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| Re: Windows XP on the new Macs [message #75180 is a reply to message #75165] |
Mon, 30 October 2006 16:53   |
Nappy
Messages: 198
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So Apple hardware is like a Bentley? Hmmm....
You seem to be missing the point. Being able to run both Mac and PC apps
on the same box is a bad thing? I'm glad you are happy running Debian.
Can you run the same apps that most of us run with it? Please name the apps
that will replace Nuendo,DP,Logic,Wavelab,Live,Reason etc.....
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>Buying Apple hardware and putting XP on it is like buying a Bentley and
retrofitting
>it with 4.0 vinyl seats (running SP5), tearing out the CD player and putting
>in an AM radio with 3.1 sound, installing 4 cylinder engine from a 1995
Civic,
>and then roughing up the paint job.
>
>Then again, getting whatever Dell has on sale this week and putting Debian
>on it is like getting one of those 007 cars that shoots missiles and disappears
>under the couch and jumps canyons and shit, except that it runs on solar
>power and other people fix it for free.
>
>TCB
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>This article has some insight and some buying tips for those who are interested.
>>
>> http://www.dailypress.com/business/local/dp-64659sy0oct30,0, 4121772.story?coll=dp-business-localheads
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| Re: Windows XP on the new Macs [message #75216 is a reply to message #75180] |
Tue, 31 October 2006 08:02 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Bentley = stylish but overpriced. A luxury item.
On my debian machines I can run nearly all of the apps that I use everywhere.
As I've said, oh, 15,000 times, GNU\linux is not yet a viable platform for
realtime multimedia creation, i.e. audio and video. Ardour is a step in the
right direction, but it's not there yet. Then again, three years ago one
could have said 'but there's no viable alternative to MS Office for debian.'
Today when I'm at work and have an old Office/WP/Lotus Notes/etc file I can't
open in Office 2003 I open it in OpenOffice.org and save it as a new file
type. So, we'll see how long it is until I can use the audio equivalent of
blender or the gimp.
TCB
"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
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>So Apple hardware is like a Bentley? Hmmm....
>You seem to be missing the point. Being able to run both Mac and PC apps
>on the same box is a bad thing? I'm glad you are happy running Debian.
>Can you run the same apps that most of us run with it? Please name the apps
>that will replace Nuendo,DP,Logic,Wavelab,Live,Reason etc.....
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>>Buying Apple hardware and putting XP on it is like buying a Bentley and
>retrofitting
>>it with 4.0 vinyl seats (running SP5), tearing out the CD player and putting
>>in an AM radio with 3.1 sound, installing 4 cylinder engine from a 1995
>Civic,
>>and then roughing up the paint job.
>>
>>Then again, getting whatever Dell has on sale this week and putting Debian
>>on it is like getting one of those 007 cars that shoots missiles and disappears
>>under the couch and jumps canyons and shit, except that it runs on solar
>>power and other people fix it for free.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>>This article has some insight and some buying tips for those who are interested.
>>>
>>> http://www.dailypress.com/business/local/dp-64659sy0oct30,0, 4121772.story?coll=dp-business-localheads
>>
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| Re: Windows XP on the new Macs [message #75219 is a reply to message #75216] |
Tue, 31 October 2006 08:08 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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Linux marches on. Three years from now, who knows. I expect good things
to come. Most of the great and someday great open source programs also
run on OSX so the transition between OSX and Linux is easy.
These days Macs are like Toyotas. Models in different price brackets.
Good engineering, generally well built and reliable. Handles well, fun
to drive.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
TCB wrote:
> Bentley = stylish but overpriced. A luxury item.
>
> On my debian machines I can run nearly all of the apps that I use everywhere.
> As I've said, oh, 15,000 times, GNU\linux is not yet a viable platform for
> realtime multimedia creation, i.e. audio and video. Ardour is a step in the
> right direction, but it's not there yet. Then again, three years ago one
> could have said 'but there's no viable alternative to MS Office for debian.'
> Today when I'm at work and have an old Office/WP/Lotus Notes/etc file I can't
> open in Office 2003 I open it in OpenOffice.org and save it as a new file
> type. So, we'll see how long it is until I can use the audio equivalent of
> blender or the gimp.
>
> TCB
>
> "Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>> So Apple hardware is like a Bentley? Hmmm....
>> You seem to be missing the point. Being able to run both Mac and PC apps
>> on the same box is a bad thing? I'm glad you are happy running Debian.
>> Can you run the same apps that most of us run with it? Please name the apps
>> that will replace Nuendo,DP,Logic,Wavelab,Live,Reason etc.....
>>
>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>> Buying Apple hardware and putting XP on it is like buying a Bentley and
>> retrofitting
>>> it with 4.0 vinyl seats (running SP5), tearing out the CD player and putting
>>> in an AM radio with 3.1 sound, installing 4 cylinder engine from a 1995
>> Civic,
>>> and then roughing up the paint job.
