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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103234 is a reply to message #103233] |
Sun, 26 April 2009 11:18   |
dnafe
Messages: 390
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Thanks Erling
Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
DirectX is disabled in Paris
FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD plugins no
problem.
Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or just install it
where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed into that folder
or do I just install it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in person
Don
"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f4a73e@linux...
> Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but I think I
> remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work in a good way. Don't
> use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion find Chainer and Chainer to
> find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then you can open Chainer in Paris VST/DX
> and use your VST plugins there, as far as I remember. I used my UAD card
> this way in Paris some years ago.
>
> Good luck
> Erling
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:49f478da@linux...
>> Need advice
>>
>> I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX plugs on my
>> Paris rig
>>
>> I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks, Sampleslide, FFX4
>> Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but something is wonky in my setup
>> and it's probably my fault but I need to get this sorted out soon. I
>> have since uninstalled everything except my UAD cards and am back to
>> square one.
>>
>> a blank canvass so to speak
>>
>> if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat would be great
>> and if you're up for it email me your phone # or Skype ID and I'll get
>> back to you pronto
>>
>>
>>
>> What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these goodies on my
>> computer?
>>
>> If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital) do I need the
>> Fxpansion wrapper
>>
>> If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing up.
>>
>> any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>
>> thanks in advance
>>
>> Don
>>
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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103236 is a reply to message #103234] |
Sun, 26 April 2009 12:32 |
Erling
Messages: 156
Registered: October 2008
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Don, are we talking about the same type of Chainer? FFX4 Chainer, isn't it
Vince Burel's VST to DX wrapper?
I'm talking about this Chainer: http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html in
combination with FXpansion 3.3.
Be sure there isn't any VST folder opened in Paris config file, it's just
the Chainer who shall know that folder. I believe DirectX shall be enabled.
You see FXpansion or FFX4 are making VST to DX, so I believe Paris should
have DirectX enabled so the wrappers can find Paris as a DX user.
I havn't used Faderworks but if it's a VSTplugin, I believe it shall be in
the VST folder so Chainer can find and use it the way you want.
Good luck
Erling
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:49f4ab69@linux...
> Thanks Erling
>
> Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
>
> DirectX is disabled in Paris
>
> FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD plugins no
> problem.
>
> Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or just install
> it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
>
> and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed into that
> folder or do I just install it where it want's to go and copy over the
> DLLs
>
>
> thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in person
>
> Don
>
>
>
>
> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f4a73e@linux...
>> Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but I think I
>> remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work in a good way. Don't
>> use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion find Chainer and Chainer to
>> find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then you can open Chainer in Paris VST/DX
>> and use your VST plugins there, as far as I remember. I used my UAD card
>> this way in Paris some years ago.
>>
>> Good luck
>> Erling
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>> news:49f478da@linux...
>>> Need advice
>>>
>>> I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX plugs on my
>>> Paris rig
>>>
>>> I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks, Sampleslide, FFX4
>>> Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but something is wonky in my setup
>>> and it's probably my fault but I need to get this sorted out soon. I
>>> have since uninstalled everything except my UAD cards and am back to
>>> square one.
>>>
>>> a blank canvass so to speak
>>>
>>> if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat would be
>>> great and if you're up for it email me your phone # or Skype ID and I'll
>>> get back to you pronto
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these goodies on my
>>> computer?
>>>
>>> If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital) do I need the
>>> Fxpansion wrapper
>>>
>>> If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing up.
>>>
>>> any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>>
>>> thanks in advance
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103237 is a reply to message #103236] |
Sun, 26 April 2009 13:03 |
JeffH
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
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THe way I remember it is a little different:
-Disable Directx
-Put your wrapper and Faderworks in the VST folder identified in the
paris.cfg file.
Fire up Paris. You should be able to see the wrapper and Fadersworks as
native plugs. Load any dx/other vst plugs you want in the wrapper. Set
your delays in Faderworks.
As I remember, TOm Bruhl is the one acutally utilizing this most (my rig
is put away right now), so you might ping him specifically.
JH
Erling wrote:
> Don, are we talking about the same type of Chainer? FFX4 Chainer, isn't it
> Vince Burel's VST to DX wrapper?
> I'm talking about this Chainer: http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html in
> combination with FXpansion 3.3.
> Be sure there isn't any VST folder opened in Paris config file, it's just
> the Chainer who shall know that folder. I believe DirectX shall be enabled.
> You see FXpansion or FFX4 are making VST to DX, so I believe Paris should
> have DirectX enabled so the wrappers can find Paris as a DX user.
> I havn't used Faderworks but if it's a VSTplugin, I believe it shall be in
> the VST folder so Chainer can find and use it the way you want.
>
> Good luck
> Erling
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:49f4ab69@linux...
>
>>Thanks Erling
>>
>>Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
>>
>>DirectX is disabled in Paris
>>
>>FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD plugins no
>>problem.
>>
>>Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or just install
>>it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
>>
>>and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed into that
>>folder or do I just install it where it want's to go and copy over the
>>DLLs
>>
>>
>>thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in person
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f4a73e@linux...
>>
>>>Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but I think I
>>>remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work in a good way. Don't
>>>use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion find Chainer and Chainer to
>>>find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then you can open Chainer in Paris VST/DX
>>>and use your VST plugins there, as far as I remember. I used my UAD card
>>>this way in Paris some years ago.
>>>
>>>Good luck
>>>Erling
>>>
>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>news:49f478da@linux...
>>>
>>>>Need advice
>>>>
>>>>I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX plugs on my
>>>>Paris rig
>>>>
>>>>I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks, Sampleslide, FFX4
>>>>Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but something is wonky in my setup
>>>>and it's probably my fault but I need to get this sorted out soon. I
>>>>have since uninstalled everything except my UAD cards and am back to
>>>>square one.
>>>>
>>>>a blank canvass so to speak
>>>>
>>>>if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat would be
>>>>great and if you're up for it email me your phone # or Skype ID and I'll
>>>>get back to you pronto
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these goodies on my
>>>>computer?
>>>>
>>>>If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital) do I need the
>>>>Fxpansion wrapper
>>>>
>>>>If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing up.
>>>>
>>>>any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>>>
>>>>thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>>Don
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103239 is a reply to message #103237] |
Sun, 26 April 2009 14:09 |
dnafe
Messages: 390
Registered: February 2009
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So far so good
UAD plugs in VST folder with FFX4 chainer and Faderworks - just pointed
Paris in that direction and so far all is looking good
next step Wave plugs
hehehe
wish me luck
"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message
news:49f4c405$1@linux...
> THe way I remember it is a little different:
>
> -Disable Directx
> -Put your wrapper and Faderworks in the VST folder identified in the
> paris.cfg file.
>
> Fire up Paris. You should be able to see the wrapper and Fadersworks as
> native plugs. Load any dx/other vst plugs you want in the wrapper. Set
> your delays in Faderworks.
>
> As I remember, TOm Bruhl is the one acutally utilizing this most (my rig
> is put away right now), so you might ping him specifically.
>
> JH
>
> Erling wrote:
>> Don, are we talking about the same type of Chainer? FFX4 Chainer, isn't
>> it Vince Burel's VST to DX wrapper?
>> I'm talking about this Chainer: http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html
>> in combination with FXpansion 3.3.
>> Be sure there isn't any VST folder opened in Paris config file, it's just
>> the Chainer who shall know that folder. I believe DirectX shall be
>> enabled. You see FXpansion or FFX4 are making VST to DX, so I believe
>> Paris should have DirectX enabled so the wrappers can find Paris as a DX
>> user.
>> I havn't used Faderworks but if it's a VSTplugin, I believe it shall be
>> in the VST folder so Chainer can find and use it the way you want.
>>
>> Good luck
>> Erling
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>> news:49f4ab69@linux...
>>
>>>Thanks Erling
>>>
>>>Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
>>>
>>>DirectX is disabled in Paris
>>>
>>>FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD plugins no
>>>problem.
>>>
>>>Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or just install
>>>it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
>>>
>>>and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed into that
>>>folder or do I just install it where it want's to go and copy over the
>>>DLLs
>>>
>>>
>>>thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in person
>>>
>>>Don
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f4a73e@linux...
>>>
>>>>Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but I think I
>>>>remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work in a good way. Don't
>>>>use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion find Chainer and Chainer to
>>>>find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then you can open Chainer in Paris VST/DX
>>>>and use your VST plugins there, as far as I remember. I used my UAD card
>>>>this way in Paris some years ago.
>>>>
>>>>Good luck
>>>>Erling
>>>>
>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>news:49f478da@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>Need advice
>>>>>
>>>>>I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX plugs on my
>>>>>Paris rig
>>>>>
>>>>>I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks, Sampleslide, FFX4
>>>>>Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but something is wonky in my setup
>>>>>and it's probably my fault but I need to get this sorted out soon. I
>>>>>have since uninstalled everything except my UAD cards and am back to
>>>>>square one.
>>>>>
>>>>>a blank canvass so to speak
>>>>>
>>>>>if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat would be
>>>>>great and if you're up for it email me your phone # or Skype ID and
>>>>>I'll get back to you pronto
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these goodies on my
>>>>>computer?
>>>>>
>>>>>If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital) do I need the
>>>>>Fxpansion wrapper
>>>>>
>>>>>If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing up.
>>>>>
>>>>>any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks in advance
>>>>>
>>>>>Don
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103242 is a reply to message #103237] |
Sun, 26 April 2009 14:47 |
Erling
Messages: 156
Registered: October 2008
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Jeff, it seems to be different ways to do this. I just know that I have
never disabled DirectX in Paris when using FXpansion 3.3 wrapper in
combination with "Xlutop Chainer". For me, it seems real logical, since
FXpansion VST-DX Adapter/Wrapper is a DX plugin, that need an opn DX line to
be used - and Chainer is a VST host that can show up VST plugins with the
help of FXpansion 3.3.
The thing I remember making problems for me, was when Paris used its own
VSTfolder in combination with FX and Chainer. Therefore I allways have VST
folder in Paris.cfg disabled, so it is only Chainer that can find the VST
plugin folder in Steinberg and FXpansion 3.3 to find the Chainer.exe folder,
that knows where the VST plugins are.
I don't use FFX4 at all because I know "Xlutop Chainer" could open much more
VST plugins on each Paris-channel for me. I have used this combination since
Dimitros talked about "Xlutop Chainer" here - I believe it must be 6-7 years
now - and I have been really happy with that "FXpansion 3.3-Xlutop
Chainer"combination to use my VST plugins. I also know it's working well
with Paris and my AMD Quad computer in Norway, with Mike Audet's new
drivers.
I know we have written about wrapper combinations here up against the years,
so if the archives are doing well and going back to the beginning of this
century, it could be found something about it with some searching.
But as said, it seems to be different ways to do this. If it workes, it
workes.
Erling
"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:49f4c405$1@linux...
> THe way I remember it is a little different:
>
> -Disable Directx
> -Put your wrapper and Faderworks in the VST folder identified in the
> paris.cfg file.
>
> Fire up Paris. You should be able to see the wrapper and Fadersworks as
> native plugs. Load any dx/other vst plugs you want in the wrapper. Set
> your delays in Faderworks.
>
> As I remember, TOm Bruhl is the one acutally utilizing this most (my rig
> is put away right now), so you might ping him specifically.
>
> JH
>
> Erling wrote:
>> Don, are we talking about the same type of Chainer? FFX4 Chainer, isn't
>> it Vince Burel's VST to DX wrapper?
>> I'm talking about this Chainer: http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html
>> in combination with FXpansion 3.3.
>> Be sure there isn't any VST folder opened in Paris config file, it's just
>> the Chainer who shall know that folder. I believe DirectX shall be
>> enabled. You see FXpansion or FFX4 are making VST to DX, so I believe
>> Paris should have DirectX enabled so the wrappers can find Paris as a DX
>> user.
>> I havn't used Faderworks but if it's a VSTplugin, I believe it shall be
>> in the VST folder so Chainer can find and use it the way you want.
>>
>> Good luck
>> Erling
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>> news:49f4ab69@linux...
>>
>>>Thanks Erling
>>>
>>>Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
>>>
>>>DirectX is disabled in Paris
>>>
>>>FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD plugins no
>>>problem.
>>>
>>>Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or just install
>>>it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
>>>
>>>and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed into that
>>>folder or do I just install it where it want's to go and copy over the
>>>DLLs
>>>
>>>
>>>thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in person
>>>
>>>Don
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f4a73e@linux...
>>>
>>>>Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but I think I
>>>>remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work in a good way. Don't
>>>>use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion find Chainer and Chainer to
>>>>find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then you can open Chainer in Paris VST/DX
>>>>and use your VST plugins there, as far as I remember. I used my UAD card
>>>>this way in Paris some years ago.
>>>>
>>>>Good luck
>>>>Erling
>>>>
>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>news:49f478da@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>Need advice
>>>>>
>>>>>I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX plugs on my
>>>>>Paris rig
>>>>>
>>>>>I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks, Sampleslide, FFX4
>>>>>Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but something is wonky in my setup
>>>>>and it's probably my fault but I need to get this sorted out soon. I
>>>>>have since uninstalled everything except my UAD cards and am back to
>>>>>square one.
>>>>>
>>>>>a blank canvass so to speak
>>>>>
>>>>>if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat would be
>>>>>great and if you're up for it email me your phone # or Skype ID and
>>>>>I'll get back to you pronto
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these goodies on my
>>>>>computer?
>>>>>
>>>>>If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital) do I need the
>>>>>Fxpansion wrapper
>>>>>
>>>>>If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing up.
>>>>>
>>>>>any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks in advance
>>>>>
>>>>>Don
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103245 is a reply to message #103242] |
Sun, 26 April 2009 15:48 |
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| Erling wrote on Sun, 26 April 2009 14:47 | I know we have written about wrapper combinations here up against the years,
so if the archives are doing well and going back to the beginning of this
century, it could be found something about it with some searching.
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I believe the NG archives here go back to 2005. I believe Kim has the contents of Chuck's NG before that archived on CD/DVD. If there were a lot of interest in having them online and searchable, I could talk to Kim and Chuck. It *would* be nice to get them into searchable format, there was a lot of good stuff in there.
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103246 is a reply to message #103242] |
Sun, 26 April 2009 16:10 |
dnafe
Messages: 390
Registered: February 2009
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That Xlutop chainer looks pretty impressive...does it do both mono and
stereo plugs because the FFX4 is either mono or stereo.
I also tried Dimitrios' Avcon Digital and it seemed to do the trick (at
first glance) and I'll be looking at it again this evening.
Bottom line is I have a stable setup, all the plugs are playing nice with
each other and I even have two ways to deal with latency, i.e. Faderworks
and Sample slide - both have their pros and cons but both will be used.
