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Paris EDS card in a Antec Sonata Case [message #61198] Mon, 12 December 2005 04:01 Go to next message
Ed is currently offline  Ed
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agma boxes work well
>with the EDS card. At $1400 a pop, it's had to justify. Oh well... time
>to rethink things.... thanks...
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>Ahh, Deja Vu.
>>Yep, I too bought the Sonata, and it ended up being the case for
>>my Cubase box.
>>I toyed with the idea of ripping out the lower drive bays, so I could fit
>>my EDS's (4 of them), but in the end it was all too hard.
>>Rip out the power supply and stick it in your existing box.
>>(Antec supplies are quiet.) I doubt whether you'd notice the noise difference.
>>With one EDS card, I'm sure heat build-up won't be an issue,
>>so don't even worry about the 5 1/4" case fan.
>>Good Luck.
>>Kim
>>
>>
>>"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hey all. I little while back my paris computer failed. I bought a new
motherboard,
>>>CPU and memory (Pent 4). After getting all back together, I noticed that
>>>my computer was louder! So I researched and read some good reviews on
teh
>>>Antec Sonata. I bought one and anxiously transferred everything to the
>new
>>>case. Got to the last component, the Paris EDS card and guess what? Yep,
>>>it don't fit. Sheesh! There is an open area on the case's bottom slot
>>to
>>>allow the card, but my motherboard (Epox) is a small factor and only has
>>>3 PCI slots and it don't go down that far.
>>>
>>>Now I really love this case. It IS very quiet and I like how components
>>are
>>>installed easily. Internal drives are installed with rubber washers, etc.
>>
Re: Paris EDS card in a Antec Sonata Case [message #61199 is a reply to message #61198] Mon, 12 December 2005 05:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W is currently offline  Kim W
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;> So I want to definately keep this case... especially since I paid almost
>>>a hundred for it!
>>>
>>>My options: As most of you know there are a few external PCI boxes that
>>>allow using PCI cards. But they are so expensive. I scratch my head why
>>>they would charge double the cost of a bare bones computer for this...
>
>>Anyway,
>>>perhaps I found another alternative. As I stated, the EDS card would
fit
>>>in the bottom case lot, but wouldn't go into a motherboard PCI slot.
I
>>found
>>>a company that sells PCI extenders. I wrote to them and STILL waiting
>for
>>>their reply, but is anyone familiar with these products?
>>>
>>> http://www.risercardshop.com/items~CartId~%7B35EED1B9-E142-4 35C-8CFB-B4EVEREST819EF82CC5%7D~Cc~PCI32~iTpStatus~0~Tp~~Bc~ .asp
>>>
>>>I want to mount the EDS card in my case's bottom slot and perhaps use
one
>>>of these items to extend from the motherboard. Will this work or has
anyone
>>>tried this? I believe I need a certain voltage too. Anyone know what
>voltage
>>>the EDS card is? Or has anyone found an alternative to the PCI external?
>>> Thanks... ~ Ed
>>>
>>
>Wow, what an important feature to be broken
So I guess the files just pile up and eat up tons of drive space unless
you go through every object and delete files manually that don't have an
object. bummer

Aaron Allen wrote:
> It is broken in 3.00... every version that included that feature leading up
> to that point works fine.
> AA
>
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:439c2b61@linux...
>
>>My notes also show that Compacting is broken. Is that accurate?
>>
>>How to delete files on hard drive that are NOT used in the project. No
>>objects exit on the playing field and no segments exist in the audio
>>window but when I pick Select Unused Files from the Audio window nothing
>>is selected.
>>
>>I recorded a bunch of tracks in constrained mode and then removed the
>>objects from the playing field and their segments from the Audio window so
>>that only the filename was left. So, is there a way to get Paris to clean
Re: Paris EDS card in a Antec Sonata Case [message #61200 is a reply to message #61199] Mon, 12 December 2005 05:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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/> >>up unused items? Am I missing something?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>John
>
>
>Hi DJ,

I've noticed that TV and movies have generally gotten more violent since
9/11. I guess it's to be expected.

Hopefully, things will revert eventually.

All the best,

Mike

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Letsee.....over the last couple of days, while channel surfing, I've run
>across Dawn Of The Dead, Night Of The Living Dead, Day Of The Dead, Shawn
Of
>The Dead and a very bizarre and disturbing flick called Resident Evil.
>
>Is it just me or does this seem like some pretty bizarre and arguably
>inappropriate programming for the holiday season?........then again....at
>least I'm not watching the 400754th rerun of It's a wonderful Life.....yet.
>
>Maybe I'm just old and out of touch.
>
>;oP
>
>Too quiet, I can't hear them. Sorry

Morgan wrote:
> Greetings ,
>
> Since no one has successfuly put the mics in order
> so far .
> Listen to the files and guess which one is the
> Holy grail of mics - the U47 :)
>
> http://www.mercysakes.com/paris/Morgan%20Pettinato/Mic%20Con test/
>
> Good Luck - Prizes will still stand !
> info on my previous post ( Listening challenge @ the File vault )
>
> Morgan
>Before archiving a project onto data DVD, I use the "select un-used" in the
drop down menu of the audio window, then delete. Only prob I've had with
this is when I burned max amount of data (4.5 gig I think) on the dvd, I got
a read error, data corruption along the outer edges of the disk. I now only
burn 4 gigs max onto each disks and no prob since.

