Home » The PARIS Forums » PARIS: Main » To add fuel to the fire
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78373 is a reply to message #78363] |
Sun, 14 January 2007 19:48   |
Nappy
Messages: 198
Registered: September 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
|
DJ,
I know a web cam does'nt do audio. I'm a bit dissapointed in you.
I'm not trying to make the point that the Mac is a better computer,I'm just
pointing out some things that the Macbook has that the Dell does'nt.
Really my response is to Thad being the PC opposite of James. You seem to
forget all his talk of Debian which has nothing to do with audio. I could
care less
which laptop you use as long as you are happy with it. Sure you can build
a PC
Core duo 2 box for cheaper than a Mac,but you can't run OSX on it. If your
mad
that Steve Jobs wont let you run OSX on a PC thats another story. All I'm
saying is If you put all
that hatred for Steve Jobs a side you should see that owning a Mac is not
a bad idea
seeing you have all the software available to you and switching would be
painless
since you would not have to buy all new software. You could run Wavelab if
you want as well as LOgic on the same box,what is so wrong about that?
You see,Thad has still not address the desktop Mac which have 2 Duel core
Xeon
prosessors for $2499,try building one of them for cheaper,ask Chris Ludwig
if he can build one with the same specs for cheaper. I like Macs because
like it
or not they have software that I use that only runs on a Mac and I can run
any
software that runs on XP on it as well and from were i sit thats makes good
sense to me. Now if they come out with a PC version of Aperture and Logic
then I'll get
a PC. Sure I'd like to run OSX on a PC,but hating Steve Jobs is not going
to stop me
from using the software I want. Remember the old saying,"Find the software
you want to use and pick the platform that supports it" The Mac supports
both
platforms.
respect
Nappy
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>How many tracks can that webcam record and play back?
>
>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:45aa864c$1@linux...
>>
>> And a web cam built in it.
>>
>> "Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>The Macbooks have core duo 2 cpu's,try again.
>>>
>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us& cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bndwe4j&s=bsd
>>>>
>>>>Core Duo laptop, 15.4" screen, DVD burner, 1 GB memory. $750
>>>>
>>>>There are better deals on occasion but this is the current sweet spot.
>> I
>>>>set up two of them last week.
>>>>
>>>>TCB
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hey Thad! I was checking Dell's prices, I didn't see any Core 2 Duo
lap
>>>>tops
>>>>>for $750.00. I could be wrong, but it looks like they start at $1299.
>>>
>>>>I
>>>>>wonder what they would cost similarly configured?
>>>>>
>>>>>I think Apple typically makes more margin per unit, well that's what
>>>>>I've
>>>>>read. As a dealer margins were always tight. In the past Apple
>>>>>manufactured
>>>>>proprietary hardware, and they just didn't sell the number of units
that
>>>>>PC manufactures did to have low prices. With Intel, it's a whole new
>> ball
>>>>>game for Apple. I would think Dell still buys 10 times as much stuff
>> from
>>>>>Intel as Apple does. Dell probably gets better pricing.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have seen Dell do a thousand dollar rebate on their lap tops. When
>> that
>>>>>happens, Apple will not be able to compete.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/notebooks ?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
>>>>>
>>>>>James
>>>>>
>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's right, Jamie, I finally noticed that Apple is using Intel
>>>>>>processors.
>>>>>>You know me, never up on much in that wild and crazy world of tech.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My point, which I stated fairly clearly, was that I have often heard
>> the
>>>>>>argument made that the reason Apple hardware is pricier than an
>>>>>>equivalent
>>>>>>Dell or home build is because they use superior components in their
>>>>>>machines.
>>>>>>That's nonsense. Having seen their 'low end' laptop which runs about
>> $1300
>>>>>>I can say for sure that aside from the slot loading optical drive and
>>>a
>>>>>nice
>>>>>>black case it's a slight downgrade from a $750 Dell. If the optical
>>>>>>drive
>>>>>>and case are worth 45% more to you, than that's fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BTW - Debian Etch is relatively easy get working on these. If I had
>>>>>>more
>>>>>>money than sense I'd get one as a Debian machine because it's black.
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Where's the fuel? You mean you finally noticed that Apple has gone
to
>>>>
>>>>>>>Intel for hardware designs, and onboard graphics on the low end
>>>>>>>models?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This is pretty old news. When Apple announced the Intel switch more
>> than
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>a year ago, this was one of the reasons given. The Macbook is their
>> low
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>end laptop, and probably the biggest cost reduction was using the
>>>>>>>onboard graphics instead of something snazzier. The Macbook Pro has
>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>snazzier stuff, but it's still off the shelf with OSX drivers. Apple
>>>
>>>>>>>doesn't and hasn't ever AFAIK developed their own graphics chipsets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well heck, they don't develop their own CPUs either, although I
>>>>>>>imagine
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>they give input to those companies. Up until last year Apple chose
>>>>>>>different CPU models than were blessed by Microsoft, and tried to
gain
>>>>>
>>>>>>>an advantage from the differences. Now they are using the same CPUs
>> that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Microsoft likes, so any advantage is going to be from design and
>>>>>>>software.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I like Apple's desktop case design. Really easy to get into and change
>>>>>
>>>>>>>memory, drives, etc.; quiet and cool running airflow. The laptop
>>>>>>>designs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>have varied at accessibility, sometimes compromising for thinness.
For
>>>>>
>>>>>>>example my PowerBook is easy to access for memory upgrades but not
for
>>>>>
>>>>>>>HD upgrades. That may have changed in the new ones.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mac laptop sales are rising, other manufacturers are copying their
>>>>>>>form
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>factor, but if you ever buy one (other than overpaying for a Macbook
>>>for
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>someone else, and then complaining about it) I'll be amazed. Sorry
you
>>>>>
>>>>>>>had to subject yourself to working on a Mac today, but even sorrier
>> you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>had to infect it with XP. ;^)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>TCB wrote:
>>>>>>>> So, I had to set up XP on a Mac Book today. The child of an
>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>person
>>>>>>>> on my office had one and, surprise, most of the games a 12 year
old
>>>>likes
>>>>>>>> to play don't have Mac versions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, once and for all I can put to rest the notion that Apple
>>>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>> somehow 'super special' and thus justifies the higher price. Intel
>>>chipset,
>>>>>>>> Intel integrated graphics, Atheros wireless, Marvell NIC, generic
>> firewire
>>>>>>>> controller. The CD/DVD burner was the slot loading kind, so that's
>>>slightly
>>>>>>>> cool (unless you want to pop out the CD before the machine boots
>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>>> nice to have a physical switch), but that's about the only thing
>>>>>>>> unusual
>>>>>>>> about the hardware. If you were to show me the XP device list for
>> a
>>>>Mac
>>>>>>Book
>>>>>>>> and the same list from a Dell 640m (two of which I've also set up
>> recently)
>>>>>>>> I would have given a _slight_ preference to the Dell, mostly because
>>>>>it
>>>>>>uses
>>>>>>>> an Intel wireless chipset that does b/g/n and bluetooth on one chip,
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>> I've had very good luck with those wireless cards. A 640m also has
>>>a
>>>>>larger
>>>>>>>> screed and costs around $750.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In better news, I wound up on modular synth dreamland for about
five
>>>>>hours
>>>>>>>> last night, wiring up my John Bowen Pro Wave into modular patches
>> and
>>>>>>using
>>>>>>>> it to feed vocoders and all of the things that make computer
>>>>>>>> recording
>>>>>>worth
>>>>>>>> it. Then I forgot to save the presets, but hey, that's the way it
>> goes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78374 is a reply to message #78373] |
Sun, 14 January 2007 19:32 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
|
Senior Member |
|
|
On 1/14/07 8:48 PM, in article 45aaeb8d$1@linux, "Nappy"
<mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
> You see,Thad has still not address the desktop Mac which have 2 Duel core
> Xeon
> prosessors for $2499,try building one of them for cheaper,ask Chris Ludwig
>
> if he can build one with the same specs for cheaper. I like Macs because
Hey Nappy -
From Newegg.com,
dual 2.66 Xeon
Gigabyte server motherboard,
1G Corsair DDR2 Ram (2x512),
250G Western Digital SATA 3G drive
NVidia GeForce 7300 256M card
Sony DVD/CD combo drive (+/- DVDR), 16x
Antec power supply
Coolermaster case
Windows XP Pro SP2 with free upgrade to Vista:
$2356 shipped.
Not sure what motherboard or drives Apple uses - I think our last Mac
used Samsung. Memory and DVD/CD drive - also not sure. So I may have spent
more than necessary on this example. Apple also probably gets a bulk rate
on cpus so that can save a little over paying $700 each as an individual
buyer.
fwiw....
Regards,
Dedric
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78375 is a reply to message #78356] |
Sun, 14 January 2007 20:53 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Ha.. You wish.. I'd be the first to order that "new" version of Logic PC..BUT!!,
Only if it's a Complete Re-write that has :
-Sample accurate editing..
-Super fast audio editing..
-Killer Mixing graphics.
-tempo conforming incoming audio(Acid. apple loops)
-Hide the enviorments
-Hide any look of the old tired Logic Audio look..
-Put back VST (still faster than audio units)
:)
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Ah, we were talking about lap tops!
>
>I think your going to see some great desk tops come from Apple in the next
>few months, I wouldn't count them out just yet!
>
>Since you are talking about audio, I will speculate here a bit and say,
I
>think you may see PC software developers write more programs for the Intel
>Macs. Maybe even your favorite programs! Adobe made announcements at MacWorld,
>I wonder what NAMM, Music Messa, and NAB will bring. I wonder if there
will
>be a Logic version for PC??? LaMont will still hate it no matter what;
>) LOL!
>
>James
>
>
>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>On 1/14/07 1:38 PM, in article 45aa86a2$1@linux, "Nappy"
>><mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Oh ya,did I mention,it runs both OSX and XP
>>>
>>>
>>Which since they are the same hardware, begs the question as to why any
>core
>>2 duo computer can't run OSX. Oh, that's right, Steve J. won't let us.
>:-)
>>
>>So...what's the more flexible, cost effective, scalable hardware? ;-)
>>This is all in good fun, btw. Just for sake of conversation more than
>>anything....
>>
>>Serious Q: Can you buy a Mac core 2 duo that is compatible with a quad
core
>>cpu? I am doubting it since there are only a few motherboards that support
>>both currently, and I believe the current core 2 duo Macs were designed
>>before quads really hit the market, but I am curious if anyone knows.
>>
>>The kicker on this one for me is that I can build a core 2 duo PC today
>for
>>less than, or about the same cost of the same core 2 duo cpu Mac but with
>>more PCI/PCIe slots, more Sata ports, higher buss speed, more RAM, dual
>DVI,
>>wireless bluetooth, *and* be able to upgrade to a quad core cpu by simply
>>dropping one in whenever I want. (That's what I'll be putting together
>in
>>the next month - it's already spec'd out and ready to order). That's a
>>significant consideration for me (and yes, I've been through Apple and
>>Dell's custom configurators, as well as a few others - I still come out
>>better doing my own from Newegg).
>>
>>That's a much better investment for me at least. The OS is secondary for
>me
>>to a large degree - just a means to an end that depends more on hardware
>>than the OS. Now if I could buy OSX standalone, I could have an AppleggPC
>>running WindowsOSX. I would also mix logos and make a fruit salad. ;-)
>>I had considered a Mac this time around, or maybe later this year, but
so
>>far the above advantage is still outweighing the convenience of a plug
it
>in
>>and turn it on solution.
>>
>>I think that's where a lot of audio PC users are (not average users, but
>>power/tech savvy users). It isn't so much about "us against them" as
>>different requirements and decision making approaches - some want to turn
>on
>>the switch and not think about it; others want to get a fast system and
>>hotrod it even more, and the time is paid for in the gains made in workflow
>>later.
>>
>>My personal decision making process is simply one of numbers and my own
>>application - if it makes more sense (power, speed, cost, upgradeability,
>>software support without crossgrade costs), then a Mac is fine. So far,
>>that cost has been noticeably higher than staying with a PC. I don't care
>>which anyone chooses, as long as you see both sides equally.
>>
>>My main reason for entering this thread is to balance what James said about
>>PC users - that the conversations turn into bashing Macs, but I see it
both
>>ways. Mac users are also pretty adamant about Macs being an overall better
>>choice. My other reason...okay, it's kind of fun in a twisted sort of
way.
>>;-) It's fun to talk geek/tech with other pro audio folks from time to
>>time. Nice diversion from actually getting work done with these beasts.
>:-)
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dedric
>>
>
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78376 is a reply to message #78374] |
Sun, 14 January 2007 20:57 |
Nappy
Messages: 198
Registered: September 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Dedric,
If you add all the software that comes with it and the elegant design plus
the fact that you can run both OSX and XP and you don't have to build it
makes
up for the 90 plus dollars you save. I'm just saying it makes sense for a
Pro to buy.
You can do what you want,but you can't deny that its a good value. I'm not
a die
hard Mac person,in fact I'm going to build a PC to run PARIS on,it makes
more sense.
PC motherboards still offer PCI slots,and buying an old Mac that boots to
OS9 is a step backwards. All I'm saying is don't let your feelings about
Steve Jobs stop you from making a move to a Mac if it gives you more options.
Lets face it,Thad and James represent two extremes of opinions,I'm talking
about options as far as
software goes,yes hardware wise PC's have more options,but as was already
stated
they both have the same or some of the same hardware so I give the Mac the
advantage to Mac for software options. Thats My point.
Is saving 90 plus dollars worth it?
respect
Nappy
PS please respond
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>On 1/14/07 8:48 PM, in article 45aaeb8d$1@linux, "Nappy"
><mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>> You see,Thad has still not address the desktop Mac which have 2 Duel core
>> Xeon
>> prosessors for $2499,try building one of them for cheaper,ask Chris Ludwig
>>
>> if he can build one with the same specs for cheaper. I like Macs because
>
>
>Hey Nappy -
>
>From Newegg.com,
>dual 2.66 Xeon
>Gigabyte server motherboard,
>1G Corsair DDR2 Ram (2x512),
>250G Western Digital SATA 3G drive
>NVidia GeForce 7300 256M card
>Sony DVD/CD combo drive (+/- DVDR), 16x
>Antec power supply
>Coolermaster case
>Windows XP Pro SP2 with free upgrade to Vista:
>
>$2356 shipped.
>
>Not sure what motherboard or drives Apple uses - I think our last Mac
>used Samsung. Memory and DVD/CD drive - also not sure. So I may have spent
>more than necessary on this example. Apple also probably gets a bulk rate
>on cpus so that can save a little over paying $700 each as an individual
>buyer.
>
>fwiw....
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78378 is a reply to message #78373] |
Sun, 14 January 2007 20:17 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Nappy. I forgot to put a smiley after my post. I was definitely kiddin'
around. Despite my misgivings about Mr. Jobs, I'm seeing some upside to Macs
these days. Old habits die hard though and IMHO, Jobs and Gates are cut from
the same cloth. I guess that's what irks me the most about Mac....the
"pseudo high road" mentality. they are both boxes full of componentry with
OS'es that appeal to certain folks, as you said.
Regards,
;o)
"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:45aaeb8d$1@linux...
>
> DJ,
> I know a web cam does'nt do audio. I'm a bit dissapointed in you.
> I'm not trying to make the point that the Mac is a better computer,I'm
> just
> pointing out some things that the Macbook has that the Dell does'nt.
> Really my response is to Thad being the PC opposite of James. You seem to
> forget all his talk of Debian which has nothing to do with audio. I could
> care less
> which laptop you use as long as you are happy with it. Sure you can build
> a PC
> Core duo 2 box for cheaper than a Mac,but you can't run OSX on it. If your
> mad
> that Steve Jobs wont let you run OSX on a PC thats another story. All I'm
> saying is If you put all
> that hatred for Steve Jobs a side you should see that owning a Mac is not
> a bad idea
> seeing you have all the software available to you and switching would be
> painless
> since you would not have to buy all new software. You could run Wavelab if
> you want as well as LOgic on the same box,what is so wrong about that?
>
> You see,Thad has still not address the desktop Mac which have 2 Duel core
> Xeon
> prosessors for $2499,try building one of them for cheaper,ask Chris Ludwig
>
> if he can build one with the same specs for cheaper. I like Macs because
> like it
> or not they have software that I use that only runs on a Mac and I can run
> any
> software that runs on XP on it as well and from were i sit thats makes
> good
> sense to me. Now if they come out with a PC version of Aperture and Logic
> then I'll get
> a PC. Sure I'd like to run OSX on a PC,but hating Steve Jobs is not going
> to stop me
> from using the software I want. Remember the old saying,"Find the software
> you want to use and pick the platform that supports it" The Mac supports
> both
> platforms.
>
> respect
> Nappy
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>How many tracks can that webcam record and play back?
>>
>>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:45aa864c$1@linux...
>>>
>>> And a web cam built in it.
>>>
>>> "Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>The Macbooks have core duo 2 cpu's,try again.
>>>>
>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us& cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bndwe4j&s=bsd
>>>>>
>>>>>Core Duo laptop, 15.4" screen, DVD burner, 1 GB memory. $750
>>>>>
>>>>>There are better deals on occasion but this is the current sweet spot.
>>> I
>>>>>set up two of them last week.
>>>>>
>>>>>TCB
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey Thad! I was checking Dell's prices, I didn't see any Core 2 Duo
> lap
>>>>>tops
>>>>>>for $750.00. I could be wrong, but it looks like they start at $1299.
>>>>
>>>>>I
>>>>>>wonder what they would cost similarly configured?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think Apple typically makes more margin per unit, well that's what
>
>>>>>>I've
>>>>>>read. As a dealer margins were always tight. In the past Apple
>>>>>>manufactured
>>>>>>proprietary hardware, and they just didn't sell the number of units
> that
>>>>>>PC manufactures did to have low prices. With Intel, it's a whole new
>>> ball
>>>>>>game for Apple. I would think Dell still buys 10 times as much stuff
>>> from
>>>>>>Intel as Apple does. Dell probably gets better pricing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have seen Dell do a thousand dollar rebate on their lap tops. When
>>> that
>>>>>>happens, Apple will not be able to compete.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/notebooks ?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That's right, Jamie, I finally noticed that Apple is using Intel
>>>>>>>processors.
