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| Re: That evil Bill Gates at it again [message #82668 is a reply to message #82663] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 11:19   |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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And your posts aren't opinion and your Microsoft/Bill Gates posts aren't
bashing???
James - you are constantly pushing your opinion (and that's all it is) based
on what you *think* you know about these companies
and frankly, most of here just don't care, other than the fact that it seems
to be taking up a significant part of this forum now.
There is enough fact in the article for you to have seen that Steve Jobs
isn't a charitable saint (didn't make the $1M donation list
from two independant charity/giving studies) - he's just a business man.
Please, please, please, if you can't discuss your opinion with a balanced
attitude, give it a rest.
Time to climb down off the Apple high horse and realize that Bill Gates
isn't Satan, and Steve Jobs isn't Mother Theresa.
These are companies making products to make a profit and I believe most if
not all of us here understand that, other than you apparently.
Why do you have such an all-consuming chip on your shoulder against MS? I
don't have a problem with Macs or PCs, MS or Apple, but
I'm also not in love with either one - neither is perfect. Are you a Mac
reseller by chance?
Start looking at the world around you without the Apple-colored glasses on.
There's more to life, and computer technology
than evangelizing the Apple mantra. We aren't buying it and you are only
hurting your argument, not
that it should be an argument to begin with. Buy and use what you like, and
post all you want about Apple products, but leave
the crusade offline, please.
Thanks,
Dedric
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:461539ad$1@linux...
>
> This isn't balanced, this is opinion! This is a bashing!!!!!!!!!!
>
> You need to get educated on the real history of MS.
>
> START READING!
>
> http://www.albion.com/microsoft/findings-21.html
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>> http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2006/0 1/70072
>>
>>Just a little balance of perspective. No conspiracies - just different
>
>>people with
>>different personalities and personal goals.
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:46153119$1@linux...
>>>
>>> They are just trying to cover up years and years of unethical business
>
>>> practices.
>>> They are just trying to get people to think their good guys and to
>>> forget
>>> what they have done. The truth is still the truth.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Steve Jobs" <SJ@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Causes/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: That evil Bill Gates at it again [message #82675 is a reply to message #82668] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 12:06 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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I do know about these companies. You should read up on the real history of
the two companies and the CEOs. I have a family member that was an executive
at a software company that MS decided to destroy. MS hired away their top
software engineers by bribing them with 1.5 to 3 million dollar starting
bonuses. Then MS gave away their competing product. The other software
had no real chance of surviving. MS now dominates that market segment.
The unethical, monopolistic business practices of MS are vary clear. It's
not Opinion. Go read the findings and know the truth!
MS has been able to lobby, bribe and by off politicians. That is how they
got out of all the anti trust judgments. The law were set up, but they don't
apply to companies like MS. We have the best government money can BUY!
When I see gates run down to some countries to bribe there officials, then
pat him self on the back because he gave a million dollars to a library,
I know what's up. Only stupid people, can't see through this. The guy has
no integrity. He is a crook and a thief. Just look at Vista, it's a blatant
rip off of Mac OSX.
When I hear ignorant bullshit about Apple or Jobs, I step up to the plate.
There are so many untruths that keep getting repeated about Apple. People
need to get educated about the issue. If any thing is mentioned about Apple
here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
If you don't like me posting, then quite the Mac bashing!!!!!!!!!
James
"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>And your posts aren't opinion and your Microsoft/Bill Gates posts aren't
>bashing???
>
>James - you are constantly pushing your opinion (and that's all it is) based
>on what you *think* you know about these companies
>and frankly, most of here just don't care, other than the fact that it seems
>to be taking up a significant part of this forum now.
>There is enough fact in the article for you to have seen that Steve Jobs
>isn't a charitable saint (didn't make the $1M donation list
>from two independant charity/giving studies) - he's just a business man.
>
>Please, please, please, if you can't discuss your opinion with a balanced
>attitude, give it a rest.
>Time to climb down off the Apple high horse and realize that Bill Gates
>isn't Satan, and Steve Jobs isn't Mother Theresa.
>These are companies making products to make a profit and I believe most
if
>not all of us here understand that, other than you apparently.
>
>Why do you have such an all-consuming chip on your shoulder against MS?
I
>don't have a problem with Macs or PCs, MS or Apple, but
>I'm also not in love with either one - neither is perfect. Are you a Mac
>reseller by chance?
>
>Start looking at the world around you without the Apple-colored glasses
on.
>There's more to life, and computer technology
>than evangelizing the Apple mantra. We aren't buying it and you are only
>hurting your argument, not
>that it should be an argument to begin with. Buy and use what you like,
and
>post all you want about Apple products, but leave
>the crusade offline, please.
>
>Thanks,
>Dedric
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:461539ad$1@linux...
>>
>> This isn't balanced, this is opinion! This is a bashing!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> You need to get educated on the real history of MS.
>>
>> START READING!
>>
>> http://www.albion.com/microsoft/findings-21.html
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2006/0 1/70072
>>>
>>>Just a little balance of perspective. No conspiracies - just different
>>
>>>people with
>>>different personalities and personal goals.
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:46153119$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> They are just trying to cover up years and years of unethical business
>>
>>>> practices.
>>>> They are just trying to get people to think their good guys and to
>>>> forget
>>>> what they have done. The truth is still the truth.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Steve Jobs" <SJ@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Causes/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: That evil Bill Gates at it again [message #82676 is a reply to message #82675] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 12:15 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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> here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
So does the incessant and useless MS/Gates bashing, and that's all it is,
yet you still don't see it or get it.
Just calling a spade a spade James. This isn't about MS or Apple, it's about
your posts, yet you still don't seem to get that, so I give up. There are
other forums
that aren't hijacked daily by Mac zealots (or any zealot for that matter).
This used to be a great forum....
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:461548a3$1@linux...
> There are so many untruths that keep getting repeated about Apple. People
> need to get educated about the issue. If any thing is mentioned about
> Apple
> here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>
> If you don't like me posting, then quite the Mac bashing!!!!!!!!!
>
> James
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>And your posts aren't opinion and your Microsoft/Bill Gates posts aren't
>
>>bashing???
>>
>>James - you are constantly pushing your opinion (and that's all it is)
>>based
>
>>on what you *think* you know about these companies
>>and frankly, most of here just don't care, other than the fact that it
>>seems
>
>>to be taking up a significant part of this forum now.
>>There is enough fact in the article for you to have seen that Steve Jobs
>
>>isn't a charitable saint (didn't make the $1M donation list
>>from two independant charity/giving studies) - he's just a business man.
>>
>>Please, please, please, if you can't discuss your opinion with a balanced
>
>>attitude, give it a rest.
>>Time to climb down off the Apple high horse and realize that Bill Gates
>
>>isn't Satan, and Steve Jobs isn't Mother Theresa.
>>These are companies making products to make a profit and I believe most
> if
>>not all of us here understand that, other than you apparently.
>>
>>Why do you have such an all-consuming chip on your shoulder against MS?
> I
>>don't have a problem with Macs or PCs, MS or Apple, but
>>I'm also not in love with either one - neither is perfect. Are you a Mac
>
>>reseller by chance?
>>
>>Start looking at the world around you without the Apple-colored glasses
> on.
>>There's more to life, and computer technology
>>than evangelizing the Apple mantra. We aren't buying it and you are only
>
>>hurting your argument, not
>>that it should be an argument to begin with. Buy and use what you like,
> and
>>post all you want about Apple products, but leave
>>the crusade offline, please.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Dedric
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:461539ad$1@linux...
>>>
>>> This isn't balanced, this is opinion! This is a bashing!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> You need to get educated on the real history of MS.
>>>
>>> START READING!
>>>
>>> http://www.albion.com/microsoft/findings-21.html
>>>
>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>> http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2006/0 1/70072
>>>>
>>>>Just a little balance of perspective. No conspiracies - just different
>>>
>>>>people with
>>>>different personalities and personal goals.
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:46153119$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> They are just trying to cover up years and years of unethical business
>>>
>>>>> practices.
>>>>> They are just trying to get people to think their good guys and to
>>>>> forget
>>>>> what they have done. The truth is still the truth.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Steve Jobs" <SJ@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Causes/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: That evil Bill Gates at it again [message #82681 is a reply to message #82676] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 12:33 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Like I said, lay off the Mac bashing and I won't have a thing to say about
it.
James
"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>> here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>
>So does the incessant and useless MS/Gates bashing, and that's all it is,
>yet you still don't see it or get it.
>
>Just calling a spade a spade James. This isn't about MS or Apple, it's about
>your posts, yet you still don't seem to get that, so I give up. There are
>other forums
>that aren't hijacked daily by Mac zealots (or any zealot for that matter).
>
>This used to be a great forum....
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:461548a3$1@linux...
>> There are so many untruths that keep getting repeated about Apple. People
>> need to get educated about the issue. If any thing is mentioned about
>> Apple
>> here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>
>> If you don't like me posting, then quite the Mac bashing!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> James
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>And your posts aren't opinion and your Microsoft/Bill Gates posts aren't
>>
>>>bashing???
