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| Aja... [message #90752] |
Fri, 28 September 2007 19:53  |
Nei
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...is the fuckin' best recording EVER! OK, well, let's back off
a bit & say it could POSSIBLY be the best fucking recording
EVER. At the very least, it's definitely a candidate, yes? I'm
not talking about the whole album (although the whole
album is great, really, as everyone knows), I'm talking about
the seven-minute-and-fifty-five-second title cut that was
nailed on the 2nd take with no edits on the basic tracks.
Man, I'm sitting here listening to it, and I think that if
there was a way you could compare the best possible recordings
of all time from ANY genre and digest them down to some kind of
quantifiable "best sound/best playing/best execution/best
mix/best mastering" kind of combination and vote on it, "Aja"
just might win.
Freakin' GREAT sounds on every single instrument in there, as
pertains to the genre being recorded, NOTHING comes across as
abrasive, yet it's not so homogenized as to not grab your
attention, either (we've all heard mixes like that, right?).
Although, I must say "My Old School" rocks almost as hot in
that same voting contest. :D
(Yes, I'm currently in a Steely Dan mode - gotta get some
breathing space from the numetal stuff i've been spending so
much time on lately! lol)
Roger Nichols gets most of the credit for all the Steely Dan
stuff, but as I understand it, Elliot Scheiner really did most
of the basic tracks recording & also the mixdowns, so maybe
he's really the unsung hero here. Not sure if this applies to
Aja, as well, but nonetheless...
....GO LISTEN TO "AJA"!!!!
Neil
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| Re: Aja... [message #90785 is a reply to message #90752] |
Sat, 29 September 2007 09:21  |
Ted Gerber
Messages: 705
Registered: January 2009
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What he said -
Still load up the vinyl version on my VPI playing through my Beard/Counterpoint
and Maggies. Remember the first day I heard it. The sound, the playing, the
rise in intensity...
tingles
Ted
"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
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>..is the fuckin' best recording EVER! OK, well, let's back off
>a bit & say it could POSSIBLY be the best fucking recording
>EVER. At the very least, it's definitely a candidate, yes? I'm
>not talking about the whole album (although the whole
>album is great, really, as everyone knows), I'm talking about
>the seven-minute-and-fifty-five-second title cut that was
>nailed on the 2nd take with no edits on the basic tracks.
>
>Man, I'm sitting here listening to it, and I think that if
>there was a way you could compare the best possible recordings
>of all time from ANY genre and digest them down to some kind of
>quantifiable "best sound/best playing/best execution/best
>mix/best mastering" kind of combination and vote on it, "Aja"
>just might win.
>
>Freakin' GREAT sounds on every single instrument in there, as
>pertains to the genre being recorded, NOTHING comes across as
>abrasive, yet it's not so homogenized as to not grab your
>attention, either (we've all heard mixes like that, right?).
>
>Although, I must say "My Old School" rocks almost as hot in
>that same voting contest. :D
>
>(Yes, I'm currently in a Steely Dan mode - gotta get some
>breathing space from the numetal stuff i've been spending so
>much time on lately! lol)
>
>Roger Nichols gets most of the credit for all the Steely Dan
>stuff, but as I understand it, Elliot Scheiner really did most
>of the basic tracks recording & also the mixdowns, so maybe
>he's really the unsung hero here. Not sure if this applies to
>Aja, as well, but nonetheless...
>
>...GO LISTEN TO "AJA"!!!!
>
>Neil
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| Re: Aja... [message #90798 is a reply to message #90752] |
Sat, 29 September 2007 11:18 |
audioguy_editout_
Messages: 249
Registered: December 2005
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This was the first CD I bought, after wearing out SEVERAL
copies of Vinyl.
Love it.
David.
Neil wrote:
> ..is the fuckin' best recording EVER! OK, well, let's back off
> a bit & say it could POSSIBLY be the best fucking recording
> EVER. At the very least, it's definitely a candidate, yes? I'm
> not talking about the whole album (although the whole
> album is great, really, as everyone knows), I'm talking about
> the seven-minute-and-fifty-five-second title cut that was
> nailed on the 2nd take with no edits on the basic tracks.