Thanks to all who called and submitted replies. You helped remove that
insane look in my eyes which had my wife seriously worried yesterday
hehehe
Don
"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f4dc55@linux...
> Jeff, it seems to be different ways to do this. I just know that I have
> never disabled DirectX in Paris when using FXpansion 3.3 wrapper in
> combination with "Xlutop Chainer". For me, it seems real logical, since
> FXpansion VST-DX Adapter/Wrapper is a DX plugin, that need an opn DX line
> to be used - and Chainer is a VST host that can show up VST plugins with
> the help of FXpansion 3.3.
> The thing I remember making problems for me, was when Paris used its own
> VSTfolder in combination with FX and Chainer. Therefore I allways have VST
> folder in Paris.cfg disabled, so it is only Chainer that can find the VST
> plugin folder in Steinberg and FXpansion 3.3 to find the Chainer.exe
> folder, that knows where the VST plugins are.
> I don't use FFX4 at all because I know "Xlutop Chainer" could open much
> more VST plugins on each Paris-channel for me. I have used this
> combination since Dimitros talked about "Xlutop Chainer" here - I believe
> it must be 6-7 years now - and I have been really happy with that
> "FXpansion 3.3-Xlutop Chainer"combination to use my VST plugins. I also
> know it's working well with Paris and my AMD Quad computer in Norway, with
> Mike Audet's new drivers.
>
> I know we have written about wrapper combinations here up against the
> years, so if the archives are doing well and going back to the beginning
> of this century, it could be found something about it with some searching.
>
> But as said, it seems to be different ways to do this. If it workes, it
> workes.
>
> Erling
>
> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:49f4c405$1@linux...
>> THe way I remember it is a little different:
>>
>> -Disable Directx
>> -Put your wrapper and Faderworks in the VST folder identified in the
>> paris.cfg file.
>>
>> Fire up Paris. You should be able to see the wrapper and Fadersworks as
>> native plugs. Load any dx/other vst plugs you want in the wrapper. Set
>> your delays in Faderworks.
>>
>> As I remember, TOm Bruhl is the one acutally utilizing this most (my rig
>> is put away right now), so you might ping him specifically.
>>
>> JH
>>
>> Erling wrote:
>>> Don, are we talking about the same type of Chainer? FFX4 Chainer, isn't
>>> it Vince Burel's VST to DX wrapper?
>>> I'm talking about this Chainer: http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html
>>> in combination with FXpansion 3.3.
>>> Be sure there isn't any VST folder opened in Paris config file, it's
>>> just the Chainer who shall know that folder. I believe DirectX shall be
>>> enabled. You see FXpansion or FFX4 are making VST to DX, so I believe
>>> Paris should have DirectX enabled so the wrappers can find Paris as a DX
>>> user.
>>> I havn't used Faderworks but if it's a VSTplugin, I believe it shall be
>>> in the VST folder so Chainer can find and use it the way you want.
>>>
>>> Good luck
>>> Erling
>>>
>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>> news:49f4ab69@linux...
>>>
>>>>Thanks Erling
>>>>
>>>>Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
>>>>
>>>>DirectX is disabled in Paris
>>>>
>>>>FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD plugins no
>>>>problem.
>>>>
>>>>Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or just
>>>>install it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
>>>>
>>>>and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed into that
>>>>folder or do I just install it where it want's to go and copy over the
>>>>DLLs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in person
>>>>
>>>>Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f4a73e@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but I think I
>>>>>remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work in a good way.
>>>>>Don't use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion find Chainer and
>>>>>Chainer to find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then you can open Chainer in
>>>>>Paris VST/DX and use your VST plugins there, as far as I remember. I
>>>>>used my UAD card this way in Paris some years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>>Good luck
>>>>>Erling
>>>>>
>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>news:49f478da@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Need advice
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX plugs on my
>>>>>>Paris rig
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks, Sampleslide, FFX4
>>>>>>Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but something is wonky in my setup
>>>>>>and it's probably my fault but I need to get this sorted out soon. I
>>>>>>have since uninstalled everything except my UAD cards and am back to
>>>>>>square one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>a blank canvass so to speak
>>>>>>
>>>>>>if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat would be
>>>>>>great and if you're up for it email me your phone # or Skype ID and
>>>>>>I'll get back to you pronto
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these goodies on my
>>>>>>computer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital) do I need the
>>>>>>Fxpansion wrapper
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>>>>>
>>>>>>thanks in advance
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103247 is a reply to message #103246] |
Mon, 27 April 2009 01:00 |
Erling
Messages: 156
Registered: October 2008
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Senior Member |
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Yes, it's both mono and stereo. In stereo, if I remember correct, Paris must
use channels 1-2, 3-4 and up as pair, not 2-3, 4-5 and up. But I believe
that's the way Paris allways have worked with plugins in stereo channels.
Good to hear your system now is stable and working as you wish and your wife
didn't need to call an ambulance yesterday;-)
Erling
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:49f4efc0@linux...
> That Xlutop chainer looks pretty impressive...does it do both mono and
> stereo plugs because the FFX4 is either mono or stereo.
>
> I also tried Dimitrios' Avcon Digital and it seemed to do the trick (at
> first glance) and I'll be looking at it again this evening.
>
> Bottom line is I have a stable setup, all the plugs are playing nice with
> each other and I even have two ways to deal with latency, i.e. Faderworks
> and Sample slide - both have their pros and cons but both will be used.
>
> Thanks to all who called and submitted replies. You helped remove that
> insane look in my eyes which had my wife seriously worried yesterday
>
> hehehe
>
> Don
>
>
> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f4dc55@linux...
>> Jeff, it seems to be different ways to do this. I just know that I have
>> never disabled DirectX in Paris when using FXpansion 3.3 wrapper in
>> combination with "Xlutop Chainer". For me, it seems real logical, since
>> FXpansion VST-DX Adapter/Wrapper is a DX plugin, that need an opn DX line
>> to be used - and Chainer is a VST host that can show up VST plugins with
>> the help of FXpansion 3.3.
>> The thing I remember making problems for me, was when Paris used its own
>> VSTfolder in combination with FX and Chainer. Therefore I allways have
>> VST folder in Paris.cfg disabled, so it is only Chainer that can find the
>> VST plugin folder in Steinberg and FXpansion 3.3 to find the Chainer.exe
>> folder, that knows where the VST plugins are.
>> I don't use FFX4 at all because I know "Xlutop Chainer" could open much
>> more VST plugins on each Paris-channel for me. I have used this
>> combination since Dimitros talked about "Xlutop Chainer" here - I believe
>> it must be 6-7 years now - and I have been really happy with that
>> "FXpansion 3.3-Xlutop Chainer"combination to use my VST plugins. I also
>> know it's working well with Paris and my AMD Quad computer in Norway,
>> with Mike Audet's new drivers.
>>
>> I know we have written about wrapper combinations here up against the
>> years, so if the archives are doing well and going back to the beginning
>> of this century, it could be found something about it with some
>> searching.
>>
>> But as said, it seems to be different ways to do this. If it workes, it
>> workes.
>>
>> Erling
>>
>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>> news:49f4c405$1@linux...
>>> THe way I remember it is a little different:
>>>
>>> -Disable Directx
>>> -Put your wrapper and Faderworks in the VST folder identified in the
>>> paris.cfg file.
>>>
>>> Fire up Paris. You should be able to see the wrapper and Fadersworks as
>>> native plugs. Load any dx/other vst plugs you want in the wrapper. Set
>>> your delays in Faderworks.
>>>
>>> As I remember, TOm Bruhl is the one acutally utilizing this most (my rig
>>> is put away right now), so you might ping him specifically.
>>>
>>> JH
>>>
>>> Erling wrote:
>>>> Don, are we talking about the same type of Chainer? FFX4 Chainer, isn't
>>>> it Vince Burel's VST to DX wrapper?
>>>> I'm talking about this Chainer: http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html
>>>> in combination with FXpansion 3.3.
>>>> Be sure there isn't any VST folder opened in Paris config file, it's
>>>> just the Chainer who shall know that folder. I believe DirectX shall be
>>>> enabled. You see FXpansion or FFX4 are making VST to DX, so I believe
>>>> Paris should have DirectX enabled so the wrappers can find Paris as a
>>>> DX user.
>>>> I havn't used Faderworks but if it's a VSTplugin, I believe it shall be
>>>> in the VST folder so Chainer can find and use it the way you want.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck
>>>> Erling
>>>>
>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>> news:49f4ab69@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks Erling
>>>>>
>>>>>Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
>>>>>
>>>>>DirectX is disabled in Paris
>>>>>
>>>>>FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD plugins
>>>>>no problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or just
>>>>>install it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
>>>>>
>>>>>and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed into that
>>>>>folder or do I just install it where it want's to go and copy over the
>>>>>DLLs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in person
>>>>>
>>>>>Don
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:49f4a73e@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but I think I
>>>>>>remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work in a good way.
>>>>>>Don't use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion find Chainer and
>>>>>>Chainer to find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then you can open Chainer in
>>>>>>Paris VST/DX and use your VST plugins there, as far as I remember. I
>>>>>>used my UAD card this way in Paris some years ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Good luck
>>>>>>Erling
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>news:49f478da@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Need advice
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX plugs on my
>>>>>>>Paris rig
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks, Sampleslide, FFX4
>>>>>>>Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but something is wonky in my
>>>>>>>setup and it's probably my fault but I need to get this sorted out
>>>>>>>soon. I have since uninstalled everything except my UAD cards and am
>>>>>>>back to square one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>a blank canvass so to speak
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat would be
>>>>>>>great and if you're up for it email me your phone # or Skype ID and
>>>>>>>I'll get back to you pronto
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these goodies on my
>>>>>>>computer?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital) do I need
>>>>>>>the Fxpansion wrapper
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>thanks in advance
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103248 is a reply to message #103247] |
Mon, 27 April 2009 03:53 |
dnafe
Messages: 390
Registered: February 2009
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Senior Member |
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So now the dumb question
How does one use stereo plugins in Paris or is it possible?
thanks
Don
"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f56be2@linux...
> Yes, it's both mono and stereo. In stereo, if I remember correct, Paris
> must use channels 1-2, 3-4 and up as pair, not 2-3, 4-5 and up. But I
> believe that's the way Paris allways have worked with plugins in stereo
> channels.
>
> Good to hear your system now is stable and working as you wish and your
> wife didn't need to call an ambulance yesterday;-)
>
> Erling
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:49f4efc0@linux...
>> That Xlutop chainer looks pretty impressive...does it do both mono and
>> stereo plugs because the FFX4 is either mono or stereo.
>>
>> I also tried Dimitrios' Avcon Digital and it seemed to do the trick (at
>> first glance) and I'll be looking at it again this evening.
>>
>> Bottom line is I have a stable setup, all the plugs are playing nice with
>> each other and I even have two ways to deal with latency, i.e. Faderworks
>> and Sample slide - both have their pros and cons but both will be used.
>>
>> Thanks to all who called and submitted replies. You helped remove that
>> insane look in my eyes which had my wife seriously worried yesterday
>>
>> hehehe
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f4dc55@linux...
>>> Jeff, it seems to be different ways to do this. I just know that I have
>>> never disabled DirectX in Paris when using FXpansion 3.3 wrapper in
>>> combination with "Xlutop Chainer". For me, it seems real logical, since
>>> FXpansion VST-DX Adapter/Wrapper is a DX plugin, that need an opn DX
>>> line to be used - and Chainer is a VST host that can show up VST plugins
>>> with the help of FXpansion 3.3.
>>> The thing I remember making problems for me, was when Paris used its own
>>> VSTfolder in combination with FX and Chainer. Therefore I allways have
>>> VST folder in Paris.cfg disabled, so it is only Chainer that can find
>>> the VST plugin folder in Steinberg and FXpansion 3.3 to find the
>>> Chainer.exe folder, that knows where the VST plugins are.
>>> I don't use FFX4 at all because I know "Xlutop Chainer" could open much
>>> more VST plugins on each Paris-channel for me. I have used this
>>> combination since Dimitros talked about "Xlutop Chainer" here - I
>>> believe it must be 6-7 years now - and I have been really happy with
>>> that "FXpansion 3.3-Xlutop Chainer"combination to use my VST plugins. I
>>> also know it's working well with Paris and my AMD Quad computer in
>>> Norway, with Mike Audet's new drivers.
>>>
>>> I know we have written about wrapper combinations here up against the
>>> years, so if the archives are doing well and going back to the beginning
>>> of this century, it could be found something about it with some
>>> searching.
>>>
>>> But as said, it seems to be different ways to do this. If it workes, it
>>> workes.
>>>
>>> Erling
>>>
>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>> news:49f4c405$1@linux...
>>>> THe way I remember it is a little different:
>>>>
>>>> -Disable Directx
>>>> -Put your wrapper and Faderworks in the VST folder identified in the
>>>> paris.cfg file.
>>>>
>>>> Fire up Paris. You should be able to see the wrapper and Fadersworks
>>>> as native plugs. Load any dx/other vst plugs you want in the wrapper.
>>>> Set your delays in Faderworks.
>>>>
>>>> As I remember, TOm Bruhl is the one acutally utilizing this most (my
>>>> rig is put away right now), so you might ping him specifically.
>>>>
>>>> JH
>>>>
>>>> Erling wrote:
>>>>> Don, are we talking about the same type of Chainer? FFX4 Chainer,
>>>>> isn't it Vince Burel's VST to DX wrapper?
>>>>> I'm talking about this Chainer:
>>>>> http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html in combination with FXpansion
>>>>> 3.3.
>>>>> Be sure there isn't any VST folder opened in Paris config file, it's
>>>>> just the Chainer who shall know that folder. I believe DirectX shall
>>>>> be enabled. You see FXpansion or FFX4 are making VST to DX, so I
>>>>> believe Paris should have DirectX enabled so the wrappers can find
>>>>> Paris as a DX user.
>>>>> I havn't used Faderworks but if it's a VSTplugin, I believe it shall
>>>>> be in the VST folder so Chainer can find and use it the way you want.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck
>>>>> Erling
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>> news:49f4ab69@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks Erling
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
>>>>>>
>>>>>>DirectX is disabled in Paris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD plugins
>>>>>>no problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or just
>>>>>>install it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed into that
>>>>>>folder or do I just install it where it want's to go and copy over the
>>>>>>DLLs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in person
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:49f4a73e@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but I think I
>>>>>>>remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work in a good way.
>>>>>>>Don't use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion find Chainer and
>>>>>>>Chainer to find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then you can open Chainer
>>>>>>>in Paris VST/DX and use your VST plugins there, as far as I remember.