Good Luck
Rob_A

"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:439d7003@linux...
> Wow, what an important feature to be broken
> So I guess the files just pile up and eat up tons of drive space unless
> you go through every object and delete files manually that don't have an
> object. bummer
>
> Aaron Allen wrote:
>> It is broken in 3.00... every version that included that feature leading
>> up to that point works fine.
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:439c2b61@linux...
>>
>>>My notes also show that Compacting is broken. Is that accurate?
>>>
>>>How to delete files on hard drive that are NOT used in the project. No
>>>objects exit on the playing field and no segments exist in the audio
>>>window but when I pick Select Unused Files from the Audio window nothing
>>>is selected.
>>>
>>>I recorded a bunch of tracks in constrained mode and then removed the
>>>objects from the playing field and their segments from the Audio window
>>>so that only the filename was left. So, is there a way to get Paris to
>>>clean up unused items? Am I missing something?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>John
>>
>>Yeah, we need more Clint Eastwood movies. Good point !

DJ wrote:
> Letsee.....over the last couple of days, while channel surfing, I've run
> across Dawn Of The Dead, Night Of The Living Dead, Da
Re: Paris EDS card in a Antec Sonata Case [message #61201 is a reply to message #61200] Mon, 12 December 2005 05:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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y Of The Dead, Shawn Of
> The Dead and a very bizarre and disturbing flick called Resident Evil.
>
> Is it just me or does this seem like some pretty bizarre and arguably
> inappropriate programming for the holiday season?........then again....at
> least I'm not watching the 400754th rerun of It's a wonderful Life.....yet.
>
> Maybe I'm just old and out of touch.
>
> ;oP
>
>Select Unused only works for me sometimes. I can have a completely
blank playing field and select unused doesn't select any files often.
Have you ever seen that?

John

Rob Arsenault wrote:
> Before archiving a project onto data DVD, I use the "select un-used" in the
> drop down menu of the audio window, then delete. Only prob I've had with
> this is when I burned max amount of data (4.5 gig I think) on the dvd, I got
> a read error, data corruption along the outer edges of the disk. I now only
> burn 4 gigs max onto each disks and no prob since.
>
> Good Luck
> Rob_A
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:439d7003@linux...
>
>>Wow, what an important feature to be broken
>>So I guess the files just pile up and eat up tons of drive space unless
>>you go through every object and delete files manually that don't have an
>>object. bummer
>>
>>Aaron Allen wrote:
>>
>>>It is broken in 3.00... every version that included that feature leading
>>>up to that point works fine.
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:439c2b61@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>My notes also show that Compacting is broken. Is that accurate?
>>>>
>>>>How to delete files on hard drive that are NOT used in the project. No
>>>>objects exit on the playing field and no segments exist in the audio
>>>>window but when I pick Select Unused Files from the Audio window nothing
>>>>is selected.
>>>>
>>>>I recorded a bunch of tracks in constrained mode and then removed the
>>>>objects from the playing field and their segments from the Audio window
>>>>so that only the filename was left. So, is there a way to get Paris to
>>>>clean up unused items? Am I missing something?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>John
>>>
>>>
>John,

Check to see if those files are in the jails.
They don't show up as unused when they're in a jail.

-Paul


John <no@no.com> wrote:
>Select Unused only works for me sometimes. I can have a completely
>blank playing field and select unused doesn't select any files often.
>Have you ever seen that?
>
>John
>
>Rob Arsenault wrote:
>> Before archiving a project onto data DVD, I use the "select un-used" in
the
>> drop down menu of the audio window, then delete. Only prob I've had with

>> this is when I burned max amount of data (4.5 gig I think) on the dvd,
I got
>> a read error, data corruption along the outer edges of the disk. I now
only
>> burn 4 gigs max onto each disks and no prob since.
>>
>> Good Luck
>> Rob_A
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:439d7003@linux...
>>
>>>Wow, what an important feature to be broken
>>>So I guess the files just pile up and eat up tons of drive space unless

>>>you go through every object and delete files manually that don't have
an
>>>object. bummer
>>>
>>>Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>
>>>>It is broken in 3.00... every version that included that feature leading

