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| Re: Magma problems HELP? [message #91286 is a reply to message #91263] |
Thu, 11 October 2007 04:18   |
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mike audet[1]
Messages: 129
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Tom, that totally sucks!
My Magma PS went bad, too, but it was completely dead - wouldn't start at
all. No sounds, no fans, no nothin'.
If you do replace it, just make sure you get a PS that can handle having
no 12 volt load. You may have to get an older one.
Good luck!
Mike
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
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>
>I can't believe this one but . . .=20
>
>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
>start up and keep running. This began tonight as
>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
>would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
>power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
>if I baby it.
>
>Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
>Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=20
>a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see anything
>about that in the manual.
>
>? ? ?
>
>Why Me???
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't believe this one but . . . =
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for
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>
>years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>start up and keep running. This =
>began tonight=20
>as</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
>setup. The=20
>Magma</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would power on for a split second then
=
>stop. =20
>I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>power supply. It might still work =
>with all 5=20
>cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, =
>replug and=20
>start again.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec =
>then. I=20
>thought there was </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a auto shut off mechanism built in to =
>the=20
>Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>about that in the manual.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>and=20
>you?<BR><A=20
>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: Magma problems HELP? [message #91297 is a reply to message #91286] |
Thu, 11 October 2007 07:48 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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Mike,
What power supply did you replace yours with?
I'm not sure how to find out which will and will not
handle 'no load' on the 12v side.
I'm looking for something heafty in the 600watt+ range.
Tom
"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:470e0686$1@linux...
Tom, that totally sucks!
My Magma PS went bad, too, but it was completely dead - wouldn't start =
at
all. No sounds, no fans, no nothin'.
If you do replace it, just make sure you get a PS that can handle =
having
no 12 volt load. You may have to get an older one.
Good luck!
Mike
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>I can't believe this one but . . .=3D20
>
>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
>start up and keep running. This began tonight as
>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
>would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
>power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
>if I baby it.
>
>Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
>Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=3D20
>a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =
anything
>about that in the manual.
>
>? ? ?
>
>Why Me???
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can't believe this one but . . =
.. =3D
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot =
Magma for
=3D
>
>years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>start up and keep running. This =
=3D
>began tonight=3D20
>as</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
=3D
>setup. The=3D20
>Magma</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would power on for a split =
second then
=3D
>stop. =3D20
>I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>power supply. It might still =
work =3D
>with all 5=3D20
>cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug, =
wait, =3D
>replug and=3D20
>start again.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with one =
Mec =3D
>then. I=3D20
>thought there was </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a auto shut off mechanism built =
in to =3D
>the=3D20
>Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>about that in the =
manual.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, =3D
>and=3D20
>you?<BR><A=3D20
=
>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What power supply did you replace yours =
with?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm not sure how to find out which will =
and will=20
not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>handle 'no load' on the 12v =
side.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm looking for something heafty in the =
600watt+=20
range.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:470e0686$1@linux">news:470e0686$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Tom,=
that=20
totally sucks!<BR><BR>My Magma PS went bad, too, but it was completely =
dead -=20
wouldn't start at<BR>all. No sounds, no fans, no =
nothin'.<BR><BR>If you=20
do replace it, just make sure you get a PS that can handle =
having<BR>no 12=20
volt load. You may have to get an older one.<BR><BR>Good=20
luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>I can't believe this one but . .=20
.=3D20<BR>><BR>>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for =
years. Now=20
it won't<BR>>start up and keep running. This began tonight=20
as<BR>>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The =
Magma<BR>>would=20
power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking<BR>>power =
supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec<BR>>if =
I baby=20
it.<BR>><BR>>Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and =
start=20
again.<BR>>Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I =
thought there=20
was=3D20<BR>>a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. =
I didn't=20
see anything<BR>>about that in the manual.<BR>><BR>>? ?=20
?<BR>><BR>>Why Me???<BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose Polesoft =
Lockspam=20
to fight spam, and =
you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
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can't believe this one but . . .=20
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face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
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for<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>>years. Now it=20
won't</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>start up and keep running. This =3D<BR>>began=20
=
tonight=3D20<BR>>as</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FON=
T=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec=20
=3D<BR>>setup. =20
=
The=3D20<BR>>Magma</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT=
=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would power on for a split second=20
then<BR>=3D<BR>>stop. =3D20<BR>>I'm=20
thinking</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>power supply. It might still work =3D<BR>>with =
all=20
5=3D20<BR>>cards and 1=20
Mec</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>if I baby =
it.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, =
=3D<BR>>replug=20
and=3D20<BR>>start =
again.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec=20
=3D<BR>>then. I=3D20<BR>>thought there was=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>a auto shut off mechanism built in to=20
=3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>>Magma. I didn't see=20
anything</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>about that in the=20
manual.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>? ? =
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</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
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Me???</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
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spam,=20
=
=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20 <BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
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| Re: Magma problems HELP? [message #91299 is a reply to message #91297] |
Thu, 11 October 2007 07:56 |
mike audet[1]
Messages: 129
Registered: February 2006
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Hi Tom,
I had an older one I bought from pcpowerandcooling.com. If you email them,
they will be able to help you with that. They used to sell "referbs" of
old models from their site. I'm not sure if they still do.
Good luck!
Mike
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Mike,
>What power supply did you replace yours with?
>I'm not sure how to find out which will and will not
>handle 'no load' on the 12v side.
>
>I'm looking for something heafty in the 600watt+ range.
>Tom
> "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:470e0686$1@linux...
>
> Tom, that totally sucks!
>
> My Magma PS went bad, too, but it was completely dead - wouldn't start
=
>at
> all. No sounds, no fans, no nothin'.
>
> If you do replace it, just make sure you get a PS that can handle =
>having
> no 12 volt load. You may have to get an older one.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Mike
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >I can't believe this one but . . .=3D20
> >
> >I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> >start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> >I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> >would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> >power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
> >if I baby it.
> >
> >Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
> >Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=3D20
> >a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =
>anything
> >about that in the manual.
> >
> >? ? ?
> >
> >Why Me???
> >
> >
> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can't believe this one but . .
=
>. =3D
> ></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot =
>Magma for
> =3D
> >
> >years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>start up and keep running. This
=
>=3D
> >began tonight=3D20
> >as</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec
=
>=3D
> >setup. The=3D20
> >Magma</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would power on for a split =
>second then
> =3D
> >stop. =3D20
> >I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>power supply. It might still =
>work =3D
> >with all 5=3D20
> >cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug,
=
>wait, =3D
> >replug and=3D20
> >start again.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with one
=
>Mec =3D
> >then. I=3D20
> >thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a auto shut off mechanism built
=
>in to =3D
> >the=3D20
> >Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>about that in the =
>manual.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>spam, =3D
> >and=3D20
> >you?<BR><A=3D20
> =
>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>fer=3D
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What power supply did you replace yours
=
>
>with?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm not sure how to find out which will
=
>and will=20
>not</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>handle 'no load' on the 12v =
>side.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm looking for something heafty in the
=
>600watt+=20
>range.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:470e0686$1@linux">news:470e0686$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Tom,=
> that=20
> totally sucks!<BR><BR>My Magma PS went bad, too, but it was completely
=
>dead -=20
> wouldn't start at<BR>all. No sounds, no fans, no =
>nothin'.<BR><BR>If you=20
> do replace it, just make sure you get a PS that can handle =
>having<BR>no 12=20
> volt load. You may have to get an older one.<BR><BR>Good=20
> luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>I can't believe this one but . .=20
> .=3D20<BR>><BR>>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for =
>years. Now=20
> it won't<BR>>start up and keep running. This began tonight=20
> as<BR>>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The =
>Magma<BR>>would=20
> power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking<BR>>power =
>
> supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec<BR>>if =
>I baby=20
> it.<BR>><BR>>Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and =
>start=20
> again.<BR>>Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I =
>thought there=20
> was=3D20<BR>>a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. =
>I didn't=20
> see anything<BR>>about that in the manual.<BR>><BR>>? ?=20
> ?<BR>><BR>>Why Me???<BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose Polesoft =
>Lockspam=20
> to fight spam, and =
>you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
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> size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
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> for<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>>years. Now it=20
> won't</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>start up and keep running. This =3D<BR>>began=20
> =
>tonight=3D20<BR>>as</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FON=
>T=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec=20
> =3D<BR>>setup. =20
> =
>The=3D20<BR>>Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=
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> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would power on for a split second=20
> then<BR>=3D<BR>>stop. =3D20<BR>>I'm=20
> thinking</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>power supply. It might still work =3D<BR>>with =
>all=20
> 5=3D20<BR>>cards and 1=20
> Mec</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>
> size=3D3D2>if I baby =
>it.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, =
>=3D<BR>>replug=20
> and=3D20<BR>>start =
>again.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec=20
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> size=3D3D2>about that in the=20
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>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
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> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Why=20
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> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>spam,=20
> =
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> =
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| Re: Magma problems HELP? [message #91300 is a reply to message #91297] |
Thu, 11 October 2007 07:56 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
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I would contact Magma and see if they have any recommended replacements.
Failing that, you may have to mount a hard drive in the case to use
some 12V
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Mike,
> What power supply did you replace yours with?
> I'm not sure how to find out which will and will not
> handle 'no load' on the 12v side.
>
> I'm looking for something heafty in the 600watt+ range.
> Tom
>
> "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:470e0686$1@linux...
>
> Tom, that totally sucks!
>
> My Magma PS went bad, too, but it was completely dead - wouldn't
> start at
> all. No sounds, no fans, no nothin'.
>
> If you do replace it, just make sure you get a PS that can handle having
> no 12 volt load. You may have to get an older one.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Mike
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >I can't believe this one but . . .=20
> >
> >I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> >start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> >I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> >would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> >power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
> >if I baby it.
> >
> >Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
> >Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=20
> >a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see
> anything
> >about that in the manual.
> >
> >? ? ?
> >
> >Why Me???
> >
> >
> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't believe this one but . . . =
> ></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot
> Magma for
> =
> >
> >years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>start up and keep running. This =
> >began tonight=20
> >as</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
> >setup. The=20
> >Magma</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would power on for a split second
> then
> =
> >stop. =20
> >I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>power supply. It might still work =
> >with all 5=20
> >cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug,
> wait, =
> >replug and=20
> >start again.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec =
> >then. I=20
> >thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a auto shut off mechanism built
> in to =
> >the=20
> >Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>about that in the
> manual.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight
> spam, =
> >and=20
> >you?<BR><A=20
> >href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer
> <http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer>=
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| Re: Magma problems HELP? [message #91308 is a reply to message #91300] |
Thu, 11 October 2007 10:13 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
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Ya, the ones on their sight starting at $249...
"EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:470e3b23@linux...
I would contact Magma and see if they have any recommended =
replacements.=20
Failing that, you may have to mount a hard drive in the case to use=20
some 12V
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Mike,
> What power supply did you replace yours with?
> I'm not sure how to find out which will and will not
> handle 'no load' on the 12v side.
> =20
> I'm looking for something heafty in the 600watt+ range.
> Tom
>=20
> "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message =
news:470e0686$1@linux...
>=20
> Tom, that totally sucks!
>=20
> My Magma PS went bad, too, but it was completely dead - wouldn't
> start at
> all. No sounds, no fans, no nothin'.
>=20
> If you do replace it, just make sure you get a PS that can =
handle having
> no 12 volt load. You may have to get an older one.
>=20
> Good luck!
>=20
> Mike
>=20
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> =
wrote:
> >
> >
> >I can't believe this one but . . .=3D20
> >
> >I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> >start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> >I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> >would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> >power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
> >if I baby it.
> >
> >Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
> >Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =
was=3D20
> >a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see
> anything
> >about that in the manual.
> >
> >? ? ?
> >
> >Why Me???
> >
> >
> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can't believe this one =
but . . . =3D
> ></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 =
slot
> Magma for
> =3D
> >
> >years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>start up and keep =
running. This =3D
> >began tonight=3D20
> >as</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to =
a 1 Mec =3D
> >setup. The=3D20
> >Magma</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would power on for a =
split second
> then
> =3D
> >stop. =3D20
> >I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>power supply. It might =
still work =3D
> >with all 5=3D20
> >cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>if I baby =
it.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to =
unplug,
> wait, =3D
> >replug and=3D20
> >start again.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up =
with one Mec =3D
> >then. I=3D20
> >thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a auto shut off mechanism =
built
> in to =3D
> >the=3D20
> >Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>about that in the
> manual.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight
> spam, =3D
> >and=3D20
> >you?<BR><A=3D20
> =
>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
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out which=20
will and will not<BR>> handle 'no load' on the 12v =
side.<BR>> =20
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range.<BR>>=20
Tom<BR>> <BR>> "Mike Audet" =
<mike@....>=20
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<BR>> Tom, that totally sucks!<BR>>=20
<BR>> My Magma PS went bad, too, but it was =
completely dead - wouldn't<BR>> start=20
at<BR>> all. No sounds, no fans, no=20
nothin'.<BR>> <BR>> If you do replace =
it, just=20
make sure you get a PS that can handle =
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<BR>> Good luck!<BR>>=20
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| Re: Magma problems HELP? [message #91309 is a reply to message #91308] |
Thu, 11 October 2007 11:05 |
DJ
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I've got an old 13 slot Magma here with a blown mobo and host card. The =
PSU does work however. You want it? It's yours for the shipping.
Deej
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470e5b19@linux...
Ya, the ones on their sight starting at $249...
"EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message =
news:470e3b23@linux...
I would contact Magma and see if they have any recommended =
replacements.=20
Failing that, you may have to mount a hard drive in the case to =
use=20
some 12V
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Mike,
> What power supply did you replace yours with?
> I'm not sure how to find out which will and will not
> handle 'no load' on the 12v side.
> =20
> I'm looking for something heafty in the 600watt+ range.
> Tom
>=20
> "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message =
news:470e0686$1@linux...
>=20
> Tom, that totally sucks!
>=20
> My Magma PS went bad, too, but it was completely dead - =
wouldn't
> start at
> all. No sounds, no fans, no nothin'.
>=20
> If you do replace it, just make sure you get a PS that can =
handle having
> no 12 volt load. You may have to get an older one.
>=20
> Good luck!
>=20
> Mike
>=20
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> =
wrote:
> >
> >
> >I can't believe this one but . . .=3D20
> >
> >I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> >start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> >I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> >would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> >power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 =
Mec
> >if I baby it.
> >
> >Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start =
again.
> >Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =
was=3D20
> >a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't =
see
> anything
> >about that in the manual.
> >
> >? ? ?
> >
> >Why Me???
> >
> >
> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =
=3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can't believe this =
one but . . . =3D
> ></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a =
13 slot
> Magma for
> =3D
> >
> >years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>start up and keep =
running. This =3D
> >began tonight=3D20
> >as</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 =
to a 1 Mec =3D
> >setup. The=3D20
> >Magma</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would power on for a =
split second
> then
> =3D
> >stop. =3D20
> >I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>power supply. It might =
still work =3D
> >with all 5=3D20
> >cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>if I baby =
it.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to =
unplug,
> wait, =3D
> >replug and=3D20
> >start again.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up =
with one Mec =3D
> >then. I=3D20
> >thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a auto shut off =
mechanism built
> in to =3D
> >the=3D20
> >Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>about that in the
> manual.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight
> spam, =3D
> >and=3D20
> >you?<BR><A=3D20
> =
>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer
> =
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> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've got an old 13 slot Magma here with =
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12V<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> Mike,<BR>> What =
power=20
supply did you replace yours with?<BR>> I'm not sure how to find =
out=20
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<BR>> Tom, that totally sucks!<BR>>=20
<BR>> My Magma PS went bad, too, but it =
was=20
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at<BR>> all. No sounds, no fans, no =
nothin'.<BR>> <BR>> If you do replace =
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| Re: Magma problems HELP? [message #91312 is a reply to message #91308] |
Thu, 11 October 2007 10:33 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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So, get a regular supply and find an old drive to throw in there to
spin... doesn't even have to have a data cable connected. Got an old 6
gig laying around? ;-)
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Ya, the ones on their sight starting at $249...
>
>
> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net <mailto:ask_me@nospam.net>> wrote in
> message news:470e3b23@linux...
> I would contact Magma and see if they have any recommended
> replacements.
> Failing that, you may have to mount a hard drive in the case to use
> some 12V
>
> David.
>
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > Mike,
> > What power supply did you replace yours with?
> > I'm not sure how to find out which will and will not
> > handle 'no load' on the 12v side.
> >
> > I'm looking for something heafty in the 600watt+ range.
> > Tom
> >
> > "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message
> news:470e0686$1@linux...
> >
> > Tom, that totally sucks!
> >
> > My Magma PS went bad, too, but it was completely dead - wouldn't
> > start at
> > all. No sounds, no fans, no nothin'.
> >
> > If you do replace it, just make sure you get a PS that can
> handle having
> > no 12 volt load. You may have to get an older one.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >I can't believe this one but . . .=20
> > >
> > >I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> > >start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> > >I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> > >would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> > >power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
> > >if I baby it.
> > >
> > >Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
> > >Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there
> was=20
> > >a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see
> > anything
> > >about that in the manual.
> > >
> > >? ? ?
> > >
> > >Why Me???
> > >
> > >
> > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> > >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> > ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't believe this one
> but . . . =
> > ></FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot
> > Magma for
> > =
> > >
> > >years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>start up and keep
> running. This =
> > >began tonight=20
> > >as</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a
> 1 Mec =
> > >setup. The=20
> > >Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would power on for a split
> second
> > then
> > =
> > >stop. =20
> > >I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>power supply. It might
> still work =
> > >with all 5=20
> > >cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Once it's off I have to
> unplug,
> > wait, =
> > >replug and=20
> > >start again.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe it will start up
> with one Mec =
> > >then. I=20
> > >thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a auto shut off mechanism
> built
> > in to =
> > >the=20
> > >Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>about that in the
> > manual.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight
> > spam, =
> > >and=20
> > >you?<BR><A=20
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| Re: Magma problems HELP? [message #91313 is a reply to message #91312] |
Thu, 11 October 2007 10:44 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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ooorrr.. spend $2 at Radio Shack for a resister to load down the 12vdc line?
AA
"EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:470e5fec$1@linux...
> So, get a regular supply and find an old drive to throw in there to
> spin... doesn't even have to have a data cable connected. Got an old 6
> gig laying around? ;-)
>
> David.
>
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>> Ya, the ones on their sight starting at $249...
>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net <mailto:ask_me@nospam.net>> wrote in
>> message news:470e3b23@linux...
>> I would contact Magma and see if they have any recommended
>> replacements.
>> Failing that, you may have to mount a hard drive in the case to use
>> some 12V
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>> > Mike,
>> > What power supply did you replace yours with?
>> > I'm not sure how to find out which will and will not
>> > handle 'no load' on the 12v side.
>> > > I'm looking for something heafty in the 600watt+ range.
>> > Tom
>> >
>> > "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message
>> news:470e0686$1@linux...
>> >
>> > Tom, that totally sucks!
>> >
>> > My Magma PS went bad, too, but it was completely dead -
>> wouldn't
>> > start at
>> > all. No sounds, no fans, no nothin'.
>> >
>> > If you do replace it, just make sure you get a PS that can
>> handle having
>> > no 12 volt load. You may have to get an older one.
>> >
>> > Good luck!
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>
>> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >I can't believe this one but . . .=20
>> > >
>> > >I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
>> > >start up and keep running. This began tonight as
>> > >I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
>> > >would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
>> > >power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1
>> Mec
>> > >if I baby it.
>> > >
>> > >Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start
>> again.
>> > >Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there
>> was=20
>> > >a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't
>> see
>> > anything
>> > >about that in the manual.
>> > >
>> > >? ? ?
>> > >
>> > >Why Me???
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> > >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html > >
>> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0
>> Transitional//EN">
>> > ><HTML><HEAD>
>> > ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>> > >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>> > ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
>> > ></HEAD>
>> > ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't believe this one
>> but . . . =
>> > ></FONT></DIV>
>> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13
>> slot
>> > Magma for
>> > =
>> > >
>> > >years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
>> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>start up and keep
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>> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a
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>> > >setup. The=20
>> > >Magma</FONT></DIV>
>> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would power on for a split
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>> > >stop. =20
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>> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>power supply. It might
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>> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
>> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Once it's off I have to
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>> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>about that in the
>> > manual.</FONT></DIV>
>> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
>> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
>> > ><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to
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David,
The supply I pulled from the Magma did not look stock. it
looked like a cheap 400 watt mongral.
I just bought an Antec 550. It is modular in that you only attach
the cables that are needed. It seems to me that that supply will
be able to run with or without anything attached to it.
Does my thinking stand to reason?
Powerlessly,
Tom
"EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:470e3b23@linux...
I would contact Magma and see if they have any recommended =
replacements.=20
Failing that, you may have to mount a hard drive in the case to use=20
some 12V
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Mike,
> What power supply did you replace yours with?
> I'm not sure how to find out which will and will not
> handle 'no load' on the 12v side.
> =20
> I'm looking for something heafty in the 600watt+ range.
> Tom
>=20
> "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message =
news:470e0686$1@linux...
>=20
> Tom, that totally sucks!
>=20
> My Magma PS went bad, too, but it was completely dead - wouldn't
> start at
> all. No sounds, no fans, no nothin'.
>=20
> If you do replace it, just make sure you get a PS that can =
handle having
> no 12 volt load. You may have to get an older one.
>=20
> Good luck!
>=20
> Mike
>=20
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> =
wrote:
> >
> >
> >I can't believe this one but . . .=3D20
> >
> >I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> >start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> >I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> >would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> >power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
> >if I baby it.
> >
> >Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
> >Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =
was=3D20
> >a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see
> anything
> >about that in the manual.
> >
> >? ? ?
> >
> >Why Me???
> >
> >
> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can't believe this one =
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> ></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 =
slot
> Magma for
> =3D
> >
> >years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>start up and keep =
running. This =3D
> >began tonight=3D20
> >as</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to =
a 1 Mec =3D
> >setup. The=3D20
> >Magma</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would power on for a =
split second
> then
> =3D
> >stop. =3D20
> >I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>power supply. It might =
still work =3D
> >with all 5=3D20
> >cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>if I baby =
it.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to =
unplug,
> wait, =3D
> >replug and=3D20
> >start again.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up =
with one Mec =3D
> >then. I=3D20
> >thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a auto shut off mechanism =
built
> in to =3D
> >the=3D20
> >Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>about that in the
> manual.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The supply I pulled from the Magma did =
not look=20
stock. it</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>looked like a cheap 400 watt =
mongral.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I just bought an Antec 550. It is =
modular in=20
that you only attach</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the cables that are needed. It =
seems to me=20
that that supply will</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>be able to run with or without anything =
attached to=20
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Does my thinking stand to =
reason?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Powerlessly,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:ask_me@nospam.net">ask_me@nospam.net</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
href=3D"news:470e3b23@linux">news:470e3b23@linux</A>...</DIV>I would =
contact=20
Magma and see if they have any recommended replacements. <BR> =
Failing=20
that, you may have to mount a hard drive in the case to use <BR>some=20
12V<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> Mike,<BR>> What =
power=20
supply did you replace yours with?<BR>> I'm not sure how to find =
out which=20
will and will not<BR>> handle 'no load' on the 12v =
side.<BR>> =20
<BR>> I'm looking for something heafty in the 600watt+ =
range.<BR>>=20
Tom<BR>> <BR>> "Mike Audet" =
<mike@....>=20
wrote in message <A=20
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<BR>> Tom, that totally sucks!<BR>>=20
<BR>> My Magma PS went bad, too, but it was =
completely dead - wouldn't<BR>> start=20
at<BR>> all. No sounds, no fans, no=20
nothin'.<BR>> <BR>> If you do replace =
it, just=20
make sure you get a PS that can handle =
having<BR>> =20
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<BR>> Good luck!<BR>>=20
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as<BR>> >I tried adding Mec #2 to =
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power=20
on for a split second then stop. I'm=20
thinking<BR>> >power supply. =
It=20
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Mec<BR>> >if I baby=20
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><BR>> >Once it's off I have to =
unplug,=20
wait, replug and start again.<BR>> =
>Maybe=20
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was=3D20<BR>> >a auto shut off =
mechanism=20
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see<BR>> =20
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><BR>> >? ?=20
?<BR> > =2 0
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><BR>> >I choose Polesoft =
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The=3D20<BR> > =2 0
=
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=3D<BR> > =2 0
>the=3D20<BR>> >Magma. I =
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| Re: Magma problems HELP! ! ! ! ! ! [message #91324 is a reply to message #91323] |
Thu, 11 October 2007 17:26 |
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Another thing,
My Magma has not only the 20 pin mobo power connector
but 3 x hard drive type connectors that go to the Mobo.
Not sure if this means anything.
Tom
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470ec023$1@linux...
Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
match.
I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have made =
even
the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?
Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The Magma
tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the far =
left
for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =
face the front.
I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.
Everything is broken it seems.
Tom
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470d9f41$1@linux...
I can't believe this one but . . .=20
I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
start up and keep running. This began tonight as
I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
if I baby it.
Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=20
a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =
anything
about that in the manual.
? ? ?
Why Me???
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Another thing,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My Magma has not only the 20 pin mobo =
power=20
connector</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but 3 x hard drive type connectors that =
go to the=20
Mobo.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure if this means =
anything.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:470ec023$1@linux">news:470ec023$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =
Guys,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New problem. Just installed a =
new Antec 550=20
watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. =
It will run=20
with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then shut off just before XP boots =
and screws the=20
whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll double check seating of the =
cards but what=20
else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans =
are cooling=20
well too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then =
? =20
Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =
drivers? If so=20
I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =
mine=20
is. It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for the Magma card. The newer=20
one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the =
front.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think mine's the opposite judging =
by my master=20
card placement.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Everything is broken it =
seems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't believe this one but . . .=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma =
for=20
years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>start up and keep running. =
This began=20
tonight as</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
setup. =20
The Magma</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would power on for a split second =
then=20
stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>power supply. It might still =
work with=20
all 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug, =
wait, replug=20
and start again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec =
then. =20
I thought there was </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a auto shut off mechanism built in =
to the=20
Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>about that in the =
manual.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, and=20
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Thu, 11 October 2007 18:06 |
Aaron Allen
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Tom, at this point I'd entertain sending that entire rig to Chris =
Ludwig, pay him for his experience/expertise, so you can get on with =
your life. Seriously. Life's too short bro.
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470ec0b8@linux...
Another thing,
My Magma has not only the 20 pin mobo power connector
but 3 x hard drive type connectors that go to the Mobo.
Not sure if this means anything.
Tom
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470ec023$1@linux...
Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
match.
I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have made =
even
the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?
Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The =
Magma
tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the =
far left
for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as =
you face the front.
I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.
Everything is broken it seems.
Tom
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470d9f41$1@linux...
I can't believe this one but . . .=20
I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
start up and keep running. This began tonight as
I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
if I baby it.
Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=20
a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =
anything
about that in the manual.
? ? ?
Why Me???
