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Fri, 20 January 2006 14:40  |
excelav
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Is there an inexpensive software program for song writing, music production
for the PC? Something like GarageBand, that incorporates, loops, sample
player, multi track record DAW, with Acid kind of features?
The only think I can think of is Steinberg's Studio Case, but that cost about
$250.00. The entire iLife suit with GarageBand cost $79.00, $59.00 academic.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
James
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| Re: Song writing, music production software for the PC??? [message #63468 is a reply to message #63467] |
Fri, 20 January 2006 14:46  |
Rich[3]
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If you play git the Line 6 Git port looks very interesting. I have a friend
who is using it and give's it rave reviews. It comes with arbleton... and
uses a USB port. Sells for $129
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Is there an inexpensive software program for song writing, music production
>for the PC? Something like GarageBand, that incorporates, loops, sample
>player, multi track record DAW, with Acid kind of features?
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>The only think I can think of is Steinberg's Studio Case, but that cost
about
>$250.00. The entire iLife suit with GarageBand cost $79.00, $59.00 academic.
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>Any ideas would be appreciated.
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>James
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| Re: Song writing, music production software for the PC??? [message #63471 is a reply to message #63467] |
Fri, 20 January 2006 15:42 |
LaMont
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Acid.. You can record audio & midi as well as loops..it comes with a few cool
virtual instruments or you can use your own vstis.
The other Reasons..Great app for composing and writing..
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Is there an inexpensive software program for song writing, music production
>for the PC? Something like GarageBand, that incorporates, loops, sample
>player, multi track record DAW, with Acid kind of features?
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>The only think I can think of is Steinberg's Studio Case, but that cost
about
>$250.00. The entire iLife suit with GarageBand cost $79.00, $59.00 academic.
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>Any ideas would be appreciated.
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>James
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| Re: Song writing, music production software for the PC??? [message #63475 is a reply to message #63468] |
Fri, 20 January 2006 16:15 |
excelav
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"rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>If you play git the Line 6 Git port looks very interesting. I have a friend
>who is using it and give's it rave reviews. It comes with arbleton... and
>uses a USB port. Sells for $129
I have looked at these, and I think they are big bang for the buck. I wonder
how they sound???
Thanks for the reply!
James
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>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>Is there an inexpensive software program for song writing, music production
>>for the PC? Something like GarageBand, that incorporates, loops, sample
>>player, multi track record DAW, with Acid kind of features?
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>>The only think I can think of is Steinberg's Studio Case, but that cost
>about
>>$250.00. The entire iLife suit with GarageBand cost $79.00, $59.00 academic.
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>>Any ideas would be appreciated.
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>>James
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| Re: Song writing, music production software for the PC??? [message #63479 is a reply to message #63467] |
Fri, 20 January 2006 16:38 |
TCB
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The entire iLife suite is that amount after you buy the Mac, of course, and
pay for a license for OS X. Then it costs that much. So it really costs about
$1200 to get Garage Band unless someone happens to own an OS X compatible
Mac already.
Cubase LE or LX or SE or whatever it is can be had for somewhere around $100.
Fruity Loops, which I've never used but some people really seem to like a
lot, has base versions for under $100.
Another, much better option in my mind, is Live from Ableton which is $400
up front but they are very reasonable about upgrades and it's just, well,
the most amazing music making piece of software known to human kind. It work's
on fruit covered computers with operating system upgrades named after big
cats too.
TCB
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Is there an inexpensive software program for song writing, music production
>for the PC? Something like GarageBand, that incorporates, loops, sample
>player, multi track record DAW, with Acid kind of features?
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>The only think I can think of is Steinberg's Studio Case, but that cost
about
>$250.00. The entire iLife suit with GarageBand cost $79.00, $59.00 academic.
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>Any ideas would be appreciated.
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>James
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| Re: Song writing, music production software for the PC??? [message #63480 is a reply to message #63479] |
Fri, 20 January 2006 16:48 |
excelav
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"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>The entire iLife suite is that amount after you buy the Mac, of course,
and
>pay for a license for OS X. Then it costs that much. So it really costs
about
>$1200 to get Garage Band unless someone happens to own an OS X compatible
>Mac already.
