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| sticking with paris--thanks [message #85756] |
Fri, 01 June 2007 10:47  |
jp
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Okay, i want to stick with PARIS. but my ancient beige G3
just won't recognize my extra internal hard drive anymore and
my external cd burner is very erractic.
there is only a SCSI port on the mac.
could i buy a new mac and find drivers to run paris 2.1?
i assume if i could, i would have access to firewire and some way
to recover my audio files to the latest mac OS.
thanks guys
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #85790 is a reply to message #85761] |
Sat, 02 June 2007 10:58  |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
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Correction, Paris will run on G4 duals, including the 1.25GHz dual. However,
the dual machines are a waste of money because Paris will not utilize the
second processor, also they run hotter and louder! Paris and OS 9 will not
run on the G4 FireWire 800 machine, the vary last G4 tower made.
You can pick up a G4 400 to 500 MHz machine for under $100.00, check ebay
or Craig's list. Paris will run fine on one of these machines. If you want
to run a bunch of plugins these machines can be upgraded with faster G4 processors.
OWC is one source for up grades.
You can also run Mac OSX on these machines on separate partitions or separate
drives. OSX will run better with a faster processor, and you can add a pioneer
DVD burner and utilize Apple's video and DVD authoring software. The other
advantage to having a dual boot Mac is, you can run the latest greatest software
like Logic, DP, LIVE, Cubase, PT, etc. So for instance, if you wanted to
use mastering software, you could reboot in to OSX and open your Paris song
with mastering software in OSX.
Hope this helps!
James
"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>1.25 G4 single processor (not the dual) is the latest mac that will boot
into
>System 9.....got mine on ebay
>
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>Paris will not run on the latest Mac OS or the latest mac hardware.
>>
>>
>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:46605ba8$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Okay, i want to stick with PARIS. but my ancient beige G3
>>> just won't recognize my extra internal hard drive anymore and
>>> my external cd burner is very erractic.
>>> there is only a SCSI port on the mac.
>>> could i buy a new mac and find drivers to run paris 2.1?
>>> i assume if i could, i would have access to firewire and some way
>>> to recover my audio files to the latest mac OS.
>>> thanks guys
>>
>>
>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #85792 is a reply to message #85790] |
Sat, 02 June 2007 11:06 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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One other thing! If you go with a G4 400 MHz+ make sure you get the AGP
version, not the PCI version.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Correction, Paris will run on G4 duals, including the 1.25GHz dual. However,
>the dual machines are a waste of money because Paris will not utilize the
>second processor, also they run hotter and louder! Paris and OS 9 will
not
>run on the G4 FireWire 800 machine, the vary last G4 tower made.
>
>You can pick up a G4 400 to 500 MHz machine for under $100.00, check ebay
>or Craig's list. Paris will run fine on one of these machines. If you
want
>to run a bunch of plugins these machines can be upgraded with faster G4
processors.
> OWC is one source for up grades.
>
>You can also run Mac OSX on these machines on separate partitions or separate
>drives. OSX will run better with a faster processor, and you can add a
pioneer
>DVD burner and utilize Apple's video and DVD authoring software. The other
>advantage to having a dual boot Mac is, you can run the latest greatest
software
>like Logic, DP, LIVE, Cubase, PT, etc. So for instance, if you wanted to
>use mastering software, you could reboot in to OSX and open your Paris song
>with mastering software in OSX.
>
>Hope this helps!
>
>James
>
>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>1.25 G4 single processor (not the dual) is the latest mac that will boot
>into
>>System 9.....got mine on ebay
>>
>>
>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>Paris will not run on the latest Mac OS or the latest mac hardware.
>>>
>>>
>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:46605ba8$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Okay, i want to stick with PARIS. but my ancient beige G3
>>>> just won't recognize my extra internal hard drive anymore and
>>>> my external cd burner is very erractic.
>>>> there is only a SCSI port on the mac.
>>>> could i buy a new mac and find drivers to run paris 2.1?
>>>> i assume if i could, i would have access to firewire and some way
>>>> to recover my audio files to the latest mac OS.
>>>> thanks guys
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #85794 is a reply to message #85790] |
Sat, 02 June 2007 11:30 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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If you're running plugins along with PARIS on OS9, the plugins should be
able to grab CPU cycles from a second processor, right?
And when running OSX for other applications, having a second processor
is very useful, almost double the processing power.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
James McCloskey wrote:
> Correction, Paris will run on G4 duals, including the 1.25GHz dual. However,
> the dual machines are a waste of money because Paris will not utilize the
> second processor, also they run hotter and louder! Paris and OS 9 will not
> run on the G4 FireWire 800 machine, the vary last G4 tower made.
>
> You can pick up a G4 400 to 500 MHz machine for under $100.00, check ebay
> or Craig's list. Paris will run fine on one of these machines. If you want
> to run a bunch of plugins these machines can be upgraded with faster G4 processors.
> OWC is one source for up grades.
>
> You can also run Mac OSX on these machines on separate partitions or separate
> drives. OSX will run better with a faster processor, and you can add a pioneer
> DVD burner and utilize Apple's video and DVD authoring software. The other
> advantage to having a dual boot Mac is, you can run the latest greatest software
> like Logic, DP, LIVE, Cubase, PT, etc. So for instance, if you wanted to
> use mastering software, you could reboot in to OSX and open your Paris song
> with mastering software in OSX.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> James
>
> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 1.25 G4 single processor (not the dual) is the latest mac that will boot
> into
>> System 9.....got mine on ebay
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>> Paris will not run on the latest Mac OS or the latest mac hardware.
>>>
>>>
>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:46605ba8$1@linux...
>>>> Okay, i want to stick with PARIS. but my ancient beige G3
>>>> just won't recognize my extra internal hard drive anymore and
>>>> my external cd burner is very erractic.
>>>> there is only a SCSI port on the mac.
>>>> could i buy a new mac and find drivers to run paris 2.1?
>>>> i assume if i could, i would have access to firewire and some way
>>>> to recover my audio files to the latest mac OS.
>>>> thanks guys
>>>
>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #85796 is a reply to message #85794] |
Sat, 02 June 2007 12:10 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
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>If you're running plugins along with PARIS on OS9, the plugins should be
>able to grab CPU cycles from a second processor, right?
>
Yes, I believe your correct.
>And when running OSX for other applications, having a second processor
>is very useful, almost double the processing power.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
This is true, however money might be better spent on a new machine than a
dual G4. With G4 400 and 500 MHz under $100.00 it's hard to beat if you
want to keep rolling with Paris on a Mac. I'm looking at plugins that cost
more.
>James McCloskey wrote:
>> Correction, Paris will run on G4 duals, including the 1.25GHz dual. However,
>> the dual machines are a waste of money because Paris will not utilize
the
>> second processor, also they run hotter and louder! Paris and OS 9 will
not
>> run on the G4 FireWire 800 machine, the vary last G4 tower made.
>>
>> You can pick up a G4 400 to 500 MHz machine for under $100.00, check ebay
>> or Craig's list. Paris will run fine on one of these machines. If you
want
>> to run a bunch of plugins these machines can be upgraded with faster G4
processors.
>> OWC is one source for up grades.
>>
>> You can also run Mac OSX on these machines on separate partitions or separate
>> drives. OSX will run better with a faster processor, and you can add
a pioneer
>> DVD burner and utilize Apple's video and DVD authoring software. The
other
>> advantage to having a dual boot Mac is, you can run the latest greatest
software
>> like Logic, DP, LIVE, Cubase, PT, etc. So for instance, if you wanted
to
>> use mastering software, you could reboot in to OSX and open your Paris
song
>> with mastering software in OSX.
>>
>> Hope this helps!
>>
>> James
>>
>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 1.25 G4 single processor (not the dual) is the latest mac that will boot
>> into
>>> System 9.....got mine on ebay
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>> Paris will not run on the latest Mac OS or the latest mac hardware.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:46605ba8$1@linux...
>>>>> Okay, i want to stick with PARIS. but my ancient beige G3
>>>>> just won't recognize my extra internal hard drive anymore and
>>>>> my external cd burner is very erractic.
>>>>> there is only a SCSI port on the mac.
>>>>> could i buy a new mac and find drivers to run paris 2.1?
>>>>> i assume if i could, i would have access to firewire and some way
>>>>> to recover my audio files to the latest mac OS.
>>>>> thanks guys
>>>>
>>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #85845 is a reply to message #85796] |
Sun, 03 June 2007 08:07 |
jp
Messages: 65
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thanks for the help!
let's see if i got it straight--
i should get a G4 400 to 500 MHZ,
AGP not PCI-- (i don't really understand this part)
pull out my PARIS card from my G3 and drop it into the G4,
and load my current operating system and go with that.
Will I need new drivers to run PARIS on the G4?
what's the best way then to add a CD burner to my new gear?
Any suggestions as to the model of the new burner?
Because the G3 had only a SCSI output, i've had trouble
finding a reliable CD burner. I've tried several and had
my old Yamaha reburbished and none have been reliable.
is there a way to retrieve my data from the internal
Maxtor drive that my present machine no longer recognizes?
This has been a baffling problem for me-- why the Maxtor
has gradually failed to show up and now finally is invisible to the G3.
will I be able to add either an internal or external additional
hard drive(say the Maxtor, which I don't believe is at fault)?
thanks again-- i appreciate all the suggestions and patience with my ignorance
about what is obvious to a lot of you.
jp
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>
>>If you're running plugins along with PARIS on OS9, the plugins should be
>
>>able to grab CPU cycles from a second processor, right?
>>
>Yes, I believe your correct.
>
>>And when running OSX for other applications, having a second processor
>>is very useful, almost double the processing power.
>>
>>Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>
>This is true, however money might be better spent on a new machine than
a
>dual G4. With G4 400 and 500 MHz under $100.00 it's hard to beat if you
>want to keep rolling with Paris on a Mac. I'm looking at plugins that cost
>more.
>
>>James McCloskey wrote:
>>> Correction, Paris will run on G4 duals, including the 1.25GHz dual.
However,
>>> the dual machines are a waste of money because Paris will not utilize
>the
>>> second processor, also they run hotter and louder! Paris and OS 9 will
>not
>>> run on the G4 FireWire 800 machine, the vary last G4 tower made.
>>>
>>> You can pick up a G4 400 to 500 MHz machine for under $100.00, check
ebay
>>> or Craig's list. Paris will run fine on one of these machines. If you
>want
>>> to run a bunch of plugins these machines can be upgraded with faster
G4
>processors.
>>> OWC is one source for up grades.
>>>
>>> You can also run Mac OSX on these machines on separate partitions or
separate
>>> drives. OSX will run better with a faster processor, and you can add
>a pioneer
>>> DVD burner and utilize Apple's video and DVD authoring software. The
>other
>>> advantage to having a dual boot Mac is, you can run the latest greatest
>software
>>> like Logic, DP, LIVE, Cubase, PT, etc. So for instance, if you wanted
>to
>>> use mastering software, you could reboot in to OSX and open your Paris
>song
>>> with mastering software in OSX.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps!
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> 1.25 G4 single processor (not the dual) is the latest mac that will
boot
>>> into
>>>> System 9.....got mine on ebay
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>> Paris will not run on the latest Mac OS or the latest mac hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:46605ba8$1@linux...
>>>>>> Okay, i want to stick with PARIS. but my ancient beige G3
>>>>>> just won't recognize my extra internal hard drive anymore and
>>>>>> my external cd burner is very erractic.
>>>>>> there is only a SCSI port on the mac.
>>>>>> could i buy a new mac and find drivers to run paris 2.1?
>>>>>> i assume if i could, i would have access to firewire and some way
>>>>>> to recover my audio files to the latest mac OS.
>>>>>> thanks guys
>>>>>
>>>
>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #85849 is a reply to message #85845] |
Sun, 03 June 2007 09:21 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Hey JP! You can try to add the Mixture, but it might be shot. If not it
should work. You can also add hard drives up to 127 Gigabits. You can install
larger HDs but it will only see 127 GB.
You can do a search to find CD burners that will run on OS9. There are companies
on the net that have older Mac parts. You can also add a Pioneer CD/DVD
burner. I don't know for sure if the newer models will work with OS9, but
that shouldn't be too hard to find out.
You will not need any new drivers to run Paris on a G4. Just make sure you
get the original installer disc with the machine you buy. The transition
should be easy and it would be the cheap way to keep Paris going. Keep in
mind, you can get any Apple G4 tower to run Paris accept the last G4 FireWire
800 model. My suggestion for the 400/500 MHz model is because they are so
cheap. You can get a much faster model if you want. Faster is always better.
