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Does formatting wipe out everything? [message #84813]

Sat, 19 May 2007 10:49

Deej [4]

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I've got an old Dell laptop here that I used for a few years. It's had a
number of things on the HD over time, including some work files with
confidential info (noting that could ever be used by anyone really, but
needs to be wipedd nonetheless. Will formatting do this? I have heard that
ther4e are some *wipe* proggies that will basically render any data
unrecoverable short of the stuff that NSA uses.

Thanks,

Deej

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Re: Does formatting wipe out everything? [message #84814 is a reply to message #84813]

Sat, 19 May 2007 11:40

xpam_mark

Messages: 126
Registered: March 2007

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Deej, lets put it this way. I have recovered every piece of data off
several 80gb drives that were fully formatted, supposedly erased forever.
There is a prog or two out there which are DOD approved for wiping a drive.
I think I have one here. Lemme see if i can find it.

WMW

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:464f3a13$1@linux...
> I've got an old Dell laptop here that I used for a few years. It's had a
> number of things on the HD over time, including some work files with
> confidential info (noting that could ever be used by anyone really, but
> needs to be wipedd nonetheless. Will formatting do this? I have heard that
> ther4e are some *wipe* proggies that will basically render any data
> unrecoverable short of the stuff that NSA uses.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>
>

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Re: Does formatting wipe out everything? [message #84815 is a reply to message #84814]

Sat, 19 May 2007 11:55

John [1]
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Registered: September 2005

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How about eraser?

http://www.heidi.ie/eraser/

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Re: Does formatting wipe out everything? [message #84816 is a reply to message #84814]

Sat, 19 May 2007 11:49

Deej [4]

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Registered: January 2007

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Thanks Mark,

Appreciated. It's either an effective wipe or selling the unit without a
system drive.

Deej

"W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_mark@avidrecording> wrote in message
news:464f461b$1@linux...
> Deej, lets put it this way. I have recovered every piece of data off
> several 80gb drives that were fully formatted, supposedly erased forever.
> There is a prog or two out there which are DOD approved for wiping a
> drive. I think I have one here. Lemme see if i can find it.
>
> WMW
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:464f3a13$1@linux...
>> I've got an old Dell laptop here that I used for a few years. It's had a
>> number of things on the HD over time, including some work files with
>> confidential info (noting that could ever be used by anyone really, but
>> needs to be wipedd nonetheless. Will formatting do this? I have heard
>> that ther4e are some *wipe* proggies that will basically render any data
>> unrecoverable short of the stuff that NSA uses.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Does formatting wipe out everything? [message #84817 is a reply to message #84814]

Sat, 19 May 2007 11:52

Deej [4]

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http://www.bluestsoft.com/en/products/diskdeleterpro.html

this looks like it would do the trick

"W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_mark@avidrecording> wrote in message
news:464f461b$1@linux...
> Deej, lets put it this way. I have recovered every piece of data off
> several 80gb drives that were fully formatted, supposedly erased forever.
> There is a prog or two out there which are DOD approved for wiping a
> drive. I think I have one here. Lemme see if i can find it.
>
> WMW
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:464f3a13$1@linux...
>> I've got an old Dell laptop here that I used for a few years. It's had a
>> number of things on the HD over time, including some work files with
>> confidential info (noting that could ever be used by anyone really, but
>> needs to be wipedd nonetheless. Will formatting do this? I have heard
>> that ther4e are some *wipe* proggies that will basically render any data
>> unrecoverable short of the stuff that NSA uses.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Does formatting wipe out everything? [message #84820 is a reply to message #84816]

Sat, 19 May 2007 12:07

xpam_mark

Messages: 126
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Deej, ping me with your non-argh email account...

WMW m a r k a t a v i d r e k o r d i n g d o t c o m C instead of K

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:464f485b$1@linux...
> Thanks Mark,
>
> Appreciated. It's either an effective wipe or selling the unit without a
> system drive.
>
> Deej
>
> "W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_mark@avidrecording> wrote in message
> news:464f461b$1@linux...
>> Deej, lets put it this way. I have recovered every piece of data off
>> several 80gb drives that were fully formatted, supposedly erased forever.
>> There is a prog or two out there which are DOD approved for wiping a
>> drive. I think I have one here. Lemme see if i can find it.
>>
>> WMW
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:464f3a13$1@linux...
>>> I've got an old Dell laptop here that I used for a few years. It's had a
>>> number of things on the HD over time, including some work files with
>>> confidential info (noting that could ever be used by anyone really, but
>>> needs to be wipedd nonetheless. Will formatting do this? I have heard
>>> that ther4e are some *wipe* proggies that will basically render any data
>>> unrecoverable short of the stuff that NSA uses.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Does formatting wipe out everything? [message #84825 is a reply to message #84815]

Sat, 19 May 2007 15:08

John [1]
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Registered: September 2005

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How about eraser?

