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- OK, I"m pretty confident this one doesn't suck [message #80408] Tue, 20 February 2007 20:59 Go to next message
Paul Braun is currently offline  Paul Braun   UNITED STATES
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Was experimenting with different mixes from the last concert recording
I did.

Tracked straight from mixer inserts. Vocal mic was a 58 (her own mic
- my preference would have been my AT AE5400, but she had a bit of a
cold and didn't want to get germs on the main mics as she was the
opener for Kasim Sulton).

All Paris - all EDS inserts. Put NoLimit on her vocal and just
spanked the meter - voice just got fuller and ballsier the harder I
pushed it. Now I know what you guys were talking about. Final mix was
run through the Wavelab multiband.

Piano was a digital - the one thing you need to remember is that she
called me in a panic on the Tuesday before the gig because the two
guitar players she normally uses both had medical emergencies, and she
was without an accompianist.

The piano player she finally found had one day to listen to the mp3's
she sent, and 20 minutes before the doors opened to run through the
songs with her. Had never heard them before.

Damn, it's fun working with real professionals.

Anyhow, tell me what you think. A few extraneous noises, but it's a
live recording.

www.ctgonline.org/paul/open_arms.mp3

pab
- Re: OK, I"m pretty confident this one doesn't suck [message #80410 is a reply to message #80408] Tue, 20 February 2007 22:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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That's Paris! It sounds great!

James

Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>Was experimenting with different mixes from the last concert recording
>I did.
>
>Tracked straight from mixer inserts. Vocal mic was a 58 (her own mic
>- my preference would have been my AT AE5400, but she had a bit of a
>cold and didn't want to get germs on the main mics as she was the
>opener for Kasim Sulton).
>
>All Paris - all EDS inserts. Put NoLimit on her vocal and just
>spanked the meter - voice just got fuller and ballsier the harder I
>pushed it. Now I know what you guys were talking about. Final mix was
>run through the Wavelab multiband.
>
>Piano was a digital - the one thing you need to remember is that she
>called me in a panic on the Tuesday before the gig because the two
>guitar players she normally uses both had medical emergencies, and she
>was without an accompianist.
>
>The piano player she finally found had one day to listen to the mp3's
>she sent, and 20 minutes before the doors opened to run through the
>songs with her. Had never heard them before.
>
>Damn, it's fun working with real professionals.
>
>Anyhow, tell me what you think. A few extraneous noises, but it's a
>live recording.
>
>www.ctgonline.org/paul/open_arms.mp3
>
>pab
- Re: OK, I"m pretty confident this one doesn't suck [message #80411 is a reply to message #80410] Tue, 20 February 2007 22:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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By the way Paul, good work!

James

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> That's Paris! It sounds great!
>
>James
>
>Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>Was experimenting with different mixes from the last concert recording
>>I did.
>>
>>Tracked straight from mixer inserts. Vocal mic was a 58 (her own mic
>>- my preference would have been my AT AE5400, but she had a bit of a
>>cold and didn't want to get germs on the main mics as she was the
>>opener for Kasim Sulton).
>>
>>All Paris - all EDS inserts. Put NoLimit on her vocal and just
>>spanked the meter - voice just got fuller and ballsier the harder I
>>pushed it. Now I know what you guys were talking about. Final mix was
>>run through the Wavelab multiband.
>>
>>Piano was a digital - the one thing you need to remember is that she
>>called me in a panic on the Tuesday before the gig because the two
>>guitar players she normally uses both had medical emergencies, and she
>>was without an accompianist.
>>
>>The piano player she finally found had one day to listen to the mp3's
>>she sent, and 20 minutes before the doors opened to run through the
>>songs with her. Had never heard them before.
>>
>>Damn, it's fun working with real professionals.
>>
>>Anyhow, tell me what you think. A few extraneous noises, but it's a
>>live recording.
>>
>>www.ctgonline.org/paul/open_arms.mp3
>>
>>pab
>
- Re: OK, I"m pretty confident this one doesn't suck [message #80412 is a reply to message #80408] Tue, 20 February 2007 22:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gene lennon is currently offline  gene lennon
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Nice job Paul. Who is the artist? She sounds very strong.
Gene

Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>Was experimenting with different mixes from the last concert recording
>I did.
>
>Tracked straight from mixer inserts. Vocal mic was a 58 (her own mic
>- my preference would have been my AT AE5400, but she had a bit of a
>cold and didn't want to get germs on the main mics as she was the
>opener for Kasim Sulton).
>
>All Paris - all EDS inserts. Put NoLimit on her vocal and just
>spanked the meter - voice just got fuller and ballsier the harder I
>pushed it. Now I know what you guys were talking about. Final mix was
>run through the Wavelab multiband.
>
>Piano was a digital - the one thing you need to remember is that she
>called me in a panic on the Tuesday before the gig because the two
>guitar players she normally uses both had medical emergencies, and she
>was without an accompianist.
>
>The piano player she finally found had one day to listen to the mp3's
>she sent, and 20 minutes before the doors opened to run through the
>songs with her. Had never heard them before.
>
>Damn, it's fun working with real professionals.
>
>Anyhow, tell me what you think. A few extraneous noises, but it's a
>live recording.
>
>www.ctgonline.org/paul/open_arms.mp3
>
>pab
- Re: OK, I"m pretty confident this one doesn't suck [message #80414 is a reply to message #80411] Tue, 20 February 2007 21:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Braun is currently offline  Paul Braun   UNITED STATES
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On 21 Feb 2007 16:22:56 +1000, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>By the way Paul, good work!
>
>James

Thanks!

In case you're wondering, her name is Lisa McClowry -
www.lisamcclowry.com is her site.

Yes, she's that hot. And that talented. And happily married, so stop
that.....

pab
- Re: OK, I"m pretty confident this one doesn't suck [message #80415 is a reply to message #80408] Tue, 20 February 2007 22:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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NIIIIIIICE!

Just wondering - can you get rid of a bit of the sibilance if
you back off spanking the NoLimit a bit?

Nice sound, nice tune, and nice singing. Five thumbs up! :D

Neil




Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>Was experimenting with different mixes from the last concert recording
>I did.
>
>Tracked straight from mixer inserts. Vocal mic was a 58 (her own mic
>- my preference would have been my AT AE5400, but she had a bit of a
>cold and didn't want to get germs on the main mics as she was the
>opener for Kasim Sulton).
>
>All Paris - all EDS inserts. Put NoLimit on her vocal and just
>spanked the meter - voice just got fuller and ballsier the harder I
>pushed it. Now I know what you guys were talking about. Final mix was
>run through the Wavelab multiband.
>
>Piano was a digital - the one thing you need to remember is that she
>called me in a panic on the Tuesday before the gig because the two
>guitar players she normally uses both had medical emergencies, and she
>was without an accompianist.
>
>The piano player she finally found had one day to listen to the mp3's
>she sent, and 20 minutes before the doors opened to run through the
>songs with her. Had never heard them before.
>
>Damn, it's fun working with real professionals.
>
>Anyhow, tell me what you think. A few extraneous noises, but it's a
>live recording.
>
>www.ctgonline.org/paul/open_arms.mp3
>
>pab
- Re: OK, I"m pretty confident this one doesn't suck [message #80417 is a reply to message #80415] Tue, 20 February 2007 22:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Betcha that's the 58.. man, that 3k boost is a killer on those things.
Multiband limiting or de essing before no limit is probably gonna be the fix
there.