>>>
>>>James - you are constantly pushing your opinion (and that's all it is)
>>>based
>>
>>>on what you *think* you know about these companies
>>>and frankly, most of here just don't care, other than the fact that it
>>>seems
>>
>>>to be taking up a significant part of this forum now.
>>>There is enough fact in the article for you to have seen that Steve Jobs
>>
>>>isn't a charitable saint (didn't make the $1M donation list
>>>from two independant charity/giving studies) - he's just a business man.
>>>
>>>Please, please, please, if you can't discuss your opinion with a balanced
>>
>>>attitude, give it a rest.
>>>Time to climb down off the Apple high horse and realize that Bill Gates
>>
>>>isn't Satan, and Steve Jobs isn't Mother Theresa.
>>>These are companies making products to make a profit and I believe most
>> if
>>>not all of us here understand that, other than you apparently.
>>>
>>>Why do you have such an all-consuming chip on your shoulder against MS?
>> I
>>>don't have a problem with Macs or PCs, MS or Apple, but
>>>I'm also not in love with either one - neither is perfect. Are you a
Mac
>>
>>>reseller by chance?
>>>
>>>Start looking at the world around you without the Apple-colored glasses
>> on.
>>>There's more to life, and computer technology
>>>than evangelizing the Apple mantra. We aren't buying it and you are only
>>
>>>hurting your argument, not
>>>that it should be an argument to begin with. Buy and use what you like,
>> and
>>>post all you want about Apple products, but leave
>>>the crusade offline, please.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Dedric
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:461539ad$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> This isn't balanced, this is opinion! This is a bashing!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> You need to get educated on the real history of MS.
>>>>
>>>> START READING!
>>>>
>>>> http://www.albion.com/microsoft/findings-21.html
>>>>
>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>> http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2006/0 1/70072
>>>>>
>>>>>Just a little balance of perspective. No conspiracies - just different
>>>>
>>>>>people with
>>>>>different personalities and personal goals.
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:46153119$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are just trying to cover up years and years of unethical business
>>>>
>>>>>> practices.
>>>>>> They are just trying to get people to think their good guys and to
>>>>>> forget
>>>>>> what they have done. The truth is still the truth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Steve Jobs" <SJ@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Causes/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: That evil Bill Gates at it again [message #82684 is a reply to message #82681] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 12:42 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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Umm... where did I "bash" Macs? That article was about the differences in
charity giving between two
CEOs. You are the one that posted the subject "Microsoft Sues software
sellers", and many
other antagonistic anti-MS/PC posts, and insertions into other threads to
derail them into
a Mac vs. PC debate.
We normally discuss technical issues, pros and cons here and don't seem to
have a problem
coming to agreement on what is fact and what is opinion, and agreeing to
disagree... at least until now.
If you see that as bashing, then perhaps it's your defensiveness that needs
addressing.
It isn't your job to tell the rest of us what to say or think. This is your
move to make now James, not ours.
(Not that I can speak for the rest of the forum, but judging by some
responses you've gotten,
I think it's safe to say I'm not alone in my view on this).
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46154f13$1@linux...
>
> Like I said, lay off the Mac bashing and I won't have a thing to say about
> it.
>
> James
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>> here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>
>>So does the incessant and useless MS/Gates bashing, and that's all it is,
>>yet you still don't see it or get it.
>>
>>Just calling a spade a spade James. This isn't about MS or Apple, it's
>>about
>>your posts, yet you still don't seem to get that, so I give up. There are
>
>>other forums
>>that aren't hijacked daily by Mac zealots (or any zealot for that matter).
>>
>>This used to be a great forum....
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:461548a3$1@linux...
>>> There are so many untruths that keep getting repeated about Apple.
>>> People
>>> need to get educated about the issue. If any thing is mentioned about
>
>>> Apple
>>> here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>>
>>> If you don't like me posting, then quite the Mac bashing!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>And your posts aren't opinion and your Microsoft/Bill Gates posts aren't
>>>
>>>>bashing???
>>>>
>>>>James - you are constantly pushing your opinion (and that's all it is)
>
>>>>based
>>>
>>>>on what you *think* you know about these companies
>>>>and frankly, most of here just don't care, other than the fact that it
>
>>>>seems
>>>
>>>>to be taking up a significant part of this forum now.
>>>>There is enough fact in the article for you to have seen that Steve Jobs
>>>
>>>>isn't a charitable saint (didn't make the $1M donation list
>>>>from two independant charity/giving studies) - he's just a business man.
>>>>
>>>>Please, please, please, if you can't discuss your opinion with a
>>>>balanced
>>>
>>>>attitude, give it a rest.
>>>>Time to climb down off the Apple high horse and realize that Bill Gates
>>>
>>>>isn't Satan, and Steve Jobs isn't Mother Theresa.
>>>>These are companies making products to make a profit and I believe most
>>> if
>>>>not all of us here understand that, other than you apparently.
>>>>
>>>>Why do you have such an all-consuming chip on your shoulder against MS?
>>> I
>>>>don't have a problem with Macs or PCs, MS or Apple, but
>>>>I'm also not in love with either one - neither is perfect. Are you a
> Mac
>>>
>>>>reseller by chance?
>>>>
>>>>Start looking at the world around you without the Apple-colored glasses
>>> on.
>>>>There's more to life, and computer technology
>>>>than evangelizing the Apple mantra. We aren't buying it and you are
>>>>only
>>>
>>>>hurting your argument, not
>>>>that it should be an argument to begin with. Buy and use what you like,
>>> and
>>>>post all you want about Apple products, but leave
>>>>the crusade offline, please.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Dedric
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:461539ad$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> This isn't balanced, this is opinion! This is a bashing!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to get educated on the real history of MS.
>>>>>
>>>>> START READING!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.albion.com/microsoft/findings-21.html
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2006/0 1/70072
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Just a little balance of perspective. No conspiracies - just
>>>>>>different
>>>>>
>>>>>>people with
>>>>>>different personalities and personal goals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:46153119$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are just trying to cover up years and years of unethical
>>>>>>> business
>>>>>
>>>>>>> practices.
>>>>>>> They are just trying to get people to think their good guys and to
>>>>>>> forget
>>>>>>> what they have done. The truth is still the truth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Steve Jobs" <SJ@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Causes/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: That evil Bill Gates at it again [message #82685 is a reply to message #82668] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 12:50 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
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While it's rare to see me on the same side as James on something like this,
the Gates Foundation makes me a little queasy. Keep in mind I work for what
is in essence a foundation--we manage a big pile of money for a non-profit
organization. It's just that we only give money to one 'charity' which happens
to be Yale University. Investing that much money is not an easy task, and
in many cases can do all sorts of odd things.
http://www.alternet.org/story/47713/
Second, the Gates Foundation has gone out of its way to defend intellectual
property rights, including generic drugs. Having just had some direct experience
with the effect that has on Thailand that issue is sort of close to me.
http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2006/06/27/gates_buffett/inde x.html
It's a little hard for me to believe that an organization funded by two billionaires
and being run almost exclusively by Gates family members could really claim
not to have some conflicts of interest when it came to an issue like generic
drug manufacture to enhance public health in the developing world. A group
like mine is lucky because we make money so that Yale can spend it and the
money we manage was donated to Yale so that Yale could spend it. No real
conflict there. But I think the Gates Foundation swims in much murkier waters,
even if I don't have James' 'Bill Gates banged my girlfriend in high school'
hatred of the fellow.
TCB
"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>And your posts aren't opinion and your Microsoft/Bill Gates posts aren't
>bashing???
>
>James - you are constantly pushing your opinion (and that's all it is) based
>on what you *think* you know about these companies
>and frankly, most of here just don't care, other than the fact that it seems
>to be taking up a significant part of this forum now.
>There is enough fact in the article for you to have seen that Steve Jobs
>isn't a charitable saint (didn't make the $1M donation list
>from two independant charity/giving studies) - he's just a business man.
>
>Please, please, please, if you can't discuss your opinion with a balanced
>attitude, give it a rest.
>Time to climb down off the Apple high horse and realize that Bill Gates
>isn't Satan, and Steve Jobs isn't Mother Theresa.
>These are companies making products to make a profit and I believe most
if
>not all of us here understand that, other than you apparently.
>
>Why do you have such an all-consuming chip on your shoulder against MS?
I
>don't have a problem with Macs or PCs, MS or Apple, but
>I'm also not in love with either one - neither is perfect. Are you a Mac
>reseller by chance?
>
>Start looking at the world around you without the Apple-colored glasses
on.
>There's more to life, and computer technology
>than evangelizing the Apple mantra. We aren't buying it and you are only
>hurting your argument, not
>that it should be an argument to begin with. Buy and use what you like,
and
>post all you want about Apple products, but leave
>the crusade offline, please.
>
>Thanks,
>Dedric
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:461539ad$1@linux...
>>
>> This isn't balanced, this is opinion! This is a bashing!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> You need to get educated on the real history of MS.
