The PARIS Forums


Home » The PARIS Forums » PARIS: Main » OT: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......?
- OT: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85549] Tue, 29 May 2007 13:31 Go to next message
Dale is currently offline  Dale   
Messages: 77
Registered: September 2005
Member
I do mostly acoustic music, and I�ve not been blown away with the
reverb I�ve gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I�ve heard people
love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
sell/trade it towards something else. I�ve heard great things
about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I�m wondering if the KSP8 has
enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
this (for, say under a grand)?

Thanks,
Dale
- Re: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85552 is a reply to message #85549] Tue, 29 May 2007 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sanbar is currently offline  Sanbar   UNITED STATES
Messages: 37
Registered: July 2005
Member
"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:465c8db2$1@linux...
>
> I do mostly acoustic music, and I've not been blown away with the
> reverb I've gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I've heard people
> love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
> sell/trade it towards something else. I've heard great things
> about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I'm wondering if the KSP8 has
> enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
> when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
> Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
> this (for, say under a grand)?
>
> Thanks,
> Dale

I have the M3000 and love it. It's very clean. I do mostly acoustic stuff
myself.
- Re: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85563 is a reply to message #85549] Tue, 29 May 2007 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [4] is currently offline  Deej [4]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
Senior Member
The Kurzweil Rumor might be all you need.....if Kurzweil is your choice.

Deej

"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:465c8db2$1@linux...
>
> I do mostly acoustic music, and I've not been blown away with the
> reverb I've gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I've heard people
> love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
> sell/trade it towards something else. I've heard great things
> about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I'm wondering if the KSP8 has
> enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
> when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
> Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
> this (for, say under a grand)?
>
> Thanks,
> Dale
- Re: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85568 is a reply to message #85563] Tue, 29 May 2007 17:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
George Axon is currently offline  George Axon
Messages: 14
Registered: July 2005
Junior Member
I also have the M3000 - it's very nice!

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>The Kurzweil Rumor might be all you need.....if Kurzweil is your choice.
>
>Deej
>
>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:465c8db2$1@linux...
>>
>> I do mostly acoustic music, and I've not been blown away with the
>> reverb I've gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I've heard people
>> love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
>> sell/trade it towards something else. I've heard great things
>> about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I'm wondering if the KSP8 has
>> enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
>> when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
>> Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
>> this (for, say under a grand)?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dale
>
>
- Re: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85575 is a reply to message #85568] Tue, 29 May 2007 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Lang is currently offline  Chris Lang
Messages: 91
Registered: March 2007
Member
Another vote for the M3000-

If you like the Paris EDS plate reverb at all, you will
LOVE the M3000- it is so unobtrusive but real.

However, my friend Darren Rahn makes a living as a producer,
among other things, and really loves the KSP8...

Chris



"George Axon" <georgeaxon@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>I also have the M3000 - it's very nice!
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>The Kurzweil Rumor might be all you need.....if Kurzweil is your choice.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:465c8db2$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I do mostly acoustic music, and I've not been blown away with the
>>> reverb I've gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I've heard people
>>> love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
>>> sell/trade it towards something else. I've heard great things
>>> about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I'm wondering if the KSP8 has
>>> enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
>>> when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
>>> Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
>>> this (for, say under a grand)?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dale
>>
>>
>
- Re: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85583 is a reply to message #85575] Tue, 29 May 2007 20:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_0175_01C7A247.127D7CA0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I've heard the KSP-8 and it is very nice and natural. Brian T sold his =
M 6000 as I recall
after substituting it's reverbs with the KSP-8. I think that was the =
deal anyway.
Kurly Rumor is serious bang/buck if reverb is the only thing you're =
looking for.
Tom

"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote in message news:465cdf13$1@linux...

Another vote for the M3000-

If you like the Paris EDS plate reverb at all, you will
LOVE the M3000- it is so unobtrusive but real.

However, my friend Darren Rahn makes a living as a producer,
among other things, and really loves the KSP8...