AA

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OU.com> wrote in message news:45dbdab4$1@linux...
>
> NIIIIIIICE!
>
> Just wondering - can you get rid of a bit of the sibilance if
> you back off spanking the NoLimit a bit?
>
> Nice sound, nice tune, and nice singing. Five thumbs up! :D
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
> Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>Was experimenting with different mixes from the last concert recording
>>I did.
>>
>>Tracked straight from mixer inserts. Vocal mic was a 58 (her own mic
>>- my preference would have been my AT AE5400, but she had a bit of a
>>cold and didn't want to get germs on the main mics as she was the
>>opener for Kasim Sulton).
>>
>>All Paris - all EDS inserts. Put NoLimit on her vocal and just
>>spanked the meter - voice just got fuller and ballsier the harder I
>>pushed it. Now I know what you guys were talking about. Final mix was
>>run through the Wavelab multiband.
>>
>>Piano was a digital - the one thing you need to remember is that she
>>called me in a panic on the Tuesday before the gig because the two
>>guitar players she normally uses both had medical emergencies, and she
>>was without an accompianist.
>>
>>The piano player she finally found had one day to listen to the mp3's
>>she sent, and 20 minutes before the doors opened to run through the
>>songs with her. Had never heard them before.
>>
>>Damn, it's fun working with real professionals.
>>
>>Anyhow, tell me what you think. A few extraneous noises, but it's a
>>live recording.
>>
>>www.ctgonline.org/paul/open_arms.mp3
>>
>>pab
>
- Re: OK, I"m pretty confident this one doesn't suck [message #80418 is a reply to message #80417] Tue, 20 February 2007 23:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nil is currently offline  Nil
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Registered: March 2007
Senior Member
Well, de-essing would be the obvious thing, but her voice
sounds so good, I'd hate to mess with any of the freqs at ALL,
and you know how sibilance can get worse with
compression/limiting...

....just a thought.

Neil

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Betcha that's the 58.. man, that 3k boost is a killer on those things.
>Multiband limiting or de essing before no limit is probably gonna be the
fix
>there.
>
>AA
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OU.com> wrote in message news:45dbdab4$1@linux...
>>
>> NIIIIIIICE!
>>
>> Just wondering - can you get rid of a bit of the sibilance if
>> you back off spanking the NoLimit a bit?
>>
>> Nice sound, nice tune, and nice singing. Five thumbs up! :D
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>>Was experimenting with different mixes from the last concert recording
>>>I did.
>>>
>>>Tracked straight from mixer inserts. Vocal mic was a 58 (her own mic
>>>- my preference would have been my AT AE5400, but she had a bit of a
>>>cold and didn't want to get germs on the main mics as she was the
>>>opener for Kasim Sulton).
>>>
>>>All Paris - all EDS inserts. Put NoLimit on her vocal and just
>>>spanked the meter - voice just got fuller and ballsier the harder I
>>>pushed it. Now I know what you guys were talking about. Final mix was
>>>run through the Wavelab multiband.
>>>
>>>Piano was a digital - the one thing you need to remember is that she
>>>called me in a panic on the Tuesday before the gig because the two
>>>guitar players she normally uses both had medical emergencies, and she
>>>was without an accompianist.
>>>
>>>The piano player she finally found had one day to listen to the mp3's
>>>she sent, and 20 minutes before the doors opened to run through the
>>>songs with her. Had never heard them before.
>>>
>>>Damn, it's fun working with real professionals.
>>>
>>>Anyhow, tell me what you think. A few extraneous noises, but it's a
>>>live recording.
>>>
>>>www.ctgonline.org/paul/open_arms.mp3
>>>
>>>pab
>>
>
>
- Re: OK, I"m pretty confident this one doesn't suck [message #80419 is a reply to message #80418] Tue, 20 February 2007 22:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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Yeah, when it gets that ugly it's a retake or I back the comp/limit off and
do a fader ride. Still, pretty nice vocalist and kudos to the player for
swaggering up to the trough with that amount of practice time. Aren't too
many cats like that left in the world.