>>
>> START READING!
>>
>> http://www.albion.com/microsoft/findings-21.html
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2006/0 1/70072
>>>
>>>Just a little balance of perspective. No conspiracies - just different
>>
>>>people with
>>>different personalities and personal goals.
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:46153119$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> They are just trying to cover up years and years of unethical business
>>
>>>> practices.
>>>> They are just trying to get people to think their good guys and to
>>>> forget
>>>> what they have done. The truth is still the truth.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Steve Jobs" <SJ@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Causes/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: That evil Bill Gates at it again [message #82686 is a reply to message #82683] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 12:58 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Hey, fire way!
By the way Dave, how much time have you spent using Mac OS 9?
It funny how all you PC dealers, that make your negative comments about Macs
and Apple are all going to start carrying Apple products now?
Who's next???
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>Maybe if you tone down the Apple flag waving, people won't take shots
>at you... ;-)
>
>David.
>
>James McCloskey wrote:
>
>> Like I said, lay off the Mac bashing and I won't have a thing to say about
>> it.
>>
>> James
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>>
>>>So does the incessant and useless MS/Gates bashing, and that's all it
is,
>>>yet you still don't see it or get it.
>>>
>>>Just calling a spade a spade James. This isn't about MS or Apple, it's
about
>>>your posts, yet you still don't seem to get that, so I give up. There
are
>>
>>
>>>other forums
>>>that aren't hijacked daily by Mac zealots (or any zealot for that matter).
>>>
>>>This used to be a great forum....
>>>
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| Re: That evil Bill Gates at it again [message #82687 is a reply to message #82684] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 13:02 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Senior Member |
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Hey Dedric, no one asked you to butt in on this thread either. Dedric go
fuck yourself!
"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>Umm... where did I "bash" Macs? That article was about the differences
in
>charity giving between two
>CEOs. You are the one that posted the subject "Microsoft Sues software
>sellers", and many
>other antagonistic anti-MS/PC posts, and insertions into other threads to
>derail them into
>a Mac vs. PC debate.
>
>We normally discuss technical issues, pros and cons here and don't seem
to
>have a problem
>coming to agreement on what is fact and what is opinion, and agreeing to
>disagree... at least until now.
>
>If you see that as bashing, then perhaps it's your defensiveness that needs
>addressing.
>It isn't your job to tell the rest of us what to say or think. This is
your
>move to make now James, not ours.
>
>(Not that I can speak for the rest of the forum, but judging by some
>responses you've gotten,
>I think it's safe to say I'm not alone in my view on this).
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:46154f13$1@linux...
>>
>> Like I said, lay off the Mac bashing and I won't have a thing to say about
>> it.
>>
>> James
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>> here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>>
>>>So does the incessant and useless MS/Gates bashing, and that's all it
is,
>>>yet you still don't see it or get it.
>>>
>>>Just calling a spade a spade James. This isn't about MS or Apple, it's
>>>about
>>>your posts, yet you still don't seem to get that, so I give up. There
are
>>
>>>other forums
>>>that aren't hijacked daily by Mac zealots (or any zealot for that matter).
>>>
>>>This used to be a great forum....
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:461548a3$1@linux...
>>>> There are so many untruths that keep getting repeated about Apple.
>>>> People
>>>> need to get educated about the issue. If any thing is mentioned about
>>
>>>> Apple
>>>> here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>>>
>>>> If you don't like me posting, then quite the Mac bashing!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>And your posts aren't opinion and your Microsoft/Bill Gates posts aren't
>>>>
>>>>>bashing???
>>>>>
>>>>>James - you are constantly pushing your opinion (and that's all it is)
>>
>>>>>based
>>>>
>>>>>on what you *think* you know about these companies
>>>>>and frankly, most of here just don't care, other than the fact that
it
>>
>>>>>seems
>>>>
>>>>>to be taking up a significant part of this forum now.
>>>>>There is enough fact in the article for you to have seen that Steve
Jobs
>>>>
>>>>>isn't a charitable saint (didn't make the $1M donation list
>>>>>from two independant charity/giving studies) - he's just a business
man.
>>>>>
>>>>>Please, please, please, if you can't discuss your opinion with a
>>>>>balanced
>>>>
>>>>>attitude, give it a rest.
>>>>>Time to climb down off the Apple high horse and realize that Bill Gates
>>>>
>>>>>isn't Satan, and Steve Jobs isn't Mother Theresa.
>>>>>These are companies making products to make a profit and I believe most
>>>> if
>>>>>not all of us here understand that, other than you apparently.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why do you have such an all-consuming chip on your shoulder against
MS?
>>>> I
>>>>>don't have a problem with Macs or PCs, MS or Apple, but
>>>>>I'm also not in love with either one - neither is perfect. Are you
a
>> Mac
>>>>
>>>>>reseller by chance?
>>>>>
>>>>>Start looking at the world around you without the Apple-colored glasses
>>>> on.
>>>>>There's more to life, and computer technology
>>>>>than evangelizing the Apple mantra. We aren't buying it and you are
>>>>>only
>>>>
>>>>>hurting your argument, not
>>>>>that it should be an argument to begin with. Buy and use what you like,
>>>> and
>>>>>post all you want about Apple products, but leave
>>>>>the crusade offline, please.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:461539ad$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This isn't balanced, this is opinion! This is a bashing!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You need to get educated on the real history of MS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> START READING!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.albion.com/microsoft/findings-21.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2006/0 1/70072
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just a little balance of perspective. No conspiracies - just
>>>>>>>different
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>people with
>>>>>>>different personalities and personal goals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:46153119$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They are just trying to cover up years and years of unethical
>>>>>>>> business
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> practices.
>>>>>>>> They are just trying to get people to think their good guys and
to
>>>>>>>> forget
>>>>>>>> what they have done. The truth is still the truth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Steve Jobs" <SJ@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Causes/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: That evil Bill Gates at it again [message #82688 is a reply to message #82687] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 13:05 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Senior Member |
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Dedric, you obviously want to make this personal, so I'll say it again, go
fuck yourself!
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Dedric, no one asked you to butt in on this thread either. Dedric go
>fuck yourself!
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>Umm... where did I "bash" Macs? That article was about the differences
>in
>>charity giving between two
>>CEOs. You are the one that posted the subject "Microsoft Sues software
>
>>sellers", and many
>>other antagonistic anti-MS/PC posts, and insertions into other threads
to
>
>>derail them into
>>a Mac vs. PC debate.
>>
>>We normally discuss technical issues, pros and cons here and don't seem
>to
>>have a problem
>>coming to agreement on what is fact and what is opinion, and agreeing to
>
>>disagree... at least until now.
>>
>>If you see that as bashing, then perhaps it's your defensiveness that needs
>
>>addressing.
>>It isn't your job to tell the rest of us what to say or think. This is
>your
>>move to make now James, not ours.
>>
>>(Not that I can speak for the rest of the forum, but judging by some
>>responses you've gotten,
>>I think it's safe to say I'm not alone in my view on this).
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:46154f13$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Like I said, lay off the Mac bashing and I won't have a thing to say
about
>>> it.
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>> here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>>>
>>>>So does the incessant and useless MS/Gates bashing, and that's all it
>is,
>>>>yet you still don't see it or get it.
>>>>
>>>>Just calling a spade a spade James. This isn't about MS or Apple, it's
>
>>>>about
>>>>your posts, yet you still don't seem to get that, so I give up. There
>are
>>>
>>>>other forums
>>>>that aren't hijacked daily by Mac zealots (or any zealot for that matter).
>>>>
>>>>This used to be a great forum....
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:461548a3$1@linux...
>>>>> There are so many untruths that keep getting repeated about Apple.
>>>>> People
>>>>> need to get educated about the issue. If any thing is mentioned about
>>>
>>>>> Apple
>>>>> here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't like me posting, then quite the Mac bashing!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> James
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>And your posts aren't opinion and your Microsoft/Bill Gates posts aren't
>>>>>
>>>>>>bashing???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James - you are constantly pushing your opinion (and that's all it
is)
>>>
>>>>>>based
>>>>>
>>>>>>on what you *think* you know about these companies
>>>>>>and frankly, most of here just don't care, other than the fact that
>it
>>>
>>>>>>seems
>>>>>
>>>>>>to be taking up a significant part of this forum now.
>>>>>>There is enough fact in the article for you to have seen that Steve
>Jobs
>>>>>
>>>>>>isn't a charitable saint (didn't make the $1M donation list
>>>>>>from two independant charity/giving studies) - he's just a business
>man.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Please, please, please, if you can't discuss your opinion with a
>>>>>>balanced
>>>>>
>>>>>>attitude, give it a rest.
>>>>>>Time to climb down off the Apple high horse and realize that Bill Gates
>>>>>
>>>>>>isn't Satan, and Steve Jobs isn't Mother Theresa.
>>>>>>These are companies making products to make a profit and I believe
most
>>>>> if
>>>>>>not all of us here understand that, other than you apparently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why do you have such an all-consuming chip on your shoulder against
>MS?