The AGP is for the video card only. The earlier model 400/500MHz are PCI
only and I think have slower bussing or something. Most 400/500 MHz machines
you will find are going to be AGP, but you should make sure. It's also a
bit easier to find AGP video cards if you ever have to replace it. You can
go look at all the specs for all models at www.apple-history.com, go to the
left hand column.
When the time comes, shoot me an email and I can help you over the phone
with installing drives and such.
James
"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>
>thanks for the help!
>
>let's see if i got it straight--
>i should get a G4 400 to 500 MHZ,
>AGP not PCI-- (i don't really understand this part)
>pull out my PARIS card from my G3 and drop it into the G4,
>and load my current operating system and go with that.
>
>Will I need new drivers to run PARIS on the G4?
>
>what's the best way then to add a CD burner to my new gear?
>Any suggestions as to the model of the new burner?
>Because the G3 had only a SCSI output, i've had trouble
>finding a reliable CD burner. I've tried several and had
>my old Yamaha reburbished and none have been reliable.
>
>is there a way to retrieve my data from the internal
>Maxtor drive that my present machine no longer recognizes?
>This has been a baffling problem for me-- why the Maxtor
>has gradually failed to show up and now finally is invisible to the G3.
>
>will I be able to add either an internal or external additional
>hard drive(say the Maxtor, which I don't believe is at fault)?
>
>thanks again-- i appreciate all the suggestions and patience with my ignorance
>about what is obvious to a lot of you.
>
>jp
>
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>If you're running plugins along with PARIS on OS9, the plugins should
be
>>
>>>able to grab CPU cycles from a second processor, right?
>>>
>>Yes, I believe your correct.
>>
>>>And when running OSX for other applications, having a second processor
>
>>>is very useful, almost double the processing power.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>This is true, however money might be better spent on a new machine than
>a
>>dual G4. With G4 400 and 500 MHz under $100.00 it's hard to beat if you
>>want to keep rolling with Paris on a Mac. I'm looking at plugins that
cost
>>more.
>>
>>>James McCloskey wrote:
>>>> Correction, Paris will run on G4 duals, including the 1.25GHz dual.
>However,
>>>> the dual machines are a waste of money because Paris will not utilize
>>the
>>>> second processor, also they run hotter and louder! Paris and OS 9 will
>>not
>>>> run on the G4 FireWire 800 machine, the vary last G4 tower made.
>>>>
>>>> You can pick up a G4 400 to 500 MHz machine for under $100.00, check
>ebay
>>>> or Craig's list. Paris will run fine on one of these machines. If
you
>>want
>>>> to run a bunch of plugins these machines can be upgraded with faster
>G4
>>processors.
>>>> OWC is one source for up grades.
>>>>
>>>> You can also run Mac OSX on these machines on separate partitions or
>separate
>>>> drives. OSX will run better with a faster processor, and you can add
>>a pioneer
>>>> DVD burner and utilize Apple's video and DVD authoring software. The
>>other
>>>> advantage to having a dual boot Mac is, you can run the latest greatest
>>software
>>>> like Logic, DP, LIVE, Cubase, PT, etc. So for instance, if you wanted
>>to
>>>> use mastering software, you could reboot in to OSX and open your Paris
>>song
>>>> with mastering software in OSX.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> 1.25 G4 single processor (not the dual) is the latest mac that will
>boot
>>>> into
>>>>> System 9.....got mine on ebay
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Paris will not run on the latest Mac OS or the latest mac hardware.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:46605ba8$1@linux...
>>>>>>> Okay, i want to stick with PARIS. but my ancient beige G3
>>>>>>> just won't recognize my extra internal hard drive anymore and
>>>>>>> my external cd burner is very erractic.
>>>>>>> there is only a SCSI port on the mac.
>>>>>>> could i buy a new mac and find drivers to run paris 2.1?
>>>>>>> i assume if i could, i would have access to firewire and some way
>>>>>>> to recover my audio files to the latest mac OS.
>>>>>>> thanks guys
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #85853 is a reply to message #85849] |
Sun, 03 June 2007 09:51 |
jp
Messages: 65
Registered: June 2005
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James--
thanks-- once again for helping me --
you've done it before a while back--
and i'll be grateful for your help
again when i get my next mac
cheers,
jp
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hey JP! You can try to add the Mixture, but it might be shot. If not it
>should work. You can also add hard drives up to 127 Gigabits. You can
install
>larger HDs but it will only see 127 GB.
>
>You can do a search to find CD burners that will run on OS9. There are
companies
>on the net that have older Mac parts. You can also add a Pioneer CD/DVD
>burner. I don't know for sure if the newer models will work with OS9, but
>that shouldn't be too hard to find out.
>
>You will not need any new drivers to run Paris on a G4. Just make sure
you
>get the original installer disc with the machine you buy. The transition
>should be easy and it would be the cheap way to keep Paris going. Keep
in
>mind, you can get any Apple G4 tower to run Paris accept the last G4 FireWire
>800 model. My suggestion for the 400/500 MHz model is because they are
so
>cheap. You can get a much faster model if you want. Faster is always better.
>
>The AGP is for the video card only. The earlier model 400/500MHz are PCI
>only and I think have slower bussing or something. Most 400/500 MHz machines
>you will find are going to be AGP, but you should make sure. It's also
a
>bit easier to find AGP video cards if you ever have to replace it. You
can
>go look at all the specs for all models at www.apple-history.com, go to
the
>left hand column.
>
>When the time comes, shoot me an email and I can help you over the phone
>with installing drives and such.
>
>James
>
>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>
>>thanks for the help!
>>
>>let's see if i got it straight--
>>i should get a G4 400 to 500 MHZ,
>>AGP not PCI-- (i don't really understand this part)
>>pull out my PARIS card from my G3 and drop it into the G4,
>>and load my current operating system and go with that.
>>
>>Will I need new drivers to run PARIS on the G4?
>>
>>what's the best way then to add a CD burner to my new gear?
>>Any suggestions as to the model of the new burner?
>>Because the G3 had only a SCSI output, i've had trouble
>>finding a reliable CD burner. I've tried several and had
>>my old Yamaha reburbished and none have been reliable.
>>
>>is there a way to retrieve my data from the internal
>>Maxtor drive that my present machine no longer recognizes?
>>This has been a baffling problem for me-- why the Maxtor
>>has gradually failed to show up and now finally is invisible to the G3.
>>
>>will I be able to add either an internal or external additional
>>hard drive(say the Maxtor, which I don't believe is at fault)?
>>
>>thanks again-- i appreciate all the suggestions and patience with my ignorance
>>about what is obvious to a lot of you.
>>
>>jp
>>
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>If you're running plugins along with PARIS on OS9, the plugins should
>be
>>>
>>>>able to grab CPU cycles from a second processor, right?
>>>>
>>>Yes, I believe your correct.
>>>
>>>>And when running OSX for other applications, having a second processor
>>
>>>>is very useful, almost double the processing power.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>This is true, however money might be better spent on a new machine than
>>a
>>>dual G4. With G4 400 and 500 MHz under $100.00 it's hard to beat if you
>>>want to keep rolling with Paris on a Mac. I'm looking at plugins that
>cost
>>>more.
>>>
>>>>James McCloskey wrote:
>>>>> Correction, Paris will run on G4 duals, including the 1.25GHz dual.
>
>>However,
>>>>> the dual machines are a waste of money because Paris will not utilize
>>>the
>>>>> second processor, also they run hotter and louder! Paris and OS 9
will
>>>not
>>>>> run on the G4 FireWire 800 machine, the vary last G4 tower made.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can pick up a G4 400 to 500 MHz machine for under $100.00, check
>>ebay
>>>>> or Craig's list. Paris will run fine on one of these machines. If
>you
>>>want
>>>>> to run a bunch of plugins these machines can be upgraded with faster
>>G4
>>>processors.
>>>>> OWC is one source for up grades.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can also run Mac OSX on these machines on separate partitions or
>>separate
>>>>> drives. OSX will run better with a faster processor, and you can add
>>>a pioneer
>>>>> DVD burner and utilize Apple's video and DVD authoring software. The
>>>other
>>>>> advantage to having a dual boot Mac is, you can run the latest greatest
>>>software
>>>>> like Logic, DP, LIVE, Cubase, PT, etc. So for instance, if you wanted
>>>to
>>>>> use mastering software, you could reboot in to OSX and open your Paris
>>>song
>>>>> with mastering software in OSX.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>>>
>>>>> James
>>>>>
>>>>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 1.25 G4 single processor (not the dual) is the latest mac that will
>>boot
>>>>> into
>>>>>> System 9.....got mine on ebay
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Paris will not run on the latest Mac OS or the latest mac hardware.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:46605ba8$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> Okay, i want to stick with PARIS. but my ancient beige G3
>>>>>>>> just won't recognize my extra internal hard drive anymore and
>>>>>>>> my external cd burner is very erractic.
>>>>>>>> there is only a SCSI port on the mac.
>>>>>>>> could i buy a new mac and find drivers to run paris 2.1?
>>>>>>>> i assume if i could, i would have access to firewire and some way
>>>>>>>> to recover my audio files to the latest mac OS.
>>>>>>>> thanks guys
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #85855 is a reply to message #85853] |
Sun, 03 June 2007 10:05 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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I might've missed it... but did you try to replace the ribbon cable to your
hard drive before you go to all this trouble over it losing the maxtor?
AA
"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:4662f19d$1@linux...
>
> James--
> thanks-- once again for helping me --
> you've done it before a while back--
> and i'll be grateful for your help
> again when i get my next mac
> cheers,
> jp
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey JP! You can try to add the Mixture, but it might be shot. If not it
>>should work. You can also add hard drives up to 127 Gigabits. You can
> install
>>larger HDs but it will only see 127 GB.
>>
>>You can do a search to find CD burners that will run on OS9. There are
> companies
>>on the net that have older Mac parts. You can also add a Pioneer CD/DVD
>>burner. I don't know for sure if the newer models will work with OS9, but
>>that shouldn't be too hard to find out.
>>
>>You will not need any new drivers to run Paris on a G4. Just make sure
> you
>>get the original installer disc with the machine you buy. The transition
>>should be easy and it would be the cheap way to keep Paris going. Keep
> in
>>mind, you can get any Apple G4 tower to run Paris accept the last G4
>>FireWire
>>800 model. My suggestion for the 400/500 MHz model is because they are
> so
>>cheap. You can get a much faster model if you want. Faster is always
>>better.
>>
>>The AGP is for the video card only. The earlier model 400/500MHz are PCI
>>only and I think have slower bussing or something. Most 400/500 MHz
>>machines
>>you will find are going to be AGP, but you should make sure. It's also
> a
>>bit easier to find AGP video cards if you ever have to replace it. You
> can
>>go look at all the specs for all models at www.apple-history.com, go to
> the
>>left hand column.
>>
>>When the time comes, shoot me an email and I can help you over the phone
>>with installing drives and such.
>>
>>James
>>
>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>thanks for the help!
>>>
>>>let's see if i got it straight--
>>>i should get a G4 400 to 500 MHZ,
>>>AGP not PCI-- (i don't really understand this part)
>>>pull out my PARIS card from my G3 and drop it into the G4,
>>>and load my current operating system and go with that.
>>>
>>>Will I need new drivers to run PARIS on the G4?
>>>
>>>what's the best way then to add a CD burner to my new gear?
>>>Any suggestions as to the model of the new burner?
>>>Because the G3 had only a SCSI output, i've had trouble
>>>finding a reliable CD burner. I've tried several and had
>>>my old Yamaha reburbished and none have been reliable.
>>>
>>>is there a way to retrieve my data from the internal
>>>Maxtor drive that my present machine no longer recognizes?
>>>This has been a baffling problem for me-- why the Maxtor
>>>has gradually failed to show up and now finally is invisible to the G3.
>>>
>>>will I be able to add either an internal or external additional
>>>hard drive(say the Maxtor, which I don't believe is at fault)?
>>>
>>>thanks again-- i appreciate all the suggestions and patience with my
>>>ignorance
>>>about what is obvious to a lot of you.
>>>
>>>jp
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>If you're running plugins along with PARIS on OS9, the plugins should
>>be
>>>>
>>>>>able to grab CPU cycles from a second processor, right?
>>>>>
>>>>Yes, I believe your correct.
>>>>
>>>>>And when running OSX for other applications, having a second processor
>>>
>>>>>is very useful, almost double the processing power.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>This is true, however money might be better spent on a new machine than
>>>a
>>>>dual G4. With G4 400 and 500 MHz under $100.00 it's hard to beat if you
>>>>want to keep rolling with Paris on a Mac. I'm looking at plugins that
>>cost
>>>>more.
>>>>
>>>>>James McCloskey wrote:
>>>>>> Correction, Paris will run on G4 duals, including the 1.25GHz dual.