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom, at this point I'd entertain =
sending that=20
entire rig to Chris Ludwig, pay him for his =
experience/expertise, so you=20
can get on with your life. Seriously. Life's too short =
bro.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:470ec0b8@linux">news:470ec0b8@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Another thing,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My Magma has not only the 20 pin mobo =
power=20
connector</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but 3 x hard drive type connectors =
that go to the=20
Mobo.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure if this means =
anything.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:470ec023$1@linux">news:470ec023$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =
Guys,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New problem. Just installed a =
new Antec=20
550 watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Powers up nicely in the =
Magma. It will=20
run with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then shut off just before XP boots =
and screws=20
the whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll double check seating of the =
cards but what=20
else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans =
are cooling=20
well too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS =
then ? =20
Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =
drivers? If=20
so I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =
mine=20
is. It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =
one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the=20
front.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think mine's the opposite judging =
by my=20
master card placement.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Everything is broken it =
seems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't believe this one but . . =
..=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot =
Magma for=20
years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>start up and keep running. =
This began=20
tonight as</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
setup. =20
The Magma</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would power on for a split second =
then=20
stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>power supply. It might =
still work with=20
all 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug, =
wait, replug=20
and start again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe it will start up with one =
Mec=20
then. I thought there was </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a auto shut off mechanism built =
in to the=20
Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>about that in the =
manual.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, and=20
you?<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
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Thu, 11 October 2007 23:57 |
Tom Bruhl
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I hear ya Aaron. I am going to trouble shoot the eds cards again
then I'll send the Magma to Magma. If that doesn't answer some=20
questions then Chris will get the call. I hate to bother him with this
trite Paris crap. There'd be a lot of shipping involved there too....
Thanks for the tip.
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:470eca34@linux...
Tom, at this point I'd entertain sending that entire rig to Chris =
Ludwig, pay him for his experience/expertise, so you can get on with =
your life. Seriously. Life's too short bro.
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470ec0b8@linux...
Another thing,
My Magma has not only the 20 pin mobo power connector
but 3 x hard drive type connectors that go to the Mobo.
Not sure if this means anything.
Tom
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470ec023$1@linux...
Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
match.
I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have =
made even
the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The =
Magma?
Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The =
Magma
tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the =
far left
for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as =
you face the front.
I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.
Everything is broken it seems.
Tom
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470d9f41$1@linux...
I can't believe this one but . . .=20
I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
start up and keep running. This began tonight as
I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
if I baby it.
Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=20
a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =
anything
about that in the manual.
? ? ?
Why Me???
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hear ya Aaron. I am going to =
trouble shoot=20
the eds cards again</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then I'll send the Magma to =
Magma. If that=20
doesn't answer some </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>questions then Chris will get the =
call. I=20
hate to bother him with this</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>trite Paris crap. There'd be a =
lot of=20
shipping involved there too....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the tip.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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=
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wrote in=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom, at this point I'd entertain =
sending that=20
entire rig to Chris Ludwig, pay him for his =
experience/expertise, so you=20
can get on with your life. Seriously. Life's too short =
bro.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:470ec0b8@linux">news:470ec0b8@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Another thing,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My Magma has not only the 20 pin =
mobo power=20
connector</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but 3 x hard drive type connectors =
that go to=20
the Mobo.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure if this means =
anything.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:470ec023$1@linux">news:470ec023$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =
Guys,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New problem. Just installed =
a new Antec=20
550 watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Powers up nicely in the =
Magma. It will=20
run with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then shut off just before XP =
boots and screws=20
the whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll double check seating of the =
cards but=20
what else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the new supply to croak? =
Fans are=20
cooling well too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS =
then ? =20
Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =
drivers? If=20
so I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tech was almost laughing at how =
old mine=20
is. It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for the Magma card. The =
newer=20
one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the=20
front.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think mine's the opposite =
judging by my=20
master card placement.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Everything is broken it =
seems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't believe this one but . =
.. .=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot =
Magma for=20
years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>start up and keep =
running. This began=20
tonight as</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 =
Mec=20
setup. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would power on for a split =
second then=20
stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>power supply. It might =
still work=20
with all 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug, =
wait,=20
replug and start again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe it will start up with one =
Mec=20
then. I thought there was </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a auto shut off mechanism built =
in to the=20
Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>about that in the =
manual.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, and=20
you?<BR><A=20
=
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Fri, 12 October 2007 00:04 |
Tom Bruhl
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It'd be cheaper and more fun to ship Chris here than ship this
pile to him.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470f1c52@linux...
I hear ya Aaron. I am going to trouble shoot the eds cards again
then I'll send the Magma to Magma. If that doesn't answer some=20
questions then Chris will get the call. I hate to bother him with =
this
trite Paris crap. There'd be a lot of shipping involved there too....
Thanks for the tip.
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:470eca34@linux...
Tom, at this point I'd entertain sending that entire rig to Chris =
Ludwig, pay him for his experience/expertise, so you can get on with =
your life. Seriously. Life's too short bro.
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470ec0b8@linux...
Another thing,
My Magma has not only the 20 pin mobo power connector
but 3 x hard drive type connectors that go to the Mobo.
Not sure if this means anything.
Tom
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470ec023$1@linux...
Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
match.
I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have =
made even
the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The =
Magma?
Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The =
Magma
tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on =
the far left
for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left =
as you face the front.
I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.
Everything is broken it seems.
Tom
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470d9f41$1@linux...
I can't believe this one but . . .=20
I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
start up and keep running. This began tonight as
I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
if I baby it.
Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was =
a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =
anything
about that in the manual.
? ? ?
Why Me???
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It'd be cheaper and more fun to ship =
Chris here=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>pile to him.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hear ya Aaron. I am going to =
trouble=20
shoot the eds cards again</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then I'll send the Magma to =
Magma. If that=20
doesn't answer some </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>questions then Chris will get the =
call. I=20
hate to bother him with this</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>trite Paris crap. There'd be a =
lot of=20
shipping involved there too....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the tip.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>> =
wrote=20
in message <A =
href=3D"news:470eca34@linux">news:470eca34@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom, at this point I'd entertain =
sending that=20
entire rig to Chris Ludwig, pay him for his =
experience/expertise, so=20
you can get on with your life. Seriously. Life's too short=20
bro.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Another thing,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My Magma has not only the 20 pin =
mobo power=20
connector</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but 3 x hard drive type =
connectors that go to=20
the Mobo.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure if this means =
anything.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:470ec023$1@linux">news:470ec023$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =
Guys,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New problem. Just =
installed a new=20
Antec 550 watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Powers up nicely in the =
Magma. It=20
will run with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then shut off just before XP =
boots and=20
screws the whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll double check seating of =
the cards but=20
what else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the new supply to croak? =
Fans are=20
cooling well too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken =
EDS then=20
? Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =
drivers? =20
If so I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tech was almost laughing at how =
old mine=20
is. It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for the Magma card. The =
newer=20
one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the=20
front.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think mine's the opposite =
judging by my=20
master card placement.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Everything is broken it =
seems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't believe this one but =
.. . .=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot =
Magma for=20
years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>start up and keep =
running. This=20
began tonight as</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 =
Mec=20
setup. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would power on for a split =
second then=20
stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>power supply. It might =
still work=20
with all 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Once it's off I have to =
unplug, wait,=20
replug and start again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe it will start up with =
one Mec=20
then. I thought there was </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a auto shut off mechanism =
built in to the=20
Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>about that in the =
manual.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
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| Re: Magma problems HELP! ! ! ! ! ! [message #91338 is a reply to message #91323] |
Fri, 12 October 2007 04:22 |
Mike Audet
Messages: 294
Registered: December 2008
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Senior Member |
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Hi Tom,
I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any drivers.
I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then one, then two, etc.,
until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the Magma,
I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. You may want to
test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong about that. It
sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS driver for a shit
when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached (that happens on
start up).
Good luck!
Mike
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
>New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
>then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' match.
>I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have made =
>even
>the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
>
>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?
>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The Magma
>tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the far =
>left
>for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =
>face the front.
>I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.
>
>Everything is broken it seems.
>Tom
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>news:470d9f41$1@linux...
> I can't believe this one but . . .=20
>
> I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
> if I baby it.
>
> Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
> Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=20
> a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =
>anything
> about that in the manual.
>
> ? ? ?
>
> Why Me???
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =
>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New problem. Just installed a new =
>Antec 550=20
>watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It =
>will run=20
>with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then shut off just before XP boots and
=
>screws the=20
>whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll double check seating of the cards
=
>but what=20
>else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans are =
>cooling=20
>well too.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then =
>? Maybe=20
>3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =
>drivers? If so=20
>I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =
>mine is. =20
>It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =
>one's slot=20
>#s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the front.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think mine's the opposite judging by
=
>my master=20
>card placement.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Everything is broken it =
>seems.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
>in message=20
> <A href=3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't believe this one but . . . =
></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma =
>for=20
> years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>start up and keep running. This =
>began=20
> tonight as</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
>setup. The=20
> Magma</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would power on for a split second =
>then=20
> stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>power supply. It might still =
>work with all=20
> 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug, wait,
=
>replug and=20
> start again.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec =
>then. I=20
> thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a auto shut off mechanism built in to
=
>the=20
> Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>about that in the =
>manual.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
=
>and=20
> you?<BR><A=20
> =
>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
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| Re: Magma problems HELP! ! ! ! ! ! [message #91358 is a reply to message #91338] |
Fri, 12 October 2007 10:25 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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Hi Mike,
I think Windows will boot fine, at least it used to with
all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach a
scsi cable to any of my three new working mecs.
It didn't a couple of days ago.
I'm digging deeper into the way the cards are seated now.
I will check the Magma with one card and one interface at a=20
time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from removing=20
and reinserting the cards? =20
This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good business.
Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . .=20
Tom
"Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message news:470f58fa$1@linux...
Hi Tom,
I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any drivers.
I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then one, then two, =
etc.,
until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the =
Magma,
I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. You may =
want to
test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong about that. =
It
sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS driver for a =
shit
when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached (that happens =
on
start up).
Good luck!
Mike
=20
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
>New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
>then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
match.
>I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have made =
=3D
>even
>the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
>
>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?
>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The =
Magma
>tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the =
far =3D
>left
>for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as =
you =3D
>face the front.
>I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.
>
>Everything is broken it seems.
>Tom
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D
>news:470d9f41$1@linux...
> I can't believe this one but . . .=3D20
>
> I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
> if I baby it.
>
> Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
> Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=3D20
> a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =3D
>anything
> about that in the manual.
>
> ? ? ?
>
> Why Me???
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>
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>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a =
new =3D
>Antec 550=3D20
>watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. =
It =3D
>will run=3D20
>with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>then shut off just before XP =
boots and
=3D
>screws the=3D20
>whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'll double check seating of the =
cards
=3D
>but what=3D20
>else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans =
are =3D
>cooling=3D20
>well too.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS =
then =3D
>? Maybe=3D20
>3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =3D
>drivers? If so=3D20
>I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at how =
old =3D
>mine is. =3D20
>It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =
=3D
>one's slot=3D20
>#s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the front.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think mine's the opposite =
judging by
=3D
>my master=3D20
>card placement.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Everything is broken it =3D
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> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can't believe this one but . =
.. . =3D
></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot =
Magma =3D
>for=3D20
> years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>start up and keep running. =
This =3D
>began=3D20
> tonight as</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 =
Mec =3D
>setup. The=3D20
> Magma</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would power on for a split =
second =3D
>then=3D20
> stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>power supply. It might still =
=3D
>work with all=3D20
> 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to =
unplug, wait,
=3D
>replug and=3D20
> start again.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with =
one Mec =3D
>then. I=3D20
> thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a auto shut off mechanism =
built in to
=3D
>the=3D20
> Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>about that in the =3D
>manual.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Mike,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think Windows will boot fine, at =
least it used to=20
with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes =
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attach a</FONT></DIV>
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working=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It didn't a couple of days =
ago.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm digging deeper into the way the =
cards are=20
seated now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will check the Magma with one card =
and one=20
interface at a </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>time. Maybe the scherzo drivers =
are screwy=20
from removing </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and reinserting the cards? =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is amazing how one little thing =
can ruin a=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . =
..=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=20
Tom,<BR><BR>I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any=20
drivers.<BR><BR>I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then =
one,=20
then two, etc.,<BR>until you can find the problem. If it is the =
bridge=20
chips in the Magma,<BR>I believe Windows would fail even if no cards =
were in=20
it. You may want to<BR>test it with another PCI card in it just =
in case=20
I'm wrong about that. It<BR>sounds to me like a bad card that is =
throwing the PARIS driver for a shit<BR>when it tries to innitialize =
any 442s=20
that are attached (that happens on<BR>start up).<BR><BR>Good=20
luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR> <BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Most Excellent Fix It Guys,<BR>>New=20
problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt =
supply.<BR>>Powers up=20
nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards<BR>>then =
shut off=20
just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' match.<BR>>I'll =
double=20
check seating of the cards but what else would have made=20
=3D<BR>>even<BR>>the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling =
well=20
too.<BR>><BR>>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? =
Maybe 3 . .=20
. ? The Magma?<BR>>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? =
If so=20
I'd need older ones. The Magma<BR>>tech was almost laughing =
at how=20
old mine is. It has a slot on the far =3D<BR>>left<BR>>for =
the Magma=20
card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =
=3D<BR>>face=20
the front.<BR>>I think mine's the opposite judging by my master =
card=20
placement.<BR>><BR>>Everything is broken it=20
seems.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
=3D<BR>>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> I can't believe this =
one but .=20
. .=3D20<BR>><BR>> I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for =
years. Now it won't<BR>> start up and keep =
running. This=20
began tonight as<BR>> I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
setup. =20
The Magma<BR>> would power on for a split second then =
stop. I'm=20
thinking<BR>> power supply. It might still work with =
all 5=20
cards and 1 Mec<BR>> if I baby it.<BR>><BR>> Once =
it's=20
off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.<BR>> =
Maybe it=20
will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =
was=3D20<BR>> a=20
auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see=20
=3D<BR>>anything<BR>> about that in the=20
manual.<BR>><BR>> ? ? ?<BR>><BR>> Why=20
Me???<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight spam,=20
and you?<BR>> <A=20
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Excellent Fix It=20
=3D<BR>>Guys,</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a new =
=3D<BR>>Antec=20
550=3D20<BR>>watt =
supply.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It =
=3D<BR>>will=20
run=3D20<BR>>with 5 EDS=20
cards</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>then shut off just before XP boots =
and<BR>=3D<BR>>screws=20
the=3D20<BR>>whole shootin'=20
match.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I'll double check seating of the cards<BR>=3D<BR>>but =
what=3D20<BR>>else would have made=20
even</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans are =
=3D<BR>>cooling=3D20<BR>>well=20
too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then =3D<BR>>? =
Maybe=3D20<BR>>3=20
. . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =3D<BR>>drivers? =
If=20
so=3D20<BR>>I'd need older ones. The=20
Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =3D<BR>>mine is.=20
=3D20<BR>>It has a slot on the far=20
left</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =3D<BR>>one's =
slot=3D20<BR>>#s go=20
1-13 rt to left as you face the=20
front.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I think mine's the opposite judging by<BR>=3D<BR>>my=20
master=3D20<BR>>card=20
placement.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Everything is broken it=20
=3D<BR>>seems.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
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0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=3D20<BR>> =20
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
wrote =3D<BR>>in message=3D20<BR>> <A href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:47=
0d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can't believe this =
one but . .=20
. =3D<BR>></FONT></DIV><BR >> =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a =
13 slot=20
Magma =3D<BR>>for=3D20<BR>> years. Now it=20
won't</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>start up and keep running. This =
=3D<BR>>began=3D20<BR>> =20
tonight as</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
=3D<BR>>setup.=20
The=3D20<BR>> Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would power on for a =
split second=20
=3D<BR>>then=3D20<BR>> stop. I'm=20
thinking</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>power supply. It might still =
=3D<BR>>work with=20
all=3D20<BR>> 5 cards and 1 =
Mec</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>if I baby=20
it.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug,=20
wait,<BR>=3D<BR>>replug and=3D20<BR>> start=20
again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec =3D<BR>>then.=20
I=3D20<BR>> thought there was =
</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a auto shut off =
mechanism built=20
in to<BR>=3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> Magma. I didn't see=20
anything</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>about that in the=20
=3D<BR>>manual.</FONT></DIV> <BR>> =
<DIV><FONT=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>? ?=20
?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Why =
Me???</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
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Fri, 12 October 2007 11:30 |
mike audet[1]
Messages: 129
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Hi Tom,
Hmmm...does it fail when windows starts if the MECs are connected or when
PARIS starts?
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hi Mike,
>I think Windows will boot fine, at least it used to with
>all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach a
>scsi cable to any of my three new working mecs.
>It didn't a couple of days ago.
>
>I'm digging deeper into the way the cards are seated now.
>I will check the Magma with one card and one interface at a=20
>time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from removing=20
>and reinserting the cards? =20
>
>This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good business.
>Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . .=20
>Tom
>
>
>
> "Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message news:470f58fa$1@linux...
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any drivers.
>
> I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then one, then two, =
>etc.,
> until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the =
>Magma,
> I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. You may =
>want to
> test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong about that.
=
> It
> sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS driver for a =
>shit
> when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached (that happens
=
>on
> start up).
>
> Good luck!
>
> Mike
> =20
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
> >New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
> >Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
> >then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
>match.
> >I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have made
=
>=3D
> >even
> >the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
> >
> >I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?
> >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The =
>Magma
> >tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the =
>far =3D
> >left
> >for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as =
>you =3D
> >face the front.
> >I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.
> >
> >Everything is broken it seems.
> >Tom
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D
> >news:470d9f41$1@linux...
> > I can't believe this one but . . .=3D20
> >
> > I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> > start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> > I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> > would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> > power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
> > if I baby it.
> >
> > Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
> > Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=3D20
> > a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =3D
> >anything
> > about that in the manual.
> >
> > ? ? ?
> >
> > Why Me???
> >
> >
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
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> ><STYLE></STYLE>
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =3D
> >Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a =
>new =3D
> >Antec 550=3D20
> >watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. =
>It =3D
> >will run=3D20
> >with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>then shut off just before XP =
>boots and
> =3D
> >screws the=3D20
> >whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'll double check seating of the
=
>cards
> =3D
> >but what=3D20
> >else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans =
>are =3D
> >cooling=3D20
> >well too.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS
=
>then =3D
> >? Maybe=3D20
> >3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =3D
> >drivers? If so=3D20
> >I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at how
=
>old =3D
> >mine is. =3D20
> >It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =
>=3D
> >one's slot=3D20
> >#s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the front.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think mine's the opposite =
>judging by
> =3D
> >my master=3D20
> >card placement.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Everything is broken it =3D
> >seems.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>=3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
>wrote =3D
> >in message=3D20
> > <A =
>href=3D3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can't believe this one but .
=
>. . =3D
> ></FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot
=
>Magma =3D
> >for=3D20
> > years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>start up and keep running. =
>This =3D
> >began=3D20
> > tonight as</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 =
>Mec =3D
> >setup. The=3D20
> > Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would power on for a split =
>second =3D
> >then=3D20
> > stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>power supply. It might still =
>=3D
> >work with all=3D20
> > 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to =
>unplug, wait,
> =3D
> >replug and=3D20
> > start again.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with =
>one Mec =3D
> >then. I=3D20
> > thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a auto shut off mechanism =
>built in to
> =3D
> >the=3D20
> > Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>about that in the =3D
> >manual.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>spam,
> =3D
> >and=3D20
> > you?<BR><A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>fer=3D
> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
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><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Mike,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think Windows will boot fine, at =
>least it used to=20
>with</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes =
>as soon as I=20
>attach a</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scsi cable to any of my three new =
>working=20
>mecs.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It didn't a couple of days =
>ago.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm digging deeper into the way the =
>cards are=20
>seated now.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will check the Magma with one card =
>and one=20
>interface at a </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>time. Maybe the scherzo drivers =
>are screwy=20
>from removing </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and reinserting the cards? =
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is amazing how one little thing =
>can ruin a=20
>good business.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well maybe it's 10 little things but. .
=
>.=20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=20
> Tom,<BR><BR>I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any=20
> drivers.<BR><BR>I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then
=
>one,=20
> then two, etc.,<BR>until you can find the problem. If it is the =
>bridge=20
> chips in the Magma,<BR>I believe Windows would fail even if no cards =
>were in=20
> it. You may want to<BR>test it with another PCI card in it just =
>in case=20
> I'm wrong about that. It<BR>sounds to me like a bad card that is =
>
> throwing the PARIS driver for a shit<BR>when it tries to innitialize =
>any 442s=20
> that are attached (that happens on<BR>start up).<BR><BR>Good=20
> luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR> <BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Most Excellent Fix It Guys,<BR>>New=20
> problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt =
>supply.<BR>>Powers up=20
> nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards<BR>>then =
>shut off=20
> just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' match.<BR>>I'll =
>double=20
> check seating of the cards but what else would have made=20
> =3D<BR>>even<BR>>the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling =
>well=20
> too.<BR>><BR>>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? =
>Maybe 3 . .=20
> . ? The Magma?<BR>>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? =
>If so=20
> I'd need older ones. The Magma<BR>>tech was almost laughing =
>at how=20
> old mine is. It has a slot on the far =3D<BR>>left<BR>>for =
>the Magma=20
> card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =
>=3D<BR>>face=20
> the front.<BR>>I think mine's the opposite judging by my master =
>card=20
> placement.<BR>><BR>>Everything is broken it=20
> seems.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
>in message=20
> =3D<BR>>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> I can't believe this =
>one but .=20
> . .=3D20<BR>><BR>> I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for =
>
> years. Now it won't<BR>> start up and keep =
>running. This=20
> began tonight as<BR>> I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
>setup. =20
> The Magma<BR>> would power on for a split second then =
>stop. I'm=20
> thinking<BR>> power supply. It might still work with =
>all 5=20
> cards and 1 Mec<BR>> if I baby it.<BR>><BR>> Once =
>it's=20
> off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.<BR>> =
>Maybe it=20
> will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =
>was=3D20<BR>> a=20
> auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see=20
> =3D<BR>>anything<BR>> about that in the=20
> manual.<BR>><BR>> ? ? ?<BR>><BR>> Why=20
> Me???<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
>fight spam,=20
> and you?<BR>> <A=20
> =
>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>.html</A> =20
> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
> =
>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>D><BR>><BODY=20
> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D2>Most=20
> Excellent Fix It=20
> =3D<BR>>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a new =
>=3D<BR>>Antec=20
> 550=3D20<BR>>watt =
>supply.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It =
>=3D<BR>>will=20
> run=3D20<BR>>with 5 EDS=20
> cards</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>then shut off just before XP boots =
>and<BR>=3D<BR>>screws=20
> the=3D20<BR>>whole shootin'=20
> match.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>I'll double check seating of the cards<BR>=3D<BR>>but =
>
> what=3D20<BR>>else would have made=20
> even</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans are =
>=3D<BR>>cooling=3D20<BR>>well=20
> too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then =3D<BR>>? =
>Maybe=3D20<BR>>3=20
> . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =3D<BR>>drivers? =
>If=20
> so=3D20<BR>>I'd need older ones. The=20
> Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =3D<BR>>mine is.=20
> =3D20<BR>>It has a slot on the far=20
> left</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =3D<BR>>one's =
>slot=3D20<BR>>#s go=20
> 1-13 rt to left as you face the=20
> front.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>I think mine's the opposite judging by<BR>=3D<BR>>my=20
> master=3D20<BR>>card=20
> placement.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Everything is broken it=20
> =3D<BR>>seems.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> dir=3D3Dltr=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: =
>5px;=20
> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =
>MARGIN-RIGHT:=20
> 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" =
><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> wrote =3D<BR>>in message=3D20<BR>> <A href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:47=
>0d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=
>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can't believe this =
>one but . .=20
> . =3D<BR>></FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a =
>13 slot=20
> Magma =3D<BR>>for=3D20<BR>> years. Now it=20
> won't</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>start up and keep running. This =
>=3D<BR>>began=3D20<BR>> =20
> tonight as</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
>=3D<BR>>setup.=20
> The=3D20<BR>> Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would power on for a =
>split second=20
> =3D<BR>>then=3D20<BR>> stop. I'm=20
> thinking</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>power supply. It might still =
>=3D<BR>>work with=20
> all=3D20<BR>> 5 cards and 1 =
>Mec</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>if I baby=20
> it.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug,=20
> wait,<BR>=3D<BR>>replug and=3D20<BR>> start=20
> again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec =3D<BR>>then.=20
> I=3D20<BR>> thought there was =
></FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a auto shut off =
>mechanism built=20
> in to<BR>=3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> Magma. I didn't see=20
> anything</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>about that in the=20
> =3D<BR>>manual.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>? ?=20
> ?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Why =
>Me???</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =
>Polesoft Lockspam=20
> to fight spam,<BR>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>> =20
> you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>=3D<BR>>.html</A>=20
> =
></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR=
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| Re: Magma problems HELP! ! ! ! ! ! [message #91368 is a reply to message #91358] |
Fri, 12 October 2007 11:27 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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Try hooking the MEC's up but NOT hooking them to A/C... as in "off"
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> I think Windows will boot fine, at least it used to with
> all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach a
> scsi cable to any of my three new working mecs.
> It didn't a couple of days ago.
>
> I'm digging deeper into the way the cards are seated now.
> I will check the Magma with one card and one interface at a
> time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from removing
> and reinserting the cards?
>
> This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good business.
> Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . .
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message news:470f58fa$1@linux...
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any drivers.
>
> I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then one, then two,
> etc.,
> until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the Magma,
> I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. You may
> want to
> test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong about
> that. It
> sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS driver for a
> shit
> when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached (that happens on
> start up).
>
> Good luck!
>
> Mike
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
> >New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
> >Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
> >then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin'
> match.
> >I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have made =
> >even
> >the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
> >
> >I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?
> >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The Magma
> >tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the
> far =
> >left
> >for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as
> you =
> >face the front.
> >I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.
> >
> >Everything is broken it seems.
> >Tom
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> wrote in message =
> >news:470d9f41$1@linux...
> > I can't believe this one but . . .=20
> >
> > I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> > start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> > I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> > would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> > power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
> > if I baby it.
> >
> > Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
> > Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=20
> > a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =
> >anything
> > about that in the manual.
> >
> > ? ? ?
> >
> > Why Me???
> >
> >
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =
> >Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New problem. Just installed a new =
> >Antec 550=20
> >watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It =
> >will run=20
> >with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then shut off just before XP
> boots and
> =
> >screws the=20
> >whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll double check seating of the
> cards
> =
> >but what=20
> >else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans are =
> >cooling=20
> >well too.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS
> then =
> >? Maybe=20
> >3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =
> >drivers? If so=20
> >I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =
> >mine is. =20
> >It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =
> >one's slot=20
> >#s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the front.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think mine's the opposite
> judging by
> =
> >my master=20
> >card placement.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Everything is broken it =
> >seems.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>> wrote =
> >in message=20
> > <A
> href=3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV
> <news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV>>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't believe this one but .
> . . =
> ></FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot
> Magma =
> >for=20
> > years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>start up and keep running. This =
> >began=20
> > tonight as</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
> >setup. The=20
> > Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would power on for a split second =
> >then=20
> > stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>power supply. It might still =
> >work with all=20
> > 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug,
> wait,
> =
> >replug and=20
> > start again.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe it will start up with one
> Mec =
> >then. I=20
> > thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a auto shut off mechanism built
> in to
> =
> >the=20
> > Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>about that in the =
> >manual.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight
> spam,
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Fri, 12 October 2007 11:53 |
Tom Bruhl
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The Magma power supply just stops after about 45 seconds
so windows freaks and won't finish starting up.
"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:470fbd61@linux...
Hi Tom,
Hmmm...does it fail when windows starts if the MECs are connected or =
when
PARIS starts?
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hi Mike,
>I think Windows will boot fine, at least it used to with
>all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach a
>scsi cable to any of my three new working mecs.
>It didn't a couple of days ago.
>
>I'm digging deeper into the way the cards are seated now.
>I will check the Magma with one card and one interface at a=3D20
>time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from removing=3D20
>and reinserting the cards? =3D20
>
>This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good business.
>Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . .=3D20
>Tom
>
>
>
> "Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message news:470f58fa$1@linux...
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any drivers.
>
> I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then one, then =
two, =3D
>etc.,
> until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the =
=3D
>Magma,
> I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. You may =
=3D
>want to
> test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong about =
that.
=3D
> It
> sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS driver for =
a =3D
>shit
> when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached (that =
happens
=3D
>on
> start up).
>
> Good luck!
>
> Mike
> =3D20
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
> >New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
> >Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
> >then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
=3D
>match.
> >I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have =
made
=3D
>=3D3D
> >even
> >the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
> >
> >I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The =
Magma?
> >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The =
=3D
>Magma
> >tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the =
=3D
>far =3D3D
> >left
> >for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as =
=3D
>you =3D3D
> >face the front.
> >I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.
> >
> >Everything is broken it seems.
> >Tom
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D3D
> >news:470d9f41$1@linux...
> > I can't believe this one but . . .=3D3D20
> >
> > I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> > start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> > I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> > would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> > power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
> > if I baby it.
> >
> > Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
> > Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =
was=3D3D20
> > a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =
=3D3D
> >anything
> > about that in the manual.
> >
> > ? ? ?
> >
> > Why Me???
> >
> >
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
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> ><STYLE></STYLE>
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> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =
=3D3D
> >Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>New problem. Just =
installed a =3D
>new =3D3D
> >Antec 550=3D3D20
> >watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the =
Magma. =3D
>It =3D3D
> >will run=3D3D20
> >with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>then shut off just before =
XP =3D
>boots and
> =3D3D
> >screws the=3D3D20
> >whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'll double check seating =
of the
=3D
>cards
> =3D3D
> >but what=3D3D20
> >else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>the new supply to croak? =
Fans =3D
>are =3D3D
> >cooling=3D3D20
> >well too.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a =
broken EDS
=3D
>then =3D3D
> >? Maybe=3D3D20
> >3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =
=3D3D
> >drivers? If so=3D3D20
> >I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>tech was almost laughing =
at how
=3D
>old =3D3D
> >mine is. =3D3D20
> >It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>for the Magma card. The =
newer =3D
>=3D3D
> >one's slot=3D3D20
> >#s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the front.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I think mine's the =
opposite =3D
>judging by
> =3D3D
> >my master=3D3D20
> >card placement.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Everything is broken it =
=3D3D
> >seems.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20
> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; =3D
>=3D3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
=3D
>wrote =3D3D
> >in message=3D3D20
> > <A =3D
>href=3D3D3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I can't believe this =
one but .
=3D
>. . =3D3D
> ></FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a =
13 slot
=3D
>Magma =3D3D
> >for=3D3D20
> > years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>start up and keep =
running. =3D
>This =3D3D
> >began=3D3D20
> > tonight as</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 =
to a 1 =3D
>Mec =3D3D
> >setup. The=3D3D20
> > Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>would power on for a =
split =3D
>second =3D3D
> >then=3D3D20
> > stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>power supply. It might =
still =3D
>=3D3D
> >work with all=3D3D20
> > 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>if I baby =
it.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Once it's off I have to =
=3D
>unplug, wait,
> =3D3D
> >replug and=3D3D20
> > start again.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Maybe it will start up =
with =3D
>one Mec =3D3D
> >then. I=3D3D20
> > thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>a auto shut off =
mechanism =3D
>built in to
> =3D3D
> >the=3D3D20
> > Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>about that in the =3D3D
> >manual.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight =3D
>spam,
> =3D3D
> >and=3D3D20
> > you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
/re=3D
>fer=3D3D
> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi Mike,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think Windows will boot fine, =
at =3D
>least it used to=3D20
>with</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>all 5 cards in it. Now it =
chokes =3D
>as soon as I=3D20
>attach a</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>scsi cable to any of my three =
new =3D
>working=3D20
>mecs.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It didn't a couple of days =3D
>ago.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm digging deeper into the way =
the =3D
>cards are=3D20
>seated now.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I will check the Magma with one =
card =3D
>and one=3D20
>interface at a </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>time. Maybe the scherzo drivers =
=3D
>are screwy=3D20
>from removing </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and reinserting the cards? =3D
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This is amazing how one little =
thing =3D
>can ruin a=3D20
>good business.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Well maybe it's 10 little things =
but. .
=3D
>.=3D20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>H=
i=3D20
> Tom,<BR><BR>I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require =
any=3D20
> drivers.<BR><BR>I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, =
then
=3D
>one,=3D20
> then two, etc.,<BR>until you can find the problem. If it is the =
=3D
>bridge=3D20
> chips in the Magma,<BR>I believe Windows would fail even if no =
cards =3D
>were in=3D20
> it. You may want to<BR>test it with another PCI card in it just =
=3D
>in case=3D20
> I'm wrong about that. It<BR>sounds to me like a bad card that is =
=3D
>
> throwing the PARIS driver for a shit<BR>when it tries to =
innitialize =3D
>any 442s=3D20
> that are attached (that happens on<BR>start up).<BR><BR>Good=3D20
> luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR> <BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Most Excellent Fix It Guys,<BR>>New=3D20
> problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt =3D
>supply.<BR>>Powers up=3D20
> nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards<BR>>then =3D
>shut off=3D20
> just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' match.<BR>>I'll =
=3D
>double=3D20
> check seating of the cards but what else would have made=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>even<BR>>the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling =3D
>well=3D20
> too.<BR>><BR>>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? =3D
>Maybe 3 . .=3D20
> . ? The Magma?<BR>>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? =3D
>If so=3D20
> I'd need older ones. The Magma<BR>>tech was almost laughing =3D
>at how=3D20
> old mine is. It has a slot on the far =3D3D<BR>>left<BR>>for =3D
>the Magma=3D20
> card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>face=3D20
> the front.<BR>>I think mine's the opposite judging by my master =3D
>card=3D20
> placement.<BR>><BR>>Everything is broken it=3D20
> seems.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote =3D
>in message=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> I can't believe this =3D
>one but .=3D20
> . .=3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for =3D
>
> years. Now it won't<BR>> start up and keep =3D
>running. This=3D20
> began tonight as<BR>> I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =3D
>setup. =3D20
> The Magma<BR>> would power on for a split second then =3D
>stop. I'm=3D20
> thinking<BR>> power supply. It might still work with =3D
>all 5=3D20
> cards and 1 Mec<BR>> if I baby it.<BR>><BR>> Once =3D
>it's=3D20
> off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.<BR>> =3D
>Maybe it=3D20
> will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =3D
>was=3D3D20<BR>> a=3D20
> auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>anything<BR>> about that in the=3D20
> manual.<BR>><BR>> ? ? ?<BR>><BR>> Why=3D20
> Me???<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =3D
>fight spam,=3D20
> and you?<BR>> <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
>.html</A> =3D20
> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
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>size=3D3D3D2>Most=3D20
> Excellent Fix It=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a new =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>Antec=3D20
> 550=3D3D20<BR>>watt =3D
>supply.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>will=3D20
> run=3D3D20<BR>>with 5 EDS=3D20
> cards</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>then shut off just before XP boots =3D
>and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>screws=3D20
> the=3D3D20<BR>>whole shootin'=3D20
> match.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>I'll double check seating of the =
cards<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but =3D
>
> what=3D3D20<BR>>else would have made=3D20
> even</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans are =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>cooling=3D3D20<BR>>well=3D20
> too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then =3D3D<BR>>? =3D
>Maybe=3D3D20<BR>>3=3D20
> . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =
=3D3D<BR>>drivers? =3D
>If=3D20
> so=3D3D20<BR>>I'd need older ones. The=3D20
> Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =3D3D<BR>>mine =
is.=3D20
> =3D3D20<BR>>It has a slot on the far=3D20
> left</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =3D3D<BR>>one's =3D
>slot=3D3D20<BR>>#s go=3D20
> 1-13 rt to left as you face the=3D20
> front.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>I think mine's the opposite judging =
by<BR>=3D3D<BR>>my=3D20
> master=3D3D20<BR>>card=3D20
> placement.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>Everything is broken it=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>seems.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
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> 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" =3D
><<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> <A href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news=
:47=3D
>0d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=3D
>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I can't believe this =3D
>one but . .=3D20
> . =3D3D<BR>></FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a =3D
>13 slot=3D20
> Magma =3D3D<BR>>for=3D3D20<BR>> years. Now it=3D20
> won't</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>start up and keep running. This =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>began=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> tonight as</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>setup.=3D20
> The=3D3D20<BR>> Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>would power on for a =3D
>split second=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>then=3D3D20<BR>> stop. I'm=3D20
> thinking</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>power supply. It might still =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>work with=3D20
> all=3D3D20<BR>> 5 cards and 1 =3D
>Mec</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>if I baby=3D20
> it.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug,=3D20
> wait,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>replug and=3D3D20<BR>> start=3D20
> again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec =
=3D3D<BR>>then.=3D20
> I=3D3D20<BR>> thought there was =3D
></FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>a auto shut off =3D
>mechanism built=3D20
> in to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D20<BR>> Magma. I didn't see=3D20
> anything</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>about that in the=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>manual.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>? ?=3D20
> ?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Why =3D
>Me???</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =3D
>Polesoft Lockspam=3D20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Magma power supply just stops after =
about 45=20
seconds</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>so windows freaks and won't finish =
starting=20
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<DIV>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:470fbd61@linux">news:470fbd61@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=20
Tom,<BR><BR>Hmmm...does it fail when windows starts if the MECs are =
connected=20
or when<BR>PARIS starts?<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Hi Mike,<BR>>I think Windows will =
boot fine,=20
at least it used to with<BR>>all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes =
as soon=20
as I attach a<BR>>scsi cable to any of my three new working =
mecs.<BR>>It=20
didn't a couple of days ago.<BR>><BR>>I'm digging deeper into =
the way=20
the cards are seated now.<BR>>I will check the Magma with one card =
and one=20
interface at a=3D20<BR>>time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are =
screwy from=20
removing=3D20<BR>>and reinserting the cards? =
=3D20<BR>><BR>>This is=20
amazing how one little thing can ruin a good business.<BR>>Well =
maybe it's=20
10 little things but. . =
..=3D20<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>> <BR>> =20
"Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&g=
t; =20
Hi Tom,<BR>><BR>> I have the same old Magma, and it =
doesn't=20
require any drivers.<BR>><BR>> I'd try booting Windows XP =
with no=20
EDS cards in, then one, then two, =3D<BR>>etc.,<BR>> until =
you can=20
find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the=20
=3D<BR>>Magma,<BR>> I believe Windows would fail even if =
no cards=20
were in it. You may =3D<BR>>want to<BR>> test it =
with another=20
PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong about that.<BR>=3D<BR>>=20
It<BR>> sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the =
PARIS=20
driver for a =3D<BR>>shit<BR>> when it tries to =
innitialize any 442s=20
that are attached (that happens<BR>=3D<BR>>on<BR>> start=20
up).<BR>><BR>> Good luck!<BR>><BR>> =20
Mike<BR>> =3D20<BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >Most =
Excellent=20
Fix It Guys,<BR>> >New problem. Just installed a new =
Antec=20
550 watt supply.<BR>> >Powers up nicely in the =
Magma. It=20
will run with 5 EDS cards<BR>> >then shut off just before =
XP boots=20
and screws the whole shootin' =3D<BR>>match.<BR>> >I'll =
double=20
check seating of the cards but what else would have=20
made<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >even<BR>> >the =
new supply=20
to croak? Fans are cooling well too.<BR>> =
><BR>> =20
>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . =
? The=20
Magma?<BR>> >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If =
so I'd=20
need older ones. The =3D<BR>>Magma<BR>> >tech was =
almost=20
laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the =3D<BR>>far =
=3D3D<BR>> >left<BR>> >for the Magma =
card. The=20
newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as =3D<BR>>you =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>face the front.<BR>> >I think mine's the opposite =
judging by=20
my master card placement.<BR>> ><BR>> =
>Everything is=20
broken it seems.<BR>> >Tom<BR>> =
><BR>> =20
> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
=3D3D<BR>> >news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> =
> I=20
can't believe this one but . . .=3D3D20<BR>> =
><BR>> =20
> I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it =
won't<BR>> > start up and keep running. This =
began=20
tonight as<BR>> > I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec=20
setup. The Magma<BR>> > would power on for a =
split=20
second then stop. I'm thinking<BR>> > power=20
supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 =
Mec<BR>> =20
> if I baby it.<BR>> ><BR>> > =
Once it's=20
off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.<BR>> =
> =20
Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there=20
was=3D3D20<BR>> > a auto shut off mechanism built in =
to the=20
Magma. I didn't see =3D3D<BR>> =
>anything<BR>> =20
> about that in the manual.<BR>> ><BR>> =20
> ? ? ?<BR>> ><BR>> > Why=20
Me???<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > I =
choose=20
Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?<BR>> > <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
..html</A> =20
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><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a =
=3D<BR>>new=20
=3D3D<BR>> >Antec 550=3D3D20<BR>> >watt=20
supply.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. =
=3D<BR>>It=20
=3D3D<BR>> >will run=3D3D20<BR>> >with 5 EDS=20
cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>then shut off just before XP =
=3D<BR>>boots=20
and<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >screws =
the=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'll double =
check seating=20
of the<BR>=3D<BR>>cards<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >but=20
what=3D3D20<BR>> >else would have made=20
even</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans =
=3D<BR>>are=20
=3D3D<BR>> >cooling=3D3D20<BR>> >well=20
too.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm thinking =
I have a=20
broken EDS<BR>=3D<BR>>then =3D3D<BR>> >? =
Maybe=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are =
there Magma=20
=3D3D<BR>> >drivers? If so=3D3D20<BR>> >I'd =
need older=20
ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at =
how<BR>=3D<BR>>old=20
=3D3D<BR>> >mine is. =3D3D20<BR>> >It has a =
slot on the=20
far left</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >one's slot=3D3D20<BR>> =
>#s go 1-13 rt=20
to left as you face the front.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I think =
mine's the=20
opposite =3D<BR>>judging by<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>my=20
master=3D3D20<BR>> >card=20
placement.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Everything is =
broken it=20
=3D3D<BR>> >seems.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV& ;gt; <BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> ><BLOCKQUOTE =
dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px;=20
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0px"><BR>> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D<BR>> >in =
message=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
<A =3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:47=
0d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=
> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I =
can't believe=20
this one but .<BR>=3D<BR>>. . =3D3D<BR>> =20
></FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I've =
had 5 cards=20
in a 13 slot<BR>=3D<BR>>Magma =3D3D<BR>> =
>for=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>start =
up and keep=20
running. =3D<BR>>This =3D3D<BR>> =
>began=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> tonight as</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I tried adding =
Mec #2 to a 1=20
=3D<BR>>Mec =3D3D<BR>> >setup. The=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>would power on for a split =
=3D<BR>>second=20
=3D3D<BR>> >then=3D3D20<BR>> > stop. I'm =
thinking</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>power supply. It might still=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >work with all=3D3D20<BR>> =
> 5=20
cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>if I baby=20
it.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Once =
it's off I=20
have to =3D<BR>>unplug, wait,<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>replug=20
and=3D3D20<BR>> > start=20
again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with =
=3D<BR>>one Mec=20
=3D3D<BR>> >then. I=3D3D20<BR>> > =
thought there was=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>a auto shut off mechanism =
=3D<BR>>built in=20
to<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >the=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>about that in the =
=3D3D<BR>> >manual.</FONT></DIV><BR >> =
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =
Polesoft=20
Lockspam to fight =3D<BR>>spam,<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =20
>and=3D3D20<BR>> > =
you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re'>h=
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Mike,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I think Windows will boot fine, at =3D<BR>>least it =
used=20
=
to=3D20<BR>>with</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes =
=3D<BR>>as=20
soon as I=3D20<BR>>attach=20
a</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>scsi cable to any of my three new=20
=
=3D<BR>>working=3D20<BR>>mecs.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><=
DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It didn't a couple of days=20
=3D<BR>>ago.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I'm digging deeper into the way the =3D<BR>>cards=20
are=3D20<BR>>seated =
now.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I will check the Magma with one card =
=3D<BR>>and=20
one=3D20<BR>>interface at a=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>time. Maybe the scherzo drivers =3D<BR>>are=20
screwy=3D20<BR>>from removing=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>and reinserting the cards? =20
=3D<BR>></FONT></DIV><BR >><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>This is amazing how one little thing =3D<BR>>can ruin =
a=3D20<BR>>good =
business.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Well maybe it's 10 little things but.=20
=
..<BR>=3D<BR>>.=3D20<BR>></FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV>=
;<FONT=20
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV>=20
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
=
</DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR >>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
0px;=20
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
2px solid;=20
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Mike Audet" =
<Mike@...>=20
wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=3D=
20'>news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV&=
gt;<BR>Hi=3D20</A><BR>> =20
Tom,<BR><BR>I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't =
require=20
any=3D20<BR>> drivers.<BR><BR>I'd try booting =
Windows XP=20
with no EDS cards in, then<BR>=3D<BR>>one,=3D20<BR>> then =
two,=20
etc.,<BR>until you can find the problem. If it is the=20
=3D<BR>>bridge=3D20<BR>> chips in the Magma,<BR>I =
believe=20
Windows would fail even if no cards =3D<BR>>were =
in=3D20<BR>> =20
it. You may want to<BR>test it with another PCI card in it =
just=20
=3D<BR>>in case=3D20<BR>> I'm wrong about that. =20
It<BR>sounds to me like a bad card that is =
=3D<BR>><BR>> =20
throwing the PARIS driver for a shit<BR>when it tries to =
innitialize=20
=3D<BR>>any 442s=3D20<BR>> that are attached (that happens =
on<BR>start up).<BR><BR>Good=3D20<BR>> =20
luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR& gt; =
<BR><BR>"Tom=20
Bruhl" <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t; =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Most Excellent Fix It=20
Guys,<BR>>New=3D20<BR>> problem. Just =
installed a new=20
Antec 550 watt =3D<BR>>supply.<BR>>Powers =
up=3D20<BR>> nicely=20
in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards<BR>>then=20
=3D<BR>>shut off=3D20<BR>> just before XP boots and screws =
the whole=20
shootin' match.<BR>>I'll =3D<BR>>double=3D20<BR>> =
check=20
seating of the cards but what else would have made=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>even<BR>> ;the new supply to croak? =
Fans are=20
cooling =3D<BR>>well=3D20<BR>> =
too.<BR>><BR>>I'm= 20
thinking I have a broken EDS then ? =3D<BR>>Maybe 3 .=20
.=3D20<BR>> . ? The Magma?<BR>>Damn. Are =
there=20
Magma drivers? =3D<BR>>If so=3D20<BR>> I'd need =
older=20
ones. The Magma<BR>>tech was almost laughing =
=3D<BR>>at=20
how=3D20<BR>> old mine is. It has a slot on the far=20
=3D3D<BR>>left<BR>> ;for =3D<BR>>the =
Magma=3D20<BR>> =20
card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>face=3D20<BR >> the =
front.<BR>>I=20
think mine's the opposite judging by my master =
=3D<BR>>card=3D20<BR>> =20
placement.<BR>><BR>&g t;Everything is broken =
it=3D20<BR>> =20
seems.<BR>>Tom<BR>> ;<BR>> "Tom Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
wrote =3D<BR>>in message=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> I =
can't believe=20
this =3D<BR>>one but .=3D20<BR>> .=20
.=3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I've had 5 cards in a 13 =
slot Magma=20
for =3D<BR>><BR>> years. Now it =
won't<BR>> =20
start up and keep =3D<BR>>running. This=3D20<BR>> =
began tonight=20
as<BR>> I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
=3D<BR>>setup.=20
=3D20<BR>> The Magma<BR>> would power on for a =
split=20
second then =3D<BR>>stop. I'm=3D20<BR>> =20
thinking<BR>> power supply. It might still work =
with=20
=3D<BR>>all 5=3D20<BR>> cards and 1 =
Mec<BR>> if I baby=20
it.<BR>><BR>>& nbsp; Once =
=3D<BR>>it's=3D20<BR>> off=20
I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>>Maybe it=3D20<BR>> will start up with one Mec =
then. I=20
thought there =3D<BR>>was=3D3D20<BR>> =
a=3D20<BR>> auto=20
shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't =
see=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>anything<BR>&am p;gt; about that in=20
the=3D20<BR>> manual.<BR>><BR>>& amp;nbsp; ? ?=20
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Me???<BR>><BR>>&am p;lt;BR>> I choose =
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=3D3D<BR>>Guys,</FONT>&am p;lt;/DIV><BR>><DIV&g t=
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face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a new=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>Antec=3D20<BR >> =
550=3D3D20<BR>>watt=20
=
=3D<BR> >supply.</FONT></DIV>& ;lt;BR>><DIV><F=
ONT=3D20<BR>> =20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>will=3D20<BR >> =
run=3D3D20<BR>>with 5=20
EDS=3D20<BR>> =20
cards</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>then =
shut off just=20
before XP boots =
=3D<BR> >and<BR>=3D3D<BR>> screws=3D20 <BR>> =20
the=3D3D20<BR>>whole shootin'=3D20<BR>> =20
match.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>I'll =
double check=20
seating of the cards<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but =
=3D<BR>><BR>> =20
what=3D3D20<BR>>else would have made=3D20<BR>> =20
even</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>the new =
supply to=20
croak? Fans are=20
=
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=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>><DIV&am p;gt;<FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>I'm =
thinking I have a=20
broken EDS then =3D3D<BR>>?=20
=3D<BR>>Maybe=3D3D20<BR>>3=3D20 <BR>> . . . ? The=20
Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>><BR>> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are =
there Magma=20
=3D3D<BR>>drivers? =3D<BR>>If=3D20<BR>> =20
so=3D3D20<BR>>I'd need older ones. The=3D20<BR>> =20
Magma</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>tech =
was almost=20
laughing at how old =3D3D<BR>>mine is.=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D20<BR>>It has a slot on the far=3D20<BR>> =20
left</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>for the =
Magma card. The=20
newer =3D3D<BR>>one's =3D<BR>>slot=3D3D20<BR>>#s=20
go=3D20<BR>> 1-13 rt to left as you face =
the=3D20<BR>> =20
front.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>I think =
mine's the=20
opposite judging by<BR>=3D3D<BR>>my=3D20<BR >> =20
master=3D3D20<BR>>card=3D20<BR>> =20
placement.</FONT></DIV><B R>><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>><DIV&am p;gt;<FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D2>Everything is broken=20
it=3D20<BR>> =20
=
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=3D3D<BR>></FONT>< /DIV><BR>> =20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
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<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I've had 5 cards =
in a=20
=3D<BR>>13 slot=3D20<BR>> Magma=20
=3D3D<BR>>for=3D3D20<BR>& amp;gt; years. Now =
it=3D20<BR>> =20
won't</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;> <DIV><FONT =
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>start =
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as</FONT></DIV><BR> ;> =20
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size=3D3D3D2>I tried=20
adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>setup.=3D20<BR >> =20
The=3D3D20<BR>> =
Magma</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;>=20
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>would power=20
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=3D3D<BR>>then=3D3D20<BR> > stop. =
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baby=3D20<BR>> =20
it.</FONT></DIV><BR&g t;> <DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> =
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Once it's off I have to =
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wait,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>replug =
and=3D3D20<BR>> =20
start=3D20<BR>> =
again.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;> =20
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size=3D3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec=20
=3D3D<BR>>then.=3D20<BR>> =
I=3D3D20<BR>> thought=20
there was =3D<BR> ></FONT></DIV><BR& amp;gt;> =
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didn't=20
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Tom Bruhl
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David,
I think I've tried that with the same results but let me try again.
I'm just about to hit the studio.
Tom
"EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:470fbe30@linux...
Try hooking the MEC's up but NOT hooking them to A/C... as in "off"
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> I think Windows will boot fine, at least it used to with
> all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach a
> scsi cable to any of my three new working mecs.
> It didn't a couple of days ago.
> =20
> I'm digging deeper into the way the cards are seated now.
> I will check the Magma with one card and one interface at a
> time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from removing
> and reinserting the cards?=20
> =20
> This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good business.
> Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . .
> Tom
> =20
> =20
> =20
>=20
> "Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message =
news:470f58fa$1@linux...
>=20
> Hi Tom,
>=20
> I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any drivers.
>=20
> I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then one, then =
two,
> etc.,
> until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in =
the Magma,
> I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. You =
may
> want to
> test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong about
> that. It
> sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS driver =
for a
> shit
> when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached (that =
happens on
> start up).
>=20
> Good luck!
>=20
> Mike
> =20
>=20
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> =
wrote:
> >
> >
> >Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
> >New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
> >Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
> >then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole =
shootin'
> match.
> >I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would =
have made =3D
> >even
> >the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
> >
> >I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The =
Magma?
> >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. =
The Magma
> >tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on =
the
> far =3D
> >left
> >for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to =
left as
> you =3D
> >face the front.
> >I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card =
placement.
> >
> >Everything is broken it seems.
> >Tom
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> wrote in message =3D
> >news:470d9f41$1@linux...
> > I can't believe this one but . . .=3D20
> >
> > I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> > start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> > I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> > would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> > power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 =
Mec
> > if I baby it.
> >
> > Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start =
again.
> > Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =
was=3D20
> > a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't =
see =3D
> >anything
> > about that in the manual.
> >
> > ? ? ?
> >
> > Why Me???
> >
> >
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
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> ><STYLE></STYLE>
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =3D
> >Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>New problem. Just =
installed a new =3D
> >Antec 550=3D20
> >watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the =
Magma. It =3D
> >will run=3D20
> >with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>then shut off just before =
XP
> boots and
> =3D
> >screws the=3D20
> >whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'll double check seating =
of the
> cards
> =3D
> >but what=3D20
> >else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>the new supply to croak? =
Fans are =3D
> >cooling=3D20
> >well too.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a =
broken EDS
> then =3D
> >? Maybe=3D20
> >3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =3D
> >drivers? If so=3D20
> >I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>tech was almost laughing =
at how old =3D
> >mine is. =3D20
> >It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>for the Magma card. The =
newer =3D
> >one's slot=3D20
> >#s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the front.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think mine's the =
opposite
> judging by
> =3D
> >my master=3D20
> >card placement.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Everything is broken it =
=3D
> >seems.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; =3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>> wrote =3D
> >in message=3D20
> > <A
> =
href=3D3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV
> <news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV>>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can't believe this =
one but .