>>>>>>>I used my UAD card this way in Paris some years ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Good luck
>>>>>>>Erling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>news:49f478da@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Need advice
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX plugs on
>>>>>>>>my Paris rig
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks, Sampleslide,
>>>>>>>>FFX4 Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but something is wonky in
>>>>>>>>my setup and it's probably my fault but I need to get this sorted
>>>>>>>>out soon. I have since uninstalled everything except my UAD cards
>>>>>>>>and am back to square one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>a blank canvass so to speak
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat would be
>>>>>>>>great and if you're up for it email me your phone # or Skype ID and
>>>>>>>>I'll get back to you pronto
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these goodies on
>>>>>>>>my computer?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital) do I need
>>>>>>>>the Fxpansion wrapper
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>thanks in advance
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103254 is a reply to message #103248] |
Mon, 27 April 2009 08:06 |
Erling
Messages: 156
Registered: October 2008
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Senior Member |
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If you have recorded stereo, let's say on channel 3 and 4 -
You're opening a stereoplugin on channel 3 in Native Inserts -
There shall be a stereo checkbox you have to activate and the system will
read channel 4 automatic, as far as I remember.
Good luck
Erling
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:49f59491$1@linux...
> So now the dumb question
>
> How does one use stereo plugins in Paris or is it possible?
>
> thanks
>
> Don
>
>
> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f56be2@linux...
>> Yes, it's both mono and stereo. In stereo, if I remember correct, Paris
>> must use channels 1-2, 3-4 and up as pair, not 2-3, 4-5 and up. But I
>> believe that's the way Paris allways have worked with plugins in stereo
>> channels.
>>
>> Good to hear your system now is stable and working as you wish and your
>> wife didn't need to call an ambulance yesterday;-)
>>
>> Erling
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>> news:49f4efc0@linux...
>>> That Xlutop chainer looks pretty impressive...does it do both mono and
>>> stereo plugs because the FFX4 is either mono or stereo.
>>>
>>> I also tried Dimitrios' Avcon Digital and it seemed to do the trick (at
>>> first glance) and I'll be looking at it again this evening.
>>>
>>> Bottom line is I have a stable setup, all the plugs are playing nice
>>> with each other and I even have two ways to deal with latency, i.e.
>>> Faderworks and Sample slide - both have their pros and cons but both
>>> will be used.
>>>
>>> Thanks to all who called and submitted replies. You helped remove that
>>> insane look in my eyes which had my wife seriously worried yesterday
>>>
>>> hehehe
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f4dc55@linux...
>>>> Jeff, it seems to be different ways to do this. I just know that I have
>>>> never disabled DirectX in Paris when using FXpansion 3.3 wrapper in
>>>> combination with "Xlutop Chainer". For me, it seems real logical, since
>>>> FXpansion VST-DX Adapter/Wrapper is a DX plugin, that need an opn DX
>>>> line to be used - and Chainer is a VST host that can show up VST
>>>> plugins with the help of FXpansion 3.3.
>>>> The thing I remember making problems for me, was when Paris used its
>>>> own VSTfolder in combination with FX and Chainer. Therefore I allways
>>>> have VST folder in Paris.cfg disabled, so it is only Chainer that can
>>>> find the VST plugin folder in Steinberg and FXpansion 3.3 to find the
>>>> Chainer.exe folder, that knows where the VST plugins are.
>>>> I don't use FFX4 at all because I know "Xlutop Chainer" could open much
>>>> more VST plugins on each Paris-channel for me. I have used this
>>>> combination since Dimitros talked about "Xlutop Chainer" here - I
>>>> believe it must be 6-7 years now - and I have been really happy with
>>>> that "FXpansion 3.3-Xlutop Chainer"combination to use my VST plugins. I
>>>> also know it's working well with Paris and my AMD Quad computer in
>>>> Norway, with Mike Audet's new drivers.
>>>>
>>>> I know we have written about wrapper combinations here up against the
>>>> years, so if the archives are doing well and going back to the
>>>> beginning of this century, it could be found something about it with
>>>> some searching.
>>>>
>>>> But as said, it seems to be different ways to do this. If it workes, it
>>>> workes.
>>>>
>>>> Erling
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>> news:49f4c405$1@linux...
>>>>> THe way I remember it is a little different:
>>>>>
>>>>> -Disable Directx
>>>>> -Put your wrapper and Faderworks in the VST folder identified in the
>>>>> paris.cfg file.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fire up Paris. You should be able to see the wrapper and Fadersworks
>>>>> as native plugs. Load any dx/other vst plugs you want in the wrapper.
>>>>> Set your delays in Faderworks.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I remember, TOm Bruhl is the one acutally utilizing this most (my
>>>>> rig is put away right now), so you might ping him specifically.
>>>>>
>>>>> JH
>>>>>
>>>>> Erling wrote:
>>>>>> Don, are we talking about the same type of Chainer? FFX4 Chainer,
>>>>>> isn't it Vince Burel's VST to DX wrapper?
>>>>>> I'm talking about this Chainer:
>>>>>> http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html in combination with FXpansion
>>>>>> 3.3.
>>>>>> Be sure there isn't any VST folder opened in Paris config file, it's
>>>>>> just the Chainer who shall know that folder. I believe DirectX shall
>>>>>> be enabled. You see FXpansion or FFX4 are making VST to DX, so I
>>>>>> believe Paris should have DirectX enabled so the wrappers can find
>>>>>> Paris as a DX user.
>>>>>> I havn't used Faderworks but if it's a VSTplugin, I believe it shall
>>>>>> be in the VST folder so Chainer can find and use it the way you want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>> news:49f4ab69@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks Erling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>DirectX is disabled in Paris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD plugins
>>>>>>>no problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or just
>>>>>>>install it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed into that
>>>>>>>folder or do I just install it where it want's to go and copy over
>>>>>>>the DLLs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in person
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:49f4a73e@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but I think
>>>>>>>>I remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work in a good way.
>>>>>>>>Don't use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion find Chainer and
>>>>>>>>Chainer to find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then you can open Chainer
>>>>>>>>in Paris VST/DX and use your VST plugins there, as far as I
>>>>>>>>remember. I used my UAD card this way in Paris some years ago.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Good luck
>>>>>>>>Erling
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>news:49f478da@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Need advice
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX plugs on
>>>>>>>>>my Paris rig
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks, Sampleslide,
>>>>>>>>>FFX4 Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but something is wonky in
>>>>>>>>>my setup and it's probably my fault but I need to get this sorted
>>>>>>>>>out soon. I have since uninstalled everything except my UAD cards
>>>>>>>>>and am back to square one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>a blank canvass so to speak
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat would be
>>>>>>>>>great and if you're up for it email me your phone # or Skype ID and
>>>>>>>>>I'll get back to you pronto
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these goodies on
>>>>>>>>>my computer?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital) do I need
>>>>>>>>>the Fxpansion wrapper
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing up.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103255 is a reply to message #103248] |
Mon, 27 April 2009 08:08 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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Senior Member |
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Hey Don,
Glad to hear things are coming together for you!
When you open the native plugins list there's a little stereo box you
can check in the lower left hand corner. It chooses the
track to the right as the right channel. Sometimes Paris doesn't like
using paris mono effects with stereo natives though. It's helpful
to have the audio on the stereo tracks be exactly the same length
and with no edits. Sometimes it doesn't matter regarding the edits.
Tom
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f59491$1@linux...
> So now the dumb question
>
> How does one use stereo plugins in Paris or is it possible?
>
> thanks
>
> Don
>
>
> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f56be2@linux...
>> Yes, it's both mono and stereo. In stereo, if I remember correct, Paris
>> must use channels 1-2, 3-4 and up as pair, not 2-3, 4-5 and up. But I
>> believe that's the way Paris allways have worked with plugins in stereo
>> channels.
>>
>> Good to hear your system now is stable and working as you wish and your
>> wife didn't need to call an ambulance yesterday;-)
>>
>> Erling
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>> news:49f4efc0@linux...
>>> That Xlutop chainer looks pretty impressive...does it do both mono and
>>> stereo plugs because the FFX4 is either mono or stereo.
>>>
>>> I also tried Dimitrios' Avcon Digital and it seemed to do the trick (at
>>> first glance) and I'll be looking at it again this evening.
>>>
>>> Bottom line is I have a stable setup, all the plugs are playing nice
>>> with each other and I even have two ways to deal with latency, i.e.
>>> Faderworks and Sample slide - both have their pros and cons but both
>>> will be used.
>>>
>>> Thanks to all who called and submitted replies. You helped remove that
>>> insane look in my eyes which had my wife seriously worried yesterday
>>>
>>> hehehe
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f4dc55@linux...
>>>> Jeff, it seems to be different ways to do this. I just know that I have
>>>> never disabled DirectX in Paris when using FXpansion 3.3 wrapper in
>>>> combination with "Xlutop Chainer". For me, it seems real logical, since
>>>> FXpansion VST-DX Adapter/Wrapper is a DX plugin, that need an opn DX
>>>> line to be used - and Chainer is a VST host that can show up VST
>>>> plugins with the help of FXpansion 3.3.
>>>> The thing I remember making problems for me, was when Paris used its
>>>> own VSTfolder in combination with FX and Chainer. Therefore I allways
>>>> have VST folder in Paris.cfg disabled, so it is only Chainer that can
>>>> find the VST plugin folder in Steinberg and FXpansion 3.3 to find the
>>>> Chainer.exe folder, that knows where the VST plugins are.
>>>> I don't use FFX4 at all because I know "Xlutop Chainer" could open much
>>>> more VST plugins on each Paris-channel for me. I have used this
>>>> combination since Dimitros talked about "Xlutop Chainer" here - I
>>>> believe it must be 6-7 years now - and I have been really happy with
>>>> that "FXpansion 3.3-Xlutop Chainer"combination to use my VST plugins. I
>>>> also know it's working well with Paris and my AMD Quad computer in
>>>> Norway, with Mike Audet's new drivers.
>>>>
>>>> I know we have written about wrapper combinations here up against the
>>>> years, so if the archives are doing well and going back to the
>>>> beginning of this century, it could be found something about it with
>>>> some searching.
>>>>
>>>> But as said, it seems to be different ways to do this. If it workes, it
>>>> workes.
>>>>
>>>> Erling
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>> news:49f4c405$1@linux...
>>>>> THe way I remember it is a little different:
>>>>>
>>>>> -Disable Directx
>>>>> -Put your wrapper and Faderworks in the VST folder identified in the
>>>>> paris.cfg file.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fire up Paris. You should be able to see the wrapper and Fadersworks
>>>>> as native plugs. Load any dx/other vst plugs you want in the wrapper.
>>>>> Set your delays in Faderworks.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I remember, TOm Bruhl is the one acutally utilizing this most (my
>>>>> rig is put away right now), so you might ping him specifically.
>>>>>
>>>>> JH
>>>>>
>>>>> Erling wrote:
>>>>>> Don, are we talking about the same type of Chainer? FFX4 Chainer,
>>>>>> isn't it Vince Burel's VST to DX wrapper?
>>>>>> I'm talking about this Chainer:
>>>>>> http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html in combination with FXpansion
>>>>>> 3.3.
>>>>>> Be sure there isn't any VST folder opened in Paris config file, it's
>>>>>> just the Chainer who shall know that folder. I believe DirectX shall
>>>>>> be enabled. You see FXpansion or FFX4 are making VST to DX, so I
>>>>>> believe Paris should have DirectX enabled so the wrappers can find
>>>>>> Paris as a DX user.
>>>>>> I havn't used Faderworks but if it's a VSTplugin, I believe it shall
>>>>>> be in the VST folder so Chainer can find and use it the way you want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>> news:49f4ab69@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks Erling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>DirectX is disabled in Paris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD plugins
>>>>>>>no problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or just
>>>>>>>install it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed into that
>>>>>>>folder or do I just install it where it want's to go and copy over
>>>>>>>the DLLs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in person
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:49f4a73e@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but I think
>>>>>>>>I remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work in a good way.
>>>>>>>>Don't use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion find Chainer and
>>>>>>>>Chainer to find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then you can open Chainer
>>>>>>>>in Paris VST/DX and use your VST plugins there, as far as I
>>>>>>>>remember. I used my UAD card this way in Paris some years ago.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Good luck
>>>>>>>>Erling
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>news:49f478da@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Need advice
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX plugs on
>>>>>>>>>my Paris rig
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks, Sampleslide,
>>>>>>>>>FFX4 Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but something is wonky in
>>>>>>>>>my setup and it's probably my fault but I need to get this sorted
>>>>>>>>>out soon. I have since uninstalled everything except my UAD cards
>>>>>>>>>and am back to square one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>a blank canvass so to speak
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat would be
>>>>>>>>>great and if you're up for it email me your phone # or Skype ID and
>>>>>>>>>I'll get back to you pronto
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these goodies on
>>>>>>>>>my computer?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital) do I need
>>>>>>>>>the Fxpansion wrapper
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing up.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103257 is a reply to message #103255] |
Mon, 27 April 2009 09:16 |
dnafe
Messages: 390
Registered: February 2009
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Senior Member |
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Thanks guys...gonna give it a go this afternoon
Living dangerously
Don
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49f5cff2@linux...
> Hey Don,
>
> Glad to hear things are coming together for you!
>
> When you open the native plugins list there's a little stereo box you
> can check in the lower left hand corner. It chooses the
> track to the right as the right channel. Sometimes Paris doesn't like
> using paris mono effects with stereo natives though. It's helpful
> to have the audio on the stereo tracks be exactly the same length
> and with no edits. Sometimes it doesn't matter regarding the edits.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f59491$1@linux...
>> So now the dumb question
>>
>> How does one use stereo plugins in Paris or is it possible?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f56be2@linux...
>>> Yes, it's both mono and stereo. In stereo, if I remember correct, Paris
>>> must use channels 1-2, 3-4 and up as pair, not 2-3, 4-5 and up. But I
>>> believe that's the way Paris allways have worked with plugins in stereo
>>> channels.
>>>
>>> Good to hear your system now is stable and working as you wish and your
>>> wife didn't need to call an ambulance yesterday;-)
>>>
>>> Erling
>>>
>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>> news:49f4efc0@linux...
>>>> That Xlutop chainer looks pretty impressive...does it do both mono and
>>>> stereo plugs because the FFX4 is either mono or stereo.
>>>>
>>>> I also tried Dimitrios' Avcon Digital and it seemed to do the trick (at
>>>> first glance) and I'll be looking at it again this evening.
>>>>
>>>> Bottom line is I have a stable setup, all the plugs are playing nice
>>>> with each other and I even have two ways to deal with latency, i.e.
>>>> Faderworks and Sample slide - both have their pros and cons but both
>>>> will be used.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to all who called and submitted replies. You helped remove that
>>>> insane look in my eyes which had my wife seriously worried yesterday
>>>>
>>>> hehehe
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:49f4dc55@linux...