>>
>>>However,
>>>>>> the dual machines are a waste of money because Paris will not utilize
>>>>the
>>>>>> second processor, also they run hotter and louder! Paris and OS 9
> will
>>>>not
>>>>>> run on the G4 FireWire 800 machine, the vary last G4 tower made.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can pick up a G4 400 to 500 MHz machine for under $100.00, check
>>>ebay
>>>>>> or Craig's list. Paris will run fine on one of these machines. If
>>you
>>>>want
>>>>>> to run a bunch of plugins these machines can be upgraded with faster
>>>G4
>>>>processors.
>>>>>> OWC is one source for up grades.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can also run Mac OSX on these machines on separate partitions or
>>>separate
>>>>>> drives. OSX will run better with a faster processor, and you can add
>>>>a pioneer
>>>>>> DVD burner and utilize Apple's video and DVD authoring software. The
>>>>other
>>>>>> advantage to having a dual boot Mac is, you can run the latest
>>>>>> greatest
>>>>software
>>>>>> like Logic, DP, LIVE, Cubase, PT, etc. So for instance, if you
>>>>>> wanted
>>>>to
>>>>>> use mastering software, you could reboot in to OSX and open your
>>>>>> Paris
>>>>song
>>>>>> with mastering software in OSX.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 1.25 G4 single processor (not the dual) is the latest mac that will
>>>boot
>>>>>> into
>>>>>>> System 9.....got mine on ebay
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Paris will not run on the latest Mac OS or the latest mac hardware.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:46605ba8$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>> Okay, i want to stick with PARIS. but my ancient beige G3
>>>>>>>>> just won't recognize my extra internal hard drive anymore and
>>>>>>>>> my external cd burner is very erractic.
>>>>>>>>> there is only a SCSI port on the mac.
>>>>>>>>> could i buy a new mac and find drivers to run paris 2.1?
>>>>>>>>> i assume if i could, i would have access to firewire and some way
>>>>>>>>> to recover my audio files to the latest mac OS.
>>>>>>>>> thanks guys
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #85864 is a reply to message #85849] |
Sun, 03 June 2007 12:02 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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I love my spell checker! Mixture=Maxtor; )
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hey JP! You can try to add the Mixture, but it might be shot. If not it
>should work. You can also add hard drives up to 127 Gigabits. You can
install
>larger HDs but it will only see 127 GB.
>
>You can do a search to find CD burners that will run on OS9. There are
companies
>on the net that have older Mac parts. You can also add a Pioneer CD/DVD
>burner. I don't know for sure if the newer models will work with OS9, but
>that shouldn't be too hard to find out.
>
>You will not need any new drivers to run Paris on a G4. Just make sure
you
>get the original installer disc with the machine you buy. The transition
>should be easy and it would be the cheap way to keep Paris going. Keep
in
>mind, you can get any Apple G4 tower to run Paris accept the last G4 FireWire
>800 model. My suggestion for the 400/500 MHz model is because they are
so
>cheap. You can get a much faster model if you want. Faster is always better.
>
>The AGP is for the video card only. The earlier model 400/500MHz are PCI
>only and I think have slower bussing or something. Most 400/500 MHz machines
>you will find are going to be AGP, but you should make sure. It's also
a
>bit easier to find AGP video cards if you ever have to replace it. You
can
>go look at all the specs for all models at www.apple-history.com, go to
the
>left hand column.
>
>When the time comes, shoot me an email and I can help you over the phone
>with installing drives and such.
>
>James
>
>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>
>>thanks for the help!
>>
>>let's see if i got it straight--
>>i should get a G4 400 to 500 MHZ,
>>AGP not PCI-- (i don't really understand this part)
>>pull out my PARIS card from my G3 and drop it into the G4,
>>and load my current operating system and go with that.
>>
>>Will I need new drivers to run PARIS on the G4?
>>
>>what's the best way then to add a CD burner to my new gear?
>>Any suggestions as to the model of the new burner?
>>Because the G3 had only a SCSI output, i've had trouble
>>finding a reliable CD burner. I've tried several and had
>>my old Yamaha reburbished and none have been reliable.
>>
>>is there a way to retrieve my data from the internal
>>Maxtor drive that my present machine no longer recognizes?
>>This has been a baffling problem for me-- why the Maxtor
>>has gradually failed to show up and now finally is invisible to the G3.
>>
>>will I be able to add either an internal or external additional
>>hard drive(say the Maxtor, which I don't believe is at fault)?
>>
>>thanks again-- i appreciate all the suggestions and patience with my ignorance
>>about what is obvious to a lot of you.
>>
>>jp
>>
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>If you're running plugins along with PARIS on OS9, the plugins should
>be
>>>
>>>>able to grab CPU cycles from a second processor, right?
>>>>
>>>Yes, I believe your correct.
>>>
>>>>And when running OSX for other applications, having a second processor
>>
>>>>is very useful, almost double the processing power.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>This is true, however money might be better spent on a new machine than
>>a
>>>dual G4. With G4 400 and 500 MHz under $100.00 it's hard to beat if you
>>>want to keep rolling with Paris on a Mac. I'm looking at plugins that
>cost
>>>more.
>>>
>>>>James McCloskey wrote:
>>>>> Correction, Paris will run on G4 duals, including the 1.25GHz dual.
>
>>However,
>>>>> the dual machines are a waste of money because Paris will not utilize
>>>the
>>>>> second processor, also they run hotter and louder! Paris and OS 9
will
>>>not
>>>>> run on the G4 FireWire 800 machine, the vary last G4 tower made.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can pick up a G4 400 to 500 MHz machine for under $100.00, check
>>ebay
>>>>> or Craig's list. Paris will run fine on one of these machines. If
>you
>>>want
>>>>> to run a bunch of plugins these machines can be upgraded with faster
>>G4
>>>processors.
>>>>> OWC is one source for up grades.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can also run Mac OSX on these machines on separate partitions or
>>separate
>>>>> drives. OSX will run better with a faster processor, and you can add
>>>a pioneer
>>>>> DVD burner and utilize Apple's video and DVD authoring software. The
>>>other
>>>>> advantage to having a dual boot Mac is, you can run the latest greatest
>>>software
>>>>> like Logic, DP, LIVE, Cubase, PT, etc. So for instance, if you wanted
>>>to
>>>>> use mastering software, you could reboot in to OSX and open your Paris
>>>song
>>>>> with mastering software in OSX.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>>>
>>>>> James
>>>>>
>>>>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 1.25 G4 single processor (not the dual) is the latest mac that will
>>boot
>>>>> into
>>>>>> System 9.....got mine on ebay
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Paris will not run on the latest Mac OS or the latest mac hardware.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:46605ba8$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> Okay, i want to stick with PARIS. but my ancient beige G3
>>>>>>>> just won't recognize my extra internal hard drive anymore and
>>>>>>>> my external cd burner is very erractic.
>>>>>>>> there is only a SCSI port on the mac.
>>>>>>>> could i buy a new mac and find drivers to run paris 2.1?
>>>>>>>> i assume if i could, i would have access to firewire and some way
>>>>>>>> to recover my audio files to the latest mac OS.
>>>>>>>> thanks guys
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #85991 is a reply to message #85855] |
Mon, 04 June 2007 12:31 |
jp
Messages: 65
Registered: June 2005
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Hi AA--
actually i tried switching the boot drive to the maxtor's
postion and vice versa. G3 still wouldn't recognize the maxtor
but had no trouble starting otherwise. of course, the maxtor
itself could be the culprit.
jp
wrote:
>I might've missed it... but did you try to replace the ribbon cable to your
>hard drive before you go to all this trouble over it losing the maxtor?
>
>AA
>
>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:4662f19d$1@linux...
>>
>> James--
>> thanks-- once again for helping me --
>> you've done it before a while back--
>> and i'll be grateful for your help
>> again when i get my next mac
>> cheers,
>> jp
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hey JP! You can try to add the Mixture, but it might be shot. If not
it
>>>should work. You can also add hard drives up to 127 Gigabits. You can
>> install
>>>larger HDs but it will only see 127 GB.
>>>
>>>You can do a search to find CD burners that will run on OS9. There are
>> companies
>>>on the net that have older Mac parts. You can also add a Pioneer CD/DVD
>>>burner. I don't know for sure if the newer models will work with OS9,
but
>>>that shouldn't be too hard to find out.
>>>
>>>You will not need any new drivers to run Paris on a G4. Just make sure
>> you
>>>get the original installer disc with the machine you buy. The transition
>>>should be easy and it would be the cheap way to keep Paris going. Keep
>> in
>>>mind, you can get any Apple G4 tower to run Paris accept the last G4
>>>FireWire
>>>800 model. My suggestion for the 400/500 MHz model is because they are
>> so
>>>cheap. You can get a much faster model if you want. Faster is always
>>>better.
>>>
>>>The AGP is for the video card only. The earlier model 400/500MHz are
PCI
>>>only and I think have slower bussing or something. Most 400/500 MHz
>>>machines
>>>you will find are going to be AGP, but you should make sure. It's also
>> a
>>>bit easier to find AGP video cards if you ever have to replace it. You
>> can
>>>go look at all the specs for all models at www.apple-history.com, go to
>> the
>>>left hand column.
>>>
>>>When the time comes, shoot me an email and I can help you over the phone
>>>with installing drives and such.
>>>
>>>James
>>>
>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>thanks for the help!
>>>>
>>>>let's see if i got it straight--
>>>>i should get a G4 400 to 500 MHZ,
>>>>AGP not PCI-- (i don't really understand this part)
>>>>pull out my PARIS card from my G3 and drop it into the G4,
>>>>and load my current operating system and go with that.
>>>>
>>>>Will I need new drivers to run PARIS on the G4?
>>>>
>>>>what's the best way then to add a CD burner to my new gear?
>>>>Any suggestions as to the model of the new burner?
>>>>Because the G3 had only a SCSI output, i've had trouble
>>>>finding a reliable CD burner. I've tried several and had
>>>>my old Yamaha reburbished and none have been reliable.
>>>>
>>>>is there a way to retrieve my data from the internal
>>>>Maxtor drive that my present machine no longer recognizes?
>>>>This has been a baffling problem for me-- why the Maxtor
>>>>has gradually failed to show up and now finally is invisible to the G3.
>>>>
>>>>will I be able to add either an internal or external additional
>>>>hard drive(say the Maxtor, which I don't believe is at fault)?
>>>>
>>>>thanks again-- i appreciate all the suggestions and patience with my
>>>>ignorance
>>>>about what is obvious to a lot of you.
>>>>
>>>>jp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you're running plugins along with PARIS on OS9, the plugins should
>>>be
>>>>>
>>>>>>able to grab CPU cycles from a second processor, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, I believe your correct.
>>>>>
>>>>>>And when running OSX for other applications, having a second processor
>>>>
>>>>>>is very useful, almost double the processing power.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>This is true, however money might be better spent on a new machine than
>>>>a
>>>>>dual G4. With G4 400 and 500 MHz under $100.00 it's hard to beat if
you
>>>>>want to keep rolling with Paris on a Mac. I'm looking at plugins that
>>>cost
>>>>>more.
>>>>>
>>>>>>James McCloskey wrote:
>>>>>>> Correction, Paris will run on G4 duals, including the 1.25GHz dual.
>>>
>>>>However,
>>>>>>> the dual machines are a waste of money because Paris will not utilize
>>>>>the
>>>>>>> second processor, also they run hotter and louder! Paris and OS
9
>> will
>>>>>not
>>>>>>> run on the G4 FireWire 800 machine, the vary last G4 tower made.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can pick up a G4 400 to 500 MHz machine for under $100.00, check
>>>>ebay
>>>>>>> or Craig's list. Paris will run fine on one of these machines.
If
>>>you
>>>>>want
>>>>>>> to run a bunch of plugins these machines can be upgraded with faster
>>>>G4
>>>>>processors.
>>>>>>> OWC is one source for up grades.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can also run Mac OSX on these machines on separate partitions
or
>>>>separate
>>>>>>> drives. OSX will run better with a faster processor, and you can
add
>>>>>a pioneer
>>>>>>> DVD burner and utilize Apple's video and DVD authoring software.
The
>>>>>other
>>>>>>> advantage to having a dual boot Mac is, you can run the latest
>>>>>>> greatest
>>>>>software
>>>>>>> like Logic, DP, LIVE, Cubase, PT, etc. So for instance, if you
>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>to
>>>>>>> use mastering software, you could reboot in to OSX and open your
>>>>>>> Paris
>>>>>song
>>>>>>> with mastering software in OSX.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 1.25 G4 single processor (not the dual) is the latest mac that will
>>>>boot
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>> System 9.....got mine on ebay
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Paris will not run on the latest Mac OS or the latest mac hardware.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:46605ba8$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> Okay, i want to stick with PARIS. but my ancient beige G3
>>>>>>>>>> just won't recognize my extra internal hard drive anymore and
>>>>>>>>>> my external cd burner is very erractic.
