable/disable" this forces
the processor to run in single core mode, just as disabling hyperthread emulates.
Paris runs smoothly now - the old Paris I know & love...
Pass it on to anyone attempting XP/Paris on a "D" intel processor.
Thanks again!
"Piper" <piperprojects@verizon.net> wrote:
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>Thanks to all for your suggestions -
>
>sounded like hyperthreading to me too. This is a true dual core chip which
>does not hyperthread so it can't be turned off. The only dual core intel
>chips which hyperthread are the 'extreme' chips (effectively creating 4
threads,
>2 per core).
>
>Is there no experience with Paris on XP with a true dual core chip?
>
>Is MS virtual pc a possibility - any experience?
>
>I tried setting 'paris.exe' compatibility mode to win98 - no go.
>
>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>The Dual core will be the issue here... I don't know if anyone has had
>>success getting it to work properly. I am not sure if it even possible
>>to turn off HT on this chip.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Piper wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> I'm a LONG time Paris 3.0 user, was a VAR when that program was active.
>
>>> Finally made the move to XP on new HW - Intel Dual core, 2GB, SATA x2,
>Nvida...
>>> Fresh XP home install.
>>>
>>> I've installed 3.0 according to the excellent directions, pace first,
>etc.
>>>
>>> It's REALLY buggy - won't see the MEC but ~30% of the time on start,
crashes
>>> paris on some starts, crashes paris on some song loads (98 saved projects,
>>> this is a mix/post platform), crashes windows on occasion, etc.
>>>
>>> Is this as good as it gets? Any ideas to make this more stable?
>>>
>>> Your experienced input is appreciated -
>>>
>>> Piper
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