>>>>> Jeff, it seems to be different ways to do this. I just know that I
>>>>> have never disabled DirectX in Paris when using FXpansion 3.3 wrapper
>>>>> in combination with "Xlutop Chainer". For me, it seems real logical,
>>>>> since FXpansion VST-DX Adapter/Wrapper is a DX plugin, that need an
>>>>> opn DX line to be used - and Chainer is a VST host that can show up
>>>>> VST plugins with the help of FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>> The thing I remember making problems for me, was when Paris used its
>>>>> own VSTfolder in combination with FX and Chainer. Therefore I allways
>>>>> have VST folder in Paris.cfg disabled, so it is only Chainer that can
>>>>> find the VST plugin folder in Steinberg and FXpansion 3.3 to find the
>>>>> Chainer.exe folder, that knows where the VST plugins are.
>>>>> I don't use FFX4 at all because I know "Xlutop Chainer" could open
>>>>> much more VST plugins on each Paris-channel for me. I have used this
>>>>> combination since Dimitros talked about "Xlutop Chainer" here - I
>>>>> believe it must be 6-7 years now - and I have been really happy with
>>>>> that "FXpansion 3.3-Xlutop Chainer"combination to use my VST plugins.
>>>>> I also know it's working well with Paris and my AMD Quad computer in
>>>>> Norway, with Mike Audet's new drivers.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know we have written about wrapper combinations here up against the
>>>>> years, so if the archives are doing well and going back to the
>>>>> beginning of this century, it could be found something about it with
>>>>> some searching.
>>>>>
>>>>> But as said, it seems to be different ways to do this. If it workes,
>>>>> it workes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Erling
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>> news:49f4c405$1@linux...
>>>>>> THe way I remember it is a little different:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Disable Directx
>>>>>> -Put your wrapper and Faderworks in the VST folder identified in the
>>>>>> paris.cfg file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fire up Paris. You should be able to see the wrapper and Fadersworks
>>>>>> as native plugs. Load any dx/other vst plugs you want in the
>>>>>> wrapper. Set your delays in Faderworks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I remember, TOm Bruhl is the one acutally utilizing this most (my
>>>>>> rig is put away right now), so you might ping him specifically.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JH
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Erling wrote:
>>>>>>> Don, are we talking about the same type of Chainer? FFX4 Chainer,
>>>>>>> isn't it Vince Burel's VST to DX wrapper?
>>>>>>> I'm talking about this Chainer:
>>>>>>> http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html in combination with
>>>>>>> FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>>> Be sure there isn't any VST folder opened in Paris config file, it's
>>>>>>> just the Chainer who shall know that folder. I believe DirectX shall
>>>>>>> be enabled. You see FXpansion or FFX4 are making VST to DX, so I
>>>>>>> believe Paris should have DirectX enabled so the wrappers can find
>>>>>>> Paris as a DX user.
>>>>>>> I havn't used Faderworks but if it's a VSTplugin, I believe it shall
>>>>>>> be in the VST folder so Chainer can find and use it the way you
>>>>>>> want.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>> news:49f4ab69@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks Erling
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>DirectX is disabled in Paris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD
>>>>>>>>plugins no problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or just
>>>>>>>>install it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed into
>>>>>>>>that folder or do I just install it where it want's to go and copy
>>>>>>>>over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in person
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:49f4a73e@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but I think
>>>>>>>>>I remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work in a good
>>>>>>>>>way. Don't use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion find
>>>>>>>>>Chainer and Chainer to find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then you can
>>>>>>>>>open Chainer in Paris VST/DX and use your VST plugins there, as far
>>>>>>>>>as I remember. I used my UAD card this way in Paris some years ago.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Good luck
>>>>>>>>>Erling
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>>news:49f478da@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Need advice
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX plugs on
>>>>>>>>>>my Paris rig
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks, Sampleslide,
>>>>>>>>>>FFX4 Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but something is wonky in
>>>>>>>>>>my setup and it's probably my fault but I need to get this sorted
>>>>>>>>>>out soon. I have since uninstalled everything except my UAD cards
>>>>>>>>>>and am back to square one.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>a blank canvass so to speak
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat would
>>>>>>>>>>be great and if you're up for it email me your phone # or Skype ID
>>>>>>>>>>and I'll get back to you pronto
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these goodies on
>>>>>>>>>>my computer?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital) do I need
>>>>>>>>>>the Fxpansion wrapper
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing up.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103322 is a reply to message #103257] |
Wed, 29 April 2009 02:34 |
dnafe
Messages: 390
Registered: February 2009
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Senior Member |
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For whatever reason enabling DX and removing the VST folder is Paris config
turns my Paris start up into a nightmare of pop up error windows so I went
back to disabling DX and pointing Paris to my VST folder to take care of
things.
I'm not really happy with that ugly tan coloured interface that accompanies
each plugin as it eats up a lot of landscape on my monitors but if that's
the price I have to pay so be it...I'll get used to it in time.
I'm also using Faderworks in slot one and so far it's doing the job nicely.
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f5e059$1@linux...
> Thanks guys...gonna give it a go this afternoon
>
> Living dangerously
>
> Don
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49f5cff2@linux...
>> Hey Don,
>>
>> Glad to hear things are coming together for you!
>>
>> When you open the native plugins list there's a little stereo box you
>> can check in the lower left hand corner. It chooses the
>> track to the right as the right channel. Sometimes Paris doesn't like
>> using paris mono effects with stereo natives though. It's helpful
>> to have the audio on the stereo tracks be exactly the same length
>> and with no edits. Sometimes it doesn't matter regarding the edits.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f59491$1@linux...
>>> So now the dumb question
>>>
>>> How does one use stereo plugins in Paris or is it possible?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f56be2@linux...
>>>> Yes, it's both mono and stereo. In stereo, if I remember correct, Paris
>>>> must use channels 1-2, 3-4 and up as pair, not 2-3, 4-5 and up. But I
>>>> believe that's the way Paris allways have worked with plugins in stereo
>>>> channels.
>>>>
>>>> Good to hear your system now is stable and working as you wish and your
>>>> wife didn't need to call an ambulance yesterday;-)
>>>>
>>>> Erling
>>>>
>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>> news:49f4efc0@linux...
>>>>> That Xlutop chainer looks pretty impressive...does it do both mono and
>>>>> stereo plugs because the FFX4 is either mono or stereo.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also tried Dimitrios' Avcon Digital and it seemed to do the trick
>>>>> (at first glance) and I'll be looking at it again this evening.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bottom line is I have a stable setup, all the plugs are playing nice
>>>>> with each other and I even have two ways to deal with latency, i.e.
>>>>> Faderworks and Sample slide - both have their pros and cons but both
>>>>> will be used.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to all who called and submitted replies. You helped remove that
>>>>> insane look in my eyes which had my wife seriously worried yesterday
>>>>>
>>>>> hehehe
>>>>>
>>>>> Don
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:49f4dc55@linux...
>>>>>> Jeff, it seems to be different ways to do this. I just know that I
>>>>>> have never disabled DirectX in Paris when using FXpansion 3.3 wrapper
>>>>>> in combination with "Xlutop Chainer". For me, it seems real logical,
>>>>>> since FXpansion VST-DX Adapter/Wrapper is a DX plugin, that need an
>>>>>> opn DX line to be used - and Chainer is a VST host that can show up
>>>>>> VST plugins with the help of FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>> The thing I remember making problems for me, was when Paris used its
>>>>>> own VSTfolder in combination with FX and Chainer. Therefore I allways
>>>>>> have VST folder in Paris.cfg disabled, so it is only Chainer that can
>>>>>> find the VST plugin folder in Steinberg and FXpansion 3.3 to find the
>>>>>> Chainer.exe folder, that knows where the VST plugins are.
>>>>>> I don't use FFX4 at all because I know "Xlutop Chainer" could open
>>>>>> much more VST plugins on each Paris-channel for me. I have used this
>>>>>> combination since Dimitros talked about "Xlutop Chainer" here - I
>>>>>> believe it must be 6-7 years now - and I have been really happy with
>>>>>> that "FXpansion 3.3-Xlutop Chainer"combination to use my VST plugins.
>>>>>> I also know it's working well with Paris and my AMD Quad computer in
>>>>>> Norway, with Mike Audet's new drivers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know we have written about wrapper combinations here up against the
>>>>>> years, so if the archives are doing well and going back to the
>>>>>> beginning of this century, it could be found something about it with
>>>>>> some searching.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But as said, it seems to be different ways to do this. If it workes,
>>>>>> it workes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>> news:49f4c405$1@linux...
>>>>>>> THe way I remember it is a little different:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Disable Directx
>>>>>>> -Put your wrapper and Faderworks in the VST folder identified in the
>>>>>>> paris.cfg file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fire up Paris. You should be able to see the wrapper and
>>>>>>> Fadersworks as native plugs. Load any dx/other vst plugs you want
>>>>>>> in the wrapper. Set your delays in Faderworks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I remember, TOm Bruhl is the one acutally utilizing this most (my
>>>>>>> rig is put away right now), so you might ping him specifically.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JH
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Erling wrote:
>>>>>>>> Don, are we talking about the same type of Chainer? FFX4 Chainer,
>>>>>>>> isn't it Vince Burel's VST to DX wrapper?
>>>>>>>> I'm talking about this Chainer:
>>>>>>>> http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html in combination with
>>>>>>>> FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>>>> Be sure there isn't any VST folder opened in Paris config file,
>>>>>>>> it's just the Chainer who shall know that folder. I believe DirectX
>>>>>>>> shall be enabled. You see FXpansion or FFX4 are making VST to DX,
>>>>>>>> so I believe Paris should have DirectX enabled so the wrappers can
>>>>>>>> find Paris as a DX user.
>>>>>>>> I havn't used Faderworks but if it's a VSTplugin, I believe it
>>>>>>>> shall be in the VST folder so Chainer can find and use it the way
>>>>>>>> you want.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>> news:49f4ab69@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks Erling
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>DirectX is disabled in Paris
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD
>>>>>>>>>plugins no problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or just
>>>>>>>>>install it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed into
>>>>>>>>>that folder or do I just install it where it want's to go and copy
>>>>>>>>>over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in person
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:49f4a73e@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but I
>>>>>>>>>>think I remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work in a
>>>>>>>>>>good way. Don't use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion find
>>>>>>>>>>Chainer and Chainer to find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then you can
>>>>>>>>>>open Chainer in Paris VST/DX and use your VST plugins there, as
>>>>>>>>>>far as I remember. I used my UAD card this way in Paris some years
>>>>>>>>>>ago.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Good luck
>>>>>>>>>>Erling
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>>>news:49f478da@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Need advice
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX plugs
>>>>>>>>>>>on my Paris rig
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks, Sampleslide,
>>>>>>>>>>>FFX4 Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but something is wonky
>>>>>>>>>>>in my setup and it's probably my fault but I need to get this
>>>>>>>>>>>sorted out soon. I have since uninstalled everything except my
>>>>>>>>>>>UAD cards and am back to square one.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>a blank canvass so to speak
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat would
>>>>>>>>>>>be great and if you're up for it email me your phone # or Skype
>>>>>>>>>>>ID and I'll get back to you pronto
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these goodies
>>>>>>>>>>>on my computer?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital) do I
>>>>>>>>>>>need the Fxpansion wrapper
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing up.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103324 is a reply to message #103322] |
Wed, 29 April 2009 06:38 |
Erling
Messages: 156
Registered: October 2008
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Senior Member |
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Don, when you say it, I seems to remember I had the same nightmare with
popup errors when trying to remove the VST folder in Paris cfg. It's so many
years ago but something says me, if aVST folder was set for use in the
Setting Menu, Paris locked it there and remembered the VST plugins in that
folder, whatever I tried to do. It was in those days I had Ghosted, so I
believe I had a clean Paris installation where nothing was marked, so I
could start up again the experiments from the beginning. I'm pretty sure it
was the last time I was setting a VST folder from the Setting Menu in Paris,
when I got FXpansion 3.3 and Chainer to work together. I'm often using
directX plugins too, in combination with VST's in Chainer, so therefore I
never either touch DX configurations when innstalling Paris on new machines.
With Chainer I can use up to 9 VST plugins and 3 DX on each channel in Paris
or I can use up to 36 VST plugins if using 4 Chainers on each channel. But
this is just theoretical, it's the PC horsepower that makes rules for how
many plugins you can use.
But as a golden rule for most of us: Never change a good working system if
you have work to do with it!
Erling
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:49f82524@linux...
> For whatever reason enabling DX and removing the VST folder is Paris
> config turns my Paris start up into a nightmare of pop up error windows so
> I went back to disabling DX and pointing Paris to my VST folder to take
> care of things.
>
> I'm not really happy with that ugly tan coloured interface that
> accompanies each plugin as it eats up a lot of landscape on my monitors
> but if that's the price I have to pay so be it...I'll get used to it in
> time.
>
> I'm also using Faderworks in slot one and so far it's doing the job
> nicely.
>
>
>
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f5e059$1@linux...
>> Thanks guys...gonna give it a go this afternoon
>>
>> Living dangerously
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49f5cff2@linux...
>>> Hey Don,
>>>
>>> Glad to hear things are coming together for you!
>>>
>>> When you open the native plugins list there's a little stereo box you
>>> can check in the lower left hand corner. It chooses the
>>> track to the right as the right channel. Sometimes Paris doesn't like
>>> using paris mono effects with stereo natives though. It's helpful
>>> to have the audio on the stereo tracks be exactly the same length
>>> and with no edits. Sometimes it doesn't matter regarding the edits.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f59491$1@linux...
>>>> So now the dumb question
>>>>
>>>> How does one use stereo plugins in Paris or is it possible?
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:49f56be2@linux...
>>>>> Yes, it's both mono and stereo. In stereo, if I remember correct,
>>>>> Paris must use channels 1-2, 3-4 and up as pair, not 2-3, 4-5 and up.
>>>>> But I believe that's the way Paris allways have worked with plugins in
>>>>> stereo channels.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good to hear your system now is stable and working as you wish and
>>>>> your wife didn't need to call an ambulance yesterday;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Erling
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>> news:49f4efc0@linux...
>>>>>> That Xlutop chainer looks pretty impressive...does it do both mono
>>>>>> and stereo plugs because the FFX4 is either mono or stereo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also tried Dimitrios' Avcon Digital and it seemed to do the trick
>>>>>> (at first glance) and I'll be looking at it again this evening.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bottom line is I have a stable setup, all the plugs are playing nice
>>>>>> with each other and I even have two ways to deal with latency, i.e.
>>>>>> Faderworks and Sample slide - both have their pros and cons but both
>>>>>> will be used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to all who called and submitted replies. You helped remove
>>>>>> that insane look in my eyes which had my wife seriously worried
>>>>>> yesterday
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hehehe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:49f4dc55@linux...
