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the USSR, leaving Afghanistan in ruins ever since.
The same can be said of Damascus, another beautiful Arab city. And let's
not forget the meddling in Iran.
Durring the hostage criss at the US embasy in '79, President Carter made
it clear that we were all supposed to forget the misdeads of the US,
labeling them as "ancient history", but also reminding us that dwelling
on Americas's faults only helped the enemy.

The idea here is classic, psychopathic thinking:: I may have robbed you
yesterday, but that doesn't give you the right to retaliate. If you
think this type of thinking is appropriot you should be on the FBI list
of people to watch.

> Perhaps, as Sen. Patty Murray intoned, we needed
>to match the good works of bin Laden to capture the hearts
>and minds of Muslim peoples.
>
>
Pointless rhetoric. Bin Laden may have not done any comunity service by
any US standard, but he has stated in his writtings that his purpose is
to free the Arab people from US oppression and tyranny. So, in this
regard, yes, maybe the US should capture the hearts and minds of the
Muslim people by leaving them the hell alone.

>The fable continues that the United States itself was united
>after the attack even during its preparations to retaliate in
>Afghanistan.
>
Correct, it is a fable. Not only was the US not united, but everyone
with a mind and some human compassion was against this Invasion.
Afghanistan didn't bomb the US. There's even a smattering of evidence
that the Israeli Mossad was involved.
Iraq had nothing to do with it.

> But then George Bush took his eye off the ball.
>He let bin Laden escape, and worst of all, unilaterally and
>preemptively, went into secular Iraq — an unnecessary war
>for oil, hegemony, Israel, or Halliburton, something in
>Ted Kennedy’s words “cooked up in Texas.”
>
>
All the smoking guns point to this conclusion.

>In any case, there was no connection between al Qaeda
>and Saddam, and thus terrorists only arrived in Iraq after
>we did.
>
>
Oops....apples and oranges. Bin Laden openly stated that he would not
deal with Saddam because he was heretical to Islam, having been in the
pocket of the US for so many years.
So it's only natural than in a post-Saddam Iraq Al Qaeda should do it's
part to rid the middle east of US invaders.

>That tale goes on. The Iraqi fiasco is now a hopeless quagmire.
>
>
Which it is.

>The terrorists are paying us back for it in places like London and Madrid.
>
>
Which they are.
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I can tell you it's not finished. My good friend is there right
now shooting women and childen (so he says) that get within 1/2 km of
their opperations.

>In this fable, we are not safer as a nation.
>
You arn't safer as a nation. This is one of the stated goals of the
anti-US movement in the middle east: make the US as un-free and
forshortened as their countries have been made by the US. You've
destroyed their home and people and it's made them quite angry. How can
you possibly not realize that if they don't come and get you, and
they'll try, that your HSA has given your gov't powers over you that
will come back to bite your ass. But wait, you're not guilty of anything
(that you know of...)! Well the HSA isn't about guilt now, is it,
vis-a-vis Guantanamo Bay.

>George Bush’s policies
>have increased the terror threat as we saw recently in the
>London bombing.
>
True, but Blair is responsible also. Don't forget: it's easier to get to
Europe than the US so, of course, they're going to target these people
first. If the US were closer, they'd be in a lot more trouble.

> We have now been at war longer than
>World War II. We still have no plan to defeat our enemies,
>and thus must set a timetable to withdraw from Iraq.
>
>
But that's not the goal. The US / Haliburton is currently building a
massive millitary base in Iraq. The goal is control of the middle east
oil reserves.

>Islamic terrorism cannot be defeated militarily nor can
>democracy be “implanted by force.”
>
True words were never spoken.

>So it is time to return
>to seeing the terrorist killing as a criminal justice matter
>— a tolerable nuisance addressed by writs and indictments,
>while we give more money to the Middle East and begin
>paying attention to the “root causes” of terror.
>
>
Only a moron would think that this is untrue. US intervention in the
middle east IS the cause of their attempts to punish/oust the foreign
invaders.

>That is the dominant narrative of the Western Left and
>at times it finds its way into mainstream Democratic
>-party thinking. Yet every element of it is false.
>
>
This guy is just about the least informed/intellegent writter I've had
the miserable displeasure to read in recent memory.
The idea that US action can be divorced from the discussion is just not
an option. Except in the US.

>Prior to 9/11, the United States had given an aggregate
>of over $50 billion to Egypt,
>
so....?

> and had allotted about the
>same amount of aid to Israel as to its frontline enemies.
>
>
so...?

>We had helped to save Muslims in Bosnia,
>
The Bosnian war started because Croatia moved to cut off the cheap oil
Bosnia was getting from Slovenia, in the hope of forcing it to buy more
expensive Croatian oil The US save the oil not the people.