>>>>up to that point works fine.
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"John" <no@
Re: Paris EDS card in a Antec Sonata Case [message #61209 is a reply to message #61200] Mon, 12 December 2005 06:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Miguel Vigil [1] is currently offline  Miguel Vigil [1]   UNITED STATES
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hing
> >>is selected.
> >>
> >>I recorded a bunch of tracks in constrained mode and then removed the
> >>objects from the playing field and their segments from the Audio window
so
> >>that only the filename was left. So, is there a way to get Paris to
clean
> >>up unused items? Am I missing something?
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>John
> >
> >
> >"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:439da1d6$1@linux...
> Periodically, here's what I do....
>
> A complete backup of the project to another drive in case I screw up the
> next steps.........
>
> Next, I choose a song and unlock all files in the Audio bin..
>
> Then I render all active submix audio files to a new folder in the project
> folder with names that are easily recognizable which puts the rendered
files
> at the top of the files shown in the Audio bin....naming the channels
> something likie AAkick, AAsnare, AAVox, etc. so that the renders show up
> with this at the top of the list of files in the audio bin and are easily
> recognizable for the next step. I also save my .ppj to this folder so I
> don't delete it.
>
> Next I back this folder up with the newly rendered audio files and the new
> .ppj.
>
> Open the Audio Window and lock these newly rendered files (they are easy
to
> find now because they are the topmost files in the audio bin)
>
> Close the Project I'm working on.
>
> Using *My Computer*, go into the project folder, highlight all *audio*
files
> exept the ones in the new folder I created with the new renders and
manually
> delete all of the unused files (this way they can still be recovered if I
> screw up......be sure not to delete your old .ppj's if you think you will
> need them....you can always import the newly rendered files into them if
you
> have settings there that you are experimenting with)
>
> Open the project back up and make sure all of my rendered files are still
> populating the editor window and the project plays back properly.
>
> Since all of the deleted file names will still be shown in the audio
window,
> I double check to make sure that all of my rendered files are locked
before
> I go to the next step........
>
> ............... in the Audio Window, I do a *select all* and highlight all
> files (since I unlocked all files in step 2 and locked the newly rendered
> files afterwards, at this point, all of the deleted files will be unlocked
> and all of the rendered files will be locked)
>
> Now I do a delete of all files. This permanently deletes all files in the
> project except the ones that are locked. Now I have only the newly
rendered
> files in the project. If I screw this up somehow by forgetting to lock a
> newly rendered file, I've got a back of the rendered files on another
dirve.
>
> Now I rename my channels and, if I want to, the audio files themselves.
>
> After doing this, I defrag my audio drive.
>
> Simple....huh?
>
.......o'yeah, before I defrag the audio drive, I empty the recycle bin.Greetings and Salutations Thad,

What's word thunderbird?



Regards,

El MIguel





"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:43987282$1@linux...
>
> . . with Steve Wozniak.
>
> http://inquirer.stanford.edu/2005/jstaffor/woz.html
>
> Definitely worth reading.
>
> TCBNext we'll be seeing George Romero doing remakes......... It's A Wonderful
Death and find ringers for James Stewart and Donna Reed to stagger around
zombielike biting off chunks of the townspeople........or do a remake of
Holiday Inn with the rotting corpse of Bing Crosby gurguling *Dead
Christmas* and Fred Astaire shuffling along trailing gore across the dance
floor.

Rudolph the dead nosed reindeer anyone?

<sheesh>

;oP

"Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:439d91b1$1@linux...
> Beware...
> Coming Soon,
>
> Dawn of the Living Santa
>
> The (d)red guy comes out of your chimney and threatens you with Paris
> updates!
>
>
>
> Fell Miguel (ho, ho, ho
Re: Paris EDS card in a Antec Sonata Case [message #61221 is a reply to message #61200] Mon, 12 December 2005 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I can hear machinery....




"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>http://theaudiocave.com/flex1.wmv
>
>I understand that the Seqouia people recommend it very highly.

DC


jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>anyone using the Lynx Aurora interface?I got an e-mail the other day from a gentleman who was using the following:

Mobo: DFI nF4 SLI-DR
Processor: AMD X2 3800+ (under max capacity, cool and cruisin' at 2.4 ghz,
1200 FSB, 400 DDR4)
Ram: 4 Gig Kingston (1gig sticks)
Drives: Maxtor Maxline III SATA 2 drives in a RAID 5 config
Graphic Card: HIS X800 GTO SLI graphic card
Case: Silverstone HTPC LC14M
Sound Card: Lynx AES16 SRC (less than 0.72 msec In/Out latency at
44.1kHz -32k buffer)

0.72 ms latency is about 1/2 the latenty we can achieve with Paris and he is
reporting high tyrack/VSTi counts in Nuendo. sounds to me like this mobo is
a serious performer, though I don't know how it would behave with UAD cards.
I always liked the Lynx audio cards. The only reason I went with RME waqs
because the HDSP syncs reliably to Paris and I don't track to a native DAW.