>>>>> I
>>>>>>don't have a problem with Macs or PCs, MS or Apple, but
>>>>>>I'm also not in love with either one - neither is perfect. Are you
>a
>>> Mac
>>>>>
>>>>>>reseller by chance?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Start looking at the world around you without the Apple-colored glasses
>>>>> on.
>>>>>>There's more to life, and computer technology
>>>>>>than evangelizing the Apple mantra. We aren't buying it and you are
>
>>>>>>only
>>>>>
>>>>>>hurting your argument, not
>>>>>>that it should be an argument to begin with. Buy and use what you
like,
>>>>> and
>>>>>>post all you want about Apple products, but leave
>>>>>>the crusade offline, please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:461539ad$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This isn't balanced, this is opinion! This is a bashing!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You need to get educated on the real history of MS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> START READING!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.albion.com/microsoft/findings-21.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2006/0 1/70072
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Just a little balance of perspective. No conspiracies - just
>>>>>>>>different
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>people with
>>>>>>>>different personalities and personal goals.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:46153119$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They are just trying to cover up years and years of unethical
>>>>>>>>> business
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> practices.
>>>>>>>>> They are just trying to get people to think their good guys and
>to
>>>>>>>>> forget
>>>>>>>>> what they have done. The truth is still the truth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Steve Jobs" <SJ@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Causes/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: That evil Bill Gates at it again [message #82689 is a reply to message #82687] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 14:14 |
Larry Upton
Messages: 30
Registered: October 2006
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Member |
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James,
I like you, man, we've done business together, and ordinarily, you seem
like a good guy, but dude, I think you just got yourself banned...
Be the bigger man, walk away...
Larry
(Yeah, I butted in, too...)
James McCloskey wrote:
> Hey Dedric, no one asked you to butt in on this thread either. Dedric go
> fuck yourself!
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>
>>Umm... where did I "bash" Macs? That article was about the differences
>
> in
>
>>charity giving between two
>>CEOs. You are the one that posted the subject "Microsoft Sues software
>
>
>>sellers", and many
>>other antagonistic anti-MS/PC posts, and insertions into other threads to
>
>
>>derail them into
>>a Mac vs. PC debate.
>>
>>We normally discuss technical issues, pros and cons here and don't seem
>
> to
>
>>have a problem
>>coming to agreement on what is fact and what is opinion, and agreeing to
>
>
>>disagree... at least until now.
>>
>>If you see that as bashing, then perhaps it's your defensiveness that needs
>
>
>>addressing.
>>It isn't your job to tell the rest of us what to say or think. This is
>
> your
>
>>move to make now James, not ours.
>>
>>(Not that I can speak for the rest of the forum, but judging by some
>>responses you've gotten,
>>I think it's safe to say I'm not alone in my view on this).
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:46154f13$1@linux...
>>
>>>Like I said, lay off the Mac bashing and I won't have a thing to say about
>>>it.
>>>
>>>James
>>>
>>>"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>>>
>>>>So does the incessant and useless MS/Gates bashing, and that's all it
>
> is,
>
>>>>yet you still don't see it or get it.
>>>>
>>>>Just calling a spade a spade James. This isn't about MS or Apple, it's
>
>
>>>>about
>>>>your posts, yet you still don't seem to get that, so I give up. There
>
> are
>
>>>>other forums
>>>>that aren't hijacked daily by Mac zealots (or any zealot for that matter).
>>>>
>>>>This used to be a great forum....
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:461548a3$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>There are so many untruths that keep getting repeated about Apple.
>>>>>People
>>>>>need to get educated about the issue. If any thing is mentioned about
>>>
>>>>>Apple
>>>>>here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you don't like me posting, then quite the Mac bashing!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>James
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>And your posts aren't opinion and your Microsoft/Bill Gates posts aren't
>>>>>
>>>>>>bashing???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James - you are constantly pushing your opinion (and that's all it is)
>>>
>>>>>>based
>>>>>
>>>>>>on what you *think* you know about these companies
>>>>>>and frankly, most of here just don't care, other than the fact that
>
> it
>
>>>>>>seems
>>>>>
>>>>>>to be taking up a significant part of this forum now.
>>>>>>There is enough fact in the article for you to have seen that Steve
>
> Jobs
>
>>>>>>isn't a charitable saint (didn't make the $1M donation list
>>>>>
>>>>>>from two independant charity/giving studies) - he's just a business
>
> man.
>
>>>>>>Please, please, please, if you can't discuss your opinion with a
>>>>>>balanced
>>>>>
>>>>>>attitude, give it a rest.
>>>>>>Time to climb down off the Apple high horse and realize that Bill Gates
>>>>>
>>>>>>isn't Satan, and Steve Jobs isn't Mother Theresa.
>>>>>>These are companies making products to make a profit and I believe most
>>>>>
>>>>>if
>>>>>
>>>>>>not all of us here understand that, other than you apparently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why do you have such an all-consuming chip on your shoulder against
>
> MS?
>
>>>>>I
>>>>>
>>>>>>don't have a problem with Macs or PCs, MS or Apple, but
>>>>>>I'm also not in love with either one - neither is perfect. Are you
>
> a
>
>>>Mac
>>>
>>>>>>reseller by chance?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Start looking at the world around you without the Apple-colored glasses
>>>>>
>>>>>on.
>>>>>
>>>>>>There's more to life, and computer technology
>>>>>>than evangelizing the Apple mantra. We aren't buying it and you are
>
>
>>>>>>only
>>>>>
>>>>>>hurting your argument, not
>>>>>>that it should be an argument to begin with. Buy and use what you like,
>>>>>
>>>>>and
>>>>>
>>>>>>post all you want about Apple products, but leave
>>>>>>the crusade offline, please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:461539ad$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This isn't balanced, this is opinion! This is a bashing!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You need to get educated on the real history of MS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>START READING!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.albion.com/microsoft/findings-21.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2006/0 1/70072
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Just a little balance of perspective. No conspiracies - just
>>>>>>>>different
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>people with
>>>>>>>>different personalities and personal goals.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:46153119$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>They are just trying to cover up years and years of unethical
>>>>>>>>>business
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>practices.
>>>>>>>>>They are just trying to get people to think their good guys and
>
> to
>
>>>>>>>>>forget
>>>>>>>>>what they have done. The truth is still the truth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Steve Jobs" <SJ@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Causes/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
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| Re: That evil Bill Gates at it again [message #82691 is a reply to message #82681] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 13:27 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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Senior Member |
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did I ever tell the story about the time my Mac caught on fire?
;oD
(ducking for cover)
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46154f13$1@linux...
>
> Like I said, lay off the Mac bashing and I won't have a thing to say about
> it.
>
> James
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>> here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>
>>So does the incessant and useless MS/Gates bashing, and that's all it is,
>>yet you still don't see it or get it.
>>
>>Just calling a spade a spade James. This isn't about MS or Apple, it's
>>about
>>your posts, yet you still don't seem to get that, so I give up. There are
>
>>other forums
>>that aren't hijacked daily by Mac zealots (or any zealot for that matter).
>>
>>This used to be a great forum....
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:461548a3$1@linux...
>>> There are so many untruths that keep getting repeated about Apple.
>>> People
>>> need to get educated about the issue. If any thing is mentioned about
>
>>> Apple
>>> here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>>
>>> If you don't like me posting, then quite the Mac bashing!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>And your posts aren't opinion and your Microsoft/Bill Gates posts aren't
>>>
>>>>bashing???
>>>>
>>>>James - you are constantly pushing your opinion (and that's all it is)
>
>>>>based
>>>
>>>>on what you *think* you know about these companies
>>>>and frankly, most of here just don't care, other than the fact that it
>
>>>>seems
>>>
>>>>to be taking up a significant part of this forum now.
>>>>There is enough fact in the article for you to have seen that Steve Jobs
>>>
>>>>isn't a charitable saint (didn't make the $1M donation list
>>>>from two independant charity/giving studies) - he's just a business man.
>>>>
>>>>Please, please, please, if you can't discuss your opinion with a
>>>>balanced
>>>
>>>>attitude, give it a rest.
>>>>Time to climb down off the Apple high horse and realize that Bill Gates
>>>
>>>>isn't Satan, and Steve Jobs isn't Mother Theresa.
>>>>These are companies making products to make a profit and I believe most
>>> if
>>>>not all of us here understand that, other than you apparently.
>>>>
>>>>Why do you have such an all-consuming chip on your shoulder against MS?
>>> I
>>>>don't have a problem with Macs or PCs, MS or Apple, but
>>>>I'm also not in love with either one - neither is perfect. Are you a
> Mac
>>>
>>>>reseller by chance?
>>>>
>>>>Start looking at the world around you without the Apple-colored glasses
>>> on.
>>>>There's more to life, and computer technology
>>>>than evangelizing the Apple mantra. We aren't buying it and you are
>>>>only
>>>
>>>>hurting your argument, not
>>>>that it should be an argument to begin with. Buy and use what you like,
>>> and
>>>>post all you want about Apple products, but leave
>>>>the crusade offline, please.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Dedric
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:461539ad$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> This isn't balanced, this is opinion! This is a bashing!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to get educated on the real history of MS.