> . . =3D
> ></FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a =
13 slot
> Magma =3D
> >for=3D20
> > years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>start up and keep =
running. This =3D
> >began=3D20
> > tonight as</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 =
to a 1 Mec =3D
> >setup. The=3D20
> > Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would power on for a =
split second =3D
> >then=3D20
> > stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>power supply. It might =
still =3D
> >work with all=3D20
> > 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>if I baby =
it.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to =
unplug,
> wait,
> =3D
> >replug and=3D20
> > start again.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up =
with one
> Mec =3D
> >then. I=3D20
> > thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a auto shut off =
mechanism built
> in to
> =3D
> >the=3D20
> > Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>about that in the =3D
> >manual.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight
> spam,
> =3D
> >and=3D20
> > you?<BR><A=3D20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think I've tried that with the same =
results but=20
let me try again.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"EK Sound" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:ask_me@nospam.net">ask_me@nospam.net</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
href=3D"news:470fbe30@linux">news:470fbe30@linux</A>...</DIV>Try =
hooking the=20
MEC's up but NOT hooking them to A/C... as in =
"off"<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Tom=20
Bruhl wrote:<BR><BR>> Hi Mike,<BR>> I think Windows will boot =
fine, at=20
least it used to with<BR>> all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes =
as soon=20
as I attach a<BR>> scsi cable to any of my three new working =
mecs.<BR>>=20
It didn't a couple of days ago.<BR>> <BR>> I'm digging =
deeper into=20
the way the cards are seated now.<BR>> I will check the Magma with =
one card=20
and one interface at a<BR>> time. Maybe the scherzo drivers =
are=20
screwy from removing<BR>> and reinserting the cards? <BR>> =
<BR>> This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good=20
business.<BR>> Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . .<BR>>=20
Tom<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>=20
<BR>> "Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote =
in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=20
<BR>> Hi Tom,<BR>>=20
<BR>> I have the same old Magma, and it =
doesn't=20
require any drivers.<BR>> <BR>> I'd try =
booting=20
Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then one, then=20
two,<BR>> =
etc.,<BR>> =20
until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the =
Magma,<BR>> I believe Windows would fail =
even if no=20
cards were in it. You may<BR>> want=20
to<BR>> test it with another PCI card in it =
just in=20
case I'm wrong about<BR>> that. =20
It<BR>> sounds to me like a bad card that =
is=20
throwing the PARIS driver for a<BR>> =20
shit<BR>> when it tries to innitialize any =
442s=20
that are attached (that happens on<BR>> =
start=20
up).<BR>> <BR>> Good luck!<BR>>=20
<BR>> =20
Mike<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; <BR>>=20
<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A> <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;=20
wrote:<BR> > =2 0
><BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >Most Excellent Fix It=20
Guys,<BR>> >New problem. =
Just=20
installed a new Antec 550 watt =
supply.<BR> > =2 0
>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS=20
cards<BR>> >then shut off just =
before XP=20
boots and screws the whole shootin'<BR>> =20
match.<BR>> >I'll double check =
seating of=20
the cards but what else would have made=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>even<BR>> >the new supply to=20
croak? Fans are cooling well =
too.<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >I'm thinking I have a =
broken=20
EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The=20
Magma?<BR>> >Damn. Are there =
Magma=20
drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The=20
Magma<BR>> >tech was almost =
laughing at=20
how old mine is. It has a slot on =
the<BR>> =20
far =3D<BR> > =2 0
>left<BR>> >for the Magma =
card. =20
The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left =
as<BR>> =20
you =3D<BR>> >face the=20
front.<BR>> >I think mine's the =
opposite=20
judging by my master card =
placement.<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >Everything is broken it =
seems.<BR> > =2 0
>Tom<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A> <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;<BR>> =20
wrote in message =3D<BR> > =2 0
>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> =
> =20
I can't believe this one but . . =
..=3D20<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> > I've had 5 cards =
in a 13=20
slot Magma for years. Now it =
won't<BR> > =2 0
> start up and keep running. This began tonight=20
as<BR>> > I tried adding Mec =
#2 to a=20
1 Mec setup. The Magma<BR>> =
> =20
would power on for a split second then stop. I'm=20
thinking<BR>> > power =
supply. =20
It might still work with all 5 cards and 1=20
Mec<BR>> > if I baby=20
it.<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> > Once it's off I =
have to=20
unplug, wait, replug and start =
again.<BR> > =2 0
> Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought =
there=20
was=3D20<BR>> > a auto shut =
off=20
mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>anything<BR>> > about =
that in=20
the manual.<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> > ? ?=20
?<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> > Why=20
Me???<BR> > =2 0
><BR> > =2 0
><BR>> > I choose =
Polesoft=20
Lockspam to fight spam, and you?<BR>> =
> <A=20
=
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<BR> > =2 0
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=3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>New problem. Just =
installed a=20
new =3D<BR>> >Antec=20
550=3D20<BR>> >watt=20
supply.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Powers up nicely =
in the=20
Magma. It =3D<BR>> >will=20
run=3D20<BR>> >with 5 EDS=20
cards</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>then shut off =
just before=20
XP<BR>> boots =
and<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >screws=20
the=3D20<BR>> >whole shootin'=20
match.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'll double check =
seating of=20
the<BR>> =
cards<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >but=20
what=3D20<BR>> >else would have =
made=20
even</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>the new supply to =
croak? Fans=20
are =3D<BR> > =2 0
>cooling=3D20<BR>> >well=20
too.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken=20
EDS<BR>> then=20
=3D<BR>> >?=20
Maybe=3D20<BR>> >3 . . . ? The=20
Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Damn. Are there =
Magma=20
=3D<BR>> >drivers? If=20
so=3D20<BR>> >I'd need older ones. =
The=20
Magma</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>tech was almost =
laughing at=20
how old =3D<BR>> >mine is.=20
=3D20<BR>> >It has a slot on the =
far=20
left</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>for the Magma =
card. The newer=20
=3D<BR>> >one's=20
slot=3D20<BR>> >#s go 1-13 rt to =
left as you=20
face the =
front.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think mine's =
the=20
opposite<BR>> judging=20
by<BR>> =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>my master=3D20<BR>> >card=20
=
placement.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
=20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Everything is broken it=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>seems.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
=20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
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size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>>  =
; =20
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> href=3D3D"<A=20
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=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>>=20
wrote =3D<BR>> >in=20
message=3D20<BR>> > =20
<A<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:47=
0d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A><BR>>=
=20
<<A=20
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<BR> > =2 0
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can't =
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=3D<BR> > =2 0
></FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a =
13=20
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=3D<BR> > =2 0
>for=3D20<BR>> > years. =
Now it=20
won't</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>start up =
and keep=20
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>began=3D20<BR>> > =
tonight=20
as</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 =
to a 1 Mec=20
=3D<BR>> >setup.=20
The=3D20<BR>> > =20
Magma</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would =
power on for a=20
split second =3D<BR> > =2 0
>then=3D20<BR>> > stop. =
I'm=20
=
thinking</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>power =
supply. It might=20
still =3D<BR>> >work with=20
all=3D20<BR>> > 5 cards and =
1=20
Mec</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>if I baby=20
it.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have =
to=20
unplug,<BR>> =
wait,<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >replug=20
and=3D20<BR>> > start=20
again.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Maybe it =
will start up=20
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=3D<BR>> >then.=20
I=3D20<BR>> > thought there =
was=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a auto shut off =
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=3D<BR> > =2 0
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see =
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Got everything out of magma, reseated it's card.
Booted computer fine with nothing in magma.
Tried one eds, computer still booted fine.
Tried booting with Mec attached but off no probs.
Tried with mec on booted fine but am back to no
clock or modules showing in Mec with Paris started.
I forgot to disattach the second Mecs clock from the first
and it was off. It may be why but I doubt it.
I'm off to a crazy weekend but at this point am thinking
the Magma is toast. ? ? ?
I'll be back to hear your replies in 6 hours or so.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470fc436@linux...
The Magma power supply just stops after about 45 seconds
so windows freaks and won't finish starting up.
"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:470fbd61@linux...
Hi Tom,
Hmmm...does it fail when windows starts if the MECs are connected or =
when
PARIS starts?
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hi Mike,
>I think Windows will boot fine, at least it used to with
>all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach a
>scsi cable to any of my three new working mecs.
>It didn't a couple of days ago.
>
>I'm digging deeper into the way the cards are seated now.
>I will check the Magma with one card and one interface at a=3D20
>time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from removing=3D20
>and reinserting the cards? =3D20
>
>This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good business.
>Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . .=3D20
>Tom
>
>
>
> "Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message news:470f58fa$1@linux...
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any drivers.
>
> I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then one, then =
two, =3D
>etc.,
> until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the =
=3D
>Magma,
> I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. You =
may =3D
>want to
> test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong about =
that.
=3D
> It
> sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS driver =
for a =3D
>shit
> when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached (that =
happens
=3D
>on
> start up).
>
> Good luck!
>
> Mike
> =3D20
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
> >New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
> >Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
> >then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
=3D
>match.
> >I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have =
made
=3D
>=3D3D
> >even
> >the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
> >
> >I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The =
Magma?
> >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The =
=3D
>Magma
> >tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on =
the =3D
>far =3D3D
> >left
> >for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left =
as =3D
>you =3D3D
> >face the front.
> >I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.
> >
> >Everything is broken it seems.
> >Tom
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D3D
> >news:470d9f41$1@linux...
> > I can't believe this one but . . .=3D3D20
> >
> > I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> > start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> > I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> > would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> > power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
> > if I baby it.
> >
> > Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
> > Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =
was=3D3D20
> > a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =
=3D3D
> >anything
> > about that in the manual.
> >
> > ? ? ?
> >
> > Why Me???
> >
> >
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
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> >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
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> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =
=3D3D
> >Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>New problem. Just =
installed a =3D
>new =3D3D
> >Antec 550=3D3D20
> >watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the =
Magma. =3D
>It =3D3D
> >will run=3D3D20
> >with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>then shut off just =
before XP =3D
>boots and
> =3D3D
> >screws the=3D3D20
> >whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'll double check =
seating of the
=3D
>cards
> =3D3D
> >but what=3D3D20
> >else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>the new supply to =
croak? Fans =3D
>are =3D3D
> >cooling=3D3D20
> >well too.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a =
broken EDS
=3D
>then =3D3D
> >? Maybe=3D3D20
> >3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =
=3D3D
> >drivers? If so=3D3D20
> >I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>tech was almost =
laughing at how
=3D
>old =3D3D
> >mine is. =3D3D20
> >It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>for the Magma card. The =
newer =3D
>=3D3D
> >one's slot=3D3D20
> >#s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the front.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I think mine's the =
opposite =3D
>judging by
> =3D3D
> >my master=3D3D20
> >card placement.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Everything is broken it =
=3D3D
> >seems.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20
> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; =3D
>=3D3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =3D
>wrote =3D3D
> >in message=3D3D20
> > <A =3D
=
>href=3D3D3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I can't believe this =
one but .
=3D
>. . =3D3D
> ></FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a =
13 slot
=3D
>Magma =3D3D
> >for=3D3D20
> > years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>start up and keep =
running. =3D
>This =3D3D
> >began=3D3D20
> > tonight as</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 =
to a 1 =3D
>Mec =3D3D
> >setup. The=3D3D20
> > Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>would power on for a =
split =3D
>second =3D3D
> >then=3D3D20
> > stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>power supply. It =
might still =3D
>=3D3D
> >work with all=3D3D20
> > 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>if I baby =
it.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Once it's off I have =
to =3D
>unplug, wait,
> =3D3D
> >replug and=3D3D20
> > start again.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Maybe it will start =
up with =3D
>one Mec =3D3D
> >then. I=3D3D20
> > thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>a auto shut off =
mechanism =3D
>built in to
> =3D3D
> >the=3D3D20
> > Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>about that in the =
=3D3D
> >manual.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Why =
Me???</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight =3D
>spam,
> =3D3D
> >and=3D3D20
> > you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
/re=3D
>fer=3D3D
> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
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><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi Mike,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think Windows will boot =
fine, at =3D
>least it used to=3D20
>with</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>all 5 cards in it. Now it =
chokes =3D
>as soon as I=3D20
>attach a</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>scsi cable to any of my three =
new =3D
>working=3D20
>mecs.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It didn't a couple of days =3D
>ago.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm digging deeper into the =
way the =3D
>cards are=3D20
>seated now.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I will check the Magma with =
one card =3D
>and one=3D20
>interface at a </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>time. Maybe the scherzo =
drivers =3D
>are screwy=3D20
>from removing </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and reinserting the cards? =
=3D
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This is amazing how one little =
thing =3D
>can ruin a=3D20
>good business.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Well maybe it's 10 little =
things but. .
=3D
>.=3D20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>H=
i=3D20
> Tom,<BR><BR>I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require =
any=3D20
> drivers.<BR><BR>I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, =
then
=3D
>one,=3D20
> then two, etc.,<BR>until you can find the problem. If it is the =
=3D
>bridge=3D20
> chips in the Magma,<BR>I believe Windows would fail even if no =
cards =3D
>were in=3D20
> it. You may want to<BR>test it with another PCI card in it just =
=3D
>in case=3D20
> I'm wrong about that. It<BR>sounds to me like a bad card that is =
=3D
>
> throwing the PARIS driver for a shit<BR>when it tries to =
innitialize =3D
>any 442s=3D20
> that are attached (that happens on<BR>start up).<BR><BR>Good=3D20
> luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR> <BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Most Excellent Fix It Guys,<BR>>New=3D20
> problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt =3D
>supply.<BR>>Powers up=3D20
> nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards<BR>>then =3D
>shut off=3D20
> just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
match.<BR>>I'll =3D
>double=3D20
> check seating of the cards but what else would have made=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>even<BR>>the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling =3D
>well=3D20
> too.<BR>><BR>>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? =3D
>Maybe 3 . .=3D20
> . ? The Magma?<BR>>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? =3D
>If so=3D20
> I'd need older ones. The Magma<BR>>tech was almost laughing =3D
>at how=3D20
> old mine is. It has a slot on the far =3D3D<BR>>left<BR>>for =3D
>the Magma=3D20
> card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>face=3D20
> the front.<BR>>I think mine's the opposite judging by my master =
=3D
>card=3D20
> placement.<BR>><BR>>Everything is broken it=3D20
> seems.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote =3D
>in message=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> I can't believe this =3D
>one but .=3D20
> . .=3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for =3D
>
> years. Now it won't<BR>> start up and keep =3D
>running. This=3D20
> began tonight as<BR>> I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =3D
>setup. =3D20
> The Magma<BR>> would power on for a split second then =3D
>stop. I'm=3D20
> thinking<BR>> power supply. It might still work with =3D
>all 5=3D20
> cards and 1 Mec<BR>> if I baby it.<BR>><BR>> Once =3D
>it's=3D20
> off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.<BR>> =3D
>Maybe it=3D20
> will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =3D
>was=3D3D20<BR>> a=3D20
> auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>anything<BR>> about that in the=3D20
> manual.<BR>><BR>> ? ? ?<BR>><BR>> Why=3D20
> Me???<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =3D
>fight spam,=3D20
> and you?<BR>> <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
>.html</A> =3D20
> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> =3D
>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
>D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Most=3D20
> Excellent Fix It=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a new =
=3D
>=3D3D<BR>>Antec=3D20
> 550=3D3D20<BR>>watt =3D
>supply.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It =
=3D
>=3D3D<BR>>will=3D20
> run=3D3D20<BR>>with 5 EDS=3D20
> cards</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>then shut off just before XP boots =3D
>and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>screws=3D20
> the=3D3D20<BR>>whole shootin'=3D20
> match.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>I'll double check seating of the =
cards<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but =3D
>
> what=3D3D20<BR>>else would have made=3D20
> even</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans are =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>cooling=3D3D20<BR>>well=3D20
> too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then =3D3D<BR>>? =
=3D
>Maybe=3D3D20<BR>>3=3D20
> . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =
=3D3D<BR>>drivers? =3D
>If=3D20
> so=3D3D20<BR>>I'd need older ones. The=3D20
> Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =3D3D<BR>>mine =
is.=3D20
> =3D3D20<BR>>It has a slot on the far=3D20
> left</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =3D3D<BR>>one's =3D
>slot=3D3D20<BR>>#s go=3D20
> 1-13 rt to left as you face the=3D20
> front.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>I think mine's the opposite judging =
by<BR>=3D3D<BR>>my=3D20
> master=3D3D20<BR>>card=3D20
> placement.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>Everything is broken it=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>seems.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
PADDING-LEFT: =3D
>5px;=3D20
> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =3D
>MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D20
> 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" =3D
><<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> <A href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news=
:47=3D
>0d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=3D
>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I can't believe this =3D
>one but . .=3D20
> . =3D3D<BR>></FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a =
=3D
>13 slot=3D20
> Magma =3D3D<BR>>for=3D3D20<BR>> years. Now it=3D20
> won't</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>start up and keep running. This =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>began=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> tonight as</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
=3D
>=3D3D<BR>>setup.=3D20
> The=3D3D20<BR>> Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>would power on for a =3D
>split second=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>then=3D3D20<BR>> stop. I'm=3D20
> thinking</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>power supply. It might still =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>work with=3D20
> all=3D3D20<BR>> 5 cards and 1 =3D
>Mec</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>if I baby=3D20
> it.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Once it's off I have to =
unplug,=3D20
> wait,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>replug and=3D3D20<BR>> start=3D20
> again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec =
=3D3D<BR>>then.=3D20
> I=3D3D20<BR>> thought there was =3D
></FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>a auto shut off =3D
>mechanism built=3D20
> in to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D20<BR>> Magma. I didn't see=3D20
> anything</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>about that in the=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>manual.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>? ?=3D20
> ?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
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> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Got everything out of magma, reseated =
it's=20
card.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Booted computer fine with nothing in=20
magma.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tried one eds, computer still booted=20
fine.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tried booting with Mec attached but off =
no=20
probs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tried with mec on booted fine but am =
back to=20
no</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>clock or modules showing in Mec with =
Paris=20
started.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I forgot to disattach the second Mecs =
clock from=20
the first</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and it was off. It may be why but =
I doubt=20
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm off to a crazy weekend but at this =
point am=20
thinking</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the Magma is toast. ? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll be back to hear your replies in 6 =
hours or=20
so.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:470fc436@linux">news:470fc436@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Magma power supply just stops =
after about 45=20
seconds</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>so windows freaks and won't finish =
starting=20
up.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:470fbd61@linux">news:470fbd61@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=20
Tom,<BR><BR>Hmmm...does it fail when windows starts if the MECs are=20
connected or when<BR>PARIS starts?<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Hi Mike,<BR>>I think Windows will =
boot=20
fine, at least it used to with<BR>>all 5 cards in it. Now =
it chokes=20
as soon as I attach a<BR>>scsi cable to any of my three new =
working=20
mecs.<BR>>It didn't a couple of days ago.<BR>><BR>>I'm =
digging=20
deeper into the way the cards are seated now.<BR>>I will check =
the Magma=20
with one card and one interface at a=3D20<BR>>time. Maybe =
the scherzo=20
drivers are screwy from removing=3D20<BR>>and reinserting the =
cards?=20
=3D20<BR>><BR>>This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a =
good=20
business.<BR>>Well maybe it's 10 little things but. .=20
.=3D20<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>> <BR>> "Mike Audet" =
<Mike@...> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&g=
t; =20
Hi Tom,<BR>><BR>> I have the same old Magma, and it =
doesn't=20
require any drivers.<BR>><BR>> I'd try booting Windows =
XP with=20
no EDS cards in, then one, then two, =3D<BR>>etc.,<BR>> =
until you=20
can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the=20
=3D<BR>>Magma,<BR>> I believe Windows would fail even if =
no cards=20
were in it. You may =3D<BR>>want to<BR>> test it =
with=20
another PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong about =
that.<BR>=3D<BR>>=20
It<BR>> sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the =
PARIS=20
driver for a =3D<BR>>shit<BR>> when it tries to =
innitialize any=20
442s that are attached (that happens<BR>=3D<BR>>on<BR>> =
start=20
up).<BR>><BR>> Good luck!<BR>><BR>> =20
Mike<BR>> =3D20<BR>><BR>> "Tom =
Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >Most=20
Excellent Fix It Guys,<BR>> >New problem. Just =
installed a=20
new Antec 550 watt supply.<BR>> >Powers up nicely in the =
Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards<BR>> >then =
shut off=20
just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin'=20
=3D<BR>>match.<BR>> >I'll double check seating of the =
cards but=20
what else would have made<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>even<BR>> >the new supply to croak? Fans are =
cooling=20
well too.<BR>> ><BR>> >I'm thinking I have a =
broken=20
EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?<BR>> =20
>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older=20
ones. The =3D<BR>>Magma<BR>> >tech was almost =
laughing at=20
how old mine is. It has a slot on the =3D<BR>>far =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>left<BR>> >for the Magma card. The newer one's =
slot #s=20
go 1-13 rt to left as =3D<BR>>you =3D3D<BR>> >face =
the=20
front.<BR>> >I think mine's the opposite judging by my =
master=20
card placement.<BR>> ><BR>> >Everything is =
broken it=20
seems.<BR>> >Tom<BR>> ><BR>> =
> =20
"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message =3D3D<BR>> =
>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> =20
> I can't believe this one but . . .=3D3D20<BR>> =20
><BR>> > I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma =
for=20
years. Now it won't<BR>> > start up and keep =
running. This began tonight as<BR>> > I =
tried adding=20
Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma<BR>> > =
would=20
power on for a split second then stop. I'm =
thinking<BR>> =20
> power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards =
and 1=20
Mec<BR>> > if I baby it.<BR>> =
><BR>> =20
> Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start=20
again.<BR>> > Maybe it will start up with one Mec=20
then. I thought there was=3D3D20<BR>> > a =
auto shut=20
off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>anything<BR>> > about that in the=20
manual.<BR>> ><BR>> > ? ? =
?<BR>> =20
><BR>> > Why Me???<BR>> =
><BR>> =20
><BR>> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, and=20
you?<BR>> > <A=20
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href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
..html</A> =20
=3D20<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC=20
"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =20
><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=20
http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
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bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =3D3D<BR>> =20
>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a =
=3D<BR>>new=20
=3D3D<BR>> >Antec 550=3D3D20<BR>> >watt=20
supply.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. =
=3D<BR>>It=20
=3D3D<BR>> >will run=3D3D20<BR>> >with 5 EDS =
cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>then shut off just before XP =
=3D<BR>>boots=20
and<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >screws =
the=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'll double =
check=20
seating of the<BR>=3D<BR>>cards<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>but=20
what=3D3D20<BR>> >else would have made=20
even</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans =
=3D<BR>>are=20
=3D3D<BR>> >cooling=3D3D20<BR>> >well=20
too.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm =
thinking I have a=20
broken EDS<BR>=3D<BR>>then =3D3D<BR>> >? =
Maybe=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are =
there Magma=20
=3D3D<BR>> >drivers? If so=3D3D20<BR>> >I'd =
need older=20
ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>tech was =
almost=20
laughing at how<BR>=3D<BR>>old =3D3D<BR>> >mine is.=20
=3D3D20<BR>> >It has a slot on the far=20
left</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >one's slot=3D3D20<BR>> =
>#s go 1-13=20
rt to left as you face the =
front.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I think =
mine's the=20
opposite =3D<BR>>judging by<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>my=20
master=3D3D20<BR>> >card=20
placement.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Everything =
is broken it=20
=3D3D<BR>> =
>seems.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV& ;gt; <BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> ><BLOCKQUOTE =
dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
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0px"><BR>> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D<BR>> >in =
message=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> <A =3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:47=
0d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=
> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I =
can't believe=20
this one but .<BR>=3D<BR>>. . =3D3D<BR>> =20
></FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I've =
had 5 cards=20
in a 13 slot<BR>=3D<BR>>Magma =3D3D<BR>> =
>for=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> years. Now it =
won't</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>start up and=20
keep running. =3D<BR>>This =3D3D<BR>> =
>began=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> tonight as</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I tried adding =
Mec #2 to a=20
1 =3D<BR>>Mec =3D3D<BR>> >setup. =
The=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>would power on =
for a split=20
=3D<BR>>second =3D3D<BR>> >then=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>power supply. =
It might=20
still =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >work with =
all=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>if I =
baby=20
it.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Once =
it's off I=20
have to =3D<BR>>unplug, wait,<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>replug=20
and=3D3D20<BR>> > start=20
again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with =
=3D<BR>>one Mec=20
=3D3D<BR>> >then. I=3D3D20<BR>> > =
thought there=20
was </FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>a auto shut off mechanism =
=3D<BR>>built in=20
to<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >the=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>about that in=20
the =3D3D<BR>> =
>manual.</FONT></DIV><BR >> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =
Polesoft=20
Lockspam to fight =3D<BR>>spam,<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>and=3D3D20<BR>> > =
you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re'>h=
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R>>fer=3D3D<BR>> =20
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>> =20
><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML =
PUBLIC=20
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Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD> <BR>><META=20
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size=3D3D2>Hi=20
Mike,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I think Windows will boot fine, at =3D<BR>>least it =
used=20
=
to=3D20<BR>>with</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes =
=3D<BR>>as=20
soon as I=3D20<BR>>attach=20
a</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>scsi cable to any of my three new=20
=
=3D<BR>>working=3D20<BR>>mecs.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><=
DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It didn't a couple of days=20
=3D<BR>>ago.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>I'm digging=20
deeper into the way the =3D<BR>>cards are=3D20<BR>>seated=20
now.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I will check the Magma with one card =3D<BR>>and=20
one=3D20<BR>>interface at a=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>time. Maybe the scherzo drivers =3D<BR>>are=20
screwy=3D20<BR>>from removing=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>and reinserting the cards? =20
=3D<BR>></FONT></DIV><BR >><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This is amazing how one little thing =
=3D<BR>>can=20
ruin a=3D20<BR>>good=20
business.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Well maybe it's 10 little things but.=20
=
..<BR>=3D<BR>>.=3D20<BR>></FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV>=
;<FONT=20
face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV>=20
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
=
</DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR >>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
0px;=20
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
2px=20
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Mike Audet"=20
<Mike@...> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=3D=
20'>news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV&=
gt;<BR>Hi=3D20</A><BR>> =20
Tom,<BR><BR>I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't =
require=20
any=3D20<BR>> drivers.<BR><BR>I'd try booting =
Windows XP=20
with no EDS cards in, then<BR>=3D<BR>>one,=3D20<BR>> =
then two,=20
etc.,<BR>until you can find the problem. If it is the=20
=3D<BR>>bridge=3D20<BR>> chips in the Magma,<BR>I =
believe=20
Windows would fail even if no cards =3D<BR>>were =
in=3D20<BR>> =20
it. You may want to<BR>test it with another PCI card in =
it just=20
=3D<BR>>in case=3D20<BR>> I'm wrong about that. =20
It<BR>sounds to me like a bad card that is =
=3D<BR>><BR>> =20
throwing the PARIS driver for a shit<BR>when it tries to =
innitialize=20
=3D<BR>>any 442s=3D20<BR>> that are attached (that =
happens=20
on<BR>start up).<BR><BR>Good=3D20<BR>> =20
luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR& gt; =
<BR><BR>"Tom=20
Bruhl" <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t; =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Most Excellent Fix =
It=20
Guys,<BR>>New=3D20<BR>> problem. Just =
installed a new=20
Antec 550 watt =3D<BR>>supply.<BR>>Powers =
up=3D20<BR>> =20
nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS =
cards<BR>>then=20
=3D<BR>>shut off=3D20<BR>> just before XP boots and =
screws the whole=20
shootin' match.<BR>>I'll =
=3D<BR>>double=3D20<BR>> check=20
seating of the cards but what else would have =
made=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>even<BR>> ;the new supply to croak? =
Fans are=20
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slot Magma=20
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began=20
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thinking<BR>> power supply. It might still work =
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=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>then =
shut off just=20
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the=3D3D20<BR>>whole shootin'=3D20<BR>> =20
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=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>I'll =
double check=20
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what=3D3D20<BR>>else would have made=3D20<BR>> =20
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=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>the =
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=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>I'm =
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The=20
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=3D<BR>><BR>> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are =
there Magma=20
=3D3D<BR>>drivers? =3D<BR>>If=3D20<BR>> =20
so=3D3D20<BR>>I'd need older ones. The=3D20<BR>> =20
Magma</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>tech =
was almost=20
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left</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>for =
the Magma card.=20
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=3D<BR>>slot=3D3D20<BR>>#s=20
go=3D20<BR>> 1-13 rt to left as you face =
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=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>I =
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placement.</FONT></DIV><B R>><DIV><FONT =
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=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I've had 5 =
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as</FONT></DIV><BR> ;> =20
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all=3D3D20<BR>> 5 cards and 1=20
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=3D3D<BR>>then.=3D20<BR>> =
I=3D3D20<BR>> thought=20
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| Re: New problems [message #91392 is a reply to message #91387] |
Fri, 12 October 2007 16:28 |
rick
Messages: 1976
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maybe the ps is going.