Chris



"George Axon" <georgeaxon@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>I also have the M3000 - it's very nice!
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>The Kurzweil Rumor might be all you need.....if Kurzweil is your =
choice.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message=20
>>news:465c8db2$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I do mostly acoustic music, and I've not been blown away with the
>>> reverb I've gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I've heard people
>>> love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
>>> sell/trade it towards something else. I've heard great things
>>> about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I'm wondering if the KSP8 has
>>> enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
>>> when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
>>> Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
>>> this (for, say under a grand)?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dale=20
>>
>>
>



I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
------=_NextPart_000_0175_01C7A247.127D7CA0
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've heard the KSP-8 and it is very =
nice and=20
natural.&nbsp; Brian T sold his M 6000 as I recall</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>after substituting it's reverbs with =
the=20
KSP-8.&nbsp; I think that was the deal anyway.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kurly Rumor is serious bang/buck if =
reverb is the=20
only thing you're looking for.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Chris Lang" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:yo@yo.yo">yo@yo.yo</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:465cdf13$1@linux">news:465cdf13$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Anot=
her=20
vote for the M3000-<BR><BR>If you like the Paris EDS plate reverb at =
all, you=20
will<BR>LOVE the M3000- it is so unobtrusive but real.<BR><BR>However, =
my=20
friend Darren Rahn makes a living as a producer,<BR>among other =
things, and=20
really loves the KSP8...<BR><BR>Chris<BR><BR><BR><BR>"George Axon" =
&lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:georgeaxon@rogers.com">georgeaxon@rogers.com</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I also have the M3000 - it's very=20
nice!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;"DJ" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;The Kurzweil Rumor might be all you need.....if =
Kurzweil is=20
your choice.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Deej<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;"dale" =
&lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
&gt;=20
wrote in message=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;news:465c8db2$1@linux...<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; I =
do=20
mostly acoustic music, and I've not been blown away with =
the<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
reverb I've gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I've heard =
people<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
love them on drums &amp; certain things) and am thinking =
to<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
sell/trade it towards something else. I've heard great =
things<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I'm wondering if the KSP8=20
has<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the =
higher=20
price tag,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; when what I basically need are nice reverbs =
for=20
acoustic music.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Or is there another killer unit out =
there that=20
might accomplish<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; this (for, say under a=20
grand)?<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Dale=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR ></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
and=20
you?<BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
..html</A>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV></BODY ></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_0175_01C7A247.127D7CA0--
- Re: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85639 is a reply to message #85575] Wed, 30 May 2007 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Flanigan is currently offline  Gary Flanigan
Messages: 181
Registered: June 2006
Senior Member
I love my M3000. But depending on how you plan to use it, a good convolution
reverb might work as well for you and cost less.
- Re: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85669 is a reply to message #85549] Wed, 30 May 2007 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mikael Bergstrom is currently offline  Mikael Bergstrom   SWEDEN
Messages: 7
Registered: May 2007
Junior Member
Hello Dale

Go for the TC M3000, i just love it.

Regards
Mikael
Sweden

"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:465c8db2$1@linux...
>
> I do mostly acoustic music, and I�ve not been blown away with the
> reverb I�ve gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I�ve heard people
> love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
> sell/trade it towards something else. I�ve heard great things
> about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I�m wondering if the KSP8 has
> enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
> when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
> Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
> this (for, say under a grand)?
>
> Thanks,
> Dale
- Re: OT: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85671 is a reply to message #85549] Wed, 30 May 2007 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaMont is currently offline  LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
The Kurzweil is much more versatile. Rooms and plates, halls are all winners.
The TC is 2 trick pony in comparison.


"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>I do mostly acoustic music, and I�ve not been blown away with the
> reverb I�ve gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I�ve heard people
>love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
>sell/trade it towards something else. I�ve heard great things
>about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I�m wondering if the KSP8 has
>enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
> when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
>Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
>this (for, say under a grand)?
>
>Thanks,
>Dale
- Re: OT: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85717 is a reply to message #85671] Thu, 31 May 2007 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Macy is currently offline  John Macy
Messages: 242
Registered: April 2006
Senior Member
I have both units interfaced on my mix rig all
the time. If I had to give up one, the TC would
get the walking papers, even though I love it, too...:)



"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>The Kurzweil is much more versatile. Rooms and plates, halls are all winners.
>The TC is 2 trick pony in comparison.
>
>
>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>I do mostly acoustic music, and I�ve not been blown away with the
>> reverb I�ve gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I�ve heard people
>>love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
>>sell/trade it towards something else. I�ve heard great things
>>about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I�m wondering if the KSP8 has
>>enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
>> when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
>>Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
>>this (for, say under a grand)?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Dale
>
- Re: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85762 is a reply to message #85639] Fri, 01 June 2007 11:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dale is currently offline  Dale   
Messages: 77
Registered: September 2005
Member
Is "convolution reverb" hardware or a plug? If the latter, my options may
be limited since I'm on a mac


"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote:
>
>I love my M3000. But depending on how you plan to use it, a good convolution
>reverb might work as well for you and cost less.
- Re: Rumour vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85763 is a reply to message #85583] Fri, 01 June 2007 11:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dale is currently offline  Dale   
Messages: 77
Registered: September 2005
Member
Is the Rumour's verbs the same as the KSP8's?