AA


"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45dbe0d3$1@linux...
>
> Well, de-essing would be the obvious thing, but her voice
> sounds so good, I'd hate to mess with any of the freqs at ALL,
> and you know how sibilance can get worse with
> compression/limiting...
>
> ...just a thought.
>
> Neil
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Betcha that's the 58.. man, that 3k boost is a killer on those things.
>>Multiband limiting or de essing before no limit is probably gonna be the
> fix
>>there.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OU.com> wrote in message news:45dbdab4$1@linux...
>>>
>>> NIIIIIIICE!
>>>
>>> Just wondering - can you get rid of a bit of the sibilance if
>>> you back off spanking the NoLimit a bit?
>>>
>>> Nice sound, nice tune, and nice singing. Five thumbs up! :D
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>>>Was experimenting with different mixes from the last concert recording
>>>>I did.
>>>>
>>>>Tracked straight from mixer inserts. Vocal mic was a 58 (her own mic
>>>>- my preference would have been my AT AE5400, but she had a bit of a
>>>>cold and didn't want to get germs on the main mics as she was the
>>>>opener for Kasim Sulton).
>>>>
>>>>All Paris - all EDS inserts. Put NoLimit on her vocal and just
>>>>spanked the meter - voice just got fuller and ballsier the harder I
>>>>pushed it. Now I know what you guys were talking about. Final mix was
>>>>run through the Wavelab multiband.
>>>>
>>>>Piano was a digital - the one thing you need to remember is that she
>>>>called me in a panic on the Tuesday before the gig because the two
>>>>guitar players she normally uses both had medical emergencies, and she
>>>>was without an accompianist.
>>>>
>>>>The piano player she finally found had one day to listen to the mp3's
>>>>she sent, and 20 minutes before the doors opened to run through the
>>>>songs with her. Had never heard them before.
>>>>
>>>>Damn, it's fun working with real professionals.
>>>>
>>>>Anyhow, tell me what you think. A few extraneous noises, but it's a
>>>>live recording.
>>>>
>>>>www.ctgonline.org/paul/open_arms.mp3
>>>>
>>>>pab
>>>
>>
>>
>
- Re: OK, I"m pretty confident this one doesn't suck [message #80420 is a reply to message #80419] Tue, 20 February 2007 23:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
neil[1] is currently offline  neil[1]
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I like her voice A LOT... and I can't imagine that song with
a guitar or two - it's perfect for piano just the way it is; or
at least a piano-based arrangment, not guitar-based.

Paul did she write that? That's a a great song, too - I must've
listened to that clip like ten times.

Neil



"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Yeah, when it gets that ugly it's a retake or I back the comp/limit off
and
>do a fader ride. Still, pretty nice vocalist and kudos to the player for

>swaggering up to the trough with that amount of practice time. Aren't too

>many cats like that left in the world.
>
>AA
>
>
>"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45dbe0d3$1@linux...
>>
>> Well, de-essing would be the obvious thing, but her voice
>> sounds so good, I'd hate to mess with any of the freqs at ALL,
>> and you know how sibilance can get worse with
>> compression/limiting...
>>
>> ...just a thought.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>Betcha that's the 58.. man, that 3k boost is a killer on those things.
>>>Multiband limiting or de essing before no limit is probably gonna be the
>> fix
>>>there.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OU.com> wrote in message news:45dbdab4$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> NIIIIIIICE!
>>>>
>>>> Just wondering - can you get rid of a bit of the sibilance if
>>>> you back off spanking the NoLimit a bit?
>>>>
>>>> Nice sound, nice tune, and nice singing. Five thumbs up! :D
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>>>>Was experimenting with different mixes from the last concert recording
>>>>>I did.
>>>>>
>>>>>Tracked straight from mixer inserts. Vocal mic was a 58 (her own mic
>>>>>- my preference would have been my AT AE5400, but she had a bit of a
>>>>>cold and didn't want to get germs on the main mics as she was the
>>>>>opener for Kasim Sulton).
>>>>>
>>>>>All Paris - all EDS inserts. Put NoLimit on her vocal and just
>>>>>spanked the meter - voice just got fuller and ballsier the harder I
>>>>>pushed it. Now I know what you guys were talking about. Final mix was
>>>>>run through the Wavelab multiband.
>>>>>
>>>>>Piano was a digital - the one thing you need to remember is that she
>>>>>called me in a panic on the Tuesday before the gig because the two
>>>>>guitar players she normally uses both had medical emergencies, and she
>>>>>was without an accompianist.
>>>>>
>>>>>The piano player she finally found had one day to listen to the mp3's
>>>>>she sent, and 20 minutes before the doors opened to run through the
>>>>>songs with her. Had never heard them before.
>>>>>
>>>>>Damn, it's fun working with real professionals.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyhow, tell me what you think. A few extraneous noises, but it's a
>>>>>live recording.
>>>>>
>>>>>www.ctgonline.org/paul/open_arms.mp3
>>>>>
>>>>>pab
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
- Re: OK, I"m pretty confident this one doesn't suck [message #80425 is a reply to message #80415] Wed, 21 February 2007 05:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
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Oh, sibilance, schmibilance . . . it sounds great. Don't listen to Neil, he
just admitted to being all thumbs. :)