>>>>>>>You know me, never up on much in that wild and crazy world of tech.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My point, which I stated fairly clearly, was that I have often heard
>>> the
>>>>>>>argument made that the reason Apple hardware is pricier than an
>>>>>>>equivalent
>>>>>>>Dell or home build is because they use superior components in their
>
>>>>>>>machines.
>>>>>>>That's nonsense. Having seen their 'low end' laptop which runs about
>>> $1300
>>>>>>>I can say for sure that aside from the slot loading optical drive and
>>>>a
>>>>>>nice
>>>>>>>black case it's a slight downgrade from a $750 Dell. If the optical
>
>>>>>>>drive
>>>>>>>and case are worth 45% more to you, than that's fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BTW - Debian Etch is relatively easy get working on these. If I had
>
>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>money than sense I'd get one as a Debian machine because it's black.
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Where's the fuel? You mean you finally noticed that Apple has gone
> to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Intel for hardware designs, and onboard graphics on the low end
>>>>>>>>models?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This is pretty old news. When Apple announced the Intel switch more
>>> than
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>a year ago, this was one of the reasons given. The Macbook is their
>>> low
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>end laptop, and probably the biggest cost reduction was using the
>>>>>>>>onboard graphics instead of something snazzier. The Macbook Pro has
>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>snazzier stuff, but it's still off the shelf with OSX drivers. Apple
>>>>
>>>>>>>>doesn't and hasn't ever AFAIK developed their own graphics chipsets.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Well heck, they don't develop their own CPUs either, although I
>>>>>>>>imagine
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>they give input to those companies. Up until last year Apple chose
>>>>>>>>different CPU models than were blessed by Microsoft, and tried to
> gain
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>an advantage from the differences. Now they are using the same CPUs
>>> that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Microsoft likes, so any advantage is going to be from design and
>>>>>>>>software.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I like Apple's desktop case design. Really easy to get into and
>>>>>>>>change
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>memory, drives, etc.; quiet and cool running airflow. The laptop
>>>>>>>>designs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>have varied at accessibility, sometimes compromising for thinness.
> For
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>example my PowerBook is easy to access for memory upgrades but not
> for
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>HD upgrades. That may have changed in the new ones.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mac laptop sales are rising, other manufacturers are copying their
>
>>>>>>>>form
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>factor, but if you ever buy one (other than overpaying for a Macbook
>>>>for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>someone else, and then complaining about it) I'll be amazed. Sorry
> you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>had to subject yourself to working on a Mac today, but even sorrier
>>> you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>had to infect it with XP. ;^)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>TCB wrote:
>>>>>>>>> So, I had to set up XP on a Mac Book today. The child of an
>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>person
>>>>>>>>> on my office had one and, surprise, most of the games a 12 year
> old
>>>>>likes
>>>>>>>>> to play don't have Mac versions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, once and for all I can put to rest the notion that Apple
>>>>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>> somehow 'super special' and thus justifies the higher price. Intel
>>>>chipset,
>>>>>>>>> Intel integrated graphics, Atheros wireless, Marvell NIC, generic
>>> firewire
>>>>>>>>> controller. The CD/DVD burner was the slot loading kind, so that's
>>>>slightly
>>>>>>>>> cool (unless you want to pop out the CD before the machine boots
>
>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>>>> nice to have a physical switch), but that's about the only thing
>
>>>>>>>>> unusual
>>>>>>>>> about the hardware. If you were to show me the XP device list for
>>> a
>>>>>Mac
>>>>>>>Book
>>>>>>>>> and the same list from a Dell 640m (two of which I've also set up
>>> recently)
>>>>>>>>> I would have given a _slight_ preference to the Dell, mostly
>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>uses
>>>>>>>>> an Intel wireless chipset that does b/g/n and bluetooth on one
>>>>>>>>> chip,
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>> I've had very good luck with those wireless cards. A 640m also has
>>>>a
>>>>>>larger
>>>>>>>>> screed and costs around $750.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In better news, I wound up on modular synth dreamland for about
> five
>>>>>>hours
>>>>>>>>> last night, wiring up my John Bowen Pro Wave into modular patches
>>> and
>>>>>>>using
>>>>>>>>> it to feed vocoders and all of the things that make computer
>>>>>>>>> recording
>>>>>>>worth
>>>>>>>>> it. Then I forgot to save the presets, but hey, that's the way it
>>> goes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78379 is a reply to message #78369] |
Sun, 14 January 2007 20:20 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
|
Senior Member |
|
|
hmmmm...........can you just stop them from running in the background and
then reenable them like the Administrative Tools options in windows?
Thanks,
Dej
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45aacfdd$1@linux...
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>So how do I get rid of 90% of the bloat that is advertized as being
>>loaded
>
>>on the Mac? Is that as simple as everything else it does?
>>
>>;o)
>
> System stuff you can strip out but I would do some reading first.
> Language
> libraries would be first on my list. Programs, just drag them to the
> trash
> and flush the toilet. It's easy!
>
> James
>
>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:45aacb64$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Heh. True, and good thing too. Don't forget to keep track of your costs
>>>
>>>>in all this, so next time we discuss which platform is actually
>>>>"cheaper" we remember to take into account all these systems you keep
>>>>building. :^)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>
>>> Soon it will be Vista surgery time, ouch! ; )
>>>
>>> http://www.apple.com/getamac/
>>>
>>> ...and it goes on, and on!
>>>
>>>>
>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>> I'm building a new one right now with an AMD 64 4800 x 2 CPU that's
>
>>>>> going
>>> to
>>>>> have 3 x EDS cards in it pretty soon. I've had some "issues" with it
>
>>>>> though.
>>>
>>>>> Strange stuff, but I'm getting there. this is one of the coolest
>>>>> mobo's
>>> I've
>>>>> ever seen as far as being able to assign IRQ's to individual PCI
>>>>> slots,
>>> but,
>>>>> of course, like Paris, it's a discontinued model and rarer'n hen's
>>>>> teeth.
>>> Of
>>>>> course, being a Mac guy instead of a normal person, you don't get to
>
>>>>> rejoice
>>>
>>>>> in the ability to assign IRQs.
>>>>>
>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:45aa8362@linux...
>>>>>> Don't get a Mac Deej. If we don't hear at least one story every month
>>>
>>>>>> about an amazing cobbled together Deej DAW contraption, we will die.
>>> ;^)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>>> I really thought hard about jumping into this, especially since I
>
>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>
>>>>>>> accused of hating Macs, but it's worse than arguing politics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :O)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:C1CFB853.6939%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>>>>>>> On 1/14/07 9:53 AM, in article 45aa5d12@linux, "Jamie K"
>>>>>>>> <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're right Dedric, they're all computers. They have always used
>>>>>>>>> similar components and people argued about the differences. Now
> that
>>>>>>>>> they use pretty much the same components, there's still room to
>
>>>>>>>>> discuss
>>>>>>>>> what differences remain.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The difference between OSX and, say, Vista, is more than the look
>>> of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> GUI and logos. While there are strong similarities, different
>>>>>>>>> philosophies and implementations create different user
>>>>>>>>> experiences.
>>> How
>>>>>>>>> much of that difference matters to you will influence your desire
>>> to
>>>>>>>>> waste time on these threads. :^)
>>>>>>>> Of course - I was just giving you guys a hard time because you
>>>>>>>> seemed
>>> to
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> arguing the same point from different perspectives. It's always
> best
>>> to
>>>>>>>> evaluate tech gear for what it is rather than how it is marketed.
>>>>>>>>> But if you just want to get down the hill and don't see much
>>>>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>>>> in how you get there, a snowboard is as good as skis. No real
>>>>>>>>> difference...
>>>>>>>> Skis are better :-) ...and it's important to enjoy the whole
>>>>>>>> mountain,
>>>
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> just the groomed runs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW - iPhone is very cool. I don't have a new PDA, or cutting edge
>>>
>>>>>>>> phone,
>>>>>>>> so maybe there are other options too, but the touch screen and
>>>>>>>> orientation
>>>>>>>> detection rock. Too expensive for now though. If they come down,
>>> I
>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>> consider getting one if it isn't too bulky for a phone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/13/07 6:48 PM, in article 45a988e7@linux, "Jamie K"
>>>>>>>>>> <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> TCB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's right, Jamie, I finally noticed that Apple is using
>>>>>>>>>>>> Intel
>>>>>>>>>>>> processors.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You know me, never up on much in that wild and crazy world of
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> tech.
>>>>>>>>>>> Guess not, for Apple anyway. This is old news. Processors,
>>>>>>>>>>> onboard
>>>>>>>>>>> graphics chipsets on the low end, and, heck, doesn't Intel do
> the
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> entire
>>>>>>>>>>> motherboard now? So now, what were you complaining about?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pardon me dropping in uninvited.... but...umm... what exactly are
>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> guys
>>>>>>>>>> arguing about? ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> An Intel cpu is an Intel cpu. Don't know what motherboards the
> new
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Macs
>>>>>>>>>> use, but undoubtedly they are also available on Newegg or
>>>>>>>>>> TigerDirect
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>> PC - the same goes for every other part, other than the case and
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> OS.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Motorola boards were made for Apple (probably exclusively)
>>>>>>>>>> because,
>>>>>>>>>> well, no one else used Motorola cpus for a PC (mostly for other
>>>>>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>>>>>> devices). I learned assembly language on 808x and 68k processors
>>> -
>>>>>>>>>> Intel
>>>>>>>>>> and Motorola. Both do much the same thing, but with a different
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> framework -
>>>>>>>>>> 68k's were a little better suited for graphics, but not so much
> for
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> math -
>>>>>>>>>> vice versa for the Intels, though the differences were more in
> the
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> structure
>>>>>>>>>> and form of the instruction set, rather than actual functions -
>
>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> main difference the later versions inherited. The problem with
>
>>>>>>>>>> Moto
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> is they
>>>>>>>>>> couldn't get their clock speeds down with their design - it was
> a
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> limited
>>>>>>>>>> design there. I think it is smart of Apple to finally ditch them
>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> go for
>>>>>>>>>> Intel (or AMD as was considered for a while I believe).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Motherboard manufacturers just make boards to run whatever cpu
> is
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> selling
>>>>>>>>>> enough to warrant making a board for it, so now you could
>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> drop most
>>>>>>>>>> any core 2 duo compatible mobo in a Mac and it should run, unless
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> OS is
>>>>>>>>>> setup to lock out all but spec'd boards, or tolerances with other
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> parts are
>>>>>>>>>> too low.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> With comps today, when it comes down to it, the only real
>>>>>>>>>> difference
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> is what
>>>>>>>>>> the GUI and the logos look like.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The rest is no more of a variation on a theme than you get going
>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> Borders to Barnes & Noble.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78381 is a reply to message #78378] |
Sun, 14 January 2007 21:14 |
Nappy
Messages: 198
Registered: September 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
|
I agree,they are both from the same cloth. I thought you were kiddin but was'nt
sure. Thanks for clearing that up. I use to be afraid of PC's but since owning
one
I've come to the conclusion that they are just computers. I like OSX a bit
better than
XP mainly because I know the keyboard shotcuts better. If I could get OSX
to run
on a PC with to much trouble I would do it in a Heartbeat,if fact when I
build my
PARIS PC box I'll try and get it to boot into OSX. Let me know how your new
build
goes for that PARIS box I'll be needing help when I build mine.
respect
Nappy
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Nappy. I forgot to put a smiley after my post. I was definitely kiddin'
>around. Despite my misgivings about Mr. Jobs, I'm seeing some upside to
Macs
>these days. Old habits die hard though and IMHO, Jobs and Gates are cut
from
>the same cloth. I guess that's what irks me the most about Mac....the
>"pseudo high road" mentality. they are both boxes full of componentry with
>OS'es that appeal to certain folks, as you said.
>
>Regards,
>;o)
>
>
>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:45aaeb8d$1@linux...
>>
>> DJ,
>> I know a web cam does'nt do audio. I'm a bit dissapointed in you.
>> I'm not trying to make the point that the Mac is a better computer,I'm
>> just
>> pointing out some things that the Macbook has that the Dell does'nt.
>> Really my response is to Thad being the PC opposite of James. You seem
to
>> forget all his talk of Debian which has nothing to do with audio. I could
>> care less
>> which laptop you use as long as you are happy with it. Sure you can build
>> a PC
>> Core duo 2 box for cheaper than a Mac,but you can't run OSX on it. If
your
>> mad
>> that Steve Jobs wont let you run OSX on a PC thats another story. All
I'm
>> saying is If you put all
>> that hatred for Steve Jobs a side you should see that owning a Mac is
not
>> a bad idea
>> seeing you have all the software available to you and switching would
be
>> painless
>> since you would not have to buy all new software. You could run Wavelab
if
>> you want as well as LOgic on the same box,what is so wrong about that?
>>
>> You see,Thad has still not address the desktop Mac which have 2 Duel core
>> Xeon
>> prosessors for $2499,try building one of them for cheaper,ask Chris Ludwig
>>
>> if he can build one with the same specs for cheaper. I like Macs because
>> like it
>> or not they have software that I use that only runs on a Mac and I can
run
>> any
>> software that runs on XP on it as well and from were i sit thats makes
>> good
>> sense to me. Now if they come out with a PC version of Aperture and Logic
>> then I'll get
>> a PC. Sure I'd like to run OSX on a PC,but hating Steve Jobs is not going
>> to stop me
>> from using the software I want. Remember the old saying,"Find the software
>> you want to use and pick the platform that supports it" The Mac supports
>> both
>> platforms.
>>
>> respect
>> Nappy
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>How many tracks can that webcam record and play back?
>>>
>>>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:45aa864c$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> And a web cam built in it.
>>>>
>>>> "Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>The Macbooks have core duo 2 cpu's,try again.
>>>>>
>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us& cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bndwe4j&s=bsd
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Core Duo laptop, 15.4" screen, DVD burner, 1 GB memory. $750
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There are better deals on occasion but this is the current sweet spot.
>>>> I
>>>>>>set up two of them last week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hey Thad! I was checking Dell's prices, I didn't see any Core 2 Duo
>> lap
>>>>>>tops
>>>>>>>for $750.00. I could be wrong, but it looks like they start at $1299.
>>>>>
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>wonder what they would cost similarly configured?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think Apple typically makes more margin per unit, well that's what
>>
>>>>>>>I've
>>>>>>>read. As a dealer margins were always tight. In the past Apple
>>>>>>>manufactured
>>>>>>>proprietary hardware, and they just didn't sell the number of units
>> that
>>>>>>>PC manufactures did to have low prices. With Intel, it's a whole
new
>>>> ball
>>>>>>>game for Apple. I would think Dell still buys 10 times as much stuff
>>>> from
>>>>>>>Intel as Apple does. Dell probably gets better pricing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have seen Dell do a thousand dollar rebate on their lap tops. When
>>>> that
>>>>>>>happens, Apple will not be able to compete.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/notebooks ?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That's right, Jamie, I finally noticed that Apple is using Intel
>>>>>>>>processors.
>>>>>>>>You know me, never up on much in that wild and crazy world of tech.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My point, which I stated fairly clearly, was that I have often heard
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>argument made that the reason Apple hardware is pricier than an
>>>>>>>>equivalent
>>>>>>>>Dell or home build is because they use superior components in their
>>
>>>>>>>>machines.
>>>>>>>>That's nonsense. Having seen their 'low end' laptop which runs about
>>>> $1300
>>>>>>>>I can say for sure that aside from the slot loading optical drive
and
>>>>>a
>>>>>>>nice
>>>>>>>>black case it's a slight downgrade from a $750 Dell. If the optical
>>
>>>>>>>>drive
>>>>>>>>and case are worth 45% more to you, than that's fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>BTW - Debian Etch is relatively easy get working on these. If I had
>>
>>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>>money than sense I'd get one as a Debian machine because it's black.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Where's the fuel? You mean you finally noticed that Apple has gone
>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Intel for hardware designs, and onboard graphics on the low end
>>>>>>>>>models?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>This is pretty old news. When Apple announced the Intel switch more
>>>> than
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>a year ago, this was one of the reasons given. The Macbook is their
>>>> low
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>end laptop, and probably the biggest cost reduction was using the
>>>>>>>>>onboard graphics instead of something snazzier. The Macbook Pro
has
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>snazzier stuff, but it's still off the shelf with OSX drivers. Apple
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>doesn't and hasn't ever AFAIK developed their own graphics chipsets.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Well heck, they don't develop their own CPUs either, although I
>>>>>>>>>imagine
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>they give input to those companies. Up until last year Apple chose
>>>>>>>>>different CPU models than were blessed by Microsoft, and tried to
>> gain
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>an advantage from the differences. Now they are using the same CPUs
>>>> that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Microsoft likes, so any advantage is going to be from design and
>>>>>>>>>software.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I like Apple's desktop case design. Really easy to get into and
>>>>>>>>>change
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>memory, drives, etc.; quiet and cool running airflow. The laptop
>>>>>>>>>designs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>have varied at accessibility, sometimes compromising for thinness.