Lynx with the
"DC" <dc@spamyermama.com> wrote in message news:439de16a$1@linux...
>
> I understand that the Seqouia people recommend it very highly.
>
> DC
>
>
> jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
> >anyone using the Lynx Aurora interface?
>Hmm, well, this sounds like a PITA for sure,
How do you deal with this issue when using higher gain mic pres?


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>You will need to feed them a tone that can be adjusted from the device
>wsending the tone so that you can calibrate the Paris channel level to the
>dB level that is feeding the Paris A/D converter. If you are feeding the
>converter a -10dBu signal you can then adjust the trim screw until the level
>reads -10 on the channel meter. There may be a little fudging going on with
>the software in favor of keeping the signal around 2-3dB below *actual*
>decibel input....but I wouldn't know this for sure. IU would suggest feeding
>it a constant test tone from an external device.
>
>Deej
>
>"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>news:439dd812$1@linux...
>>
>> Thanks DJ.
>> Oh, I have a tone CD that is for ear training but the tones are fairly
>brief,
>> think this would work?
>>
>> So wiht a tone it is safe to adjust them? is there anything wrong such
as
>> sound degredation with turning em down otherwise? I'd ratehr not have
to
>> always go into a compresor to turn the gain down. I also want to be able
>> to push the pres a bit more.
>>
>> Again, thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >Don't touch them. They are continuously rotating. You cannot just turn
>them
>> >to a stopping point and thne back them off a certain amount. You will
>need
>> >to feed them a test tone.
>> >
>> >"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>> >news:439dbc74$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I am finding that with my BAE and OSA pres the sigal is way too hot
>into
>> >> Paris.
>> >> What is the best wey to set the inputs in the 8 in? is there a problem
>> >with
>> >> just tuning em way down? Are they detended? I dontl want to touch em
ti
>> >find
>> >> out.
>> >> Should I run a tone trough em and even em all out?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >> C
>> >
>> >
>
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Re: Paris EDS card in a Antec Sonata Case [message #61241 is a reply to message #61221] Mon, 12 December 2005 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> >my Cubase box.
>>> >I toyed with the idea of ripping out the lower drive bays, so I could
>fit
>>> >my EDS's (4 of them), but in the end it was all too hard.
>>> >Rip out the power supply and stick it in your existing box.
>>> >(Antec supplies are quiet.) I doubt whether you'd notice the noise
>>difference.
>>> >With one EDS card, I'm sure heat build-up won't be an issue,
>>> >so don't even worry about the 5 1/4" case fan.
>>> >Good Luck.
>>> >Kim
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>Hey all. I little while back my paris computer failed. I bought a new
>>motherboard,
>>> >>CPU and memory (Pent 4). After getting all back together, I noticed
>that
>>> >>my computer was louder! So I researched and read some good reviews
on
>>teh
>>> >>Antec Sonata. I bought one and anxiously transferred everything to
the
>>> new
>>> >>case. Got to the last component, the Paris EDS card and guess what?
>Yep,
>>> >>it don't fit. Sheesh! There is an open area on the case's bottom
slot
>>> >to
>>> >>allow the card, but my motherboard (Epox) is a small factor and only
>has
>>> >>3 PCI slots and it don't go down that far.
>>> >>
>>> >>Now I really love this case. It IS very quiet and I like how components
>>> >are
>>> >>installed easily. Internal drives are installed with rubber washers,
>>etc.
>>> >> So I want to definately keep this case... especially since I paid
>>almost
>>> >>a hundred for it!
>>> >>
>>> >>My options: As most of you know there are a few external PCI boxes
>that
>>> >>allow using PCI cards. But they are so expensive. I scratch my head
>why
>>> >>they would charge double the cost of a bare bones computer for this...
>>>
>>> >Anyway,
>>> >>perhaps I found another alternative. As I stated, the EDS card would
>>fit
>>> >>in the bottom case lot, but wouldn't go into a motherboard PCI slot.
> I
>>> >found
>>> >>a company that sells PCI extenders. I wrote to them and STILL waiting
>>> for
>>> >>their reply, but is anyone familiar with these products?
>>> >>
>>>
>>>> http://www.risercardshop.com/items~CartId~%7B35EED1B9-E142-4 35C-8CFB-B4EVE
>>REST819EF82CC5%7D~Cc~PCI32~iTpStatus~0~Tp~~Bc~.asp
>>> >>
>>> >>I want to mount the EDS card in my case's bottom slot and perhaps use
>>one
>>> >>of these items to extend from the motherboard. Will this work or has
>>anyone
>>> >>tried this? I believe I need a certain voltage too. Anyone know what
>>> voltage
>>> >>the EDS card is? Or has anyone found an alternative to the PCI
>>external?
>>> >> Thanks... ~ Ed
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>After looking at the pictures on this page, it appears that you could have
all your HDs and your full size PCI slots at the same time.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article272-page5.html

Sorry for all the posts!