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>I've heard the KSP-8 and it is very nice and natural. Brian T sold his
=
>M 6000 as I recall
>after substituting it's reverbs with the KSP-8. I think that was the =
>deal anyway.
>Kurly Rumor is serious bang/buck if reverb is the only thing you're =
>looking for.
>Tom
>
> "Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote in message news:465cdf13$1@linux...
>
> Another vote for the M3000-
>
> If you like the Paris EDS plate reverb at all, you will
> LOVE the M3000- it is so unobtrusive but real.
>
> However, my friend Darren Rahn makes a living as a producer,
> among other things, and really loves the KSP8...
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> "George Axon" <georgeaxon@rogers.com> wrote:
> >
> >I also have the M3000 - it's very nice!
> >
> >"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
> >>The Kurzweil Rumor might be all you need.....if Kurzweil is your =
>choice.
> >>
> >>Deej
> >>
> >>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message=20
> >>news:465c8db2$1@linux...
> >>>
> >>> I do mostly acoustic music, and I've not been blown away with the
> >>> reverb I've gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I've heard people
> >>> love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
> >>> sell/trade it towards something else. I've heard great things
> >>> about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I'm wondering if the KSP8 has
> >>> enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
> >>> when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
> >>> Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
> >>> this (for, say under a grand)?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Dale=20
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've heard the KSP-8 and it is very =
>nice and=20
>natural. Brian T sold his M 6000 as I recall</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>after substituting it's reverbs with =
>the=20
>KSP-8. I think that was the deal anyway.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kurly Rumor is serious bang/buck if =
>reverb is the=20
>only thing you're looking for.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Chris Lang" <<A href=3D"mailto:yo@yo.yo">yo@yo.yo</A>> =
>wrote in=20
> message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:465cdf13$1@linux">news:465cdf13$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Anot=
>her=20
> vote for the M3000-<BR><BR>If you like the Paris EDS plate reverb at =
>all, you=20
> will<BR>LOVE the M3000- it is so unobtrusive but real.<BR><BR>However,
=
>my=20
> friend Darren Rahn makes a living as a producer,<BR>among other =
>things, and=20
> really loves the KSP8...<BR><BR>Chris<BR><BR><BR><BR>"George Axon" =
><<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:georgeaxon@rogers.com">georgeaxon@rogers.com</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>>I also have the M3000 - it's very=20
> nice!<BR>><BR>>"DJ" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>>The Kurzweil Rumor might be all you need.....if =
>Kurzweil is=20
> your choice.<BR>>><BR>>>Deej<BR>>><BR>>>"dale" =
><<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>=20
> wrote in message=20
> <BR>>>news:465c8db2$1@linux...<BR>>>><BR>>>> I =
>do=20
> mostly acoustic music, and I've not been blown away with =
>the<BR>>>>=20
> reverb I've gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I've heard =
>people<BR>>>>=20
> love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking =
>to<BR>>>>=20
> sell/trade it towards something else. I've heard great =
>things<BR>>>>=20
> about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I'm wondering if the KSP8=20
> has<BR>>>> enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the =
>higher=20
> price tag,<BR>>>> when what I basically need are nice reverbs =
>for=20
> acoustic music.<BR>>>> Or is there another killer unit out =
>there that=20
> might accomplish<BR>>>> this (for, say under a=20
> grand)?<BR>>>><BR>>>> Thanks,<BR>>>> Dale=20
> <BR>>><BR>>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>and=20
>you?<BR><A=20
>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>
>
- Re: KSP8 vs. TC M3000 vs......? [message #85791 is a reply to message #85762] Sat, 02 June 2007 11:00 Go to previous message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
Senior Member
There is Altiverb and others on the Mac side.

"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Is "convolution reverb" hardware or a plug? If the latter, my options may
>be limited since I'm on a mac
>
>
>"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote:
>>
>>I love my M3000. But depending on how you plan to use it, a good convolution
>>reverb might work as well for you and cost less.
>
Previous Topic: Helios EQ
Next Topic: anymore REAPER updates??? DJ, don, etc...
Goto Forum:
  


Current Time: Thu Dec 26 18:21:57 PST 2024

Total time taken to generate the page: 0.01573 seconds