>>>>>>> Jeff, it seems to be different ways to do this. I just know that I
>>>>>>> have never disabled DirectX in Paris when using FXpansion 3.3
>>>>>>> wrapper in combination with "Xlutop Chainer". For me, it seems real
>>>>>>> logical, since FXpansion VST-DX Adapter/Wrapper is a DX plugin, that
>>>>>>> need an opn DX line to be used - and Chainer is a VST host that can
>>>>>>> show up VST plugins with the help of FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>>> The thing I remember making problems for me, was when Paris used its
>>>>>>> own VSTfolder in combination with FX and Chainer. Therefore I
>>>>>>> allways have VST folder in Paris.cfg disabled, so it is only Chainer
>>>>>>> that can find the VST plugin folder in Steinberg and FXpansion 3.3
>>>>>>> to find the Chainer.exe folder, that knows where the VST plugins
>>>>>>> are.
>>>>>>> I don't use FFX4 at all because I know "Xlutop Chainer" could open
>>>>>>> much more VST plugins on each Paris-channel for me. I have used this
>>>>>>> combination since Dimitros talked about "Xlutop Chainer" here - I
>>>>>>> believe it must be 6-7 years now - and I have been really happy with
>>>>>>> that "FXpansion 3.3-Xlutop Chainer"combination to use my VST
>>>>>>> plugins. I also know it's working well with Paris and my AMD Quad
>>>>>>> computer in Norway, with Mike Audet's new drivers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know we have written about wrapper combinations here up against
>>>>>>> the years, so if the archives are doing well and going back to the
>>>>>>> beginning of this century, it could be found something about it with
>>>>>>> some searching.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But as said, it seems to be different ways to do this. If it workes,
>>>>>>> it workes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>> news:49f4c405$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> THe way I remember it is a little different:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Disable Directx
>>>>>>>> -Put your wrapper and Faderworks in the VST folder identified in
>>>>>>>> the paris.cfg file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fire up Paris. You should be able to see the wrapper and
>>>>>>>> Fadersworks as native plugs. Load any dx/other vst plugs you want
>>>>>>>> in the wrapper. Set your delays in Faderworks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I remember, TOm Bruhl is the one acutally utilizing this most
>>>>>>>> (my rig is put away right now), so you might ping him specifically.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> JH
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Erling wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Don, are we talking about the same type of Chainer? FFX4 Chainer,
>>>>>>>>> isn't it Vince Burel's VST to DX wrapper?
>>>>>>>>> I'm talking about this Chainer:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html in combination with
>>>>>>>>> FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>>>>> Be sure there isn't any VST folder opened in Paris config file,
>>>>>>>>> it's just the Chainer who shall know that folder. I believe
>>>>>>>>> DirectX shall be enabled. You see FXpansion or FFX4 are making VST
>>>>>>>>> to DX, so I believe Paris should have DirectX enabled so the
>>>>>>>>> wrappers can find Paris as a DX user.
>>>>>>>>> I havn't used Faderworks but if it's a VSTplugin, I believe it
>>>>>>>>> shall be in the VST folder so Chainer can find and use it the way
>>>>>>>>> you want.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>> news:49f4ab69@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks Erling
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>DirectX is disabled in Paris
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD
>>>>>>>>>>plugins no problem.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or just
>>>>>>>>>>install it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed into
>>>>>>>>>>that folder or do I just install it where it want's to go and copy
>>>>>>>>>>over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in person
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>news:49f4a73e@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but I
>>>>>>>>>>>think I remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work in a
>>>>>>>>>>>good way. Don't use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion find
>>>>>>>>>>>Chainer and Chainer to find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then you
>>>>>>>>>>>can open Chainer in Paris VST/DX and use your VST plugins there,
>>>>>>>>>>>as far as I remember. I used my UAD card this way in Paris some
>>>>>>>>>>>years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Good luck
>>>>>>>>>>>Erling
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>>>>news:49f478da@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Need advice
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX plugs
>>>>>>>>>>>>on my Paris rig
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks, Sampleslide,
>>>>>>>>>>>>FFX4 Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but something is wonky
>>>>>>>>>>>>in my setup and it's probably my fault but I need to get this
>>>>>>>>>>>>sorted out soon. I have since uninstalled everything except my
>>>>>>>>>>>>UAD cards and am back to square one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>a blank canvass so to speak
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat would
>>>>>>>>>>>>be great and if you're up for it email me your phone # or Skype
>>>>>>>>>>>>ID and I'll get back to you pronto
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these goodies
>>>>>>>>>>>>on my computer?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital) do I
>>>>>>>>>>>>need the Fxpansion wrapper
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103325 is a reply to message #103322] |
Wed, 29 April 2009 06:49 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Hey Don,
What did the pop errors say?
Tom
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f82524@linux...
> For whatever reason enabling DX and removing the VST folder is Paris
> config turns my Paris start up into a nightmare of pop up error windows so
> I went back to disabling DX and pointing Paris to my VST folder to take
> care of things.
>
> I'm not really happy with that ugly tan coloured interface that
> accompanies each plugin as it eats up a lot of landscape on my monitors
> but if that's the price I have to pay so be it...I'll get used to it in
> time.
>
> I'm also using Faderworks in slot one and so far it's doing the job
> nicely.
>
>
>
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f5e059$1@linux...
>> Thanks guys...gonna give it a go this afternoon
>>
>> Living dangerously
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49f5cff2@linux...
>>> Hey Don,
>>>
>>> Glad to hear things are coming together for you!
>>>
>>> When you open the native plugins list there's a little stereo box you
>>> can check in the lower left hand corner. It chooses the
>>> track to the right as the right channel. Sometimes Paris doesn't like
>>> using paris mono effects with stereo natives though. It's helpful
>>> to have the audio on the stereo tracks be exactly the same length
>>> and with no edits. Sometimes it doesn't matter regarding the edits.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f59491$1@linux...
>>>> So now the dumb question
>>>>
>>>> How does one use stereo plugins in Paris or is it possible?
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:49f56be2@linux...
>>>>> Yes, it's both mono and stereo. In stereo, if I remember correct,
>>>>> Paris must use channels 1-2, 3-4 and up as pair, not 2-3, 4-5 and up.
>>>>> But I believe that's the way Paris allways have worked with plugins in
>>>>> stereo channels.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good to hear your system now is stable and working as you wish and
>>>>> your wife didn't need to call an ambulance yesterday;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Erling
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>> news:49f4efc0@linux...
>>>>>> That Xlutop chainer looks pretty impressive...does it do both mono
>>>>>> and stereo plugs because the FFX4 is either mono or stereo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also tried Dimitrios' Avcon Digital and it seemed to do the trick
>>>>>> (at first glance) and I'll be looking at it again this evening.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bottom line is I have a stable setup, all the plugs are playing nice
>>>>>> with each other and I even have two ways to deal with latency, i.e.
>>>>>> Faderworks and Sample slide - both have their pros and cons but both
>>>>>> will be used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to all who called and submitted replies. You helped remove
>>>>>> that insane look in my eyes which had my wife seriously worried
>>>>>> yesterday
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hehehe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:49f4dc55@linux...
>>>>>>> Jeff, it seems to be different ways to do this. I just know that I
>>>>>>> have never disabled DirectX in Paris when using FXpansion 3.3
>>>>>>> wrapper in combination with "Xlutop Chainer". For me, it seems real
>>>>>>> logical, since FXpansion VST-DX Adapter/Wrapper is a DX plugin, that
>>>>>>> need an opn DX line to be used - and Chainer is a VST host that can
>>>>>>> show up VST plugins with the help of FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>>> The thing I remember making problems for me, was when Paris used its
>>>>>>> own VSTfolder in combination with FX and Chainer. Therefore I
>>>>>>> allways have VST folder in Paris.cfg disabled, so it is only Chainer
>>>>>>> that can find the VST plugin folder in Steinberg and FXpansion 3.3
>>>>>>> to find the Chainer.exe folder, that knows where the VST plugins
>>>>>>> are.
>>>>>>> I don't use FFX4 at all because I know "Xlutop Chainer" could open
>>>>>>> much more VST plugins on each Paris-channel for me. I have used this
>>>>>>> combination since Dimitros talked about "Xlutop Chainer" here - I
>>>>>>> believe it must be 6-7 years now - and I have been really happy with
>>>>>>> that "FXpansion 3.3-Xlutop Chainer"combination to use my VST
>>>>>>> plugins. I also know it's working well with Paris and my AMD Quad
>>>>>>> computer in Norway, with Mike Audet's new drivers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know we have written about wrapper combinations here up against
>>>>>>> the years, so if the archives are doing well and going back to the
>>>>>>> beginning of this century, it could be found something about it with
>>>>>>> some searching.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But as said, it seems to be different ways to do this. If it workes,
>>>>>>> it workes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>> news:49f4c405$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> THe way I remember it is a little different:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Disable Directx
>>>>>>>> -Put your wrapper and Faderworks in the VST folder identified in
>>>>>>>> the paris.cfg file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fire up Paris. You should be able to see the wrapper and
>>>>>>>> Fadersworks as native plugs. Load any dx/other vst plugs you want
>>>>>>>> in the wrapper. Set your delays in Faderworks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I remember, TOm Bruhl is the one acutally utilizing this most
>>>>>>>> (my rig is put away right now), so you might ping him specifically.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> JH
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Erling wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Don, are we talking about the same type of Chainer? FFX4 Chainer,
>>>>>>>>> isn't it Vince Burel's VST to DX wrapper?
>>>>>>>>> I'm talking about this Chainer:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html in combination with
>>>>>>>>> FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>>>>> Be sure there isn't any VST folder opened in Paris config file,
>>>>>>>>> it's just the Chainer who shall know that folder. I believe
>>>>>>>>> DirectX shall be enabled. You see FXpansion or FFX4 are making VST
>>>>>>>>> to DX, so I believe Paris should have DirectX enabled so the
>>>>>>>>> wrappers can find Paris as a DX user.
>>>>>>>>> I havn't used Faderworks but if it's a VSTplugin, I believe it
>>>>>>>>> shall be in the VST folder so Chainer can find and use it the way
>>>>>>>>> you want.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>> news:49f4ab69@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks Erling
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>DirectX is disabled in Paris
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD
>>>>>>>>>>plugins no problem.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or just
>>>>>>>>>>install it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed into
>>>>>>>>>>that folder or do I just install it where it want's to go and copy
>>>>>>>>>>over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in person
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>news:49f4a73e@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but I
>>>>>>>>>>>think I remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work in a
>>>>>>>>>>>good way. Don't use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion find
>>>>>>>>>>>Chainer and Chainer to find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then you
>>>>>>>>>>>can open Chainer in Paris VST/DX and use your VST plugins there,
>>>>>>>>>>>as far as I remember. I used my UAD card this way in Paris some
>>>>>>>>>>>years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Good luck
>>>>>>>>>>>Erling
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>>>>news:49f478da@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Need advice
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX plugs
>>>>>>>>>>>>on my Paris rig
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks, Sampleslide,
>>>>>>>>>>>>FFX4 Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but something is wonky
>>>>>>>>>>>>in my setup and it's probably my fault but I need to get this
>>>>>>>>>>>>sorted out soon. I have since uninstalled everything except my
>>>>>>>>>>>>UAD cards and am back to square one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>a blank canvass so to speak
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat would
>>>>>>>>>>>>be great and if you're up for it email me your phone # or Skype
>>>>>>>>>>>>ID and I'll get back to you pronto
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these goodies
>>>>>>>>>>>>on my computer?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital) do I
>>>>>>>>>>>>need the Fxpansion wrapper
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103327 is a reply to message #103325] |
Wed, 29 April 2009 11:52 |
dnafe
Messages: 390
Registered: February 2009
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Something about UAD plugins not loading properly or something like
that...one for each plugin
ARGH!
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49f8601c@linux...
> Hey Don,
>
> What did the pop errors say?
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f82524@linux...
>> For whatever reason enabling DX and removing the VST folder is Paris
>> config turns my Paris start up into a nightmare of pop up error windows
>> so I went back to disabling DX and pointing Paris to my VST folder to
>> take care of things.
>>
>> I'm not really happy with that ugly tan coloured interface that
>> accompanies each plugin as it eats up a lot of landscape on my monitors
>> but if that's the price I have to pay so be it...I'll get used to it in
>> time.
>>
>> I'm also using Faderworks in slot one and so far it's doing the job
>> nicely.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f5e059$1@linux...
>>> Thanks guys...gonna give it a go this afternoon
>>>
>>> Living dangerously
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:49f5cff2@linux...
>>>> Hey Don,
>>>>
>>>> Glad to hear things are coming together for you!
>>>>
>>>> When you open the native plugins list there's a little stereo box you
>>>> can check in the lower left hand corner. It chooses the
>>>> track to the right as the right channel. Sometimes Paris doesn't like
>>>> using paris mono effects with stereo natives though. It's helpful
>>>> to have the audio on the stereo tracks be exactly the same length
>>>> and with no edits. Sometimes it doesn't matter regarding the edits.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f59491$1@linux...
>>>>> So now the dumb question
>>>>>
>>>>> How does one use stereo plugins in Paris or is it possible?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Don
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:49f56be2@linux...
>>>>>> Yes, it's both mono and stereo. In stereo, if I remember correct,
>>>>>> Paris must use channels 1-2, 3-4 and up as pair, not 2-3, 4-5 and up.
>>>>>> But I believe that's the way Paris allways have worked with plugins
>>>>>> in stereo channels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good to hear your system now is stable and working as you wish and
>>>>>> your wife didn't need to call an ambulance yesterday;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>> news:49f4efc0@linux...
>>>>>>> That Xlutop chainer looks pretty impressive...does it do both mono
>>>>>>> and stereo plugs because the FFX4 is either mono or stereo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also tried Dimitrios' Avcon Digital and it seemed to do the trick
>>>>>>> (at first glance) and I'll be looking at it again this evening.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bottom line is I have a stable setup, all the plugs are playing nice
>>>>>>> with each other and I even have two ways to deal with latency, i.e.
>>>>>>> Faderworks and Sample slide - both have their pros and cons but both
>>>>>>> will be used.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks to all who called and submitted replies. You helped remove
>>>>>>> that insane look in my eyes which had my wife seriously worried
>>>>>>> yesterday
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hehehe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:49f4dc55@linux...
>>>>>>>> Jeff, it seems to be different ways to do this. I just know that I
>>>>>>>> have never disabled DirectX in Paris when using FXpansion 3.3
>>>>>>>> wrapper in combination with "Xlutop Chainer". For me, it seems real
>>>>>>>> logical, since FXpansion VST-DX Adapter/Wrapper is a DX plugin,
>>>>>>>> that need an opn DX line to be used - and Chainer is a VST host
>>>>>>>> that can show up VST plugins with the help of FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>>>> The thing I remember making problems for me, was when Paris used
>>>>>>>> its own VSTfolder in combination with FX and Chainer. Therefore I
>>>>>>>> allways have VST folder in Paris.cfg disabled, so it is only
>>>>>>>> Chainer that can find the VST plugin folder in Steinberg and
>>>>>>>> FXpansion 3.3 to find the Chainer.exe folder, that knows where the
>>>>>>>> VST plugins are.
