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| Re: Mecs+442+clock help needed... [message #57910 is a reply to message #57909] |
Tue, 06 September 2005 12:28   |
Dimitrios
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ins/outs of 442 to work.
> > > > When I put the housesync then I get 442 ins/outs to work but mec2
ins
> > outs
> > > > don't work.
> > > > I clock mec1 from ADIPRO8, mec2 from mec1 and 442 from external
> > wordclock
> > > > that slaves to adipro8.
> > > > I don't want to have 442 in A card because then I cannot have 24bit
> > spdif
> > > > output for monitoring...
> > > > Any help - suggestion ?
> > > > regards,
> > > > Dimitrios
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>DJ,
Is there any difference between XP and ME in this equation?
Cheers,
TC
DJ wrote:
> 3 MECs works reliably. I still have to toggle the sync settings from WC to
> internal to WC to get MEC #2 on card B to initialize on my system, but this
> works reliably too. I have never used more than 3 x MECs so I don't know
> about using 4, but if you are feeding them all directly from a WC rather
> than daisy chaining them, you should theoretically be OK.
>
> DEej
>
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:431ded16@linux...
>
>>So DJ,
>>Three mecs work fine instead of two mecs and a 442 right ?
>>Same goes for 4 mecs ?
>>No problems there either ?
>>regards,
>>Dimitrios
>>
>>ps: Now I am "back" on Me...
>>
>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>news:431dec5d@linux...
>>
>>>I had problems using a 442 and two MECs also. The solution was to attach
>>
>>the
>>
>>>442 to card A. The 442 is initialized from the EDS card which is paged
>>
>>when
>>
>>>the computer boots. The MECs have on/off switches and are not recognized
>>
>>by
>>
>>>the com
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| Re: Mecs+442+clock help needed... [message #57912 is a reply to message #57910] |
Tue, 06 September 2005 12:32 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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WC
>
>>>in my default project.
>>>
>>>It didn't really work reliably, ever so I just bought another MEC and
>
> this
>
>>>did work reliabl\y.
>>>
>>>Good luck
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>
>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:431de9b2@linux...
>>>
>>>>I have two mecs and one 442.
>>>>Here is my situation...
>>>>When I use the two mecs with external wordclock they work fine.
>>>>Mec1 at A and mec2 at D (4 cards)
>>>>When I put a 442 (without the housesync in paris cfg) then I don't
>
> get
>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>ins/outs of 442 to work.
>>>>When I put the housesync then I get 442 ins/outs to work but mec2 ins
>>
>>outs
>>
>>>>don't work.
>>>>I clock mec1 from ADIPRO8, mec2 from mec1 and 442 from external
>>
>>wordclock
>>
>>>>that slaves to adipro8.
>>>>I don't want to have 442 in A card because then I cannot have 24bit
>>
>>spdif
>>
>>>>output for monitoring...
>>>>Any help - suggestion ?
>>>>regards,
>>>>Dimitrios
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>No. S/PDIFon 442 is 20 bits. You can switch the 442 to submix #2 or 3 though
and use one of your MECs as the master on submix #1.
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:431dee6c@linux...
> Thanks DJ
> Is there by any chance the Spdif ou 24bit on a 442 ?
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:431dede0$1@linux...
> > 3 MECs works reliably. I still have to toggle the sync settings from WC
to
> > internal to WC to get MEC #2 on card B to initialize on my system, but
> this
> > works reliably too. I have never used more than 3 x MECs so I don't know
> > about using 4, but if you are feeding them all directly from a WC rather
> > than daisy chaining them, you should theoretically be OK.
> >
> > DEej
> >
> >
> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:431ded16@linux...
> > > So DJ,
> > > Three mecs work fine instead of two mecs and a 442 right ?
> > > Same goes for 4 mecs ?
> > > No problems there either ?
> > > regards,
> > > Dimitrios
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| Re: Mecs+442+clock help needed... [message #57915 is a reply to message #57913] |
Tue, 06 September 2005 12:41 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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;>>>regards,
> >>>>Dimitrios
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >Great, thanks.
I'm in the process of building a big paris rig again, and am probably going to go
ME so I can use multiple adat cards per mec streaming audio in from my G5
running Abelton 5, and Logic 7. The plan is to do all programming in Live
or Logic, and record and mix the audio in Paris.
I may be bugging you a few times once I get this going..
Cheers,
TC
DJ wrote:
> When I was using XP, I was only using 2 x MECs so I don't know about 3 x
> MECs when running XP.
>
> Mic Cross could likely answer this question. I haven't seen him here in a
> while. Gene Lennon might also have some info on this.
>
> DeejSorry DJ,
How can you switch ?
I always see that mix a which is attached to 442 (A) has the monitor outputs
no matter where I switch the default submix to !
I am sure I miss something obvious here ,can you help some more ?
Regards,
Dimitrios
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:431df002@linux...
> No. S/PDIFon 442 is 20 bits. You can switch the 442 to submix #2 or 3
though
> and use one of your MECs as the master on submix #1.