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:03:47 -0400, "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Got everything out of magma, reseated it's card.
>Booted computer fine with nothing in magma.
>Tried one eds, computer still booted fine.
>Tried booting with Mec attached but off no probs.
>Tried with mec on booted fine but am back to no
>clock or modules showing in Mec with Paris started.
>I forgot to disattach the second Mecs clock from the first
>and it was off. It may be why but I doubt it.
>
>I'm off to a crazy weekend but at this point am thinking
>the Magma is toast. ? ? ?
>I'll be back to hear your replies in 6 hours or so.
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:470fc436@linux...
> The Magma power supply just stops after about 45 seconds
> so windows freaks and won't finish starting up.
> "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:470fbd61@linux...
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> Hmmm...does it fail when windows starts if the MECs are connected or when
> PARIS starts?
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hi Mike,
> >I think Windows will boot fine, at least it used to with
> >all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach a
> >scsi cable to any of my three new working mecs.
> >It didn't a couple of days ago.
> >
> >I'm digging deeper into the way the cards are seated now.
> >I will check the Magma with one card and one interface at a=20
> >time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from removing=20
> >and reinserting the cards? =20
> >
> >This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good business.
> >Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . .=20
> >Tom
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message news:470f58fa$1@linux...
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any drivers.
> >
> > I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then one, then two, =
> >etc.,
> > until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the =
> >Magma,
> > I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. You may =
> >want to
> > test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong about that.
> =
> > It
> > sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS driver for a =
> >shit
> > when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached (that happens
> =
> >on
> > start up).
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Mike
> > =20
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
> > >New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
> > >Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
> > >then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
> >match.
> > >I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have made
> =
> >=3D
> > >even
> > >the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
> > >
> > >I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?
> > >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The =
> >Magma
> > >tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the =
> >far =3D
> > >left
> > >for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as =
> >you =3D
> > >face the front.
> > >I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.
> > >
> > >Everything is broken it seems.
> > >Tom
> > >
> > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D
> > >news:470d9f41$1@linux...
> > > I can't believe this one but . . .=3D20
> > >
> > > I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> > > start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> > > I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> > > would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> > > power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
> > > if I baby it.
> > >
> > > Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
> > > Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=3D20
> > > a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =3D
> > >anything
> > > about that in the manual.
> > >
> > > ? ? ?
> > >
> > > Why Me???
> > >
> > >
> > > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
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> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =3D
> > >Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a =
> >new =3D
> > >Antec 550=3D20
> > >watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. =
> >It =3D
> > >will run=3D20
> > >with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>then shut off just before XP =
> >boots and
> > =3D
> > >screws the=3D20
> > >whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'll double check seating of the
> =
> >cards
> > =3D
> > >but what=3D20
> > >else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans =
> >are =3D
> > >cooling=3D20
> > >well too.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS
> =
> >then =3D
> > >? Maybe=3D20
> > >3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =3D
> > >drivers? If so=3D20
> > >I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at how
> =
> >old =3D
> > >mine is. =3D20
> > >It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =
> >=3D
> > >one's slot=3D20
> > >#s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the front.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think mine's the opposite =
> >judging by
> > =3D
> > >my master=3D20
> > >card placement.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Everything is broken it =3D
> > >seems.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20
> > >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >=3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > > href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
> >wrote =3D
> > >in message=3D20
> > > <A =
> >href=3D3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can't believe this one but .
> =
> >. . =3D
> > ></FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot
> =
> >Magma =3D
> > >for=3D20
> > > years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>start up and keep running. =
> >This =3D
> > >began=3D20
> > > tonight as</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 =
> >Mec =3D
> > >setup. The=3D20
> > > Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would power on for a split =
> >second =3D
> > >then=3D20
> > > stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>power supply. It might still =
> >=3D
> > >work with all=3D20
> > > 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to =
> >unplug, wait,
> > =3D
> > >replug and=3D20
> > > start again.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with =
> >one Mec =3D
> > >then. I=3D20
> > > thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a auto shut off mechanism =
> >built in to
> > =3D
> > >the=3D20
> > > Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>about that in the =3D
> > >manual.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
> >spam,
> > =3D
> > >and=3D20
> > > you?<BR><A=3D20
> > > =3D
> > =
> >>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
> >fer=3D
> > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Mike,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think Windows will boot fine, at =
> >least it used to=20
> >with</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes =
> >as soon as I=20
> >attach a</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scsi cable to any of my three new =
> >working=20
> >mecs.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It didn't a couple of days =
> >ago.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm digging deeper into the way the =
> >cards are=20
> >seated now.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will check the Magma with one card =
> >and one=20
> >interface at a </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>time. Maybe the scherzo drivers =
> >are screwy=20
> >from removing </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and reinserting the cards? =
> ></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is amazing how one little thing =
> >can ruin a=20
> >good business.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well maybe it's 10 little things but. .
> =
> >.=20
> ></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message <A=20
> > =
> >href=3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=20
> > Tom,<BR><BR>I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any=20
> > drivers.<BR><BR>I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then
> =
> >one,=20
> > then two, etc.,<BR>until you can find the problem. If it is the =
> >bridge=20
> > chips in the Magma,<BR>I believe Windows would fail even if no cards =
> >were in=20
> > it. You may want to<BR>test it with another PCI card in it just =
> >in case=20
> > I'm wrong about that. It<BR>sounds to me like a bad card that is =
> >
> > throwing the PARIS driver for a shit<BR>when it tries to innitialize =
> >any 442s=20
> > that are attached (that happens on<BR>start up).<BR><BR>Good=20
> > luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR> <BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Most Excellent Fix It Guys,<BR>>New=20
> > problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt =
> >supply.<BR>>Powers up=20
> > nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards<BR>>then =
> >shut off=20
> > just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' match.<BR>>I'll =
> >double=20
> > check seating of the cards but what else would have made=20
> > =3D<BR>>even<BR>>the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling =
> >well=20
> > too.<BR>><BR>>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? =
> >Maybe 3 . .=20
> > . ? The Magma?<BR>>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? =
> >If so=20
> > I'd need older ones. The Magma<BR>>tech was almost laughing =
> >at how=20
> > old mine is. It has a slot on the far =3D<BR>>left<BR>>for =
> >the Magma=20
> > card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =
> >=3D<BR>>face=20
> > the front.<BR>>I think mine's the opposite judging by my master =
> >card=20
> > placement.<BR>><BR>>Everything is broken it=20
> > seems.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
> >in message=20
> > =3D<BR>>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> I can't believe this =
> >one but .=20
> > . .=3D20<BR>><BR>> I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for =
> >
> > years. Now it won't<BR>> start up and keep =
> >running. This=20
> > began tonight as<BR>> I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
> >setup. =20
> > The Magma<BR>> would power on for a split second then =
> >stop. I'm=20
> > thinking<BR>> power supply. It might still work with =
> >all 5=20
> > cards and 1 Mec<BR>> if I baby it.<BR>><BR>> Once =
> >it's=20
> > off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.<BR>> =
> >Maybe it=20
> > will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =
> >was=3D20<BR>> a=20
> > auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see=20
> > =3D<BR>>anything<BR>> about that in the=20
> > manual.<BR>><BR>> ? ? ?<BR>><BR>> Why=20
> > Me???<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
> >fight spam,=20
> > and you?<BR>> <A=20
> > =
> >href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
> >.html</A> =20
> > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> > http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> > =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
> >content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> > 6.00.2800.1400"=20
> > =
> >name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
> >D><BR>><BODY=20
> > bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
> >size=3D3D2>Most=20
> > Excellent Fix It=20
> > =3D<BR>>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a new =
> >=3D<BR>>Antec=20
> > 550=3D20<BR>>watt =
> >supply.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It =
> >=3D<BR>>will=20
> > run=3D20<BR>>with 5 EDS=20
> > cards</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>then shut off just before XP boots =
> >and<BR>=3D<BR>>screws=20
> > the=3D20<BR>>whole shootin'=20
> > match.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>I'll double check seating of the cards<BR>=3D<BR>>but =
> >
> > what=3D20<BR>>else would have made=20
> > even</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans are =
> >=3D<BR>>cooling=3D20<BR>>well=20
> > too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then =3D<BR>>? =
> >Maybe=3D20<BR>>3=20
> > . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =3D<BR>>drivers? =
> >If=20
> > so=3D20<BR>>I'd need older ones. The=20
> > Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =3D<BR>>mine is.=20
> > =3D20<BR>>It has a slot on the far=20
> > left</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =3D<BR>>one's =
> >slot=3D20<BR>>#s go=20
> > 1-13 rt to left as you face the=20
> > front.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>I think mine's the opposite judging by<BR>=3D<BR>>my=20
> > master=3D20<BR>>card=20
> > placement.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>Everything is broken it=20
> > =3D<BR>>seems.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
> ></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> > dir=3D3Dltr=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: =
> >5px;=20
> > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =
> >MARGIN-RIGHT:=20
> > 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" =
> ><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> > href=3D3D"<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> > wrote =3D<BR>>in message=3D20<BR>> <A href=3D3D"<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D'news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:47=
> >0d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=
> >> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can't believe this =
> >one but . .=20
> > . =3D<BR>></FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> ><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a =
> >13 slot=20
> > Magma =3D<BR>>for=3D20<BR>> years. Now it=20
> > won't</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>start up and keep running. This =
> >=3D<BR>>began=3D20<BR>> =20
> > tonight as</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
> >=3D<BR>>setup.=20
> > The=3D20<BR>> Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would power on for a =
> >split second=20
> > =3D<BR>>then=3D20<BR>> stop. I'm=20
> > thinking</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>power supply. It might still =
> >=3D<BR>>work with=20
> > all=3D20<BR>> 5 cards and 1 =
> >Mec</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>if I baby=20
> > it.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
> ><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug,=20
> > wait,<BR>=3D<BR>>replug and=3D20<BR>> start=20
> > again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec =3D<BR>>then.=20
> > I=3D20<BR>> thought there was =
> ></FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a auto shut off =
> >mechanism built=20
> > in to<BR>=3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> Magma. I didn't see=20
> > anything</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>about that in the=20
> > =3D<BR>>manual.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> ><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>? ?=20
> > ?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
> ><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Why =
> >Me???</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =
> >Polesoft Lockspam=20
> > to fight spam,<BR>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>> =20
> > you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
> >'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
> >>=3D<BR>>.html</A>=20
> > =
> ></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR=
> >>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
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| Re: New problems [message #91402 is a reply to message #91392] |
Fri, 12 October 2007 23:06 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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Rick,
I just replaced the power supply in the magma yesterday. The mecs are =
brand new/used to me.
I have two others to try but I'm afraid I'd be toasting them one by one =
somehow.
This is so outlandish I don't know what to think anymore.
Tom
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:qn00h3t7hi790656b1qcjk40s7bvnqvt9r@4ax.com...
maybe the ps is going.
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:03:47 -0400, "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Got everything out of magma, reseated it's card.
>Booted computer fine with nothing in magma.
>Tried one eds, computer still booted fine.
>Tried booting with Mec attached but off no probs.
>Tried with mec on booted fine but am back to no
>clock or modules showing in Mec with Paris started.
>I forgot to disattach the second Mecs clock from the first
>and it was off. It may be why but I doubt it.
>
>I'm off to a crazy weekend but at this point am thinking
>the Magma is toast. ? ? ?
>I'll be back to hear your replies in 6 hours or so.
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470fc436@linux...
> The Magma power supply just stops after about 45 seconds
> so windows freaks and won't finish starting up.
> "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:470fbd61@linux...
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> Hmmm...does it fail when windows starts if the MECs are connected =
or when
> PARIS starts?
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hi Mike,
> >I think Windows will boot fine, at least it used to with
> >all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach a
> >scsi cable to any of my three new working mecs.
> >It didn't a couple of days ago.
> >
> >I'm digging deeper into the way the cards are seated now.
> >I will check the Magma with one card and one interface at a=3D20
> >time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from removing=3D20
> >and reinserting the cards? =3D20
> >
> >This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good business.
> >Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . .=3D20
> >Tom
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message =
news:470f58fa$1@linux...
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any drivers.
> >
> > I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then one, =
then two, =3D
> >etc.,
> > until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in =
the =3D
> >Magma,
> > I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. You =
may =3D
> >want to
> > test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong =
about that.
> =3D
> > It
> > sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS driver =
for a =3D
> >shit
> > when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached (that =
happens
> =3D
> >on
> > start up).
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Mike
> > =3D20
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
> > >New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
> > >Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
> > >then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole =
shootin' =3D
> >match.
> > >I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would =
have made
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >even
> > >the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
> > >
> > >I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The =
Magma?
> > >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. =
The =3D
> >Magma
> > >tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot =
on the =3D
> >far =3D3D
> > >left
> > >for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to =
left as =3D
> >you =3D3D
> > >face the front.
> > >I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card =
placement.
> > >
> > >Everything is broken it seems.
> > >Tom
> > >
> > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D3D
> > >news:470d9f41$1@linux...
> > > I can't believe this one but . . .=3D3D20
> > >
> > > I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it =
won't
> > > start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> > > I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> > > would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> > > power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 =
Mec
> > > if I baby it.
> > >
> > > Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start =
again.
> > > Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =
was=3D3D20
> > > a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't =
see =3D3D
> > >anything
> > > about that in the manual.
> > >
> > > ? ? ?
> > >
> > > Why Me???
> > >
> > >
> > > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
=3D3D
> > >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
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> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Most Excellent Fix =
It =3D3D
> > >Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>New problem. Just =
installed a =3D
> >new =3D3D
> > >Antec 550=3D3D20
> > >watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Powers up nicely in =
the Magma. =3D
> >It =3D3D
> > >will run=3D3D20
> > >with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>then shut off just =
before XP =3D
> >boots and
> > =3D3D
> > >screws the=3D3D20
> > >whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'll double check =
seating of the
> =3D
> >cards
> > =3D3D
> > >but what=3D3D20
> > >else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>the new supply to =
croak? Fans =3D
> >are =3D3D
> > >cooling=3D3D20
> > >well too.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm thinking I have =
a broken EDS
> =3D
> >then =3D3D
> > >? Maybe=3D3D20
> > >3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are there =
Magma =3D3D
> > >drivers? If so=3D3D20
> > >I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>tech was almost =
laughing at how
> =3D
> >old =3D3D
> > >mine is. =3D3D20
> > >It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>for the Magma card. =
The newer =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >one's slot=3D3D20
> > >#s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the front.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I think mine's the =
opposite =3D
> >judging by
> > =3D3D
> > >my master=3D3D20
> > >card placement.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Everything is broken =
it =3D3D
> > >seems.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20
> > >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > > =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =3D
> >wrote =3D3D
> > >in message=3D3D20
> > > <A =3D
> =
>href=3D3D3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I can't believe =
this one but .
> =3D
> >. . =3D3D
> > ></FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I've had 5 cards =
in a 13 slot
> =3D
> >Magma =3D3D
> > >for=3D3D20
> > > years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>start up and keep =
running. =3D
> >This =3D3D
> > >began=3D3D20
> > > tonight as</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I tried adding Mec =
#2 to a 1 =3D
> >Mec =3D3D
> > >setup. The=3D3D20
> > > Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>would power on for =
a split =3D
> >second =3D3D
> > >then=3D3D20
> > > stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>power supply. It =
might still =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >work with all=3D3D20
> > > 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>if I baby =
it.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Once it's off I =
have to =3D
> >unplug, wait,
> > =3D3D
> > >replug and=3D3D20
> > > start again.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Maybe it will =
start up with =3D
> >one Mec =3D3D
> > >then. I=3D3D20
> > > thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>a auto shut off =
mechanism =3D
> >built in to
> > =3D3D
> > >the=3D3D20
> > > Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>about that in the =
=3D3D
> > >manual.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Why =
Me???</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam =
to fight =3D
> >spam,
> > =3D3D
> > >and=3D3D20
> > > you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
/re=3D
> >fer=3D3D
> > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi Mike,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think Windows will boot =
fine, at =3D
> >least it used to=3D20
> >with</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>all 5 cards in it. Now it =
chokes =3D
> >as soon as I=3D20
> >attach a</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>scsi cable to any of my =
three new =3D
> >working=3D20
> >mecs.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It didn't a couple of days =
=3D
> >ago.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm digging deeper into the =
way the =3D
> >cards are=3D20
> >seated now.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I will check the Magma with =
one card =3D
> >and one=3D20
> >interface at a </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>time. Maybe the scherzo =
drivers =3D
> >are screwy=3D20
> >from removing </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and reinserting the cards? =
=3D
> ></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This is amazing how one =
little thing =3D
> >can ruin a=3D20
> >good business.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Well maybe it's 10 little =
things but. .
> =3D
> >.=3D20
> ></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; =3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message <A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>H=
i=3D20
> > Tom,<BR><BR>I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require =
any=3D20
> > drivers.<BR><BR>I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards =
in, then
> =3D
> >one,=3D20
> > then two, etc.,<BR>until you can find the problem. If it is =
the =3D
> >bridge=3D20
> > chips in the Magma,<BR>I believe Windows would fail even if no =
cards =3D
> >were in=3D20
> > it. You may want to<BR>test it with another PCI card in it =
just =3D
> >in case=3D20
> > I'm wrong about that. It<BR>sounds to me like a bad card that =
is =3D
> >
> > throwing the PARIS driver for a shit<BR>when it tries to =
innitialize =3D
> >any 442s=3D20
> > that are attached (that happens on<BR>start =
up).<BR><BR>Good=3D20
> > luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR> <BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Most Excellent Fix It Guys,<BR>>New=3D20
> > problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt =3D
> >supply.<BR>>Powers up=3D20
> > nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards<BR>>then =
=3D
> >shut off=3D20
> > just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
match.<BR>>I'll =3D
> >double=3D20
> > check seating of the cards but what else would have made=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>even<BR>>the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling =
=3D
> >well=3D20
> > too.<BR>><BR>>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? =3D
> >Maybe 3 . .=3D20
> > . ? The Magma?<BR>>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? =3D
> >If so=3D20
> > I'd need older ones. The Magma<BR>>tech was almost laughing =
=3D
> >at how=3D20
> > old mine is. It has a slot on the far =3D3D<BR>>left<BR>>for =
=3D
> >the Magma=3D20
> > card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>face=3D20
> > the front.<BR>>I think mine's the opposite judging by my =
master =3D
> >card=3D20
> > placement.<BR>><BR>>Everything is broken it=3D20
> > seems.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote =3D
> >in message=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> I can't believe this =
=3D
> >one but .=3D20
> > . .=3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for =
=3D
> >
> > years. Now it won't<BR>> start up and keep =3D
> >running. This=3D20
> > began tonight as<BR>> I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =3D
> >setup. =3D20
> > The Magma<BR>> would power on for a split second then =3D
> >stop. I'm=3D20
> > thinking<BR>> power supply. It might still work with =3D
> >all 5=3D20
> > cards and 1 Mec<BR>> if I baby it.<BR>><BR>> Once =3D
> >it's=3D20
> > off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.<BR>> =3D
> >Maybe it=3D20
> > will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =3D
> >was=3D3D20<BR>> a=3D20
> > auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't =
see=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>anything<BR>> about that in the=3D20
> > manual.<BR>><BR>> ? ? ?<BR>><BR>> Why=3D20
> > Me???<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =3D
> >fight spam,=3D20
> > and you?<BR>> <A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
> >.html</A> =3D20
> > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> > =3D
> >name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
> >D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> > bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D2>Most=3D20
> > Excellent Fix It=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a =
new =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>Antec=3D20
> > 550=3D3D20<BR>>watt =3D
> >supply.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. =
It =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>will=3D20
> > run=3D3D20<BR>>with 5 EDS=3D20
> > cards</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>then shut off just before XP boots =3D
> >and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>screws=3D20
> > the=3D3D20<BR>>whole shootin'=3D20
> > match.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>I'll double check seating of the =
cards<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but =3D
> >
> > what=3D3D20<BR>>else would have made=3D20
> > even</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans are =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>cooling=3D3D20<BR>>well=3D20
> > too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then =3D3D<BR>>? =
=3D
> >Maybe=3D3D20<BR>>3=3D20
> > . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =
=3D3D<BR>>drivers? =3D
> >If=3D20
> > so=3D3D20<BR>>I'd need older ones. The=3D20
> > Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =
=3D3D<BR>>mine is.=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>>It has a slot on the far=3D20
> > left</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =3D3D<BR>>one's =3D
> >slot=3D3D20<BR>>#s go=3D20
> > 1-13 rt to left as you face the=3D20
> > front.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>I think mine's the opposite judging =
by<BR>=3D3D<BR>>my=3D20
> > master=3D3D20<BR>>card=3D20
> > placement.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Everything is broken it=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>seems.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
> ></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
PADDING-LEFT: =3D
> >5px;=3D20
> > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =
=3D
> >MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D20
> > 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" =3D
> ><<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> <A href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news=
:47=3D
> >0d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=3D
> >> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I can't believe this =
=3D
> >one but . .=3D20
> > . =3D3D<BR>></FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a =
=3D
> >13 slot=3D20
> > Magma =3D3D<BR>>for=3D3D20<BR>> years. Now it=3D20
> > won't</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>start up and keep running. This =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>began=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > tonight as</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
=3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>setup.=3D20
> > The=3D3D20<BR>> Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>would power on for a =
=3D
> >split second=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>then=3D3D20<BR>> stop. I'm=3D20
> > thinking</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>power supply. It might still =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>work with=3D20
> > all=3D3D20<BR>> 5 cards and 1 =3D
> >Mec</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>if I baby=3D20
> > it.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Once it's off I have to =
unplug,=3D20
> > wait,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>replug and=3D3D20<BR>> start=3D20
> > again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec =
=3D3D<BR>>then.=3D20
> > I=3D3D20<BR>> thought there was =3D
> ></FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>a auto shut off =3D
> >mechanism built=3D20
> > in to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D20<BR>> Magma. I didn't see=3D20
> > anything</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>about that in the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>manual.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>? ?=3D20
> > ?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Why =3D
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rick,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I just replaced the power =
supply in the magma=20
yesterday. The mecs are brand new/used to me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have two others to try but I'm afraid =
I'd=20
be toasting them one by one somehow.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is so outlandish I don't know what =
to think=20
anymore.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"rick" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:qn00h3t7hi790656b1qcjk40s7bvnqvt9r@4ax.com">news:qn00h3t7hi7=
90656b1qcjk40s7bvnqvt9r@4ax.com</A>...</DIV>maybe=20
the ps is going.<BR><BR>On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:03:47 -0400, "Tom =
Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>><BR>wrote:=
<BR><BR>>Got=20
everything out of magma, reseated it's card.<BR>>Booted computer =
fine with=20
nothing in magma.<BR>>Tried one eds, computer still booted=20
fine.<BR>>Tried booting with Mec attached but off no =
probs.<BR>>Tried=20
with mec on booted fine but am back to no<BR>>clock or modules =
showing in=20
Mec with Paris started.<BR>>I forgot to disattach the second Mecs =
clock=20
from the first<BR>>and it was off. It may be why but I doubt=20
it.<BR>><BR>>I'm off to a crazy weekend but at this point am=20
thinking<BR>>the Magma is toast. ? ? ?<BR>>I'll be back to hear =
your=20
replies in 6 hours or so.<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A =
href=3D"news:470fc436@linux">news:470fc436@linux</A>...<BR>> =
The=20
Magma power supply just stops after about 45 seconds<BR>> so =
windows=20
freaks and won't finish starting up.<BR>> "Mike =
Audet"=20
<mike@....> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:470fbd61@linux">news:470fbd61@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>>&n=
bsp; =20
Hi Tom,<BR>><BR>> Hmmm...does it fail when =
windows=20
starts if the MECs are connected or when<BR>> =
PARIS=20
starts?<BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> =20
><BR>> >Hi Mike,<BR>> =
>I=20
think Windows will boot fine, at least it used to=20
with<BR>> >all 5 cards in it. Now it =
chokes as=20
soon as I attach a<BR>> >scsi cable to any of =
my three=20
new working mecs.<BR>> >It didn't a couple of =
days=20
ago.<BR>> ><BR>> >I'm =
digging=20
deeper into the way the cards are seated =
now.<BR>> >I=20
will check the Magma with one card and one interface at=20
a=3D20<BR>> >time. Maybe the scherzo =
drivers are=20
screwy from removing=3D20<BR>> >and =
reinserting the=20
cards? =3D20<BR>> ><BR>> =
>This=20
is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good=20
business.<BR>> >Well maybe it's 10 little =
things but.=20
. .=3D20<BR>> >Tom<BR>> =20
><BR>> ><BR>> =20
><BR>> > "Mike Audet" =
<Mike@...> wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=20
><BR>> > Hi =
Tom,<BR>> =20
><BR>> > I have the same old Magma, =
and it=20
doesn't require any drivers.<BR>> =20
><BR>> > I'd try booting Windows XP =
with no=20
EDS cards in, then one, then two, =3D<BR>> =20
>etc.,<BR>> > until you can find the=20
problem. If it is the bridge chips in the =
=3D<BR>> =20
>Magma,<BR>> > I believe Windows =
would fail=20
even if no cards were in it. You may =
=3D<BR>> =20
>want to<BR>> > test it with another =
PCI card=20
in it just in case I'm wrong about that.<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> > It<BR>> =
> =20
sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS driver for a=20
=3D<BR>> >shit<BR>> =
> when=20
it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached (that=20
happens<BR>> =3D<BR>> =20
>on<BR>> > start=20
up).<BR>> ><BR>> =
> Good=20
luck!<BR>> ><BR>> =
> =20
Mike<BR>> > =20
=3D20<BR>> ><BR>> =
> "Tom=20
Bruhl" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> > =
><BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > >Most =
Excellent Fix It=20
Guys,<BR>> > >New problem. Just =
installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.<BR>> =
> =20
>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS=20
cards<BR>> > >then shut off just =
before XP=20
boots and screws the whole shootin' =3D<BR>> =20
>match.<BR>> > >I'll double check =
seating=20
of the cards but what else would have made<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >=3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>even<BR>> > >the new supply to=20
croak? Fans are cooling well too.<BR>> =
> =20
><BR>> > >I'm thinking I have a =
broken EDS=20
then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The =
Magma?<BR>> =20
> >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd =
need older=20
ones. The =3D<BR>> =20
>Magma<BR>> > >tech was almost =
laughing at=20
how old mine is. It has a slot on the =
=3D<BR>> =20
>far =3D3D<BR>> > =20
>left<BR>> > >for the Magma =
card. =20
The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as =
=3D<BR>> =20
>you =3D3D<BR>> > >face the=20
front.<BR>> > >I think mine's the =
opposite=20
judging by my master card placement.<BR>> =
> =20
><BR>> > >Everything is broken it=20
seems.<BR>> > =
>Tom<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > > "Tom =
Bruhl"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message =3D3D<BR>> > =20
>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> > =
> I=20
can't believe this one but . . .=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
><BR>> > > I've had 5 cards =
in a 13=20
slot Magma for years. Now it won't<BR>> =
> =20
> start up and keep running. This began tonight=20
as<BR>> > > I tried adding Mec =
#2 to a=20
1 Mec setup. The Magma<BR>> > =
> =20
would power on for a split second then stop. I'm=20
thinking<BR>> > > power =
supply. =20
It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 =
Mec<BR>> =20
> > if I baby it.<BR>> =
> =20
><BR>> > > Once it's off I =
have to=20
unplug, wait, replug and start again.<BR>> =
> =20
> Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought =
there=20
was=3D3D20<BR>> > > a auto shut =
off=20
mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>anything<BR>> > > about =
that in the=20
manual.<BR>> > =
><BR>> =20
> > ? ? ?<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > > Why=20
Me???<BR>> > =
><BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > > I =
choose=20
Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?<BR>> =
> =20
> <A=20
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..html</A> =20
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Most =
Excellent Fix It=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>New problem. =
Just=20
installed a =3D<BR>> >new =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >Antec 550=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>watt=20
supply.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Powers up =
nicely in the=20
Magma. =3D<BR>> >It =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >will run=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>with 5=20
EDS cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>then shut off =
just before=20
XP =3D<BR>> >boots =
and<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> > >screws=20
the=3D3D20<BR>> > >whole shootin'=20
match.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'll double =
check seating=20
of the<BR>> =3D<BR>> =20
>cards<BR>> > =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >but what=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>else=20
would have made =
even</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>the new supply=20
to croak? Fans =3D<BR>> >are=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>cooling=3D3D20<BR>> > >well=20
too.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> > =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken=20
EDS<BR>> =3D<BR>> >then=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >?=20
Maybe=3D3D20<BR>> > >3 . . . ? The=20
Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are =
there Magma=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >drivers? If=20
so=3D3D20<BR>> > >I'd need older =
ones. The=20
Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>tech was =
almost laughing=20
at how<BR>> =3D<BR>> >old =
=3D3D<BR>> > >mine is.=20
=3D3D20<BR>> > >It has a slot on the =
far=20
left</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>for the Magma =
card. The=20
newer =3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>one's slot=3D3D20<BR>> > >#s go =
1-13 rt to=20
left as you face the =
front.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I =
think mine's=20
the opposite =3D<BR>> >judging=20
by<BR>> > =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >my master=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>card=20
placement.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> > =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Everything is broken it=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>seems.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV& ;gt; <BR>> =
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
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0px"><BR>> > > =
<DIV>"Tom=20
Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>> >wrote =
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>in message=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
<A=20
=3D<BR>> >href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:47=
0d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=
> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>I can't=20
believe this one but .<BR>> =
=3D<BR>> =20
>. . =3D3D<BR>> > =20
></FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I've had 5 cards =
in a 13=20
slot<BR>> =3D<BR>> >Magma =
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>for=3D3D20<BR>> > > years. =
Now it=20
won't</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>start up and keep =
running.=20
=3D<BR>> >This =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>began=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
tonight=20
as</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I tried adding =
Mec #2 to a 1=20
=3D<BR>> >Mec =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>setup. The=3D3D20<BR>> > > =20
Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>would power on =
for a split=20
=3D<BR>> >second =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >then=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> stop.=20
I'm thinking</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>power =
supply. It=20
might still =3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >work with all=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> 5 cards and 1=20
Mec</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>if I baby=20
it.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Once it's off I =
have to=20
=3D<BR>> >unplug, =
wait,<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> > >replug=20
and=3D3D20<BR>> > > start=20
again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Maybe =
it will=20
start up with =3D<BR>> >one Mec=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >then.=20
I=3D3D20<BR>> > > thought there =
was=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>a auto shut off =
mechanism=20
=3D<BR>> >built in =
to<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> > =20
>the=3D3D20<BR>> > > Magma. =
I didn't=20
see anything</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>about =
that in the=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>manual.</FONT></DIV><BR >> =
> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>? ?=20
?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Why=20
Me???</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
<DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =
Polesoft=20
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>spam,<BR>> > =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >and=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
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> =20
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><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi=20
Mike,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think Windows =
will boot=20
fine, at =3D<BR>> >least it used=20
to=3D20<BR>> =20
>with</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>all 5 cards in =
it. Now=20
it chokes =3D<BR>> >as soon as=20
I=3D20<BR>> >attach=20
a</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>scsi cable to any of my three new=20
=3D<BR>> =
>working=3D20<BR>> =20
>mecs.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It didn't a =
couple of days=20
=3D<BR>> =20
>ago.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I'm digging deeper into the way the =
=3D<BR>> =20
>cards are=3D20<BR>> >seated=20
now.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I will check the =
Magma with=20
one card =3D<BR>> >and =
one=3D20<BR>> =20
>interface at a </FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>time. Maybe =
the scherzo=20
drivers =3D<BR>> >are=20
screwy=3D20<BR>> >from removing=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and reinserting the cards? =20
=3D<BR>> =20
></FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>This is amazing how one little thing =
=3D<BR>> =20
>can ruin a=3D20<BR>> >good=20
business.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Well maybe it's =
10 little=20
things but. .<BR>> =3D<BR>> =20
>.=3D20<BR>> =20
></FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> ><DIV>=20
</DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>> =
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<Mike@...> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =
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| Re: New problems [message #91407 is a reply to message #91402] |
Sat, 13 October 2007 02:16 |
rick
Messages: 1976
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sorry i hadn't read all the other posts but even new ones can be bad..