>
> Man, I'm sitting here listening to it, and I think that if
> there was a way you could compare the best possible recordings
> of all time from ANY genre and digest them down to some kind of
> quantifiable "best sound/best playing/best execution/best
> mix/best mastering" kind of combination and vote on it, "Aja"
> just might win.
>
> Freakin' GREAT sounds on every single instrument in there, as
> pertains to the genre being recorded, NOTHING comes across as
> abrasive, yet it's not so homogenized as to not grab your
> attention, either (we've all heard mixes like that, right?).
>
> Although, I must say "My Old School" rocks almost as hot in
> that same voting contest. :D
>
> (Yes, I'm currently in a Steely Dan mode - gotta get some
> breathing space from the numetal stuff i've been spending so
> much time on lately! lol)
>
> Roger Nichols gets most of the credit for all the Steely Dan
> stuff, but as I understand it, Elliot Scheiner really did most
> of the basic tracks recording & also the mixdowns, so maybe
> he's really the unsung hero here. Not sure if this applies to
> Aja, as well, but nonetheless...
>
> ...GO LISTEN TO "AJA"!!!!
>
> Neil
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| Re: Aja... [message #90800 is a reply to message #90752] |
Sat, 29 September 2007 11:34 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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Thanks, I needed that...I'm going to pull it out listen to it right now.
Rod
"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
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>..is the fuckin' best recording EVER! OK, well, let's back off
>a bit & say it could POSSIBLY be the best fucking recording
>EVER. At the very least, it's definitely a candidate, yes? I'm
>not talking about the whole album (although the whole
>album is great, really, as everyone knows), I'm talking about
>the seven-minute-and-fifty-five-second title cut that was
>nailed on the 2nd take with no edits on the basic tracks.
>
>Man, I'm sitting here listening to it, and I think that if
>there was a way you could compare the best possible recordings
>of all time from ANY genre and digest them down to some kind of
>quantifiable "best sound/best playing/best execution/best
>mix/best mastering" kind of combination and vote on it, "Aja"
>just might win.
>
>Freakin' GREAT sounds on every single instrument in there, as
>pertains to the genre being recorded, NOTHING comes across as
>abrasive, yet it's not so homogenized as to not grab your
>attention, either (we've all heard mixes like that, right?).
>
>Although, I must say "My Old School" rocks almost as hot in
>that same voting contest. :D
>
>(Yes, I'm currently in a Steely Dan mode - gotta get some
>breathing space from the numetal stuff i've been spending so
>much time on lately! lol)
>
>Roger Nichols gets most of the credit for all the Steely Dan
>stuff, but as I understand it, Elliot Scheiner really did most
>of the basic tracks recording & also the mixdowns, so maybe
>he's really the unsung hero here. Not sure if this applies to
>Aja, as well, but nonetheless...
>
>...GO LISTEN TO "AJA"!!!!
>
>Neil
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| Re: Aja... [message #90802 is a reply to message #90752] |
Sat, 29 September 2007 13:03 |
laMont [1]
Messages: 33
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Ahh Aja..I remember it well. I was fiftenn and a older friend of mine thought
I should hear something that would challenge a that time musicianship..Being
somewhat of a hot-shot player, Ithought bring it on.lOL!
I played that album(Still own today) everyday ftom the moment I got it(15
years old).
What amazed me was that I could not figure ou the chords. At that time, I
had prided myself, on being able to comp any chord I heard. Threw me for
a complete loop. My ego was quickly put into check.
But, it made me strive to become a more rounded musician. It to me 5 years
to finally play the intro to Decond Blues (20years old).
Once you figure out deacon blues, the rest of the album ell into place. Next
up Peg, Black Cow and so on.