>>>>>
>>>>> START READING!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.albion.com/microsoft/findings-21.html
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2006/0 1/70072
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Just a little balance of perspective. No conspiracies - just
>>>>>>different
>>>>>
>>>>>>people with
>>>>>>different personalities and personal goals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:46153119$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are just trying to cover up years and years of unethical
>>>>>>> business
>>>>>
>>>>>>> practices.
>>>>>>> They are just trying to get people to think their good guys and to
>>>>>>> forget
>>>>>>> what they have done. The truth is still the truth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Steve Jobs" <SJ@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Causes/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: That evil Bill Gates at it again [message #82692 is a reply to message #82685] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 13:46 |
dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005
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Senior Member |
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"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>But I think the Gates Foundation swims in much murkier waters,
>even if I don't have James' 'Bill Gates banged my girlfriend in high school'
>hatred of the fellow.
Shhhh... that was SSC in glasses... Made him look just like Gates...
There is no reason to get defensive about gear, folks...
I sit here every day and watch OSX scramble the desktop around
a bit different every time I open it. Some folders don't open
and populate on the first try! Oh, and the laptop is still
referencing to the wrong time... All I have to do is buy the new
OS to get the RIGHT BLEEDING TIME on my computer....
Rubbish...
And don't even start me on the damn Dell out in my wife's
office... Did you ever think that Norton Antivirus is itself a
VIRUS?? It imposes a huge tax on performance at all times,
takes too damn long to load at bootup, regularly downloads
stupid parental-control lists before I can get to work, and must
be constantly updated to keep the box from turning into an
advert-zombie, not to mention the constant vigilance
of keeping up the anti-spyware app and running it because
Gates lets any dildo who feels like it jam stuff into
your registry...
Oh, and have you done a system scan with Norton recently?
Do you have the time?
As you all know, there's lots more...
Folks getting into a fight over computers is as stupid as the
yahoos out here with the little piss-boy on the back of their
trucks... The guys with the Ford trucks have the boy pissing
on Chevy or Dodge, and of course, the others guys have
piss boy peeing on the other brands...
It's flippin' retarded.
I am thinking of writing a tune called
"Everyone's Peeing on Someone"
(subtitled "Welcome to California")
Think Ramones...
Don't fight about computers....
It ain't worth it. No one cares.
DC
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| Re: That evil Bill Gates at it again [message #82693 is a reply to message #82689] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 13:57 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Senior Member |
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Not a chance Larry. Dedric has stated here that he is intentionally going
out of his way to screw with me. He has made this personal. He doesn't
need to jump on my threads and start shit with me. Everybody else say what
ever they want, when they want and it's Ok. I'll cool it on any PC gates
Bashing, if that's what you guys want to call it.
James
Larry Upton <lupton@kpbs.org> wrote:
>James,
>
>I like you, man, we've done business together, and ordinarily, you seem
>like a good guy, but dude, I think you just got yourself banned...
>
>Be the bigger man, walk away...
>
>Larry
>
>(Yeah, I butted in, too...)
>
>James McCloskey wrote:
>> Hey Dedric, no one asked you to butt in on this thread either. Dedric
go
>> fuck yourself!
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Umm... where did I "bash" Macs? That article was about the differences
>>
>> in
>>
>>>charity giving between two
>>>CEOs. You are the one that posted the subject "Microsoft Sues software
>>
>>
>>>sellers", and many
>>>other antagonistic anti-MS/PC posts, and insertions into other threads
to
>>
>>
>>>derail them into
>>>a Mac vs. PC debate.
>>>
>>>We normally discuss technical issues, pros and cons here and don't seem
>>
>> to
>>
>>>have a problem
>>>coming to agreement on what is fact and what is opinion, and agreeing
to
>>
>>
>>>disagree... at least until now.
>>>
>>>If you see that as bashing, then perhaps it's your defensiveness that
needs
>>
>>
>>>addressing.
>>>It isn't your job to tell the rest of us what to say or think. This is
>>
>> your
>>
>>>move to make now James, not ours.
>>>
>>>(Not that I can speak for the rest of the forum, but judging by some
>>>responses you've gotten,
>>>I think it's safe to say I'm not alone in my view on this).
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:46154f13$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>Like I said, lay off the Mac bashing and I won't have a thing to say
about
>>>>it.
>>>>
>>>>James
>>>>
>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>>>>
>>>>>So does the incessant and useless MS/Gates bashing, and that's all it
>>
>> is,
>>
>>>>>yet you still don't see it or get it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Just calling a spade a spade James. This isn't about MS or Apple, it's
>>
>>
>>>>>about
>>>>>your posts, yet you still don't seem to get that, so I give up. There
>>
>> are
>>
>>>>>other forums
>>>>>that aren't hijacked daily by Mac zealots (or any zealot for that matter).
>>>>>
>>>>>This used to be a great forum....
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:461548a3$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>>There are so many untruths that keep getting repeated about Apple.
>>>>>>People
>>>>>>need to get educated about the issue. If any thing is mentioned about
>>>>
>>>>>>Apple
>>>>>>here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you don't like me posting, then quite the Mac bashing!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And your posts aren't opinion and your Microsoft/Bill Gates posts
aren't
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>bashing???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>James - you are constantly pushing your opinion (and that's all it
is)
>>>>
>>>>>>>based
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>on what you *think* you know about these companies
>>>>>>>and frankly, most of here just don't care, other than the fact that
>>
>> it
>>
>>>>>>>seems
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>to be taking up a significant part of this forum now.
>>>>>>>There is enough fact in the article for you to have seen that Steve
>>
>> Jobs
>>
>>>>>>>isn't a charitable saint (didn't make the $1M donation list
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>from two independant charity/giving studies) - he's just a business
>>
>> man.
>>
>>>>>>>Please, please, please, if you can't discuss your opinion with a
>>>>>>>balanced
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>attitude, give it a rest.
>>>>>>>Time to climb down off the Apple high horse and realize that Bill
Gates
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>isn't Satan, and Steve Jobs isn't Mother Theresa.
>>>>>>>These are companies making products to make a profit and I believe
most
>>>>>>
>>>>>>if
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>not all of us here understand that, other than you apparently.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Why do you have such an all-consuming chip on your shoulder against
>>
>> MS?
>>
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>don't have a problem with Macs or PCs, MS or Apple, but
>>>>>>>I'm also not in love with either one - neither is perfect. Are you
>>
>> a
>>
>>>>Mac
>>>>
>>>>>>>reseller by chance?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Start looking at the world around you without the Apple-colored glasses
>>>>>>
>>>>>>on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There's more to life, and computer technology
>>>>>>>than evangelizing the Apple mantra. We aren't buying it and you are
>>
>>
>>>>>>>only
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>hurting your argument, not
>>>>>>>that it should be an argument to begin with. Buy and use what you
like,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>post all you want about Apple products, but leave
>>>>>>>the crusade offline, please.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:461539ad$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This isn't balanced, this is opinion! This is a bashing!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You need to get educated on the real history of MS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>START READING!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.albion.com/microsoft/findings-21.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2006/0 1/70072
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Just a little balance of perspective. No conspiracies - just
>>>>>>>>>different
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>people with
>>>>>>>>>different personalities and personal goals.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:46153119$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>They are just trying to cover up years and years of unethical
>>>>>>>>>>business
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>practices.
>>>>>>>>>>They are just trying to get people to think their good guys and
>>
>> to
>>
>>>>>>>>>>forget
>>>>>>>>>>what they have done. The truth is still the truth.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Steve Jobs" <SJ@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Causes/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
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| the world is vewwy vewwy stwange [message #82695 is a reply to message #82692] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 14:01 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
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Now *this* is scary!!!
I Googled Calvin decals to see if I could find one of Calvin pissin' on a
Mac or PC and came across this forum:
http://www.f150online.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-20238.h tml
there's wierder shit crawlin around in people's heads than I really want to
think about these days.......well, I guess if someone came up with a sticker
of a guy in a Paris T-shirt pissin on a ProTools rig, it might piss some
people off, but since most PT rigs I've seen run on Macs, you'd get a
*twofer*
;oP
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:46156028$1@linux...
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>>But I think the Gates Foundation swims in much murkier waters,
>>even if I don't have James' 'Bill Gates banged my girlfriend in high
>>school'
>>hatred of the fellow.
>
> Shhhh... that was SSC in glasses... Made him look just like Gates...
>
>
> There is no reason to get defensive about gear, folks...
>
> I sit here every day and watch OSX scramble the desktop around
> a bit different every time I open it. Some folders don't open
> and populate on the first try! Oh, and the laptop is still
> referencing to the wrong time... All I have to do is buy the new
> OS to get the RIGHT BLEEDING TIME on my computer....
>
> Rubbish...
