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Clocking [message #99377]

Sun, 29 June 2008 13:05

damien.gelee

Messages: 36
Registered: July 2006

Member

I use Paris for tracking.
i'd like to know your feedback when clocking paris externaly (advvark, big
ben..)
What kind of improvement did you notice ? was it subtle, or night and day ?

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Re: Clocking [message #99378 is a reply to message #99377]

Sun, 29 June 2008 16:18

Rod Lincoln
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Registered: September 2005

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I'm using a Gen6. The difference is subtle.
Rod
"Damien Gelee" <damien.gelee@club-internet.fr> wrote:
>I use Paris for tracking.
>i'd like to know your feedback when clocking paris externaly (advvark, big

>ben..)
>What kind of improvement did you notice ? was it subtle, or night and day
?
>
>

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Re: Clocking [message #99379 is a reply to message #99377]

Sun, 29 June 2008 16:48

kerryg

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Registered: February 2009

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Administrator

I'm interested in hearing if people have tried the Black Lion Audio
Microclock, and if so what the results have been.

http://www.blacklionaudio.com/microclock.html

- Kerry

On 6/29/08 1:05 PM, in article 4867ed1a@linux, "Damien Gelee"
<damien.gelee@club-internet.fr> wrote:

> I use Paris for tracking.
> i'd like to know your feedback when clocking paris externaly (advvark, big
> ben..)
> What kind of improvement did you notice ? was it subtle, or night and day ?
>
>

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon

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Re: Clocking [message #99380 is a reply to message #99379]

Sun, 29 June 2008 20:17

Ted Gerber

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Registered: January 2009

Senior Member

Please try it out for us !!

"This means that we have no idea whether it will work with an early DAT machine
or first generation digital console, or whether it�s compatible with some
random digital PCI card that was manufactured in 1997."

- from the Black Lion Site

Ted

Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>I'm interested in hearing if people have tried the Black Lion Audio
>Microclock, and if so what the results have been.
>
>http://www.blacklionaudio.com/microclock.html
>
>- Kerry
>
>
>On 6/29/08 1:05 PM, in article 4867ed1a@linux, "Damien Gelee"
><damien.gelee@club-internet.fr> wrote:
>
>> I use Paris for tracking.
>> i'd like to know your feedback when clocking paris externaly (advvark,
big
>> ben..)
>> What kind of improvement did you notice ? was it subtle, or night and
day ?
>>
>>
>

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Re: Clocking [message #99382 is a reply to message #99379]

Mon, 30 June 2008 08:08

Chris Ludwig

Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006

Senior Member

HI Kerry,
Doesn't look any better than most decent sound cards word clock performance.
I can maybe see it having a positive effect on some older gear but a mid to high quality gear I have my doubts.

Chris

Kerry Galloway wrote:
> I'm interested in hearing if people have tried the Black Lion Audio
> Microclock, and if so what the results have been.
>
> http://www.blacklionaudio.com/microclock.html
>
> - Kerry
>
>
> On 6/29/08 1:05 PM, in article 4867ed1a@linux, "Damien Gelee"
> <damien.gelee@club-internet.fr> wrote:
>
>> I use Paris for tracking.
>> i'd like to know your feedback when clocking paris externaly (advvark, big
>> ben..)
>> What kind of improvement did you notice ? was it subtle, or night and day ?
>>
>>
>

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com

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Re: Clocking [message #99383 is a reply to message #99377]

Mon, 30 June 2008 08:15

Chris Ludwig

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Registered: May 2006

Senior Member

HI Damien,
It would totally depend on what gear was being run from the Word clock.
If you are trying to clock multiple MEC boxes then a Lucid Genx 6 would make more sense with the Lucid running as the master clock for the whole thing.
If you only have one MEC and are using some more recent digital with it then you would probably want to run that gear as long as is able to and is a a good quality.

Chris

Damien Gelee wrote:
> I use Paris for tracking.
> i'd like to know your feedback when clocking paris externaly (advvark, big
> ben..)
> What kind of improvement did you notice ? was it subtle, or night and day ?
>
>

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com

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Re: Clocking [message #99385 is a reply to message #99380]

Mon, 30 June 2008 12:49

kerryg

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Registered: February 2009

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Administrator

Hah, that's precisely the line that caught my eye. Maybe I will some day.

