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why it's important to check your clock speed, 44.1 or 48 [message #92050] Fri, 26 October 2007 22:08 Go to next message
Chris Latham is currently offline  Chris Latham   UNITED STATES
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The Van Halen goof, in Greensboro, NC...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjx_GjyXCs4
Re: why it's important to check your clock speed, 44.1 or 48 [message #92059 is a reply to message #92050] Fri, 26 October 2007 23:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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OY!!!......man, what a mess!!!!

"Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> The Van Halen goof, in Greensboro, NC...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjx_GjyXCs4
>
Re: why it's important to check your clock speed, 44.1 or 48 [message #92063 is a reply to message #92050] Sat, 27 October 2007 01:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jjjjjeeeezzzzzzz man.. wonder who got fired for that one?

AA

"Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> The Van Halen goof, in Greensboro, NC...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjx_GjyXCs4
>
Re: why it's important to check your clock speed, 44.1 or 48 [message #92066 is a reply to message #92050] Sat, 27 October 2007 08:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
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Ow!

S


"Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> The Van Halen goof, in Greensboro, NC...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjx_GjyXCs4
>
Re: why it's important to check your clock speed, 44.1 or 48 [message #92070 is a reply to message #92050] Sat, 27 October 2007 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> The Van Halen goof, in Greensboro, NC...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjx_GjyXCs4
>

From another forum:

>. The last best explanation I heard was from the JWSOUND.NET forum, where a
>poster who knew someone who'd been at that show said that the live show was
>fine, and that whoever shot the video (a Van Halen-hater, I guess), had
>actually overdubbed the keys part out of tune before uploading the clip. (A
>fairly elaborate hoax, if true.) At least it explains why the band doesn't
>react, and why the keys part seem so much louder than it ought to be
>compared to the rest of the band--it had to drown out the keyboard part
>from the actual show. I'd like to believe that this is true, and that
>players as experienced as these with a professional touring crew wouldn't
>have let this actually happen, or at least go on thru a whole song (which
>appears to be the encore).<
Re: why it's important to check your clock speed, 44.1 or 48 [message #92071 is a reply to message #92070] Sat, 27 October 2007 11:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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That doesn't explain Eddie dinking around for the right key though?
AA


"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
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> "Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:4722bbcd@linux...
>> The Van Halen goof, in Greensboro, NC...
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjx_GjyXCs4
>>
>
> From another forum:
>
>>. The last best explanation I heard was from the JWSOUND.NET forum, where
>>a poster who knew someone who'd been at that show said that the live show
>>was fine, and that whoever shot the video (a Van Halen-hater, I guess),
>>had actually overdubbed the keys part out of tune before uploading the
>>clip. (A fairly elaborate hoax, if true.) At least it explains why the
>>band doesn't react, and why the keys part seem so much louder than it
>>ought to be compared to the rest of the band--it had to drown out the
>>keyboard part from the actual show. I'd like to believe that this is true,
>>and that players as experienced as these with a professional touring crew
>>wouldn't have let this actually happen, or at least go on thru a whole
>>song (which appears to be the encore).<
>
>
>
Re: why it's important to check your clock speed, 44.1 or 48 [message #92072 is a reply to message #92071] Sat, 27 October 2007 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Exactly - to me it sounds like Eddie's the ONLY one out of
tune. Dave's singing in key with the synth - can't really hear
the bass all that well, but what little bits of it I can hear
don't sound like they're off from Dave & the synth.

Is it possible Eddie broke a string & it threw his floating
trem out of balance?

Neil



"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>That doesn't explain Eddie dinking around for the right key though?
>AA
>
>
>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
>news:47237ac1@linux...
>>
>> "Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:4722bbcd@linux...
>>> The Van Halen goof, in Greensboro, NC...
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjx_GjyXCs4
>>>
>>
>> From another forum:
>>
>>>. The last best explanation I heard was from the JWSOUND.NET forum, where

>>>a poster who knew someone who'd been at that show said that the live show

>>>was fine, and that whoever shot the video (a Van Halen-hater, I guess),

>>>had actually overdubbed the keys part out of tune before uploading the

>>>clip. (A fairly elaborate hoax, if true.) At least it explains why the

>>>band doesn't react, and why the keys part seem so much louder than it

>>>ought to be compared to the rest of the band--it had to drown out the

>>>keyboard part from the actual show. I'd like to believe that this is true,

>>>and that players as experienced as these with a professional touring crew

>>>wouldn't have let this actually happen, or at least go on thru a whole

>>>song (which appears to be the encore).<
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: why it's important to check your clock speed, 44.1 or 48 [message #92073 is a reply to message #92071] Sat, 27 October 2007 11:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
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> That doesn't explain Eddie dinking around for the right key though?
> AA
>
>

Or DLR (trying to) sing in tune with the keyboard track
Re: why it's important to check your clock speed, 44.1 or 48 [message #92074 is a reply to message #92072] Sat, 27 October 2007 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Neil" <OIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:472384cd$1@linux...
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> Exactly - to me it sounds like Eddie's the ONLY one out of
> tune. Dave's singing in key with the synth - can't really hear
> the bass all that well, but what little bits of it I can hear
> don't sound like they're off from Dave & the synth.
>
> Is it possible Eddie broke a string & it threw his floating
> trem out of balance?
>
> Neil
>
>
Don't you think a tech w2ould have had another axe out there in a heartbeat
if this would have happened? It seems like a total cluster **** on the part
of one of the live crew....who is probably looking for another job right
now.
Re: why it's important to check your clock speed, 44.1 or 48 [message #92075 is a reply to message #92072] Sat, 27 October 2007 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Neil" <OIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:472384cd$1@linux...
>
> Exactly - to me it sounds like Eddie's the ONLY one out of
> tune. Dave's singing in key with the synth - can't really hear
> the bass all that well, but what little bits of it I can hear
> don't sound like they're off from Dave & the synth.
>
> Is it possible Eddie broke a string & it threw his floating
> trem out of balance?
>
> Neil
>