Being schooled in Jazz at the time, Aja spoke to a lot us who were being
mentored by the bebop cats, that You can put a new spin on Jazz. Revoice
the chords, and play some very inspired, yet very imporvised solos to boot.
I'm an offcial Aja junkie and very porud of it because it rasied the my game..
"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
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>..is the fuckin' best recording EVER! OK, well, let's back off
>a bit & say it could POSSIBLY be the best fucking recording
>EVER. At the very least, it's definitely a candidate, yes? I'm
>not talking about the whole album (although the whole
>album is great, really, as everyone knows), I'm talking about
>the seven-minute-and-fifty-five-second title cut that was
>nailed on the 2nd take with no edits on the basic tracks.
>
>Man, I'm sitting here listening to it, and I think that if
>there was a way you could compare the best possible recordings
>of all time from ANY genre and digest them down to some kind of
>quantifiable "best sound/best playing/best execution/best
>mix/best mastering" kind of combination and vote on it, "Aja"
>just might win.
>
>Freakin' GREAT sounds on every single instrument in there, as
>pertains to the genre being recorded, NOTHING comes across as
>abrasive, yet it's not so homogenized as to not grab your
>attention, either (we've all heard mixes like that, right?).
>
>Although, I must say "My Old School" rocks almost as hot in
>that same voting contest. :D
>
>(Yes, I'm currently in a Steely Dan mode - gotta get some
>breathing space from the numetal stuff i've been spending so
>much time on lately! lol)
>
>Roger Nichols gets most of the credit for all the Steely Dan
>stuff, but as I understand it, Elliot Scheiner really did most
>of the basic tracks recording & also the mixdowns, so maybe
>he's really the unsung hero here. Not sure if this applies to
>Aja, as well, but nonetheless...
>
>...GO LISTEN TO "AJA"!!!!
>
>Neil
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| Re: Aja... [message #90817 is a reply to message #90800] |
Sat, 29 September 2007 20:19 |
xpam_mark
Messages: 126
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If I'm not mistaken, I believe Nichols mastered that record directly through
an Ibanez SDR1000 straight to master reel.
WMW
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46fe9ab8$1@linux...
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> Thanks, I needed that...I'm going to pull it out listen to it right now.
> Rod
> "Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
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>>..is the fuckin' best recording EVER! OK, well, let's back off
>>a bit & say it could POSSIBLY be the best fucking recording
>>EVER. At the very least, it's definitely a candidate, yes? I'm
>>not talking about the whole album (although the whole
>>album is great, really, as everyone knows), I'm talking about
>>the seven-minute-and-fifty-five-second title cut that was
>>nailed on the 2nd take with no edits on the basic tracks.
>>
>>Man, I'm sitting here listening to it, and I think that if
>>there was a way you could compare the best possible recordings
>>of all time from ANY genre and digest them down to some kind of
>>quantifiable "best sound/best playing/best execution/best
>>mix/best mastering" kind of combination and vote on it, "Aja"
>>just might win.
>>
>>Freakin' GREAT sounds on every single instrument in there, as
>>pertains to the genre being recorded, NOTHING comes across as
>>abrasive, yet it's not so homogenized as to not grab your
>>attention, either (we've all heard mixes like that, right?).
>>
>>Although, I must say "My Old School" rocks almost as hot in
>>that same voting contest. :D
>>
>>(Yes, I'm currently in a Steely Dan mode - gotta get some
>>breathing space from the numetal stuff i've been spending so
>>much time on lately! lol)
>>
>>Roger Nichols gets most of the credit for all the Steely Dan
>>stuff, but as I understand it, Elliot Scheiner really did most
>>of the basic tracks recording & also the mixdowns, so maybe
>>he's really the unsung hero here. Not sure if this applies to
>>Aja, as well, but nonetheless...
>>
>>...GO LISTEN TO "AJA"!!!!
>>
>>Neil
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| Re: Aja... [message #90914 is a reply to message #90900] |
Tue, 02 October 2007 17:29 |
Paul Braun
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On 3 Oct 2007 03:04:06 +1000, "Neil" <IOUIOU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>"D-unit" <cof42_AT_embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:47025bdd@linux...