- K

On 6/29/08 8:17 PM, in article 4868502e$1@linux, "Ted Gerber"
<tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:

>
> Please try it out for us !!
>
> "This means that we have no idea whether it will work with an early DAT
> machine
> or first generation digital console, or whether it‚s compatible with some
> random digital PCI card that was manufactured in 1997."
>
> - from the Black Lion Site
>
> Ted
>
>
>
> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>> I'm interested in hearing if people have tried the Black Lion Audio
>> Microclock, and if so what the results have been.
>>
>> http://www.blacklionaudio.com/microclock.html
>>
>> - Kerry
>>
>>
>> On 6/29/08 1:05 PM, in article 4867ed1a@linux, "Damien Gelee"
>> <damien.gelee@club-internet.fr> wrote:
>>
>>> I use Paris for tracking.
>>> i'd like to know your feedback when clocking paris externaly (advvark,
> big
>>> ben..)
>>> What kind of improvement did you notice ? was it subtle, or night and
> day ?
>>>
>>>
>>
>

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon

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Re: Clocking [message #99386 is a reply to message #99383]

Mon, 30 June 2008 13:23

damien.gelee

Messages: 36
Registered: July 2006

Member

Hi Chris,

I use one MEC only, with stock 8in. I heard Paris AD are pretty good, but
also that there's some aliasing : As i'm not very happy with the high end on
the basics tracks (cymbals and voice sibillance) , i wonder if it could be
a good way to go. Of course, using better mics or pre may be the main
point. We use AT4050, and oktava LDC, SPL and yammies pre.

"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> a �crit dans le message de news:
4868faad$1@linux...
> HI Damien,
> It would totally depend on what gear was being run from the Word clock.
> If you are trying to clock multiple MEC boxes then a Lucid Genx 6 would
> make more sense with the Lucid running as the master clock for the whole
> thing.
> If you only have one MEC and are using some more recent digital with it
> then you would probably want to run that gear as long as is able to and is
> a a good quality.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Damien Gelee wrote:
>> I use Paris for tracking.
>> i'd like to know your feedback when clocking paris externaly (advvark,
>> big ben..)
>> What kind of improvement did you notice ? was it subtle, or night and day
>> ?
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>

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Re: Clocking [message #99387 is a reply to message #99386]

Mon, 30 June 2008 14:11

Chris Ludwig

Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006

Senior Member

dang it i hate when I reply to the email instead of the newsgroup when using Thunderbird.

Chris Ludwig wrote:
> Hi Damien,
>
> Damien Gelee wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> I use one MEC only, with stock 8in. I heard Paris AD are pretty good, but also that there's some aliasing : As i'm not very happy with the high end on the basics tracks (cymbals and voice sibillance) ,
> With a single MEC it "might" make a difference but as Rob stated it will be be subtle.
>
> Do you have any digital gear in your setup other than Paris?
>
> i wonder if it could be
>> a good way to go. Of course, using better mics or pre may be the main point. We use AT4050, and oktava LDC, SPL and yammies pre.
>>
>>
> Could be some of the other cause the high end issues too not sure though.
>
>
> Chris

Damien Gelee wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> I use one MEC only, with stock 8in. I heard Paris AD are pretty good, but
> also that there's some aliasing : As i'm not very happy with the high end on
> the basics tracks (cymbals and voice sibillance) , i wonder if it could be
> a good way to go. Of course, using better mics or pre may be the main
> point. We use AT4050, and oktava LDC, SPL and yammies pre.
>
>
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> a �crit dans le message de news:
> 4868faad$1@linux...
>> HI Damien,
>> It would totally depend on what gear was being run from the Word clock.
>> If you are trying to clock multiple MEC boxes then a Lucid Genx 6 would
>> make more sense with the Lucid running as the master clock for the whole
>> thing.
>> If you only have one MEC and are using some more recent digital with it
>> then you would probably want to run that gear as long as is able to and is
>> a a good quality.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Damien Gelee wrote:
>>> I use Paris for tracking.
>>> i'd like to know your feedback when clocking paris externaly (advvark,
>>> big ben..)
>>> What kind of improvement did you notice ? was it subtle, or night and day
>>> ?
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
>
>

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com

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Re: Clocking [message #99388 is a reply to message #99377]

Mon, 30 June 2008 14:40

Wayne

Messages: 206
Registered: July 2008
Location: Las Vegas

Senior Member

Last year I was using the MEC internal clock and analog outputs with an
Alesis RA-100 and Yamaha NS-10s. I changed to a Big Ben clock, a Benchmark
DAC and Adam's A7. I have a 2 EDS card system and one MEC with two 8-ins.
In each category I definitely noticed a difference and I heard improvements
to the Paris sound. With the clock I heard better low end clarity. With
the DAC I heard better overall tightness and depth. Both together gave me
better stereo imaging and tightness, especially in the low end bass and kick
drum. The A7's just made listening more enjoyable.
Wayne

"Damien Gelee" <damien.gelee@club-internet.fr> wrote in message
news:4867ed1a@linux...
>I use Paris for tracking.
> i'd like to know your feedback when clocking paris externaly (advvark, big
> ben..)
> What kind of improvement did you notice ? was it subtle, or night and day
> ?
>
>

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Re: Clocking [message #99389 is a reply to message #99383]

Mon, 30 June 2008 15:24

Ted Gerber

Messages: 705
Registered: January 2009

Senior Member

I'm going to try this, so I'll hear for myself, but do you think
using my TCM3000 as sync source (set to S/PDIF) would be an improvement over
using Paris internal?