>> For
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>example my PowerBook is easy to access for memory upgrades but not
>> for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>HD upgrades. That may have changed in the new ones.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mac laptop sales are rising, other manufacturers are copying their
>>
>>>>>>>>>form
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>factor, but if you ever buy one (other than overpaying for a Macbook
>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>someone else, and then complaining about it) I'll be amazed. Sorry
>> you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>had to subject yourself to working on a Mac today, but even sorrier
>>>> you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>had to infect it with XP. ;^)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>TCB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> So, I had to set up XP on a Mac Book today. The child of an
>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>person
>>>>>>>>>> on my office had one and, surprise, most of the games a 12 year
>> old
>>>>>>likes
>>>>>>>>>> to play don't have Mac versions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So, once and for all I can put to rest the notion that Apple
>>>>>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>> somehow 'super special' and thus justifies the higher price. Intel
>>>>>chipset,
>>>>>>>>>> Intel integrated graphics, Atheros wireless, Marvell NIC, generic
>>>> firewire
>>>>>>>>>> controller. The CD/DVD burner was the slot loading kind, so that's
>>>>>slightly
>>>>>>>>>> cool (unless you want to pop out the CD before the machine boots
>>
>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>>>>> nice to have a physical switch), but that's about the only thing
>>
>>>>>>>>>> unusual
>>>>>>>>>> about the hardware. If you were to show me the XP device list
for
>>>> a
>>>>>>Mac
>>>>>>>>Book
>>>>>>>>>> and the same list from a Dell 640m (two of which I've also set
up
>>>> recently)
>>>>>>>>>> I would have given a _slight_ preference to the Dell, mostly
>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>uses
>>>>>>>>>> an Intel wireless chipset that does b/g/n and bluetooth on one
>>>>>>>>>> chip,
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>> I've had very good luck with those wireless cards. A 640m also
has
>>>>>a
>>>>>>>larger
>>>>>>>>>> screed and costs around $750.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In better news, I wound up on modular synth dreamland for about
>> five
>>>>>>>hours
>>>>>>>>>> last night, wiring up my John Bowen Pro Wave into modular patches
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>using
>>>>>>>>>> it to feed vocoders and all of the things that make computer
>>>>>>>>>> recording
>>>>>>>>worth
>>>>>>>>>> it. Then I forgot to save the presets, but hey, that's the way
it
>>>> goes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78382 is a reply to message #78381] |
Sun, 14 January 2007 20:38 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Let me know how your new
> build
> goes for that PARIS box I'll be needing help when I build mine.
I'll kepp you guys posted. I decided to use the HD that I was going to be
the system drive in my Pariws rig today so I need to get another HD. After
that I'
ll finish the build. I'm going to order a Seagate or two for this DAW, I
think, and they don't sell them here in the snow covered wilderness.
I'll be glad to help when you start your build.
;o)
Deej
"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:45aaffc2$1@linux...
>
> I agree,they are both from the same cloth. I thought you were kiddin but
> was'nt
> sure. Thanks for clearing that up. I use to be afraid of PC's but since
> owning
> one
> I've come to the conclusion that they are just computers. I like OSX a bit
> better than
> XP mainly because I know the keyboard shotcuts better. If I could get OSX
> to run
> on a PC with to much trouble I would do it in a Heartbeat,if fact when I
> build my
> PARIS PC box I'll try and get it to boot into OSX. Let me know how your
> new
> build
> goes for that PARIS box I'll be needing help when I build mine.
>
> respect
> Nappy
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>Nappy. I forgot to put a smiley after my post. I was definitely kiddin'
>
>>around. Despite my misgivings about Mr. Jobs, I'm seeing some upside to
> Macs
>>these days. Old habits die hard though and IMHO, Jobs and Gates are cut
> from
>>the same cloth. I guess that's what irks me the most about Mac....the
>>"pseudo high road" mentality. they are both boxes full of componentry with
>
>>OS'es that appeal to certain folks, as you said.
>>
>>Regards,
>>;o)
>>
>>
>>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:45aaeb8d$1@linux...
>>>
>>> DJ,
>>> I know a web cam does'nt do audio. I'm a bit dissapointed in you.
>>> I'm not trying to make the point that the Mac is a better computer,I'm
>
>>> just
>>> pointing out some things that the Macbook has that the Dell does'nt.
>>> Really my response is to Thad being the PC opposite of James. You seem
> to
>>> forget all his talk of Debian which has nothing to do with audio. I
>>> could
>>> care less
>>> which laptop you use as long as you are happy with it. Sure you can
>>> build
>>> a PC
>>> Core duo 2 box for cheaper than a Mac,but you can't run OSX on it. If
> your
>>> mad
>>> that Steve Jobs wont let you run OSX on a PC thats another story. All
> I'm
>>> saying is If you put all
>>> that hatred for Steve Jobs a side you should see that owning a Mac is
> not
>>> a bad idea
>>> seeing you have all the software available to you and switching would
> be
>>> painless
>>> since you would not have to buy all new software. You could run Wavelab
> if
>>> you want as well as LOgic on the same box,what is so wrong about that?
>>>
>>> You see,Thad has still not address the desktop Mac which have 2 Duel
>>> core
>>> Xeon
>>> prosessors for $2499,try building one of them for cheaper,ask Chris
>>> Ludwig
>>>
>>> if he can build one with the same specs for cheaper. I like Macs because
>>> like it
>>> or not they have software that I use that only runs on a Mac and I can
> run
>>> any
>>> software that runs on XP on it as well and from were i sit thats makes
>
>>> good
>>> sense to me. Now if they come out with a PC version of Aperture and
>>> Logic
>>> then I'll get
>>> a PC. Sure I'd like to run OSX on a PC,but hating Steve Jobs is not
>>> going
>>> to stop me
>>> from using the software I want. Remember the old saying,"Find the
>>> software
>>> you want to use and pick the platform that supports it" The Mac supports
>>> both
>>> platforms.
>>>
>>> respect
>>> Nappy
>>>
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>How many tracks can that webcam record and play back?
>>>>
>>>>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:45aa864c$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> And a web cam built in it.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Macbooks have core duo 2 cpu's,try again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us& cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bndwe4j&s=bsd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Core Duo laptop, 15.4" screen, DVD burner, 1 GB memory. $750
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There are better deals on occasion but this is the current sweet
>>>>>>>spot.
>>>>> I
>>>>>>>set up two of them last week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hey Thad! I was checking Dell's prices, I didn't see any Core 2 Duo
>>> lap
>>>>>>>tops
>>>>>>>>for $750.00. I could be wrong, but it looks like they start at
>>>>>>>>$1299.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>wonder what they would cost similarly configured?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I think Apple typically makes more margin per unit, well that's what
>>>
>>>>>>>>I've
>>>>>>>>read. As a dealer margins were always tight. In the past Apple
>>>>>>>>manufactured
>>>>>>>>proprietary hardware, and they just didn't sell the number of units
>>> that
>>>>>>>>PC manufactures did to have low prices. With Intel, it's a whole
> new
>>>>> ball
>>>>>>>>game for Apple. I would think Dell still buys 10 times as much
>>>>>>>>stuff
>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>Intel as Apple does. Dell probably gets better pricing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have seen Dell do a thousand dollar rebate on their lap tops.
>>>>>>>>When
>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>happens, Apple will not be able to compete.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/notebooks ?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>That's right, Jamie, I finally noticed that Apple is using Intel
>>>>>>>>>processors.
>>>>>>>>>You know me, never up on much in that wild and crazy world of tech.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>My point, which I stated fairly clearly, was that I have often
>>>>>>>>>heard
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>argument made that the reason Apple hardware is pricier than an
>>>>>>>>>equivalent
>>>>>>>>>Dell or home build is because they use superior components in their
>>>
>>>>>>>>>machines.
>>>>>>>>>That's nonsense. Having seen their 'low end' laptop which runs
>>>>>>>>>about
>>>>> $1300
>>>>>>>>>I can say for sure that aside from the slot loading optical drive
> and
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>nice
>>>>>>>>>black case it's a slight downgrade from a $750 Dell. If the optical
>>>
>>>>>>>>>drive
>>>>>>>>>and case are worth 45% more to you, than that's fine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>BTW - Debian Etch is relatively easy get working on these. If I had
>>>
>>>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>>>money than sense I'd get one as a Debian machine because it's
>>>>>>>>>black.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Where's the fuel? You mean you finally noticed that Apple has gone
>>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Intel for hardware designs, and onboard graphics on the low end
>>>>>>>>>>models?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>This is pretty old news. When Apple announced the Intel switch
>>>>>>>>>>more
>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>a year ago, this was one of the reasons given. The Macbook is
>>>>>>>>>>their
>>>>> low
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>end laptop, and probably the biggest cost reduction was using the
>>>>>>>>>>onboard graphics instead of something snazzier. The Macbook Pro
> has
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>snazzier stuff, but it's still off the shelf with OSX drivers.
>>>>>>>>>>Apple
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>doesn't and hasn't ever AFAIK developed their own graphics
>>>>>>>>>>chipsets.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Well heck, they don't develop their own CPUs either, although I
>>>>>>>>>>imagine
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>they give input to those companies. Up until last year Apple chose
>>>>>>>>>>different CPU models than were blessed by Microsoft, and tried to
>>> gain
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>an advantage from the differences. Now they are using the same
>>>>>>>>>>CPUs
>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Microsoft likes, so any advantage is going to be from design and
>>>>>>>>>>software.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I like Apple's desktop case design. Really easy to get into and
>
>>>>>>>>>>change
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>memory, drives, etc.; quiet and cool running airflow. The laptop
>>>>>>>>>>designs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>have varied at accessibility, sometimes compromising for thinness.
>>> For
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>example my PowerBook is easy to access for memory upgrades but not
>>> for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>HD upgrades. That may have changed in the new ones.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Mac laptop sales are rising, other manufacturers are copying their
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>form
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>factor, but if you ever buy one (other than overpaying for a
>>>>>>>>>>Macbook
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>someone else, and then complaining about it) I'll be amazed. Sorry
>>> you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>had to subject yourself to working on a Mac today, but even
>>>>>>>>>>sorrier
>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>had to infect it with XP. ;^)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>TCB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> So, I had to set up XP on a Mac Book today. The child of an
>>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>>person
>>>>>>>>>>> on my office had one and, surprise, most of the games a 12 year
>>> old
>>>>>>>likes
>>>>>>>>>>> to play don't have Mac versions.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So, once and for all I can put to rest the notion that Apple
>>>>>>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>> somehow 'super special' and thus justifies the higher price.
>>>>>>>>>>> Intel
>>>>>>chipset,
>>>>>>>>>>> Intel integrated graphics, Atheros wireless, Marvell NIC,
>>>>>>>>>>> generic
>>>>> firewire
>>>>>>>>>>> controller. The CD/DVD burner was the slot loading kind, so
>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>slightly
>>>>>>>>>>> cool (unless you want to pop out the CD before the machine boots
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>>>>>> nice to have a physical switch), but that's about the only thing
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> unusual
>>>>>>>>>>> about the hardware. If you were to show me the XP device list
> for
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>Mac
>>>>>>>>>Book
>>>>>>>>>>> and the same list from a Dell 640m (two of which I've also set
> up
>>>>> recently)
>>>>>>>>>>> I would have given a _slight_ preference to the Dell, mostly
>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>uses
>>>>>>>>>>> an Intel wireless chipset that does b/g/n and bluetooth on one
>
>>>>>>>>>>> chip,
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>> I've had very good luck with those wireless cards. A 640m also
> has
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>larger
>>>>>>>>>>> screed and costs around $750.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In better news, I wound up on modular synth dreamland for about
>>> five
>>>>>>>>hours
>>>>>>>>>>> last night, wiring up my John Bowen Pro Wave into modular
>>>>>>>>>>> patches
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>using
>>>>>>>>>>> it to feed vocoders and all of the things that make computer
>>>>>>>>>>> recording
>>>>>>>>>worth
>>>>>>>>>>> it. Then I forgot to save the presets, but hey, that's the way
> it
>>>>> goes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78385 is a reply to message #78376] |
Sun, 14 January 2007 21:14 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Hey Nappy - first I'm just posting as a friendly comparison of perspectives,
not a one is "better" than the other debate, just to be sure you don't
misunderstand my intent, or think that I'm trying to degrade the value of a
Mac - great systems and nice design on a lot of levels. :-)
The only software I saw in the Apple store config was optional - iLife, etc,
and not included in the $2499. (Bluetooth, etc. also additional). Doesn't
really leave much, if anything different from what comes with Windows XP.
Sure, iPhoto, iMovie are nicer than Windows, but I don't use those at all as
they are really just home user apps anyway.
Software advantage depends on what you need it for - for Logic, there's no
other choice. If it's for home use, or even just buying off the shelf, then
preference really has everything to do with it.
I agree on PCI slots, hardware, etc. that's my big reason for staying with
PCs, that and they are just easier to use as sample library farms (and
multiple PCs also certainly work fine with a Mac/Logic as the main
sequencer/host).
Actually for the $90 saved, I would also be getting higher quality RAM (at
least based on what past models have used), possibly a better hard drive,
more PCI slots, and more options on the motherboard out of the box, but
yeah, it's only really relevant for guys like me that try to get the most
out of it for a specific purpose. And yes it is in a pro use where the
extra 5-10% can make a difference - even spending an extra $90 or so I could
get 2G which is a minimum for what I do - to add an extra 1G it's an extra
$299 (assuming the buyer would want to go DIY to save $200).
Of course that doesn't make the Mac any less of a pro solution - it's a
great solution.
It's preference - that's all I'm saying. There aren't stark contrasts that
often seem to be purported in these threads. For most people it's shades of
silicon and grey; but for some users, those shades are much more than a $90
difference or a half day spent building a system.
Regards,
Dedric
On 1/14/07 9:57 PM, in article 45aafba9$1@linux, "Nappy"
<mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Dedric,
> If you add all the software that comes with it and the elegant design plus
> the fact that you can run both OSX and XP and you don't have to build it
> makes
> up for the 90 plus dollars you save. I'm just saying it makes sense for a
> Pro to buy.
> You can do what you want,but you can't deny that its a good value. I'm not
> a die
> hard Mac person,in fact I'm going to build a PC to run PARIS on,it makes
> more sense.
> PC motherboards still offer PCI slots,and buying an old Mac that boots to
> OS9 is a step backwards. All I'm saying is don't let your feelings about
> Steve Jobs stop you from making a move to a Mac if it gives you more options.
> Lets face it,Thad and James represent two extremes of opinions,I'm talking
> about options as far as
> software goes,yes hardware wise PC's have more options,but as was already
> stated
> they both have the same or some of the same hardware so I give the Mac the
> advantage to Mac for software options. Thats My point.
>
> Is saving 90 plus dollars worth it?
>
> respect
> Nappy
> PS please respond
>
> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>> On 1/14/07 8:48 PM, in article 45aaeb8d$1@linux, "Nappy"
>> <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>> You see,Thad has still not address the desktop Mac which have 2 Duel core
>>> Xeon
>>> prosessors for $2499,try building one of them for cheaper,ask Chris Ludwig
>>>
>>> if he can build one with the same specs for cheaper. I like Macs because
>>
>>
>> Hey Nappy -
>>
>> From Newegg.com,
>> dual 2.66 Xeon
>> Gigabyte server motherboard,
>> 1G Corsair DDR2 Ram (2x512),
>> 250G Western Digital SATA 3G drive
>> NVidia GeForce 7300 256M card
>> Sony DVD/CD combo drive (+/- DVDR), 16x
>> Antec power supply
>> Coolermaster case
>> Windows XP Pro SP2 with free upgrade to Vista:
>>
>> $2356 shipped.
>>
>> Not sure what motherboard or drives Apple uses - I think our last Mac
>> used Samsung. Memory and DVD/CD drive - also not sure. So I may have spent
>> more than necessary on this example. Apple also probably gets a bulk rate
>> on cpus so that can save a little over paying $700 each as an individual
>> buyer.
>>
>> fwiw....
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dedric
>>
>
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78389 is a reply to message #78385] |
Sun, 14 January 2007 23:59 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
|
Senior Member |
|
|
From Apples web site. Included software with Mac Pro
• Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger
• The world's most advanced operating system including the latest versions
of these system applications:
• • Address Book
• • DVD Player
• • iCal
• • iChat AV
• • Mail
• • Preview
• • Safari
• • Xcode
• iLife '06 suite for creating photo projects, making movies, designing
DVDs, building websites, and composing music
• • iWork '06 30-day trial
• • Microsoft Office 2004 for Mac 30-day Test Drive
• • Comic Life
• • OmniOutliner
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Hey Nappy - first I'm just posting as a friendly comparison of perspectives,
>not a one is "better" than the other debate, just to be sure you don't
>misunderstand my intent, or think that I'm trying to degrade the value of
a
>Mac - great systems and nice design on a lot of levels. :-)
>
>The only software I saw in the Apple store config was optional - iLife,
etc,
>and not included in the $2499. (Bluetooth, etc. also additional). Doesn't
>really leave much, if anything different from what comes with Windows XP.
>Sure, iPhoto, iMovie are nicer than Windows, but I don't use those at all
as
>they are really just home user apps anyway.
>
>Software advantage depends on what you need it for - for Logic, there's
no
>other choice. If it's for home use, or even just buying off the shelf,
then
>preference really has everything to do with it.
>
>I agree on PCI slots, hardware, etc. that's my big reason for staying with
>PCs, that and they are just easier to use as sample library farms (and
>multiple PCs also certainly work fine with a Mac/Logic as the main
>sequencer/host).
>
>Actually for the $90 saved, I would also be getting higher quality RAM (at
>least based on what past models have used), possibly a better hard drive,
>more PCI slots, and more options on the motherboard out of the box, but
>yeah, it's only really relevant for guys like me that try to get the most
>out of it for a specific purpose. And yes it is in a pro use where the
>extra 5-10% can make a difference - even spending an extra $90 or so I could
>get 2G which is a minimum for what I do - to add an extra 1G it's an extra
>$299 (assuming the buyer would want to go DIY to save $200).
>
>Of course that doesn't make the Mac any less of a pro solution - it's a
>great solution.
>
>It's preference - that's all I'm saying. There aren't stark contrasts that
>often seem to be purported in these threads. For most people it's shades
of
>silicon and grey; but for some users, those shades are much more than a
$90
>difference or a half day spent building a system.
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
>On 1/14/07 9:57 PM, in article 45aafba9$1@linux, "Nappy"
><mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dedric,
>> If you add all the software that comes with it and the elegant design
plus
>> the fact that you can run both OSX and XP and you don't have to build
it
>> makes
>> up for the 90 plus dollars you save. I'm just saying it makes sense for
a
>> Pro to buy.
>> You can do what you want,but you can't deny that its a good value. I'm
not
>> a die
>> hard Mac person,in fact I'm going to build a PC to run PARIS on,it makes
>> more sense.