>
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:431dee6c@linux...
> > Thanks DJ
> > Is there by any chance the Spdif ou 24bit on a 442 ?
> > Regards,
> > Dimitrios
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:431dede0$1@linux...
> > > 3 MECs works reliably. I still have to toggle the sync settings from
WC
> to
> > > internal to WC to get MEC #2 on card B to initialize on my system,
but
> > this
> > > works reliably too. I have never used more than 3 x MECs so I don't
know
> > > about using 4, but if you are feeding them all directly from a WC
rather
> > > than daisy chaining them, you should theoretically be OK.
> > >
> > > DEej
> > >
> > >
> > > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
news:431ded16@linux...
> > > > So DJ,
> > > > Three mecs work fine instead of two mecs and a 442 right ?
> > > > Same goes for 4 mecs ?
> > > > No problems there either ?
> > > > regards,
> > > > Dimitrios
> > > >
> > > > ps: Now I am "back" on Me...
> > > >
> > > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:431dec5d@linux...
> > > > > I had problems using a 442 and two MECs also. The solution was to
> > attach
> > > > the
> > > > > 442 to card A. The 442 is initialized from the EDS card which is
> paged
> > > > when
> > > > > the computer boots. The MECs have on/off switches and are not
> > recognized
> > > > by
> > > > > the computer/EDS cards until the Paris application is actually
> > launched.
> > > > >
> > > > > The boot sequence that worked for me was as follows:
> > > > >
> > > > > 442 on card A, MECs on Cards B & C
> > > > >
> > > > > Turn on WC module
> > > > > Boot computer (you will see the 442 lights blink)
> > > > > Launch Paris
> > > > >
> > > > > I was having some trouble getting the MEC on Card B to work but
this
> > was
> > > > > solved by toggling the sync source from WC to internal and then
back
> > to
> > > WC
> > > > > in my default project.
> > > > >
> > > > > It didn't really work reliably, ever so I just bought another MEC
&g
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| Re: Mecs+442+clock help needed... [message #57916 is a reply to message #57914] |
Tue, 06 September 2005 12:42 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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t; and
> > > this
> > > > > did work reliabl\y.
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck
> > > > >
> > > > > Deej
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
> > news:431de9b2@linux...
> > > > > > I have two mecs and one 442.
> > > > > > Here is my situation...
> > > > > > When I use the two mecs with external wordclock they work fine.
> > > > > > Mec1 at A and mec2 at D (4 cards)
> > > > > > When I put a 442 (without the housesync in paris cfg) then I
> don't
> > > get
> > > > > the
> > > > > > ins/outs of 442 to work.
> > > > > > When I put the housesync then I get 442 ins/outs to work but
mec2
> > ins
> > > > outs
> > > > > > don't work.
> > > > > > I clock mec1 from ADIPRO8, mec2 from mec1 and 442 from external
> > > > wordclock
> > > > > > that slaves to adipro8.
> > > > > > I don't want to have 442 in A card because then I cannot have
> 24bit
> > > > spdif
> > > > > > output for monitoring...
> > > > > > Any help - suggestion ?
> > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > Dimitrios
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>My # is 970-375-7081. Feel free to call. There's a lot to this and it can
get expensive if you are trying to pin the tail on the donkey. Been there,
done that. No point in cutting corners. It won't work reliably, but it
doesn't have to break the bank either if you get the right stuff from the
*git go*
"TC" <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote in message
news:431df1f2@linux...
> Great, thanks.
>
> I'm in the process of building a big paris rig again, and am probably
going to go
> ME so I can use multiple adat cards per mec streaming audio in from my G5
> running Abelton 5, and Logic 7. The plan is to do all programming in Live
> or Logic, and record and mix the audio in Paris.
>
> I may be bugging you a few times once I get this going..
>
> Cheers,
>
> TC
>
> DJ wrote:
> > When I was using XP, I was only using 2 x MECs so I don't know about 3 x
> > MECs when running XP.
> >
> > Mic Cross could likely answer this question. I haven't seen him here in
a
> > while. Gene Lennon might also have some info on this.
> >
> > DeejHmmmmm.........switching submix #1 to card B in the Master mixer window
doesn't allow you to operate using Card B as the master output? I could have
sworn I have done this before. Maybe I'm getting senile or something. I'll
have to check when I get the time. I'm on my way out the door right now.
Deej
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:431df4c8@linux...
> Sorry DJ,
> How can you switch ?
> I always see that mix a which is attached to 442 (A) has the monitor
outputs
> no matter where I switch the default submix to !
> I am sure I miss something obvious here ,can you help some more ?
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:431df002@linux...
> > No. S/PDIFon 442 is 20 bits. You can switch the 442 to submix #2 or 3
> though
> > and use one of your MECs as the master on submix #1.
> >
> >
> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:431dee6c@linux...
> > > Thanks DJ
> > > Is there by any chance the Spdif ou 24bit on a 442 ?