Sarah


"Neil" <OIUOIU@OU.com> wrote in message news:45dbdab4$1@linux...
>
> NIIIIIIICE!
>
> Just wondering - can you get rid of a bit of the sibilance if
> you back off spanking the NoLimit a bit?
>
> Nice sound, nice tune, and nice singing. Five thumbs up! :D
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
> Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>Was experimenting with different mixes from the last concert recording
>>I did.
>>
>>Tracked straight from mixer inserts. Vocal mic was a 58 (her own mic
>>- my preference would have been my AT AE5400, but she had a bit of a
>>cold and didn't want to get germs on the main mics as she was the
>>opener for Kasim Sulton).
>>
>>All Paris - all EDS inserts. Put NoLimit on her vocal and just
>>spanked the meter - voice just got fuller and ballsier the harder I
>>pushed it. Now I know what you guys were talking about. Final mix was
>>run through the Wavelab multiband.
>>
>>Piano was a digital - the one thing you need to remember is that she
>>called me in a panic on the Tuesday before the gig because the two
>>guitar players she normally uses both had medical emergencies, and she
>>was without an accompianist.
>>
>>The piano player she finally found had one day to listen to the mp3's
>>she sent, and 20 minutes before the doors opened to run through the
>>songs with her. Had never heard them before.
>>
>>Damn, it's fun working with real professionals.
>>
>>Anyhow, tell me what you think. A few extraneous noises, but it's a
>>live recording.
>>
>>www.ctgonline.org/paul/open_arms.mp3
>>
>>pab
>
- Re: OK, I"m pretty confident this one doesn't suck [message #80427 is a reply to message #80415] Wed, 21 February 2007 05:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Braun is currently offline  Paul Braun   UNITED STATES
Messages: 391
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On 21 Feb 2007 16:37:56 +1000, "Neil" <OIUOIU@OU.com> wrote:

>
>NIIIIIIICE!
>
>Just wondering - can you get rid of a bit of the sibilance if
>you back off spanking the NoLimit a bit?
>
>Nice sound, nice tune, and nice singing. Five thumbs up! :D
>

I'll give that a try tonight - well, tomorrow. Tonight I'm driving
into Chicago to see Sugarland.

Thanks!

pab
- Re: OK, I"m pretty confident this one doesn't suck [message #80428 is a reply to message #80420] Wed, 21 February 2007 05:38 Go to previous message
Paul Braun is currently offline  Paul Braun   UNITED STATES
Messages: 391
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On 21 Feb 2007 17:20:19 +1000, "Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:

>
>I like her voice A LOT... and I can't imagine that song with
>a guitar or two - it's perfect for piano just the way it is; or
>at least a piano-based arrangment, not guitar-based.
>
>Paul did she write that? That's a a great song, too - I must've
>listened to that clip like ten times.
>

Her name is Lisa McClowry - www.lisamcclowry.com

She co-wrote that one with Jim Peterik.

Actually the original demo of the song I have was done on acoustic
guitar. After hearing it on piano, I realized that was the only way
that song should be heard. Maybe throw a little light percussion
in...

I emailed Jim that I'm almost ready to pony up for studio time to
re-record it with him on a real grand and her on a real studio mic...

pab
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