>>>>>>>> I don't use FFX4 at all because I know "Xlutop Chainer" could open
>>>>>>>> much more VST plugins on each Paris-channel for me. I have used
>>>>>>>> this combination since Dimitros talked about "Xlutop Chainer"
>>>>>>>> here - I believe it must be 6-7 years now - and I have been really
>>>>>>>> happy with that "FXpansion 3.3-Xlutop Chainer"combination to use my
>>>>>>>> VST plugins. I also know it's working well with Paris and my AMD
>>>>>>>> Quad computer in Norway, with Mike Audet's new drivers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know we have written about wrapper combinations here up against
>>>>>>>> the years, so if the archives are doing well and going back to the
>>>>>>>> beginning of this century, it could be found something about it
>>>>>>>> with some searching.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But as said, it seems to be different ways to do this. If it
>>>>>>>> workes, it workes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>> news:49f4c405$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>> THe way I remember it is a little different:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Disable Directx
>>>>>>>>> -Put your wrapper and Faderworks in the VST folder identified in
>>>>>>>>> the paris.cfg file.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fire up Paris. You should be able to see the wrapper and
>>>>>>>>> Fadersworks as native plugs. Load any dx/other vst plugs you want
>>>>>>>>> in the wrapper. Set your delays in Faderworks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As I remember, TOm Bruhl is the one acutally utilizing this most
>>>>>>>>> (my rig is put away right now), so you might ping him
>>>>>>>>> specifically.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> JH
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Erling wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Don, are we talking about the same type of Chainer? FFX4 Chainer,
>>>>>>>>>> isn't it Vince Burel's VST to DX wrapper?
>>>>>>>>>> I'm talking about this Chainer:
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html in combination with
>>>>>>>>>> FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>>>>>> Be sure there isn't any VST folder opened in Paris config file,
>>>>>>>>>> it's just the Chainer who shall know that folder. I believe
>>>>>>>>>> DirectX shall be enabled. You see FXpansion or FFX4 are making
>>>>>>>>>> VST to DX, so I believe Paris should have DirectX enabled so the
>>>>>>>>>> wrappers can find Paris as a DX user.
>>>>>>>>>> I havn't used Faderworks but if it's a VSTplugin, I believe it
>>>>>>>>>> shall be in the VST folder so Chainer can find and use it the way
>>>>>>>>>> you want.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>>> news:49f4ab69@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks Erling
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>DirectX is disabled in Paris
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD
>>>>>>>>>>>plugins no problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or just
>>>>>>>>>>>install it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed into
>>>>>>>>>>>that folder or do I just install it where it want's to go and
>>>>>>>>>>>copy over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in person
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>news:49f4a73e@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>think I remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>good way. Don't use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion
>>>>>>>>>>>>find Chainer and Chainer to find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then
>>>>>>>>>>>>you can open Chainer in Paris VST/DX and use your VST plugins
>>>>>>>>>>>>there, as far as I remember. I used my UAD card this way in
>>>>>>>>>>>>Paris some years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Good luck
>>>>>>>>>>>>Erling
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>>>>>news:49f478da@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Need advice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX plugs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>on my Paris rig
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sampleslide, FFX4 Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>something is wonky in my setup and it's probably my fault but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>need to get this sorted out soon. I have since uninstalled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything except my UAD cards and am back to square one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>a blank canvass so to speak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>would be great and if you're up for it email me your phone # or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Skype ID and I'll get back to you pronto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these goodies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>on my computer?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital) do I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>need the Fxpansion wrapper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103330 is a reply to message #103322] |
Wed, 29 April 2009 17:52 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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Senior Member |
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fwiw, I use vst with no problems. I have a folder on the root level of my
C drive. inside that, I have 3 folders, named 1. VST plugs, 2. Powered plugins
3. non powered wrapped plugs.
I point the vst path in Paris to the folder 1.(vst plugs)
Folder 2. is the UAD Plugs, which get wrapped by the fxpansion wrapper. Folder
3 contains vst plugs that are problematic to paris, in vst world....usually
the newer ones are. I wrap folder 3 seperetly from folder 2. everything seems
to work pretty well....except sometimes I get unhandled exception errors
on starting or quiting a ppj that contains UAD plugs.
Hope that helps..if you need more personal assistance...you have my number
dude.
Rod
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote:
>For whatever reason enabling DX and removing the VST folder is Paris config
>turns my Paris start up into a nightmare of pop up error windows so I went
>back to disabling DX and pointing Paris to my VST folder to take care of
>things.
>
>I'm not really happy with that ugly tan coloured interface that accompanies
>each plugin as it eats up a lot of landscape on my monitors but if that's
>the price I have to pay so be it...I'll get used to it in time.
>
>I'm also using Faderworks in slot one and so far it's doing the job nicely.
>
>
>
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f5e059$1@linux...
>> Thanks guys...gonna give it a go this afternoon
>>
>> Living dangerously
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49f5cff2@linux...
>>> Hey Don,
>>>
>>> Glad to hear things are coming together for you!
>>>
>>> When you open the native plugins list there's a little stereo box you
>>> can check in the lower left hand corner. It chooses the
>>> track to the right as the right channel. Sometimes Paris doesn't like
>>> using paris mono effects with stereo natives though. It's helpful
>>> to have the audio on the stereo tracks be exactly the same length
>>> and with no edits. Sometimes it doesn't matter regarding the edits.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f59491$1@linux...
>>>> So now the dumb question
>>>>
>>>> How does one use stereo plugins in Paris or is it possible?
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f56be2@linux...
>>>>> Yes, it's both mono and stereo. In stereo, if I remember correct, Paris
>>>>> must use channels 1-2, 3-4 and up as pair, not 2-3, 4-5 and up. But
I
>>>>> believe that's the way Paris allways have worked with plugins in stereo
>>>>> channels.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good to hear your system now is stable and working as you wish and
your
>>>>> wife didn't need to call an ambulance yesterday;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Erling
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>> news:49f4efc0@linux...
>>>>>> That Xlutop chainer looks pretty impressive...does it do both mono
and
>>>>>> stereo plugs because the FFX4 is either mono or stereo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also tried Dimitrios' Avcon Digital and it seemed to do the trick
>>>>>> (at first glance) and I'll be looking at it again this evening.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bottom line is I have a stable setup, all the plugs are playing nice
>>>>>> with each other and I even have two ways to deal with latency, i.e.
>>>>>> Faderworks and Sample slide - both have their pros and cons but both
>>>>>> will be used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to all who called and submitted replies. You helped remove
that
>>>>>> insane look in my eyes which had my wife seriously worried yesterday
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hehehe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:49f4dc55@linux...
>>>>>>> Jeff, it seems to be different ways to do this. I just know that
I
>>>>>>> have never disabled DirectX in Paris when using FXpansion 3.3 wrapper
>>>>>>> in combination with "Xlutop Chainer". For me, it seems real logical,
>>>>>>> since FXpansion VST-DX Adapter/Wrapper is a DX plugin, that need
an
>>>>>>> opn DX line to be used - and Chainer is a VST host that can show
up
>>>>>>> VST plugins with the help of FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>>> The thing I remember making problems for me, was when Paris used
its
>>>>>>> own VSTfolder in combination with FX and Chainer. Therefore I allways
>>>>>>> have VST folder in Paris.cfg disabled, so it is only Chainer that
can
>>>>>>> find the VST plugin folder in Steinberg and FXpansion 3.3 to find
the
>>>>>>> Chainer.exe folder, that knows where the VST plugins are.
>>>>>>> I don't use FFX4 at all because I know "Xlutop Chainer" could open
>>>>>>> much more VST plugins on each Paris-channel for me. I have used this
>>>>>>> combination since Dimitros talked about "Xlutop Chainer" here - I
>>>>>>> believe it must be 6-7 years now - and I have been really happy with
>>>>>>> that "FXpansion 3.3-Xlutop Chainer"combination to use my VST plugins.
>>>>>>> I also know it's working well with Paris and my AMD Quad computer
in
>>>>>>> Norway, with Mike Audet's new drivers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know we have written about wrapper combinations here up against
the
>>>>>>> years, so if the archives are doing well and going back to the
>>>>>>> beginning of this century, it could be found something about it with
>>>>>>> some searching.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But as said, it seems to be different ways to do this. If it workes,
>>>>>>> it workes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>> news:49f4c405$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> THe way I remember it is a little different:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Disable Directx
>>>>>>>> -Put your wrapper and Faderworks in the VST folder identified in
the
>>>>>>>> paris.cfg file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fire up Paris. You should be able to see the wrapper and
>>>>>>>> Fadersworks as native plugs. Load any dx/other vst plugs you want
>>>>>>>> in the wrapper. Set your delays in Faderworks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I remember, TOm Bruhl is the one acutally utilizing this most
(my
>>>>>>>> rig is put away right now), so you might ping him specifically.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> JH
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Erling wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Don, are we talking about the same type of Chainer? FFX4 Chainer,
>>>>>>>>> isn't it Vince Burel's VST to DX wrapper?
>>>>>>>>> I'm talking about this Chainer:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html in combination with
>>>>>>>>> FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>>>>> Be sure there isn't any VST folder opened in Paris config file,
>>>>>>>>> it's just the Chainer who shall know that folder. I believe DirectX
>>>>>>>>> shall be enabled. You see FXpansion or FFX4 are making VST to DX,
>>>>>>>>> so I believe Paris should have DirectX enabled so the wrappers
can
>>>>>>>>> find Paris as a DX user.
>>>>>>>>> I havn't used Faderworks but if it's a VSTplugin, I believe it
>>>>>>>>> shall be in the VST folder so Chainer can find and use it the way
>>>>>>>>> you want.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>> news:49f4ab69@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks Erling
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>DirectX is disabled in Paris
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD
>>>>>>>>>>plugins no problem.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or just
>>>>>>>>>>install it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed into
>>>>>>>>>>that folder or do I just install it where it want's to go and copy
>>>>>>>>>>over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in person
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>news:49f4a73e@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but I
>>>>>>>>>>>think I remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work in
a
>>>>>>>>>>>good way. Don't use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion find
>>>>>>>>>>>Chainer and Chainer to find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then you
can
>>>>>>>>>>>open Chainer in Paris VST/DX and use your VST plugins there, as
>>>>>>>>>>>far as I remember. I used my UAD card this way in Paris some years
>>>>>>>>>>>ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Good luck
>>>>>>>>>>>Erling
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>>>>news:49f478da@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Need advice
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX plugs
>>>>>>>>>>>>on my Paris rig
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks, Sampleslide,
>>>>>>>>>>>>FFX4 Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but something is wonky
>>>>>>>>>>>>in my setup and it's probably my fault but I need to get this
>>>>>>>>>>>>sorted out soon. I have since uninstalled everything except
my
>>>>>>>>>>>>UAD cards and am back to square one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>a blank canvass so to speak
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat would
>>>>>>>>>>>>be great and if you're up for it email me your phone # or Skype
>>>>>>>>>>>>ID and I'll get back to you pronto
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these goodies
>>>>>>>>>>>>on my computer?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital) do I
>>>>>>>>>>>>need the Fxpansion wrapper
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing
up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103332 is a reply to message #103330] |
Thu, 30 April 2009 00:24 |
Erling
Messages: 156
Registered: October 2008
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Senior Member |
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Have you tested problematic vst plugins with Chainer in Paris? I seems to
remember most of the VST plugin-problems disappeared for me when using
Chainer and not Paris to open them.
Erling
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:49f8f634$1@linux...
>
> fwiw, I use vst with no problems. I have a folder on the root level of my
> C drive. inside that, I have 3 folders, named 1. VST plugs, 2. Powered
> plugins
> 3. non powered wrapped plugs.
> I point the vst path in Paris to the folder 1.(vst plugs)
> Folder 2. is the UAD Plugs, which get wrapped by the fxpansion wrapper.
> Folder
> 3 contains vst plugs that are problematic to paris, in vst
> world....usually
> the newer ones are. I wrap folder 3 seperetly from folder 2. everything
> seems
> to work pretty well....except sometimes I get unhandled exception errors
> on starting or quiting a ppj that contains UAD plugs.
> Hope that helps..if you need more personal assistance...you have my number
> dude.
> Rod
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote:
>>For whatever reason enabling DX and removing the VST folder is Paris
>>config
>
>>turns my Paris start up into a nightmare of pop up error windows so I went
>
>>back to disabling DX and pointing Paris to my VST folder to take care of
>
>>things.
>>
>>I'm not really happy with that ugly tan coloured interface that
>>accompanies
>
>>each plugin as it eats up a lot of landscape on my monitors but if that's
>
>>the price I have to pay so be it...I'll get used to it in time.
>>
>>I'm also using Faderworks in slot one and so far it's doing the job
>>nicely.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f5e059$1@linux...
>>> Thanks guys...gonna give it a go this afternoon
>>>
>>> Living dangerously
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:49f5cff2@linux...
>>>> Hey Don,
>>>>
>>>> Glad to hear things are coming together for you!
>>>>
>>>> When you open the native plugins list there's a little stereo box you
>>>> can check in the lower left hand corner. It chooses the
>>>> track to the right as the right channel. Sometimes Paris doesn't like
>>>> using paris mono effects with stereo natives though. It's helpful
>>>> to have the audio on the stereo tracks be exactly the same length
>>>> and with no edits. Sometimes it doesn't matter regarding the edits.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f59491$1@linux...
>>>>> So now the dumb question
>>>>>
>>>>> How does one use stereo plugins in Paris or is it possible?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Don
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:49f56be2@linux...
>>>>>> Yes, it's both mono and stereo. In stereo, if I remember correct,
>>>>>> Paris
>
>>>>>> must use channels 1-2, 3-4 and up as pair, not 2-3, 4-5 and up. But
> I
>>>>>> believe that's the way Paris allways have worked with plugins in
>>>>>> stereo
>
>>>>>> channels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good to hear your system now is stable and working as you wish and
> your
>>>>>> wife didn't need to call an ambulance yesterday;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>> news:49f4efc0@linux...
>>>>>>> That Xlutop chainer looks pretty impressive...does it do both mono
> and
>>>>>>> stereo plugs because the FFX4 is either mono or stereo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also tried Dimitrios' Avcon Digital and it seemed to do the trick
>
>>>>>>> (at first glance) and I'll be looking at it again this evening.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bottom line is I have a stable setup, all the plugs are playing nice
>
>>>>>>> with each other and I even have two ways to deal with latency, i.e.