>> PC motherboards still offer PCI slots,and buying an old Mac that boots
to
>> OS9 is a step backwards. All I'm saying is don't let your feelings about
>> Steve Jobs stop you from making a move to a Mac if it gives you more options.
>> Lets face it,Thad and James represent two extremes of opinions,I'm talking
>> about options as far as
>> software goes,yes hardware wise PC's have more options,but as was already
>> stated
>> they both have the same or some of the same hardware so I give the Mac
the
>> advantage to Mac for software options. Thats My point.
>>
>> Is saving 90 plus dollars worth it?
>>
>> respect
>> Nappy
>> PS please respond
>>
>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>> On 1/14/07 8:48 PM, in article 45aaeb8d$1@linux, "Nappy"
>>> <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> You see,Thad has still not address the desktop Mac which have 2 Duel
core
>>>> Xeon
>>>> prosessors for $2499,try building one of them for cheaper,ask Chris
Ludwig
>>>>
>>>> if he can build one with the same specs for cheaper. I like Macs because
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Nappy -
>>>
>>> From Newegg.com,
>>> dual 2.66 Xeon
>>> Gigabyte server motherboard,
>>> 1G Corsair DDR2 Ram (2x512),
>>> 250G Western Digital SATA 3G drive
>>> NVidia GeForce 7300 256M card
>>> Sony DVD/CD combo drive (+/- DVDR), 16x
>>> Antec power supply
>>> Coolermaster case
>>> Windows XP Pro SP2 with free upgrade to Vista:
>>>
>>> $2356 shipped.
>>>
>>> Not sure what motherboard or drives Apple uses - I think our last Mac
>>> used Samsung. Memory and DVD/CD drive - also not sure. So I may have
spent
>>> more than necessary on this example. Apple also probably gets a bulk
rate
>>> on cpus so that can save a little over paying $700 each as an individual
>>> buyer.
>>>
>>> fwiw....
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>
>
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78391 is a reply to message #78379] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 02:21 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
|
Senior Member |
|
|
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>hmmmm...........can you just stop them from running in the background and
>then reenable them like the Administrative Tools options in windows?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dej
The only software that runs in the back ground is DashBoard, and you can
disable it, or completely remove it. But I don't think it's much of a hit
on the system.
I'm still not sure why you think Mac OSX is bloated? I'm not sure why you
think the first thing you would have to do is get under the hood and start
ripping things out??? To me it would be like you getting a new 600 hp. Dodge
Viper, and the first thing you want to do is rip out the AC system and passenger
seat to make it faster, when all your going to do is drive it on the street.
I would use a Mac out of the box for 6 months and worry about optimizing
it later. However, if you want to hot rod a Mac, this is one of the sites.
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/
Some of what you call bloat, like GarageBand you might find useful for song
writing. Until you use it for a while, you won't know. Your thinking that
you need a dedicated optimize audio work station, and that's Ok, but with
a Mac you really can use it for everything without it being a problem. I
guess it's a different line of thinking.
Honestly, I think it could be a bit of a hard transition for a hard core
PC user. I think at first, nothing will be where you want it to be. I think
it would be like being dropped off in a huge city you never been in. A place
where they drive on the opocit side of the street and nobody speaks your
language. It is to some extent like a whole different world. You'd have
the basics down in an hour or two. After a year of honest effort, you will
either hate it, or be totally hook. Either way, you'll truly know if a Mac
is for you.
I'm not telling you to get a Mac, I think if you do, you will miss all your
PC tinkering. Then again, I know you'll find away.
James
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:45aacfdd$1@linux...
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>So how do I get rid of 90% of the bloat that is advertized as being
>>>loaded
>>
>>>on the Mac? Is that as simple as everything else it does?
>>>
>>>;o)
>>
>> System stuff you can strip out but I would do some reading first.
>> Language
>> libraries would be first on my list. Programs, just drag them to the
>> trash
>> and flush the toilet. It's easy!
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:45aacb64$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Heh. True, and good thing too. Don't forget to keep track of your costs
>>>>
>>>>>in all this, so next time we discuss which platform is actually
>>>>>"cheaper" we remember to take into account all these systems you keep
>>>>>building. :^)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Soon it will be Vista surgery time, ouch! ; )
>>>>
>>>> http://www.apple.com/getamac/
>>>>
>>>> ...and it goes on, and on!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>> I'm building a new one right now with an AMD 64 4800 x 2 CPU that's
>>
>>>>>> going
>>>> to
>>>>>> have 3 x EDS cards in it pretty soon. I've had some "issues" with
it
>>
>>>>>> though.
>>>>
>>>>>> Strange stuff, but I'm getting there. this is one of the coolest
>>>>>> mobo's
>>>> I've
>>>>>> ever seen as far as being able to assign IRQ's to individual PCI
>>>>>> slots,
>>>> but,
>>>>>> of course, like Paris, it's a discontinued model and rarer'n hen's
>>>>>> teeth.
>>>> Of
>>>>>> course, being a Mac guy instead of a normal person, you don't get
to
>>
>>>>>> rejoice
>>>>
>>>>>> in the ability to assign IRQs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:45aa8362@linux...
>>>>>>> Don't get a Mac Deej. If we don't hear at least one story every month
>>>>
>>>>>>> about an amazing cobbled together Deej DAW contraption, we will die.
>>>> ;^)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>> I really thought hard about jumping into this, especially since
I
>>
>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>
>>>>>>>> accused of hating Macs, but it's worse than arguing politics.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :O)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:C1CFB853.6939%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>>>>>>>> On 1/14/07 9:53 AM, in article 45aa5d12@linux, "Jamie K"
>>>>>>>>> <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You're right Dedric, they're all computers. They have always used
>>>>>>>>>> similar components and people argued about the differences. Now
>> that
>>>>>>>>>> they use pretty much the same components, there's still room to
>>
>>>>>>>>>> discuss
>>>>>>>>>> what differences remain.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The difference between OSX and, say, Vista, is more than the look
>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> GUI and logos. While there are strong similarities, different
>>>>>>>>>> philosophies and implementations create different user
>>>>>>>>>> experiences.
>>>> How
>>>>>>>>>> much of that difference matters to you will influence your desire
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> waste time on these threads. :^)
>>>>>>>>> Of course - I was just giving you guys a hard time because you
>>>>>>>>> seemed
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> arguing the same point from different perspectives. It's always
>> best
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> evaluate tech gear for what it is rather than how it is marketed.
>>>>>>>>>> But if you just want to get down the hill and don't see much
>>>>>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>>>>> in how you get there, a snowboard is as good as skis. No real
>>>>>>>>>> difference...
>>>>>>>>> Skis are better :-) ...and it's important to enjoy the whole
>>>>>>>>> mountain,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> just the groomed runs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BTW - iPhone is very cool. I don't have a new PDA, or cutting
edge
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> phone,
>>>>>>>>> so maybe there are other options too, but the touch screen and
>>>>>>>>> orientation
>>>>>>>>> detection rock. Too expensive for now though. If they come down,
>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>> consider getting one if it isn't too bulky for a phone.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/13/07 6:48 PM, in article 45a988e7@linux, "Jamie K"
>>>>>>>>>>> <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> TCB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's right, Jamie, I finally noticed that Apple is using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Intel
>>>>>>>>>>>>> processors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know me, never up on much in that wild and crazy world
of
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tech.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Guess not, for Apple anyway. This is old news. Processors,
>>>>>>>>>>>> onboard
>>>>>>>>>>>> graphics chipsets on the low end, and, heck, doesn't Intel do
>> the
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> entire
>>>>>>>>>>>> motherboard now? So now, what were you complaining about?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pardon me dropping in uninvited.... but...umm... what exactly
are
>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> guys
>>>>>>>>>>> arguing about? ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> An Intel cpu is an Intel cpu. Don't know what motherboards the
>> new
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Macs
>>>>>>>>>>> use, but undoubtedly they are also available on Newegg or
>>>>>>>>>>> TigerDirect
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>> PC - the same goes for every other part, other than the case
and
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> OS.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Motorola boards were made for Apple (probably exclusively)
>>>>>>>>>>> because,
>>>>>>>>>>> well, no one else used Motorola cpus for a PC (mostly for other
>>>>>>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>>>>>>> devices). I learned assembly language on 808x and 68k processors
>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>> Intel
>>>>>>>>>>> and Motorola. Both do much the same thing, but with a different
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> framework -
>>>>>>>>>>> 68k's were a little better suited for graphics, but not so much
>> for
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> math -
>>>>>>>>>>> vice versa for the Intels, though the differences were more in
>> the
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> structure
>>>>>>>>>>> and form of the instruction set, rather than actual functions
-
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> main difference the later versions inherited. The problem with
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Moto
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> is they
>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't get their clock speeds down with their design - it was
>> a
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> limited
>>>>>>>>>>> design there. I think it is smart of Apple to finally ditch
them
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> go for
>>>>>>>>>>> Intel (or AMD as was considered for a while I believe).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Motherboard manufacturers just make boards to run whatever cpu
>> is
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> selling
>>>>>>>>>>> enough to warrant making a board for it, so now you could
>>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> drop most
>>>>>>>>>>> any core 2 duo compatible mobo in a Mac and it should run, unless
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> OS is
>>>>>>>>>>> setup to lock out all but spec'd boards, or tolerances with other
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> parts are
>>>>>>>>>>> too low.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> With comps today, when it comes down to it, the only real
>>>>>>>>>>> difference
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> is what
>>>>>>>>>>> the GUI and the logos look like.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The rest is no more of a variation on a theme than you get going
>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> Borders to Barnes & Noble.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78392 is a reply to message #78368] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 02:37 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Well, here's more.
http://aroundcny.com/technofile/texts/mac031004.html
http://guides.macrumors.com/Uninstalling_Applications_in_Mac _OS_X
uninstaller software:
http://mac.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Uninstaller.sh tml
http://www.allume.com/mac/springcleaning/updates.html
http://www.appzapper.com/
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>So how do I get rid of 90% of the bloat that is advertized as being loaded
>on the Mac? Is that as simple as everything else it does?
>
>;o)
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:45aacb64$1@linux...
>>
>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Heh. True, and good thing too. Don't forget to keep track of your costs
>>
>>>in all this, so next time we discuss which platform is actually
>>>"cheaper" we remember to take into account all these systems you keep
>>>building. :^)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>
>> Soon it will be Vista surgery time, ouch! ; )
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/getamac/
>>
>> ...and it goes on, and on!
>>
>>>
>>>DJ wrote:
>>>> I'm building a new one right now with an AMD 64 4800 x 2 CPU that's
>>>> going
>> to
>>>> have 3 x EDS cards in it pretty soon. I've had some "issues" with it
>>>> though.
>>
>>>> Strange stuff, but I'm getting there. this is one of the coolest mobo's
>> I've
>>>> ever seen as far as being able to assign IRQ's to individual PCI slots,
>> but,
>>>> of course, like Paris, it's a discontinued model and rarer'n hen's
>>>> teeth.
>> Of
>>>> course, being a Mac guy instead of a normal person, you don't get to
>>>> rejoice
>>
>>>> in the ability to assign IRQs.
>>>>
>>>> ;o)
>>>>
>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45aa8362@linux...
>>>>> Don't get a Mac Deej. If we don't hear at least one story every month
>>
>>>>> about an amazing cobbled together Deej DAW contraption, we will die.
>> ;^)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>> I really thought hard about jumping into this, especially since I
>>>>>> wasn't
>>
>>>>>> accused of hating Macs, but it's worse than arguing politics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :O)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:C1CFB853.6939%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>>>>>> On 1/14/07 9:53 AM, in article 45aa5d12@linux, "Jamie K"
>>>>>>> <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're right Dedric, they're all computers. They have always used
>>>>>>>> similar components and people argued about the differences. Now
that
>>>>>>>> they use pretty much the same components, there's still room to
>>>>>>>> discuss
>>>>>>>> what differences remain.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The difference between OSX and, say, Vista, is more than the look
>> of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> GUI and logos. While there are strong similarities, different
>>>>>>>> philosophies and implementations create different user experiences.
>> How
>>>>>>>> much of that difference matters to you will influence your desire
>> to
>>>>>>>> waste time on these threads. :^)
>>>>>>> Of course - I was just giving you guys a hard time because you seemed
>> to
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> arguing the same point from different perspectives. It's always
best
>> to
>>>>>>> evaluate tech gear for what it is rather than how it is marketed.
>>>>>>>> But if you just want to get down the hill and don't see much
>>>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>>> in how you get there, a snowboard is as good as skis. No real
>>>>>>>> difference...
>>>>>>> Skis are better :-) ...and it's important to enjoy the whole
>>>>>>> mountain,
>>
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> just the groomed runs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW - iPhone is very cool. I don't have a new PDA, or cutting edge
>>
>>>>>>> phone,
>>>>>>> so maybe there are other options too, but the touch screen and
>>>>>>> orientation
>>>>>>> detection rock. Too expensive for now though. If they come down,
>> I
>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>> consider getting one if it isn't too bulky for a phone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 1/13/07 6:48 PM, in article 45a988e7@linux, "Jamie K"
>>>>>>>>> <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> TCB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> That's right, Jamie, I finally noticed that Apple is using Intel
>>>>>>>>>>> processors.
>>>>>>>>>>> You know me, never up on much in that wild and crazy world of
>>>>>>>>>>> tech.
>>>>>>>>>> Guess not, for Apple anyway. This is old news. Processors, onboard
>>>>>>>>>> graphics chipsets on the low end, and, heck, doesn't Intel do
the
>>
>>>>>>>>>> entire
>>>>>>>>>> motherboard now? So now, what were you complaining about?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pardon me dropping in uninvited.... but...umm... what exactly are
>> you
>>>>>>>>> guys
>>>>>>>>> arguing about? ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> An Intel cpu is an Intel cpu. Don't know what motherboards the
new
>>
>>>>>>>>> Macs
>>>>>>>>> use, but undoubtedly they are also available on Newegg or
>>>>>>>>> TigerDirect
>>
>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>> PC - the same goes for every other part, other than the case and
>> the
>>>>>>>>> OS.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Motorola boards were made for Apple (probably exclusively)
>>>>>>>>> because,
>>>>>>>>> well, no one else used Motorola cpus for a PC (mostly for other
>>>>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>>>>> devices). I learned assembly language on 808x and 68k processors
>> -
>>>>>>>>> Intel
>>>>>>>>> and Motorola. Both do much the same thing, but with a different
>>
>>>>>>>>> framework -
>>>>>>>>> 68k's were a little better suited for graphics, but not so much
for
>>
>>>>>>>>> math -
>>>>>>>>> vice versa for the Intels, though the differences were more in
the
>>
>>>>>>>>> structure
>>>>>>>>> and form of the instruction set, rather than actual functions -
>>>>>>>>> that's
>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> main difference the later versions inherited. The problem with
>>>>>>>>> Moto
>>
>>>>>>>>> is they
>>>>>>>>> couldn't get their clock speeds down with their design - it was
a
>>
>>>>>>>>> limited
>>>>>>>>> design there. I think it is smart of Apple to finally ditch them
>> and
>>>>>>>>> go for
>>>>>>>>> Intel (or AMD as was considered for a while I believe).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Motherboard manufacturers just make boards to run whatever cpu
is
>>
>>>>>>>>> selling
>>>>>>>>> enough to warrant making a board for it, so now you could probably
>>
>>>>>>>>> drop most
>>>>>>>>> any core 2 duo compatible mobo in a Mac and it should run, unless
>> the
>>>>>>>>> OS is
>>>>>>>>> setup to lock out all but spec'd boards, or tolerances with other
>>
>>>>>>>>> parts are
>>>>>>>>> too low.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With comps today, when it comes down to it, the only real
>>>>>>>>> difference
>>
>>>>>>>>> is what
>>>>>>>>> the GUI and the logos look like.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The rest is no more of a variation on a theme than you get going
>> from
>>>>>>>>> Borders to Barnes & Noble.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78397 is a reply to message #78391] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 06:45 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
|
Senior Member |
|
|
James......
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45ab4795$1@linux...
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>hmmmm...........can you just stop them from running in the background and
>
>>then reenable them like the Administrative Tools options in windows?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Dej
>
> The only software that runs in the back ground is DashBoard, and you can
> disable it, or completely remove it. But I don't think it's much of a hit
> on the system.
OK.that's great!!
>
> I'm still not sure why you think Mac OSX is bloated?
Because it's got so much stuff bundled with it that it totally unnecessary
for my needs.
I'm not sure why you
> think the first thing you would have to do is get under the hood and start
> ripping things out???
I just have to do this. I don't even know why anymore. ;o)
To me it would be like you getting a new 600 hp. Dodge
> Viper, and the first thing you want to do is rip out the AC system and
> passenger
> seat to make it faster, when all your going to do is drive it on the
> street.
But I'm not driving it on the street. My office computer is my street
machine and it's got tons of crap on it that I'd never want on a DAW.
> I would use a Mac out of the box for 6 months and worry about optimizing
> it later. However, if you want to hot rod a Mac, this is one of the
> sites.
>
> http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/
Yeah. I'm familiar with that site. I used to read Thad's articles there.
>
> Some of what you call bloat, like GarageBand you might find useful for
> song
> writing. Until you use it for a while, you won't know. Your thinking
> that
> you need a dedicated optimize audio work station, and that's Ok, but with
> a Mac you really can use it for everything without it being a problem. I
> guess it's a different line of thinking.
Definitely different and no offense, but this goes to the root of my
misgivings about Macs. There have been so many outright lies told by Apple
vis-a-vis performance that the company has no credibility (with me at
least). Plus, I don't like the little smartass on their commercials.
;o)
>
> Honestly, I think it could be a bit of a hard transition for a hard core
> PC user. I think at first, nothing will be where you want it to be. I
> think
> it would be like being dropped off in a huge city you never been in. A
> place
> where they drive on the opocit side of the street and nobody speaks your
> language. It is to some extent like a whole different world.