i've never used a magma so i'm not familiar with their hookup
protocol.
can you put a meter on the power feeds to see if their output is
correct?
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 02:06:58 -0400, "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Rick,
>I just replaced the power supply in the magma yesterday. The mecs are brand new/used to me.
>I have two others to try but I'm afraid I'd be toasting them one by one somehow.
>This is so outlandish I don't know what to think anymore.
>Tom
>
> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:qn00h3t7hi790656b1qcjk40s7bvnqvt9r@4ax.com...
> maybe the ps is going.
>
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:03:47 -0400, "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Got everything out of magma, reseated it's card.
> >Booted computer fine with nothing in magma.
> >Tried one eds, computer still booted fine.
> >Tried booting with Mec attached but off no probs.
> >Tried with mec on booted fine but am back to no
> >clock or modules showing in Mec with Paris started.
> >I forgot to disattach the second Mecs clock from the first
> >and it was off. It may be why but I doubt it.
> >
> >I'm off to a crazy weekend but at this point am thinking
> >the Magma is toast. ? ? ?
> >I'll be back to hear your replies in 6 hours or so.
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:470fc436@linux...
> > The Magma power supply just stops after about 45 seconds
> > so windows freaks and won't finish starting up.
> > "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:470fbd61@linux...
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > Hmmm...does it fail when windows starts if the MECs are connected or when
> > PARIS starts?
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Mike,
> > >I think Windows will boot fine, at least it used to with
> > >all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach a
> > >scsi cable to any of my three new working mecs.
> > >It didn't a couple of days ago.
> > >
> > >I'm digging deeper into the way the cards are seated now.
> > >I will check the Magma with one card and one interface at a=20
> > >time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from removing=20
> > >and reinserting the cards? =20
> > >
> > >This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good business.
> > >Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . .=20
> > >Tom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message news:470f58fa$1@linux...
> > >
> > > Hi Tom,
> > >
> > > I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any drivers.
> > >
> > > I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then one, then two, =
> > >etc.,
> > > until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the =
> > >Magma,
> > > I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. You may =
> > >want to
> > > test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong about that.
> > =
> > > It
> > > sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS driver for a =
> > >shit
> > > when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached (that happens
> > =
> > >on
> > > start up).
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > =20
> > >
> > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
> > > >New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
> > > >Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
> > > >then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
> > >match.
> > > >I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have made
> > =
> > >=3D
> > > >even
> > > >the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
> > > >
> > > >I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?
> > > >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The =
> > >Magma
> > > >tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the =
> > >far =3D
> > > >left
> > > >for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as =
> > >you =3D
> > > >face the front.
> > > >I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.
> > > >
> > > >Everything is broken it seems.
> > > >Tom
> > > >
> > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D
> > > >news:470d9f41$1@linux...
> > > > I can't believe this one but . . .=3D20
> > > >
> > > > I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> > > > start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> > > > I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> > > > would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> > > > power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
> > > > if I baby it.
> > > >
> > > > Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
> > > > Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=3D20
> > > > a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =3D
> > > >anything
> > > > about that in the manual.
> > > >
> > > > ? ? ?
> > > >
> > > > Why Me???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > > > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> > > >
> > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > > ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> > > >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > > ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> > > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > > ></HEAD>
> > > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =3D
> > > >Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a =
> > >new =3D
> > > >Antec 550=3D20
> > > >watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. =
> > >It =3D
> > > >will run=3D20
> > > >with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>then shut off just before XP =
> > >boots and
> > > =3D
> > > >screws the=3D20
> > > >whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'll double check seating of the
> > =
> > >cards
> > > =3D
> > > >but what=3D20
> > > >else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans =
> > >are =3D
> > > >cooling=3D20
> > > >well too.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS
> > =
> > >then =3D
> > > >? Maybe=3D20
> > > >3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =3D
> > > >drivers? If so=3D20
> > > >I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at how
> > =
> > >old =3D
> > > >mine is. =3D20
> > > >It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =
> > >=3D
> > > >one's slot=3D20
> > > >#s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the front.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think mine's the opposite =
> > >judging by
> > > =3D
> > > >my master=3D20
> > > >card placement.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Everything is broken it =3D
> > > >seems.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20
> > > >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> > >=3D
> > > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > > > href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
> > >wrote =3D
> > > >in message=3D20
> > > > <A =
> > >href=3D3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can't believe this one but .
> > =
> > >. . =3D
> > > ></FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot
> > =
> > >Magma =3D
> > > >for=3D20
> > > > years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>start up and keep running. =
> > >This =3D
> > > >began=3D20
> > > > tonight as</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 =
> > >Mec =3D
> > > >setup. The=3D20
> > > > Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would power on for a split =
> > >second =3D
> > > >then=3D20
> > > > stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>power supply. It might still =
> > >=3D
> > > >work with all=3D20
> > > > 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to =
> > >unplug, wait,
> > > =3D
> > > >replug and=3D20
> > > > start again.</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with =
> > >one Mec =3D
> > > >then. I=3D20
> > > > thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a auto shut off mechanism =
> > >built in to
> > > =3D
> > > >the=3D20
> > > > Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>about that in the =3D
> > > >manual.</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
> > >spam,
> > > =3D
> > > >and=3D20
> > > > you?<BR><A=3D20
> > > > =3D
> > > =
> > >>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
> > >fer=3D
> > > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> > >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> > ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Mike,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think Windows will boot fine, at =
> > >least it used to=20
> > >with</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes =
> > >as soon as I=20
> > >attach a</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scsi cable to any of my three new =
> > >working=20
> > >mecs.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It didn't a couple of days =
> > >ago.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm digging deeper into the way the =
> > >cards are=20
> > >seated now.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will check the Magma with one card =
> > >and one=20
> > >interface at a </FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>time. Maybe the scherzo drivers =
> > >are screwy=20
> > >from removing </FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and reinserting the cards? =
> > ></FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is amazing how one little thing =
> > >can ruin a=20
> > >good business.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well maybe it's 10 little things but. .
> > =
> > >.=20
> > ></FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> > >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message <A=20
> > > =
> > >href=3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=20
> > > Tom,<BR><BR>I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any=20
> > > drivers.<BR><BR>I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then
> > =
> > >one,=20
> > > then two, etc.,<BR>until you can find the problem. If it is the =
> > >bridge=20
> > > chips in the Magma,<BR>I believe Windows would fail even if no cards =
> > >were in=20
> > > it. You may want to<BR>test it with another PCI card in it just =
> > >in case=20
> > > I'm wrong about that. It<BR>sounds to me like a bad card that is =
> > >
> > > throwing the PARIS driver for a shit<BR>when it tries to innitialize =
> > >any 442s=20
> > > that are attached (that happens on<BR>start up).<BR><BR>Good=20
> > > luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR> <BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > > href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> > > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Most Excellent Fix It Guys,<BR>>New=20
> > > problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt =
> > >supply.<BR>>Powers up=20
> > > nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards<BR>>then =
> > >shut off=20
> > > just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' match.<BR>>I'll =
> > >double=20
> > > check seating of the cards but what else would have made=20
> > > =3D<BR>>even<BR>>the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling =
> > >well=20
> > > too.<BR>><BR>>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? =
> > >Maybe 3 . .=20
> > > . ? The Magma?<BR>>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? =
> > >If so=20
> > > I'd need older ones. The Magma<BR>>tech was almost laughing =
> > >at how=20
> > > old mine is. It has a slot on the far =3D<BR>>left<BR>>for =
> > >the Magma=20
> > > card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =
> > >=3D<BR>>face=20
> > > the front.<BR>>I think mine's the opposite judging by my master =
> > >card=20
> > > placement.<BR>><BR>>Everything is broken it=20
> > > seems.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > > href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
> > >in message=20
> > > =3D<BR>>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> I can't believe this =
> > >one but .=20
> > > . .=3D20<BR>><BR>> I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for =
> > >
> > > years. Now it won't<BR>> start up and keep =
> > >running. This=20
> > > began tonight as<BR>> I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
> > >setup. =20
> > > The Magma<BR>> would power on for a split second then =
> > >stop. I'm=20
> > > thinking<BR>> power supply. It might still work with =
> > >all 5=20
> > > cards and 1 Mec<BR>> if I baby it.<BR>><BR>> Once =
> > >it's=20
> > > off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.<BR>> =
> > >Maybe it=20
> > > will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =
> > >was=3D20<BR>> a=20
> > > auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see=20
> > > =3D<BR>>anything<BR>> about that in the=20
> > > manual.<BR>><BR>> ? ? ?<BR>><BR>> Why=20
> > > Me???<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
> > >fight spam,=20
> > > and you?<BR>> <A=20
> > > =
> > >href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
> > >.html</A> =20
> > > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> > > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> > > http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> > > =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
> > >content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> > > 6.00.2800.1400"=20
> > > =
> > >name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
> > >D><BR>><BODY=20
> > > bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
> > >size=3D3D2>Most=20
> > > Excellent Fix It=20
> > > =3D<BR>>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a new =
> > >=3D<BR>>Antec=20
> > > 550=3D20<BR>>watt =
> > >supply.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It =
> > >=3D<BR>>will=20
> > > run=3D20<BR>>with 5 EDS=20
> > > cards</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>then shut off just before XP boots =
> > >and<BR>=3D<BR>>screws=20
> > > the=3D20<BR>>whole shootin'=20
> > > match.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>I'll double check seating of the cards<BR>=3D<BR>>but =
> > >
> > > what=3D20<BR>>else would have made=20
> > > even</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans are =
> > >=3D<BR>>cooling=3D20<BR>>well=20
> > > too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then =3D<BR>>? =
> > >Maybe=3D20<BR>>3=20
> > > . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >
> > > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =3D<BR>>drivers? =
> > >If=20
> > > so=3D20<BR>>I'd need older ones. The=20
> > > Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =3D<BR>>mine is.=20
> > > =3D20<BR>>It has a slot on the far=20
> > > left</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =3D<BR>>one's =
> > >slot=3D20<BR>>#s go=20
> > > 1-13 rt to left as you face the=20
> > > front.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>I think mine's the opposite judging by<BR>=3D<BR>>my=20
> > > master=3D20<BR>>card=20
> > > placement.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>Everything is broken it=20
> > > =3D<BR>>seems.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > > face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
> > ></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> > > dir=3D3Dltr=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: =
> > >5px;=20
> > > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =
> > >MARGIN-RIGHT:=20
> > > 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" =
> > ><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > href=3D3D"<A=20
> > > =
> > >href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
> > >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> > > wrote =3D<BR>>in message=3D20<BR>> <A href=3D3D"<A=20
> > > =
> > >href=3D'news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:47=
> > >0d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=
> > >> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can't believe this =
> > >one but . .=20
> > > . =3D<BR>></FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> > ><DIV><FONT=20
> > > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a =
> > >13 slot=20
> > > Magma =3D<BR>>for=3D20<BR>> years. Now it=20
> > > won't</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>start up and keep running. This =
> > >=3D<BR>>began=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > tonight as</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> > > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
> > >=3D<BR>>setup.=20
> > > The=3D20<BR>> Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would power on for a =
> > >split second=20
> > > =3D<BR>>then=3D20<BR>> stop. I'm=20
> > > thinking</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> > > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>power supply. It might still =
> > >=3D<BR>>work with=20
> > > all=3D20<BR>> 5 cards and 1 =
> > >Mec</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>if I baby=20
> > > it.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
> > ><DIV><FONT=20
> > > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug,=20
> > > wait,<BR>=3D<BR>>replug and=3D20<BR>> start=20
> > > again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec =3D<BR>>then.=20
> > > I=3D20<BR>> thought there was =
> > ></FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a auto shut off =
> > >mechanism built=20
> > > in to<BR>=3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> Magma. I didn't see=20
> > > anything</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> > > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>about that in the=20
> > > =3D<BR>>manual.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> > ><DIV><FONT=20
> > > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>? ?=20
> > > ?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
> > ><DIV><FONT=20
> > > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Why =
> > >Me???</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =
> > >Polesoft Lockspam=20
> > > to fight spam,<BR>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> > > =
> > >href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
> > >'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
> > >>=3D<BR>>.html</A>=20
> > > =
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Sat, 13 October 2007 06:09 |
Tom Bruhl
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My tech probably can.
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:4131h3prqigrc2lm11ut4lfu3lcb160n96@4ax.com...
sorry i hadn't read all the other posts but even new ones can be bad..
i've never used a magma so i'm not familiar with their hookup
protocol.
can you put a meter on the power feeds to see if their output is
correct?
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 02:06:58 -0400, "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Rick,
>I just replaced the power supply in the magma yesterday. The mecs =
are brand new/used to me.
>I have two others to try but I'm afraid I'd be toasting them one by =
one somehow.
>This is so outlandish I don't know what to think anymore.
>Tom
>
> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:qn00h3t7hi790656b1qcjk40s7bvnqvt9r@4ax.com...
> maybe the ps is going.
>
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:03:47 -0400, "Tom Bruhl" =
<arpegio@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Got everything out of magma, reseated it's card.
> >Booted computer fine with nothing in magma.
> >Tried one eds, computer still booted fine.
> >Tried booting with Mec attached but off no probs.
> >Tried with mec on booted fine but am back to no
> >clock or modules showing in Mec with Paris started.
> >I forgot to disattach the second Mecs clock from the first
> >and it was off. It may be why but I doubt it.
> >
> >I'm off to a crazy weekend but at this point am thinking
> >the Magma is toast. ? ? ?
> >I'll be back to hear your replies in 6 hours or so.
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470fc436@linux...
> > The Magma power supply just stops after about 45 seconds
> > so windows freaks and won't finish starting up.
> > "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message =
news:470fbd61@linux...
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > Hmmm...does it fail when windows starts if the MECs are =
connected or when
> > PARIS starts?
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Mike,
> > >I think Windows will boot fine, at least it used to with
> > >all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach a
> > >scsi cable to any of my three new working mecs.
> > >It didn't a couple of days ago.
> > >
> > >I'm digging deeper into the way the cards are seated now.
> > >I will check the Magma with one card and one interface at =
a=3D20
> > >time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from =
removing=3D20
> > >and reinserting the cards? =3D20
> > >
> > >This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good =
business.
> > >Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . .=3D20
> > >Tom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message =
news:470f58fa$1@linux...
> > >
> > > Hi Tom,
> > >
> > > I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any =
drivers.
> > >
> > > I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then one, =
then two, =3D
> > >etc.,
> > > until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips =
in the =3D
> > >Magma,
> > > I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. =
You may =3D
> > >want to
> > > test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong =
about that.
> > =3D
> > > It
> > > sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS =
driver for a =3D
> > >shit
> > > when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached =
(that happens
> > =3D
> > >on
> > > start up).
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > =3D20
> > >
> > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
> > > >New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
> > > >Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS =
cards
> > > >then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole =
shootin' =3D
> > >match.
> > > >I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would =
have made
> > =3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >even
> > > >the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
> > > >
> > > >I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? =
The Magma?
> > > >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older =
ones. The =3D
> > >Magma
> > > >tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a =
slot on the =3D
> > >far =3D3D
> > > >left
> > > >for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to =
left as =3D
> > >you =3D3D
> > > >face the front.
> > > >I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card =
placement.
> > > >
> > > >Everything is broken it seems.
> > > >Tom
> > > >
> > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D3D
> > > >news:470d9f41$1@linux...
> > > > I can't believe this one but . . .=3D3D20
> > > >
> > > > I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it =
won't
> > > > start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> > > > I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> > > > would power on for a split second then stop. I'm =
thinking
> > > > power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and =
1 Mec
> > > > if I baby it.
> > > >
> > > > Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start =
again.
> > > > Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought =
there was=3D3D20
> > > > a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I =
didn't see =3D3D
> > > >anything
> > > > about that in the manual.
> > > >
> > > > ? ? ?
> > > >
> > > > Why Me???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > > > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> > > >
> > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> > > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D"text/html; =3D3D
> > > >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > > ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> > > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > > ></HEAD>
> > > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Most Excellent =
Fix It =3D3D
> > > >Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>New problem. Just =
installed a =3D
> > >new =3D3D
> > > >Antec 550=3D3D20
> > > >watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Powers up nicely =
in the Magma. =3D
> > >It =3D3D
> > > >will run=3D3D20
> > > >with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>then shut off =
just before XP =3D
> > >boots and
> > > =3D3D
> > > >screws the=3D3D20
> > > >whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'll double check =
seating of the
> > =3D
> > >cards
> > > =3D3D
> > > >but what=3D3D20
> > > >else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>the new supply to =
croak? Fans =3D
> > >are =3D3D
> > > >cooling=3D3D20
> > > >well too.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm thinking I =
have a broken EDS
> > =3D
> > >then =3D3D
> > > >? Maybe=3D3D20
> > > >3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are there =
Magma =3D3D
> > > >drivers? If so=3D3D20
> > > >I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>tech was almost =
laughing at how
> > =3D
> > >old =3D3D
> > > >mine is. =3D3D20
> > > >It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>for the Magma =
card. The newer =3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >one's slot=3D3D20
> > > >#s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the front.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I think mine's =
the opposite =3D
> > >judging by
> > > =3D3D
> > > >my master=3D3D20
> > > >card placement.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Everything is =
broken it =3D3D
> > > >seems.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20
> > > >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > > > =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =3D
> > >wrote =3D3D
> > > >in message=3D3D20
> > > > <A =3D
> > =
>href=3D3D3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I can't believe =
this one but .
> > =3D
> > >. . =3D3D
> > > ></FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I've had 5 =
cards in a 13 slot
> > =3D
> > >Magma =3D3D
> > > >for=3D3D20
> > > > years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>start up and =
keep running. =3D
> > >This =3D3D
> > > >began=3D3D20
> > > > tonight as</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I tried adding =
Mec #2 to a 1 =3D
> > >Mec =3D3D
> > > >setup. The=3D3D20
> > > > Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>would power on =
for a split =3D
> > >second =3D3D
> > > >then=3D3D20
> > > > stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>power supply. =
It might still =3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >work with all=3D3D20
> > > > 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>if I baby =
it.</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Once it's off I =
have to =3D
> > >unplug, wait,
> > > =3D3D
> > > >replug and=3D3D20
> > > > start again.</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Maybe it will =
start up with =3D
> > >one Mec =3D3D
> > > >then. I=3D3D20
> > > > thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>a auto shut off =
mechanism =3D
> > >built in to
> > > =3D3D
> > > >the=3D3D20
> > > > Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>about that in =
the =3D3D
> > > >manual.</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>? ? =
?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Why =
Me???</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft =
Lockspam to fight =3D
> > >spam,
> > > =3D3D
> > > >and=3D3D20
> > > > you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> > > > =3D3D
> > > =3D
> > =
>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
/re=3D
> > >fer=3D3D
> > > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
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> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
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> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi Mike,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think Windows will =
boot fine, at =3D
> > >least it used to=3D20
> > >with</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>all 5 cards in it. Now =
it chokes =3D
> > >as soon as I=3D20
> > >attach a</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>scsi cable to any of my =
three new =3D
> > >working=3D20
> > >mecs.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It didn't a couple of =
days =3D
> > >ago.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm digging deeper into =
the way the =3D
> > >cards are=3D20
> > >seated now.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I will check the Magma =
with one card =3D
> > >and one=3D20
> > >interface at a </FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>time. Maybe the scherzo =
drivers =3D
> > >are screwy=3D20
> > >from removing </FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and reinserting the =
cards? =3D
> > ></FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This is amazing how one =
little thing =3D
> > >can ruin a=3D20
> > >good business.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Well maybe it's 10 =
little things but. .