> Kosovo, Somalia,
>
>
Here's an interesting and accurate summary of this conflict from Paul
Fhillips of the University of Manitoba, Canada:

Kosovo is a
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part of Serbia/Yugoslavia, just like Vermont is a part of the
United States. Serbs consider it to be the cradle of their civilization.
Until early in this decade, Kosovo had a tremendous amount of autonomy, due
to its large Albanian population. This autonomy was granted by the
previous government of Yugoslavia--an independent socialist government with
Marshall Tito as its president. When President Tito died, Milosevic was
elected to the presidency and revoked the autonomous rule. At the same
time, the International Monetary Fund, western banks, and the G
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>was straight down the autobahn the comes out of Berlin, through
>Potsdam, and straight on towards Wittenburg, then Hannover
>(I think it's A-24, but check me on that). In both cases, we
>had rivers in our way, fucking up our maneuvering
>capabilites... in the first instance, it was the Fulda River;
>in the 2nd area, it was the Leine... how many bridges over the
>Leine are there in or near Hannover? Is it still just four? So,
>we'd have been toast once we got backed up to the river there.
>I can't remember how many bridges there are around Fulda, but
>again, we would have been toast if the Russians struck first...
>very little maneuvering room to defend - if you've never been
>
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out to that area, you ought to go & see what I'm talking about.
>It's more or less an open-air museum now.
>
>It was definitely a first-strike scenario if there were no
>nukes involved... whoever would have hit first would have won.
>Conversely, if we had hit first out of Fulda, the Soviets would
>have been backed up to the Weser River; if we had hit first out
>of Braunschweig, they would have been backed up into the Elbe.
>However, everyone knows we wouldn't s
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trike first, therefore
>probably damn near all of our ground forces would have been
>killed.
>
>You **DO** know when they would have done this, don't you? They
>would have done this:
>
>a.) In August, when most of you guys go on vacation - which
>means more of your reserve troops would have been away in
>Spain, Italy, etc. Even some of your active troops would try to
>get away then to be with friends & family, etc,; so mainly
>skeleton staffs would have been left to man their posts in the
>German element.
>b.) On a **weekend** in August... since you guys like to take
>off at noon on Fridays (at least you did then - dunno if that's
>still a common practice), so that there would be even less
>troops in place. Coming over at 3am on a Sunday Morning would
>be nice & quiet & stealthy, don't you think? Or since they
>didn't have much in the way of night vision capabilities, a
Re: I've got that "New Computer" feeling. :o) [message #55993 is a reply to message #55989] Sun, 17 July 2005 17:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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n be any more appealing to
you is beyond me. i guess its a question of what one
believes in as always.


>because you are steeped in atheist ideology about
>cultural relativity so you cannot see when a culture has become
>degraded by hate and blood-lust.


im not an atheist. atheism is a religion of its own.
an atheist would say "i KNOW there is no god".
i personally would say "its laughably arrogant that people
believe that they know whether there is a god or not,
and if that wasnt enough, what kind of god it is".
that makes me more or less an agnostic. tought id
make that one clear.


>That was painful for you wasn't it? I should appreciate the effort,
>but you really should admit how awful their actions are more often,
>and leave off the excuses.


it of course wasnt painful in the slightest, youre
projecting again. its not too hard to look at the
slaughtering down there and give an "im an idiot"
Re: I've got that "New Computer" feeling. :o) [message #55994 is a reply to message #55993] Sun, 17 July 2005 17:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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badge
to both sides. that not taking one side doesnt
seem neutral to you, who is quite obviously on one
side, thats natural and i cant do anything about it.

> Do you have any
>idea how patronizing, not to say racist, it is to hold a double
>standard where you understand terrorists, but condemn the only
>democracy in the middle east?


you must be talking to someone else. i dont hold a double standard. i dont
understand terrorists. as i said above,
ill take sides with whoever comes up and says "lets stop
the violence". thats the side im on. because it has the best
track record. end of story.


>>from their point of view, theyre actually doing exactly
>>the same thing - use brute force. they dont have planes,
>>so they use suicide bombers.
>
>They don't have planes because their mullahs told them they don't
>need scientific progress 1000 years ago


doesnt make a difference why they dont have planes. the
logical decision for a religious fanatic is to use
violence. depending on the tools at your disposal,
you choose. its the way violence works.


> and they use suicide
>bombers because they are a degraded culture


love it when things can be so easy. this forum is full
of easy solutions...