I know. I own a Mac now. My wife uses it. I just give it sidelong dirty
looks whenever I'm in it's presence and it's always ****'ing up.
You'd have
> the basics down in an hour or two. After a year of honest effort, you
> will
> either hate it, or be totally hook. Either way, you'll truly know if a
> Mac
> is for you.
>
> I'm not telling you to get a Mac, I think if you do, you will miss all
> your
> PC tinkering. Then again, I know you'll find away.
>
> James
Yes, it would definitely get *personalized* before too long.
;o)
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78398 is a reply to message #78392] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 06:48 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Links saved!!! Thanks. I'm gonna go down to our local Mac store and have
some fun with their demo machines. gotta try this stuff.
;oD
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45ab4b69$1@linux...
>
> Well, here's more.
>
> http://aroundcny.com/technofile/texts/mac031004.html
>
> http://guides.macrumors.com/Uninstalling_Applications_in_Mac _OS_X
>
> uninstaller software:
>
> http://mac.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Uninstaller.sh tml
>
> http://www.allume.com/mac/springcleaning/updates.html
>
> http://www.appzapper.com/
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>So how do I get rid of 90% of the bloat that is advertized as being
>>loaded
>
>>on the Mac? Is that as simple as everything else it does?
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:45aacb64$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Heh. True, and good thing too. Don't forget to keep track of your costs
>>>
>>>>in all this, so next time we discuss which platform is actually
>>>>"cheaper" we remember to take into account all these systems you keep
>>>>building. :^)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>
>>> Soon it will be Vista surgery time, ouch! ; )
>>>
>>> http://www.apple.com/getamac/
>>>
>>> ...and it goes on, and on!
>>>
>>>>
>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>> I'm building a new one right now with an AMD 64 4800 x 2 CPU that's
>
>>>>> going
>>> to
>>>>> have 3 x EDS cards in it pretty soon. I've had some "issues" with it
>
>>>>> though.
>>>
>>>>> Strange stuff, but I'm getting there. this is one of the coolest
>>>>> mobo's
>>> I've
>>>>> ever seen as far as being able to assign IRQ's to individual PCI
>>>>> slots,
>>> but,
>>>>> of course, like Paris, it's a discontinued model and rarer'n hen's
>>>>> teeth.
>>> Of
>>>>> course, being a Mac guy instead of a normal person, you don't get to
>
>>>>> rejoice
>>>
>>>>> in the ability to assign IRQs.
>>>>>
>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:45aa8362@linux...
>>>>>> Don't get a Mac Deej. If we don't hear at least one story every month
>>>
>>>>>> about an amazing cobbled together Deej DAW contraption, we will die.
>>> ;^)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>>> I really thought hard about jumping into this, especially since I
>
>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>
>>>>>>> accused of hating Macs, but it's worse than arguing politics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :O)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:C1CFB853.6939%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>>>>>>> On 1/14/07 9:53 AM, in article 45aa5d12@linux, "Jamie K"
>>>>>>>> <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're right Dedric, they're all computers. They have always used
>>>>>>>>> similar components and people argued about the differences. Now
> that
>>>>>>>>> they use pretty much the same components, there's still room to
>
>>>>>>>>> discuss
>>>>>>>>> what differences remain.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The difference between OSX and, say, Vista, is more than the look
>>> of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> GUI and logos. While there are strong similarities, different
>>>>>>>>> philosophies and implementations create different user
>>>>>>>>> experiences.
>>> How
>>>>>>>>> much of that difference matters to you will influence your desire
>>> to
>>>>>>>>> waste time on these threads. :^)
>>>>>>>> Of course - I was just giving you guys a hard time because you
>>>>>>>> seemed
>>> to
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> arguing the same point from different perspectives. It's always
> best
>>> to
>>>>>>>> evaluate tech gear for what it is rather than how it is marketed.
>>>>>>>>> But if you just want to get down the hill and don't see much
>>>>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>>>> in how you get there, a snowboard is as good as skis. No real
>>>>>>>>> difference...
>>>>>>>> Skis are better :-) ...and it's important to enjoy the whole
>>>>>>>> mountain,
>>>
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> just the groomed runs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW - iPhone is very cool. I don't have a new PDA, or cutting edge
>>>
>>>>>>>> phone,
>>>>>>>> so maybe there are other options too, but the touch screen and
>>>>>>>> orientation
>>>>>>>> detection rock. Too expensive for now though. If they come down,
>>> I
>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>> consider getting one if it isn't too bulky for a phone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/13/07 6:48 PM, in article 45a988e7@linux, "Jamie K"
>>>>>>>>>> <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> TCB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's right, Jamie, I finally noticed that Apple is using
>>>>>>>>>>>> Intel
>>>>>>>>>>>> processors.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You know me, never up on much in that wild and crazy world of
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> tech.
>>>>>>>>>>> Guess not, for Apple anyway. This is old news. Processors,
>>>>>>>>>>> onboard
>>>>>>>>>>> graphics chipsets on the low end, and, heck, doesn't Intel do
> the
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> entire
>>>>>>>>>>> motherboard now? So now, what were you complaining about?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pardon me dropping in uninvited.... but...umm... what exactly are
>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> guys
>>>>>>>>>> arguing about? ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> An Intel cpu is an Intel cpu. Don't know what motherboards the
> new
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Macs
>>>>>>>>>> use, but undoubtedly they are also available on Newegg or
>>>>>>>>>> TigerDirect
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>> PC - the same goes for every other part, other than the case and
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> OS.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Motorola boards were made for Apple (probably exclusively)
>>>>>>>>>> because,
>>>>>>>>>> well, no one else used Motorola cpus for a PC (mostly for other
>>>>>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>>>>>> devices). I learned assembly language on 808x and 68k processors
>>> -
>>>>>>>>>> Intel
>>>>>>>>>> and Motorola. Both do much the same thing, but with a different
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> framework -
>>>>>>>>>> 68k's were a little better suited for graphics, but not so much
> for
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> math -
>>>>>>>>>> vice versa for the Intels, though the differences were more in
> the
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> structure
>>>>>>>>>> and form of the instruction set, rather than actual functions -
>
>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> main difference the later versions inherited. The problem with
>
>>>>>>>>>> Moto
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> is they
>>>>>>>>>> couldn't get their clock speeds down with their design - it was
> a
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> limited
>>>>>>>>>> design there. I think it is smart of Apple to finally ditch them
>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> go for
>>>>>>>>>> Intel (or AMD as was considered for a while I believe).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Motherboard manufacturers just make boards to run whatever cpu
> is
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> selling
>>>>>>>>>> enough to warrant making a board for it, so now you could
>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> drop most
>>>>>>>>>> any core 2 duo compatible mobo in a Mac and it should run, unless
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> OS is
>>>>>>>>>> setup to lock out all but spec'd boards, or tolerances with other
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> parts are
>>>>>>>>>> too low.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> With comps today, when it comes down to it, the only real
>>>>>>>>>> difference
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> is what
>>>>>>>>>> the GUI and the logos look like.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The rest is no more of a variation on a theme than you get going
>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> Borders to Barnes & Noble.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78400 is a reply to message #78385] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 08:45 |
Nappy
Messages: 198
Registered: September 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Understood!
I'm not as computer savvy as most here which factors into my decision to
go with a Mac. I agree,preferance is everything.
PS how are the kids? You do have 2 if I recall?
I remember when your first was born.
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Hey Nappy - first I'm just posting as a friendly comparison of perspectives,
>not a one is "better" than the other debate, just to be sure you don't
>misunderstand my intent, or think that I'm trying to degrade the value of
a
>Mac - great systems and nice design on a lot of levels. :-)
>
>The only software I saw in the Apple store config was optional - iLife,
etc,
>and not included in the $2499. (Bluetooth, etc. also additional). Doesn't
>really leave much, if anything different from what comes with Windows XP.
>Sure, iPhoto, iMovie are nicer than Windows, but I don't use those at all
as
>they are really just home user apps anyway.
>
>Software advantage depends on what you need it for - for Logic, there's
no
>other choice. If it's for home use, or even just buying off the shelf,
then
>preference really has everything to do with it.
>
>I agree on PCI slots, hardware, etc. that's my big reason for staying with
>PCs, that and they are just easier to use as sample library farms (and
>multiple PCs also certainly work fine with a Mac/Logic as the main
>sequencer/host).
>
>Actually for the $90 saved, I would also be getting higher quality RAM (at
>least based on what past models have used), possibly a better hard drive,
>more PCI slots, and more options on the motherboard out of the box, but
>yeah, it's only really relevant for guys like me that try to get the most
>out of it for a specific purpose. And yes it is in a pro use where the
>extra 5-10% can make a difference - even spending an extra $90 or so I could
>get 2G which is a minimum for what I do - to add an extra 1G it's an extra
>$299 (assuming the buyer would want to go DIY to save $200).
>
>Of course that doesn't make the Mac any less of a pro solution - it's a
>great solution.
>
>It's preference - that's all I'm saying. There aren't stark contrasts that
>often seem to be purported in these threads. For most people it's shades
of
>silicon and grey; but for some users, those shades are much more than a
$90
>difference or a half day spent building a system.
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
>On 1/14/07 9:57 PM, in article 45aafba9$1@linux, "Nappy"
><mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dedric,
>> If you add all the software that comes with it and the elegant design
plus
>> the fact that you can run both OSX and XP and you don't have to build
it
>> makes
>> up for the 90 plus dollars you save. I'm just saying it makes sense for
a
>> Pro to buy.
>> You can do what you want,but you can't deny that its a good value. I'm
not
>> a die
>> hard Mac person,in fact I'm going to build a PC to run PARIS on,it makes
>> more sense.
>> PC motherboards still offer PCI slots,and buying an old Mac that boots
to
>> OS9 is a step backwards. All I'm saying is don't let your feelings about
>> Steve Jobs stop you from making a move to a Mac if it gives you more options.
>> Lets face it,Thad and James represent two extremes of opinions,I'm talking
>> about options as far as
>> software goes,yes hardware wise PC's have more options,but as was already
>> stated
>> they both have the same or some of the same hardware so I give the Mac
the
>> advantage to Mac for software options. Thats My point.
>>
>> Is saving 90 plus dollars worth it?
>>
>> respect
>> Nappy
>> PS please respond
>>
>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>> On 1/14/07 8:48 PM, in article 45aaeb8d$1@linux, "Nappy"
>>> <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> You see,Thad has still not address the desktop Mac which have 2 Duel
core
>>>> Xeon
>>>> prosessors for $2499,try building one of them for cheaper,ask Chris
Ludwig
>>>>
>>>> if he can build one with the same specs for cheaper. I like Macs because
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Nappy -
>>>
>>> From Newegg.com,
>>> dual 2.66 Xeon
>>> Gigabyte server motherboard,
>>> 1G Corsair DDR2 Ram (2x512),
>>> 250G Western Digital SATA 3G drive
>>> NVidia GeForce 7300 256M card
>>> Sony DVD/CD combo drive (+/- DVDR), 16x
>>> Antec power supply
>>> Coolermaster case
>>> Windows XP Pro SP2 with free upgrade to Vista:
>>>
>>> $2356 shipped.
>>>
>>> Not sure what motherboard or drives Apple uses - I think our last Mac
>>> used Samsung. Memory and DVD/CD drive - also not sure. So I may have
spent
>>> more than necessary on this example. Apple also probably gets a bulk
rate
>>> on cpus so that can save a little over paying $700 each as an individual
>>> buyer.
>>>
>>> fwiw....
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>
>
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78401 is a reply to message #78373] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 08:46 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
|
Senior Member |
|
|
"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>You see,Thad has still not address the desktop Mac which have 2 Duel core
>Xeon
>prosessors for $2499,try building one of them for cheaper,ask Chris Ludwig
>
>if he can build one with the same specs for cheaper.
That has zero to do with what I posted originally. My point was that I have
heard for YEARS that Apple somehow uses these super high grade components
that make their hardware more expensive. I haven't had to set up a Mac in
a few years, and of course the PowerPC versions were comparatively opaque
unless I would go to the trouble of putting Yellow Dog on them. Which I didn't.
But, because a co-workers' kid wanted to play a Windows game on his Macbook
I had a chance to look at what kind of hardware is in a $1400 Apple laptop.
The answer is pretty much the same stuff that's in a $750 Dell laptop, give
or take a copy of iLife and a web cam on the Mac and a bigger screen on the
Dell.
There are plenty of arguments for owning a Mac, the biggest one being personal
preference. I was only seeking to put another of them to bed, that they use
bending end components that put their hardware in another class than what
I use. Quite simply, they don't, and the move to generic Intel hardware makes
that quite clear.
TCB
I like Macs because
>like it
>or not they have software that I use that only runs on a Mac and I can run
>any
>software that runs on XP on it as well and from were i sit thats makes good
>sense to me. Now if they come out with a PC version of Aperture and Logic
>then I'll get
>a PC. Sure I'd like to run OSX on a PC,but hating Steve Jobs is not going
>to stop me
>from using the software I want. Remember the old saying,"Find the software
>you want to use and pick the platform that supports it" The Mac supports
>both
>platforms.
>
>respect
>Nappy
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>How many tracks can that webcam record and play back?
>>
>>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:45aa864c$1@linux...
>>>
>>> And a web cam built in it.
>>>
>>> "Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>The Macbooks have core duo 2 cpu's,try again.
>>>>
>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us& cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bndwe4j&s=bsd
>>>>>
>>>>>Core Duo laptop, 15.4" screen, DVD burner, 1 GB memory. $750
>>>>>
>>>>>There are better deals on occasion but this is the current sweet spot.
>>> I
>>>>>set up two of them last week.
>>>>>
>>>>>TCB
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey Thad! I was checking Dell's prices, I didn't see any Core 2 Duo
>lap
>>>>>tops
>>>>>>for $750.00. I could be wrong, but it looks like they start at $1299.
>>>>
>>>>>I
>>>>>>wonder what they would cost similarly configured?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think Apple typically makes more margin per unit, well that's what
>
>>>>>>I've
>>>>>>read. As a dealer margins were always tight. In the past Apple
>>>>>>manufactured
>>>>>>proprietary hardware, and they just didn't sell the number of units
>that
>>>>>>PC manufactures did to have low prices. With Intel, it's a whole new
>>> ball
>>>>>>game for Apple. I would think Dell still buys 10 times as much stuff
>>> from
>>>>>>Intel as Apple does. Dell probably gets better pricing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have seen Dell do a thousand dollar rebate on their lap tops. When
>>> that
>>>>>>happens, Apple will not be able to compete.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/notebooks ?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That's right, Jamie, I finally noticed that Apple is using Intel
>>>>>>>processors.
>>>>>>>You know me, never up on much in that wild and crazy world of tech.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My point, which I stated fairly clearly, was that I have often heard
>>> the
>>>>>>>argument made that the reason Apple hardware is pricier than an
>>>>>>>equivalent
>>>>>>>Dell or home build is because they use superior components in their
>
>>>>>>>machines.
>>>>>>>That's nonsense. Having seen their 'low end' laptop which runs about
>>> $1300
>>>>>>>I can say for sure that aside from the slot loading optical drive
and
>>>>a
>>>>>>nice
>>>>>>>black case it's a slight downgrade from a $750 Dell. If the optical
>
>>>>>>>drive
>>>>>>>and case are worth 45% more to you, than that's fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BTW - Debian Etch is relatively easy get working on these. If I had
>
>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>money than sense I'd get one as a Debian machine because it's black.
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Where's the fuel? You mean you finally noticed that Apple has gone
>to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Intel for hardware designs, and onboard graphics on the low end
>>>>>>>>models?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This is pretty old news. When Apple announced the Intel switch more
>>> than
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>a year ago, this was one of the reasons given. The Macbook is their
>>> low
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>end laptop, and probably the biggest cost reduction was using the
>>>>>>>>onboard graphics instead of something snazzier. The Macbook Pro has
>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>snazzier stuff, but it's still off the shelf with OSX drivers. Apple
>>>>
>>>>>>>>doesn't and hasn't ever AFAIK developed their own graphics chipsets.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Well heck, they don't develop their own CPUs either, although I
>>>>>>>>imagine
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>they give input to those companies. Up until last year Apple chose
>>>>>>>>different CPU models than were blessed by Microsoft, and tried to
>gain
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>an advantage from the differences. Now they are using the same CPUs
>>> that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Microsoft likes, so any advantage is going to be from design and
>>>>>>>>software.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I like Apple's desktop case design. Really easy to get into and change
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>memory, drives, etc.; quiet and cool running airflow. The laptop
>>>>>>>>designs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>have varied at accessibility, sometimes compromising for thinness.
>For
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>example my PowerBook is easy to access for memory upgrades but not
>for
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>HD upgrades. That may have changed in the new ones.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mac laptop sales are rising, other manufacturers are copying their
>
>>>>>>>>form
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>factor, but if you ever buy one (other than overpaying for a Macbook
>>>>for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>someone else, and then complaining about it) I'll be amazed. Sorry
>you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>had to subject yourself to working on a Mac today, but even sorrier
>>> you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>had to infect it with XP. ;^)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>TCB wrote:
>>>>>>>>> So, I had to set up XP on a Mac Book today. The child of an
>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>person
>>>>>>>>> on my office had one and, surprise, most of the games a 12 year
>old
>>>>>likes
>>>>>>>>> to play don't have Mac versions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, once and for all I can put to rest the notion that Apple
>>>>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>> somehow 'super special' and thus justifies the higher price. Intel
>>>>chipset,
>>>>>>>>> Intel integrated graphics, Atheros wireless, Marvell NIC, generic
>>> firewire
>>>>>>>>> controller. The CD/DVD burner was the slot loading kind, so that's
>>>>slightly
>>>>>>>>> cool (unless you want to pop out the CD before the machine boots
>
>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>>>> nice to have a physical switch), but that's about the only thing
>
>>>>>>>>> unusual
>>>>>>>>> about the hardware. If you were to show me the XP device list for
>>> a
>>>>>Mac
>>>>>>>Book
>>>>>>>>> and the same list from a Dell 640m (two of which I've also set
up
>>> recently)
>>>>>>>>> I would have given a _slight_ preference to the Dell, mostly because
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>uses
>>>>>>>>> an Intel wireless chipset that does b/g/n and bluetooth on one
chip,
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>> I've had very good luck with those wireless cards. A 640m also
has
>>>>a
>>>>>>larger
>>>>>>>>> screed and costs around $750.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In better news, I wound up on modular synth dreamland for about
>five
>>>>>>hours
>>>>>>>>> last night, wiring up my John Bowen Pro Wave into modular patches
>>> and
>>>>>>>using
>>>>>>>>> it to feed vocoders and all of the things that make computer
>>>>>>>>> recording
>>>>>>>worth
>>>>>>>>> it. Then I forgot to save the presets, but hey, that's the way
it
>>> goes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78402 is a reply to message #78400] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 08:22 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
|
Senior Member |
|
|
On 1/15/07 9:45 AM, in article 45aba181$1@linux, "Nappy"
<mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Understood!