>>>>>>>>>> there is only a SCSI port on the mac.
>>>>>>>>>> could i buy a new mac and find drivers to run paris 2.1?
>>>>>>>>>> i assume if i could, i would have access to firewire and some
way
>>>>>>>>>> to recover my audio files to the latest mac OS.
>>>>>>>>>> thanks guys
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #86169 is a reply to message #86168] |
Wed, 06 June 2007 00:10 |
jp
Messages: 65
Registered: June 2005
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Hey again James--
yeah, i did all that and
ran Disk Warrior, all the stuff--
i figure i'm totally fubarred at this point--
got to get real, buy a new system, forget my old audio files
and start over.
but thank YOU particularly for the help
jp
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Did you try disk first aid? If not, try to run Disk First Aid from the
OS
>9 installer CD.
>
>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>
>>oh, great--
>>now a lot more considerations
>>
>>:-)
>>
>>i'm at my wits end(not a far walk)
>>and can't figure out how to proceed
>>
>>my G3 doesn't respond to the maxtor,
>>my lacie cd writer only gets it right 20% of the time,
>>my audio files are unavailable thanks to the maxor
>>and my latest CD release is totally fubar
>>
>>help!
>>
>>(thanks-- sincerely-- James McCloskey)
>>jp
>>
>>
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>One more thing. Be aware that the firewire buss on blue and white
>>>G3's did not like more than one thing plugged into it...
>>>
>>>Dumb huh?
>>>
>>>I don't know when they fixed that, and it may apply to G4's as
>>>well.
>>>
>>>A FW hub solves it.
>>>
>>>Oh, also, B&W G3's will not run a current mac KB and Mouse!
>>>They only run the original leetle KB and the silly round mouse
>>>that came with them.
>>>
>>>Use a USB hub and the current KB's and mice work fine.
>>>
>>>DC
>>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #86172 is a reply to message #86169] |
Wed, 06 June 2007 00:30 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Was the Maxtor a boot able drive? If so, see if you can go under "Start up
disk" and see if it's in there? Is the drive making any noise like spin
up and spin down. The head arm might be stuck. You might want to try tapping
on the side of the drive lightly. Beware you could damage the drive doing
this how ever, what do you have to lose. I'd have a drive ready to transfer
files to.
The drive might be shot. Here are a few suggestions:
Call Apple, they have ways of retrieving data. I had a HD head crash and
the drive died. They told me they could transfer my data to the new drive
they were replacing on my ibook.
Disk Savers, this would cost some money though.
Last you could send the drive to me and I will see if I can get your data
back, when I have spare time to work on it.
What ever you decide to do, good luck!
I'll catch you tomorrow.
"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>
>Hey again James--
>yeah, i did all that and
>ran Disk Warrior, all the stuff--
>
>i figure i'm totally fubarred at this point--
>got to get real, buy a new system, forget my old audio files
>and start over.
>
>but thank YOU particularly for the help
>jp
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Did you try disk first aid? If not, try to run Disk First Aid from the
>OS
>>9 installer CD.
>>
>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>oh, great--
>>>now a lot more considerations
>>>
>>>:-)
>>>
>>>i'm at my wits end(not a far walk)
>>>and can't figure out how to proceed
>>>
>>>my G3 doesn't respond to the maxtor,
>>>my lacie cd writer only gets it right 20% of the time,
>>>my audio files are unavailable thanks to the maxor
>>>and my latest CD release is totally fubar
>>>
>>>help!
>>>
>>>(thanks-- sincerely-- James McCloskey)
>>>jp
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>One more thing. Be aware that the firewire buss on blue and white
>>>>G3's did not like more than one thing plugged into it...
>>>>
>>>>Dumb huh?
>>>>
>>>>I don't know when they fixed that, and it may apply to G4's as
>>>>well.
>>>>
>>>>A FW hub solves it.
>>>>
>>>>Oh, also, B&W G3's will not run a current mac KB and Mouse!
>>>>They only run the original leetle KB and the silly round mouse
>>>>that came with them.
>>>>
>>>>Use a USB hub and the current KB's and mice work fine.
>>>>
>>>>DC
>>>
>>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #86184 is a reply to message #86166] |
Wed, 06 June 2007 03:36 |
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Have you tried Disk Warrior?
Gantt
"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>
>oh, great--
>now a lot more considerations
>
>:-)
>
>i'm at my wits end(not a far walk)
>and can't figure out how to proceed
>
>my G3 doesn't respond to the maxtor,
>my lacie cd writer only gets it right 20% of the time,
>my audio files are unavailable thanks to the maxor
>and my latest CD release is totally fubar
>
>help!
>
>(thanks-- sincerely-- James McCloskey)
>jp
>
>
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>One more thing. Be aware that the firewire buss on blue and white
>>G3's did not like more than one thing plugged into it...
>>
>>Dumb huh?
>>
>>I don't know when they fixed that, and it may apply to G4's as
>>well.
>>
>>A FW hub solves it.
>>
>>Oh, also, B&W G3's will not run a current mac KB and Mouse!
>>They only run the original leetle KB and the silly round mouse
>>that came with them.
>>
>>Use a USB hub and the current KB's and mice work fine.
>>
>>DC
>
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #86230 is a reply to message #86172] |
Wed, 06 June 2007 14:34 |
jp
Messages: 65
Registered: June 2005
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James, once again a great idea.
i'll try it--"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Was the Maxtor a boot able drive? If so, see if you can go under "Start
up
>disk" and see if it's in there? Is the drive making any noise like spin
>up and spin down. The head arm might be stuck. You might want to try tapping
>on the side of the drive lightly. Beware you could damage the drive doing
>this how ever, what do you have to lose. I'd have a drive ready to transfer
>files to.
>
>The drive might be shot. Here are a few suggestions:
>
>Call Apple, they have ways of retrieving data. I had a HD head crash and
>the drive died. They told me they could transfer my data to the new drive
>they were replacing on my ibook.
>
>Disk Savers, this would cost some money though.
>
>Last you could send the drive to me and I will see if I can get your data
>back, when I have spare time to work on it.
>
>What ever you decide to do, good luck!
>
>I'll catch you tomorrow.
>
>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>
>>Hey again James--
>>yeah, i did all that and
>>ran Disk Warrior, all the stuff--
>>
>>i figure i'm totally fubarred at this point--
>>got to get real, buy a new system, forget my old audio files
>>and start over.
>>
>>but thank YOU particularly for the help
>>jp
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Did you try disk first aid? If not, try to run Disk First Aid from the
>>OS
>>>9 installer CD.
>>>
>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>oh, great--
>>>>now a lot more considerations
>>>>
>>>>:-)
>>>>
>>>>i'm at my wits end(not a far walk)
>>>>and can't figure out how to proceed
>>>>
>>>>my G3 doesn't respond to the maxtor,
>>>>my lacie cd writer only gets it right 20% of the time,
>>>>my audio files are unavailable thanks to the maxor
>>>>and my latest CD release is totally fubar
>>>>
>>>>help!
>>>>
>>>>(thanks-- sincerely-- James McCloskey)
>>>>jp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>One more thing. Be aware that the firewire buss on blue and white
>>>>>G3's did not like more than one thing plugged into it...
>>>>>
>>>>>Dumb huh?
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't know when they fixed that, and it may apply to G4's as
>>>>>well.
>>>>>
>>>>>A FW hub solves it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, also, B&W G3's will not run a current mac KB and Mouse!
>>>>>They only run the original leetle KB and the silly round mouse
>>>>>that came with them.
>>>>>
>>>>>Use a USB hub and the current KB's and mice work fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>DC
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #86234 is a reply to message #86229] |
Wed, 06 June 2007 17:09 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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This is gonna sound nuts, but have you put the maxtor in the freezer yet? If
you're not up on this lofi tech solution, holler back and I'll explain it
more.
AA
"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:466727c6$1@linux...
>
> Gannt, yes i idid--
> thanks for the thoguht--
> disk warrior hasn't seemed to help
> thanks
> jp
> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>Have you tried Disk Warrior?
>>
>>Gantt
>>
>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>oh, great--
>>>now a lot more considerations
>>>
>>>:-)
>>>
>>>i'm at my wits end(not a far walk)
>>>and can't figure out how to proceed
>>>
>>>my G3 doesn't respond to the maxtor,
>>>my lacie cd writer only gets it right 20% of the time,
>>>my audio files are unavailable thanks to the maxor
>>>and my latest CD release is totally fubar
>>>
>>>help!
>>>
>>>(thanks-- sincerely-- James McCloskey)
>>>jp
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>One more thing. Be aware that the firewire buss on blue and white
>>>>G3's did not like more than one thing plugged into it...
>>>>
>>>>Dumb huh?
>>>>
>>>>I don't know when they fixed that, and it may apply to G4's as
>>>>well.
>>>>
>>>>A FW hub solves it.
>>>>
>>>>Oh, also, B&W G3's will not run a current mac KB and Mouse!
>>>>They only run the original leetle KB and the silly round mouse
>>>>that came with them.
>>>>
>>>>Use a USB hub and the current KB's and mice work fine.
>>>>
>>>>DC
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #86235 is a reply to message #86234] |
Wed, 06 June 2007 17:19 |
JeffH
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
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Aaron Allen wrote:
> This is gonna sound nuts, but have you put the maxtor in the freezer yet? If
> you're not up on this lofi tech solution, holler back and I'll explain it
> more.
>
> AA
>
I was going to suggest that one!!!! Had it work on multiple
"unreadable" drives before. But once again, make sure you have one to
move everything to handy.
Jeff
>
> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:466727c6$1@linux...
>
>>Gannt, yes i idid--
>>thanks for the thoguht--
>>disk warrior hasn't seemed to help
>>thanks
>>jp
>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Have you tried Disk Warrior?
>>>
>>>Gantt
>>>
>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>oh, great--
>>>>now a lot more considerations
>>>>
>>>>:-)
>>>>
>>>>i'm at my wits end(not a far walk)
>>>>and can't figure out how to proceed
>>>>
>>>>my G3 doesn't respond to the maxtor,
>>>>my lacie cd writer only gets it right 20% of the time,
>>>>my audio files are unavailable thanks to the maxor
>>>>and my latest CD release is totally fubar
>>>>
>>>>help!
>>>>
>>>>(thanks-- sincerely-- James McCloskey)
>>>>jp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>One more thing. Be aware that the firewire buss on blue and white
>>>>>G3's did not like more than one thing plugged into it...
>>>>>
>>>>>Dumb huh?
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't know when they fixed that, and it may apply to G4's as
>>>>>well.
>>>>>
>>>>>A FW hub solves it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, also, B&W G3's will not run a current mac KB and Mouse!
>>>>>They only run the original leetle KB and the silly round mouse
>>>>>that came with them.
>>>>>
>>>>>Use a USB hub and the current KB's and mice work fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>DC
>>>>
>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #86241 is a reply to message #86172] |
Wed, 06 June 2007 20:43 |
jp
Messages: 65
Registered: June 2005
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James, one more time--
okay
system profiler finds:
"internal ATA 1 ID=O Hard Drive no volumes mounted"
this is the maxtor, but don't know where to go from here.
also, profiler says the unformatted size is 27.54 gig, though the maxtor
is 40???
jp
James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Was the Maxtor a boot able drive? If so, see if you can go under "Start
up
>disk" and see if it's in there? Is the drive making any noise like spin
>up and spin down. The head arm might be stuck. You might want to try tapping
>on the side of the drive lightly. Beware you could damage the drive doing
>this how ever, what do you have to lose. I'd have a drive ready to transfer
>files to.
>
>The drive might be shot. Here are a few suggestions:
>
>Call Apple, they have ways of retrieving data. I had a HD head crash and
>the drive died. They told me they could transfer my data to the new drive
>they were replacing on my ibook.
>
>Disk Savers, this would cost some money though.
>
>Last you could send the drive to me and I will see if I can get your data
>back, when I have spare time to work on it.
>
>What ever you decide to do, good luck!
>
>I'll catch you tomorrow.
>
>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>
>>Hey again James--
>>yeah, i did all that and
>>ran Disk Warrior, all the stuff--
>>
>>i figure i'm totally fubarred at this point--
>>got to get real, buy a new system, forget my old audio files
>>and start over.
>>
>>but thank YOU particularly for the help
>>jp
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Did you try disk first aid? If not, try to run Disk First Aid from the
>>OS
>>>9 installer CD.
