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OT Latency on softsynth recording Cubase 2.01 [message #97872]

Wed, 09 April 2008 08:56

Tom Bruhl

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Hi guys,
I have been very successful as of late using Cubase for midi.
Lately (maybe after a setting change?!?) the latency of
hearing the softsynths as I trigger them is acceptable but
the track appears almost a half measure later than the part
I just performed. I am constantly moving the notes where they
should be.

I am using a Scope audio card set at 3ms/44.1 . The comp
is an AMD dual core 4800+ .

What setting is fowled up that is causing this printing of
midi tracks dilemma?

Thanks for your words of wisdom!
Tom

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi guys,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been very successful as of late =
using Cubase=20
for midi.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lately (maybe after a setting =
change?!?) the=20
latency of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hearing the softsynths as I trigger =
them is=20
acceptable but</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the track appears almost a half measure =
later than=20
the part</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I just performed.  I am constantly =
moving the=20
notes where they</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>should be.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am using a Scope audio card set at =
3ms/44.1=20
..  The comp</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is an AMD dual core 4800+ =
..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What setting is fowled up that is =
causing this=20
printing of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>midi tracks dilemma?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for your words=20
of wisdom!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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Re: OT Latency on softsynth recording Cubase 2.01 [message #97873 is a reply to message #97872]

Wed, 09 April 2008 09:18

Chris Ludwig

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Hi Tom,
This should fix it.

http://knowledgebase.steinberg.de/95_1.html

Chris

Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Hi guys,
> I have been very successful as of late using Cubase for midi.
> Lately (maybe after a setting change?!?) the latency of
> hearing the softsynths as I trigger them is acceptable but
> the track appears almost a half measure later than the part
> I just performed. I am constantly moving the notes where they
> should be.
>
> I am using a Scope audio card set at 3ms/44.1 .. The comp
> is an AMD dual core 4800+ ..
>
> What setting is fowled up that is causing this printing of
> midi tracks dilemma?
>
> Thanks for your words of wisdom!
> Tom
>
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer..html <http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html>

--
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www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com

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Re: OT Latency on softsynth recording Cubase 2.01 [message #97876 is a reply to message #97873]

Wed, 09 April 2008 09:42

Tom Bruhl

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Thanks Chris ! There's all kinds of things I don't know
in that article. I'll find the answer.
Tom

"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message =
news:47fceeaf$1@linux...
Hi Tom,
This should fix it.

http://knowledgebase.steinberg.de/95_1.html

Chris

Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Hi guys,
> I have been very successful as of late using Cubase for midi.
> Lately (maybe after a setting change?!?) the latency of
> hearing the softsynths as I trigger them is acceptable but
> the track appears almost a half measure later than the part
> I just performed. I am constantly moving the notes where they
> should be.
> =20
> I am using a Scope audio card set at 3ms/44.1 .. The comp
> is an AMD dual core 4800+ ..
> =20
> What setting is fowled up that is causing this printing of
> midi tracks dilemma?
> =20
> Thanks for your words of wisdom!
> Tom
> =20
>=20
>=20
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer..html =
<http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html> =20

--=20
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:47fceeaf$1@linux">news:47fceeaf$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Hi=20
Tom,<BR>  This should fix it.<BR><BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://knowledgebase.steinberg.de/95_1.html">http://knowledgebase=
..steinberg.de/95_1.html</A><BR><BR><BR>Chris<BR><BR> <BR>Tom=20
Bruhl wrote:<BR>> Hi guys,<BR>> I have been very successful as =
of late=20
using Cubase for midi.<BR>> Lately (maybe after a setting =
change?!?) the=20
latency of<BR>> hearing the softsynths as I trigger them is =
acceptable=20
but<BR>> the track appears almost a half measure later than the=20
part<BR>> I just performed.  I am constantly moving the notes =
where=20
they<BR>> should be.<BR>>  <BR>> I am using a Scope =
audio card=20
set at 3ms/44.1 ..  The comp<BR>> is an AMD dual core 4800+=20
..<BR>>  <BR>> What setting is fowled up that is causing =
this=20
printing of<BR>> midi tracks dilemma?<BR>>  <BR>> Thanks =
for=20
your words of wisdom!<BR>> Tom<BR>>  <BR>> <BR>> =
<BR>> I=20
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Re: OT Latency on softsynth recording Cubase 2.01 [message #97881 is a reply to message #97872]

Wed, 09 April 2008 13:28

Bill L

Messages: 766
Registered: August 2006

Senior Member

Sounds like the timestamp. Don't know version 2 but you should find it
in the midi setup section.

Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Hi guys,
> I have been very successful as of late using Cubase for midi.
> Lately (maybe after a setting change?!?) the latency of
> hearing the softsynths as I trigger them is acceptable but
> the track appears almost a half measure later than the part
> I just performed. I am constantly moving the notes where they
> should be.
>
> I am using a Scope audio card set at 3ms/44.1 . The comp
> is an AMD dual core 4800+ .
>
> What setting is fowled up that is causing this printing of
> midi tracks dilemma?
>
> Thanks for your words of wisdom!
> Tom
>
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html

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Re: OT Latency on softsynth recording Cubase 2.01 [message #97883 is a reply to message #97881]

Wed, 09 April 2008 20:02

Tom Bruhl

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Well I looked all over for the timestamp setting in 2.01 and
couldn't find it. I did read the instructions regarding Chris'
post and I believe I already went through that stuff and installed
the ignoreportfilter last year when having a similar problem.
All I know is a changed a few Tranzport device settings and now
it doesn't play a crash cymbal when hitting stop nor does the=20
midi data print later like before. =20

I guess the problem is solved. Now here's another.

I am using a new midi controller that seems to be outputting data =
constantly.
The midi in light is going at a steady rate as is Cubase's data meter. =
Cubase is not
sending time code or clock but is receiving it from the midi patchbay.
This looks like a bottleneck waiting to happen. It has crashed a few =
times on it's own
too although not since the fix stated above.=20

I am confident it is not midi time code or midi clock coming from the =
controller. =20
It is some kind of system message I guess. The keyboard is only hooked =
up from it's
output so there's no looping going on either. It only sends very basic =
stuff but
also wants to be hooked up to editing software via USB. I thought I =
disabled sysex but
maybe not? I don't want to go there if at all possible. It only needs =
to send note on/off=20
and aftertouch for the most part. No splits or anything elaborate.

Any ideas on this one?

Thanks alot!
Tom

"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message =
news:47fd29b1$1@linux...
Sounds like the timestamp. Don't know version 2 but you should find it =

in the midi setup section.

Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Hi guys,
> I have been very successful as of late using Cubase for midi.
> Lately (maybe after a setting change?!?) the latency of
> hearing the softsynths as I trigger them is acceptable but
> the track appears almost a half measure later than the part
> I just performed. I am constantly moving the notes where they
> should be.
> =20
> I am using a Scope audio card set at 3ms/44.1 . The comp
> is an AMD dual core 4800+ .
> =20
> What setting is fowled up that is causing this printing of
> midi tracks dilemma?
> =20
> Thanks for your words of wisdom!
> Tom
> =20
>=20
>=20
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well I looked all over for the =
timestamp setting in=20
2.01 and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>couldn't find it.  I did read the =
instructions=20
regarding Chris'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>post and I believe I already went =
through that=20
stuff and installed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the ignoreportfilter last year when =
having a=20
similar problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All I know is a changed a few Tranzport =
device=20
settings and now</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>it doesn't play a crash cymbal when =
hitting stop=20
nor does the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>midi data print later like =
before. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I guess the problem is solved.  =
Now here's=20
another.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am using a new midi controller =
that seems to=20
be outputting data constantly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The midi in light is going at a steady =
rate as is=20
Cubase's data meter.  Cubase is not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sending time code or clock but is =
receiving it from=20
the midi patchbay.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This looks like </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2>a=20
bottleneck waiting to happen.  It has crashed a few times on it's=20
own</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>too although not since the fix stated =
above.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am confident it is not midi time code =
or midi=20
clock coming from the controller.  </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It is some kind of </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>system message I guess.  The keyboard is only hooked=20
up from it's</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>output so there's no looping going on =
either. =20
It only sends very basic stuff but</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>also wants to be hooked up to editing =
software via=20
USB.  I thought I disabled sysex but</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>maybe not?  I don't want to =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>go there if at all possible.  It only needs =
to send note=20
on/off </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and aftertouch for </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>the most </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>part.  No =
splits or anything=20
elaborate.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any ideas on this one?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks alot!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:bill@billlorentzen.com">bill@billlorentzen.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:47fd29b1$1@linux">news:47fd29b1$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Sounds =
like the=20
timestamp. Don't know version 2 but you should find it <BR>in the midi =
setup=20
section.<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> Hi guys,<BR>> I have been =
very=20
successful as of late using Cubase for midi.<BR>> Lately (maybe =
after a=20
setting change?!?) the latency of<BR>> hearing the softsynths as I =
trigger=20
them is acceptable but<BR>> the track appears almost a half measure =
later=20
than the part<BR>> I just performed.  I am constantly moving =
the notes=20
where they<BR>> should be.<BR>>  <BR>> I am using a =
Scope audio=20
card set at 3ms/44.1 .  The comp<BR>> is an AMD dual core =
4800+=20
.<BR>>  <BR>> What setting is fowled up that is causing =
this=20
printing of<BR>> midi tracks dilemma?<BR>>  <BR>> Thanks =
for=20
your words of wisdom!<BR>> Tom<BR>>  <BR>> <BR>> =
<BR>> I=20
choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?<BR>> <A=20
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Re: OT Latency on softsynth recording Cubase 2.01 [message #97887 is a reply to message #97883]

Thu, 10 April 2008 05:02

Bill L

Messages: 766
Registered: August 2006

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Take your foot off the sustain pedal, you Bigfoot!

But seriously, record a little of it and check it out in the list editor
(Control G?). Then read the controller manual and shut it off. If that
doesn't work, you can buy my MX8 and filter whatever it is.

Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Well I looked all over for the timestamp setting in 2.01 and
> couldn't find it. I did read the instructions regarding Chris'
> post and I believe I already went through that stuff and installed
> the ignoreportfilter last year when having a similar problem.
> All I know is a changed a few Tranzport device settings and now
> it doesn't play a crash cymbal when hitting stop nor does the
> midi data print later like before.
>
> I guess the problem is solved. Now here's another.
>
> I am using a new midi controller that seems to be outputting data
> constantly.
> The midi in light is going at a steady rate as is Cubase's data meter.
> Cubase is not
> sending time code or clock but is receiving it from the midi patchbay.
> This looks like a bottleneck waiting to happen. It has crashed a few
> times on it's own
> too although not since the fix stated above.
>
> I am confident it is not midi time code or midi clock coming from the
> controller.
> It is some kind of system message I guess. The keyboard is only hooked
> up from it's
> output so there's no looping going on either. It only sends very basic
> stuff but
> also wants to be hooked up to editing software via USB. I thought I
> disabled sysex but
> maybe not? I don't want to go there if at all possible. It only needs
> to send note on/off
> and aftertouch for the most part. No splits or anything elaborate.
>
> Any ideas on this one?
>
> Thanks alot!
> Tom
>
>
>
> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com <mailto:bill@billlorentzen.com>>
> wrote in message news:47fd29b1$1@linux...
> Sounds like the timestamp. Don't know version 2 but you should find it
> in the midi setup section.
>
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> > I have been very successful as of late using Cubase for midi.
> > Lately (maybe after a setting change?!?) the latency of
> > hearing the softsynths as I trigger them is acceptable but
> > the track appears almost a half measure later than the part
> > I just performed. I am constantly moving the notes where they
> > should be.
> >
> > I am using a Scope audio card set at 3ms/44.1 . The comp
> > is an AMD dual core 4800+ .
> >
> > What setting is fowled up that is causing this printing of
> > midi tracks dilemma?
> >
> > Thanks for your words of wisdom!
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html

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