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Why will Paris 3 not render EDS effects [message #102062] Mon, 12 January 2009 09:26 Go to next message
studiodog_99 is currently offline  studiodog_99
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Why can we only render Native effects? It would be great to render eds effects
- is there a way to do this?

Thanks!!!!!
Re: Why will Paris 3 not render EDS effects [message #102066 is a reply to message #102062] Mon, 12 January 2009 10:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
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I doubt this will ever happen as the on-board DSP works only in real time...

David.

Rich S. wrote:
> Why can we only render Native effects? It would be great to render eds effects
> - is there a way to do this?
>
> Thanks!!!!!
Re: Why will Paris 3 not render EDS effects [message #102072 is a reply to message #102062] Tue, 13 January 2009 00:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Erling is currently offline  Erling   NORWAY
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There is a way to render EDS effects but it's a harder way. Make the choice
of wich file you will render with just EDS, pan it to right or left and mute
all other files. Do a stereo mixdown and import the file back to the
project.

Erling

"Rich S." <studiodog_99@(Y)ahoo.com> skrev i melding
news:496b6f2d$1@linux...
>
> Why can we only render Native effects? It would be great to render eds
> effects
> - is there a way to do this?
>
> Thanks!!!!!
Re: Why will Paris 3 not render EDS effects [message #102077 is a reply to message #102072] Tue, 13 January 2009 10:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gantt Kushner ganttma is currently offline  Gantt Kushner ganttma
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I've never tried this, but what if you go to the patchbay and route the insert
out of the channel you want to render to the input of another channel, set
up your EDS FX and then, in the last open EDS slot set it to "external".
Do you think you'd be able to record the EDS effected output of that track
to the new track? Still would have to be real time, though...

Gantt

"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>There is a way to render EDS effects but it's a harder way. Make the choice

>of wich file you will render with just EDS, pan it to right or left and
mute
>all other files. Do a stereo mixdown and import the file back to the
>project.
>
>Erling
>
>"Rich S." <studiodog_99@(Y)ahoo.com> skrev i melding
>news:496b6f2d$1@linux...
>>
>> Why can we only render Native effects? It would be great to render eds

>> effects
>> - is there a way to do this?
>>
>> Thanks!!!!!
>
>
>
Re: Why will Paris 3 not render EDS effects [message #102081 is a reply to message #102077] Tue, 13 January 2009 14:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Erling is currently offline  Erling   NORWAY
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I don't know Gantt. I knew stereo mixdown was the only way to render with
earlier Paris versions, as far as I know, so I believed it was the same
route in version 3 with EDS.

Erling

<Gantt Kushner ganttmanncomcast.net> skrev i melding
news:496ccc20$1@linux...
>
> I've never tried this, but what if you go to the patchbay and route the
> insert
> out of the channel you want to render to the input of another channel, set
> up your EDS FX and then, in the last open EDS slot set it to "external".
> Do you think you'd be able to record the EDS effected output of that track
> to the new track? Still would have to be real time, though...
>
> Gantt
>
> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>>There is a way to render EDS effects but it's a harder way. Make the
>>choice
>
>>of wich file you will render with just EDS, pan it to right or left and
> mute
>>all other files. Do a stereo mixdown and import the file back to the
>>project.
>>
>>Erling
>>
>>"Rich S." <studiodog_99@(Y)ahoo.com> skrev i melding
>>news:496b6f2d$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Why can we only render Native effects? It would be great to render eds
>
>>> effects
>>> - is there a way to do this?
>>>
>>> Thanks!!!!!
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Why will Paris 3 not render EDS effects [message #102083 is a reply to message #102077] Tue, 13 January 2009 14:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
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If you have an adat card in your system, you can do a render using aux
sends to route to adat outputs. Loop the adat optical out to in, then
route the adat inputs to free channels and record the results. It's the
same as the SPDIF loop thing, but 8 channels at a time (or 16 if you
have 2 adat cards, one in each of two MEC's). One cavet... the loop on
adat will be 20bit resolution only.

David.

"Gantt Kushner" ganttmanncomcast.net wrote:
> I've never tried this, but what if you go to the patchbay and route the insert
> out of the channel you want to render to the input of another channel, set
> up your EDS FX and then, in the last open EDS slot set it to "external".
> Do you think you'd be able to record the EDS effected output of that track
> to the new track? Still would have to be real time, though...
>
> Gantt
>
> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>> There is a way to render EDS effects but it's a harder way. Make the choice
>
>> of wich file you will render with just EDS, pan it to right or left and
> mute
>> all other files. Do a stereo mixdown and import the file back to the
>> project.
>>
>> Erling
>>
>> "Rich S." <studiodog_99@(Y)ahoo.com> skrev i melding
>> news:496b6f2d$1@linux...
>>> Why can we only render Native effects? It would be great to render eds
>
>>> effects
>>> - is there a way to do this?
>>>
>>> Thanks!!!!!
>>
>>
>
Re: Why will Paris 3 not render EDS effects [message #102086 is a reply to message #102081] Tue, 13 January 2009 19:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gantt Kushner is currently offline  Gantt Kushner   
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I know that you can route the stereo output from the master module to two
channel inputs. I've run simultaneous ruff mixes that way. Why, then, couldn't
you run an EDS effect output to a channel input? I'm, gonna have to give
it a try just to see!