"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>
>How about eraser?
>
>http://www.heidi.ie/eraser/

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Re: Does formatting wipe out everything? [message #84832 is a reply to message #84813]

Sat, 19 May 2007 22:24

erlilo

Messages: 405
Registered: June 2005

Senior Member

There's plenty of programs to do that kind of job. Here's one of them:
http://www.v-com.com/product/SecurErase_Home.html

Erling

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:464f3a13$1@linux...
> I've got an old Dell laptop here that I used for a few years. It's had a
> number of things on the HD over time, including some work files with
> confidential info (noting that could ever be used by anyone really, but
> needs to be wipedd nonetheless. Will formatting do this? I have heard that
> ther4e are some *wipe* proggies that will basically render any data
> unrecoverable short of the stuff that NSA uses.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>
>

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Re: Does formatting wipe out everything? [message #84833 is a reply to message #84832]

Sat, 19 May 2007 22:36

Deej [4]

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"erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote in message news:464fdd30$1@linux...
> There's plenty of programs to do that kind of job. Here's one of them:
> http://www.v-com.com/product/SecurErase_Home.html
>
> Erling
>

How about eraser? :oD

Thanks Erling

;o)

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Re: Does formatting wipe out everything? [message #84834 is a reply to message #84833]

Sat, 19 May 2007 23:35

erlilo

Messages: 405
Registered: June 2005

Senior Member

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:464fdfdb$1@linux...
>
> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote in message news:464fdd30$1@linux...
>> There's plenty of programs to do that kind of job. Here's one of them:
>> http://www.v-com.com/product/SecurErase_Home.html
>>
>> Erling
>>
>
>
> How about eraser? :oD
>
> Thanks Erling
>
> ;o)
>
>
Haven't tried any of them. But I think "Eraser" is freeware and
"SecureErase" cost you some $. If they do the same job, it must be easy to
make a choice. ;oD
I'm travelling to Crete later on today for two weeks, so my head and body
are into a form for holidaygear right now;-)

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Re: Does formatting wipe out everything? [message #84844 is a reply to message #84813]

Sun, 20 May 2007 08:14

Edna Sloan

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Registered: October 2005

Senior Member

I believe Norton Utilities has one that writes zeros to the entire drive.
Edna

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:464f3a13$1@linux...
> I've got an old Dell laptop here that I used for a few years. It's had a
> number of things on the HD over time, including some work files with
> confidential info (noting that could ever be used by anyone really, but
> needs to be wipedd nonetheless. Will formatting do this? I have heard that
> ther4e are some *wipe* proggies that will basically render any data
> unrecoverable short of the stuff that NSA uses.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>
>

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Re: Does formatting wipe out everything? [message #84847 is a reply to message #84844]

Sun, 20 May 2007 08:59

Neil
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"edna" > wrote:
>I believe Norton Utilities has one that writes zeros to the entire drive.

Doesn't it have to write an equal amount of "1's", as well -
otherwise the drive would be out of phase?

:D

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Re: Does formatting wipe out everything? [message #84878 is a reply to message #84813]

Sun, 20 May 2007 21:02

TCB
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Registered: July 2007

Senior Member

Pull the drive and smash it with a hammer. That way you know for sure what's
what. It's what I do in these situations.

TCB

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>I've got an old Dell laptop here that I used for a few years. It's had a

>number of things on the HD over time, including some work files with
>confidential info (noting that could ever be used by anyone really, but

>needs to be wipedd nonetheless. Will formatting do this? I have heard that

>ther4e are some *wipe* proggies that will basically render any data
>unrecoverable short of the stuff that NSA uses.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>

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Re: Does formatting wipe out everything? [message #84955 is a reply to message #84847]

Mon, 21 May 2007 17:17

Edna Sloan

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Registered: October 2005

Senior Member

I have no idea, I've never used it, but if so, I stand corrected. . .

"Neil" <IUI@OI.com> wrote in message news:46507062$1@linux...
>
> "edna" > wrote:
>>I believe Norton Utilities has one that writes zeros to the entire drive.
>
> Doesn't it have to write an equal amount of "1's", as well -
> otherwise the drive would be out of phase?
>
> :D

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Re: Does formatting wipe out everything? [message #84962 is a reply to message #84955]

Mon, 21 May 2007 19:28

Neil
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I was just joking about the drive being "out of phase".

:)

"edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>I have no idea, I've never used it, but if so, I stand corrected. . .
>
>"Neil" <IUI@OI.com> wrote in message news:46507062$1@linux...
>>
>> "edna" > wrote:
>>>I believe Norton Utilities has one that writes zeros to the entire drive.
>>
>> Doesn't it have to write an equal amount of "1's", as well -
>> otherwise the drive would be out of phase?
>>
>> :D
>
>

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Re: Does formatting wipe out everything? [message #85007 is a reply to message #84962]

Tue, 22 May 2007 16:32

Edna Sloan

Messages: 304
Registered: October 2005

Senior Member

Thought you were...but seems like you are right about the ones and zeroes
:)

"Neil" <IUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:4652553f$1@linux...
>
> I was just joking about the drive being "out of phase".
>
> :)
>
>
>
> "edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>>I have no idea, I've never used it, but if so, I stand corrected. . .
>>
>>"Neil" <IUI@OI.com> wrote in message news:46507062$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "edna" > wrote:
>>>>I believe Norton Utilities has one that writes zeros to the entire
>>>>drive.
>>>
>>> Doesn't it have to write an equal amount of "1's", as well -
>>> otherwise the drive would be out of phase?
>>>
>>> :D
>>
>>
>

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