> I'm not as computer savvy as most here which factors into my decision to
> go with a Mac. I agree,preferance is everything.
Hey Nappy -
We all debate these things as if they really matter, but it's just a means
to an end. Macs are great systems - the best comp is the one that serves
you best.
>
> PS how are the kids? You do have 2 if I recall?
> I remember when your first was born.
We do - thanks for asking. They are doing great! Aidan is 6 and in
kindergarten, and Bren is 19 months - both are a lot of fun - sweet kids.
How's your family? How are you?
Regards,
Dedric
>
> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>> Hey Nappy - first I'm just posting as a friendly comparison of perspectives,
>> not a one is "better" than the other debate, just to be sure you don't
>> misunderstand my intent, or think that I'm trying to degrade the value of
> a
>> Mac - great systems and nice design on a lot of levels. :-)
>>
>> The only software I saw in the Apple store config was optional - iLife,
> etc,
>> and not included in the $2499. (Bluetooth, etc. also additional). Doesn't
>> really leave much, if anything different from what comes with Windows XP.
>> Sure, iPhoto, iMovie are nicer than Windows, but I don't use those at all
> as
>> they are really just home user apps anyway.
>>
>> Software advantage depends on what you need it for - for Logic, there's
> no
>> other choice. If it's for home use, or even just buying off the shelf,
> then
>> preference really has everything to do with it.
>>
>> I agree on PCI slots, hardware, etc. that's my big reason for staying with
>> PCs, that and they are just easier to use as sample library farms (and
>> multiple PCs also certainly work fine with a Mac/Logic as the main
>> sequencer/host).
>>
>> Actually for the $90 saved, I would also be getting higher quality RAM (at
>> least based on what past models have used), possibly a better hard drive,
>> more PCI slots, and more options on the motherboard out of the box, but
>> yeah, it's only really relevant for guys like me that try to get the most
>> out of it for a specific purpose. And yes it is in a pro use where the
>> extra 5-10% can make a difference - even spending an extra $90 or so I could
>> get 2G which is a minimum for what I do - to add an extra 1G it's an extra
>> $299 (assuming the buyer would want to go DIY to save $200).
>>
>> Of course that doesn't make the Mac any less of a pro solution - it's a
>> great solution.
>>
>> It's preference - that's all I'm saying. There aren't stark contrasts that
>> often seem to be purported in these threads. For most people it's shades
> of
>> silicon and grey; but for some users, those shades are much more than a
> $90
>> difference or a half day spent building a system.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dedric
>>
>> On 1/14/07 9:57 PM, in article 45aafba9$1@linux, "Nappy"
>> <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Dedric,
>>> If you add all the software that comes with it and the elegant design
> plus
>>> the fact that you can run both OSX and XP and you don't have to build
> it
>>> makes
>>> up for the 90 plus dollars you save. I'm just saying it makes sense for
> a
>>> Pro to buy.
>>> You can do what you want,but you can't deny that its a good value. I'm
> not
>>> a die
>>> hard Mac person,in fact I'm going to build a PC to run PARIS on,it makes
>>> more sense.
>>> PC motherboards still offer PCI slots,and buying an old Mac that boots
> to
>>> OS9 is a step backwards. All I'm saying is don't let your feelings about
>>> Steve Jobs stop you from making a move to a Mac if it gives you more
>>> options.
>>> Lets face it,Thad and James represent two extremes of opinions,I'm talking
>>> about options as far as
>>> software goes,yes hardware wise PC's have more options,but as was already
>>> stated
>>> they both have the same or some of the same hardware so I give the Mac
> the
>>> advantage to Mac for software options. Thats My point.
>>>
>>> Is saving 90 plus dollars worth it?
>>>
>>> respect
>>> Nappy
>>> PS please respond
>>>
>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>> On 1/14/07 8:48 PM, in article 45aaeb8d$1@linux, "Nappy"
>>>> <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>> You see,Thad has still not address the desktop Mac which have 2 Duel
> core
>>>>> Xeon
>>>>> prosessors for $2499,try building one of them for cheaper,ask Chris
> Ludwig
>>>>>
>>>>> if he can build one with the same specs for cheaper. I like Macs because
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey Nappy -
>>>>
>>>> From Newegg.com,
>>>> dual 2.66 Xeon
>>>> Gigabyte server motherboard,
>>>> 1G Corsair DDR2 Ram (2x512),
>>>> 250G Western Digital SATA 3G drive
>>>> NVidia GeForce 7300 256M card
>>>> Sony DVD/CD combo drive (+/- DVDR), 16x
>>>> Antec power supply
>>>> Coolermaster case
>>>> Windows XP Pro SP2 with free upgrade to Vista:
>>>>
>>>> $2356 shipped.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what motherboard or drives Apple uses - I think our last Mac
>>>> used Samsung. Memory and DVD/CD drive - also not sure. So I may have
> spent
>>>> more than necessary on this example. Apple also probably gets a bulk
> rate
>>>> on cpus so that can save a little over paying $700 each as an individual
>>>> buyer.
>>>>
>>>> fwiw....
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dedric
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78416 is a reply to message #78398] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 11:23 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Hey Deej!
Be careful, some of those demo machines are FUBARed! Some people actually
try to hack and sabotage them. Or is that your purpose? ; )
On your PC you have a good cognitive map of where every thing is and how
it works. Like I said, Mac OSX will be like being dropped off in a strange
city. A good way to get a better understanding of Mac OSX is to read all
the info here:
http://www.apple.com/support/mac101/
I know this is going to sound obvious or elementary, but another good source
of information is under the help menu in OSX. Just type in a keyword or
short question, but start with the mac101 first.
After you go through mac101, then check this out.
http://www.apple.com/support/switch101/
I think that Apple will release the Core 2 Quad 8 processor machine in the
next 3 to 4 months. By July for sure. I would wait to buy, if that's what
your thinking. Their release schedule is all different now with the Intel
chips???
James
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Links saved!!! Thanks. I'm gonna go down to our local Mac store and have
>some fun with their demo machines. gotta try this stuff.
>
>;oD
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:45ab4b69$1@linux...
>>
>> Well, here's more.
>>
>> http://aroundcny.com/technofile/texts/mac031004.html
>>
>> http://guides.macrumors.com/Uninstalling_Applications_in_Mac _OS_X
>>
>> uninstaller software:
>>
>> http://mac.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Uninstaller.sh tml
>>
>> http://www.allume.com/mac/springcleaning/updates.html
>>
>> http://www.appzapper.com/
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>So how do I get rid of 90% of the bloat that is advertized as being
>>>loaded
>>
>>>on the Mac? Is that as simple as everything else it does?
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:45aacb64$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Heh. True, and good thing too. Don't forget to keep track of your costs
>>>>
>>>>>in all this, so next time we discuss which platform is actually
>>>>>"cheaper" we remember to take into account all these systems you keep
>>>>>building. :^)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Soon it will be Vista surgery time, ouch! ; )
>>>>
>>>> http://www.apple.com/getamac/
>>>>
>>>> ...and it goes on, and on!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>> I'm building a new one right now with an AMD 64 4800 x 2 CPU that's
>>
>>>>>> going
>>>> to
>>>>>> have 3 x EDS cards in it pretty soon. I've had some "issues" with
it
>>
>>>>>> though.
>>>>
>>>>>> Strange stuff, but I'm getting there. this is one of the coolest
>>>>>> mobo's
>>>> I've
>>>>>> ever seen as far as being able to assign IRQ's to individual PCI
>>>>>> slots,
>>>> but,
>>>>>> of course, like Paris, it's a discontinued model and rarer'n hen's
>>>>>> teeth.
>>>> Of
>>>>>> course, being a Mac guy instead of a normal person, you don't get
to
>>
>>>>>> rejoice
>>>>
>>>>>> in the ability to assign IRQs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:45aa8362@linux...
>>>>>>> Don't get a Mac Deej. If we don't hear at least one story every month
>>>>
>>>>>>> about an amazing cobbled together Deej DAW contraption, we will die.
>>>> ;^)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>> I really thought hard about jumping into this, especially since
I
>>
>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>
>>>>>>>> accused of hating Macs, but it's worse than arguing politics.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :O)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:C1CFB853.6939%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>>>>>>>> On 1/14/07 9:53 AM, in article 45aa5d12@linux, "Jamie K"
>>>>>>>>> <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You're right Dedric, they're all computers. They have always used
>>>>>>>>>> similar components and people argued about the differences. Now
>> that
>>>>>>>>>> they use pretty much the same components, there's still room to
>>
>>>>>>>>>> discuss
>>>>>>>>>> what differences remain.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The difference between OSX and, say, Vista, is more than the look
>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> GUI and logos. While there are strong similarities, different
>>>>>>>>>> philosophies and implementations create different user
>>>>>>>>>> experiences.
>>>> How
>>>>>>>>>> much of that difference matters to you will influence your desire
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> waste time on these threads. :^)
>>>>>>>>> Of course - I was just giving you guys a hard time because you
>>>>>>>>> seemed
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> arguing the same point from different perspectives. It's always
>> best
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> evaluate tech gear for what it is rather than how it is marketed.
>>>>>>>>>> But if you just want to get down the hill and don't see much
>>>>>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>>>>> in how you get there, a snowboard is as good as skis. No real
>>>>>>>>>> difference...
>>>>>>>>> Skis are better :-) ...and it's important to enjoy the whole
>>>>>>>>> mountain,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> just the groomed runs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BTW - iPhone is very cool. I don't have a new PDA, or cutting
edge
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> phone,
>>>>>>>>> so maybe there are other options too, but the touch screen and
>>>>>>>>> orientation
>>>>>>>>> detection rock. Too expensive for now though. If they come down,
>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>> consider getting one if it isn't too bulky for a phone.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/13/07 6:48 PM, in article 45a988e7@linux, "Jamie K"
>>>>>>>>>>> <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> TCB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's right, Jamie, I finally noticed that Apple is using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Intel
>>>>>>>>>>>>> processors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know me, never up on much in that wild and crazy world
of
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tech.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Guess not, for Apple anyway. This is old news. Processors,
>>>>>>>>>>>> onboard
>>>>>>>>>>>> graphics chipsets on the low end, and, heck, doesn't Intel do
>> the
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> entire
>>>>>>>>>>>> motherboard now? So now, what were you complaining about?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pardon me dropping in uninvited.... but...umm... what exactly
are
>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> guys
>>>>>>>>>>> arguing about? ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> An Intel cpu is an Intel cpu. Don't know what motherboards the
>> new
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Macs
>>>>>>>>>>> use, but undoubtedly they are also available on Newegg or
>>>>>>>>>>> TigerDirect
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>> PC - the same goes for every other part, other than the case
and
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> OS.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Motorola boards were made for Apple (probably exclusively)
>>>>>>>>>>> because,
>>>>>>>>>>> well, no one else used Motorola cpus for a PC (mostly for other
>>>>>>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>>>>>>> devices). I learned assembly language on 808x and 68k processors
>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>> Intel
>>>>>>>>>>> and Motorola. Both do much the same thing, but with a different
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> framework -
>>>>>>>>>>> 68k's were a little better suited for graphics, but not so much
>> for
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> math -
>>>>>>>>>>> vice versa for the Intels, though the differences were more in
>> the
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> structure
>>>>>>>>>>> and form of the instruction set, rather than actual functions
-
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> main difference the later versions inherited. The problem with
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Moto
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> is they
>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't get their clock speeds down with their design - it was
>> a
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> limited
>>>>>>>>>>> design there. I think it is smart of Apple to finally ditch
them
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> go for
>>>>>>>>>>> Intel (or AMD as was considered for a while I believe).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Motherboard manufacturers just make boards to run whatever cpu
>> is
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> selling
>>>>>>>>>>> enough to warrant making a board for it, so now you could
>>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> drop most
>>>>>>>>>>> any core 2 duo compatible mobo in a Mac and it should run, unless
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> OS is
>>>>>>>>>>> setup to lock out all but spec'd boards, or tolerances with other
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> parts are
>>>>>>>>>>> too low.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> With comps today, when it comes down to it, the only real
>>>>>>>>>>> difference
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> is what
>>>>>>>>>>> the GUI and the logos look like.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The rest is no more of a variation on a theme than you get going
>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> Borders to Barnes & Noble.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78426 is a reply to message #78401] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 13:22 |
Nappy
Messages: 198
Registered: September 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Fair enough
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>
>>
>>You see,Thad has still not address the desktop Mac which have 2 Duel core
>>Xeon
>>prosessors for $2499,try building one of them for cheaper,ask Chris Ludwig
>>
>>if he can build one with the same specs for cheaper.
>
>That has zero to do with what I posted originally. My point was that I have
>heard for YEARS that Apple somehow uses these super high grade components
>that make their hardware more expensive. I haven't had to set up a Mac in
>a few years, and of course the PowerPC versions were comparatively opaque
>unless I would go to the trouble of putting Yellow Dog on them. Which I
didn't.
>But, because a co-workers' kid wanted to play a Windows game on his Macbook
>I had a chance to look at what kind of hardware is in a $1400 Apple laptop.
>The answer is pretty much the same stuff that's in a $750 Dell laptop, give
>or take a copy of iLife and a web cam on the Mac and a bigger screen on
the
>Dell.
>
>There are plenty of arguments for owning a Mac, the biggest one being personal
>preference. I was only seeking to put another of them to bed, that they
use
>bending end components that put their hardware in another class than what
>I use. Quite simply, they don't, and the move to generic Intel hardware
makes
>that quite clear.
>
>TCB
>
>I like Macs because
>>like it
>>or not they have software that I use that only runs on a Mac and I can
run
>>any
>>software that runs on XP on it as well and from were i sit thats makes
good
>>sense to me. Now if they come out with a PC version of Aperture and Logic
>>then I'll get
>>a PC. Sure I'd like to run OSX on a PC,but hating Steve Jobs is not going
>>to stop me
>>from using the software I want. Remember the old saying,"Find the software
>>you want to use and pick the platform that supports it" The Mac supports
>>both
>>platforms.
>>
>>respect
>>Nappy
>>
>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>How many tracks can that webcam record and play back?
>>>
>>>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:45aa864c$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> And a web cam built in it.
>>>>
>>>> "Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>The Macbooks have core duo 2 cpu's,try again.
>>>>>
>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us& cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bndwe4j&s=bsd
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Core Duo laptop, 15.4" screen, DVD burner, 1 GB memory. $750
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There are better deals on occasion but this is the current sweet spot.
>>>> I
>>>>>>set up two of them last week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hey Thad! I was checking Dell's prices, I didn't see any Core 2 Duo
>>lap
>>>>>>tops
>>>>>>>for $750.00. I could be wrong, but it looks like they start at $1299.
>>>>>
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>wonder what they would cost similarly configured?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think Apple typically makes more margin per unit, well that's what
>>
>>>>>>>I've
>>>>>>>read. As a dealer margins were always tight. In the past Apple
>>>>>>>manufactured
>>>>>>>proprietary hardware, and they just didn't sell the number of units
>>that
>>>>>>>PC manufactures did to have low prices. With Intel, it's a whole
new
>>>> ball
>>>>>>>game for Apple. I would think Dell still buys 10 times as much stuff
>>>> from
>>>>>>>Intel as Apple does. Dell probably gets better pricing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have seen Dell do a thousand dollar rebate on their lap tops. When
>>>> that
>>>>>>>happens, Apple will not be able to compete.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/notebooks ?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That's right, Jamie, I finally noticed that Apple is using Intel
>>>>>>>>processors.
>>>>>>>>You know me, never up on much in that wild and crazy world of tech.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My point, which I stated fairly clearly, was that I have often heard
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>argument made that the reason Apple hardware is pricier than an
>>>>>>>>equivalent
>>>>>>>>Dell or home build is because they use superior components in their
>>
>>>>>>>>machines.
>>>>>>>>That's nonsense. Having seen their 'low end' laptop which runs about
>>>> $1300
>>>>>>>>I can say for sure that aside from the slot loading optical drive
>and
>>>>>a
>>>>>>>nice
>>>>>>>>black case it's a slight downgrade from a $750 Dell. If the optical
>>
>>>>>>>>drive
>>>>>>>>and case are worth 45% more to you, than that's fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>BTW - Debian Etch is relatively easy get working on these. If I had
>>
>>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>>money than sense I'd get one as a Debian machine because it's black.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Where's the fuel? You mean you finally noticed that Apple has gone
>>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Intel for hardware designs, and onboard graphics on the low end
>>>>>>>>>models?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>This is pretty old news. When Apple announced the Intel switch more
>>>> than
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>a year ago, this was one of the reasons given. The Macbook is their
>>>> low
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>end laptop, and probably the biggest cost reduction was using the
>>>>>>>>>onboard graphics instead of something snazzier. The Macbook Pro
has
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>snazzier stuff, but it's still off the shelf with OSX drivers. Apple
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>doesn't and hasn't ever AFAIK developed their own graphics chipsets.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Well heck, they don't develop their own CPUs either, although I
>>>>>>>>>imagine
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>they give input to those companies. Up until last year Apple chose
>>>>>>>>>different CPU models than were blessed by Microsoft, and tried to
>>gain
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>an advantage from the differences. Now they are using the same CPUs
>>>> that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Microsoft likes, so any advantage is going to be from design and
>
>>>>>>>>>software.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I like Apple's desktop case design. Really easy to get into and
change
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>memory, drives, etc.; quiet and cool running airflow. The laptop
>
>>>>>>>>>designs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>have varied at accessibility, sometimes compromising for thinness.