James


"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Here are some great pictures of the P150 case and all kinds of info, check
>it out.
>
>http://www.silentpcreview.com/article272-page1.html
>
>Here is the page with the hard drive mounts, it's kind of like a shock mount
>for a microphone. This will give all of us some ideas. As you can see,
>it looks like you could put full size PCI cards in the case with out modification,
>but you might lose some hard drive spaces??? I guess you could modify the
>case to your needs.
>
>http://www.silentpcreview.com/article272-page4.html
>
>Looks like my next case.
>
>James
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>The Antec P160 case is quiet like the Sonata case, but it will take full
>size
>>PCI cards. I think the P 180 and maybe the P150 will also take full size
>>PCI cards. Check them out and do a little research.
>>
>>http://www.antec.com/us/pro_en_performance1.html
>>
>>www.antec.com
>>
>>James
>>
>>
>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>> I searched through here and I see DJ stated that the Magma boxes work
>>>well
>>>> with the EDS card. At $1400 a pop, it's had to justify. Oh well...
>time
>>>> to rethink things.... thanks...
>>>
Re: Paris EDS card in a Antec Sonata Case [message #61242 is a reply to message #61241] Mon, 12 December 2005 20:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>>>You can find Magma chassis' used for much less than this. the best place
>>to
>>>fish around for one is on the digidesign User's forum in the For Sale
area.
>>>Those poor guys have to upgrade their hardware every 10 minutes or so
and
>>>quite often they sell their 32 bit Magma's cheap. I got my 13 slot Magma
>>>there for $250.00.
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>
>>>"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote in message news:439d6a33@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Hi Kim. You probably don't remember me too well, but I been around on
>>here
>>>> for a number of years. Mostly lurking and had various usernames... anyway,
>>>> my question was mainly about the products from risercardshop.com. I
>was
>>>> hoping someone was familiar with their products. Yes, I am only using
>>one
>>>> EDS card. My last resource is to either pay the ridiculous price for
>an
>>>external
>>>> PCI box or buy a hand tool metal cutter and cut out a hole for the one
>>>card.
>>>> Since you are familiar with the case, and you agree that tearing out
>>>internal
>>>> drive bay would be difficult, I think the better option would be to
cut
>>a
>>>> hole for the EDS card. I suppose no one found a cheaper external PCI
>>box.
>>>> I searched through here and I see DJ stated that the Magma boxes work
>>>well
>>>> with the EDS card. At $1400 a pop, it's had to justify. Oh well...
>time
>>>> to rethink things.... thanks...
>>>>
>>>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >Ahh, Deja Vu.
>>>> >Yep, I too bought the Sonata, and it ended up being the case for
>>>> >my Cubase box.
>>>> >I toyed with the idea of ripping out the lower drive bays, so I could
>>fit
>>>> >my EDS's (4 of them), but in the end it was all too hard.
>>>> >Rip out the power supply and stick it in your existing box.
>>>> >(Antec supplies are quiet.) I doubt whether you'd notice the noise
>>>difference.
>>>> >With one EDS card, I'm sure heat build-up won't be an issue,
>>>> >so don't even worry about the 5 1/4" case fan.
>>>> >Good Luck.
>>>> >Kim
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Hey all. I little while back my paris computer failed. I bought a
new
>>>motherboard,
>>>> >>CPU and memory (Pent 4). After getting all back together, I noticed
>>that
>>>> >>my computer was louder! So I researched and read some good reviews
>on
>>>teh
>>>> >>Antec Sonata. I bought one and anxiously transferred everything to
>the
>>>> new
>>>> >>case. Got to the last component, the Paris EDS card and guess what?
>>Yep,
>>>> >>it don't fit. Sheesh! There is an open area on the case's bottom
>slot
>>>> >to
>>>> >>allow the card, but my motherboard (Epox) is a small factor and only
>>has
>>>> >>3 PCI slots and it don't go down that far.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Now I really love this case. It IS very quiet and I like how components
>>>> >are
>>>> >>installed easily. Internal drives are installed with rubber washers,
>>>etc.
>>>> >> So I want to definately keep this case... especially since I paid
>>>almost
>>>> >>a hundred for it!
>>>> >>
>>>> >>My options: As most of you know there are a few external PCI boxes
>>that
>>>> >>allow using PCI cards. But they are so expensive. I scratch my head
>>why
>>>> >>they would charge double the cost of a bare bones computer for this...
>>>>
>>>> >Anyway,
>>>> >>perhaps I found another alternative. As I stated, the EDS card would
>>>fit
>>>> >>in the bottom case lot, but wouldn't go into a motherboard PCI slot.
>> I
>>>> >found
>>>> >>a company that sells PCI extenders. I wrote to them and STILL waiting
>>>> for
>>>> >>their reply, but is anyone familiar with these products?
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.risercardshop.com/items~CartId~%7B35EED1B9-E142-4 35C-8CFB-B4EVE
>>>REST819EF82CC5%7D~Cc~PCI32~iTpStatus~0~Tp~~Bc~.asp
>>>> >>
>>>> >>I want to mount the EDS card in my case's bottom slot and perhaps
use
>>>one
>>>> >>of these items to extend from the motherboard. Will this work or
has
>>>anyone
>>>> >>tried this? I believe I need a certain voltage too. Anyone know
what
>>>> voltage
>>>> >>the EDS card is? Or has anyone found an alternative to the PCI
>>>external?
>>>> >> Thanks... ~ Ed
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>the u47a is mic #2.

