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A cold day in August [message #56981]

Tue, 16 August 2005 23:31

Deej [1]

Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006

Senior Member

e in depth experimentation
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>>>with
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>>>>>this. I just want to make sure that my methodology is somewhat sound
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> and
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>>>>>that I'm not tilting at windmills here. I've got a full plate so though
>>>>
>>>>I'd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>like to be able to spend the next 6 months flounderi

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Re: A cold day in August [message #56983 is a reply to message #56981]

Wed, 17 August 2005 02:26

rick

Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006

Senior Member

100-100 L/R spread equals 0.25' so for
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> every
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>>>>>4 increments, I'm moving the performer to the left or right by 1'. For
>>>>>example, if I wanted to position the band members within a space 30'
>
> across,
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>>>>>then from the center, to place the guitarist 15' to stage left, I would
>>>>
>>>>pan
>>>>
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>>>>>him left to 60.
>>>>>
>>>>>This would theoretically put him 10' from the closest wall and 35' from
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>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>farthest wall.
>>>>>
>>>>>Now a few questions about early reflections and predelay and soundstaging

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Re: A cold day in August [message #56985 is a reply to message #56981]

Wed, 17 August 2005 04:12

nucom
Messages: 1
Registered: August 2005

Junior Member

gt; the
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>>>>>ER's for the right side to around 35ms and the ER's to the left to around
>>>>>10ms with the levels about 2/3 to 3/4 (or less) of the strength of the
>>>>>original signal. This woulld theoretically give me a basic two dimensional
>>>>>(L/R) location of the musician in an ambient space, right?
>>>>>
>>>>>Also, do you pan the reverb send to mirror the return? I'm just not getting
>>>>>this for some reason. Seems that panning the send does nothing. Maybe
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> I'm
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>>>>>just too overwhelmed at the moment to notice.
>>>>>
>>>>>2. In order to get the front/back positioning of the musician relative
>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>>the

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Re: A cold day in August [message #56986 is a reply to message #56981]

Wed, 17 August 2005 05:30

Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005

Senior Member

other band members and the front/back of the room, using predealy
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> would
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>>>>>provide some dimensional space........right? what I'm not clear about
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> is
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>>>>>whether the predelay should be set for positioning the performers relative
>>>>>to the fall of the space that is farthest from them or from the wall
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> that
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>>>>is
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>behind them. I know that since they are broadcasting into the room, that
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>>>>the
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>>>>>front makes sense, but music travels all directions and it seems it would
>>>>>make smoe sense to at least take the back wall into consideration.
>>>>>
>>>>>Also, I'm thinking that using actual short (2-3 ms delays) between the
>>>>>instruments/performers themselves wo

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Re: A cold day in August [message #56987 is a reply to message #56981]

Wed, 17 August 2005 05:51

justcron

Messages: 330
Registered: May 2006

Senior Member

uld help to create some sense of
>>>>>relative front-to-back relational spatiality.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm working mostly with acoustic musicians, some drums, but very little
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>>>>in
>>>>
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>>>>>the way of special FX like phaser/chorus/synth stuff,..........just trying
>>>>>to create a realistic optimal and dimensionally realistic space for the
>>>>>performance.
>>>>>
>>>>>How big a soundstage is generally used for commercial studio projects?
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>>>I
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>>>>>know it's all relative, but if there is some sxort of *go-by* here that
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>>>>is
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>>>>>an accepted standard, I'd like to know.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for indulging my ignorance and enlightening me..Also, I've got
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> an
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>>>>MP3
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>>>>>of a mix that I did last night that I'd like to get some of your opinions
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Re: A cold day in August [message #56989 is a reply to message #56981]

Wed, 17 August 2005 06:11

John [1]

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Registered: September 2005

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chrisl@adkproaudio.com"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
If you haven't seen it, it is very cool now.
Finally got Drumagog 4.02 cooking and it is as good as it ever was.

Does this come with its own set of replacement drum sounds, or do you use
it with sample libraries? Also, what is your Paris setup? Win98, XP? Mac?

ThanksHas anyone here tried the new Wizoo reverb? I'm on a Mac, so GigaPulse is
out for me. I know Altiverb is supposed to be great, but it's just a l

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Re: A cold day in August [message #56990 is a reply to message #56981]

Wed, 17 August 2005 07:10

Paul
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Registered: June 2005

Junior Member

ittle
pricey for me right now. I think the Wizoo verb is about half the cost.
Anybody?

Thanks,

Tony

"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
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> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>I'm needing to get pretty anal retentive with this stuff these days...
>>Deej
>>
>
> Well.
> I have worked with many producers and mix engineers over the years that do
> sweat the details, including sound stage.
> M/S.
> Binaural.
> X/Y.

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Re: A cold day in August [message #56992 is a reply to message #56981]

Wed, 17 August 2005 08:22

EK Sound

Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005

Senior Member

to add spot mics and "correct" the
> phase relationship after the fact. I have not had a chance to try this
> yet,
> but I hope to soon.
> (PhaseTone from Tritone is out now and free.)
> http://www.tritonedigital.com/products.htm
> Gene
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Gary,
I'm on XP Pro, only a couple of samples come with it
but the upgrade allows access to purchasing more
samples from Wavemachines (Drumagog) website.
I have my own sample library derived from many sources
and converted to .wavs. =20

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Re: A cold day in August [message #57014 is a reply to message #56981]

Wed, 17 August 2005 18:26

Neil
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Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

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