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Paris and XP Woes.... [message #67509] Mon, 01 May 2006 19:49 Go to next message
jwires is currently offline  jwires   UNITED STATES
Messages: 5
Registered: January 2006
Junior Member
We are having all kinds of problems getting Paris 3.0 to work with XP Pro.
Originally we started using a Abit An8 with an nForce 4 chipset, AMD Athlon
64 X2 3800+, 2 GB ram, several hard drives and XP Pro. We use 1 Mec and 2
EDS 1000 cards, also a Matrox P650 dualhead pci-e video card. We followed
the installations tips for XP beta drivers, but no luck. Thinking maybe
Paris didn't like the new chipset, we switched m/b to a Asus A8V-E with a
Via chipset, still no go. Why is it, some people seem to get it working
with no troubles, and others can't seem to ever get it working? Also, what
should be seen in XP's device manager? The only things we see are a Ensoniq
MIDI driver. Is this indicative of a conflict? The error message we get is
Error 1/1: Can't initialize engine. They work just fine on the older pc
with Windows 98se. Unlike in 98se, XP doesn't show any Ensoniq EDS1000
cards in Device Manager, only the Paris Midi Driver. It doesn't even
recognize that a new device is installed, once the EDS cards are put in.
Other cards such as mdoem, network card, etc. are recognized. Need help.
Re: Paris and XP Woes.... [message #67512 is a reply to message #67509] Mon, 01 May 2006 20:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Edna Sloan is currently offline  Edna Sloan   UNITED STATES
Messages: 304
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
Did you install the FX Subsystem?

"cr8250" <jwires@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:4456c7d3$1@linux...
> We are having all kinds of problems getting Paris 3.0 to work with XP Pro.
> Originally we started using a Abit An8 with an nForce 4 chipset, AMD
Athlon
> 64 X2 3800+, 2 GB ram, several hard drives and XP Pro. We use 1 Mec and 2
> EDS 1000 cards, also a Matrox P650 dualhead pci-e video card. We followed
> the installations tips for XP beta drivers, but no luck. Thinking maybe
> Paris didn't like the new chipset, we switched m/b to a Asus A8V-E with a
> Via chipset, still no go. Why is it, some people seem to get it working
> with no troubles, and others can't seem to ever get it working? Also,
what
> should be seen in XP's device manager? The only things we see are a
Ensoniq
> MIDI driver. Is this indicative of a conflict? The error message we get
is
> Error 1/1: Can't initialize engine. They work just fine on the older pc
> with Windows 98se. Unlike in 98se, XP doesn't show any Ensoniq EDS1000
> cards in Device Manager, only the Paris Midi Driver. It doesn't even
> recognize that a new device is installed, once the EDS cards are put in.
> Other cards such as mdoem, network card, etc. are recognized. Need help.
>
>
Re: Paris and XP Woes.... [message #67518 is a reply to message #67512] Mon, 01 May 2006 23:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jwires is currently offline  jwires   UNITED STATES
Messages: 5
Registered: January 2006
Junior Member
Yes. When putting the EDS cards, it doesn't seem like XP is even seeing
them, as with other devices. I am hearing more about Matrox video cards not
being friendly with Paris, which is a shame because they are nice cards. Is
anybody running Paris with any of the new motherboard chipsets? How about
dual core cpu's?


"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message news:4456d573@linux...
> Did you install the FX Subsystem?
>
> "cr8250" <jwires@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:4456c7d3$1@linux...
> > We are having all kinds of problems getting Paris 3.0 to work with XP
Pro.
> > Originally we started using a Abit An8 with an nForce 4 chipset, AMD
> Athlon
> > 64 X2 3800+, 2 GB ram, several hard drives and XP Pro. We use 1 Mec and
2
> > EDS 1000 cards, also a Matrox P650 dualhead pci-e video card. We
followed
> > the installations tips for XP beta drivers, but no luck. Thinking maybe
> > Paris didn't like the new chipset, we switched m/b to a Asus A8V-E with
a
> > Via chipset, still no go. Why is it, some people seem to get it working
> > with no troubles, and others can't seem to ever get it working? Also,
> what
> > should be seen in XP's device manager? The only things we see are a
> Ensoniq
> > MIDI driver. Is this indicative of a conflict? The error message we
get
> is
> > Error 1/1: Can't initialize engine. They work just fine on the older
pc
> > with Windows 98se. Unlike in 98se, XP doesn't show any Ensoniq EDS1000
> > cards in Device Manager, only the Paris Midi Driver. It doesn't even
> > recognize that a new device is installed, once the EDS cards are put in.
> > Other cards such as mdoem, network card, etc. are recognized. Need
help.
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Paris and XP Woes.... [message #67522 is a reply to message #67518] Mon, 01 May 2006 23:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
There are certainly known issues with dual core CPU's, though my understanding
was that the app would load, but crash, and that the issues mostly related
to the C16. They are a known issue however, but there was recent talk of
a workaround, involving a line in Windows which changed the way the second
core responded to interrupts or some such thing.