obvious really.

i don't know the others well enough to comment.

so what do i win??

Jeremy


"Morgan" <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in message news:439cc82c$1@linux...
> Hi Bill,
> I'll post the order Monday Morning :)
>
> So Far - No one has been able to pick the right order -
>
> I'll make it easy -
>
> The U47 is considered to be the Holy Grail
>
> Just Pick the U47a - and the Prize is yours !!
>
> Morgan
>
>
> Bill Lorentzen wrote:
> > So how do we find out which is which?
> >
> > Bill L
> >
> > "Morgan" <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in message news:43997c34$1@linux...
> >
> >>Greetings,
> >>
> >>Tony Benson has been kind enough to offer his web-site
> >>for hosting some cool PARIS and Audio files etc...
>
Re: Paris EDS card in a Antec Sonata Case [message #61243 is a reply to message #61242] Mon, 12 December 2005 20:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>>
> >>As many of you know - I am always looking for cool and Unique
> >>sounding products that are in the Spirit of this PARIS Community.
> >>
> >>I believe the SE Mic company has some really Great Mics that deserve
> >>a listen.
> >>http://www.seelectronics.com/whatsnew.html
> >>
> >>
> >>Tony will post some MP3 and Wav files that were Recorded By
> >>Roger Nichols for NARAS
> >>( National Academy of Recording Arts and Science )
> >>http://www.rogernichols.com/
> >>
> >>Here is the Challenge - there are 5 mics in the Shoot out:
> >>TELEFUNKEN U47
> >>SOUNDELUX U95 (AKG C12)
> >>SE GEMINI
> >>SE 5600A
> >>SE ICIS
> >>
> >>These are all Tube Mics - The Telefunken and Soundelux
> >>cost Thousands $$$ More !!
> >>
> >>Listen to the Samples - then Properly identify the Mics in order.
> >>
> >> http://www.mercysakes.com/paris/Morgan%20Pettinato/Mic%20Con test/
> >>
> >>You can open any audio app and imort the wave file in order -
> >>or listen to the NUENDO Mp3 file ( Last one in directory )
> >>
> >>Anyone that can Properly identify these Mics will Win -
> >>
> >>SE Microphone Deluxe Windscreen $ 59 Value
> >>http://www.seelectronics.com/popscreen.html
> >>Planet Waves Mic Cable $69 Value
> >>http://www.planet-waves.com/Pcablesdetails.aspx?ID=2
> >>
> >>Files are posted @
> >>www.mercysakes.com
> >>
> >>Good Luck !!
> >>
> >>
> >>Please send your entry to:
> >>Morgan@Eastcoastmusicmall.com
> >>
> >>Any questions - Call or Email me
> >>
> >>Morgan
> >>Eastcoast Music Mall
> >>800-901-2001
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>If you have CooleEditPro or Adobe Audition(or something similar program that
can do the job), you can make your own playback testtones at exactly the
volume you want to test with. From older days, to trim tape-recorders, we
used testtapes. They had sinus testtones at 1000 and 10,000 hrtz to make the
playback-heads correct. at 0 and -10db. When the playback-heads was correct
we used a sinus-tone generator to trim the recording head at 1000 and 10,000
hrtz, to show the correct playback volume in both frequences.
So here you are; you need a kind of sinustone generator to do the job. Be
sure the channel faders in Paris are staying at 0db. Import a 440 or 1000
hertz sinus-file you know are staying at 0db into Paris(made by a program as
CoolEdit etc.), just to control that Paris is showing the correct 0db
playback-volume(it will, but just to be sure). Then use a sinustone
generator with exactly the same hrtz as used as playback to record with and
use the recording trimpots to get 0db on each of the channels. So, I think
that will do the job perfect for you.

Erling
..
"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> skrev i melding
news:439dbc74$1@linux...
>
>
> I am finding that with my BAE and OSA pres the sigal is way too hot into
> Paris.
> What is the best wey to set the inputs in the 8 in? is there a problem
> with
> just tuning em way down? Are they detended? I dontl want to touch em ti
> find
> out.
> Should I run a tone trough em and even em all out?
>
> Thanks.
> CThanks all for responding about this issue. And yes, it has been an issue
for sometime, but with little indepth coverage (of what I recall). Of course,
I never had a problem till I purchased this new case. Prior to this new case
I was in a 4U rack case which had lots of room to spare. Besides the front
and rear fans, it had four internal fans hanging inside.. so it stayed chilly..
but it got noisy when I upgraded to the Pent 4. plus it was a beach to remove
from the rack each time I wanted to do something different inside the case...