>
> And don't even start me on the damn Dell out in my wife's
> office... Did you ever think that Norton Antivirus is itself a
> VIRUS?? It imposes a huge tax on performance at all times,
> takes too damn long to load at bootup, regularly downloads
> stupid parental-control lists before I can get to work, and must
> be constantly updated to keep the box from turning into an
> advert-zombie, not to mention the constant vigilance
> of keeping up the anti-spyware app and running it because
> Gates lets any dildo who feels like it jam stuff into
> your registry...
>
> Oh, and have you done a system scan with Norton recently?
>
> Do you have the time?
>
> As you all know, there's lots more...
>
>
> Folks getting into a fight over computers is as stupid as the
> yahoos out here with the little piss-boy on the back of their
> trucks... The guys with the Ford trucks have the boy pissing
> on Chevy or Dodge, and of course, the others guys have
> piss boy peeing on the other brands...
>
> It's flippin' retarded.
>
> I am thinking of writing a tune called
>
> "Everyone's Peeing on Someone"
> (subtitled "Welcome to California")
>
> Think Ramones...
>
>
> Don't fight about computers....
> It ain't worth it. No one cares.
>
> DC
>
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| Re: the world is vewwy vewwy stwange [message #82696 is a reply to message #82695] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 14:11 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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HEY... my peeps!
I drive an F150! What should my login name be??? :-p
David.
DJ wrote:
> Now *this* is scary!!!
>
> I Googled Calvin decals to see if I could find one of Calvin pissin' on a
> Mac or PC and came across this forum:
> http://www.f150online.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-20238.h tml
>
> there's wierder shit crawlin around in people's heads than I really want to
> think about these days.......well, I guess if someone came up with a sticker
> of a guy in a Paris T-shirt pissin on a ProTools rig, it might piss some
> people off, but since most PT rigs I've seen run on Macs, you'd get a
> *twofer*
>
> ;oP
>
> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:46156028$1@linux...
>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>But I think the Gates Foundation swims in much murkier waters,
>>>even if I don't have James' 'Bill Gates banged my girlfriend in high
>>>school'
>>>hatred of the fellow.
>>
>>Shhhh... that was SSC in glasses... Made him look just like Gates...
>>
>>
>>There is no reason to get defensive about gear, folks...
>>
>>I sit here every day and watch OSX scramble the desktop around
>>a bit different every time I open it. Some folders don't open
>>and populate on the first try! Oh, and the laptop is still
>>referencing to the wrong time... All I have to do is buy the new
>>OS to get the RIGHT BLEEDING TIME on my computer....
>>
>>Rubbish...
>>
>>And don't even start me on the damn Dell out in my wife's
>>office... Did you ever think that Norton Antivirus is itself a
>>VIRUS?? It imposes a huge tax on performance at all times,
>>takes too damn long to load at bootup, regularly downloads
>>stupid parental-control lists before I can get to work, and must
>>be constantly updated to keep the box from turning into an
>>advert-zombie, not to mention the constant vigilance
>>of keeping up the anti-spyware app and running it because
>>Gates lets any dildo who feels like it jam stuff into
>>your registry...
>>
>>Oh, and have you done a system scan with Norton recently?
>>
>>Do you have the time?
>>
>>As you all know, there's lots more...
>>
>>
>>Folks getting into a fight over computers is as stupid as the
>>yahoos out here with the little piss-boy on the back of their
>>trucks... The guys with the Ford trucks have the boy pissing
>>on Chevy or Dodge, and of course, the others guys have
>>piss boy peeing on the other brands...
>>
>>It's flippin' retarded.
>>
>>I am thinking of writing a tune called
>>
>>"Everyone's Peeing on Someone"
>>(subtitled "Welcome to California")
>>
>>Think Ramones...
>>
>>
>>Don't fight about computers....
>>It ain't worth it. No one cares.
>>
>>DC
>>
>
>
>
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| Re: That evil Bill Gates at it again [message #82702 is a reply to message #82687] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 14:57 |
erlilo
Messages: 405
Registered: June 2005
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Hmm.... .....James, it seems you have stopped thinking clearly here....
.....but maybe it's just my ironical Apple/MS opinion that's saying something
with my pen.... ...hmmm...;-)
erlilo (when I'm not too serious);-o)
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:461555d5$1@linux...
>
> Hey Dedric, no one asked you to butt in on this thread either. Dedric go
> fuck yourself!
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>Umm... where did I "bash" Macs? That article was about the differences
> in
>>charity giving between two
>>CEOs. You are the one that posted the subject "Microsoft Sues software
>
>>sellers", and many
>>other antagonistic anti-MS/PC posts, and insertions into other threads to
>
>>derail them into
>>a Mac vs. PC debate.
>>
>>We normally discuss technical issues, pros and cons here and don't seem
> to
>>have a problem
>>coming to agreement on what is fact and what is opinion, and agreeing to
>
>>disagree... at least until now.
>>
>>If you see that as bashing, then perhaps it's your defensiveness that
>>needs
>
>>addressing.
>>It isn't your job to tell the rest of us what to say or think. This is
> your
>>move to make now James, not ours.
>>
>>(Not that I can speak for the rest of the forum, but judging by some
>>responses you've gotten,
>>I think it's safe to say I'm not alone in my view on this).
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:46154f13$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Like I said, lay off the Mac bashing and I won't have a thing to say
>>> about
>>> it.
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>> here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>>>
>>>>So does the incessant and useless MS/Gates bashing, and that's all it
> is,
>>>>yet you still don't see it or get it.
>>>>
>>>>Just calling a spade a spade James. This isn't about MS or Apple, it's
>
>>>>about
>>>>your posts, yet you still don't seem to get that, so I give up. There
> are
>>>
>>>>other forums
>>>>that aren't hijacked daily by Mac zealots (or any zealot for that
>>>>matter).
>>>>
>>>>This used to be a great forum....
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:461548a3$1@linux...
>>>>> There are so many untruths that keep getting repeated about Apple.
>>>>> People
>>>>> need to get educated about the issue. If any thing is mentioned about
>>>
>>>>> Apple
>>>>> here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't like me posting, then quite the Mac bashing!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> James
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>And your posts aren't opinion and your Microsoft/Bill Gates posts
>>>>>>aren't
>>>>>
>>>>>>bashing???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James - you are constantly pushing your opinion (and that's all it is)
>>>
>>>>>>based
>>>>>
>>>>>>on what you *think* you know about these companies
>>>>>>and frankly, most of here just don't care, other than the fact that
> it
>>>
>>>>>>seems
>>>>>
>>>>>>to be taking up a significant part of this forum now.
>>>>>>There is enough fact in the article for you to have seen that Steve
> Jobs
>>>>>
>>>>>>isn't a charitable saint (didn't make the $1M donation list
>>>>>>from two independant charity/giving studies) - he's just a business
> man.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Please, please, please, if you can't discuss your opinion with a
>>>>>>balanced
>>>>>
>>>>>>attitude, give it a rest.
>>>>>>Time to climb down off the Apple high horse and realize that Bill
>>>>>>Gates
>>>>>
>>>>>>isn't Satan, and Steve Jobs isn't Mother Theresa.
>>>>>>These are companies making products to make a profit and I believe
>>>>>>most
>>>>> if
>>>>>>not all of us here understand that, other than you apparently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why do you have such an all-consuming chip on your shoulder against
> MS?
>>>>> I
>>>>>>don't have a problem with Macs or PCs, MS or Apple, but
>>>>>>I'm also not in love with either one - neither is perfect. Are you
> a
>>> Mac
>>>>>
>>>>>>reseller by chance?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Start looking at the world around you without the Apple-colored
>>>>>>glasses
>>>>> on.
>>>>>>There's more to life, and computer technology
>>>>>>than evangelizing the Apple mantra. We aren't buying it and you are
>
>>>>>>only
>>>>>
>>>>>>hurting your argument, not
>>>>>>that it should be an argument to begin with. Buy and use what you
>>>>>>like,
>>>>> and
>>>>>>post all you want about Apple products, but leave
>>>>>>the crusade offline, please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:461539ad$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This isn't balanced, this is opinion! This is a bashing!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You need to get educated on the real history of MS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> START READING!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.albion.com/microsoft/findings-21.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2006/0 1/70072
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Just a little balance of perspective. No conspiracies - just
>>>>>>>>different
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>people with
>>>>>>>>different personalities and personal goals.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:46153119$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They are just trying to cover up years and years of unethical
>>>>>>>>> business
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> practices.
>>>>>>>>> They are just trying to get people to think their good guys and
> to
>>>>>>>>> forget
>>>>>>>>> what they have done. The truth is still the truth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Steve Jobs" <SJ@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Causes/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: That evil Bill Gates at it again [message #82704 is a reply to message #82691] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 15:05 |
erlilo
Messages: 405
Registered: June 2005
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Senior Member |
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Yes. It was when you were trying to do tests with some Behringer stuff ;oD
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:46155cde@linux...
> did I ever tell the story about the time my Mac caught on fire?
>
>
> ;oD
> (ducking for cover)
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:46154f13$1@linux...
