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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102282 is a reply to message #102274] |
Sat, 24 January 2009 09:04   |
audioguy_editout_
Messages: 249
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We have the Melodyne plugin installed on both Mac and PC... but I am
not using it with Paris, just Nuendo, Cubase and ProTools.
David.
Very Deep Productions wrote:
> Ted, I like the idea of using the plug in and see it can be done within
> Paris, at least on a Mac. Not sure if anyone is using the plug on a PC......
> anyone?
>
> Rich
>
> "Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:49752c18$1@linux...
>> Good points. I found that I want all the "tuning" done first anyway, so I
>> would insert MDyne as the first plug each time, and
>> while you still have to be mindful that the audio is "loading up" and
>> "playing
>> from" MDyne, at least the timing and other plugin issues are taken care
>> of.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>
>> EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>>> Hey Rich,
>>>
>>> Even if it would work, the Melodyne plug-in can be very frustrating to
>>> use. It doesn't work in "real time" as you are used to the way that
>>> other plugs work... you have to load the track into the Melodyne plug
>>> first then process. This plug also does not play well with other plugs
>>> in line, you have to remove other plugs first or the captured audio will
>>> be out of time when played back. After the audio is in Melodyne, any
>>> plugs inserted before it, or edits in the edit window will have no
>>> affect because the audio is now coming from Melodyne itself. The best
>>> thing to do would be to render the audio file, open in a stand alone
>>> version (like the new Editor, Create, or Studio) process then import
>>> back into the session.
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> Very Deep Productions wrote:
>>>> Deej, so what system are you integrating Melodyne3 with..... Cubase?
>>>> Right,
>>>> I know about the digital to midi capabilities in Melodyne. Simply
>>>> amazing
>>>> technology. Are you still using Paris in any capacity? If so, have you
>> been
>>>> able to integrate Melodyne with Paris?
>>>>
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:4972b1b2$1@linux...
>>>>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>> OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for a
>> long
>>>>>> time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
>>>>>> astounding.
>>>>>> Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is functional
>> in
>>>>>> Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever that
>> is
>>>>> and
>>>>>> ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses
>>>>>> these
>>>>> file
>>>>>> formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>>>>>> mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>
>>>>> I've got the full 3.2 version and the plugin here. The ability to
>>>>> revoice
>>>>> chords will probably make for some interesting mashups. You know you
>> can
>>>>> output any blob in Melodyne3 to midi, right? You decide that P-Bass
>>>>> ain't
>>>>> working......just end it to Trilogy and turn it into whatever you want.
>>>>> Looks
>>>>> like Cubase 5 is going to have this same functionality.
>>>>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102301 is a reply to message #102252] |
Sun, 25 January 2009 11:25 |
Rich Lamanna
Messages: 316
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Don, thanks for your $0.02 CAD :-) What other program, you mean Autotune?
Rich
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49791edb@linux...
>I never found it to be a problem, a tad inconvenient transferring tracks
>between rigs but the actual process of using melodyne was very intuitive,
>unlike that other program
>
> just my $0.02 CAD
>
>
> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:497913e0@linux...
>> Dave, I see said the blind man. So you can't sync Melodyne and a DAW in
>> real time, didn't realize that.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rich
>>
>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:49763dd8@linux...
>>> The way Melodyne works, it won't happen in real time, even with two
>>> computers..
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> Very Deep Productions wrote:
>>>> Dave, looks like I'm leaning more towards Cre8 or the Studio version
>>>> after your explanation. Sounds like the plug would be difficult to work
>>>> with........ I'm still wondering if there is any reasonable method to
>>>> integrate the two programs together, ie. Paris and Melodyne, in a way
>>>> which I could hear both programs in sync., even if it required 2
>>>> separate computers synced together via word clock or MTC.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4974ee3f@linux...
>>>>> Hey Rich,
>>>>>
>>>>> Even if it would work, the Melodyne plug-in can be very frustrating to
>>>>> use. It doesn't work in "real time" as you are used to the way that
>>>>> other plugs work... you have to load the track into the Melodyne plug
>>>>> first then process. This plug also does not play well with other
>>>>> plugs in line, you have to remove other plugs first or the captured
>>>>> audio will be out of time when played back. After the audio is in
>>>>> Melodyne, any plugs inserted before it, or edits in the edit window
>>>>> will have no affect because the audio is now coming from Melodyne
>>>>> itself. The best thing to do would be to render the audio file, open
>>>>> in a stand alone version (like the new Editor, Create, or Studio)
>>>>> process then import back into the session.
>>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very Deep Productions wrote:
>>>>>> Deej, so what system are you integrating Melodyne3 with..... Cubase?
>>>>>> Right, I know about the digital to midi capabilities in Melodyne.
>>>>>> Simply amazing technology. Are you still using Paris in any capacity?
>>>>>> If so, have you been able to integrate Melodyne with Paris?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:4972b1b2$1@linux...