>>>
>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>oh, great--
>>>>now a lot more considerations
>>>>
>>>>:-)
>>>>
>>>>i'm at my wits end(not a far walk)
>>>>and can't figure out how to proceed
>>>>
>>>>my G3 doesn't respond to the maxtor,
>>>>my lacie cd writer only gets it right 20% of the time,
>>>>my audio files are unavailable thanks to the maxor
>>>>and my latest CD release is totally fubar
>>>>
>>>>help!
>>>>
>>>>(thanks-- sincerely-- James McCloskey)
>>>>jp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>One more thing. Be aware that the firewire buss on blue and white
>>>>>G3's did not like more than one thing plugged into it...
>>>>>
>>>>>Dumb huh?
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't know when they fixed that, and it may apply to G4's as
>>>>>well.
>>>>>
>>>>>A FW hub solves it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, also, B&W G3's will not run a current mac KB and Mouse!
>>>>>They only run the original leetle KB and the silly round mouse
>>>>>that came with them.
>>>>>
>>>>>Use a USB hub and the current KB's and mice work fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>DC
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #86242 is a reply to message #86234] |
Wed, 06 June 2007 20:45 |
jp
Messages: 65
Registered: June 2005
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AA--
now this IS funny--
how long in the freezer?
plastic baggy?
next to the ice cream or fish sticks?
I'm ready to try anything
thanks
jp
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>This is gonna sound nuts, but have you put the maxtor in the freezer yet?
If
>you're not up on this lofi tech solution, holler back and I'll explain it
>more.
>
>AA
>
>
>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:466727c6$1@linux...
>>
>> Gannt, yes i idid--
>> thanks for the thoguht--
>> disk warrior hasn't seemed to help
>> thanks
>> jp
>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Have you tried Disk Warrior?
>>>
>>>Gantt
>>>
>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>oh, great--
>>>>now a lot more considerations
>>>>
>>>>:-)
>>>>
>>>>i'm at my wits end(not a far walk)
>>>>and can't figure out how to proceed
>>>>
>>>>my G3 doesn't respond to the maxtor,
>>>>my lacie cd writer only gets it right 20% of the time,
>>>>my audio files are unavailable thanks to the maxor
>>>>and my latest CD release is totally fubar
>>>>
>>>>help!
>>>>
>>>>(thanks-- sincerely-- James McCloskey)
>>>>jp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>One more thing. Be aware that the firewire buss on blue and white
>>>>>G3's did not like more than one thing plugged into it...
>>>>>
>>>>>Dumb huh?
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't know when they fixed that, and it may apply to G4's as
>>>>>well.
>>>>>
>>>>>A FW hub solves it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, also, B&W G3's will not run a current mac KB and Mouse!
>>>>>They only run the original leetle KB and the silly round mouse
>>>>>that came with them.
>>>>>
>>>>>Use a USB hub and the current KB's and mice work fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>DC
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #86243 is a reply to message #86241] |
Wed, 06 June 2007 20:52 |
jp
Messages: 65
Registered: June 2005
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oh, and no--
the maxor doesn't show up under "start up disks"--
it's curious that no driver is listed in the system profiler for the maxtor,
though it's worked for a number of years and only recently started to flake
out--
i'm thinking of going with the freezer suggestions next, though have no idea
what this means, how cold to get it,when to take it out,
or what the condensation factor will have....
or, for that matter, how to cook it later and whether a marinade is appropriate
or a simple
searing in a hot pan with a little olive oil...
the whole thing is getting pretty funny in a sorta frustrating way
thanks again again
jp
"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>
>James, one more time--
>okay
>system profiler finds:
>"internal ATA 1 ID=O Hard Drive no volumes mounted"
>this is the maxtor, but don't know where to go from here.
>also, profiler says the unformatted size is 27.54 gig, though the maxtor
>is 40???
>jp
>
>
>
>
>James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Was the Maxtor a boot able drive? If so, see if you can go under "Start
>up
>>disk" and see if it's in there? Is the drive making any noise like spin
>>up and spin down. The head arm might be stuck. You might want to try
tapping
>>on the side of the drive lightly. Beware you could damage the drive doing
>>this how ever, what do you have to lose. I'd have a drive ready to transfer
>>files to.
>>
>>The drive might be shot. Here are a few suggestions:
>>
>>Call Apple, they have ways of retrieving data. I had a HD head crash
and
>>the drive died. They told me they could transfer my data to the new drive
>>they were replacing on my ibook.
>>
>>Disk Savers, this would cost some money though.
>>
>>Last you could send the drive to me and I will see if I can get your data
>>back, when I have spare time to work on it.
>>
>>What ever you decide to do, good luck!
>>
>>I'll catch you tomorrow.
>>
>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hey again James--
>>>yeah, i did all that and
>>>ran Disk Warrior, all the stuff--
>>>
>>>i figure i'm totally fubarred at this point--
>>>got to get real, buy a new system, forget my old audio files
>>>and start over.
>>>
>>>but thank YOU particularly for the help
>>>jp
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Did you try disk first aid? If not, try to run Disk First Aid from the
>>>OS
>>>>9 installer CD.
>>>>
>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>oh, great--
>>>>>now a lot more considerations
>>>>>
>>>>>:-)
>>>>>
>>>>>i'm at my wits end(not a far walk)
>>>>>and can't figure out how to proceed
>>>>>
>>>>>my G3 doesn't respond to the maxtor,
>>>>>my lacie cd writer only gets it right 20% of the time,
>>>>>my audio files are unavailable thanks to the maxor
>>>>>and my latest CD release is totally fubar
>>>>>
>>>>>help!
>>>>>
>>>>>(thanks-- sincerely-- James McCloskey)
>>>>>jp
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>One more thing. Be aware that the firewire buss on blue and white
>>>>>>G3's did not like more than one thing plugged into it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dumb huh?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't know when they fixed that, and it may apply to G4's as
>>>>>>well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A FW hub solves it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Oh, also, B&W G3's will not run a current mac KB and Mouse!
>>>>>>They only run the original leetle KB and the silly round mouse
>>>>>>that came with them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Use a USB hub and the current KB's and mice work fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>DC
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #86245 is a reply to message #86242] |
Wed, 06 June 2007 21:58 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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Senior Member |
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I usually roll 'em in a plastic bag with silica gel to keep the moisture
down for about a half hour. Keep it away from 'wet' items like the ice tray
or ice cream cardboard containers, anything that has frost on it if
possible. Best if you have access to use a frost free fridge. When you pull
the drive out, have everything else ready to plug, boot and roll because
your time will be limited if it does help. Sometimes this works, sometimes
not.
Rinse/repeat until the drive finishes off or you get all the data you're
after. Toss the drive afterward in the trash heap if this does work because
it's a goner for useful data storage.
AA
"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:46677f51$1@linux...
>
> AA--
> now this IS funny--
> how long in the freezer?
> plastic baggy?
> next to the ice cream or fish sticks?
> I'm ready to try anything
> thanks
> jp
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>This is gonna sound nuts, but have you put the maxtor in the freezer yet?
> If
>>you're not up on this lofi tech solution, holler back and I'll explain it
>
>>more.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:466727c6$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Gannt, yes i idid--
>>> thanks for the thoguht--
>>> disk warrior hasn't seemed to help
>>> thanks
>>> jp
>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Have you tried Disk Warrior?
>>>>
>>>>Gantt
>>>>
>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>oh, great--
>>>>>now a lot more considerations
>>>>>
>>>>>:-)
>>>>>
>>>>>i'm at my wits end(not a far walk)
>>>>>and can't figure out how to proceed
>>>>>
>>>>>my G3 doesn't respond to the maxtor,
>>>>>my lacie cd writer only gets it right 20% of the time,
>>>>>my audio files are unavailable thanks to the maxor
>>>>>and my latest CD release is totally fubar
>>>>>
>>>>>help!
>>>>>
>>>>>(thanks-- sincerely-- James McCloskey)
>>>>>jp
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>One more thing. Be aware that the firewire buss on blue and white
>>>>>>G3's did not like more than one thing plugged into it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dumb huh?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't know when they fixed that, and it may apply to G4's as
>>>>>>well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A FW hub solves it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Oh, also, B&W G3's will not run a current mac KB and Mouse!
>>>>>>They only run the original leetle KB and the silly round mouse
>>>>>>that came with them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Use a USB hub and the current KB's and mice work fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>DC
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #86247 is a reply to message #86243] |
Wed, 06 June 2007 22:01 |
JeffH
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
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jp
I usually stick them in my freezer for about an hour (no joke!!!!).
Pull it out and immediate reconnet...Start copying the most important
files first. Had a couple that I didn't make through the whole drive
beofre it died...then it realy died.
Jeff
wrote:
> oh, and no--
> the maxor doesn't show up under "start up disks"--
> it's curious that no driver is listed in the system profiler for the maxtor,
> though it's worked for a number of years and only recently started to flake
> out--
> i'm thinking of going with the freezer suggestions next, though have no idea
> what this means, how cold to get it,when to take it out,
> or what the condensation factor will have....
> or, for that matter, how to cook it later and whether a marinade is appropriate
> or a simple
> searing in a hot pan with a little olive oil...
> the whole thing is getting pretty funny in a sorta frustrating way
> thanks again again
> jp
>
> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>
>>James, one more time--
>>okay
>>system profiler finds:
>>"internal ATA 1 ID=O Hard Drive no volumes mounted"
>>this is the maxtor, but don't know where to go from here.
>>also, profiler says the unformatted size is 27.54 gig, though the maxtor
>>is 40???
>>jp
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Was the Maxtor a boot able drive? If so, see if you can go under "Start
>>
>>up
>>
>>>disk" and see if it's in there? Is the drive making any noise like spin
>>>up and spin down. The head arm might be stuck. You might want to try
>
> tapping
>
>>>on the side of the drive lightly. Beware you could damage the drive doing
>>>this how ever, what do you have to lose. I'd have a drive ready to transfer
>>>files to.
>>>
>>>The drive might be shot. Here are a few suggestions:
>>>
>>>Call Apple, they have ways of retrieving data. I had a HD head crash
>
> and
>
>>>the drive died. They told me they could transfer my data to the new drive
>>>they were replacing on my ibook.
>>>
>>>Disk Savers, this would cost some money though.
>>>
>>>Last you could send the drive to me and I will see if I can get your data
>>>back, when I have spare time to work on it.
>>>
>>>What ever you decide to do, good luck!
>>>
>>>I'll catch you tomorrow.
>>>
>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hey again James--
>>>>yeah, i did all that and
>>>>ran Disk Warrior, all the stuff--
>>>>
>>>>i figure i'm totally fubarred at this point--
>>>>got to get real, buy a new system, forget my old audio files
>>>>and start over.
>>>>
>>>>but thank YOU particularly for the help
>>>>jp
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Did you try disk first aid? If not, try to run Disk First Aid from the
>>>>
>>>>OS
>>>>
>>>>>9 installer CD.
>>>>>
>>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>oh, great--
>>>>>>now a lot more considerations
>>>>>>
>>>>>>:-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>i'm at my wits end(not a far walk)
>>>>>>and can't figure out how to proceed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>my G3 doesn't respond to the maxtor,
>>>>>>my lacie cd writer only gets it right 20% of the time,
>>>>>>my audio files are unavailable thanks to the maxor
>>>>>>and my latest CD release is totally fubar
>>>>>>
>>>>>>help!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(thanks-- sincerely-- James McCloskey)
>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>One more thing. Be aware that the firewire buss on blue and white
>>>>>>>G3's did not like more than one thing plugged into it...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dumb huh?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't know when they fixed that, and it may apply to G4's as
>>>>>>>well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>A FW hub solves it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Oh, also, B&W G3's will not run a current mac KB and Mouse!
>>>>>>>They only run the original leetle KB and the silly round mouse
>>>>>>>that came with them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Use a USB hub and the current KB's and mice work fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>DC
>>>>>>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #86318 is a reply to message #86243] |
Fri, 08 June 2007 00:51 |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
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Senior Member |
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What is funny, is that you "freeze"drives to get the data from it, but you
'"bake" audio tapes to get the data from them.....
Who woulda thought??
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
0414 913 247
"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:466780ea@linux...
>
> oh, and no--
> the maxor doesn't show up under "start up disks"--
> it's curious that no driver is listed in the system profiler for the
> maxtor,
> though it's worked for a number of years and only recently started to
> flake
> out--
> i'm thinking of going with the freezer suggestions next, though have no
> idea
> what this means, how cold to get it,when to take it out,
> or what the condensation factor will have....
> or, for that matter, how to cook it later and whether a marinade is
> appropriate
> or a simple
> searing in a hot pan with a little olive oil...
> the whole thing is getting pretty funny in a sorta frustrating way
> thanks again again
> jp
>
> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>
>>James, one more time--
>>okay
>>system profiler finds:
>>"internal ATA 1 ID=O Hard Drive no volumes mounted"
>>this is the maxtor, but don't know where to go from here.