I'll do more shopping around and I will check out the digi BBS, once I find
it. I recently seen a 7 card Magma (just the case) on ebay and the bid was
around 200. When it closed, it was over 300. I didn't want to spend that
much for an incomplete system.

Again, thanks alot for everyone's help and advice.... ~ Ed


"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>After looking at the pictures on this page, it appears that you could have
>all your HDs and your full size PCI slots at the same time.
>
>http://www.silentpcreview.com/article272-page5.html
>
>Sorry for all the posts!
>
>James
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Here are some great pictures of the P150 case and all kinds of info, check
>>it out.
>>
>>http://www.silentpcreview.com/article272-page1.html
>>
>>Here is the page with the hard drive mounts, it's kind of like a shock
mount
>>for a microphone. This will give all of us some ideas. As you can see,
>>it looks like you could put full size PCI cards in the case with out modification,
>>but you might lose some hard drive spaces??? I guess you could modify
the
>>case to your needs.
>>
>>http://www.silentpcreview.com/article272-page4.html
>>
>>Looks like my next case.
>>
>>James
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>The Antec P160 case is quiet like the Sonata case, but it will take full
>>size
>>>PCI cards. I think the P 180 and maybe the P150 will also take full size
>>>PCI cards. Check them out and do a little research.
>>>
>>>http://www.antec.com/us/pro_en_performance1.html
>>>
>>>www.antec.com
>>>
>>>James
>>>
>>>
>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>> I searched through here and I see DJ stated that the Magma boxes work
>>>>well
>>>>> with the EDS card. At $1400 a pop, it's had to justify. Oh well...
>>time
>>>>> to rethink things.... thanks...
>>>>
>>>>You can find Magma chassis' used for much less than this. the best place
>>>to
>>>>fish around for one is on the digidesign User's forum in the For Sale
>area.
>>>>Those poor guys have to upgrade their hardware every 10 minutes or so
>and
>>>>quite often they sell their 32 bit Magma's cheap. I got my 13 slot Magma
>>>>there for $250.00.
>>>>
>>>>Deej
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Ed" <askme
Re: Paris EDS card in a Antec Sonata Case [message #61246 is a reply to message #61243] Tue, 13 December 2005 05:07 Go to previous message
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t;tried this? I believe I need a certain voltage too. Anyone know
>what
>>>>> voltage
>>>>> >>the EDS card is? Or has anyone found an alternative to the PCI
>>>>external?
>>>>> >> Thanks... ~ Ed
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Hi All

Just thought you might like to know that the PSW - Marsh - CaPE III is now
online.

Thirteen teams from around the globe thrown together to write, record, mix
and master a song of their own...all in three months.

Some outstanding work and something for everyone.

http://marsh.prosoundweb.com/index.php?t=thread&SQ=4d895 ef68776c347b4c4e75df08fdc64&forum_redr=1&frm_id=8&am p;frm_goto=Go

Enjoy

DonAnyone comment on a VISTi setup to sync to Paris - best and good?I'll give it a go,
but I am curious that no one else has had this issue.

Am I the only one with 500 series pres that are so hot? Or it could be this
8 in was set wrong in the first place.

"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote:
>If you have CooleEditPro or Adobe Audition(or something similar program
that
>can do the job), you can make your own playback testtones at exactly the

>volume you want to test with. From older days, to trim tape-recorders, we

>used testtapes. They had sinus testtones at 1000 and 10,000 hrtz to make
the
>playback-heads correct. at 0 and -10db. When the playback-heads was correct

>we used a sinus-tone generator to trim the recording head at 1000 and 10,000

>hrtz, to show the correct playback volume in both frequences.
>So here you are; you need a kind of sinustone generator to do the job. Be

>sure the channel faders in Paris are staying at 0db. Import a 440 or 1000

>hertz sinus-file you know are staying at 0db into Paris(made by a program
as
>CoolEdit etc.), just to control that Paris is showing the correct 0db
>playback-volume(it will, but just to be sure). Then use a sinustone
>generator with exactly the same hrtz as used as playback to record with
and
>use the recording trimpots to get 0db on each of the channels. So, I think

>that will do the job perfect for you.
>
>Erling
>.
>"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> skrev i melding
>news:439dbc74$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> I am finding that with my BAE and OSA pres the sigal is way too hot into
>> Paris.
>> What is the best wey to set the inputs in the 8 in? is there a problem

>> with
>> just tuning em way down? Are they detended? I dontl want to touch em ti

>> find
>> out.
>> Should I run a tone trough em and even em all out?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> C
>
>Thanks guys. I'm considering the lynx to replace a delta 1010. I have a
lynx 1 in my paris rig....can't seem to make the paris asio to work
with wavelab.