Neil,

Here's some interesting analysis.....

http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fi ght/
Re: why it's important to check your clock speed, 44.1 or 48 [message #92076 is a reply to message #92071] Sat, 27 October 2007 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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I've been looking at this for a the last 1/2 hr or so, and I believe it was
an Eddie problem. After reviewing other shows, the keys aren't out. The gtr
in Greensboro is. I can see EVH constantly screwing with his Floyd's tuners
at Greensboro.
Why he didn't have a tech get him another gtr is beyond me :(

AA


"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
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> That doesn't explain Eddie dinking around for the right key though?
> AA
>
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
> news:47237ac1@linux...
>>
>> "Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:4722bbcd@linux...
>>> The Van Halen goof, in Greensboro, NC...
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjx_GjyXCs4
>>>
>>
>> From another forum:
>>
>>>. The last best explanation I heard was from the JWSOUND.NET forum, where
>>>a poster who knew someone who'd been at that show said that the live show
>>>was fine, and that whoever shot the video (a Van Halen-hater, I guess),
>>>had actually overdubbed the keys part out of tune before uploading the
>>>clip. (A fairly elaborate hoax, if true.) At least it explains why the
>>>band doesn't react, and why the keys part seem so much louder than it
>>>ought to be compared to the rest of the band--it had to drown out the
>>>keyboard part from the actual show. I'd like to believe that this is
>>>true, and that players as experienced as these with a professional
>>>touring crew wouldn't have let this actually happen, or at least go on
>>>thru a whole song (which appears to be the encore).<
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: why it's important to check your clock speed, 44.1 or 48 [message #92077 is a reply to message #92076] Sat, 27 October 2007 14:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Latham is currently offline  Chris Latham   UNITED STATES
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I listened to the video, and then A/B'd it again the record on iTunes, and
the concert keyboard part is definately sharp compared to the original
recording.

CL
Re: why it's important to check your clock speed, 44.1 or 48 [message #92088 is a reply to message #92073] Sun, 28 October 2007 00:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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FWIW, listen to "Aint Talkin' 'Bout Love" from the same show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkX35O7H3Jc

No keys, but the guitar is still flat compared to the bass, which
is more clearly heard in this clip.

My guess is that the guitar tech used an uncalibrated tuner.

Kim

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:47238151@linux...
>> That doesn't explain Eddie dinking around for the right key though?
>> AA
>>
>>
>
>Or DLR (trying to) sing in tune with the keyboard track
>
>
Re: why it's important to check your clock speed, 44.1 or 48 [message #92089 is a reply to message #92088] Sat, 27 October 2007 23:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dude..........you're sooo right. Man.........that's horrible.


"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:47242b56$1@linux...
>
> FWIW, listen to "Aint Talkin' 'Bout Love" from the same show.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkX35O7H3Jc
>
> No keys, but the guitar is still flat compared to the bass, which
> is more clearly heard in this clip.
>
> My guess is that the guitar tech used an uncalibrated tuner.
>
> Kim
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>news:47238151@linux...
>>> That doesn't explain Eddie dinking around for the right key though?
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Or DLR (trying to) sing in tune with the keyboard track
>>
>>
>
Re: why it's important to check your clock speed, 44.1 or 48 [message #92090 is a reply to message #92089] Sun, 28 October 2007 01:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Geez, the guitar ain't even in tune with itself on that one!

You can take the band out of the garage, but you can't take
the garage out of the band. LOL

Neil


"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Dude..........you're sooo right. Man.........that's horrible.
>
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:47242b56$1@linux...
>>
>> FWIW, listen to "Aint Talkin' 'Bout Love" from the same show.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkX35O7H3Jc
>>
>> No keys, but the guitar is still flat compared to the bass, which
>> is more clearly heard in this clip.
>>
>> My guess is that the guitar tech used an uncalibrated tuner.
>>
>> Kim
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>news:47238151@linux...
>>>> That doesn't explain Eddie dinking around for the right key though?
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Or DLR (trying to) sing in tune with the keyboard track
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: why it's important to check your clock speed, 44.1 or 48 [message #92092 is a reply to message #92090] Sun, 28 October 2007 01:12 Go to previous message
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LOL.
It begs a scary question... Was the whole gig like that??

"Neil" <OIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>Geez, the guitar ain't even in tune with itself on that one!
>
>You can take the band out of the garage, but you can't take
>the garage out of the band. LOL
>
>Neil
>
>
>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>Dude..........you're sooo right. Man.........that's horrible.
>>
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:47242b56$1@linux...
>>>
>>> FWIW, listen to "Aint Talkin' 'Bout Love" from the same show.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkX35O7H3Jc
>>>
>>> No keys, but the guitar is still flat compared to the bass, which
>>> is more clearly heard in this clip.
>>>
>>> My guess is that the guitar tech used an uncalibrated tuner.
>>>
>>> Kim
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>news:47238151@linux...
>>>>> That doesn't explain Eddie dinking around for the right key though?
>>>>> AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Or DLR (trying to) sing in tune with the keyboard track
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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