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| Fruit computer final [message #74302] |
Tue, 17 October 2006 11:23  |
TCB
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Went to CompUSA last night, they didn't have the white MacBook so I had to
get the $1499 black one. Spec'd a core duo Dell 640m to as close as I could
get it. $944 for the same CPU, twice as much RAM (though still 2x512 and
not a single 1gb stick), one inch larger screen. Ran the updates on OS X.FurryCritter
and there was a 300MB(!!!) OS patch waiting. Are they recompiling everything
from (new) source? Wow.
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| Re: Fruit computer final [message #74312 is a reply to message #74306] |
Tue, 17 October 2006 12:09  |
Jamie K
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The Macbook has things the Dell doesn't have, the Dell has things the
Macbook doesn't have. It sounds like you'd be more comfortable buying
the Dell. You must be a good friend to suck it up and buy what your
friend wants instead of what you want... :^)
Too bad the CompUSA you walked into had such little choice. You could
have spent less on a Macbook by going to another store with more stock,
by going online like you'd do with the Dell or by following some of the
other advice in this thread.
Damn Apple for providing such a significant update (probably a combined
update from several rounds completed since that laptop shipped). Those
scurvy bastards!
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
TCB wrote:
> The black one has 2.0 Ghz dual cores and a 20 gb larger hard drive. Bumping
> the Dell to 2.0 was over $200 of the upgrade price so the Dell actually does
> better in terms of bang for buck vs. the $1299 model.
>
> I'm all for patches, but what kind of patch takes 300MB? Service Pack 2,
> the most bloated piece of M$oft crap ever wasn't even that big.
>
> TCB
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> You paid extra for black. I guess some people think it's worth it but I
>
>> would go with white. About $500 less here:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000EPJNHW/weeno/103- 7748545-1896629?%5Fencoding=UTF8&camp=1789&link%5Fco de=xm2
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>> That's a big update alright. On the bright side, Apple has been
>> consistent with regular free updates during each dev cycle and OSX is
>> better for it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> TCB wrote:
>>> Went to CompUSA last night, they didn't have the white MacBook so I had
> to
>>> get the $1499 black one. Spec'd a core duo Dell 640m to as close as I
> could
>>> get it. $944 for the same CPU, twice as much RAM (though still 2x512 and
>>> not a single 1gb stick), one inch larger screen. Ran the updates on OS
> X.FurryCritter
>>> and there was a 300MB(!!!) OS patch waiting. Are they recompiling everything
>>> from (new) source? Wow.
>
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| Re: Fruit computer final [message #74313 is a reply to message #74306] |
Tue, 17 October 2006 12:14 |
Tony Benson
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Was the 300MB just for OSX, or was it the OS plus iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie,
Garage Band, Mail, Safari, etc., etc.? When Software Update runs on a Mac,
it looks for updates to all the bundled software. I have my Macs set up to
check for updates once a day, and have never had a single OS update alone
run over 20MB or so, as far as I can recall. Now, if the software was a
couple of updates old, and included all the bundled stuff, I can see how it
may have been pretty big. Subsequent updates should be much more reasonable
in size.
Tony
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:4535243d$1@linux...
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> The black one has 2.0 Ghz dual cores and a 20 gb larger hard drive.
> Bumping
> the Dell to 2.0 was over $200 of the upgrade price so the Dell actually
> does
> better in terms of bang for buck vs. the $1299 model.
>
> I'm all for patches, but what kind of patch takes 300MB? Service Pack 2,
> the most bloated piece of M$oft crap ever wasn't even that big.
>
> TCB
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>
>>You paid extra for black. I guess some people think it's worth it but I
>
>>would go with white. About $500 less here:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000EPJNHW/weeno/103- 7748545-1896629?%5Fencoding=UTF8&camp=1789&link%5Fco de=xm2
>>
>>That's a big update alright. On the bright side, Apple has been
>>consistent with regular free updates during each dev cycle and OSX is
>>better for it.
>>
>>Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>TCB wrote:
>>> Went to CompUSA last night, they didn't have the white MacBook so I had
> to
>>> get the $1499 black one. Spec'd a core duo Dell 640m to as close as I
> could
>>> get it. $944 for the same CPU, twice as much RAM (though still 2x512 and
>>> not a single 1gb stick), one inch larger screen. Ran the updates on OS
> X.FurryCritter
>>> and there was a 300MB(!!!) OS patch waiting. Are they recompiling
>>> everything
>>> from (new) source? Wow.
>
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| Re: Fruit computer final [message #74315 is a reply to message #74313] |
Tue, 17 October 2006 12:10 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
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OS X only, the others (all 11 of them) were between 5 and 60 MB.
TCB
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>Was the 300MB just for OSX, or was it the OS plus iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie,
>Garage Band, Mail, Safari, etc., etc.? When Software Update runs on a Mac,
>it looks for updates to all the bundled software. I have my Macs set up
to
>check for updates once a day, and have never had a single OS update alone
>run over 20MB or so, as far as I can recall. Now, if the software was a
>couple of updates old, and included all the bundled stuff, I can see how
it
>may have been pretty big. Subsequent updates should be much more reasonable
>in size.
>
>Tony
>
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:4535243d$1@linux...
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>> The black one has 2.0 Ghz dual cores and a 20 gb larger hard drive.