>>>>>>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for
>>>>>>>> a long
>>>>>>>> time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
>>>>>>>> astounding.
>>>>>>>> Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is
>>>>>>>> functional in
>>>>>>>> Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever
>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses
>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>> formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>>>>>>>> mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've got the full 3.2 version and the plugin here. The ability to
>>>>>>> revoice
>>>>>>> chords will probably make for some interesting mashups. You know you
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> output any blob in Melodyne3 to midi, right? You decide that P-Bass
>>>>>>> ain't
>>>>>>> working......just end it to Trilogy and turn it into whatever you
>>>>>>> want. Looks
>>>>>>> like Cubase 5 is going to have this same functionality.
>>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102302 is a reply to message #102281] |
Sun, 25 January 2009 11:27 |
Rich Lamanna
Messages: 316
Registered: February 2006
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Thanks Erling for your little test, so either way you have to export and
import, regardless of whether you're using the plug or not? Melodyne does
not read Paris file at all unless you convert them?
Rich
"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:497b4899$1@linux...
>
> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> skrev i melding
> news:497b2062@linux...
>
>> Erling, are you on PC or Mac?
>
> I'm on a PC.
>
>>So with the Plug you still have to import the new file created by Melodyne
>>back into Paris after processing, right?
>
> I havn't tested the Meloplugin in Paris at all since I found a solution
> that worked for me with the standalone units, before the plugin came out.
> Had a little test right now with the plugin inside Paris, as VST in
> Chainer, but it seems that the plugin can't understand PAF files at all.
> So, maybe it will work, if you're working with 16 bits wav-files inside
> Paris.
> ...and yes, I have to import the wav melo-file as a new one in Paris(that
> automatic will be PAF if it's 24 bits wav) and manually change out the old
> one in the Edit window.
>
>> But will the plug automatically open the *.paf file you're modifying
>> within Paris simply by inserting the plug into the track? If so this
>> would at least eliminate the need to render the files out of Paris.
>>
>> Rich
>
> Melodyne normally can't understand Parisfiles at all, so therefore this
> export-import thing is one of the solutions, as far as I can see.
>
> Erling
>
>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49799998@linux...
>>> Exactly what I'm doing too after seeking solutions with Melodyne in
>>> Paris the last years.
>>> Render the PAF-file to start from the beginning of the project in Paris,
>>> export it as wave,
>>> open it in Melodyne and do the tuning fixes,
>>> save arrangement(for later use if you're not satisfied) and save the
>>> audiofile from Start of reference track.
>>> The new file will allways get a new name like *.melo.wav
>>> Take away the dot before melo and save it.
>>> Import it into the Parisproject, change out the "bad" file with the new
>>> one and there you go.
>>>
>>> I had problems here to import the file with the dot, so I found out the
>>> dot solution to work for me.
>>>
>>> Erling
>>>
>>> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> skrev i melding
>>> news:49793abe@linux...
>>>> Better to do what TC said and use the Cre8 or Studio version with
>>>> reference tracks, then transfer the finished file at the end.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102303 is a reply to message #102280] |
Sun, 25 January 2009 11:31 |
Rich Lamanna
Messages: 316
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Deej, I checked it, didn't see anything. What are you selling?
Rich
"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:497b4506$1@linux...
>
> Arrrghhh!!!....sorry. I was gonna ppost to check the FS site relative to
> Melodyne.......so
> check the FS site relative to Melodyne.....
>
> ;)
>
>
>
> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
>>
>>"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>Ted, I like the idea of using the plug in and see it can be done within
>>
>>>Paris, at least on a Mac. Not sure if anyone is using the plug on a
>>>PC......
>>
>>>anyone?
>>>
>>>Rich
>>>
>>>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>news:49752c18$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Good points. I found that I want all the "tuning" done first anyway,
> so
>>I
>>>> would insert MDyne as the first plug each time, and
>>>> while you still have to be mindful that the audio is "loading up" and
>>
>>>> "playing
>>>> from" MDyne, at least the timing and other plugin issues are taken care
>>
>>>> of.
>>>>
>>>> Ted
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>>Hey Rich,
>>>>>
>>>>>Even if it would work, the Melodyne plug-in can be very frustrating to
>>>>>use. It doesn't work in "real time" as you are used to the way that
>>>>>other plugs work... you have to load the track into the Melodyne plug
>>>>>first then process. This plug also does not play well with other plugs
>>>>
>>>>>in line, you have to remove other plugs first or the captured audio
>>>>>will
>>>>
>>>>>be out of time when played back. After the audio is in Melodyne, any
>>>>>plugs inserted before it, or edits in the edit window will have no
>>>>>affect because the audio is now coming from Melodyne itself. The best
>>>>>thing to do would be to render the audio file, open in a stand alone
>>>>>version (like the new Editor, Create, or Studio) process then import
>>>>>back into the session.