Gantt

"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>I don't know Gantt. I knew stereo mixdown was the only way to render with

>earlier Paris versions, as far as I know, so I believed it was the same

>route in version 3 with EDS.
>
>Erling
>
><Gantt Kushner ganttmanncomcast.net> skrev i melding
>news:496ccc20$1@linux...
>>
>> I've never tried this, but what if you go to the patchbay and route the

>> insert
>> out of the channel you want to render to the input of another channel,
set
>> up your EDS FX and then, in the last open EDS slot set it to "external".
>> Do you think you'd be able to record the EDS effected output of that track
>> to the new track? Still would have to be real time, though...
>>
>> Gantt
>>
>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>>>There is a way to render EDS effects but it's a harder way. Make the
>>>choice
>>
>>>of wich file you will render with just EDS, pan it to right or left and
>> mute
>>>all other files. Do a stereo mixdown and import the file back to the
>>>project.
>>>
>>>Erling
>>>
>>>"Rich S." <studiodog_99@(Y)ahoo.com> skrev i melding
>>>news:496b6f2d$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Why can we only render Native effects? It would be great to render
eds
>>
>>>> effects
>>>> - is there a way to do this?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>


Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
Re: Why will Paris 3 not render EDS effects [message #102087 is a reply to message #102086] Tue, 13 January 2009 22:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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You can totally do this. but you would take an converter hit, unless you did
it through the spdif. I'ts pretty much the Brian T method of rendering autotune.
You could also use adat. Your limiting to 20 bits, but heck, a lot of "24"
bit audio is really only 20 usable bits anyway.
Rod
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I know that you can route the stereo output from the master module to two
>channel inputs. I've run simultaneous ruff mixes that way. Why, then, couldn't
>you run an EDS effect output to a channel input? I'm, gonna have to give
>it a try just to see!
>
>Gantt
>
>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>>I don't know Gantt. I knew stereo mixdown was the only way to render with
>
>>earlier Paris versions, as far as I know, so I believed it was the same
>
>>route in version 3 with EDS.
>>
>>Erling
>>
>><Gantt Kushner ganttmanncomcast.net> skrev i melding
>>news:496ccc20$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I've never tried this, but what if you go to the patchbay and route the
>
>>> insert
>>> out of the channel you want to render to the input of another channel,
>set
>>> up your EDS FX and then, in the last open EDS slot set it to "external".
>>> Do you think you'd be able to record the EDS effected output of that
track
>>> to the new track? Still would have to be real time, though...
>>>
>>> Gantt
>>>
>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>>>>There is a way to render EDS effects but it's a harder way. Make the

>>>>choice
>>>
>>>>of wich file you will render with just EDS, pan it to right or left and
>>> mute
>>>>all other files. Do a stereo mixdown and import the file back to the
>>>>project.
>>>>
>>>>Erling
>>>>
>>>>"Rich S." <studiodog_99@(Y)ahoo.com> skrev i melding
>>>>news:496b6f2d$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Why can we only render Native effects? It would be great to render
>eds
>>>
>>>>> effects
>>>>> - is there a way to do this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Why will Paris 3 not render EDS effects [message #102226 is a reply to message #102087] Tue, 20 January 2009 12:35 Go to previous message
Riich S is currently offline  Riich S
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Registered: January 2009
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Great idea's - thanks!
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>You can totally do this. but you would take an converter hit, unless you
did
>it through the spdif. I'ts pretty much the Brian T method of rendering autotune.
>You could also use adat. Your limiting to 20 bits, but heck, a lot of "24"
>bit audio is really only 20 usable bits anyway.
>Rod
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>I know that you can route the stereo output from the master module to two
>>channel inputs. I've run simultaneous ruff mixes that way. Why, then,
couldn't
>>you run an EDS effect output to a channel input? I'm, gonna have to give
>>it a try just to see!
>>
>>Gantt
>>
>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>>>I don't know Gantt. I knew stereo mixdown was the only way to render with
>>
>>>earlier Paris versions, as far as I know, so I believed it was the same
>>
>>>route in version 3 with EDS.
>>>
>>>Erling
>>>
>>><Gantt Kushner ganttmanncomcast.net> skrev i melding
>>>news:496ccc20$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I've never tried this, but what if you go to the patchbay and route
the
>>
>>>> insert
>>>> out of the channel you want to render to the input of another channel,
>>set
>>>> up your EDS FX and then, in the last open EDS slot set it to "external".
>>>> Do you think you'd be able to record the EDS effected output of that
>track
>>>> to the new track? Still would have to be real time, though...
>>>>
>>>> Gantt
>>>>
>>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>>>>>There is a way to render EDS effects but it's a harder way. Make the
>
>>>>>choice
>>>>
>>>>>of wich file you will render with just EDS, pan it to right or left
and
>>>> mute
>>>>>all other files. Do a stereo mixdown and import the file back to the
>>>>>project.
>>>>>
>>>>>Erling
>>>>>
>>>>>"Rich S." <studiodog_99@(Y)ahoo.com> skrev i melding
>>>>>news:496b6f2d$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why can we only render Native effects? It would be great to render
>>eds
>>>>
>>>>>> effects
>>>>>> - is there a way to do this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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