>>also, profiler says the unformatted size is 27.54 gig, though the maxtor
>>is 40???
>>jp
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Was the Maxtor a boot able drive? If so, see if you can go under "Start
>>up
>>>disk" and see if it's in there? Is the drive making any noise like spin
>>>up and spin down. The head arm might be stuck. You might want to try
> tapping
>>>on the side of the drive lightly. Beware you could damage the drive
>>>doing
>>>this how ever, what do you have to lose. I'd have a drive ready to
>>>transfer
>>>files to.
>>>
>>>The drive might be shot. Here are a few suggestions:
>>>
>>>Call Apple, they have ways of retrieving data. I had a HD head crash
> and
>>>the drive died. They told me they could transfer my data to the new drive
>>>they were replacing on my ibook.
>>>
>>>Disk Savers, this would cost some money though.
>>>
>>>Last you could send the drive to me and I will see if I can get your data
>>>back, when I have spare time to work on it.
>>>
>>>What ever you decide to do, good luck!
>>>
>>>I'll catch you tomorrow.
>>>
>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hey again James--
>>>>yeah, i did all that and
>>>>ran Disk Warrior, all the stuff--
>>>>
>>>>i figure i'm totally fubarred at this point--
>>>>got to get real, buy a new system, forget my old audio files
>>>>and start over.
>>>>
>>>>but thank YOU particularly for the help
>>>>jp
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Did you try disk first aid? If not, try to run Disk First Aid from the
>>>>OS
>>>>>9 installer CD.
>>>>>
>>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>oh, great--
>>>>>>now a lot more considerations
>>>>>>
>>>>>>:-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>i'm at my wits end(not a far walk)
>>>>>>and can't figure out how to proceed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>my G3 doesn't respond to the maxtor,
>>>>>>my lacie cd writer only gets it right 20% of the time,
>>>>>>my audio files are unavailable thanks to the maxor
>>>>>>and my latest CD release is totally fubar
>>>>>>
>>>>>>help!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(thanks-- sincerely-- James McCloskey)
>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>One more thing. Be aware that the firewire buss on blue and white
>>>>>>>G3's did not like more than one thing plugged into it...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dumb huh?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't know when they fixed that, and it may apply to G4's as
>>>>>>>well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>A FW hub solves it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Oh, also, B&W G3's will not run a current mac KB and Mouse!
>>>>>>>They only run the original leetle KB and the silly round mouse
>>>>>>>that came with them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Use a USB hub and the current KB's and mice work fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>DC
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #86323 is a reply to message #86318] |
Fri, 08 June 2007 02:02 |
erlilo
Messages: 405
Registered: June 2005
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Senior Member |
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To bake a cake, sorry, a tape;-), wasn't it to get rid of the copy effect we
often heard before the tune started?
Erling
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> skrev i en meddelelse
news:46690c43@linux...
> What is funny, is that you "freeze"drives to get the data from it, but you
> '"bake" audio tapes to get the data from them.....
> Who woulda thought??
> --
> Martin Harrington
> www.lendanear-sound.com
> 0414 913 247
>
> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:466780ea@linux...
>>
>> oh, and no--
>> the maxor doesn't show up under "start up disks"--
>> it's curious that no driver is listed in the system profiler for the
>> maxtor,
>> though it's worked for a number of years and only recently started to
>> flake
>> out--
>> i'm thinking of going with the freezer suggestions next, though have no
>> idea
>> what this means, how cold to get it,when to take it out,
>> or what the condensation factor will have....
>> or, for that matter, how to cook it later and whether a marinade is
>> appropriate
>> or a simple
>> searing in a hot pan with a little olive oil...
>> the whole thing is getting pretty funny in a sorta frustrating way
>> thanks again again
>> jp
>>
>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>James, one more time--
>>>okay
>>>system profiler finds:
>>>"internal ATA 1 ID=O Hard Drive no volumes mounted"
>>>this is the maxtor, but don't know where to go from here.
>>>also, profiler says the unformatted size is 27.54 gig, though the maxtor
>>>is 40???
>>>jp
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Was the Maxtor a boot able drive? If so, see if you can go under "Start
>>>up
>>>>disk" and see if it's in there? Is the drive making any noise like
>>>>spin
>>>>up and spin down. The head arm might be stuck. You might want to try
>> tapping
>>>>on the side of the drive lightly. Beware you could damage the drive
>>>>doing
>>>>this how ever, what do you have to lose. I'd have a drive ready to
>>>>transfer
>>>>files to.
>>>>
>>>>The drive might be shot. Here are a few suggestions:
>>>>
>>>>Call Apple, they have ways of retrieving data. I had a HD head crash
>> and
>>>>the drive died. They told me they could transfer my data to the new
>>>>drive
>>>>they were replacing on my ibook.
>>>>
>>>>Disk Savers, this would cost some money though.
>>>>
>>>>Last you could send the drive to me and I will see if I can get your
>>>>data
>>>>back, when I have spare time to work on it.
>>>>
>>>>What ever you decide to do, good luck!
>>>>
>>>>I'll catch you tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hey again James--
>>>>>yeah, i did all that and
>>>>>ran Disk Warrior, all the stuff--
>>>>>
>>>>>i figure i'm totally fubarred at this point--
>>>>>got to get real, buy a new system, forget my old audio files
>>>>>and start over.
>>>>>
>>>>>but thank YOU particularly for the help
>>>>>jp
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Did you try disk first aid? If not, try to run Disk First Aid from
>>>>>>the
>>>>>OS
>>>>>>9 installer CD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>oh, great--
>>>>>>>now a lot more considerations
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>:-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i'm at my wits end(not a far walk)
>>>>>>>and can't figure out how to proceed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>my G3 doesn't respond to the maxtor,
>>>>>>>my lacie cd writer only gets it right 20% of the time,
>>>>>>>my audio files are unavailable thanks to the maxor
>>>>>>>and my latest CD release is totally fubar
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>help!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(thanks-- sincerely-- James McCloskey)
>>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>One more thing. Be aware that the firewire buss on blue and white
>>>>>>>>G3's did not like more than one thing plugged into it...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Dumb huh?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I don't know when they fixed that, and it may apply to G4's as
>>>>>>>>well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>A FW hub solves it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Oh, also, B&W G3's will not run a current mac KB and Mouse!
>>>>>>>>They only run the original leetle KB and the silly round mouse
>>>>>>>>that came with them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Use a USB hub and the current KB's and mice work fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>DC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #86387 is a reply to message #86323] |
Sat, 09 June 2007 11:10 |
jp
Messages: 65
Registered: June 2005
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Member |
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the technical answer to this is a little beyond me--
i seem to remember an enginner, while describing
thie bake (no shake) technique, saying that it had to do
with removing any accumulated humidity and getting
those little particles to stand up straight.
a "real" engineer could give you the straight dope on
this. i am sure that you can only bake your tape once,
and you'd better have a way to store the data immediately-- curiously again,
just like freeze drying a hard disc.
jp
"erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>To bake a cake, sorry, a tape;-), wasn't it to get rid of the copy effect
we
>often heard before the tune started?
>
>Erling
>
>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> skrev i en meddelelse
>news:46690c43@linux...
>> What is funny, is that you "freeze"drives to get the data from it, but
you
>> '"bake" audio tapes to get the data from them.....
>> Who woulda thought??
>> --
>> Martin Harrington
>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>> 0414 913 247
>>
>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:466780ea@linux...
>>>
>>> oh, and no--
>>> the maxor doesn't show up under "start up disks"--
>>> it's curious that no driver is listed in the system profiler for the
>>> maxtor,
>>> though it's worked for a number of years and only recently started to
>>> flake
>>> out--
>>> i'm thinking of going with the freezer suggestions next, though have
no
>>> idea
>>> what this means, how cold to get it,when to take it out,
>>> or what the condensation factor will have....
>>> or, for that matter, how to cook it later and whether a marinade is
>>> appropriate
>>> or a simple
>>> searing in a hot pan with a little olive oil...
>>> the whole thing is getting pretty funny in a sorta frustrating way
>>> thanks again again
>>> jp
>>>
>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>James, one more time--
>>>>okay
>>>>system profiler finds:
>>>>"internal ATA 1 ID=O Hard Drive no volumes mounted"
>>>>this is the maxtor, but don't know where to go from here.
>>>>also, profiler says the unformatted size is 27.54 gig, though the maxtor
>>>>is 40???
>>>>jp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Was the Maxtor a boot able drive? If so, see if you can go under "Start
>>>>up
>>>>>disk" and see if it's in there? Is the drive making any noise like
>>>>>spin
>>>>>up and spin down. The head arm might be stuck. You might want to try
>>> tapping
>>>>>on the side of the drive lightly. Beware you could damage the drive
>>>>>doing
>>>>>this how ever, what do you have to lose. I'd have a drive ready to
>>>>>transfer
>>>>>files to.
>>>>>
>>>>>The drive might be shot. Here are a few suggestions:
>>>>>
>>>>>Call Apple, they have ways of retrieving data. I had a HD head crash
>>> and
>>>>>the drive died. They told me they could transfer my data to the new
>>>>>drive
>>>>>they were replacing on my ibook.
>>>>>
>>>>>Disk Savers, this would cost some money though.
>>>>>
>>>>>Last you could send the drive to me and I will see if I can get your
>>>>>data
>>>>>back, when I have spare time to work on it.
>>>>>
>>>>>What ever you decide to do, good luck!
>>>>>
>>>>>I'll catch you tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey again James--
>>>>>>yeah, i did all that and
>>>>>>ran Disk Warrior, all the stuff--
>>>>>>
>>>>>>i figure i'm totally fubarred at this point--
>>>>>>got to get real, buy a new system, forget my old audio files
>>>>>>and start over.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>but thank YOU particularly for the help
>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Did you try disk first aid? If not, try to run Disk First Aid from
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>OS
>>>>>>>9 installer CD.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>oh, great--
>>>>>>>>now a lot more considerations
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>:-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>i'm at my wits end(not a far walk)
>>>>>>>>and can't figure out how to proceed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>my G3 doesn't respond to the maxtor,
>>>>>>>>my lacie cd writer only gets it right 20% of the time,
>>>>>>>>my audio files are unavailable thanks to the maxor
>>>>>>>>and my latest CD release is totally fubar
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>help!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>(thanks-- sincerely-- James McCloskey)
>>>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>One more thing. Be aware that the firewire buss on blue and white
>>>>>>>>>G3's did not like more than one thing plugged into it...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Dumb huh?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I don't know when they fixed that, and it may apply to G4's as
>>>>>>>>>well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>A FW hub solves it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Oh, also, B&W G3's will not run a current mac KB and Mouse!
>>>>>>>>>They only run the original leetle KB and the silly round mouse
>>>>>>>>>that came with them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Use a USB hub and the current KB's and mice work fine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>DC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #86402 is a reply to message #86387] |
Sat, 09 June 2007 16:56 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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Senior Member |
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|
Hey JP.. I have another idea. Buy a cheap USB case and stick the drive in
it. Boot another computer and plug it in. See if you get the same results.
This eliminates completely it being your mac IDE bus. Also, I don't know,
but is it possible to boot that machine from USB? Might be something else to
try and having a USB removable IDE-> USB is really not a bad thing.
AA
"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:466aed12$1@linux...
>
> the technical answer to this is a little beyond me--
> i seem to remember an enginner, while describing
> thie bake (no shake) technique, saying that it had to do
> with removing any accumulated humidity and getting
> those little particles to stand up straight.
> a "real" engineer could give you the straight dope on
> this. i am sure that you can only bake your tape once,
> and you'd better have a way to store the data immediately-- curiously
> again,
> just like freeze drying a hard disc.
> jp
>
> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>To bake a cake, sorry, a tape;-), wasn't it to get rid of the copy effect
> we
>>often heard before the tune started?
>>
>>Erling
>>
>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> skrev i en meddelelse
>>news:46690c43@linux...
>>> What is funny, is that you "freeze"drives to get the data from it, but
> you
>>> '"bake" audio tapes to get the data from them.....
>>> Who woulda thought??
>>> --
>>> Martin Harrington
>>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>>> 0414 913 247
>>>
>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:466780ea@linux...
>>>>
>>>> oh, and no--
>>>> the maxor doesn't show up under "start up disks"--
>>>> it's curious that no driver is listed in the system profiler for the
>
>>>> maxtor,
>>>> though it's worked for a number of years and only recently started to
>
>>>> flake
>>>> out--
>>>> i'm thinking of going with the freezer suggestions next, though have
> no
>>>> idea
>>>> what this means, how cold to get it,when to take it out,
>>>> or what the condensation factor will have....