>>>>>
>>>>>David.
>>>>>
>>>>>Very Deep Productions wrote:
>>>>>> Deej, so what system are you integrating Melodyne3 with..... Cubase?
>>
>>>>>> Right,
>>>>
>>>>>> I know about the digital to midi capabilities in Melodyne. Simply
>>>>>> amazing
>>>>
>>>>>> technology. Are you still using Paris in any capacity? If so, have
> you
>>>> been
>>>>>> able to integrate Melodyne with Paris?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:4972b1b2$1@linux...
>>>>>>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for
>>a
>>>> long
>>>>>>>> time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
>>>>>>>> astounding.
>>>>>>>> Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is
>>>>>>>> functional
>>>> in
>>>>>>>> Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever
> that
>>>> is
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses
>>
>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>> formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>>>>>>>> mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've got the full 3.2 version and the plugin here. The ability to
>
>>>>>>> revoice
>>>>>>> chords will probably make for some interesting mashups. You know you
>>>> can
>>>>>>> output any blob in Melodyne3 to midi, right? You decide that P-Bass
>>
>>>>>>> ain't
>>>>>>> working......just end it to Trilogy and turn it into whatever you
> want.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks
>>>>>>> like Cubase 5 is going to have this same functionality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: OT: Melyodyne - WOW! [message #102306 is a reply to message #102301] |
Sun, 25 January 2009 16:02 |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
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Senior Member |
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Yes I was speaking of Autotune..I have it and I find it very annoying to
use.
"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:497cc014$1@linux...
> Don, thanks for your $0.02 CAD :-) What other program, you mean Autotune?
>
> Rich
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49791edb@linux...
>>I never found it to be a problem, a tad inconvenient transferring tracks
>>between rigs but the actual process of using melodyne was very intuitive,
>>unlike that other program
>>
>> just my $0.02 CAD
>>
>>
>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:497913e0@linux...
>>> Dave, I see said the blind man. So you can't sync Melodyne and a DAW in
>>> real time, didn't realize that.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:49763dd8@linux...
>>>> The way Melodyne works, it won't happen in real time, even with two
>>>> computers..
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>> Very Deep Productions wrote:
>>>>> Dave, looks like I'm leaning more towards Cre8 or the Studio version
>>>>> after your explanation. Sounds like the plug would be difficult to
>>>>> work with........ I'm still wondering if there is any reasonable
>>>>> method to integrate the two programs together, ie. Paris and Melodyne,
>>>>> in a way which I could hear both programs in sync., even if it
>>>>> required 2 separate computers synced together via word clock or MTC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Rich
>>>>>
>>>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4974ee3f@linux...
>>>>>> Hey Rich,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even if it would work, the Melodyne plug-in can be very frustrating
>>>>>> to use. It doesn't work in "real time" as you are used to the way
>>>>>> that other plugs work... you have to load the track into the Melodyne
>>>>>> plug first then process. This plug also does not play well with
>>>>>> other plugs in line, you have to remove other plugs first or the
>>>>>> captured audio will be out of time when played back. After the audio
>>>>>> is in Melodyne, any plugs inserted before it, or edits in the edit
>>>>>> window will have no affect because the audio is now coming from
>>>>>> Melodyne itself. The best thing to do would be to render the audio
>>>>>> file, open in a stand alone version (like the new Editor, Create, or
>>>>>> Studio) process then import back into the session.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very Deep Productions wrote:
>>>>>>> Deej, so what system are you integrating Melodyne3 with..... Cubase?
>>>>>>> Right, I know about the digital to midi capabilities in Melodyne.
>>>>>>> Simply amazing technology. Are you still using Paris in any
>>>>>>> capacity? If so, have you been able to integrate Melodyne with
>>>>>>> Paris?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:4972b1b2$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> OMG, has anyone seen this technology? Melodyne has been around for
>>>>>>>>> a long
>>>>>>>>> time but the capabilities of these newer programs is just simply
>>>>>>>>> astounding.
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know if Melodyne cre8 or the Melodyne plugin is
>>>>>>>>> functional in
>>>>>>>>> Paris. It uses VST, AU, RTAS, DXi (via MelodyneBridge), whatever
>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> ReWire. Has anyone ever used this stuff? It also imports and uses
>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>> formats: WAV, AIFF, SD2,
>>>>>>>>> mono and stereo. This is truly amazing stuff.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=news&L=0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've got the full 3.2 version and the plugin here. The ability to
>>>>>>>> revoice
>>>>>>>> chords will probably make for some interesting mashups. You know
>>>>>>>> you can
>>>>>>>> output any blob in Melodyne3 to midi, right? You decide that P-Bass
>>>>>>>> ain't
>>>>>>>> working......just end it to Trilogy and turn it into whatever you
>>>>>>>> want. Looks
>>>>>>>> like Cubase 5 is going to have this same functionality.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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