>>>
>>> If you like drum machines that is.
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>>Dood, they were using drum machines that R. Nichols invented
>>back on Gaucho. Namely "Wendell"
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>>Most of the recent works features the work of a young
>>Keith Carlock. <---quite good. My problem with the current drum
>>sound it that it is SO DEAD, hardly any cymbols etc..
>
>Man, you wanna hear some cymbal-less drumming, check out King
>Crimson's "Discipline". Single cymbal hits on the 1-count
>every 8 or 16 measures or so in most songs, with a few rare
>exceptions in some scattered sections.
>
>Neil
Or Peter Gabriel's 4th album (otherwise known as "Security"). Amazing
stuff - pretty much no cymbals anywhere.
I'll also throw my 2 cents into the Steely Dan thread - I never
understood the appeal. I just plain don't like anything they've done.
Of course, I also just don't get the Dead, either. Sounds like 8 guys
on stage, all stoned out of their minds, all playing a different song
to their own internal click track.
Oh, wait. That's exactly what was happening on stage....
;-P
pab
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| Re: Aja... [message #90924 is a reply to message #90914] |
Tue, 02 October 2007 21:35 |
DJ
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"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:7fo5g3tkid0sds3ieee440hs6db41otd9h@4ax.com...
> On 3 Oct 2007 03:04:06 +1000, "Neil" <IOUIOU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"D-unit" <cof42_AT_embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:47025bdd@linux...
>>>>
>>>> If you like drum machines that is.
>>>
>>>Dood, they were using drum machines that R. Nichols invented
>>>back on Gaucho. Namely "Wendell"
>>>
>>>Most of the recent works features the work of a young
>>>Keith Carlock. <---quite good. My problem with the current drum
>>>sound it that it is SO DEAD, hardly any cymbols etc..
>>
>>Man, you wanna hear some cymbal-less drumming, check out King
>>Crimson's "Discipline". Single cymbal hits on the 1-count
>>every 8 or 16 measures or so in most songs, with a few rare
>>exceptions in some scattered sections.
>>
>>Neil
>
> Or Peter Gabriel's 4th album (otherwise known as "Security"). Amazing
> stuff - pretty much no cymbals anywhere.
>
> I'll also throw my 2 cents into the Steely Dan thread - I never
> understood the appeal. I just plain don't like anything they've done.
> Of course, I also just don't get the Dead, either. Sounds like 8 guys
> on stage, all stoned out of their minds, all playing a different song
> to their own internal click track.
>
> Oh, wait. That's exactly what was happening on stage....
>
> ;-P
>
> pab
gasp!!!!.sputter!!!........you don't get the DEAD???.....here...take this
little purple pill and don't drive for the next 10 hours .......
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| Re: Aja... [message #90926 is a reply to message #90914] |
Wed, 03 October 2007 07:29 |
neil[1]
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Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>On 3 Oct 2007 03:04:06 +1000, "Neil" <IOUIOU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"D-unit" <cof42_AT_embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:47025bdd@linux...
>>>>
>>>> If you like drum machines that is.
>>>
>>>Dood, they were using drum machines that R. Nichols invented
>>>back on Gaucho. Namely "Wendell"
>>>
>>>Most of the recent works features the work of a young
>>>Keith Carlock. <---quite good. My problem with the current drum
>>>sound it that it is SO DEAD, hardly any cymbols etc..
>>
>>Man, you wanna hear some cymbal-less drumming, check out King
>>Crimson's "Discipline". Single cymbal hits on the 1-count
>>every 8 or 16 measures or so in most songs, with a few rare
>>exceptions in some scattered sections.
>>
>>Neil
>
>Or Peter Gabriel's 4th album (otherwise known as "Security"). Amazing
>stuff - pretty much no cymbals anywhere.
That's right! I forgot all about that - Gabriel hates cymbals
even more than Fripp does!
Neil
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