| Patch bays? [message #70420] |
Wed, 19 July 2006 07:10  |
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brandon[2]
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When I build my new console I will need to insert a patchbay into my chain.
I have heard some people complain that patchbays severly decrease quality.
Opinions on that?
Also, suggestions on good patchbays with XLR inputs and balanced 1/4 ouputs?
Thanks,
b
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| Re: Patch bays? [message #70426 is a reply to message #70425] |
Wed, 19 July 2006 10:05  |
Deej [1]
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If any of that rack gear is class A or tube (or both) it's going to get hot,
so make sure it has a space above it and make sure your sound proof cabinet
is well ventilated (which pretty much negates the sound
proofing..........and why do you need to sound proof preamps??.........oh
well, anyway.......;O) .
Deej
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:44be65e6$1@linux...
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> Basically, I was going to put all my rackmount gear in a sound proof
cabinet
> that will be built in to my console.(2- dual channel mic pres, 2- MECS, 2-
> RNC's, and what ever else I may add into the equation later)
> I need to be able to access the patch points on each device without
getting
> on my knees and pulling it all out of the cabinet. So, I was going to
mount
> a patchbay on the side of the cabinet that I can access externally for
convienence.
>
> thx,
> b
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> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
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> >When I build my new console I will need to insert a patchbay into my
chain.
> >I have heard some people complain that patchbays severly decrease
quality.
> >Opinions on that?
> >Also, suggestions on good patchbays with XLR inputs and balanced 1/4
ouputs?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >b
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| Re: Patch bays? [message #70427 is a reply to message #70424] |
Wed, 19 July 2006 11:41 |
EK Sound
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The connection quality is far less with a TRS (longframe or standard
for that matter) jack than with an XLR. The XLR has a good solid
connection, whereas the 1/4" jacks can move (rotate) with vibration.
While this is not a problem with line level signals, it IS a problem
for the very low level mic signals where Phantom power in concerned.
ANY variance in the Phantom supply to a mic will be instantly audible.
I worked at a studio once that had a bantam mic bay... anytime I did
a session in there, I had to lay a blanket and phone books on the
cables to keep them from vibrating... I even spent lots of time
in-between cleaning the plugs (brass) to no avail.
YMMV... but I doubt it...
Cheers,
David.
Dubya Mark Wilson wrote:
> David, what are your concerns with regard with TRS being used for XLR
> throughput outside of something requiring special consieration such as
> phantom voltage to old pin-3 hot ribbon mics?
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> W.
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> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:44be4c87@linux...
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>>Hey Brandon,
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>>A patching system built from high quality cabling and connectors will have
>>little or no effect on the signal quality. I do recommend XLR patching
>>for mic lines... TRS would be fine for line level signals. Avoid gold
>>connections at the patching point, they are designed to be used where the
>>connection is never (or extremely seldom) removed. The gold coating
>>prevents oxidization over long periods of time. If used in a patching
>>point, the gold will wear off very quickly (negating any benefits). If
>>you can provide some details as to your set-up, I can make some
>>suggestions.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Brandon wrote:
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>>>When I build my new console I will need to insert a patchbay into my
>>>chain.
>>>I have heard some people complain that patchbays severly decrease
>>>quality.
>>>Opinions on that?
>>>Also, suggestions on good patchbays with XLR inputs and balanced 1/4
>>>ouputs?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>b
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| Re: Patch bays? [message #70431 is a reply to message #70426] |
Wed, 19 July 2006 12:24 |
rick
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to remind him of how important water is but also to protect the gear
from spillage when one has it on oneself...sheesh...
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:05:55 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>If any of that rack gear is class A or tube (or both) it's going to get hot,
>so make sure it has a space above it and make sure your sound proof cabinet
>is well ventilated (which pretty much negates the sound
>proofing..........and why do you need to sound proof preamps??.........oh
>well, anyway.......;O) .
>
>Deej
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>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:44be65e6$1@linux...
>>
>> Basically, I was going to put all my rackmount gear in a sound proof
>cabinet
>> that will be built in to my console.(2- dual channel mic pres, 2- MECS, 2-
>> RNC's, and what ever else I may add into the equation later)
>> I need to be able to access the patch points on each device without
>getting
>> on my knees and pulling it all out of the cabinet. So, I was going to
>mount
>> a patchbay on the side of the cabinet that I can access externally for
>convienence.
>>
>> thx,
>> b
>>
>>
>>
>> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >When I build my new console I will need to insert a patchbay into my
>chain.
>> >I have heard some people complain that patchbays severly decrease
>quality.
>> >Opinions on that?
>> >Also, suggestions on good patchbays with XLR inputs and balanced 1/4
>ouputs?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >b
>>
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| Re: Patch bays? [message #70434 is a reply to message #70431] |
Wed, 19 July 2006 16:52 |
brandon[2]
Messages: 380
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All my rack gear fits in one small rack unit so I would just like to shove
it all in the cabinet and forget about it.
Get it out of the way and be able to close up out of view when I need to.
b
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>to remind him of how important water is but also to protect the gear
>from spillage when one has it on oneself...sheesh...
>
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>On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:05:55 -0600, "DJ"
><animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
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>>If any of that rack gear is class A or tube (or both) it's going to get
hot,
>>so make sure it has a space above it and make sure your sound proof cabinet
>>is well ventilated (which pretty much negates the sound
>>proofing..........and why do you need to sound proof preamps??.........oh
>>well, anyway.......;O) .
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:44be65e6$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Basically, I was going to put all my rackmount gear in a sound proof
>>cabinet
>>> that will be built in to my console.(2- dual channel mic pres, 2- MECS,
2-
>>> RNC's, and what ever else I may add into the equation later)
>>> I need to be able to access the patch points on each device without
>>getting
>>> on my knees and pulling it all out of the cabinet. So, I was going to
>>mount
>>> a patchbay on the side of the cabinet that I can access externally for
>>convienence.
>>>
>>> thx,
>>> b
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >When I build my new console I will need to insert a patchbay into my
>>chain.
>>> >I have heard some people complain that patchbays severly decrease
>>quality.
>>> >Opinions on that?
>>> >Also, suggestions on good patchbays with XLR inputs and balanced 1/4
>>ouputs?
>>> >
>>> >Thanks,
>>> >b
>>>
>>
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