>>>> or, for that matter, how to cook it later and whether a marinade is
>>>> appropriate
>>>> or a simple
>>>> searing in a hot pan with a little olive oil...
>>>> the whole thing is getting pretty funny in a sorta frustrating way
>>>> thanks again again
>>>> jp
>>>>
>>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>James, one more time--
>>>>>okay
>>>>>system profiler finds:
>>>>>"internal ATA 1 ID=O Hard Drive no volumes mounted"
>>>>>this is the maxtor, but don't know where to go from here.
>>>>>also, profiler says the unformatted size is 27.54 gig, though the
>>>>>maxtor
>>>>>is 40???
>>>>>jp
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Was the Maxtor a boot able drive? If so, see if you can go under
>>>>>>"Start
>>>>>up
>>>>>>disk" and see if it's in there? Is the drive making any noise like
>
>>>>>>spin
>>>>>>up and spin down. The head arm might be stuck. You might want to try
>>>> tapping
>>>>>>on the side of the drive lightly. Beware you could damage the drive
>
>>>>>>doing
>>>>>>this how ever, what do you have to lose. I'd have a drive ready to
>
>>>>>>transfer
>>>>>>files to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The drive might be shot. Here are a few suggestions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Call Apple, they have ways of retrieving data. I had a HD head crash
>>>> and
>>>>>>the drive died. They told me they could transfer my data to the new
>
>>>>>>drive
>>>>>>they were replacing on my ibook.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Disk Savers, this would cost some money though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Last you could send the drive to me and I will see if I can get your
>
>>>>>>data
>>>>>>back, when I have spare time to work on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What ever you decide to do, good luck!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'll catch you tomorrow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hey again James--
>>>>>>>yeah, i did all that and
>>>>>>>ran Disk Warrior, all the stuff--
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i figure i'm totally fubarred at this point--
>>>>>>>got to get real, buy a new system, forget my old audio files
>>>>>>>and start over.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>but thank YOU particularly for the help
>>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Did you try disk first aid? If not, try to run Disk First Aid from
>
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>OS
>>>>>>>>9 installer CD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>oh, great--
>>>>>>>>>now a lot more considerations
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>:-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>i'm at my wits end(not a far walk)
>>>>>>>>>and can't figure out how to proceed
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>my G3 doesn't respond to the maxtor,
>>>>>>>>>my lacie cd writer only gets it right 20% of the time,
>>>>>>>>>my audio files are unavailable thanks to the maxor
>>>>>>>>>and my latest CD release is totally fubar
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>help!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>(thanks-- sincerely-- James McCloskey)
>>>>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>One more thing. Be aware that the firewire buss on blue and white
>>>>>>>>>>G3's did not like more than one thing plugged into it...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Dumb huh?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I don't know when they fixed that, and it may apply to G4's as
>>>>>>>>>>well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>A FW hub solves it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Oh, also, B&W G3's will not run a current mac KB and Mouse!
>>>>>>>>>>They only run the original leetle KB and the silly round mouse
>>>>>>>>>>that came with them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Use a USB hub and the current KB's and mice work fine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>DC
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #86419 is a reply to message #86402] |
Sun, 10 June 2007 10:09 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Senior Member |
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I think a FireWire case would be a better bet. Those old G3s only had the
slower USB v1.
Back to the question, does the drive make any noise?
James
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Hey JP.. I have another idea. Buy a cheap USB case and stick the drive in
>it. Boot another computer and plug it in. See if you get the same results.
>This eliminates completely it being your mac IDE bus. Also, I don't know,
>but is it possible to boot that machine from USB? Might be something else
to
>try and having a USB removable IDE-> USB is really not a bad thing.
>
>AA
>
>
>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:466aed12$1@linux...
>>
>> the technical answer to this is a little beyond me--
>> i seem to remember an enginner, while describing
>> thie bake (no shake) technique, saying that it had to do
>> with removing any accumulated humidity and getting
>> those little particles to stand up straight.
>> a "real" engineer could give you the straight dope on
>> this. i am sure that you can only bake your tape once,
>> and you'd better have a way to store the data immediately-- curiously
>> again,
>> just like freeze drying a hard disc.
>> jp
>>
>> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>>To bake a cake, sorry, a tape;-), wasn't it to get rid of the copy effect
>> we
>>>often heard before the tune started?
>>>
>>>Erling
>>>
>>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>news:46690c43@linux...
>>>> What is funny, is that you "freeze"drives to get the data from it, but
>> you
>>>> '"bake" audio tapes to get the data from them.....
>>>> Who woulda thought??
>>>> --
>>>> Martin Harrington
>>>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>> 0414 913 247
>>>>
>>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:466780ea@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> oh, and no--
>>>>> the maxor doesn't show up under "start up disks"--
>>>>> it's curious that no driver is listed in the system profiler for the
>>
>>>>> maxtor,
>>>>> though it's worked for a number of years and only recently started
to
>>
>>>>> flake
>>>>> out--
>>>>> i'm thinking of going with the freezer suggestions next, though have
>> no
>>>>> idea
>>>>> what this means, how cold to get it,when to take it out,
>>>>> or what the condensation factor will have....
>>>>> or, for that matter, how to cook it later and whether a marinade is
>>>>> appropriate
>>>>> or a simple
>>>>> searing in a hot pan with a little olive oil...
>>>>> the whole thing is getting pretty funny in a sorta frustrating way
>>>>> thanks again again
>>>>> jp
>>>>>
>>>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James, one more time--
>>>>>>okay
>>>>>>system profiler finds:
>>>>>>"internal ATA 1 ID=O Hard Drive no volumes mounted"
>>>>>>this is the maxtor, but don't know where to go from here.
>>>>>>also, profiler says the unformatted size is 27.54 gig, though the
>>>>>>maxtor
>>>>>>is 40???
>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Was the Maxtor a boot able drive? If so, see if you can go under
>>>>>>>"Start
>>>>>>up
>>>>>>>disk" and see if it's in there? Is the drive making any noise like
>>
>>>>>>>spin
>>>>>>>up and spin down. The head arm might be stuck. You might want to
try
>>>>> tapping
>>>>>>>on the side of the drive lightly. Beware you could damage the drive
>>
>>>>>>>doing
>>>>>>>this how ever, what do you have to lose. I'd have a drive ready
to
>>
>>>>>>>transfer
>>>>>>>files to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The drive might be shot. Here are a few suggestions:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Call Apple, they have ways of retrieving data. I had a HD head crash
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>the drive died. They told me they could transfer my data to the new
>>
>>>>>>>drive
>>>>>>>they were replacing on my ibook.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Disk Savers, this would cost some money though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Last you could send the drive to me and I will see if I can get your
>>
>>>>>>>data
>>>>>>>back, when I have spare time to work on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What ever you decide to do, good luck!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'll catch you tomorrow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hey again James--
>>>>>>>>yeah, i did all that and
>>>>>>>>ran Disk Warrior, all the stuff--
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>i figure i'm totally fubarred at this point--
>>>>>>>>got to get real, buy a new system, forget my old audio files
>>>>>>>>and start over.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>but thank YOU particularly for the help
>>>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Did you try disk first aid? If not, try to run Disk First Aid from
>>
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>OS
>>>>>>>>>9 installer CD.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>oh, great--
>>>>>>>>>>now a lot more considerations
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>:-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>i'm at my wits end(not a far walk)
>>>>>>>>>>and can't figure out how to proceed
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>my G3 doesn't respond to the maxtor,
>>>>>>>>>>my lacie cd writer only gets it right 20% of the time,
>>>>>>>>>>my audio files are unavailable thanks to the maxor
>>>>>>>>>>and my latest CD release is totally fubar
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>help!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>(thanks-- sincerely-- James McCloskey)
>>>>>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>One more thing. Be aware that the firewire buss on blue and white
>>>>>>>>>>>G3's did not like more than one thing plugged into it...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Dumb huh?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I don't know when they fixed that, and it may apply to G4's as
>>>>>>>>>>>well.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>A FW hub solves it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Oh, also, B&W G3's will not run a current mac KB and Mouse!
>>>>>>>>>>>They only run the original leetle KB and the silly round mouse
>>>>>>>>>>>that came with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Use a USB hub and the current KB's and mice work fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>DC
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #86500 is a reply to message #86419] |
Tue, 12 June 2007 11:56 |
jp
Messages: 65
Registered: June 2005
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Member |
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James--
yeah, the thing seems to whine a bit at times,
but it was always quieter than the HD that came with the mac--
i took off the jumper (j50), which was supposed to allow the Maxotr
to turn into a slave, and then the Maxtor didn't show up
at all!! not even in the system profiler.
i regret that i don't understand this stuff more.
but thanks to you--
jp
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I think a FireWire case would be a better bet. Those old G3s only had the
>slower USB v1.
>
>Back to the question, does the drive make any noise?
>
>James
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Hey JP.. I have another idea. Buy a cheap USB case and stick the drive
in
>
>>it. Boot another computer and plug it in. See if you get the same results.
>
>>This eliminates completely it being your mac IDE bus. Also, I don't know,
>
>>but is it possible to boot that machine from USB? Might be something else
>to
>>try and having a USB removable IDE-> USB is really not a bad thing.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:466aed12$1@linux...
>>>
>>> the technical answer to this is a little beyond me--
>>> i seem to remember an enginner, while describing
>>> thie bake (no shake) technique, saying that it had to do
>>> with removing any accumulated humidity and getting
>>> those little particles to stand up straight.
>>> a "real" engineer could give you the straight dope on
>>> this. i am sure that you can only bake your tape once,
>>> and you'd better have a way to store the data immediately-- curiously
>
>>> again,
>>> just like freeze drying a hard disc.
>>> jp
>>>
>>> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>>>To bake a cake, sorry, a tape;-), wasn't it to get rid of the copy effect
>>> we
>>>>often heard before the tune started?
>>>>
>>>>Erling
>>>>
>>>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>news:46690c43@linux...
>>>>> What is funny, is that you "freeze"drives to get the data from it,
but
>>> you
>>>>> '"bake" audio tapes to get the data from them.....
>>>>> Who woulda thought??
>>>>> --
>>>>> Martin Harrington
>>>>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>>> 0414 913 247
>>>>>
>>>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:466780ea@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> oh, and no--
>>>>>> the maxor doesn't show up under "start up disks"--
>>>>>> it's curious that no driver is listed in the system profiler for
the
>>>
>>>>>> maxtor,
>>>>>> though it's worked for a number of years and only recently started
>to
>>>
>>>>>> flake
>>>>>> out--
>>>>>> i'm thinking of going with the freezer suggestions next, though have
>>> no
>>>>>> idea
>>>>>> what this means, how cold to get it,when to take it out,
>>>>>> or what the condensation factor will have....
>>>>>> or, for that matter, how to cook it later and whether a marinade is
>>>>>> appropriate
>>>>>> or a simple
>>>>>> searing in a hot pan with a little olive oil...
>>>>>> the whole thing is getting pretty funny in a sorta frustrating way
>>>>>> thanks again again
>>>>>> jp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>James, one more time--
>>>>>>>okay
>>>>>>>system profiler finds:
>>>>>>>"internal ATA 1 ID=O Hard Drive no volumes mounted"
>>>>>>>this is the maxtor, but don't know where to go from here.
>>>>>>>also, profiler says the unformatted size is 27.54 gig, though the
>>>>>>>maxtor
>>>>>>>is 40???
>>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Was the Maxtor a boot able drive? If so, see if you can go under
>
>>>>>>>>"Start
>>>>>>>up
>>>>>>>>disk" and see if it's in there? Is the drive making any noise like
>>>
>>>>>>>>spin
>>>>>>>>up and spin down. The head arm might be stuck. You might want to
>try
>>>>>> tapping
>>>>>>>>on the side of the drive lightly. Beware you could damage the drive
>>>
>>>>>>>>doing
>>>>>>>>this how ever, what do you have to lose. I'd have a drive ready
>to
>>>
>>>>>>>>transfer
>>>>>>>>files to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The drive might be shot. Here are a few suggestions:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Call Apple, they have ways of retrieving data. I had a HD head crash
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>the drive died. They told me they could transfer my data to the new
>>>
>>>>>>>>drive
>>>>>>>>they were replacing on my ibook.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Disk Savers, this would cost some money though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Last you could send the drive to me and I will see if I can get your
>>>
>>>>>>>>data
>>>>>>>>back, when I have spare time to work on it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What ever you decide to do, good luck!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'll catch you tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hey again James--
>>>>>>>>>yeah, i did all that and
>>>>>>>>>ran Disk Warrior, all the stuff--
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>i figure i'm totally fubarred at this point--
>>>>>>>>>got to get real, buy a new system, forget my old audio files
>>>>>>>>>and start over.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>but thank YOU particularly for the help
>>>>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Did you try disk first aid? If not, try to run Disk First Aid
from
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>OS
>>>>>>>>>>9 installer CD.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>oh, great--
>>>>>>>>>>>now a lot more considerations
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>:-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>i'm at my wits end(not a far walk)
>>>>>>>>>>>and can't figure out how to proceed
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>my G3 doesn't respond to the maxtor,
>>>>>>>>>>>my lacie cd writer only gets it right 20% of the time,
>>>>>>>>>>>my audio files are unavailable thanks to the maxor
>>>>>>>>>>>and my latest CD release is totally fubar
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>help!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>(thanks-- sincerely-- James McCloskey)
>>>>>>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>One more thing. Be aware that the firewire buss on blue and
white
>>>>>>>>>>>>G3's did not like more than one thing plugged into it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Dumb huh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't know when they fixed that, and it may apply to G4's as
>>>>>>>>>>>>well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>A FW hub solves it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Oh, also, B&W G3's will not run a current mac KB and Mouse!