>>
>> Like I said, lay off the Mac bashing and I won't have a thing to say
>> about
>> it.
>>
>> James
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>> here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>>
>>>So does the incessant and useless MS/Gates bashing, and that's all it is,
>>>yet you still don't see it or get it.
>>>
>>>Just calling a spade a spade James. This isn't about MS or Apple, it's
>>>about
>>>your posts, yet you still don't seem to get that, so I give up. There are
>>
>>>other forums
>>>that aren't hijacked daily by Mac zealots (or any zealot for that
>>>matter).
>>>
>>>This used to be a great forum....
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:461548a3$1@linux...
>>>> There are so many untruths that keep getting repeated about Apple.
>>>> People
>>>> need to get educated about the issue. If any thing is mentioned about
>>
>>>> Apple
>>>> here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>>>
>>>> If you don't like me posting, then quite the Mac bashing!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>And your posts aren't opinion and your Microsoft/Bill Gates posts
>>>>>aren't
>>>>
>>>>>bashing???
>>>>>
>>>>>James - you are constantly pushing your opinion (and that's all it is)
>>
>>>>>based
>>>>
>>>>>on what you *think* you know about these companies
>>>>>and frankly, most of here just don't care, other than the fact that it
>>
>>>>>seems
>>>>
>>>>>to be taking up a significant part of this forum now.
>>>>>There is enough fact in the article for you to have seen that Steve
>>>>>Jobs
>>>>
>>>>>isn't a charitable saint (didn't make the $1M donation list
>>>>>from two independant charity/giving studies) - he's just a business
>>>>>man.
>>>>>
>>>>>Please, please, please, if you can't discuss your opinion with a
>>>>>balanced
>>>>
>>>>>attitude, give it a rest.
>>>>>Time to climb down off the Apple high horse and realize that Bill Gates
>>>>
>>>>>isn't Satan, and Steve Jobs isn't Mother Theresa.
>>>>>These are companies making products to make a profit and I believe most
>>>> if
>>>>>not all of us here understand that, other than you apparently.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why do you have such an all-consuming chip on your shoulder against MS?
>>>> I
>>>>>don't have a problem with Macs or PCs, MS or Apple, but
>>>>>I'm also not in love with either one - neither is perfect. Are you a
>> Mac
>>>>
>>>>>reseller by chance?
>>>>>
>>>>>Start looking at the world around you without the Apple-colored glasses
>>>> on.
>>>>>There's more to life, and computer technology
>>>>>than evangelizing the Apple mantra. We aren't buying it and you are
>>>>>only
>>>>
>>>>>hurting your argument, not
>>>>>that it should be an argument to begin with. Buy and use what you
>>>>>like,
>>>> and
>>>>>post all you want about Apple products, but leave
>>>>>the crusade offline, please.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:461539ad$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This isn't balanced, this is opinion! This is a bashing!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You need to get educated on the real history of MS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> START READING!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.albion.com/microsoft/findings-21.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2006/0 1/70072
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just a little balance of perspective. No conspiracies - just
>>>>>>>different
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>people with
>>>>>>>different personalities and personal goals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:46153119$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They are just trying to cover up years and years of unethical
>>>>>>>> business
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> practices.
>>>>>>>> They are just trying to get people to think their good guys and to
>>>>>>>> forget
>>>>>>>> what they have done. The truth is still the truth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Steve Jobs" <SJ@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Causes/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: That evil Bill Gates at it again [message #82706 is a reply to message #82693] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 16:26 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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Senior Member |
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James let's keep one thing straight, I said I was "giving you a hard time"
because you wouldn't
back of from the hyperbole and look at your argument or anyone else's
objectively.
You would follow up a technical comparison with "Macs are better", "Macs
look slick", or
"Microsoft steals". Hardly established provable debating points.
FYI: Giving you a hard time means "joking around with you", "ribbing you",
"teasing", etc.
I used humor many times, thinking you would get the idea and realize how
silly some of your
comments sounded and just laugh it off, but apparently it was lost on you,
and instead you took it personally.
It's NEVER (can I make that any clearer?), been personal with me until
you insulted me and my faith directly, even though that had nothing to do
with the conversation.
And now you are blatantly, verbally attacking me with abusive language. That
is uncalled for and hardly a reasonable
response no matter how badly you hate PCs, MS, or PC users.
My contribution to this thread was nothing but a link and a suggestion for a
balance the perspective.
That's it. And the thread was started from a spoof name, so how was I to
know it was "YOUR" thread??
I didn't know anyone needed an invitation to post here, and I didn't know
people owned
their own threads. In all the years I've participated on this forum, I've
never seen such a viceral
response from anyone on such a silly topic, yet you have jumped into
virtually every thread you
could steer to a Mac debate whether it was the topic or not.
The problem isn't me stating my opinion, it's you selectively seeing what
you want
when reading my posts - as if I were writing in Chinese. Like I've said
over and over again,
I don't care if you love Macs - great, cool by me - just try to respect
everyone else here when you post
and realize that your opinion isn't the last word on the subject, whether we
agree with you or not.
Personal insults and bullying will get you nowhere. Congrats though, you
are the first to ever say
those words to me, if that tells you anything. And you said it twice.
So, how about a truce? Drop the personal insults is all I ask. I have no
interest in this topic (PC vs. Mac) anymore
since it seems to have hit a nerve with you, so I won't be posting anymore
on platform issues (if I post at all), regardless of how
technical or actually useful it would be - just too prone to diversion
lately. You can do whatever you want.
If there's too much Mac noise here, there are other forums - no sweat off my
back in finding another place to converse reasonably.
Dedric
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:461562bf$1@linux...
>
> Not a chance Larry. Dedric has stated here that he is intentionally going
> out of his way to screw with me. He has made this personal. He doesn't
> need to jump on my threads and start shit with me. Everybody else say
> what
> ever they want, when they want and it's Ok. I'll cool it on any PC gates
> Bashing, if that's what you guys want to call it.
>
> James
>
>
> Larry Upton <lupton@kpbs.org> wrote:
>>James,
>>
>>I like you, man, we've done business together, and ordinarily, you seem
>
>>like a good guy, but dude, I think you just got yourself banned...
>>
>>Be the bigger man, walk away...
>>
>>Larry
>>
>>(Yeah, I butted in, too...)
>>
>>James McCloskey wrote:
>>> Hey Dedric, no one asked you to butt in on this thread either. Dedric
> go
>>> fuck yourself!
>>>
>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Umm... where did I "bash" Macs? That article was about the differences
>>>
>>> in
>>>
>>>>charity giving between two
>>>>CEOs. You are the one that posted the subject "Microsoft Sues software
>>>
>>>
>>>>sellers", and many
>>>>other antagonistic anti-MS/PC posts, and insertions into other threads
> to
>>>
>>>
>>>>derail them into
>>>>a Mac vs. PC debate.
>>>>
>>>>We normally discuss technical issues, pros and cons here and don't seem
>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>>have a problem
>>>>coming to agreement on what is fact and what is opinion, and agreeing
> to
>>>
>>>
>>>>disagree... at least until now.
>>>>
>>>>If you see that as bashing, then perhaps it's your defensiveness that
> needs
>>>
>>>
>>>>addressing.
>>>>It isn't your job to tell the rest of us what to say or think. This is
>>>
>>> your
>>>
>>>>move to make now James, not ours.
>>>>
>>>>(Not that I can speak for the rest of the forum, but judging by some
>>>>responses you've gotten,
>>>>I think it's safe to say I'm not alone in my view on this).
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:46154f13$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>Like I said, lay off the Mac bashing and I won't have a thing to say
> about
>>>>>it.
>>>>>
>>>>>James
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So does the incessant and useless MS/Gates bashing, and that's all it
>>>
>>> is,
>>>
>>>>>>yet you still don't see it or get it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Just calling a spade a spade James. This isn't about MS or Apple, it's
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>about
>>>>>>your posts, yet you still don't seem to get that, so I give up. There
>>>
>>> are
>>>
>>>>>>other forums
>>>>>>that aren't hijacked daily by Mac zealots (or any zealot for that
>>>>>>matter).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This used to be a great forum....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:461548a3$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There are so many untruths that keep getting repeated about Apple.
>
>>>>>>>People
>>>>>>>need to get educated about the issue. If any thing is mentioned
>>>>>>>about
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Apple
>>>>>>>here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you don't like me posting, then quite the Mac bashing!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And your posts aren't opinion and your Microsoft/Bill Gates posts
> aren't
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>bashing???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>James - you are constantly pushing your opinion (and that's all it
> is)
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>based
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>on what you *think* you know about these companies
>>>>>>>>and frankly, most of here just don't care, other than the fact that
>>>
>>> it
>>>
>>>>>>>>seems
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>to be taking up a significant part of this forum now.
>>>>>>>>There is enough fact in the article for you to have seen that Steve
>>>
>>> Jobs
>>>
>>>>>>>>isn't a charitable saint (didn't make the $1M donation list
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>from two independant charity/giving studies) - he's just a business
>>>
>>> man.