>
>>>>>>> Faderworks and Sample slide - both have their pros and cons but both
>
>>>>>>> will be used.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks to all who called and submitted replies. You helped remove
> that
>>>>>>> insane look in my eyes which had my wife seriously worried yesterday
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hehehe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:49f4dc55@linux...
>>>>>>>> Jeff, it seems to be different ways to do this. I just know that
> I
>>>>>>>> have never disabled DirectX in Paris when using FXpansion 3.3
>>>>>>>> wrapper
>
>>>>>>>> in combination with "Xlutop Chainer". For me, it seems real
>>>>>>>> logical,
>
>>>>>>>> since FXpansion VST-DX Adapter/Wrapper is a DX plugin, that need
> an
>>>>>>>> opn DX line to be used - and Chainer is a VST host that can show
> up
>>>>>>>> VST plugins with the help of FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>>>> The thing I remember making problems for me, was when Paris used
> its
>>>>>>>> own VSTfolder in combination with FX and Chainer. Therefore I
>>>>>>>> allways
>
>>>>>>>> have VST folder in Paris.cfg disabled, so it is only Chainer that
> can
>>>>>>>> find the VST plugin folder in Steinberg and FXpansion 3.3 to find
> the
>>>>>>>> Chainer.exe folder, that knows where the VST plugins are.
>>>>>>>> I don't use FFX4 at all because I know "Xlutop Chainer" could open
>
>>>>>>>> much more VST plugins on each Paris-channel for me. I have used
>>>>>>>> this
>
>>>>>>>> combination since Dimitros talked about "Xlutop Chainer" here - I
>
>>>>>>>> believe it must be 6-7 years now - and I have been really happy
>>>>>>>> with
>
>>>>>>>> that "FXpansion 3.3-Xlutop Chainer"combination to use my VST
>>>>>>>> plugins.
>
>>>>>>>> I also know it's working well with Paris and my AMD Quad computer
> in
>>>>>>>> Norway, with Mike Audet's new drivers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know we have written about wrapper combinations here up against
> the
>>>>>>>> years, so if the archives are doing well and going back to the
>>>>>>>> beginning of this century, it could be found something about it
>>>>>>>> with
>
>>>>>>>> some searching.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But as said, it seems to be different ways to do this. If it
>>>>>>>> workes,
>
>>>>>>>> it workes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>> news:49f4c405$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>> THe way I remember it is a little different:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Disable Directx
>>>>>>>>> -Put your wrapper and Faderworks in the VST folder identified in
> the
>>>>>>>>> paris.cfg file.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fire up Paris. You should be able to see the wrapper and
>>>>>>>>> Fadersworks as native plugs. Load any dx/other vst plugs you want
>
>>>>>>>>> in the wrapper. Set your delays in Faderworks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As I remember, TOm Bruhl is the one acutally utilizing this most
> (my
>>>>>>>>> rig is put away right now), so you might ping him specifically.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> JH
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Erling wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Don, are we talking about the same type of Chainer? FFX4 Chainer,
>
>>>>>>>>>> isn't it Vince Burel's VST to DX wrapper?
>>>>>>>>>> I'm talking about this Chainer:
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html in combination with
>>>>>>>>>> FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>>>>>> Be sure there isn't any VST folder opened in Paris config file,
>
>>>>>>>>>> it's just the Chainer who shall know that folder. I believe
>>>>>>>>>> DirectX
>
>>>>>>>>>> shall be enabled. You see FXpansion or FFX4 are making VST to DX,
>
>>>>>>>>>> so I believe Paris should have DirectX enabled so the wrappers
> can
>>>>>>>>>> find Paris as a DX user.
>>>>>>>>>> I havn't used Faderworks but if it's a VSTplugin, I believe it
>
>>>>>>>>>> shall be in the VST folder so Chainer can find and use it the way
>
>>>>>>>>>> you want.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>>> news:49f4ab69@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks Erling
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>DirectX is disabled in Paris
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD
>>>>>>>>>>>plugins no problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or just
>
>>>>>>>>>>>install it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed into
>
>>>>>>>>>>>that folder or do I just install it where it want's to go and
>>>>>>>>>>>copy
>
>>>>>>>>>>>over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in person
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>news:49f4a73e@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but I
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>think I remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work in
> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>good way. Don't use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion
>>>>>>>>>>>>find
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Chainer and Chainer to find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then you
> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>open Chainer in Paris VST/DX and use your VST plugins there, as
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>far as I remember. I used my UAD card this way in Paris some
>>>>>>>>>>>>years
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Good luck
>>>>>>>>>>>>Erling
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>>>>>news:49f478da@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Need advice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX plugs
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>on my Paris rig
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sampleslide,
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>FFX4 Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but something is wonky
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>in my setup and it's probably my fault but I need to get this
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>sorted out soon. I have since uninstalled everything except
> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>UAD cards and am back to square one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>a blank canvass so to speak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>would
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>be great and if you're up for it email me your phone # or Skype
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>ID and I'll get back to you pronto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these goodies
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>on my computer?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital) do I
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>need the Fxpansion wrapper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing
> up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103334 is a reply to message #103332] |
Thu, 30 April 2009 02:59 |
dnafe
Messages: 390
Registered: February 2009
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Senior Member |
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As I mentioned this problem only shows up when I enable DirectX in
Paris...once disabled all is well
"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f957f5@linux...
> Have you tested problematic vst plugins with Chainer in Paris? I seems to
> remember most of the VST plugin-problems disappeared for me when using
> Chainer and not Paris to open them.
>
> Erling
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:49f8f634$1@linux...
>>
>> fwiw, I use vst with no problems. I have a folder on the root level of my
>> C drive. inside that, I have 3 folders, named 1. VST plugs, 2. Powered
>> plugins
>> 3. non powered wrapped plugs.
>> I point the vst path in Paris to the folder 1.(vst plugs)
>> Folder 2. is the UAD Plugs, which get wrapped by the fxpansion wrapper.
>> Folder
>> 3 contains vst plugs that are problematic to paris, in vst
>> world....usually
>> the newer ones are. I wrap folder 3 seperetly from folder 2. everything
>> seems
>> to work pretty well....except sometimes I get unhandled exception errors
>> on starting or quiting a ppj that contains UAD plugs.
>> Hope that helps..if you need more personal assistance...you have my
>> number
>> dude.
>> Rod
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>For whatever reason enabling DX and removing the VST folder is Paris
>>>config
>>
>>>turns my Paris start up into a nightmare of pop up error windows so I
>>>went
>>
>>>back to disabling DX and pointing Paris to my VST folder to take care of
>>
>>>things.
>>>
>>>I'm not really happy with that ugly tan coloured interface that
>>>accompanies
>>
>>>each plugin as it eats up a lot of landscape on my monitors but if that's
>>
>>>the price I have to pay so be it...I'll get used to it in time.
>>>
>>>I'm also using Faderworks in slot one and so far it's doing the job
>>>nicely.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f5e059$1@linux...
>>>> Thanks guys...gonna give it a go this afternoon
>>>>
>>>> Living dangerously
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:49f5cff2@linux...
>>>>> Hey Don,
>>>>>
>>>>> Glad to hear things are coming together for you!
>>>>>
>>>>> When you open the native plugins list there's a little stereo box you
>>>>> can check in the lower left hand corner. It chooses the
>>>>> track to the right as the right channel. Sometimes Paris doesn't like
>>>>> using paris mono effects with stereo natives though. It's helpful
>>>>> to have the audio on the stereo tracks be exactly the same length
>>>>> and with no edits. Sometimes it doesn't matter regarding the edits.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:49f59491$1@linux...
>>>>>> So now the dumb question
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How does one use stereo plugins in Paris or is it possible?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:49f56be2@linux...
>>>>>>> Yes, it's both mono and stereo. In stereo, if I remember correct,
>>>>>>> Paris
>>
>>>>>>> must use channels 1-2, 3-4 and up as pair, not 2-3, 4-5 and up. But
>> I
>>>>>>> believe that's the way Paris allways have worked with plugins in
>>>>>>> stereo
>>
>>>>>>> channels.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good to hear your system now is stable and working as you wish and
>> your
>>>>>>> wife didn't need to call an ambulance yesterday;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>> news:49f4efc0@linux...
>>>>>>>> That Xlutop chainer looks pretty impressive...does it do both mono
>> and
>>>>>>>> stereo plugs because the FFX4 is either mono or stereo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also tried Dimitrios' Avcon Digital and it seemed to do the trick
>>
>>>>>>>> (at first glance) and I'll be looking at it again this evening.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bottom line is I have a stable setup, all the plugs are playing
>>>>>>>> nice
>>
>>>>>>>> with each other and I even have two ways to deal with latency, i.e.
>>
>>>>>>>> Faderworks and Sample slide - both have their pros and cons but
>>>>>>>> both
>>
>>>>>>>> will be used.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks to all who called and submitted replies. You helped remove
>> that
>>>>>>>> insane look in my eyes which had my wife seriously worried
>>>>>>>> yesterday
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hehehe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:49f4dc55@linux...
>>>>>>>>> Jeff, it seems to be different ways to do this. I just know that
>> I
>>>>>>>>> have never disabled DirectX in Paris when using FXpansion 3.3
>>>>>>>>> wrapper
>>
>>>>>>>>> in combination with "Xlutop Chainer". For me, it seems real
>>>>>>>>> logical,
>>
>>>>>>>>> since FXpansion VST-DX Adapter/Wrapper is a DX plugin, that need
>> an
>>>>>>>>> opn DX line to be used - and Chainer is a VST host that can show
>> up
>>>>>>>>> VST plugins with the help of FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>>>>> The thing I remember making problems for me, was when Paris used
>> its
>>>>>>>>> own VSTfolder in combination with FX and Chainer. Therefore I
>>>>>>>>> allways
>>
>>>>>>>>> have VST folder in Paris.cfg disabled, so it is only Chainer that
>> can
>>>>>>>>> find the VST plugin folder in Steinberg and FXpansion 3.3 to find
>> the
>>>>>>>>> Chainer.exe folder, that knows where the VST plugins are.
>>>>>>>>> I don't use FFX4 at all because I know "Xlutop Chainer" could open
>>
>>>>>>>>> much more VST plugins on each Paris-channel for me. I have used
>>>>>>>>> this
>>
>>>>>>>>> combination since Dimitros talked about "Xlutop Chainer" here - I
>>
>>>>>>>>> believe it must be 6-7 years now - and I have been really happy
>>>>>>>>> with
>>
>>>>>>>>> that "FXpansion 3.3-Xlutop Chainer"combination to use my VST
>>>>>>>>> plugins.
>>
>>>>>>>>> I also know it's working well with Paris and my AMD Quad computer
>> in
>>>>>>>>> Norway, with Mike Audet's new drivers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know we have written about wrapper combinations here up against
>> the
>>>>>>>>> years, so if the archives are doing well and going back to the
>>>>>>>>> beginning of this century, it could be found something about it
>>>>>>>>> with
>>
>>>>>>>>> some searching.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But as said, it seems to be different ways to do this. If it
>>>>>>>>> workes,
>>
>>>>>>>>> it workes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>> news:49f4c405$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> THe way I remember it is a little different:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Disable Directx
>>>>>>>>>> -Put your wrapper and Faderworks in the VST folder identified in
>> the
>>>>>>>>>> paris.cfg file.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fire up Paris. You should be able to see the wrapper and
>>>>>>>>>> Fadersworks as native plugs. Load any dx/other vst plugs you
>>>>>>>>>> want
>>
>>>>>>>>>> in the wrapper. Set your delays in Faderworks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As I remember, TOm Bruhl is the one acutally utilizing this most
>> (my
>>>>>>>>>> rig is put away right now), so you might ping him specifically.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> JH
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Erling wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Don, are we talking about the same type of Chainer? FFX4
>>>>>>>>>>> Chainer,
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> isn't it Vince Burel's VST to DX wrapper?
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm talking about this Chainer:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html in combination with
>>>>>>>>>>> FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>>>>>>> Be sure there isn't any VST folder opened in Paris config file,
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> it's just the Chainer who shall know that folder. I believe
>>>>>>>>>>> DirectX
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> shall be enabled. You see FXpansion or FFX4 are making VST to
>>>>>>>>>>> DX,
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> so I believe Paris should have DirectX enabled so the wrappers
>> can
>>>>>>>>>>> find Paris as a DX user.
>>>>>>>>>>> I havn't used Faderworks but if it's a VSTplugin, I believe it
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> shall be in the VST folder so Chainer can find and use it the
>>>>>>>>>>> way
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>>>> news:49f4ab69@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks Erling
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>DirectX is disabled in Paris
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD
>>>>>>>>>>>>plugins no problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or
>>>>>>>>>>>>just
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>install it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed into
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>that folder or do I just install it where it want's to go and
>>>>>>>>>>>>copy
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in
>>>>>>>>>>>>person
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>news:49f4a73e@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but I
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>think I remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work in
>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>good way. Don't use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>find
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chainer and Chainer to find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then you
>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>open Chainer in Paris VST/DX and use your VST plugins there, as
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>far as I remember. I used my UAD card this way in Paris some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>years
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Good luck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Erling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:49f478da@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Need advice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>plugs
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on my Paris rig
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sampleslide,
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FFX4 Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but something is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wonky
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>in my setup and it's probably my fault but I need to get this
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sorted out soon. I have since uninstalled everything except
>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>UAD cards and am back to square one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a blank canvass so to speak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>would
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>be great and if you're up for it email me your phone # or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Skype
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ID and I'll get back to you pronto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>goodies
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on my computer?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital) do I
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>need the Fxpansion wrapper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing
>> up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103335 is a reply to message #103334] |
Thu, 30 April 2009 03:21 |
Erling
Messages: 156
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Good to hear Don, that it's now working well for you.
Sorry, if it wasn't clear enough but my question was to Rod, about his
problematic VST plugins, if he had tried them with Chainer in Paris.
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:49f97c66@linux...
> As I mentioned this problem only shows up when I enable DirectX in
> Paris...once disabled all is well
>
>
> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f957f5@linux...
>> Have you tested problematic vst plugins with Chainer in Paris? I seems to
>> remember most of the VST plugin-problems disappeared for me when using
>> Chainer and not Paris to open them.
>>
>> Erling
>>
>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>> news:49f8f634$1@linux...
>>>
>>> fwiw, I use vst with no problems. I have a folder on the root level of
>>> my
>>> C drive. inside that, I have 3 folders, named 1. VST plugs, 2. Powered
>>> plugins
>>> 3. non powered wrapped plugs.
>>> I point the vst path in Paris to the folder 1.(vst plugs)
>>> Folder 2. is the UAD Plugs, which get wrapped by the fxpansion wrapper.
>>> Folder
>>> 3 contains vst plugs that are problematic to paris, in vst
>>> world....usually
>>> the newer ones are. I wrap folder 3 seperetly from folder 2. everything
>>> seems
>>> to work pretty well....except sometimes I get unhandled exception errors
>>> on starting or quiting a ppj that contains UAD plugs.