Which would be me, but you already knew that.
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>Cubase LE or LX or SE or whatever it is can be had for somewhere around
$100.
>Fruity Loops, which I've never used but some people really seem to like
a
>lot, has base versions for under $100.
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>Another, much better option in my mind, is Live from Ableton which is $400
>up front but they are very reasonable about upgrades and it's just, well,
>the most amazing music making piece of software known to human kind. It
work's
>on fruit covered computers with operating system upgrades named after big
>cats too.
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>TCB
Thanks for your reply.
James
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>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>Is there an inexpensive software program for song writing, music production
>>for the PC? Something like GarageBand, that incorporates, loops, sample
>>player, multi track record DAW, with Acid kind of features?
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>>The only think I can think of is Steinberg's Studio Case, but that cost
>about
>>$250.00. The entire iLife suit with GarageBand cost $79.00, $59.00 academic.
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>>Any ideas would be appreciated.
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>>James
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| Re: Song writing, music production software for the PC??? [message #63481 is a reply to message #63471] |
Fri, 20 January 2006 16:53 |
excelav
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Hey LaMont! I think Acid might be the ticket. I have older versions of Acid
and Live. I think I'll try out the new Demos.
James
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
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>Acid.. You can record audio & midi as well as loops..it comes with a few
cool
>virtual instruments or you can use your own vstis.
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>The other Reasons..Great app for composing and writing..
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>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>Is there an inexpensive software program for song writing, music production
>>for the PC? Something like GarageBand, that incorporates, loops, sample
>>player, multi track record DAW, with Acid kind of features?
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>>The only think I can think of is Steinberg's Studio Case, but that cost
>about
>>$250.00. The entire iLife suit with GarageBand cost $79.00, $59.00 academic.
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>>Any ideas would be appreciated.
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>>James
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| Re: Song writing, music production software for the PC??? [message #63486 is a reply to message #63467] |
Fri, 20 January 2006 17:00 |
Deej [1]
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I use this Jammer Pro 6.
http://www.soundtrek.com/content/index.php
I rough the songs out, using my Ensoniq MR 76 as the sound engine, save them
as midi files, import the midi file into Cubase SX and drop VSTi's on the
midi tracks, then layer my audio tracks in Paris, timeline locked to SX (I
guess someone could actually *record* directly to SX too ;o)
In Jammer, I enter the chord progression in the style that most closely
suits the song directly into the application, tweak it as needed, then I
can print out a chord chart for a *real* session player for the final
tracking if midi isn't getting it.
Very flexible, powerful. and fast once you get your head around it. I used
to be a wizard with this program. I just upgraded it and there are tons of
new features I haven't gotten my head around yet so that's the next learning
curve.
No loops though. It's all midi. With VSTi's and especially BFD for drums,
midi will never be the same.
Deej
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Is there an inexpensive software program for song writing, music
production
> for the PC? Something like GarageBand, that incorporates, loops, sample
> player, multi track record DAW, with Acid kind of features?
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> The only think I can think of is Steinberg's Studio Case, but that cost
about
> $250.00. The entire iLife suit with GarageBand cost $79.00, $59.00
academic.
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> Any ideas would be appreciated.
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> James
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| Re: Song writing, music production software for the PC??? [message #63487 is a reply to message #63481] |
Fri, 20 January 2006 17:08 |
jef knight[1]
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I agree with the guys, acid ain't too bad. I have it on a laptop with
fruity loops and between the two you can really crank out some cool stuff.
James McCloskey wrote:
>Hey LaMont! I think Acid might be the ticket. I have older versions of Acid
>and Live. I think I'll try out the new Demos.
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>James
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>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
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>>Acid.. You can record audio & midi as well as loops..it comes with a few
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>cool
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>>virtual instruments or you can use your own vstis.
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>>The other Reasons..Great app for composing and writing..
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>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>>Is there an inexpensive software program for song writing, music production
>>>for the PC? Something like GarageBand, that incorporates, loops, sample
>>>player, multi track record DAW, with Acid kind of features?