>> Bumping
>> the Dell to 2.0 was over $200 of the upgrade price so the Dell actually
>> does
>> better in terms of bang for buck vs. the $1299 model.
>>
>> I'm all for patches, but what kind of patch takes 300MB? Service Pack
2,
>> the most bloated piece of M$oft crap ever wasn't even that big.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>You paid extra for black. I guess some people think it's worth it but
I
>>
>>>would go with white. About $500 less here:
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000EPJNHW/weeno/103- 7748545-1896629?%5Fencoding=UTF8&camp=1789&link%5Fco de=xm2
>>>
>>>That's a big update alright. On the bright side, Apple has been
>>>consistent with regular free updates during each dev cycle and OSX is
>>>better for it.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>TCB wrote:
>>>> Went to CompUSA last night, they didn't have the white MacBook so I
had
>> to
>>>> get the $1499 black one. Spec'd a core duo Dell 640m to as close as
I
>> could
>>>> get it. $944 for the same CPU, twice as much RAM (though still 2x512
and
>>>> not a single 1gb stick), one inch larger screen. Ran the updates on
OS
>> X.FurryCritter
>>>> and there was a 300MB(!!!) OS patch waiting. Are they recompiling
>>>> everything
>>>> from (new) source? Wow.
>>
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| Re: Fruit computer final [message #74316 is a reply to message #74311] |
Tue, 17 October 2006 12:19 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
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That's the best bang/buck MacBook at the moment I think. But yes, if you
need a superdrive you'd have to go with a superdrive model.
Still you can get a better deal on any of the models by looking around a
bit: Amazon's rebate, the free extra RAM/peripheral deals, refurb,
developer/edu deals if appropriate or sales - some of the ideas we both
suggested earlier.
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
James McCloskey wrote:
> Jamie, there's no superDrive on that one.
>
> James
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> You paid extra for black. I guess some people think it's worth it but I
>
>> would go with white. About $500 less here:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000EPJNHW/weeno/103- 7748545-1896629?%5Fencoding=UTF8&camp=1789&link%5Fco de=xm2
>>
>> That's a big update alright. On the bright side, Apple has been
>> consistent with regular free updates during each dev cycle and OSX is
>> better for it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> TCB wrote:
>>> Went to CompUSA last night, they didn't have the white MacBook so I had
> to
>>> get the $1499 black one. Spec'd a core duo Dell 640m to as close as I
> could
>>> get it. $944 for the same CPU, twice as much RAM (though still 2x512 and
>>> not a single 1gb stick), one inch larger screen. Ran the updates on OS
> X.FurryCritter
>>> and there was a 300MB(!!!) OS patch waiting. Are they recompiling everything
>>> from (new) source? Wow.
>
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| Re: Fruit computer final [message #74321 is a reply to message #74315] |
Tue, 17 October 2006 12:40 |
Tony Benson
Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006
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Wow! The software on that MacBook must have been several updates old. Even
at that it seems too huge. I have no explanation. At any rate, future
updates should be much smaller. Geez, I would hope anyway! :>)
Tony
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45352aaf@linux...
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> OS X only, the others (all 11 of them) were between 5 and 60 MB.
>
> TCB
>
> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>Was the 300MB just for OSX, or was it the OS plus iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie,
>
>>Garage Band, Mail, Safari, etc., etc.? When Software Update runs on a Mac,
>
>>it looks for updates to all the bundled software. I have my Macs set up
> to
>>check for updates once a day, and have never had a single OS update alone
>
>>run over 20MB or so, as far as I can recall. Now, if the software was a
>
>>couple of updates old, and included all the bundled stuff, I can see how
> it
>>may have been pretty big. Subsequent updates should be much more
>>reasonable
>
>>in size.
>>
>>Tony
>>
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:4535243d$1@linux...
>>>
>>> The black one has 2.0 Ghz dual cores and a 20 gb larger hard drive.
>>> Bumping
>>> the Dell to 2.0 was over $200 of the upgrade price so the Dell actually
>
>>> does
>>> better in terms of bang for buck vs. the $1299 model.
>>>
>>> I'm all for patches, but what kind of patch takes 300MB? Service Pack
> 2,
>>> the most bloated piece of M$oft crap ever wasn't even that big.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>You paid extra for black. I guess some people think it's worth it but
> I
>>>
>>>>would go with white. About $500 less here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000EPJNHW/weeno/103- 7748545-1896629?%5Fencoding=UTF8&camp=1789&link%5Fco de=xm2
>>>>
>>>>That's a big update alright. On the bright side, Apple has been
>>>>consistent with regular free updates during each dev cycle and OSX is
>>>>better for it.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>TCB wrote:
>>>>> Went to CompUSA last night, they didn't have the white MacBook so I
> had
>>> to
>>>>> get the $1499 black one. Spec'd a core duo Dell 640m to as close as
> I
>>> could
>>>>> get it. $944 for the same CPU, twice as much RAM (though still 2x512
> and
>>>>> not a single 1gb stick), one inch larger screen. Ran the updates on
> OS
>>> X.FurryCritter
>>>>> and there was a 300MB(!!!) OS patch waiting. Are they recompiling
>>>>> everything
>>>>> from (new) source? Wow.
>>>
>>
>>
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