>>For
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>example my PowerBook is easy to access for memory upgrades but not
>>for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>HD upgrades. That may have changed in the new ones.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mac laptop sales are rising, other manufacturers are copying their
>>
>>>>>>>>>form
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>factor, but if you ever buy one (other than overpaying for a Macbook
>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>someone else, and then complaining about it) I'll be amazed. Sorry
>>you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>had to subject yourself to working on a Mac today, but even sorrier
>>>> you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>had to infect it with XP. ;^)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>TCB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> So, I had to set up XP on a Mac Book today. The child of an
>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>person
>>>>>>>>>> on my office had one and, surprise, most of the games a 12 year
>>old
>>>>>>likes
>>>>>>>>>> to play don't have Mac versions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So, once and for all I can put to rest the notion that Apple
>>>>>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>> somehow 'super special' and thus justifies the higher price. Intel
>>>>>chipset,
>>>>>>>>>> Intel integrated graphics, Atheros wireless, Marvell NIC, generic
>>>> firewire
>>>>>>>>>> controller. The CD/DVD burner was the slot loading kind, so that's
>>>>>slightly
>>>>>>>>>> cool (unless you want to pop out the CD before the machine boots
>>
>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>>>>> nice to have a physical switch), but that's about the only thing
>>
>>>>>>>>>> unusual
>>>>>>>>>> about the hardware. If you were to show me the XP device list
for
>>>> a
>>>>>>Mac
>>>>>>>>Book
>>>>>>>>>> and the same list from a Dell 640m (two of which I've also set
>up
>>>> recently)
>>>>>>>>>> I would have given a _slight_ preference to the Dell, mostly because
>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>uses
>>>>>>>>>> an Intel wireless chipset that does b/g/n and bluetooth on one
>chip,
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>> I've had very good luck with those wireless cards. A 640m also
>has
>>>>>a
>>>>>>>larger
>>>>>>>>>> screed and costs around $750.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In better news, I wound up on modular synth dreamland for about
>>five
>>>>>>>hours
>>>>>>>>>> last night, wiring up my John Bowen Pro Wave into modular patches
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>using
>>>>>>>>>> it to feed vocoders and all of the things that make computer
>>>>>>>>>> recording
>>>>>>>>worth
>>>>>>>>>> it. Then I forgot to save the presets, but hey, that's the way
>it
>>>> goes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78427 is a reply to message #78402] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 13:30 |
Nappy
Messages: 198
Registered: September 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
|
My family is great,
I've got Ruth who is 5 and in kindergarten as well,and David who is 8 and
in the
second grade,he's into basketball along with his brother Nathaniel who will
be
12 Feb 1st. I'm doing good,just waiting on a kidney. My sister is going though
testing to see if she is a match,if so then I could be getting a transfer
as soon as the summer. All the best to you and your family.
respect
Nappy
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>On 1/15/07 9:45 AM, in article 45aba181$1@linux, "Nappy"
><mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Understood!
>> I'm not as computer savvy as most here which factors into my decision
to
>> go with a Mac. I agree,preferance is everything.
>Hey Nappy -
>
>We all debate these things as if they really matter, but it's just a means
>to an end. Macs are great systems - the best comp is the one that serves
>you best.
>>
>> PS how are the kids? You do have 2 if I recall?
>> I remember when your first was born.
>
>We do - thanks for asking. They are doing great! Aidan is 6 and in
>kindergarten, and Bren is 19 months - both are a lot of fun - sweet kids.
>How's your family? How are you?
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>>
>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>> Hey Nappy - first I'm just posting as a friendly comparison of perspectives,
>>> not a one is "better" than the other debate, just to be sure you don't
>>> misunderstand my intent, or think that I'm trying to degrade the value
of
>> a
>>> Mac - great systems and nice design on a lot of levels. :-)
>>>
>>> The only software I saw in the Apple store config was optional - iLife,
>> etc,
>>> and not included in the $2499. (Bluetooth, etc. also additional). Doesn't
>>> really leave much, if anything different from what comes with Windows
XP.
>>> Sure, iPhoto, iMovie are nicer than Windows, but I don't use those at
all
>> as
>>> they are really just home user apps anyway.
>>>
>>> Software advantage depends on what you need it for - for Logic, there's
>> no
>>> other choice. If it's for home use, or even just buying off the shelf,
>> then
>>> preference really has everything to do with it.
>>>
>>> I agree on PCI slots, hardware, etc. that's my big reason for staying
with
>>> PCs, that and they are just easier to use as sample library farms (and
>>> multiple PCs also certainly work fine with a Mac/Logic as the main
>>> sequencer/host).
>>>
>>> Actually for the $90 saved, I would also be getting higher quality RAM
(at
>>> least based on what past models have used), possibly a better hard drive,
>>> more PCI slots, and more options on the motherboard out of the box, but
>>> yeah, it's only really relevant for guys like me that try to get the
most
>>> out of it for a specific purpose. And yes it is in a pro use where the
>>> extra 5-10% can make a difference - even spending an extra $90 or so
I could
>>> get 2G which is a minimum for what I do - to add an extra 1G it's an
extra
>>> $299 (assuming the buyer would want to go DIY to save $200).
>>>
>>> Of course that doesn't make the Mac any less of a pro solution - it's
a
>>> great solution.
>>>
>>> It's preference - that's all I'm saying. There aren't stark contrasts
that
>>> often seem to be purported in these threads. For most people it's shades
>> of
>>> silicon and grey; but for some users, those shades are much more than
a
>> $90
>>> difference or a half day spent building a system.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>> On 1/14/07 9:57 PM, in article 45aafba9$1@linux, "Nappy"
>>> <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dedric,
>>>> If you add all the software that comes with it and the elegant design
>> plus
>>>> the fact that you can run both OSX and XP and you don't have to build
>> it
>>>> makes
>>>> up for the 90 plus dollars you save. I'm just saying it makes sense
for
>> a
>>>> Pro to buy.
>>>> You can do what you want,but you can't deny that its a good value. I'm
>> not
>>>> a die
>>>> hard Mac person,in fact I'm going to build a PC to run PARIS on,it makes
>>>> more sense.
>>>> PC motherboards still offer PCI slots,and buying an old Mac that boots
>> to
>>>> OS9 is a step backwards. All I'm saying is don't let your feelings about
>>>> Steve Jobs stop you from making a move to a Mac if it gives you more
>>>> options.
>>>> Lets face it,Thad and James represent two extremes of opinions,I'm
talking
>>>> about options as far as
>>>> software goes,yes hardware wise PC's have more options,but as was already
>>>> stated
>>>> they both have the same or some of the same hardware so I give the Mac
>> the
>>>> advantage to Mac for software options. Thats My point.
>>>>
>>>> Is saving 90 plus dollars worth it?
>>>>
>>>> respect
>>>> Nappy
>>>> PS please respond
>>>>
>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 1/14/07 8:48 PM, in article 45aaeb8d$1@linux, "Nappy"
>>>>> <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>> You see,Thad has still not address the desktop Mac which have 2 Duel
>> core
>>>>>> Xeon
>>>>>> prosessors for $2499,try building one of them for cheaper,ask Chris
>> Ludwig
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if he can build one with the same specs for cheaper. I like Macs because
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Nappy -
>>>>>
>>>>> From Newegg.com,
>>>>> dual 2.66 Xeon
>>>>> Gigabyte server motherboard,
>>>>> 1G Corsair DDR2 Ram (2x512),
>>>>> 250G Western Digital SATA 3G drive
>>>>> NVidia GeForce 7300 256M card
>>>>> Sony DVD/CD combo drive (+/- DVDR), 16x
>>>>> Antec power supply
>>>>> Coolermaster case
>>>>> Windows XP Pro SP2 with free upgrade to Vista:
>>>>>
>>>>> $2356 shipped.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure what motherboard or drives Apple uses - I think our last Mac
>>>>> used Samsung. Memory and DVD/CD drive - also not sure. So I may have
>> spent
>>>>> more than necessary on this example. Apple also probably gets a bulk
>> rate
>>>>> on cpus so that can save a little over paying $700 each as an individual
>>>>> buyer.
>>>>>
>>>>> fwiw....
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
|
|
|
|
| Dedric : To add fuel to the fire [message #78428 is a reply to message #78402] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 14:17 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Dedric,
From Newegg.com, dual 2.66 Xeon Gigabyte server motherboard,
Is this board Dual 2 core (Xeon) compatiblle??
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>On 1/15/07 9:45 AM, in article 45aba181$1@linux, "Nappy"
><mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Understood!
>> I'm not as computer savvy as most here which factors into my decision
to
>> go with a Mac. I agree,preferance is everything.
>Hey Nappy -
>
>We all debate these things as if they really matter, but it's just a means
>to an end. Macs are great systems - the best comp is the one that serves
>you best.
>>
>> PS how are the kids? You do have 2 if I recall?
>> I remember when your first was born.
>
>We do - thanks for asking. They are doing great! Aidan is 6 and in
>kindergarten, and Bren is 19 months - both are a lot of fun - sweet kids.
>How's your family? How are you?
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>>
>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>> Hey Nappy - first I'm just posting as a friendly comparison of perspectives,
>>> not a one is "better" than the other debate, just to be sure you don't
>>> misunderstand my intent, or think that I'm trying to degrade the value
of
>> a
>>> Mac - great systems and nice design on a lot of levels. :-)
>>>
>>> The only software I saw in the Apple store config was optional - iLife,
>> etc,
>>> and not included in the $2499. (Bluetooth, etc. also additional). Doesn't
>>> really leave much, if anything different from what comes with Windows
XP.
>>> Sure, iPhoto, iMovie are nicer than Windows, but I don't use those at
all
>> as
>>> they are really just home user apps anyway.
>>>
>>> Software advantage depends on what you need it for - for Logic, there's
>> no
>>> other choice. If it's for home use, or even just buying off the shelf,
>> then
>>> preference really has everything to do with it.
>>>
>>> I agree on PCI slots, hardware, etc. that's my big reason for staying
with
>>> PCs, that and they are just easier to use as sample library farms (and
>>> multiple PCs also certainly work fine with a Mac/Logic as the main
>>> sequencer/host).
>>>
>>> Actually for the $90 saved, I would also be getting higher quality RAM
(at
>>> least based on what past models have used), possibly a better hard drive,
>>> more PCI slots, and more options on the motherboard out of the box, but
>>> yeah, it's only really relevant for guys like me that try to get the
most
>>> out of it for a specific purpose. And yes it is in a pro use where the
>>> extra 5-10% can make a difference - even spending an extra $90 or so
I could
>>> get 2G which is a minimum for what I do - to add an extra 1G it's an
extra
>>> $299 (assuming the buyer would want to go DIY to save $200).
>>>
>>> Of course that doesn't make the Mac any less of a pro solution - it's
a
>>> great solution.
>>>
>>> It's preference - that's all I'm saying. There aren't stark contrasts
that
>>> often seem to be purported in these threads. For most people it's shades
>> of
>>> silicon and grey; but for some users, those shades are much more than
a
>> $90
>>> difference or a half day spent building a system.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>> On 1/14/07 9:57 PM, in article 45aafba9$1@linux, "Nappy"
>>> <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dedric,
>>>> If you add all the software that comes with it and the elegant design
>> plus
>>>> the fact that you can run both OSX and XP and you don't have to build
>> it
>>>> makes
>>>> up for the 90 plus dollars you save. I'm just saying it makes sense
for
>> a
>>>> Pro to buy.
>>>> You can do what you want,but you can't deny that its a good value. I'm
>> not
>>>> a die
>>>> hard Mac person,in fact I'm going to build a PC to run PARIS on,it makes
>>>> more sense.
>>>> PC motherboards still offer PCI slots,and buying an old Mac that boots
>> to
>>>> OS9 is a step backwards. All I'm saying is don't let your feelings about
>>>> Steve Jobs stop you from making a move to a Mac if it gives you more
>>>> options.
>>>> Lets face it,Thad and James represent two extremes of opinions,I'm
talking
>>>> about options as far as
>>>> software goes,yes hardware wise PC's have more options,but as was already
>>>> stated
>>>> they both have the same or some of the same hardware so I give the Mac
>> the
>>>> advantage to Mac for software options. Thats My point.
>>>>
>>>> Is saving 90 plus dollars worth it?
>>>>
>>>> respect
>>>> Nappy
>>>> PS please respond
>>>>
>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 1/14/07 8:48 PM, in article 45aaeb8d$1@linux, "Nappy"
>>>>> <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>> You see,Thad has still not address the desktop Mac which have 2 Duel
>> core
>>>>>> Xeon
>>>>>> prosessors for $2499,try building one of them for cheaper,ask Chris
>> Ludwig
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if he can build one with the same specs for cheaper. I like Macs because
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Nappy -
>>>>>
>>>>> From Newegg.com,
>>>>> dual 2.66 Xeon
>>>>> Gigabyte server motherboard,
>>>>> 1G Corsair DDR2 Ram (2x512),
>>>>> 250G Western Digital SATA 3G drive
>>>>> NVidia GeForce 7300 256M card
>>>>> Sony DVD/CD combo drive (+/- DVDR), 16x
>>>>> Antec power supply
>>>>> Coolermaster case
>>>>> Windows XP Pro SP2 with free upgrade to Vista:
>>>>>
>>>>> $2356 shipped.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure what motherboard or drives Apple uses - I think our last Mac
>>>>> used Samsung. Memory and DVD/CD drive - also not sure. So I may have
>> spent
>>>>> more than necessary on this example. Apple also probably gets a bulk
>> rate
>>>>> on cpus so that can save a little over paying $700 each as an individual
>>>>> buyer.
>>>>>
>>>>> fwiw....
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78430 is a reply to message #78416] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 13:52 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
|
Senior Member |
|
|
James,
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45abc6a4$1@linux...
>
> Hey Deej!
>
> Be careful, some of those demo machines are FUBARed! Some people actually
> try to hack and sabotage them. Or is that your purpose? ; )
Well........as we were discussing, I need to see how much of the existing OS
I can hack, right? I figured I'd have some fun on someone else's machine.
;oD
>
> On your PC you have a good cognitive map of where every thing is and how
> it works. Like I said, Mac OSX will be like being dropped off in a
> strange
> city. A good way to get a better understanding of Mac OSX is to read all
> the info here:
>
> http://www.apple.com/support/mac101/
>
> I know this is going to sound obvious or elementary, but another good
> source
> of information is under the help menu in OSX. Just type in a keyword or
> short question, but start with the mac101 first.
>
> After you go through mac101, then check this out.
>
> http://www.apple.com/support/switch101/
>
> I think that Apple will release the Core 2 Quad 8 processor machine in the
> next 3 to 4 months. By July for sure. I would wait to buy, if that's
> what
> your thinking. Their release schedule is all different now with the Intel
> chips???
>
> James
>Thansk for the info. I'll look into it. right now I'm installing windows on
>a new HD with the AMD dual core to see what happens with 3 x EDS cards that
>were loaned to me a couple of months ago. I figure I need to get this
>experiment done since the guy who loaned them to me has been nice enough
>not to hunt me down and break my knees for being such a slacker on this.
Cheers,
Deej
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>Links saved!!! Thanks. I'm gonna go down to our local Mac store and have
>
>>some fun with their demo machines. gotta try this stuff.
>>
>>;oD
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:45ab4b69$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Well, here's more.
>>>
>>> http://aroundcny.com/technofile/texts/mac031004.html
>>>
>>> http://guides.macrumors.com/Uninstalling_Applications_in_Mac _OS_X
>>>
>>> uninstaller software:
>>>
>>> http://mac.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Uninstaller.sh tml
>>>
>>> http://www.allume.com/mac/springcleaning/updates.html
>>>
>>> http://www.appzapper.com/
>>>
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>So how do I get rid of 90% of the bloat that is advertized as being
>>>>loaded
>>>
>>>>on the Mac? Is that as simple as everything else it does?
>>>>
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:45aacb64$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Heh. True, and good thing too. Don't forget to keep track of your
>>>>>>costs
>>>>>
>>>>>>in all this, so next time we discuss which platform is actually
>>>>>>"cheaper" we remember to take into account all these systems you keep
>>>>>>building. :^)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Soon it will be Vista surgery time, ouch! ; )
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.apple.com/getamac/
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and it goes on, and on!
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm building a new one right now with an AMD 64 4800 x 2 CPU that's
>>>
>>>>>>> going
>>>>> to
>>>>>>> have 3 x EDS cards in it pretty soon. I've had some "issues" with
> it
>>>
>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Strange stuff, but I'm getting there. this is one of the coolest
>>>>>>> mobo's
>>>>> I've
>>>>>>> ever seen as far as being able to assign IRQ's to individual PCI
>>>>>>> slots,
>>>>> but,
>>>>>>> of course, like Paris, it's a discontinued model and rarer'n hen's
>>>>>>> teeth.
>>>>> Of
>>>>>>> course, being a Mac guy instead of a normal person, you don't get
> to
>>>
>>>>>>> rejoice
>>>>>
>>>>>>> in the ability to assign IRQs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:45aa8362@linux...
>>>>>>>> Don't get a Mac Deej. If we don't hear at least one story every
>>>>>>>> month
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> about an amazing cobbled together Deej DAW contraption, we will
>>>>>>>> die.
>>>>> ;^)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I really thought hard about jumping into this, especially since
> I
>>>
>>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> accused of hating Macs, but it's worse than arguing politics.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> :O)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:C1CFB853.6939%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/14/07 9:53 AM, in article 45aa5d12@linux, "Jamie K"
>>>>>>>>>> <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You're right Dedric, they're all computers. They have always
>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>> similar components and people argued about the differences. Now
>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> they use pretty much the same components, there's still room to
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> discuss
>>>>>>>>>>> what differences remain.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The difference between OSX and, say, Vista, is more than the
>>>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> GUI and logos. While there are strong similarities, different
>>>>>>>>>>> philosophies and implementations create different user
>>>>>>>>>>> experiences.