>>>>>>>>>>>>They only run the original leetle KB and the silly round mouse
>>>>>>>>>>>>that came with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Use a USB hub and the current KB's and mice work fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>DC
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #86504 is a reply to message #86500] |
Tue, 12 June 2007 13:11 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Senior Member |
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Try putting the jumper on Master and see if it shows up. If that doesn't
work, you could also try moving the jumper around.
"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>
>James--
>yeah, the thing seems to whine a bit at times,
>but it was always quieter than the HD that came with the mac--
>i took off the jumper (j50), which was supposed to allow the Maxotr
>to turn into a slave, and then the Maxtor didn't show up
>at all!! not even in the system profiler.
>
>i regret that i don't understand this stuff more.
>but thanks to you--
>jp
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>I think a FireWire case would be a better bet. Those old G3s only had
the
>>slower USB v1.
>>
>>Back to the question, does the drive make any noise?
>>
>>James
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>Hey JP.. I have another idea. Buy a cheap USB case and stick the drive
>in
>>
>>>it. Boot another computer and plug it in. See if you get the same results.
>>
>>>This eliminates completely it being your mac IDE bus. Also, I don't know,
>>
>>>but is it possible to boot that machine from USB? Might be something else
>>to
>>>try and having a USB removable IDE-> USB is really not a bad thing.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:466aed12$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> the technical answer to this is a little beyond me--
>>>> i seem to remember an enginner, while describing
>>>> thie bake (no shake) technique, saying that it had to do
>>>> with removing any accumulated humidity and getting
>>>> those little particles to stand up straight.
>>>> a "real" engineer could give you the straight dope on
>>>> this. i am sure that you can only bake your tape once,
>>>> and you'd better have a way to store the data immediately-- curiously
>>
>>>> again,
>>>> just like freeze drying a hard disc.
>>>> jp
>>>>
>>>> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>>>>To bake a cake, sorry, a tape;-), wasn't it to get rid of the copy effect
>>>> we
>>>>>often heard before the tune started?
>>>>>
>>>>>Erling
>>>>>
>>>>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>news:46690c43@linux...
>>>>>> What is funny, is that you "freeze"drives to get the data from it,
>but
>>>> you
>>>>>> '"bake" audio tapes to get the data from them.....
>>>>>> Who woulda thought??
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Martin Harrington
>>>>>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>>>> 0414 913 247
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:466780ea@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> oh, and no--
>>>>>>> the maxor doesn't show up under "start up disks"--
>>>>>>> it's curious that no driver is listed in the system profiler for
>the
>>>>
>>>>>>> maxtor,
>>>>>>> though it's worked for a number of years and only recently started
>>to
>>>>
>>>>>>> flake
>>>>>>> out--
>>>>>>> i'm thinking of going with the freezer suggestions next, though have
>>>> no
>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>> what this means, how cold to get it,when to take it out,
>>>>>>> or what the condensation factor will have....
>>>>>>> or, for that matter, how to cook it later and whether a marinade
is
>>>>>>> appropriate
>>>>>>> or a simple
>>>>>>> searing in a hot pan with a little olive oil...
>>>>>>> the whole thing is getting pretty funny in a sorta frustrating way
>>>>>>> thanks again again
>>>>>>> jp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>James, one more time--
>>>>>>>>okay
>>>>>>>>system profiler finds:
>>>>>>>>"internal ATA 1 ID=O Hard Drive no volumes mounted"
>>>>>>>>this is the maxtor, but don't know where to go from here.
>>>>>>>>also, profiler says the unformatted size is 27.54 gig, though the
>
>>>>>>>>maxtor
>>>>>>>>is 40???
>>>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Was the Maxtor a boot able drive? If so, see if you can go under
>>
>>>>>>>>>"Start
>>>>>>>>up
>>>>>>>>>disk" and see if it's in there? Is the drive making any noise
like
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>spin
>>>>>>>>>up and spin down. The head arm might be stuck. You might want
to
>>try
>>>>>>> tapping
>>>>>>>>>on the side of the drive lightly. Beware you could damage the drive
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>doing
>>>>>>>>>this how ever, what do you have to lose. I'd have a drive ready
>>to
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>transfer
>>>>>>>>>files to.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The drive might be shot. Here are a few suggestions:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Call Apple, they have ways of retrieving data. I had a HD head
crash
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>the drive died. They told me they could transfer my data to the
new
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>drive
>>>>>>>>>they were replacing on my ibook.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Disk Savers, this would cost some money though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Last you could send the drive to me and I will see if I can get
your
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>data
>>>>>>>>>back, when I have spare time to work on it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>What ever you decide to do, good luck!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I'll catch you tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hey again James--
>>>>>>>>>>yeah, i did all that and
>>>>>>>>>>ran Disk Warrior, all the stuff--
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>i figure i'm totally fubarred at this point--
>>>>>>>>>>got to get real, buy a new system, forget my old audio files
>>>>>>>>>>and start over.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>but thank YOU particularly for the help
>>>>>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Did you try disk first aid? If not, try to run Disk First Aid
>from
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>OS
>>>>>>>>>>>9 installer CD.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>oh, great--
>>>>>>>>>>>>now a lot more considerations
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>:-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>i'm at my wits end(not a far walk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>and can't figure out how to proceed
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>my G3 doesn't respond to the maxtor,
>>>>>>>>>>>>my lacie cd writer only gets it right 20% of the time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>my audio files are unavailable thanks to the maxor
>>>>>>>>>>>>and my latest CD release is totally fubar
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>help!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>(thanks-- sincerely-- James McCloskey)
>>>>>>>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>One more thing. Be aware that the firewire buss on blue and
>white
>>>>>>>>>>>>>G3's did not like more than one thing plugged into it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dumb huh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't know when they fixed that, and it may apply to G4's
as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>A FW hub solves it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Oh, also, B&W G3's will not run a current mac KB and Mouse!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>They only run the original leetle KB and the silly round mouse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>that came with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Use a USB hub and the current KB's and mice work fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>DC
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: sticking with paris ( More Mac Paris info) [message #86508 is a reply to message #86504] |
Tue, 12 June 2007 13:43 |
jp
Messages: 65
Registered: June 2005
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Member |
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cool, james-- i'll try those
thanks
jp
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Try putting the jumper on Master and see if it shows up. If that doesn't
>work, you could also try moving the jumper around.
>
>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>
>>James--
>>yeah, the thing seems to whine a bit at times,
>>but it was always quieter than the HD that came with the mac--
>>i took off the jumper (j50), which was supposed to allow the Maxotr
>>to turn into a slave, and then the Maxtor didn't show up
>>at all!! not even in the system profiler.
>>
>>i regret that i don't understand this stuff more.
>>but thanks to you--
>>jp
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I think a FireWire case would be a better bet. Those old G3s only had
>the
>>>slower USB v1.
>>>
>>>Back to the question, does the drive make any noise?
>>>
>>>James
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>Hey JP.. I have another idea. Buy a cheap USB case and stick the drive
>>in
>>>
>>>>it. Boot another computer and plug it in. See if you get the same results.
>>>
>>>>This eliminates completely it being your mac IDE bus. Also, I don't know,
>>>
>>>>but is it possible to boot that machine from USB? Might be something
else
>>>to
>>>>try and having a USB removable IDE-> USB is really not a bad thing.
>>>>
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:466aed12$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> the technical answer to this is a little beyond me--
>>>>> i seem to remember an enginner, while describing
>>>>> thie bake (no shake) technique, saying that it had to do
>>>>> with removing any accumulated humidity and getting
>>>>> those little particles to stand up straight.
>>>>> a "real" engineer could give you the straight dope on
>>>>> this. i am sure that you can only bake your tape once,
>>>>> and you'd better have a way to store the data immediately-- curiously
>>>
>>>>> again,
>>>>> just like freeze drying a hard disc.
>>>>> jp
>>>>>
>>>>> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>>>>>To bake a cake, sorry, a tape;-), wasn't it to get rid of the copy
effect
>>>>> we
>>>>>>often heard before the tune started?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Erling
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>news:46690c43@linux...
>>>>>>> What is funny, is that you "freeze"drives to get the data from it,
>>but
>>>>> you
>>>>>>> '"bake" audio tapes to get the data from them.....
>>>>>>> Who woulda thought??
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Martin Harrington
>>>>>>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>>>>> 0414 913 247
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:466780ea@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> oh, and no--
>>>>>>>> the maxor doesn't show up under "start up disks"--
>>>>>>>> it's curious that no driver is listed in the system profiler for
>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> maxtor,
>>>>>>>> though it's worked for a number of years and only recently started
>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> flake
>>>>>>>> out--
>>>>>>>> i'm thinking of going with the freezer suggestions next, though
have
>>>>> no
>>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>> what this means, how cold to get it,when to take it out,
>>>>>>>> or what the condensation factor will have....
>>>>>>>> or, for that matter, how to cook it later and whether a marinade
>is
>>>>>>>> appropriate
>>>>>>>> or a simple
>>>>>>>> searing in a hot pan with a little olive oil...
>>>>>>>> the whole thing is getting pretty funny in a sorta frustrating way
>>>>>>>> thanks again again
>>>>>>>> jp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>James, one more time--
>>>>>>>>>okay
>>>>>>>>>system profiler finds:
>>>>>>>>>"internal ATA 1 ID=O Hard Drive no volumes mounted"
>>>>>>>>>this is the maxtor, but don't know where to go from here.
>>>>>>>>>also, profiler says the unformatted size is 27.54 gig, though the
>>
>>>>>>>>>maxtor
>>>>>>>>>is 40???
>>>>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Was the Maxtor a boot able drive? If so, see if you can go under
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Start
>>>>>>>>>up
>>>>>>>>>>disk" and see if it's in there? Is the drive making any noise
>like
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>spin
>>>>>>>>>>up and spin down. The head arm might be stuck. You might want
>to
>>>try
>>>>>>>> tapping
>>>>>>>>>>on the side of the drive lightly. Beware you could damage the
drive
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>doing
>>>>>>>>>>this how ever, what do you have to lose. I'd have a drive ready
>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>transfer
>>>>>>>>>>files to.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The drive might be shot. Here are a few suggestions:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Call Apple, they have ways of retrieving data. I had a HD head
>crash
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>the drive died. They told me they could transfer my data to the
>new
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>drive
>>>>>>>>>>they were replacing on my ibook.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Disk Savers, this would cost some money though.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Last you could send the drive to me and I will see if I can get
>your
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>data
>>>>>>>>>>back, when I have spare time to work on it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>What ever you decide to do, good luck!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I'll catch you tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Hey again James--
>>>>>>>>>>>yeah, i did all that and
>>>>>>>>>>>ran Disk Warrior, all the stuff--
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>i figure i'm totally fubarred at this point--
>>>>>>>>>>>got to get real, buy a new system, forget my old audio files
>>>>>>>>>>>and start over.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>but thank YOU particularly for the help
>>>>>>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Did you try disk first aid? If not, try to run Disk First Aid
>>from
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>OS
>>>>>>>>>>>>9 installer CD.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>oh, great--
>>>>>>>>>>>>>now a lot more considerations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>:-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>i'm at my wits end(not a far walk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>and can't figure out how to proceed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>my G3 doesn't respond to the maxtor,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>my lacie cd writer only gets it right 20% of the time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>my audio files are unavailable thanks to the maxor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>and my latest CD release is totally fubar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>help!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>(thanks-- sincerely-- James McCloskey)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>One more thing. Be aware that the firewire buss on blue and
>>white
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>G3's did not like more than one thing plugged into it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dumb huh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't know when they fixed that, and it may apply to G4's
>as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A FW hub solves it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Oh, also, B&W G3's will not run a current mac KB and Mouse!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>They only run the original leetle KB and the silly round mouse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that came with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Use a USB hub and the current KB's and mice work fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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