Any one else do this?

Thanks,

Ted

Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI Damien,
>It would totally depend on what gear was being run from the Word clock.
>If you are trying to clock multiple MEC boxes then a Lucid Genx 6 would
make more sense
>with the Lucid running as the master clock for the whole thing.
>If you only have one MEC and are using some more recent digital with it
then you would
>probably want to run that gear as long as is able to and is a a good quality.
>
>Chris
>
>
>Damien Gelee wrote:
>> I use Paris for tracking.
>> i'd like to know your feedback when clocking paris externaly (advvark,
big
>> ben..)
>> What kind of improvement did you notice ? was it subtle, or night and
day ?
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com

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Re: Clocking [message #99398 is a reply to message #99387]

Tue, 01 July 2008 11:52

damien.gelee

Messages: 36
Registered: July 2006

Member

No other digital gear.

"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> a �crit dans le message de news:
48694e30$1@linux...
> dang it i hate when I reply to the email instead of the newsgroup when
> using Thunderbird.
>
> Chris Ludwig wrote:
> > Hi Damien,
> >
> > Damien Gelee wrote:
> >> Hi Chris,
> >>
> >> I use one MEC only, with stock 8in. I heard Paris AD are pretty good,
> >> but also that there's some aliasing : As i'm not very happy with the
> >> high end on the basics tracks (cymbals and voice sibillance) ,
> > With a single MEC it "might" make a difference but as Rob stated it will
> > be be subtle.
> >
> > Do you have any digital gear in your setup other than Paris?
> >
> > i wonder if it could be
> >> a good way to go. Of course, using better mics or pre may be the main
> >> point. We use AT4050, and oktava LDC, SPL and yammies pre.
> >>
> >>
> > Could be some of the other cause the high end issues too not sure
> > though.
> >
> >
> > Chris
>
>
>
> Damien Gelee wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> I use one MEC only, with stock 8in. I heard Paris AD are pretty good, but
>> also that there's some aliasing : As i'm not very happy with the high end
>> on the basics tracks (cymbals and voice sibillance) , i wonder if it
>> could be a good way to go. Of course, using better mics or pre may be
>> the main point. We use AT4050, and oktava LDC, SPL and yammies pre.
>>
>>
>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> a �crit dans le message de news:
>> 4868faad$1@linux...
>>> HI Damien,
>>> It would totally depend on what gear was being run from the Word clock.
>>> If you are trying to clock multiple MEC boxes then a Lucid Genx 6 would
>>> make more sense with the Lucid running as the master clock for the whole
>>> thing.
>>> If you only have one MEC and are using some more recent digital with it
>>> then you would probably want to run that gear as long as is able to and
>>> is a a good quality.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> Damien Gelee wrote:
>>>> I use Paris for tracking.
>>>> i'd like to know your feedback when clocking paris externaly (advvark,
>>>> big ben..)
>>>> What kind of improvement did you notice ? was it subtle, or night and
>>>> day ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>
>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>

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Re: Clocking [message #99399 is a reply to message #99388]

Tue, 01 July 2008 11:53

damien.gelee

Messages: 36
Registered: July 2006

Member

Thanks all for your inputs.

Damien

"Wayne Carson" <waynecarson@cox.net> a �crit dans le message de news:
486954cc$1@linux...
> Last year I was using the MEC internal clock and analog outputs with an
> Alesis RA-100 and Yamaha NS-10s. I changed to a Big Ben clock, a
> Benchmark DAC and Adam's A7. I have a 2 EDS card system and one MEC with
> two 8-ins. In each category I definitely noticed a difference and I heard
> improvements to the Paris sound. With the clock I heard better low end
> clarity. With the DAC I heard better overall tightness and depth. Both
> together gave me better stereo imaging and tightness, especially in the
> low end bass and kick drum. The A7's just made listening more enjoyable.
> Wayne
>
> "Damien Gelee" <damien.gelee@club-internet.fr> wrote in message
> news:4867ed1a@linux...
>>I use Paris for tracking.
>> i'd like to know your feedback when clocking paris externaly (advvark,
>> big ben..)
>> What kind of improvement did you notice ? was it subtle, or night and day
>> ?
>>
>>
>
>
>

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