>>>>> How
>>>>>>>>>>> much of that difference matters to you will influence your
>>>>>>>>>>> desire
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> waste time on these threads. :^)
>>>>>>>>>> Of course - I was just giving you guys a hard time because you
>
>>>>>>>>>> seemed
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> arguing the same point from different perspectives. It's always
>>> best
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> evaluate tech gear for what it is rather than how it is marketed.
>>>>>>>>>>> But if you just want to get down the hill and don't see much
>>>>>>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>>>>>> in how you get there, a snowboard is as good as skis. No real
>>>>>>>>>>> difference...
>>>>>>>>>> Skis are better :-) ...and it's important to enjoy the whole
>>>>>>>>>> mountain,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> just the groomed runs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BTW - iPhone is very cool. I don't have a new PDA, or cutting
> edge
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> phone,
>>>>>>>>>> so maybe there are other options too, but the touch screen and
>>>>>>>>>> orientation
>>>>>>>>>> detection rock. Too expensive for now though. If they come
>>>>>>>>>> down,
>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>> consider getting one if it isn't too bulky for a phone.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/13/07 6:48 PM, in article 45a988e7@linux, "Jamie K"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TCB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's right, Jamie, I finally noticed that Apple is using
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Intel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know me, never up on much in that wild and crazy world
> of
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tech.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guess not, for Apple anyway. This is old news. Processors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> onboard
>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphics chipsets on the low end, and, heck, doesn't Intel do
>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire
>>>>>>>>>>>>> motherboard now? So now, what were you complaining about?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pardon me dropping in uninvited.... but...umm... what exactly
> are
>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> guys
>>>>>>>>>>>> arguing about? ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> An Intel cpu is an Intel cpu. Don't know what motherboards the
>>> new
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Macs
>>>>>>>>>>>> use, but undoubtedly they are also available on Newegg or
>>>>>>>>>>>> TigerDirect
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>>> PC - the same goes for every other part, other than the case
> and
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> OS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Motorola boards were made for Apple (probably exclusively)
>>>>>>>>>>>> because,
>>>>>>>>>>>> well, no one else used Motorola cpus for a PC (mostly for other
>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>>>>>>>> devices). I learned assembly language on 808x and 68k
>>>>>>>>>>>> processors
>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>> Intel
>>>>>>>>>>>> and Motorola. Both do much the same thing, but with a
>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> framework -
>>>>>>>>>>>> 68k's were a little better suited for graphics, but not so much
>>> for
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> math -
>>>>>>>>>>>> vice versa for the Intels, though the differences were more in
>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> structure
>>>>>>>>>>>> and form of the instruction set, rather than actual functions
> -
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> main difference the later versions inherited. The problem with
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Moto
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> is they
>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't get their clock speeds down with their design - it was
>>> a
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> limited
>>>>>>>>>>>> design there. I think it is smart of Apple to finally ditch
> them
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> go for
>>>>>>>>>>>> Intel (or AMD as was considered for a while I believe).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Motherboard manufacturers just make boards to run whatever cpu
>>> is
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> selling
>>>>>>>>>>>> enough to warrant making a board for it, so now you could
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> drop most
>>>>>>>>>>>> any core 2 duo compatible mobo in a Mac and it should run,
>>>>>>>>>>>> unless
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> OS is
>>>>>>>>>>>> setup to lock out all but spec'd boards, or tolerances with
>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> parts are
>>>>>>>>>>>> too low.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> With comps today, when it comes down to it, the only real
>>>>>>>>>>>> difference
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> is what
>>>>>>>>>>>> the GUI and the logos look like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest is no more of a variation on a theme than you get
>>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>> Borders to Barnes & Noble.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
|
|
|
|
| Re: Dedric : To add fuel to the fire [message #78433 is a reply to message #78428] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 14:12 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
|
Senior Member |
|
|
The one I was looking at was - socket 771.
Dedric
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:45abef81$1@linux...
>
> Dedric,
> From Newegg.com, dual 2.66 Xeon Gigabyte server motherboard,
>
> Is this board Dual 2 core (Xeon) compatiblle??
>
> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>On 1/15/07 9:45 AM, in article 45aba181$1@linux, "Nappy"
>><mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Understood!
>>> I'm not as computer savvy as most here which factors into my decision
> to
>>> go with a Mac. I agree,preferance is everything.
>>Hey Nappy -
>>
>>We all debate these things as if they really matter, but it's just a means
>>to an end. Macs are great systems - the best comp is the one that serves
>>you best.
>>>
>>> PS how are the kids? You do have 2 if I recall?
>>> I remember when your first was born.
>>
>>We do - thanks for asking. They are doing great! Aidan is 6 and in
>>kindergarten, and Bren is 19 months - both are a lot of fun - sweet kids.
>>How's your family? How are you?
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dedric
>>>
>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>> Hey Nappy - first I'm just posting as a friendly comparison of
>>>> perspectives,
>>>> not a one is "better" than the other debate, just to be sure you don't
>>>> misunderstand my intent, or think that I'm trying to degrade the value
> of
>>> a
>>>> Mac - great systems and nice design on a lot of levels. :-)
>>>>
>>>> The only software I saw in the Apple store config was optional - iLife,
>>> etc,
>>>> and not included in the $2499. (Bluetooth, etc. also additional).
>>>> Doesn't
>>>> really leave much, if anything different from what comes with Windows
> XP.
>>>> Sure, iPhoto, iMovie are nicer than Windows, but I don't use those at
> all
>>> as
>>>> they are really just home user apps anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Software advantage depends on what you need it for - for Logic, there's
>>> no
>>>> other choice. If it's for home use, or even just buying off the shelf,
>>> then
>>>> preference really has everything to do with it.
>>>>
>>>> I agree on PCI slots, hardware, etc. that's my big reason for staying
> with
>>>> PCs, that and they are just easier to use as sample library farms (and
>>>> multiple PCs also certainly work fine with a Mac/Logic as the main
>>>> sequencer/host).
>>>>
>>>> Actually for the $90 saved, I would also be getting higher quality RAM
> (at
>>>> least based on what past models have used), possibly a better hard
>>>> drive,
>>>> more PCI slots, and more options on the motherboard out of the box, but
>>>> yeah, it's only really relevant for guys like me that try to get the
> most
>>>> out of it for a specific purpose. And yes it is in a pro use where the
>>>> extra 5-10% can make a difference - even spending an extra $90 or so
> I could
>>>> get 2G which is a minimum for what I do - to add an extra 1G it's an
> extra
>>>> $299 (assuming the buyer would want to go DIY to save $200).
>>>>
>>>> Of course that doesn't make the Mac any less of a pro solution - it's
> a
>>>> great solution.
>>>>
>>>> It's preference - that's all I'm saying. There aren't stark contrasts
> that
>>>> often seem to be purported in these threads. For most people it's
>>>> shades
>>> of
>>>> silicon and grey; but for some users, those shades are much more than
> a
>>> $90
>>>> difference or a half day spent building a system.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dedric
>>>>
>>>> On 1/14/07 9:57 PM, in article 45aafba9$1@linux, "Nappy"
>>>> <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dedric,
>>>>> If you add all the software that comes with it and the elegant design
>>> plus
>>>>> the fact that you can run both OSX and XP and you don't have to build
>>> it
>>>>> makes
>>>>> up for the 90 plus dollars you save. I'm just saying it makes sense
> for
>>> a
>>>>> Pro to buy.
>>>>> You can do what you want,but you can't deny that its a good value. I'm
>>> not
>>>>> a die
>>>>> hard Mac person,in fact I'm going to build a PC to run PARIS on,it
>>>>> makes
>>>>> more sense.
>>>>> PC motherboards still offer PCI slots,and buying an old Mac that boots
>>> to
>>>>> OS9 is a step backwards. All I'm saying is don't let your feelings
>>>>> about
>>>>> Steve Jobs stop you from making a move to a Mac if it gives you more
>>>>> options.
>>>>> Lets face it,Thad and James represent two extremes of opinions,I'm
> talking
>>>>> about options as far as
>>>>> software goes,yes hardware wise PC's have more options,but as was
>>>>> already
>>>>> stated
>>>>> they both have the same or some of the same hardware so I give the Mac
>>> the
>>>>> advantage to Mac for software options. Thats My point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is saving 90 plus dollars worth it?
>>>>>
>>>>> respect
>>>>> Nappy
>>>>> PS please respond
>>>>>
>>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/14/07 8:48 PM, in article 45aaeb8d$1@linux, "Nappy"
>>>>>> <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> You see,Thad has still not address the desktop Mac which have 2 Duel
>>> core
>>>>>>> Xeon
>>>>>>> prosessors for $2499,try building one of them for cheaper,ask Chris
>>> Ludwig
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if he can build one with the same specs for cheaper. I like Macs
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Nappy -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From Newegg.com,
>>>>>> dual 2.66 Xeon
>>>>>> Gigabyte server motherboard,
>>>>>> 1G Corsair DDR2 Ram (2x512),
>>>>>> 250G Western Digital SATA 3G drive
>>>>>> NVidia GeForce 7300 256M card
>>>>>> Sony DVD/CD combo drive (+/- DVDR), 16x
>>>>>> Antec power supply
>>>>>> Coolermaster case
>>>>>> Windows XP Pro SP2 with free upgrade to Vista:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $2356 shipped.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure what motherboard or drives Apple uses - I think our last Mac
>>>>>> used Samsung. Memory and DVD/CD drive - also not sure. So I may
>>>>>> have
>>> spent
>>>>>> more than necessary on this example. Apple also probably gets a bulk
>>> rate
>>>>>> on cpus so that can save a little over paying $700 each as an
>>>>>> individual
>>>>>> buyer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> fwiw....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
|
|
|
|
| Re: To add fuel to the fire [message #78438 is a reply to message #78401] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 16:24 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
|
Senior Member |
|
|
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
---=_linux45ac0d1a
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>
>>
>>You see,Thad has still not address the desktop Mac which have 2 Duel core
>>Xeon
>>prosessors for $2499,try building one of them for cheaper,ask Chris Ludwig
>>
>>if he can build one with the same specs for cheaper.
>
>That has zero to do with what I posted originally. My point was that I have
>heard for YEARS that Apple somehow uses these super high grade components
>that make their hardware more expensive. I haven't had to set up a Mac in
>a few years, and of course the PowerPC versions were comparatively opaque
>unless I would go to the trouble of putting Yellow Dog on them. Which I
didn't.
>But, because a co-workers' kid wanted to play a Windows game on his Macbook
>I had a chance to look at what kind of hardware is in a $1400 Apple laptop.
>The answer is pretty much the same stuff that's in a $750 Dell laptop, give
>or take a copy of iLife and a web cam on the Mac and a bigger screen on
the
>Dell.
>
>There are plenty of arguments for owning a Mac, the biggest one being personal
>preference. I was only seeking to put another of them to bed, that they
use
>bending end components that put their hardware in another class than what
>I use. Quite simply, they don't, and the move to generic Intel hardware
makes
>that quite clear.
>
>TCB
Not to worry! you can get an IT guy to upgrade the Dell lap top with a video
camera! LOL!
http://guides.macrumors.com/images/4/4b/GetAMaciSight.png
>
>I like Macs because
>>like it
>>or not they have software that I use that only runs on a Mac and I can
run
>>any
>>software that runs on XP on it as well and from were i sit thats makes
good
>>sense to me. Now if they come out with a PC version of Aperture and Logic
>>then I'll get
>>a PC. Sure I'd like to run OSX on a PC,but hating Steve Jobs is not going
>>to stop me
>>from using the software I want. Remember the old saying,"Find the software
>>you want to use and pick the platform that supports it" The Mac supports
>>both
>>platforms.
>>
>>respect
>>Nappy
>>
>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>How many tracks can that webcam record and play back?
>>>
>>>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:45aa864c$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> And a web cam built in it.
>>>>
>>>> "Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>The Macbooks have core duo 2 cpu's,try again.
>>>>>
>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us& cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bndwe4j&s=bsd
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Core Duo laptop, 15.4" screen, DVD burner, 1 GB memory. $750
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There are better deals on occasion but this is the current sweet spot.
>>>> I
>>>>>>set up two of them last week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hey Thad! I was checking Dell's prices, I didn't see any Core 2 Duo
>>lap
>>>>>>tops
>>>>>>>for $750.00. I could be wrong, but it looks like they start at $1299.
>>>>>
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>wonder what they would cost similarly configured?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think Apple typically makes more margin per unit, well that's what
>>
>>>>>>>I've
>>>>>>>read. As a dealer margins were always tight. In the past Apple
>>>>>>>manufactured
>>>>>>>proprietary hardware, and they just didn't sell the number of units
>>that
>>>>>>>PC manufactures did to have low prices. With Intel, it's a whole
new
>>>> ball
>>>>>>>game for Apple. I would think Dell still buys 10 times as much stuff
>>>> from
>>>>>>>Intel as Apple does. Dell probably gets better pricing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have seen Dell do a thousand dollar rebate on their lap tops. When
>>>> that
>>>>>>>happens, Apple will not be able to compete.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/notebooks ?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That's right, Jamie, I finally noticed that Apple is using Intel
>>>>>>>>processors.
>>>>>>>>You know me, never up on much in that wild and crazy world of tech.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My point, which I stated fairly clearly, was that I have often heard
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>argument made that the reason Apple hardware is pricier than an
>>>>>>>>equivalent
>>>>>>>>Dell or home build is because they use superior components in their
>>
>>>>>>>>machines.
>>>>>>>>That's nonsense. Having seen their 'low end' laptop which runs about
>>>> $1300
>>>>>>>>I can say for sure that aside from the slot loading optical drive
>and
>>>>>a
>>>>>>>nice
>>>>>>>>black case it's a slight downgrade from a $750 Dell. If the optical
>>
>>>>>>>>drive
>>>>>>>>and case are worth 45% more to you, than that's fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>BTW - Debian Etch is relatively easy get working on these. If I had
>>
>>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>>money than sense I'd get one as a Debian machine because it's black.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Where's the fuel? You mean you finally noticed that Apple has gone
>>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Intel for hardware designs, and onboard graphics on the low end
>>>>>>>>>models?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>This is pretty old news. When Apple announced the Intel switch more
>>>> than
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>a year ago, this was one of the reasons given. The Macbook is their
>>>> low
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>end laptop, and probably the biggest cost reduction was using the
>>>>>>>>>onboard graphics instead of something snazzier. The Macbook Pro
has
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>snazzier stuff, but it's still off the shelf with OSX drivers. Apple
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>doesn't and hasn't ever AFAIK developed their own graphics chipsets.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Well heck, they don't develop their own CPUs either, although I
>>>>>>>>>imagine
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>they give input to those companies. Up until last year Apple chose
>>>>>>>>>different CPU models than were blessed by Microsoft, and tried to
>>gain
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>an advantage from the differences. Now they are using the same CPUs
>>>> that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Microsoft likes, so any advantage is going to be from design and
>
>>>>>>>>>software.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I like Apple's desktop case design. Really easy to get into and
change
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>memory, drives, etc.; quiet and cool running airflow. The laptop
>
>>>>>>>>>designs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>have varied at accessibility, sometimes compromising for thinness.
>>For
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>example my PowerBook is easy to access for memory upgrades but not
>>for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>HD upgrades. That may have changed in the new ones.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mac laptop sales are rising, other manufacturers are copying their
>>
>>>>>>>>>form
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>factor, but if you ever buy one (other than overpaying for a Macbook
>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>someone else, and then complaining about it) I'll be amazed. Sorry
>>you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>had to subject yourself to working on a Mac today, but even sorrier
>>>> you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>had to infect it with XP. ;^)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>TCB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> So, I had to set up XP on a Mac Book today. The child of an
>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>person
>>>>>>>>>> on my office had one and, surprise, most of the games a 12 year
>>old
>>>>>>likes
>>>>>>>>>> to play don't have Mac versions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So, once and for all I can put to rest the notion that Apple
>>>>>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>> somehow 'super special' and thus justifies the higher price. Intel
>>>>>chipset,
>>>>>>>>>> Intel integrated graphics, Atheros wireless, Marvell NIC, generic
>>>> firewire
>>>>>>>>>> controller. The CD/DVD burner was the slot loading kind, so that's
>>>>>slightly
>>>>>>>>>> cool (unless you want to pop out the CD before the machine boots
>>
>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>>>>> nice to have a physical switch), but that's about the only thing
>>
>>>>>>>>>> unusual
>>>>>>>>>> about the hardware. If you were to show me the XP device list
for
>>>> a
>>>>>>Mac
>>>>>>>>Book
>>>>>>>>>> and the same list from a Dell 640m (two of which I've also set
>up
>>>> recently)
>>>>>>>>>> I would have given a _slight_ preference to the Dell, mostly because
>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>uses
>>>>>>>>>> an Intel wireless chipset that does b/g/n and bluetooth on one
>chip,
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>> I've had very good luck with those wireless cards. A 640m also
>has
>>>>>a
>>>>>>>larger
>>>>>>>>>> screed and costs around $750.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In better news, I wound up on modular synth dreamland for about
>>five
>>>>>>>hours
>>>>>>>>>> last night, wiring up my John Bowen Pro Wave into modular patches
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>using
>>>>>>>>>> it to feed vocoders and all of the things that make computer
>>>>>>>>>> recording
>>>>>>>>worth
>>>>>>>>>> it. Then I forgot to save the presets, but hey, that's the way
>it
>>>> goes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
---=_linux45ac0d1a
Content-Type: image/png; name="GetAMaciSight.png"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="GetAMaciSight.png"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---=_linux45ac0d1a--
|
|
|
|
Goto Forum:
Current Time: Sun Nov 10 10:21:04 PST 2024
Total time taken to generate the page: 0.01487 seconds
|
The PARIS Forums
Search
Help
Members
Register
Login
Home