>>>
>>> Then again, getting whatever Dell has on sale this week and putting Debian
>>> on it is like getting one of those 007 cars that shoots missiles and disappears
>>> under the couch and jumps canyons and shit, except that it runs on solar
>>> power and other people fix it for free.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> This article has some insight and some buying tips for those who are interested.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.dailypress.com/business/local/dp-64659sy0oct30,0, 4121772.story?coll=dp-business-localheads
>
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| Re: Windows XP on the new Macs [message #75260 is a reply to message #75216] |
Wed, 01 November 2006 12:32 |
Nappy
Messages: 198
Registered: September 2006
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15,000 times...?
Why do you keep talking about Debian as if its a viable platform?
As for Macs being luxury items,for Audio/Video professional a Mac
is priced very competitive. The components for a Mac Pro come
to about $2400 before shipping. Were talking Dual Xeon's. Check
your best PC builders and see if they can beat the price of the Mac Pro.
And then add the fact that you can run both XP and OSX on the Mac(this is
what we all us)
makes it a better value. Unless you are of the mindset like yours of
getting by with the cheapest solution you can find. This is a audio
newsgroup,why all the talk about opening "old Office/WP/Lotus Notes/etc file"How
many here have that problem or care? What platform do you use for audio?
I would like to be able to use all the tools availble if need be,and if I
can do it
with one box thats all the better.
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>Bentley = stylish but overpriced. A luxury item.
>
>On my debian machines I can run nearly all of the apps that I use everywhere.
>As I've said, oh, 15,000 times, GNU\linux is not yet a viable platform for
>realtime multimedia creation, i.e. audio and video. Ardour is a step in
the
>right direction, but it's not there yet. Then again, three years ago one
>could have said 'but there's no viable alternative to MS Office for debian.'
>Today when I'm at work and have an old Office/WP/Lotus Notes/etc file I
can't
>open in Office 2003 I open it in OpenOffice.org and save it as a new file
>type. So, we'll see how long it is until I can use the audio equivalent
of
>blender or the gimp.
>
>TCB
>
>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>So Apple hardware is like a Bentley? Hmmm....
>>You seem to be missing the point. Being able to run both Mac and PC apps
>>on the same box is a bad thing? I'm glad you are happy running Debian.
>>Can you run the same apps that most of us run with it? Please name the
apps
>>that will replace Nuendo,DP,Logic,Wavelab,Live,Reason etc.....
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Buying Apple hardware and putting XP on it is like buying a Bentley and
>>retrofitting
>>>it with 4.0 vinyl seats (running SP5), tearing out the CD player and putting
>>>in an AM radio with 3.1 sound, installing 4 cylinder engine from a 1995
>>Civic,
>>>and then roughing up the paint job.
>>>
>>>Then again, getting whatever Dell has on sale this week and putting Debian
>>>on it is like getting one of those 007 cars that shoots missiles and disappears
>>>under the couch and jumps canyons and shit, except that it runs on solar
>>>power and other people fix it for free.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>This article has some insight and some buying tips for those who are
interested.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.dailypress.com/business/local/dp-64659sy0oct30,0, 4121772.story?coll=dp-business-localheads
>>>
>>
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| Re: Windows XP on the new Macs [message #75435 is a reply to message #75165] |
Sun, 05 November 2006 15:05 |
Paul Braun
Messages: 391
Registered: September 2005
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On 31 Oct 2006 08:15:59 +1000, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>Buying Apple hardware and putting XP on it is like buying a Bentley and retrofitting
>it with 4.0 vinyl seats (running SP5), tearing out the CD player and putting
>in an AM radio with 3.1 sound, installing 4 cylinder engine from a 1995 Civic,
>and then roughing up the paint job.
My MacBook Pro will be here tomorrow.
I'm loading XP under Parallels on it as soon as it's up and running
and all updated on the Tiger side.
Why?
Because I have apps that are Windoze-only that I need to run, even
when I'm away from the house.
I look at it as a replacement for my Powerbook G3 Pismo and my
ThinkPad all in one shiny box.
In the studio/office, I have both an Athlon/XP box and a dual G4/Tiger
box. I have reasons for both.
I couldn't travel with my Powerbook, because DeLorme's gps
software/hardware combo won't run on PPC Macs. That's the killer app
that kept me lugging my Thinkpad on trips. That, plus a few other
apps.
Now, I can run the gps stuff under XP on a virtual machine, and then
run OSX for almost everything else. And when I'm at a race with the
team I'm webmaster for, I can run my copy of Adobe GoLive CS2, which I
only have in Windoze flavor, and do updates while I'm there.
It's a best of both worlds thing, not "XP running on a Bentley". It's
more like having a Bentley with two different engines that you can
choose with a little pushbutton, dependin on what you need at the
time.
pab
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