>>>
>>>>>>>>Please, please, please, if you can't discuss your opinion with a
>>>>>>>>balanced
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>attitude, give it a rest.
>>>>>>>>Time to climb down off the Apple high horse and realize that Bill
> Gates
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>isn't Satan, and Steve Jobs isn't Mother Theresa.
>>>>>>>>These are companies making products to make a profit and I believe
> most
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>not all of us here understand that, other than you apparently.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Why do you have such an all-consuming chip on your shoulder against
>>>
>>> MS?
>>>
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>don't have a problem with Macs or PCs, MS or Apple, but
>>>>>>>>I'm also not in love with either one - neither is perfect. Are you
>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>>>Mac
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>reseller by chance?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Start looking at the world around you without the Apple-colored
>>>>>>>>glasses
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>There's more to life, and computer technology
>>>>>>>>than evangelizing the Apple mantra. We aren't buying it and you are
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>only
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>hurting your argument, not
>>>>>>>>that it should be an argument to begin with. Buy and use what you
> like,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>post all you want about Apple products, but leave
>>>>>>>>the crusade offline, please.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:461539ad$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>This isn't balanced, this is opinion! This is a bashing!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You need to get educated on the real history of MS.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>START READING!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>http://www.albion.com/microsoft/findings-21.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2006/0 1/70072
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Just a little balance of perspective. No conspiracies - just
>>>>>>>>>>different
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>people with
>>>>>>>>>>different personalities and personal goals.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>news:46153119$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>They are just trying to cover up years and years of unethical
>>>>>>>>>>>business
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>practices.
>>>>>>>>>>>They are just trying to get people to think their good guys and
>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>forget
>>>>>>>>>>>what they have done. The truth is still the truth.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Steve Jobs" <SJ@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Causes/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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| Re: That evil Bill Gates at it again [message #82719 is a reply to message #82688] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 22:32 |
dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005
|
Senior Member |
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That's really quite enough of that James.
unacceptable. Take a break please.
DC
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Dedric, you obviously want to make this personal, so I'll say it again,
go
>fuck yourself!
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Dedric, no one asked you to butt in on this thread either. Dedric
go
>>fuck yourself!
>>
>>"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>Umm... where did I "bash" Macs? That article was about the differences
>>in
>>>charity giving between two
>>>CEOs. You are the one that posted the subject "Microsoft Sues software
>>
>>>sellers", and many
>>>other antagonistic anti-MS/PC posts, and insertions into other threads
>to
>>
>>>derail them into
>>>a Mac vs. PC debate.
>>>
>>>We normally discuss technical issues, pros and cons here and don't seem
>>to
>>>have a problem
>>>coming to agreement on what is fact and what is opinion, and agreeing
to
>>
>>>disagree... at least until now.
>>>
>>>If you see that as bashing, then perhaps it's your defensiveness that
needs
>>
>>>addressing.
>>>It isn't your job to tell the rest of us what to say or think. This is
>>your
>>>move to make now James, not ours.
>>>
>>>(Not that I can speak for the rest of the forum, but judging by some
>>>responses you've gotten,
>>>I think it's safe to say I'm not alone in my view on this).
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:46154f13$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Like I said, lay off the Mac bashing and I won't have a thing to say
>about
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>> here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>>>>
>>>>>So does the incessant and useless MS/Gates bashing, and that's all it
>>is,
>>>>>yet you still don't see it or get it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Just calling a spade a spade James. This isn't about MS or Apple, it's
>>
>>>>>about
>>>>>your posts, yet you still don't seem to get that, so I give up. There
>>are
>>>>
>>>>>other forums
>>>>>that aren't hijacked daily by Mac zealots (or any zealot for that matter).
>>>>>
>>>>>This used to be a great forum....
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:461548a3$1@linux...
>>>>>> There are so many untruths that keep getting repeated about Apple.
>
>>>>>> People
>>>>>> need to get educated about the issue. If any thing is mentioned about
>>>>
>>>>>> Apple
>>>>>> here on the NG the bashing starts. That's getting old.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't like me posting, then quite the Mac bashing!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>And your posts aren't opinion and your Microsoft/Bill Gates posts
aren't
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>bashing???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>James - you are constantly pushing your opinion (and that's all it
>is)
>>>>
>>>>>>>based
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>on what you *think* you know about these companies
>>>>>>>and frankly, most of here just don't care, other than the fact that
>>it
>>>>
>>>>>>>seems
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>to be taking up a significant part of this forum now.
>>>>>>>There is enough fact in the article for you to have seen that Steve
>>Jobs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>isn't a charitable saint (didn't make the $1M donation list
>>>>>>>from two independant charity/giving studies) - he's just a business
>>man.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Please, please, please, if you can't discuss your opinion with a
>>>>>>>balanced
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>attitude, give it a rest.
>>>>>>>Time to climb down off the Apple high horse and realize that Bill
Gates
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>isn't Satan, and Steve Jobs isn't Mother Theresa.
>>>>>>>These are companies making products to make a profit and I believe
>most
>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>not all of us here understand that, other than you apparently.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Why do you have such an all-consuming chip on your shoulder against
>>MS?
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>don't have a problem with Macs or PCs, MS or Apple, but
>>>>>>>I'm also not in love with either one - neither is perfect. Are you
>>a
>>>> Mac
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>reseller by chance?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Start looking at the world around you without the Apple-colored glasses
>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>There's more to life, and computer technology
>>>>>>>than evangelizing the Apple mantra. We aren't buying it and you are
>>
>>>>>>>only
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>hurting your argument, not
>>>>>>>that it should be an argument to begin with. Buy and use what you
>like,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>post all you want about Apple products, but leave
>>>>>>>the crusade offline, please.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:461539ad$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This isn't balanced, this is opinion! This is a bashing!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You need to get educated on the real history of MS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> START READING!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.albion.com/microsoft/findings-21.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2006/0 1/70072
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Just a little balance of perspective. No conspiracies - just
>>>>>>>>>different
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>people with
>>>>>>>>>different personalities and personal goals.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:46153119$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They are just trying to cover up years and years of unethical
>>>>>>>>>> business
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> practices.
>>>>>>>>>> They are just trying to get people to think their good guys and
>>to
>>>>>>>>>> forget
>>>>>>>>>> what they have done. The truth is still the truth.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Steve Jobs" <SJ@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Causes/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: the world is vewwy vewwy stwange [message #82726 is a reply to message #82695] |
Fri, 06 April 2007 03:21 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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Senior Member |
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careful, it might turn into wine...
On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 15:01:55 -0600, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
wrote:
>Now *this* is scary!!!
>
>I Googled Calvin decals to see if I could find one of Calvin pissin' on a
>Mac or PC and came across this forum:
> http://www.f150online.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-20238.h tml
>
>there's wierder shit crawlin around in people's heads than I really want to
>think about these days.......well, I guess if someone came up with a sticker
>of a guy in a Paris T-shirt pissin on a ProTools rig, it might piss some
>people off, but since most PT rigs I've seen run on Macs, you'd get a
>*twofer*
>
>;oP
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:46156028$1@linux...
>>
>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>But I think the Gates Foundation swims in much murkier waters,
>>>even if I don't have James' 'Bill Gates banged my girlfriend in high
>>>school'
>>>hatred of the fellow.
>>
>> Shhhh... that was SSC in glasses... Made him look just like Gates...
>>
>>
>> There is no reason to get defensive about gear, folks...
>>
>> I sit here every day and watch OSX scramble the desktop around
>> a bit different every time I open it. Some folders don't open
>> and populate on the first try! Oh, and the laptop is still
>> referencing to the wrong time... All I have to do is buy the new
>> OS to get the RIGHT BLEEDING TIME on my computer....
>>
>> Rubbish...
>>
>> And don't even start me on the damn Dell out in my wife's
>> office... Did you ever think that Norton Antivirus is itself a
>> VIRUS?? It imposes a huge tax on performance at all times,
>> takes too damn long to load at bootup, regularly downloads
>> stupid parental-control lists before I can get to work, and must
>> be constantly updated to keep the box from turning into an
>> advert-zombie, not to mention the constant vigilance
>> of keeping up the anti-spyware app and running it because
>> Gates lets any dildo who feels like it jam stuff into
>> your registry...
>>
>> Oh, and have you done a system scan with Norton recently?
>>
>> Do you have the time?
>>
>> As you all know, there's lots more...
>>
>>
>> Folks getting into a fight over computers is as stupid as the
>> yahoos out here with the little piss-boy on the back of their
>> trucks... The guys with the Ford trucks have the boy pissing
>> on Chevy or Dodge, and of course, the others guys have
>> piss boy peeing on the other brands...
>>
>> It's flippin' retarded.
>>
>> I am thinking of writing a tune called
>>
>> "Everyone's Peeing on Someone"
>> (subtitled "Welcome to California")
>>
>> Think Ramones...
>>
>>
>> Don't fight about computers....
>> It ain't worth it. No one cares.
>>
>> DC
>>
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