DJ wrote:

>I got an e-mail the other day from a gentleman who was using the following:
>
>Mobo: DFI nF4 SLI-DR
>Processor: AMD X2 3800+ (under max capacity, cool and cruisin' at 2.4 ghz,
>1200 FSB, 400 DDR4)
>Ram: 4 Gig Kingston (1gig sticks)
>Drives: Maxtor Maxline III SATA 2 drives in a RAID 5 config
>Graphic Card: HIS X800 GTO SLI graphic card
>Case: Silverstone HTPC LC14M
>Sound Card: Lynx AES16 SRC (less than 0.72 msec In/Out latency at
>44.1kHz -32k buffer)
>
>0.72 ms latency is about 1/2 the latenty we can achieve with Paris and he is
>reporting high tyrack/VSTi counts in Nuendo. sounds to me like this mobo is
>a serious performer, though I don't know how it would behave with UAD cards.
>I always liked the Lynx audio cards. The only reason I went with RME waqs
>because the HDSP syncs reliably to Paris and I don't track to a native DAW.
>
>
>
>Lynx with the
>"DC" <dc@spamyermama.com> wrote in message news:439de16a$1@linux...
>
>
>>I understand that the Seqouia people recommend it very highly.
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>>jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>anyone using the Lynx Aurora interface?
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>I can make the inputs clip with any pre... I just choose not to. ;-)

Also, make sure you are connecting to the cards fully balanced and the
I/O levels are set to +4 in the patchbay.

David.

cujo wrote:

> I'll give it a go,
> but I am curious that no one else has had this issue.
>
> Am I the only one with 500 series pres that are so hot? Or it could be this
> 8 in was set wrong in the first place.
>
> "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote:
>
>>If you have CooleEditPro or Adobe Audition(or something similar program
>
> that
>
>>can do the job), you can make your own playback testtones at exactly the
>
>
>>volume you want to test with. From older days, to trim tape-recorders, we
>
>
>>used testtapes. They had sinus testtones at 1000 and 10,000 hrtz to make
>
> the
>
>>playback-heads correct. at 0 and -10db. When the playback-heads was correct
>
>
>>we used a sinus-tone generator to trim the recording head at 1000 and 10,000
>
>
>>hrtz, to show the correct playback volume in both frequences.
>>So here you are; you need a kind of sinustone generator to do the job. Be
>
>
>>sure the channel faders in Paris are staying at 0db. Import a 440 or 1000
>
>
>>hertz sinus-file you know are staying at 0db into Paris(made by a program
>
> as
>
>>CoolEdit etc.), just to control that Paris is showing the correct 0db
>>playback-volume(it will, but just to be sure). Then use a sinustone
>>generator with exactly the same hrtz as used as playback to record with
>
> and
>
>>use the recording trimpots to get 0db on each of the channels. So, I think
>
>
>>that will do the job perfect for you.
>>
>>Erling
>>.
>>"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> skrev i melding
>>news:439dbc74$1@linux...
>>
>>>
>>>I am finding that with my BAE and OSA pres the sigal is way too hot into
>>>Paris.
>>>What is the best wey to set the inputs in the 8 in? is there a problem
>
>
>>>with
>>>just tuning em way down? Are they detended? I dontl want to touch em ti
>
>
>>>find
>>>out.
>>>Should I run a tone trough em and even em all out?
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>C
>>
>>"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>What is the best wey to set the inputs in the 8 in?

I used an audio toolbox to send a test tone to one of the MEC's 20 bit ins,
and found the level where they overloaded. I then set the level of the adjustable
8-ins to that same level."DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>http://theaudiocave.com/flex1.wmv
>
I think I'm getting old. When I was younger, I would have found this alluring.
Now it just seems creepy (and a little alluring :)So I've got a project with full band,4 takes one after the
other in the editor window.I want to get rid of the first 3 takes
and move the 4th take to the front so I can render starting at
the zero line to then export as wavs.
I've done odubs in one submix on the last take so I can't use
clear and close.
Whats the best way for me to get the tracks that are on
multiple submixes moved at the same time?

TIA,
PeteThe first thing I was doing when getting my first MEC in the last century,
with 2 in cards and 2 out cards, was to calibrate, since they have analog
in/outs that have to be calibrated to be correct. My experience with these
kind of stuff is, there's often some problems with correct values when
things like these are new.

Erling

"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> skrev i melding
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>
>
>
> I'll give it a go,
> but I am curious that no one else has had this issue.
>
> Am I the only one with 500 series pres that are so hot? Or it could be
> this
> 8 in was set wrong in the first place.
>
> "erlilo" <

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