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>>>The only think I can think of is Steinberg's Studio Case, but that cost
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>>about
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>>>$250.00. The entire iLife suit with GarageBand cost $79.00, $59.00 academic.
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>>>Any ideas would be appreciated.
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>>>James
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| Re: Song writing, music production software for the PC??? [message #63489 is a reply to message #63481] |
Fri, 20 January 2006 17:30 |
Chris Ludwig
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HI James,
If need something that can record audio and midi seq and such I would
suggest Mackie Traktion. Cheap and has some kick ass features.
Chris
James McCloskey wrote:
> Hey LaMont! I think Acid might be the ticket. I have older versions of Acid
> and Live. I think I'll try out the new Demos.
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> James
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> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
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>>Acid.. You can record audio & midi as well as loops..it comes with a few
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> cool
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>>virtual instruments or you can use your own vstis.
>>
>>The other Reasons..Great app for composing and writing..
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>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>>Is there an inexpensive software program for song writing, music production
>>>for the PC? Something like GarageBand, that incorporates, loops, sample
>>>player, multi track record DAW, with Acid kind of features?
>>>
>>>The only think I can think of is Steinberg's Studio Case, but that cost
>>
>>about
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>>>$250.00. The entire iLife suit with GarageBand cost $79.00, $59.00 academic.
>>>
>>>
>>>Any ideas would be appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>James
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--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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| Re: Song writing, music production software for the PC??? [message #63498 is a reply to message #63489] |
Fri, 20 January 2006 19:35 |
excelav
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Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI James,
> If need something that can record audio and midi seq and such I would
>suggest Mackie Traktion. Cheap and has some kick ass features.
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>Chris
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I have traktion one. They talked about how intuative it was, I thought it
sucked!
James
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>James McCloskey wrote:
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>> Hey LaMont! I think Acid might be the ticket. I have older versions
of Acid
>> and Live. I think I'll try out the new Demos.
>>
>> James
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>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
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>>>Acid.. You can record audio & midi as well as loops..it comes with a few
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>> cool
>>
>>>virtual instruments or you can use your own vstis.
>>>
>>>The other Reasons..Great app for composing and writing..
>>>
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>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>Is there an inexpensive software program for song writing, music production
>>>>for the PC? Something like GarageBand, that incorporates, loops, sample
>>>>player, multi track record DAW, with Acid kind of features?
>>>>
>>>>The only think I can think of is Steinberg's Studio Case, but that cost
>>>
>>>about
>>>
>>>>$250.00. The entire iLife suit with GarageBand cost $79.00, $59.00 academic.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Any ideas would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>James
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>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762
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| Re: Song writing, music production software for the PC??? [message #63517 is a reply to message #63467] |
Fri, 20 January 2006 23:48 |
erlilo
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The new Audition 2 seems to be a good tool but I think it haven't midi yet
and maybe it's too pricey for you. I upgraded my Audition 1.5 yesterday for
129 boxes but haven't had time to try it out yet. I have allways liked the
program since the "CoolEditPro" days. It's a form for an audio Swissknife.
http://www.adobe.com/products/audition/newfeatures.html
Erling
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i melding
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> Is there an inexpensive software program for song writing, music
> production
> for the PC? Something like GarageBand, that incorporates, loops, sample
> player, multi track record DAW, with Acid kind of features?
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> The only think I can think of is Steinberg's Studio Case, but that cost
> about
> $250.00. The entire iLife suit with GarageBand cost $79.00, $59.00
> academic.
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> Any ideas would be appreciated.
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> James
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| Re: Song writing, music production software for the PC??? [message #63523 is a reply to message #63467] |
Sat, 21 January 2006 05:25 |
Gordon Belsher
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Hey James,
Just thought you might want to have a look at PG Music's software.
I've been using "Band-in-a-Box" (terrible name for a great program that's
been around since 1992!!) for years and love it. They have a sequencing
program called Power Tracks that looks good too.
http://www.pgmusic.com/powertracks.htm
GB
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Is there an inexpensive software program for song writing, music production
>for the PC? Something like GarageBand, that incorporates, loops, sample
>player, multi track record DAW, with Acid kind of features?