> > =3D
> > >.=3D20
> > ></FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message <A=3D20
> > > =3D
> > =
>href=3D3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>H=
i=3D20
> > > Tom,<BR><BR>I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't =
require any=3D20
> > > drivers.<BR><BR>I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS =
cards in, then
> > =3D
> > >one,=3D20
> > > then two, etc.,<BR>until you can find the problem. If it =
is the =3D
> > >bridge=3D20
> > > chips in the Magma,<BR>I believe Windows would fail even if =
no cards =3D
> > >were in=3D20
> > > it. You may want to<BR>test it with another PCI card in it =
just =3D
> > >in case=3D20
> > > I'm wrong about that. It<BR>sounds to me like a bad card =
that is =3D
> > >
> > > throwing the PARIS driver for a shit<BR>when it tries to =
innitialize =3D
> > >any 442s=3D20
> > > that are attached (that happens on<BR>start =
up).<BR><BR>Good=3D20
> > > luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR> <BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > > =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> > > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Most Excellent Fix It =
Guys,<BR>>New=3D20
> > > problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt =3D
> > >supply.<BR>>Powers up=3D20
> > > nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards<BR>>then =
=3D
> > >shut off=3D20
> > > just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
match.<BR>>I'll =3D
> > >double=3D20
> > > check seating of the cards but what else would have =
made=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>even<BR>>the new supply to croak? Fans are =
cooling =3D
> > >well=3D20
> > > too.<BR>><BR>>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? =3D
> > >Maybe 3 . .=3D20
> > > . ? The Magma?<BR>>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? =3D
> > >If so=3D20
> > > I'd need older ones. The Magma<BR>>tech was almost =
laughing =3D
> > >at how=3D20
> > > old mine is. It has a slot on the far =
=3D3D<BR>>left<BR>>for =3D
> > >the Magma=3D20
> > > card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =
=3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>face=3D20
> > > the front.<BR>>I think mine's the opposite judging by my =
master =3D
> > >card=3D20
> > > placement.<BR>><BR>>Everything is broken it=3D20
> > > seems.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > > =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =3D
> > >in message=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> I can't believe =
this =3D
> > >one but .=3D20
> > > . .=3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma =
for =3D
> > >
> > > years. Now it won't<BR>> start up and keep =3D
> > >running. This=3D20
> > > began tonight as<BR>> I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =3D
> > >setup. =3D20
> > > The Magma<BR>> would power on for a split second then =3D
> > >stop. I'm=3D20
> > > thinking<BR>> power supply. It might still work with =3D
> > >all 5=3D20
> > > cards and 1 Mec<BR>> if I baby it.<BR>><BR>> Once =3D
> > >it's=3D20
> > > off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.<BR>> =
=3D
> > >Maybe it=3D20
> > > will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =3D
> > >was=3D3D20<BR>> a=3D20
> > > auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't =
see=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>anything<BR>> about that in the=3D20
> > > manual.<BR>><BR>> ? ? ?<BR>><BR>> Why=3D20
> > > Me???<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =3D
> > >fight spam,=3D20
> > > and you?<BR>> <A=3D20
> > > =3D
> > =
>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
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> > >size=3D3D3D2>Most=3D20
> > > Excellent Fix It=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a =
new =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>Antec=3D20
> > > 550=3D3D20<BR>>watt =3D
> > >supply.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the =
Magma. It =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>will=3D20
> > > run=3D3D20<BR>>with 5 EDS=3D20
> > > cards</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>then shut off just before XP boots =3D
> > >and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>screws=3D20
> > > the=3D3D20<BR>>whole shootin'=3D20
> > > match.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>I'll double check seating of the =
cards<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but =3D
> > >
> > > what=3D3D20<BR>>else would have made=3D20
> > > even</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans are =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>cooling=3D3D20<BR>>well=3D20
> > > too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then =
=3D3D<BR>>? =3D
> > >Maybe=3D3D20<BR>>3=3D20
> > > . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =
=3D3D<BR>>drivers? =3D
> > >If=3D20
> > > so=3D3D20<BR>>I'd need older ones. The=3D20
> > > Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =
=3D3D<BR>>mine is.=3D20
> > > =3D3D20<BR>>It has a slot on the far=3D20
> > > left</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =3D3D<BR>>one's =
=3D
> > >slot=3D3D20<BR>>#s go=3D20
> > > 1-13 rt to left as you face the=3D20
> > > front.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>I think mine's the opposite judging =
by<BR>=3D3D<BR>>my=3D20
> > > master=3D3D20<BR>>card=3D20
> > > placement.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>Everything is broken it=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>seems.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
> > ></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > > dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
PADDING-LEFT: =3D
> > >5px;=3D20
> > > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =
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> > >MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D20
> > > 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" =3D
> > ><<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > > =3D
> > =
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
> > >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > > wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> <A =
href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > > =3D
> > =
>href=3D3D'news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news=
:47=3D
> > >0d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=3D
> > >> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I can't believe =
this =3D
> > >one but . .=3D20
> > > . =3D3D<BR>></FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I've had 5 cards =
in a =3D
> > >13 slot=3D20
> > > Magma =3D3D<BR>>for=3D3D20<BR>> years. Now it=3D20
> > > won't</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>start up and keep running. This =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>began=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > tonight as</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 =
Mec =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>setup.=3D20
> > > The=3D3D20<BR>> Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>would power on for =
a =3D
> > >split second=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>then=3D3D20<BR>> stop. I'm=3D20
> > > thinking</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>power supply. It might still =
=3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>work with=3D20
> > > all=3D3D20<BR>> 5 cards and 1 =3D
> > >Mec</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>if I baby=3D20
> > > it.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Once it's off I have to =
unplug,=3D20
> > > wait,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>replug and=3D3D20<BR>> start=3D20
> > > again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec =
=3D3D<BR>>then.=3D20
> > > I=3D3D20<BR>> thought there was =3D
> > ></FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>a auto shut off =
=3D
> > >mechanism built=3D20
> > > in to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D20<BR>> Magma. I didn't =
see=3D20
> > > anything</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>about that in the=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>manual.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>? ?=3D20
> > > ?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Why =3D
> > >Me???</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =3D
> > >Polesoft Lockspam=3D20
> > > to fight spam,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > > =3D
> > =
>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
> > =
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=
> > >>=3D3D<BR>>.html</A>=3D20
> > > =3D
> > ></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR=3D
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My tech probably can.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"rick" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4131h3prqigrc2lm11ut4lfu3lcb160n96@4ax.com">news:4131h3prqig=
rc2lm11ut4lfu3lcb160n96@4ax.com</A>...</DIV>sorry=20
i hadn't read all the other posts but even new ones can be =
bad..<BR>i've never=20
used a magma so i'm not familiar with their hookup<BR>protocol.<BR>can =
you put=20
a meter on the power feeds to see if their output=20
is<BR>correct?<BR><BR><BR><BR>On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 02:06:58 -0400, "Tom =
Bruhl"=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>><BR>wrote:=
<BR><BR>>Rick,<BR>>I=20
just replaced the power supply in the magma yesterday. The mecs =
are=20
brand new/used to me.<BR>>I have two others to try but I'm afraid =
I'd be=20
toasting them one by one somehow.<BR>>This is so outlandish I don't =
know=20
what to think anymore.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "rick" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:qn00h3t7hi790656b1qcjk40s7bvnqvt9r@4ax.com">news:qn00h3t7hi7=
90656b1qcjk40s7bvnqvt9r@4ax.com</A>...<BR>> =20
maybe the ps is going.<BR>><BR>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 =
18:03:47=20
-0400, "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>><BR>>&n=
bsp;=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>> >Got everything out of magma, reseated =
it's=20
card.<BR>> >Booted computer fine with nothing in=20
magma.<BR>> >Tried one eds, computer still booted=20
fine.<BR>> >Tried booting with Mec attached but off no=20
probs.<BR>> >Tried with mec on booted fine but am back to=20
no<BR>> >clock or modules showing in Mec with Paris=20
started.<BR>> >I forgot to disattach the second Mecs clock =
from=20
the first<BR>> >and it was off. It may be why but I =
doubt=20
it.<BR>> ><BR>> >I'm off to a crazy weekend =
but at=20
this point am thinking<BR>> >the Magma is toast. ? ?=20
?<BR>> >I'll be back to hear your replies in 6 hours or=20
so.<BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A =
href=3D"news:470fc436@linux">news:470fc436@linux</A>...<BR>> =20
> The Magma power supply just stops after about 45=20
seconds<BR>> > so windows freaks and won't finish =
starting=20
up.<BR>> > "Mike Audet" =
<mike@....> wrote=20
in message <A=20
href=3D"news:470fbd61@linux">news:470fbd61@linux</A>...<BR>> =20
><BR>> > Hi Tom,<BR>> =20
><BR>> > Hmmm...does it fail when =
windows=20
starts if the MECs are connected or when<BR>> =
> =20
PARIS starts?<BR>> ><BR>> > =
"Tom=20
Bruhl" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> > ><BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > =
>Hi=20
Mike,<BR>> > >I think Windows will =
boot fine,=20
at least it used to with<BR>> > >all =
5 cards=20
in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach a<BR>> =20
> >scsi cable to any of my three new working=20
mecs.<BR>> > >It didn't a couple of =
days=20
ago.<BR>> > ><BR>> =20
> >I'm digging deeper into the way the cards =
are=20
seated now.<BR>> > >I will check the =
Magma=20
with one card and one interface at a=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
>time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from=20
removing=3D20<BR>> > >and reinserting =
the=20
cards? =3D20<BR>> > ><BR>> =20
> >This is amazing how one little thing can =
ruin a=20
good business.<BR>> > >Well maybe =
it's 10=20
little things but. . .=3D20<BR>> > =20
>Tom<BR>> > ><BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > =20
><BR>> > > "Mike Audet"=20
<Mike@...> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=20
> ><BR>> > =
> Hi=20
Tom,<BR>> > ><BR>> =20
> > I have the same old Magma, and it =
doesn't=20
require any drivers.<BR>> > =
><BR>> =20
> > I'd try booting Windows XP with no =
EDS cards=20
in, then one, then two, =3D<BR>> > =20
>etc.,<BR>> > > until you =
can find=20
the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the =3D<BR>> =20
> >Magma,<BR>> > =
> I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in =
it. You=20
may =3D<BR>> > >want to<BR>> =
> > test it with another PCI card in it =
just in=20
case I'm wrong about that.<BR>> > =20
=3D<BR>> > > It<BR>> =20
> > sounds to me like a bad card that is =
throwing the PARIS driver for a =3D<BR>> =
> =20
>shit<BR>> > > when it tries =
to=20
innitialize any 442s that are attached (that happens<BR>> =20
> =3D<BR>> > =20
>on<BR>> > > start=20
up).<BR>> > ><BR>> =20
> > Good luck!<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > =
> =20
Mike<BR>> > > =20
=3D20<BR>> > ><BR>> =20
> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> > > =
><BR>> =20
> > ><BR>> =
> =20
> >Most Excellent Fix It Guys,<BR>> =20
> > >New problem. Just =
installed a new=20
Antec 550 watt supply.<BR>> > > =
>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS=20
cards<BR>> > > >then shut =
off just=20
before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =3D<BR>> =20
> >match.<BR>> > =
> >I'll double check seating of the cards but what else =
would have=20
made<BR>> > =3D<BR>> =20
> >=3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>even<BR>> > > >the new =
supply to=20
croak? Fans are cooling well too.<BR>> =
> =20
> ><BR>> > > =
>I'm=20
thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The=20
Magma?<BR>> > > >Damn. =
Are=20
there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The=20
=3D<BR>> > >Magma<BR>> =20
> > >tech was almost laughing at how =
old mine=20
is. It has a slot on the =3D<BR>> =
> >far=20
=3D3D<BR>> > > =
>left<BR>> =20
> > >for the Magma card. The =
newer=20
one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as =3D<BR>> =
> =20
>you =3D3D<BR>> > > >face =
the=20
front.<BR>> > > >I think =
mine's the=20
opposite judging by my master card placement.<BR>> =20
> > ><BR>> =
> =20
> >Everything is broken it seems.<BR>> =20
> > >Tom<BR>> =
> =20
> ><BR>> > > =
> =20
"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
=3D3D<BR>> > > =20
>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> > =
> =20
> I can't believe this one but . . .=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > ><BR>> =
> =20
> > I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for =
years. Now=20
it won't<BR>> > > > =
start up=20
and keep running. This began tonight as<BR>> =20
> > > I tried adding Mec #2 to =
a 1 Mec=20
setup. The Magma<BR>> > > =
> would power on for a split second then stop. I'm=20
thinking<BR>> > > > =
power=20
supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 =
Mec<BR>> =20
> > > if I baby =
it.<BR>> =20
> > ><BR>> =
> =20
> > Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and =
start=20
again.<BR>> > > > =
Maybe it=20
will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =
was=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > a auto shut off mechanism =
built=20
in to the Magma. I didn't see =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >anything<BR>> > =
> =20
> about that in the manual.<BR>> =
> =20
> ><BR>> > > =
> ? ?=20
?<BR>> > > ><BR>> =20
> > > Why Me???<BR>> =20
> > ><BR>> =
> =20
> ><BR>> > > =
> I=20
choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?<BR>> =20
> > > <A=20
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>New problem.=20
Just installed a =3D<BR>> > >new=20
=3D3D<BR>> > > >Antec=20
550=3D3D20<BR>> > > >watt=20
supply.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Powers up=20
nicely in the Magma. =3D<BR>> > >It=20
=3D3D<BR>> > > >will=20
run=3D3D20<BR>> > > >with 5 =
EDS=20
cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>then shut off =
just before=20
XP =3D<BR>> > >boots =
and<BR>> =20
> > =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >screws the=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
>whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>I'll double check seating of the<BR>> =20
> =3D<BR>> > =20
>cards<BR>> > > =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > >but what=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > >else would have made=20
even</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>the new =
supply to croak?=20
Fans =3D<BR>> > >are =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > >cooling=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > >well=20
too.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> > > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm thinking =
I have a=20
broken EDS<BR>> > =3D<BR>> =20
> >then =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >? Maybe=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
>3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >drivers? If so=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> >I'd need older ones. The=20
Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>tech was =
almost laughing=20
at how<BR>> > =3D<BR>> =20
> >old =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >mine is. =3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
>It has a slot on the far =
left</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =3D<BR>> =20
> >=3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>one's slot=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
>#s go=20
1-13 rt to left as you face the =
front.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>I think mine's the opposite =3D<BR>> =20
> >judging by<BR>> =
> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> > > =
>my=20
master=3D3D20<BR>> > > >card =
placement.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Everything is =
broken it=20
=3D3D<BR>> > > =20
>seems.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV& ;gt; <BR>> =20
> > ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> =20
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> =20
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>> > >wrote =3D3D<BR>> =
> > >in message=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > <A =3D<BR>> =20
> >href=3D3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:47=
0d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=
> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I can't believe this one but =
..<BR>> =20
> =3D<BR>> > >. =
..=20
=3D3D<BR>> > > =20
></FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > > =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I've had 5 cards =
in a 13=20
slot<BR>> > =3D<BR>> =20
> >Magma =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >for=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>start up and keep running. =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >This =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >began=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> tonight as</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >Mec =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >setup. The=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>would=20
power on for a split =3D<BR>> > =
>second=20
=3D3D<BR>> > > =20
>then=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
> stop.=20
I'm thinking</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>power=20
supply. It might still =3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D<BR>> > > >work =
with=20
all=3D3D20<BR>> > > > =
5 cards=20
and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>if I=20
baby it.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Once=20
it's off I have to =3D<BR>> > =
>unplug,=20
wait,<BR>> > > =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > >replug and=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > start=20
again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Maybe=20
it will start up with =3D<BR>> > >one =
Mec=20
=3D3D<BR>> > > >then.=20
I=3D3D20<BR>> > > > =
thought=20
there was </FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>a auto=20
shut off mechanism =3D<BR>> > >built =
in=20
to<BR>> > > =3D3D<BR>> =
> > >the=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > Magma. I didn't see=20
anything</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>about=20
that in the =3D3D<BR>> > > =20
>manual.</FONT></DIV><BR >> =
> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>? ?=20
?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > > =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Why=20
Me???</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I =
choose=20
Polesoft Lockspam to fight =3D<BR>> > =20
>spam,<BR>> > > =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > >and=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > =20
you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> > > =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
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ttp://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re</A>=3D<B=
R>> =20
> >fer=3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
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> > ><BR>> =
> =20
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><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
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><HTML><HEAD><BR>> > =
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><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> > =20
></HEAD><BR>> > ><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi=20
Mike,</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think Windows =
will boot=20
fine, at =3D<BR>> > >least it used=20
to=3D20<BR>> > =20
>with</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>all 5 cards in =
it. Now=20
it chokes =3D<BR>> > >as soon as=20
I=3D20<BR>> > >attach=20
a</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>scsi cable to any =
of my three=20
new =3D<BR>> > =
>working=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>mecs.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>It=20
didn't a couple of days =3D<BR>> > =20
>ago.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm digging deeper into the way the =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >cards are=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
>seated now.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I will check the =
Magma with=20
one card =3D<BR>> > >and =
one=3D20<BR>> =20
> >interface at a=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>time. Maybe =
the scherzo=20
drivers =3D<BR>> > >are =
screwy=3D20<BR>> =20
> >from removing=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and reinserting =
the=20
cards? =3D<BR>> > =20
></FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This is amazing how one little thing =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >can ruin a=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
>good business.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>Well=20
maybe it's 10 little things but. .<BR>> =
> =20
=3D<BR>> > >.=3D20<BR>> =20
> ></FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>> =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > ><DIV>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>> =20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
PADDING-LEFT: 5px;=20
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>> > =
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> =20
> <DIV>"Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message=20
<A=3D20<BR>> > > =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=3D=
20'>news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV&=
gt;<BR>Hi=3D20</A><BR>> =20
> > Tom,<BR><BR>I have the =
same old=20
Magma, and it doesn't require any=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> drivers.<BR><BR>I'd try booting Windows XP with =
no EDS=20
cards in, then<BR>> > =3D<BR>> =20
> >one,=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> then two, etc.,<BR>until you can find the =
problem. If=20
it is the =3D<BR>> > =
>bridge=3D20<BR>> =20
> > chips in the Magma,<BR>I =
believe=20
Windows would fail even if no cards =3D<BR>> =
> =20
>were in=3D20<BR>> > > =
it. You=20
may want to<BR>test it with another PCI card in it just =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >in case=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> I'm wrong about that. It<BR>sounds to me like a =
bad=20
card that is =3D<BR>> > =
><BR>> =20
> > throwing the PARIS driver for a=20
shit<BR>when it tries to innitialize =3D<BR>> =20
> >any 442s=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> that are attached (that happens on<BR>start=20
up).<BR><BR>Good=3D20<BR>> > =
> luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR& gt; =20
<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> > href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t; =20
> > =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Most Excellent Fix It=20
Guys,<BR>>New=3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt =3D<BR>> =20
> >supply.<BR>>Powers =
up=3D20<BR>> =20
> > nicely in the Magma. It will =
run with=20
5 EDS cards<BR>>then =3D<BR>> > =
>shut=20
off=3D20<BR>> > > just before =
XP boots=20
and screws the whole shootin' match.<BR>>I'll =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >double=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> check seating of the cards but what else would have=20
made=3D20<BR>> > > =20
=3D3D<BR>>even<BR>> ;the new supply to croak? =
Fans are=20
cooling =3D<BR>> > =
>well=3D20<BR>> =20
> > too.<BR>><BR>>I'm =
thinking=20
I have a broken EDS then ? =3D<BR>> =
> =20
>Maybe 3 . .=3D20<BR>> > > . =
? =20
The Magma?<BR>>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? =20
=3D<BR>> > >If so=3D20<BR>> =20
> > I'd need older ones. The=20
Magma<BR>>tech was almost laughing =3D<BR>> =20
> >at how=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> old mine is. It has a slot on the far=20
=3D3D<BR>>left<BR>> ;for =3D<BR>> =
> =20
>the Magma=3D20<BR>> > > =
card. =20
The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =3D<BR>> =20
> >=3D3D<BR>>face=3D20<BR>> =20
> > the front.<BR>>I think =
mine's the=20
opposite judging by my master =3D<BR>> > =
>card=3D20<BR>> > > =20
placement.<BR>><BR>&g t;Everything is broken =
it=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =20
seems.<BR>>Tom<BR>> ;<BR>> "Tom Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> > > =
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
wrote =3D<BR>> > >in =
message=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> I =
can't believe=20
this =3D<BR>> > >one but =
..=3D20<BR>> =20
> > . =
..=3D3D20<BR>><BR>> ; =20
I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for =3D<BR>> =
> =20
><BR>> > > years. Now =
it=20
won't<BR>> start up and keep =3D<BR>> =20
> >running. This=3D20<BR>> =20
> > began tonight as<BR>> =
I tried=20
adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =3D<BR>> > =
>setup.=20
=3D20<BR>> > > The=20
Magma<BR>> would power on for a split second then=20
=3D<BR>> > >stop. =
I'm=3D20<BR>> =20
> > thinking<BR>> power=20
supply. It might still work with =3D<BR>> =
> =20
>all 5=3D20<BR>> > > cards =
and 1=20
Mec<BR>> if I baby =
it.<BR>><BR>>& nbsp; Once=20
=3D<BR>> > >it's=3D20<BR>> =20
> > off I have to unplug, wait, replug =
and start=20
again.<BR>> =3D<BR>> > =
>Maybe=20
it=3D20<BR>> > > will start up =
with one=20
Mec then. I thought there =3D<BR>> =
> =20
>was=3D3D20<BR>> a=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I =
didn't=20
see=3D20<BR>> > > =20
=3D3D<BR>>anything<BR>&am p;gt; about that in=20
the=3D20<BR>> > > =20
manual.<BR>><BR>>& amp;nbsp; ? ?=20
?<BR>><BR>>&nb sp; Why=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =20
Me???<BR>><BR>>&am p;lt;BR>> I choose =
Polesoft=20
Lockspam to =3D<BR>> > >fight=20
spam,=3D20<BR>> > > and=20
you?<BR>> <A=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> =3D<BR>> > >href=3D3D"<A=20
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bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>& lt;DIV><FONT =
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=3D<BR>> > =
>size=3D3D3D2>Most=3D20<BR>> =20
> > Excellent Fix It=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =20
=
=3D3D<BR>>Guys,</FONT>&am p;lt;/DIV><BR>><DIV&g t=
;<FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>New =
problem.=20
Just installed a new =3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D<BR>>Antec=3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
550=3D3D20<BR>>watt =3D<BR>> > =20
=
>supply.</FONT></DIV>& ;lt;BR>><DIV><FONT=3D2=
0<BR>> =20
> > face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Powers up=20
nicely in the Magma. It =3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D<BR>>will=3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
run=3D3D20<BR>>with 5 EDS=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> =
cards</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>> > =
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2>then shut off just =
before XP=20
boots =3D<BR>> > =20
>and<BR>=3D3D<BR>> screws=3D20 <BR>> =20
> > the=3D3D20<BR>>whole=20
shootin'=3D20<BR>> > > =20
match.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>> > =
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2>I'll double check =
seating of=20
the cards<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but =3D<BR>> =
> =20
><BR>> > > =20
what=3D3D20<BR>>else would have made=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =20
even</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;><DIV><FONT =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2>the new supply to =
croak? Fans=20
are =3D<BR>> > =20
=
>=3D3D<BR>>cooling=3D3D20< ;BR>>well=3D20 <BR>> =
;=20
> > =20
too.</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;><DIV><FONT =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>><DIV&am p;gt;<FONT =3D<BR>> =20
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2>I'm thinking I have =
a broken=20
EDS then =3D3D<BR>>? =3D<BR>> > =
>Maybe=3D3D20<BR>>3=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> . . . ? The=20
Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>> > ><BR>> =20
> > face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are there=20
Magma =3D3D<BR>>drivers? =3D<BR>> =
> =20
>If=3D20<BR>> > > =20
so=3D3D20<BR>>I'd need older ones. The=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =20
Magma</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>> > =
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2>tech was almost =
laughing at=20
how old =3D3D<BR>>mine is.=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> =3D3D20<BR>>It has a slot on the =
far=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =20
left</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;><DIV><FONT =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2>for the Magma card. =
The newer=20
=3D3D<BR>>one's =3D<BR>> > =20
>slot=3D3D20<BR>>#s go=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> 1-13 rt to left as you face the=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =20
front.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>> > =
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2>I think mine's the =
opposite=20
judging by<BR>=3D3D<BR>>my=3D20<BR >> =20
> > =20
master=3D3D20<BR>>card=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> =20
placement.</FONT></DIV><B R>><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>> > =
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>><DIV&am p;gt;<FONT =3D<BR>> =20
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Everything is broken =
it=3D20<BR>> > > =20
=
=3D3D<BR>>seems.</FONT>&a mp;lt;/DIV><BR>><DIV& g=
t;<FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
> > face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =20
=
size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV& ;gt;<BR>><DIV><=
FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
> > face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
=3D<BR>> > =20
></DIV><BR>>&l t;BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 <BR>> =20
> > =20
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Sat, 13 October 2007 23:09 |
Tom Bruhl
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My tech suspects the magma.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4710c511@linux...
My tech probably can.
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:4131h3prqigrc2lm11ut4lfu3lcb160n96@4ax.com...
sorry i hadn't read all the other posts but even new ones can be =
bad..
i've never used a magma so i'm not familiar with their hookup
protocol.
can you put a meter on the power feeds to see if their output is
correct?
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 02:06:58 -0400, "Tom Bruhl" =
<arpegio@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Rick,
>I just replaced the power supply in the magma yesterday. The mecs =
are brand new/used to me.
>I have two others to try but I'm afraid I'd be toasting them one by =
one somehow.
>This is so outlandish I don't know what to think anymore.
>Tom
>
> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:qn00h3t7hi790656b1qcjk40s7bvnqvt9r@4ax.com...
> maybe the ps is going.
>
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:03:47 -0400, "Tom Bruhl" =
<arpegio@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Got everything out of magma, reseated it's card.
> >Booted computer fine with nothing in magma.
> >Tried one eds, computer still booted fine.
> >Tried booting with Mec attached but off no probs.
> >Tried with mec on booted fine but am back to no
> >clock or modules showing in Mec with Paris started.
> >I forgot to disattach the second Mecs clock from the first
> >and it was off. It may be why but I doubt it.
> >
> >I'm off to a crazy weekend but at this point am thinking
> >the Magma is toast. ? ? ?
> >I'll be back to hear your replies in 6 hours or so.
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470fc436@linux...
> > The Magma power supply just stops after about 45 seconds
> > so windows freaks and won't finish starting up.
> > "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message =
news:470fbd61@linux...
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > Hmmm...does it fail when windows starts if the MECs are =
connected or when
> > PARIS starts?
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Mike,
> > >I think Windows will boot fine, at least it used to with
> > >all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach a
> > >scsi cable to any of my three new working mecs.
> > >It didn't a couple of days ago.
> > >
> > >I'm digging deeper into the way the cards are seated now.
> > >I will check the Magma with one card and one interface at =
a=3D20
> > >time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from =
removing=3D20
> > >and reinserting the cards? =3D20
> > >
> > >This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good =
business.
> > >Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . .=3D20
> > >Tom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message =
news:470f58fa$1@linux...
> > >
> > > Hi Tom,
> > >
> > > I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any =
drivers.
> > >
> > > I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then =
one, then two, =3D
> > >etc.,
> > > until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge =
chips in the =3D
> > >Magma,
> > > I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. =
You may =3D
> > >want to
> > > test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm =
wrong about that.
> > =3D
> > > It
> > > sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS =
driver for a =3D
> > >shit
> > > when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached =
(that happens
> > =3D
> > >on
> > > start up).
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > =3D20
> > >
> > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
> > > >New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt =
supply.
> > > >Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS =
cards
> > > >then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole =
shootin' =3D
> > >match.
> > > >I'll double check seating of the cards but what else =
would have made
> > =3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >even
> > > >the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
> > > >
> > > >I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? =
The Magma?
> > > >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older =
ones. The =3D
> > >Magma
> > > >tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a =
slot on the =3D
> > >far =3D3D
> > > >left
> > > >for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt =
to left as =3D
> > >you =3D3D
> > > >face the front.
> > > >I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card =
placement.
> > > >
> > > >Everything is broken it seems.
> > > >Tom
> > > >
> > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
=3D3D
> > > >news:470d9f41$1@linux...
> > > > I can't believe this one but . . .=3D3D20
> > > >
> > > > I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it =
won't
> > > > start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> > > > I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> > > > would power on for a split second then stop. I'm =
thinking
> > > > power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards =
and 1 Mec
> > > > if I baby it.
> > > >
> > > > Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start =
again.
> > > > Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought =
there was=3D3D20
> > > > a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I =
didn't see =3D3D
> > > >anything
> > > > about that in the manual.
> > > >
> > > > ? ? ?
> > > >
> > > > Why Me???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > > > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> > > >
> > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> > > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D"text/html; =3D3D
> > > >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > > ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
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> > > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Most Excellent =
Fix It =3D3D
> > > >Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>New problem. =
Just installed a =3D
> > >new =3D3D
> > > >Antec 550=3D3D20
> > > >watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Powers up =
nicely in the Magma. =3D
> > >It =3D3D
> > > >will run=3D3D20
> > > >with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>then shut off =
just before XP =3D
> > >boots and
> > > =3D3D
> > > >screws the=3D3D20
> > > >whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'll double =
check seating of the
> > =3D
> > >cards
> > > =3D3D
> > > >but what=3D3D20
> > > >else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>the new supply =
to croak? Fans =3D
> > >are =3D3D
> > > >cooling=3D3D20
> > > >well too.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm thinking I =
have a broken EDS
> > =3D
> > >then =3D3D
> > > >? Maybe=3D3D20
> > > >3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are there =
Magma =3D3D
> > > >drivers? If so=3D3D20
> > > >I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>tech was almost =
laughing at how
> > =3D
> > >old =3D3D
> > > >mine is. =3D3D20
> > > >It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>for the Magma =
card. The newer =3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >one's slot=3D3D20
> > > >#s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the =
front.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I think mine's =
the opposite =3D
> > >judging by
> > > =3D3D
> > > >my master=3D3D20
> > > >card placement.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Everything is =
broken it =3D3D
> > > >seems.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20
> > > >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > > > =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =3D
> > >wrote =3D3D
> > > >in message=3D3D20
> > > > <A =3D
> > =
>href=3D3D3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I can't =
believe this one but .