Cheers,
Kim.

"cr8250" <jwires@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Yes. When putting the EDS cards, it doesn't seem like XP is even seeing
>them, as with other devices. I am hearing more about Matrox video cards
not
>being friendly with Paris, which is a shame because they are nice cards.
Is
>anybody running Paris with any of the new motherboard chipsets? How about
>dual core cpu's?
>
>
>"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message news:4456d573@linux...
>> Did you install the FX Subsystem?
>>
>> "cr8250" <jwires@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:4456c7d3$1@linux...
>> > We are having all kinds of problems getting Paris 3.0 to work with XP
>Pro.
>> > Originally we started using a Abit An8 with an nForce 4 chipset, AMD
>> Athlon
>> > 64 X2 3800+, 2 GB ram, several hard drives and XP Pro. We use 1 Mec
and
>2
>> > EDS 1000 cards, also a Matrox P650 dualhead pci-e video card. We
>followed
>> > the installations tips for XP beta drivers, but no luck. Thinking maybe
>> > Paris didn't like the new chipset, we switched m/b to a Asus A8V-E with
>a
>> > Via chipset, still no go. Why is it, some people seem to get it working
>> > with no troubles, and others can't seem to ever get it working? Also,
>> what
>> > should be seen in XP's device manager? The only things we see are a
>> Ensoniq
>> > MIDI driver. Is this indicative of a conflict? The error message we
>get
>> is
>> > Error 1/1: Can't initialize engine. They work just fine on the older
>pc
>> > with Windows 98se. Unlike in 98se, XP doesn't show any Ensoniq EDS1000
>> > cards in Device Manager, only the Paris Midi Driver. It doesn't even
>> > recognize that a new device is installed, once the EDS cards are put
in.
>> > Other cards such as mdoem, network card, etc. are recognized. Need
>help.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris and XP Woes.... [message #67531 is a reply to message #67509] Tue, 02 May 2006 08:21 Go to previous message
Mark McDermott is currently offline  Mark McDermott   
Messages: 204
Registered: February 2006
Location: Portland, OR
Senior Member
Sorry to hear about your trouble!

I installed a one-card w/MEC + 3.0 on XP Pro a couple of weeks ago. The MB
is an ECS (garden variety cheapo on sale at Fry's) with a 2.66GHz P4 (non-Hyperthreading
CPU) and a gig of Corsair
memory.

First, verify that Hyperthreading is disabled in your BIOS (if you're using
a CPU that supports it).

I had to install the drivers a couple of times as the EDS did not show up
in Device Manager. Remove all PARIS drivers, shut down, remove the EDS, then
restart. Follow the instructions for PARIS XP installation exactly. After
you reinstall the EDS, XP should find new hardware and install the EDS driver.
If this doesn't happen, it is likely that you have a hardware conflict.

Another thing to try is to move the EDS to a different PCI slot as an IRQ
conflict may be the issue. If that doesn't work and XP still doesn't detect
the EDS, I would swap out the Matrox card for another card (mine's an ATI
9250 8x AGP) to see if that's the source of the problem.

After reading about Deej's troubles with Matrox I didn't even consider their
products for this machine.

Hope this helps!

Mark

"cr8250" <jwires@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>We are having all kinds of problems getting Paris 3.0 to work with XP Pro.
>Originally we started using a Abit An8 with an nForce 4 chipset, AMD Athlon
>64 X2 3800+, 2 GB ram, several hard drives and XP Pro. We use 1 Mec and
2
>EDS 1000 cards, also a Matrox P650 dualhead pci-e video card. We followed
>the installations tips for XP beta drivers, but no luck. Thinking maybe
>Paris didn't like the new chipset, we switched m/b to a Asus A8V-E with
a
>Via chipset, still no go. Why is it, some people seem to get it working
>with no troubles, and others can't seem to ever get it working? Also, what
>should be seen in XP's device manager? The only things we see are a Ensoniq
>MIDI driver. Is this indicative of a conflict? The error message we get
is
>Error 1/1: Can't initialize engine. They work just fine on the older pc
>with Windows 98se. Unlike in 98se, XP doesn't show any Ensoniq EDS1000
>cards in Device Manager, only the Paris Midi Driver. It doesn't even
>recognize that a new device is installed, once the EDS cards are put in.
>Other cards such as mdoem, network card, etc. are recognized. Need help.
>
>
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