>
>The only think I can think of is Steinberg's Studio Case, but that cost
about
>$250.00. The entire iLife suit with GarageBand cost $79.00, $59.00 academic.
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>Any ideas would be appreciated.
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>James
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| Re: Song writing, music production software for the PC??? [message #63532 is a reply to message #63523] |
Sat, 21 January 2006 10:15 |
Deej [1]
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That looks pretty cool. I used to use BIAB years ago. I has VSTi support
now.
Hmmmmm.......maybe time to up-grade vrom v1.0.
;o)
"Gordon Belsher" <Gordon@GuernseyCove.ca> wrote in message
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> Hey James,
>
> Just thought you might want to have a look at PG Music's software.
> I've been using "Band-in-a-Box" (terrible name for a great program that's
> been around since 1992!!) for years and love it. They have a sequencing
> program called Power Tracks that looks good too.
> http://www.pgmusic.com/powertracks.htm
>
> GB
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >Is there an inexpensive software program for song writing, music
production
> >for the PC? Something like GarageBand, that incorporates, loops, sample
> >player, multi track record DAW, with Acid kind of features?
> >
> >The only think I can think of is Steinberg's Studio Case, but that cost
> about
> >$250.00. The entire iLife suit with GarageBand cost $79.00, $59.00
academic.
> >
> >
> >Any ideas would be appreciated.
> >
> >
> >James
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| Re: Song writing, music production software for the PC??? [message #63640 is a reply to message #63475] |
Mon, 23 January 2006 09:11 |
Rich[3]
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I know two friends who have them (Tone Port version) and the stuff I heard
really sounded good - in addition to the Pod Git simulation/effects it also
includes bass amp simulation... I was thinking of picking one up for quick
idea's on the laptop...
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>"rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>If you play git the Line 6 Git port looks very interesting. I have a friend
>>who is using it and give's it rave reviews. It comes with arbleton...
and
>>uses a USB port. Sells for $129
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>I have looked at these, and I think they are big bang for the buck. I wonder
>how they sound???
>
>Thanks for the reply!
>
>James
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>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>>Is there an inexpensive software program for song writing, music production
>>>for the PC? Something like GarageBand, that incorporates, loops, sample
>>>player, multi track record DAW, with Acid kind of features?
>>>
>>>The only think I can think of is Steinberg's Studio Case, but that cost
>>about
>>>$250.00. The entire iLife suit with GarageBand cost $79.00, $59.00 academic.
>>>
>>>
>>>Any ideas would be appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>James
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| Re: Song writing, music production software for the PC??? [message #63681 is a reply to message #63640] |
Mon, 23 January 2006 17:12 |
Aaron Allen
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I use it. Smashing good for writing, and it does have some pretty cool stuff
on it. I do not use it as a direct usb sound device though, the latency will
kill ya. I just pop a cable on the 1/8" jack and push the sound that way.
YMMV
AA
"Rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:43d50030$1@linux...
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> I know two friends who have them (Tone Port version) and the stuff I heard
> really sounded good - in addition to the Pod Git simulation/effects it
> also
> includes bass amp simulation... I was thinking of picking one up for quick
> idea's on the laptop...
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>"rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>If you play git the Line 6 Git port looks very interesting. I have a
>>>friend
>>>who is using it and give's it rave reviews. It comes with arbleton...
> and
>>>uses a USB port. Sells for $129
>>
>>I have looked at these, and I think they are big bang for the buck. I
>>wonder
>>how they sound???
>>
>>Thanks for the reply!
>>
>>James
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Is there an inexpensive software program for song writing, music
>>>>production
>>>>for the PC? Something like GarageBand, that incorporates, loops,
>>>>sample
>>>>player, multi track record DAW, with Acid kind of features?
>>>>
>>>>The only think I can think of is Steinberg's Studio Case, but that cost
>>>about
>>>>$250.00. The entire iLife suit with GarageBand cost $79.00, $59.00
>>>>academic.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Any ideas would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>James
>>>
>>
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