>>> Hope that helps..if you need more personal assistance...you have my
>>> number
>>> dude.
>>> Rod
>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>>For whatever reason enabling DX and removing the VST folder is Paris
>>>>config
>>>
>>>>turns my Paris start up into a nightmare of pop up error windows so I
>>>>went
>>>
>>>>back to disabling DX and pointing Paris to my VST folder to take care of
>>>
>>>>things.
>>>>
>>>>I'm not really happy with that ugly tan coloured interface that
>>>>accompanies
>>>
>>>>each plugin as it eats up a lot of landscape on my monitors but if
>>>>that's
>>>
>>>>the price I have to pay so be it...I'll get used to it in time.
>>>>
>>>>I'm also using Faderworks in slot one and so far it's doing the job
>>>>nicely.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f5e059$1@linux...
>>>>> Thanks guys...gonna give it a go this afternoon
>>>>>
>>>>> Living dangerously
>>>>>
>>>>> Don
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:49f5cff2@linux...
>>>>>> Hey Don,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Glad to hear things are coming together for you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you open the native plugins list there's a little stereo box you
>>>>>> can check in the lower left hand corner. It chooses the
>>>>>> track to the right as the right channel. Sometimes Paris doesn't
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> using paris mono effects with stereo natives though. It's helpful
>>>>>> to have the audio on the stereo tracks be exactly the same length
>>>>>> and with no edits. Sometimes it doesn't matter regarding the edits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:49f59491$1@linux...
>>>>>>> So now the dumb question
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How does one use stereo plugins in Paris or is it possible?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:49f56be2@linux...
>>>>>>>> Yes, it's both mono and stereo. In stereo, if I remember correct,
>>>>>>>> Paris
>>>
>>>>>>>> must use channels 1-2, 3-4 and up as pair, not 2-3, 4-5 and up. But
>>> I
>>>>>>>> believe that's the way Paris allways have worked with plugins in
>>>>>>>> stereo
>>>
>>>>>>>> channels.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good to hear your system now is stable and working as you wish and
>>> your
>>>>>>>> wife didn't need to call an ambulance yesterday;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>> news:49f4efc0@linux...
>>>>>>>>> That Xlutop chainer looks pretty impressive...does it do both mono
>>> and
>>>>>>>>> stereo plugs because the FFX4 is either mono or stereo.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I also tried Dimitrios' Avcon Digital and it seemed to do the
>>>>>>>>> trick
>>>
>>>>>>>>> (at first glance) and I'll be looking at it again this evening.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bottom line is I have a stable setup, all the plugs are playing
>>>>>>>>> nice
>>>
>>>>>>>>> with each other and I even have two ways to deal with latency,
>>>>>>>>> i.e.
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Faderworks and Sample slide - both have their pros and cons but
>>>>>>>>> both
>>>
>>>>>>>>> will be used.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks to all who called and submitted replies. You helped remove
>>> that
>>>>>>>>> insane look in my eyes which had my wife seriously worried
>>>>>>>>> yesterday
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hehehe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:49f4dc55@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> Jeff, it seems to be different ways to do this. I just know that
>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> have never disabled DirectX in Paris when using FXpansion 3.3
>>>>>>>>>> wrapper
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> in combination with "Xlutop Chainer". For me, it seems real
>>>>>>>>>> logical,
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> since FXpansion VST-DX Adapter/Wrapper is a DX plugin, that need
>>> an
>>>>>>>>>> opn DX line to be used - and Chainer is a VST host that can show
>>> up
>>>>>>>>>> VST plugins with the help of FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>>>>>> The thing I remember making problems for me, was when Paris used
>>> its
>>>>>>>>>> own VSTfolder in combination with FX and Chainer. Therefore I
>>>>>>>>>> allways
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> have VST folder in Paris.cfg disabled, so it is only Chainer that
>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> find the VST plugin folder in Steinberg and FXpansion 3.3 to find
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> Chainer.exe folder, that knows where the VST plugins are.
>>>>>>>>>> I don't use FFX4 at all because I know "Xlutop Chainer" could
>>>>>>>>>> open
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> much more VST plugins on each Paris-channel for me. I have used
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> combination since Dimitros talked about "Xlutop Chainer" here - I
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> believe it must be 6-7 years now - and I have been really happy
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> that "FXpansion 3.3-Xlutop Chainer"combination to use my VST
>>>>>>>>>> plugins.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I also know it's working well with Paris and my AMD Quad computer
>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> Norway, with Mike Audet's new drivers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I know we have written about wrapper combinations here up against
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> years, so if the archives are doing well and going back to the
>>>>>>>>>> beginning of this century, it could be found something about it
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> some searching.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But as said, it seems to be different ways to do this. If it
>>>>>>>>>> workes,
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it workes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>>> news:49f4c405$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> THe way I remember it is a little different:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Disable Directx
>>>>>>>>>>> -Put your wrapper and Faderworks in the VST folder identified in
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> paris.cfg file.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Fire up Paris. You should be able to see the wrapper and
>>>>>>>>>>> Fadersworks as native plugs. Load any dx/other vst plugs you
>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> in the wrapper. Set your delays in Faderworks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As I remember, TOm Bruhl is the one acutally utilizing this most
>>> (my
>>>>>>>>>>> rig is put away right now), so you might ping him specifically.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> JH
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Erling wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, are we talking about the same type of Chainer? FFX4
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chainer,
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't it Vince Burel's VST to DX wrapper?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm talking about this Chainer:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html in combination with
>>>>>>>>>>>> FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Be sure there isn't any VST folder opened in Paris config file,
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> it's just the Chainer who shall know that folder. I believe
>>>>>>>>>>>> DirectX
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> shall be enabled. You see FXpansion or FFX4 are making VST to
>>>>>>>>>>>> DX,
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> so I believe Paris should have DirectX enabled so the wrappers
>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>> find Paris as a DX user.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I havn't used Faderworks but if it's a VSTplugin, I believe it
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> shall be in the VST folder so Chainer can find and use it the
>>>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:49f4ab69@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks Erling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>DirectX is disabled in Paris
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>plugins no problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>just
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>install it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>into
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>that folder or do I just install it where it want's to go and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>copy
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>person
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:49f4a73e@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but I
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>think I remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work in
>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>good way. Don't use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>find
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chainer and Chainer to find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then you
>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>open Chainer in Paris VST/DX and use your VST plugins there,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>as
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>far as I remember. I used my UAD card this way in Paris some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>years
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Good luck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Erling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:49f478da@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Need advice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>plugs
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on my Paris rig
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sampleslide,
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FFX4 Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but something is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wonky
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>in my setup and it's probably my fault but I need to get this
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sorted out soon. I have since uninstalled everything except
>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>UAD cards and am back to square one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a blank canvass so to speak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>would
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>be great and if you're up for it email me your phone # or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Skype
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ID and I'll get back to you pronto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>goodies
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on my computer?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital) do I
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>need the Fxpansion wrapper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing
>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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| Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103341 is a reply to message #103335] |
Thu, 30 April 2009 14:32 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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Senior Member |
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No...I haven't gottn around to trying that yet...thanks, I'll have to do that.
:-)
Rod
"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>Good to hear Don, that it's now working well for you.
>Sorry, if it wasn't clear enough but my question was to Rod, about his
>problematic VST plugins, if he had tried them with Chainer in Paris.
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:49f97c66@linux...
>> As I mentioned this problem only shows up when I enable DirectX in
>> Paris...once disabled all is well
>>
>>
>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f957f5@linux...
>>> Have you tested problematic vst plugins with Chainer in Paris? I seems
to
>>> remember most of the VST plugin-problems disappeared for me when using
>>> Chainer and not Paris to open them.
>>>
>>> Erling
>>>
>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>> news:49f8f634$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> fwiw, I use vst with no problems. I have a folder on the root level
of
>>>> my
>>>> C drive. inside that, I have 3 folders, named 1. VST plugs, 2. Powered
>>>> plugins
>>>> 3. non powered wrapped plugs.
>>>> I point the vst path in Paris to the folder 1.(vst plugs)
>>>> Folder 2. is the UAD Plugs, which get wrapped by the fxpansion wrapper.
>>>> Folder
>>>> 3 contains vst plugs that are problematic to paris, in vst
>>>> world....usually
>>>> the newer ones are. I wrap folder 3 seperetly from folder 2. everything
>>>> seems
>>>> to work pretty well....except sometimes I get unhandled exception errors
>>>> on starting or quiting a ppj that contains UAD plugs.
>>>> Hope that helps..if you need more personal assistance...you have my
>>>> number
>>>> dude.
>>>> Rod
>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>>>For whatever reason enabling DX and removing the VST folder is Paris
>>>>>config
>>>>
>>>>>turns my Paris start up into a nightmare of pop up error windows so
I
>>>>>went
>>>>
>>>>>back to disabling DX and pointing Paris to my VST folder to take care
of
>>>>
>>>>>things.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not really happy with that ugly tan coloured interface that
>>>>>accompanies
>>>>
>>>>>each plugin as it eats up a lot of landscape on my monitors but if
>>>>>that's
>>>>
>>>>>the price I have to pay so be it...I'll get used to it in time.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm also using Faderworks in slot one and so far it's doing the job
>>>>>nicely.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f5e059$1@linux...
>>>>>> Thanks guys...gonna give it a go this afternoon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Living dangerously
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:49f5cff2@linux...
>>>>>>> Hey Don,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Glad to hear things are coming together for you!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When you open the native plugins list there's a little stereo box
you
>>>>>>> can check in the lower left hand corner. It chooses the
>>>>>>> track to the right as the right channel. Sometimes Paris doesn't
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> using paris mono effects with stereo natives though. It's helpful
>>>>>>> to have the audio on the stereo tracks be exactly the same length
>>>>>>> and with no edits. Sometimes it doesn't matter regarding the edits.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:49f59491$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> So now the dumb question
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How does one use stereo plugins in Paris or is it possible?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:49f56be2@linux...
>>>>>>>>> Yes, it's both mono and stereo. In stereo, if I remember correct,
>>>>>>>>> Paris
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> must use channels 1-2, 3-4 and up as pair, not 2-3, 4-5 and up.
But
>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> believe that's the way Paris allways have worked with plugins in
>>>>>>>>> stereo
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> channels.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good to hear your system now is stable and working as you wish
and
>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> wife didn't need to call an ambulance yesterday;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>> news:49f4efc0@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> That Xlutop chainer looks pretty impressive...does it do both
mono
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> stereo plugs because the FFX4 is either mono or stereo.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I also tried Dimitrios' Avcon Digital and it seemed to do the
>>>>>>>>>> trick
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (at first glance) and I'll be looking at it again this evening.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bottom line is I have a stable setup, all the plugs are playing
>>>>>>>>>> nice
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> with each other and I even have two ways to deal with latency,
>>>>>>>>>> i.e.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Faderworks and Sample slide - both have their pros and cons but
>>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> will be used.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to all who called and submitted replies. You helped remove
>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> insane look in my eyes which had my wife seriously worried
>>>>>>>>>> yesterday
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hehehe
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:49f4dc55@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff, it seems to be different ways to do this. I just know that
>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> have never disabled DirectX in Paris when using FXpansion 3.3
>>>>>>>>>>> wrapper
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> in combination with "Xlutop Chainer". For me, it seems real
>>>>>>>>>>> logical,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> since FXpansion VST-DX Adapter/Wrapper is a DX plugin, that need
>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>> opn DX line to be used - and Chainer is a VST host that can show
>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>> VST plugins with the help of FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>>>>>>> The thing I remember making problems for me, was when Paris used
>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>>> own VSTfolder in combination with FX and Chainer. Therefore I
>>>>>>>>>>> allways
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> have VST folder in Paris.cfg disabled, so it is only Chainer
that
>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>> find the VST plugin folder in Steinberg and FXpansion 3.3 to
find
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> Chainer.exe folder, that knows where the VST plugins are.
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't use FFX4 at all because I know "Xlutop Chainer" could
>>>>>>>>>>> open
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> much more VST plugins on each Paris-channel for me. I have used
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> combination since Dimitros talked about "Xlutop Chainer" here
- I
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> believe it must be 6-7 years now - and I have been really happy
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> that "FXpansion 3.3-Xlutop Chainer"combination to use my VST
>>>>>>>>>>> plugins.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I also know it's working well with Paris and my AMD Quad computer
>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> Norway, with Mike Audet's new drivers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I know we have written about wrapper combinations here up against
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> years, so if the archives are doing well and going back to the
>>>>>>>>>>> beginning of this century, it could be found something about
it
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> some searching.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But as said, it seems to be different ways to do this. If it
>>>>>>>>>>> workes,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> it workes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>>>> news:49f4c405$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>> THe way I remember it is a little different:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Disable Directx
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Put your wrapper and Faderworks in the VST folder identified
in
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> paris.cfg file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fire up Paris. You should be able to see the wrapper and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fadersworks as native plugs. Load any dx/other vst plugs you
>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> in the wrapper. Set your delays in Faderworks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As I remember, TOm Bruhl is the one acutally utilizing this
most
>>>> (my
>>>>>>>>>>>> rig is put away right now), so you might ping him specifically.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> JH
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Erling wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, are we talking about the same type of Chainer? FFX4
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chainer,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't it Vince Burel's VST to DX wrapper?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm talking about this Chainer:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html in combination with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Be sure there isn't any VST folder opened in Paris config file,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's just the Chainer who shall know that folder. I believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DirectX
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shall be enabled. You see FXpansion or FFX4 are making VST
to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DX,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I believe Paris should have DirectX enabled so the wrappers
>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> find Paris as a DX user.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I havn't used Faderworks but if it's a VSTplugin, I believe
it
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shall be in the VST folder so Chainer can find and use it the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:49f4ab69@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks Erling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DirectX is disabled in Paris
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>plugins no problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>just
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>install it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>into
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that folder or do I just install it where it want's to go and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>copy
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>person
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:49f4a73e@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but
I
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>think I remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work
in
>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>good way. Don't use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>find
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chainer and Chainer to find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then
you
>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>open Chainer in Paris VST/DX and use your VST plugins there,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>as
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>far as I remember. I used my UAD card this way in Paris some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>years
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Good luck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Erling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:49f478da@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Need advice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>plugs
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on my Paris rig
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sampleslide,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FFX4 Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but something is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wonky
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>in my setup and it's probably my fault but I need to get
this
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sorted out soon. I have since uninstalled everything except
>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>UAD cards and am back to square one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a blank canvass so to speak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>would
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>be great and if you're up for it email me your phone # or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Skype
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ID and I'll get back to you pronto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>goodies
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on my computer?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital)
do I
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>need the Fxpansion wrapper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing
>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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