>BULLSHIT! If I was on their side, I would advise them to go Ghandi,
>renounce all violence, and appeal to the wolrd for justice.


no you wouldnt, because from your (in that case muslim) view,
the w
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attack anyway.



>But there are millions of muslims (I've known a few myself) who
>would never join the ghouls. Maybe the ghouls are using a religion
>as an excuse for what they want to do anyway. Seems to me
>that Hitler and Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot managed to kill a few
>people without any religion...


well, yeah, there are a couple of things one can use as
fuel to make people go to war. one of them is monotheistic
religion. only because there are also other fuel types
doesnt make it any better.


>Sorry, I got mad for a minute there. I want to hear loud voices of
>condemnation of terrorism from euros, and most of what I hear is
>silence, and
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erlilo
"Jef Knight" <"Jef Knight"> skrev i en meddelelse =
news:42daf0b3@linux...
Hi,

This look like a pretty sweet place to live.
What's the temperature there?

jef




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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 15:45:15 -0400, "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net>
wrote:

>And we need more than 128 track why?
>Tom
>
> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:tu3jd1ls95dmhfd0pehe3gqdnlis9d87rh@4ax.com...
> okay, so who's the gnomite????
>
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:43:32 -0600, "DJ"
> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
> >Don Morrell...........but he's in Anchorage.
> >
> >
> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:6n7id1p2s434fdk7himmo3f9e76bcge300@4ax.com...
> >> who has paris in alaska???
> >>
> >> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 08:02:30 -0600, "Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I have it on unimpeachable authority that the eight card limit is a
> >software
> >> >switch.
> >> >
> >> >Ten cards have been successfully tested by a gnome.
> >> >
> >> >Regards,
> >> >
> >> >El Miguel
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:42d50996$1@linux...
> >> >>
> >> >> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >i think 8 has been the most i've heard using an expansion chassis.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm quite sure that Paris simply cannot run more than 8 cards.
> >> >>
> >> >> I beleive that you could, if you had appropriate hardware (ie.
> >expansion
> >> >> chassis's etc) run as many as you like, subject to bandwidth
> >limitations,
> >> >> but Paris was only built to run 8 cards, meaning 128 tracks.
> >> >>
> >> >> Find me the dude who can pick more than 128 instruments playing
> >> >simultaneously
> >> >> and I'll buy you a beer. ;o)
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Kim.
> >> >
> >>
> >YEAH, what he said but, just mail me the cd first.

On 18 Jul 2005 15:35:40 +1000, "Rod Lincoln"
<rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:

>
>O come on...is that any kind of attitude?????
>Be a man! screw it up!!!!!!
>;-)
>Rod
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>I'll prolly build myself a 64 bit box as soon as the whole 64 bit thing
>is
>>sorted out with all of my various
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DAw components. I'm just looking for
>>10-15% headroom right now, just iin case I need it. Never hurts to have
>it
>>handy, though this DAW seems to be quite happy running 4 x 21' CRT's with
>a
>>pair of them being driven by a Matrox G450 PCI card, a couple of RME HDSP
>>9652's and 3 x UAD-1's. I'm so happy with the way this has finally come
>>together that I might not screw it up for a while.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>
>>"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message
>>news:42daf689@linux...
>>> Deej that doesn't really seem to be worth it, but have you considered
>>adding
>>> a hamster army spinning a bunch of wheels? Might want to put it in
>>another
>>> room and run some cables, cuz that shit can be loud.
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>> news:42daeb52$1@linux...
>>> > My Cubase DAW is running at 333MHz (2 x gigs of PC 2700 DDR) using an
>>AMD
>>> > XP
>>> > 3000 CPU. It is plugging along at between 60-75% CPU usage when playing
>>> > back
>>> > 48 tracks of audio with little else going on other than plugins from
>my
>>3
>>> > x
>>> > UAD-1 cards. I'm not fmiliar enough with SX to knowif this is about
>>normal
>>> > or not and I'm sure I could optomize the system a little more by turning
>>> > off
>>> > the LAN in the bios when I'm mixing since one of my RME's is sharing
>an
>>> > IRQ
>>> > with it, but anyway, the system seems very stable and definitely usable
>>as
>>> > a
>>> > mixdown platform. I would however, like to squeeze a little more CPU
>>> > headroom out of it and I'm wondering if anyone here has ever substituted
>>> > an
>>> > XP 3200 CPU for an XP 3000 and noticed that the gain in cycles was
>>> > substantial enough to justify the expenditure (as subjective as that
>>is).
>>> > Anyway, it's a longshot, but I thought I'd ask.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Deej
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Sorry, I can't afford any gnome retaliation.

Me loves me kneecaps

:)

El Miguel



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