> > =3D
> > >. . =3D3D
> > > ></FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I've had 5 =
cards in a 13 slot
> > =3D
> > >Magma =3D3D
> > > >for=3D3D20
> > > > years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>start up and =
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> > >This =3D3D
> > > >began=3D3D20
> > > > tonight as</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I tried =
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> > >Mec =3D3D
> > > >setup. The=3D3D20
> > > > Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>would power =
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> > >second =3D3D
> > > >then=3D3D20
> > > > stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>power supply. =
It might still =3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >work with all=3D3D20
> > > > 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>if I baby =
it.</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Once it's off =
I have to =3D
> > >unplug, wait,
> > > =3D3D
> > > >replug and=3D3D20
> > > > start again.</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Maybe it will =
start up with =3D
> > >one Mec =3D3D
> > > >then. I=3D3D20
> > > > thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>a auto shut =
off mechanism =3D
> > >built in to
> > > =3D3D
> > > >the=3D3D20
> > > > Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>about that in =
the =3D3D
> > > >manual.</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>? ? =
?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Why =
Me???</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft =
Lockspam to fight =3D
> > >spam,
> > > =3D3D
> > > >and=3D3D20
> > > > you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> > > > =3D3D
> > > =3D
> > =
>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
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> > >fer=3D3D
> > > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> > ><HTML><HEAD>
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> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi Mike,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think Windows will =
boot fine, at =3D
> > >least it used to=3D20
> > >with</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>all 5 cards in it. =
Now it chokes =3D
> > >as soon as I=3D20
> > >attach a</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>scsi cable to any of =
my three new =3D
> > >working=3D20
> > >mecs.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It didn't a couple of =
days =3D
> > >ago.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm digging deeper =
into the way the =3D
> > >cards are=3D20
> > >seated now.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I will check the Magma =
with one card =3D
> > >and one=3D20
> > >interface at a </FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>time. Maybe the =
scherzo drivers =3D
> > >are screwy=3D20
> > >from removing </FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and reinserting the =
cards? =3D
> > ></FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This is amazing how =
one little thing =3D
> > >can ruin a=3D20
> > >good business.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Well maybe it's 10 =
little things but. .
> > =3D
> > >.=3D20
> > ></FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message <A=3D20
> > > =3D
> > =
>href=3D3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>H=
i=3D20
> > > Tom,<BR><BR>I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't =
require any=3D20
> > > drivers.<BR><BR>I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS =
cards in, then
> > =3D
> > >one,=3D20
> > > then two, etc.,<BR>until you can find the problem. If it =
is the =3D
> > >bridge=3D20
> > > chips in the Magma,<BR>I believe Windows would fail even =
if no cards =3D
> > >were in=3D20
> > > it. You may want to<BR>test it with another PCI card in =
it just =3D
> > >in case=3D20
> > > I'm wrong about that. It<BR>sounds to me like a bad card =
that is =3D
> > >
> > > throwing the PARIS driver for a shit<BR>when it tries to =
innitialize =3D
> > >any 442s=3D20
> > > that are attached (that happens on<BR>start =
up).<BR><BR>Good=3D20
> > > luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR> <BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > > =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> > > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Most Excellent Fix It =
Guys,<BR>>New=3D20
> > > problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt =3D
> > >supply.<BR>>Powers up=3D20
> > > nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS =
cards<BR>>then =3D
> > >shut off=3D20
> > > just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
match.<BR>>I'll =3D
> > >double=3D20
> > > check seating of the cards but what else would have =
made=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>even<BR>>the new supply to croak? Fans are =
cooling =3D
> > >well=3D20
> > > too.<BR>><BR>>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? =
=3D
> > >Maybe 3 . .=3D20
> > > . ? The Magma?<BR>>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? =3D
> > >If so=3D20
> > > I'd need older ones. The Magma<BR>>tech was almost =
laughing =3D
> > >at how=3D20
> > > old mine is. It has a slot on the far =
=3D3D<BR>>left<BR>>for =3D
> > >the Magma=3D20
> > > card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =
=3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>face=3D20
> > > the front.<BR>>I think mine's the opposite judging by my =
master =3D
> > >card=3D20
> > > placement.<BR>><BR>>Everything is broken it=3D20
> > > seems.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > > =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =3D
> > >in message=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> I can't believe =
this =3D
> > >one but .=3D20
> > > . .=3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma =
for =3D
> > >
> > > years. Now it won't<BR>> start up and keep =3D
> > >running. This=3D20
> > > began tonight as<BR>> I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
=3D
> > >setup. =3D20
> > > The Magma<BR>> would power on for a split second then =
=3D
> > >stop. I'm=3D20
> > > thinking<BR>> power supply. It might still work with =
=3D
> > >all 5=3D20
> > > cards and 1 Mec<BR>> if I baby it.<BR>><BR>> Once =3D
> > >it's=3D20
> > > off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.<BR>> =
=3D
> > >Maybe it=3D20
> > > will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =3D
> > >was=3D3D20<BR>> a=3D20
> > > auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't =
see=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>anything<BR>> about that in the=3D20
> > > manual.<BR>><BR>> ? ? ?<BR>><BR>> Why=3D20
> > > Me???<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =3D
> > >fight spam,=3D20
> > > and you?<BR>> <A=3D20
> > > =3D
> > =
>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
> > >.html</A> =3D20
> > > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
4.0=3D20
> > > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> > > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> > >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > > 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> > > =3D
> > >name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
> > >D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> > > bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
=3D
> > >size=3D3D3D2>Most=3D20
> > > Excellent Fix It=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>New problem. Just installed =
a new =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>Antec=3D20
> > > 550=3D3D20<BR>>watt =3D
> > >supply.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the =
Magma. It =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>will=3D20
> > > run=3D3D20<BR>>with 5 EDS=3D20
> > > cards</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>then shut off just before XP boots =3D
> > >and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>screws=3D20
> > > the=3D3D20<BR>>whole shootin'=3D20
> > > match.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>I'll double check seating of the =
cards<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but =3D
> > >
> > > what=3D3D20<BR>>else would have made=3D20
> > > even</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans are =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>cooling=3D3D20<BR>>well=3D20
> > > too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then =
=3D3D<BR>>? =3D
> > >Maybe=3D3D20<BR>>3=3D20
> > > . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =
=3D3D<BR>>drivers? =3D
> > >If=3D20
> > > so=3D3D20<BR>>I'd need older ones. The=3D20
> > > Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =
=3D3D<BR>>mine is.=3D20
> > > =3D3D20<BR>>It has a slot on the far=3D20
> > > left</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =
=3D3D<BR>>one's =3D
> > >slot=3D3D20<BR>>#s go=3D20
> > > 1-13 rt to left as you face the=3D20
> > > front.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>I think mine's the opposite judging =
by<BR>=3D3D<BR>>my=3D20
> > > master=3D3D20<BR>>card=3D20
> > > placement.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>Everything is broken it=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>seems.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
> > ></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > > dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
PADDING-LEFT: =3D
> > >5px;=3D20
> > > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px =
solid; =3D
> > >MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D20
> > > 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" =3D
> > ><<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > > =3D
> > =
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
> > >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > > wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> <A =
href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > > =3D
> > =
>href=3D3D'news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news=
:47=3D
> > =
>0d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=3D
> > >> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I can't believe =
this =3D
> > >one but . .=3D20
> > > . =3D3D<BR>></FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I've had 5 cards =
in a =3D
> > >13 slot=3D20
> > > Magma =3D3D<BR>>for=3D3D20<BR>> years. Now it=3D20
> > > won't</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>start up and keep running. This =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>began=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > tonight as</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a =
1 Mec =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>setup.=3D20
> > > The=3D3D20<BR>> Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>would power on =
for a =3D
> > >split second=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>then=3D3D20<BR>> stop. I'm=3D20
> > > thinking</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>power supply. It might =
still =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>work with=3D20
> > > all=3D3D20<BR>> 5 cards and 1 =3D
> > >Mec</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>if I baby=3D20
> > > it.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Once it's off I have to =
unplug,=3D20
> > > wait,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>replug and=3D3D20<BR>> start=3D20
> > > again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec =
=3D3D<BR>>then.=3D20
> > > I=3D3D20<BR>> thought there was =3D
> > ></FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>a auto shut off =
=3D
> > >mechanism built=3D20
> > > in to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D20<BR>> Magma. I didn't =
see=3D20
> > > anything</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>about that in the=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>manual.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>? ?=3D20
> > > ?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Why =3D
> > >Me???</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =3D
> > >Polesoft Lockspam=3D20
> > > to fight spam,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > > =3D
> > =
>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
> > =
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=
> > >>=3D3D<BR>>.html</A>=3D20
> > > =3D
> > ></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR=3D
> > >>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My tech suspects the =
magma.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:4710c511@linux">news:4710c511@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My tech probably can.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"rick" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4131h3prqigrc2lm11ut4lfu3lcb160n96@4ax.com">news:4131h3prqig=
rc2lm11ut4lfu3lcb160n96@4ax.com</A>...</DIV>sorry=20
i hadn't read all the other posts but even new ones can be =
bad..<BR>i've=20
never used a magma so i'm not familiar with their =
hookup<BR>protocol.<BR>can=20
you put a meter on the power feeds to see if their output=20
is<BR>correct?<BR><BR><BR><BR>On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 02:06:58 -0400, =
"Tom=20
Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>><BR>wrote:=
<BR><BR>>Rick,<BR>>I=20
just replaced the power supply in the magma yesterday. The =
mecs are=20
brand new/used to me.<BR>>I have two others to try but I'm afraid =
I'd be=20
toasting them one by one somehow.<BR>>This is so outlandish I =
don't know=20
what to think anymore.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "rick" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:qn00h3t7hi790656b1qcjk40s7bvnqvt9r@4ax.com">news:qn00h3t7hi7=
90656b1qcjk40s7bvnqvt9r@4ax.com</A>...<BR>> =20
maybe the ps is going.<BR>><BR>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 =
18:03:47=20
-0400, "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>><BR>>&n=
bsp;=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>> >Got everything out of magma, =
reseated it's=20
card.<BR>> >Booted computer fine with nothing in=20
magma.<BR>> >Tried one eds, computer still booted=20
fine.<BR>> >Tried booting with Mec attached but off no=20
probs.<BR>> >Tried with mec on booted fine but am back =
to=20
no<BR>> >clock or modules showing in Mec with Paris=20
started.<BR>> >I forgot to disattach the second Mecs =
clock from=20
the first<BR>> >and it was off. It may be why but =
I doubt=20
it.<BR>> ><BR>> >I'm off to a crazy weekend =
but at=20
this point am thinking<BR>> >the Magma is toast. ? ?=20
?<BR>> >I'll be back to hear your replies in 6 hours or=20
so.<BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:470fc436@linux">news:470fc436@linux</A>...<BR>> =20
> The Magma power supply just stops after about 45=20
seconds<BR>> > so windows freaks and won't finish =
starting=20
up.<BR>> > "Mike Audet" =
<mike@....>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:470fbd61@linux">news:470fbd61@linux</A>...<BR>> =20
><BR>> > Hi Tom,<BR>> =20
><BR>> > Hmmm...does it fail when =
windows=20
starts if the MECs are connected or when<BR>> =20
> PARIS starts?<BR>> =
><BR>> =20
> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> > ><BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > =
>Hi=20
Mike,<BR>> > >I think Windows will =
boot=20
fine, at least it used to with<BR>> > =
>all=20
5 cards in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach =
a<BR>> =20
> >scsi cable to any of my three new working =
mecs.<BR>> > >It didn't a couple of =
days=20
ago.<BR>> > ><BR>> =20
> >I'm digging deeper into the way the cards =
are=20
seated now.<BR>> > >I will check =
the Magma=20
with one card and one interface at a=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
>time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from=20
removing=3D20<BR>> > >and =
reinserting the=20
cards? =3D20<BR>> > ><BR>> =
> >This is amazing how one little thing can =
ruin a=20
good business.<BR>> > >Well maybe =
it's 10=20
little things but. . .=3D20<BR>> > =20
>Tom<BR>> > ><BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > =20
><BR>> > > "Mike Audet"=20
<Mike@...> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=20
> ><BR>> > =
> =20
Hi Tom,<BR>> > ><BR>> =20
> > I have the same old Magma, and it =
doesn't=20
require any drivers.<BR>> > =
><BR>> =20
> > I'd try booting Windows XP with no =
EDS=20
cards in, then one, then two, =3D<BR>> =
> =20
>etc.,<BR>> > > until you =
can find=20
the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >Magma,<BR>> =
> =20
> I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in =
it. =20
You may =3D<BR>> > >want =
to<BR>> =20
> > test it with another PCI card in =
it just=20
in case I'm wrong about that.<BR>> > =20
=3D<BR>> > > It<BR>> =20
> > sounds to me like a bad card that =
is=20
throwing the PARIS driver for a =3D<BR>> =
> =20
>shit<BR>> > > when it =
tries to=20
innitialize any 442s that are attached (that happens<BR>> =20
> =3D<BR>> > =20
>on<BR>> > > start=20
up).<BR>> > ><BR>> =20
> > Good luck!<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > =
> =20
Mike<BR>> > > =20
=3D20<BR>> > ><BR>> =20
> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> > > =
><BR>> =20
> > ><BR>> =
> =20
> >Most Excellent Fix It Guys,<BR>> =20
> > >New problem. Just =
installed a=20
new Antec 550 watt supply.<BR>> > =
> =20
>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS=20
cards<BR>> > > >then shut =
off just=20
before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =3D<BR>> =20
> >match.<BR>> =
> =20
> >I'll double check seating of the cards but what else =
would=20
have made<BR>> > =3D<BR>> =20
> >=3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >even<BR>> > > =
>the=20
new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.<BR>> =20
> > ><BR>> =
> =20
> >I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 =
.. . .=20
? The Magma?<BR>> > > =20
>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older=20
ones. The =3D<BR>> > =20
>Magma<BR>> > > >tech =
was=20
almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the=20
=3D<BR>> > >far =3D3D<BR>> =
> > >left<BR>> =20
> > >for the Magma card. The =
newer=20
one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as =3D<BR>> =
> =20
>you =3D3D<BR>> > > =
>face the=20
front.<BR>> > > >I think =
mine's=20
the opposite judging by my master card placement.<BR>> =20
> > ><BR>> =
> =20
> >Everything is broken it seems.<BR>> =20
> > >Tom<BR>> =20
> > ><BR>> =
> =20
> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message =3D3D<BR>> > > =20
>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> > =
> =20
> I can't believe this one but . . .=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > ><BR>> =
> =20
> > I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for =
years. =20
Now it won't<BR>> > > =
> =20
start up and keep running. This began tonight as<BR>> =
> > > I tried adding Mec #2 =
to a 1=20
Mec setup. The Magma<BR>> > =
> =20
> would power on for a split second then stop. I'm=20
thinking<BR>> > > > =
power=20
supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 =
Mec<BR>> =20
> > > if I baby =
it.<BR>> =20
> > ><BR>> =
> =20
> > Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug =
and start=20
again.<BR>> > > > =
Maybe it=20
will start up with one Mec then. I thought there=20
was=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
> a auto=20
shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see=20
=3D3D<BR>> > > =20
>anything<BR>> > > =
> =20
about that in the manual.<BR>> > =
> =20
><BR>> > > > ? ?=20
?<BR>> > > ><BR>> =
> > > Why Me???<BR>> =
> > ><BR>> =
> =20
> ><BR>> > > =
> I=20
choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?<BR>> =20
> > > <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
..html</A> =20
=3D20<BR>> > > =
><BR>> =20
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC =
"-//W3C//DTD=20
HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> > =20
> ><HTML><HEAD><BR>> =
> =20
> ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D"text/html;=20
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><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> > =
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><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =
> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Most=20
Excellent Fix It =3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>New problem.=20
Just installed a =3D<BR>> > >new=20
=3D3D<BR>> > > >Antec=20
550=3D3D20<BR>> > > >watt=20
supply.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Powers up=20
nicely in the Magma. =3D<BR>> > >It =
=3D3D<BR>> > > >will=20
run=3D3D20<BR>> > > >with =
5 EDS=20
cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>then shut=20
off just before XP =3D<BR>> > =
>boots=20
and<BR>> > > =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > >screws =
the=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > >whole shootin'=20
match.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>I'll double=20
check seating of the<BR>> > =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >cards<BR>> =
> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> > > =
>but=20
what=3D3D20<BR>> > > >else =
would=20
have made even</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>the new=20
supply to croak? Fans =3D<BR>> > =
>are=20
=3D3D<BR>> > > =20
>cooling=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
>well=20
too.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
> > ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS<BR>> =20
> =3D<BR>> > =
>then=20
=3D3D<BR>> > > >?=20
Maybe=3D3D20<BR>> > > >3 . =
.. . ? The=20
Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are=20
there Magma =3D3D<BR>> > > =
>drivers?=20
If so=3D3D20<BR>> > > >I'd =
need=20
older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at how<BR>> =20
> =3D<BR>> > =
>old=20
=3D3D<BR>> > > >mine is.=20
=3D3D20<BR>> > > >It has a =
slot on=20
the far left</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>for the=20
Magma card. The newer =3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D<BR>> > > >one's=20
slot=3D3D20<BR>> > > >#s =
go 1-13 rt=20
to left as you face the =
front.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>I think mine's the opposite =3D<BR>> =20
> >judging by<BR>> =
> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> > > =
>my=20
master=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
>card=20
placement.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
> > ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Everything is broken it =3D3D<BR>> =20
> > =20
>seems.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV& ;gt; <BR>> =20
> > ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE=20
dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px;=20
=3D<BR>> > >=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px =
solid;=20
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> > =
> =20
> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>> > >wrote =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > >in =
message=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > <A =3D<BR>> =
> >href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:47=
0d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=
> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I can't believe this one but =
..<BR>> =20
> =3D<BR>> > =
>. .=20
=3D3D<BR>> > > =20
></FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 =
slot<BR>> =20
> =3D<BR>> > =
>Magma=20
=3D3D<BR>> > > =20
>for=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
> =20
years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>start up and keep running. =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >This =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >began=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> tonight as</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >Mec =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >setup. The=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>would power on for a split =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >second =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >then=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>power supply. It might still =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >=3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >work with all=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > 5 cards and 1=20
Mec</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>if I =
baby=20
it.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > > =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Once it's off I =
have to=20
=3D<BR>> > >unplug, =
wait,<BR>> =20
> > =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >replug and=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > start =
again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >one Mec =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >then. I=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> thought there was </FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>a auto shut off mechanism =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >built in to<BR>> =
> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> > > =20
>the=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
> =20
Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>about that in the =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > =20
>manual.</FONT></DIV><BR >> =
> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>? ? =
?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Why=20
Me???</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> > <DIV><FONT=20
size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight=20
=3D<BR>> > >spam,<BR>> =20
> > =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >and=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > =3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D<BR>> > >>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re'>h=
ttp://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re</A>=3D<B=
R>> =20
> >fer=3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >.html</A>=20
=
</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE ></BODY></HTML> <BR=
>> =20
> > ><BR>> =
> =20
> ><BR>> > =
><BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > =20
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
Transitional//EN"><BR>> > =20
><HTML><HEAD><BR>> > =20
><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> =
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML =
6.00.2800.1400"=20
name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> > =20
><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> > =
></HEAD><BR>> > ><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi=20
Mike,</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think Windows =
will boot=20
fine, at =3D<BR>> > >least it used=20
to=3D20<BR>> > =20
>with</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>all 5 cards in =
it. =20
Now it chokes =3D<BR>> > >as soon =
as=20
I=3D20<BR>> > >attach=20
a</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>scsi cable to =
any of my=20
three new =3D<BR>> > =20
>working=3D20<BR>> > =20
>mecs.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It didn't a =
couple of days=20
=3D<BR>> > =20
>ago.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm digging deeper into the way the =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >cards are=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
>seated now.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>I=20
will check the Magma with one card =3D<BR>> =
> =20
>and one=3D20<BR>> > >interface =
at a=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>time. =
Maybe the=20
scherzo drivers =3D<BR>> > >are=20
screwy=3D20<BR>> > >from removing=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and reinserting =
the=20
cards? =3D<BR>> > =20
></FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This is amazing how one little thing=20
=3D<BR>> > >can ruin =
a=3D20<BR>> =20
> >good=20
business.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Well maybe it's =
10 little=20
things but. .<BR>> > =3D<BR>> =
> >.=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
></FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
> =20
><DIV> </DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =20
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>> > =20
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px;=20
=3D<BR>> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
2px solid;=20
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> > =
> =20
<DIV>"Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message=20
<A=3D20<BR>> > > =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=3D=
20'>news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV&=
gt;<BR>Hi=3D20</A><BR>> =20
> > Tom,<BR><BR>I have the =
same=20
old Magma, and it doesn't require any=3D20<BR>> =20
> > drivers.<BR><BR>I'd =
try=20
booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then<BR>> =20
> =3D<BR>> > =20
>one,=3D20<BR>> > > then =
two,=20
etc.,<BR>until you can find the problem. If it is the=20
=3D<BR>> > =
>bridge=3D20<BR>> =20
> > chips in the Magma,<BR>I =
believe=20
Windows would fail even if no cards =3D<BR>> =
> =20
>were in=3D20<BR>> > > =
it. You=20
may want to<BR>test it with another PCI card in it just=20
=3D<BR>> > >in =
case=3D20<BR>> =20
> > I'm wrong about that. =20
It<BR>sounds to me like a bad card that is =3D<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > =
> =20
throwing the PARIS driver for a shit<BR>when it tries to =
innitialize=20
=3D<BR>> > >any =
442s=3D20<BR>> =20
> > that are attached (that happens=20
on<BR>start up).<BR><BR>Good=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =20
luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR& gt; =
<BR><BR>"Tom=20
Bruhl" <<A=3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t; =20
> > =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Most Excellent Fix =
It=20
Guys,<BR>>New=3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt =3D<BR>> =
> >supply.<BR>>Powers =
up=3D20<BR>> =20
> > nicely in the Magma. It will =
run=20
with 5 EDS cards<BR>>then =3D<BR>> =
> =20
>shut off=3D20<BR>> > > =
just before=20
XP boots and screws the whole shootin' match.<BR>>I'll=20
=3D<BR>> > =
>double=3D20<BR>> =20
> > check seating of the cards but =
what else=20
would have made=3D20<BR>> > > =
=3D3D<BR>>even<BR>> ;the new supply to croak? =
Fans are=20
cooling =3D<BR>> > =
>well=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =
too.<BR>><BR>>I'm= 20
thinking I have a broken EDS then ? =3D<BR>> =20
> >Maybe 3 . .=3D20<BR>> =20
> > . ? The=20
Magma?<BR>>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? =20
=3D<BR>> > >If =
so=3D20<BR>> =20
> > I'd need older ones. The=20
Magma<BR>>tech was almost laughing =3D<BR>> =20
> >at how=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> old mine is. It has a slot on the far=20
=3D3D<BR>>left<BR>> ;for =3D<BR>> =20
> >the Magma=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as =
you=20
=3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D<BR>>face=3D20<BR>> =
> > =20
the front.<BR>>I think mine's the opposite judging by my =
master=20
=3D<BR>> > >card=3D20<BR>> =
> > =20
placement.<BR>><BR>&g t;Everything is broken=20
it=3D20<BR>> > > =20
seems.<BR>>Tom<BR>> ;<BR>> "Tom =
Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> > > =
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
wrote =3D<BR>> > >in =
message=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> I =
can't=20
believe this =3D<BR>> > >one but=20
.=3D20<BR>> > > .=20
.=3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I've had 5 cards in a 13 =
slot Magma=20
for =3D<BR>> > ><BR>> =20
> > years. Now it=20
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=3D<BR>> > =20
>size=3D3D3D2>Most=3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
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=3D3D<BR>>Guys,</FONT>&am p;lt;/DIV><BR>><DIV&g t=
;<FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
> > face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>New problem.=20
Just installed a new =3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D<BR>>Antec=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> 550=3D3D20<BR>>watt =3D<BR>> =
> =20
=
>supply.</FONT></DIV>& ;lt;BR>><DIV><FONT=3D2=
0<BR>> =20
> > face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Powers up=20
nicely in the Magma. It =3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D<BR>>will=3D20<BR>> =
> > =20
run=3D3D20<BR>>with 5 EDS=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> =
cards</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>> > =
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2>then shut off just =
before XP=20
boots =3D<BR>> > =20
>and<BR>=3D3D<BR>> screws=3D20 <BR>> =20
> > the=3D3D20<BR>>whole=20
shootin'=3D20<BR>> > > =20
match.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>> > =
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2>I'll double check =
seating of=20
the cards<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but =3D<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > =
> =20
what=3D3D20<BR>>else would have made=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =20
even</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>> > =
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2>the new supply to =
croak?=20
Fans are =3D<BR>> > =20
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;=20
> > =20
too.</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;><DIV><FONT=20
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>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
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</DIV><BR>><DIV&am p;gt;<FONT =3D<BR>> =20
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2>I'm thinking I =
have a broken=20
EDS then =3D3D<BR>>? =3D<BR>> =
> =20
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> =20
> . . . ? The=20
Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>> > ><BR>> =20
> > face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are=20
there Magma =3D3D<BR>>drivers? =3D<BR>> =
> =20
>If=3D20<BR>> > > =20
so=3D3D20<BR>>I'd need older ones. The=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =20
Magma</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>> > =
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2>tech was almost =
laughing at=20
how old =3D3D<BR>>mine is.=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> =3D3D20<BR>>It has a slot on the =
far=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =20
left</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>> > =
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2>for the Magma =
card. The=20
newer =3D3D<BR>>one's =3D<BR>> =
> =20
>slot=3D3D20<BR>>#s go=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
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front.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>> > =
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2>I think mine's the =
opposite=20
judging by<BR>=3D3D<BR>>my=3D20<BR >> =20
> > =20
master=3D3D20<BR>>card=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> =20
placement.</FONT></DIV><B R>><DIV><FONT =
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>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
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> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
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t;<FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
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> =20
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=3D3D<BR>></FONT>< /DIV><BR>> =20
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=3D20<BR>> > > =
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face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >13 slot=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> Magma =3D3D<BR>>for=3D3D20<BR>& amp;gt; =
years. Now=20
it=3D20<BR>> > > =20
won't</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;> =
<DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>> > =
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2>start up and keep =
running.=20
This =3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D<BR>>began=3D3D20<B R>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
> > tonight=20
as</FONT></DIV><BR> ;> =20
<DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec=20
=3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D<BR>>setup.=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> The=3D3D20<BR>> =20
Magma</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;> =3D20<BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>would power on for a =3D<BR>> =
> =20
>split second=3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D<BR>>then=3D3D20<BR> > stop. =
I'm=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =20
thinking</FONT></DIV><BR& amp;gt;> =20
<DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>power supply. It might still =
=3D<BR>> =20
> >=3D3D<BR>>work =
with=3D20<BR>> =20
> > all=3D3D20<BR>> 5 =
cards and 1=20
=3D<BR>> > =20
>Mec</FONT></DIV>< BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
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face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>if I baby=3D20<BR>> > =
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it.</FONT></DIV><BR&g t;> <DIV><FONT =
=3D<BR>> > =
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
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</DIV><BR>> =3D<BR>> =
> =20
><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Once it's off I have to=20
unplug,=3D20<BR>> > > =20
wait,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>replug =
and=3D3D20<BR>> =20
start=3D20<BR>> > > =20
again.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;> =
<DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>> > =
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Maybe it will =
start up with=20
one Mec =3D3D<BR>>then.=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> I=3D3D20<BR>> thought there was =
=3D<BR>> =20
> ></FONT></DIV><BR& amp;gt;>=20
=3D20<BR>> > > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>a auto shut off =3D<BR>> =20
> >mechanism built=3D20<BR>> =20
> > in=20
to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D2 0<BR>> Magma. =
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face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>about that in =
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