> > > Regards,
> > > Dimitrios
> > >
> > > "DJ" <Report message to a moderator
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| Re: Mecs+442+clock help needed... [message #57918 is a reply to message #57915] |
Tue, 06 September 2005 13:01 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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gt; >
> > > > DEej
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
> news:431ded16@linux...
> > > > > So DJ,
> > > > > Three mecs work fine instead of two mecs and a 442 right ?
> > > > > Same goes for 4 mecs ?
> > > > > No problems there either ?
> > > > > regards,
> > > > > Dimitrios
> > > > >
> > > > > ps: Now I am "back" on Me...
> > > > >
> > > > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:431dec5d@linux...
> > > > > > I had problems using a 442 and two MECs also. The solution was
to
> > > attach
> > > > > the
> > > > > > 442 to card A. The 442 is initialized from the EDS card which is
> > paged
> > > > > when
> > > > > > the computer boots. The MECs have on/off switches and are not
> > > recognized
> > > > > by
> > > > > > the computer/EDS cards until the Paris application is actually
> > > launched.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The boot sequence that worked for me was as follows:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 442 on card A, MECs on Cards B & C
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Turn on WC module
> > > > > > Boot computer (you will see the 442 lights blink)
> > > > > > Launch Paris
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was having some trouble getting the MEC on Card B to work but
> this
> > > was
> > > > > > solved by toggling the sync source from WC to internal and then
> back
> > > to
> > > > WC
> > > > > > in my default project.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It didn't really work reliably, ever so I just bought another
MEC
> > and
> > > > this
> > > > > > did work reliabl\y.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good luck
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Deej
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
> > > news:431de9b2@linux...
> > > > > > > I have two mecs and one 442.
> > > > > > > Here is my situation...
> > > > > > > When I use the two mecs with external wordclock they work
fine.
> > > > > > > Mec1 at A and mec2 at D (4 cards)
> > > > > > > When I put a 442 (without the housesync in paris cfg) then I
> > don't
> > > > get
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > ins/outs of 442 to work.
> > > > > > > When I put the housesync then I get 442 ins/outs to work but
> mec2
> > > ins
> > > > > outs
> > > > > > > don't work.
> > > > > > > I clock mec1 from ADIPRO8, mec2 from mec1 and 442 from
external
> > > > > wordclock
> > > > > > > that slaves to adipro8.
> > > > > > > I don't want to have 442 in A card because then I cannot have
> > 24bit
> > > > > spdif
> > > > > > > output for monitoring...
> > > > > > > Any help - suggestion ?
> > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > Dimitrios
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>The big guys call him
>up to the office and decide to make him a superviser.
>Now everyone on the outside thinks,see blacks are
>getting places. But not so fast! They make him believe
>that if he continues to work hard he will become one
>of them,but he will never become one of them and
>at
>some point he will realize that he has been use to do the
>dirty work for them.
Nappy,
I remember being a college kid and having to rent small houses
and apartments. The landlord can throw your butt out at any
time for any reason. One of them got tossed out of his in-laws
house for beating his wife and ordered me out on one day notice! I
had just moved in 3 days earlier. I said only with a complete refund
of every nickel. He refused, and told me he would sue me for
damaging the house (which I did not do) if I did not get out that
night. I did not, and ended up defending myself in court (lost)
and on appeal (settled for a few hundred). Fun huh?
Why am I telling you this? Because an experience like that will
make a flaming Bolshevik out of anyone. An experien
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| Re: Mecs+442+clock help needed... [message #57920 is a reply to message #57918] |
Tue, 06 September 2005 13:25 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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at unequal results automatically equal racism.
The left believe this because it keeps them in power and keeps
people coming back to them for handouts, creating a permanent
underclass of black victims on the bottom and white liberals on top with
handouts.
But of course, equal opportunity does not always give equal results.
And that offends those with socialistic bents. Unfortunately for
them, the methods of providing equal results always fail, and
pretty much everyone knows it.
Why do African immigrants do so much better than many black
americans? They do. Better grades, better jobs. It clearly is
not the genes.
Racism isn't just sinful, it's stupid.
It's the damn culture, not the people. Read Thomas Sowell on this.
That culture, derived from slave owners, has a history all the way
back to england, scotland and ireland, and every group, white or
black that embraces it, sees the same phenomena that black
american culture currently suffers from.
I spent most of my life in academia, and I have done more than
have black friends. I have mentored and led young black men.
Today, nearly all are succesful and many are professionals, and it
all started with changing the way they think. Racism is not the
issue. It's like "whack-a-mole", we need to hammer it wherever it
pops up, but that won't change things. What made the change
is a sense of ownership.
Young man came in my office one day to apologize for being late.
Said he was in jail. Turns out he was in McDonalds late at night,
just "eating while black" and a couple of Fontana cops rousted him.
When he simply asked them why they were hassling him, he ended
up in jail with a summons. He was so mad he was nearly shaking.
He felt beaten, and like a victim of a mssive power structure that
hated him for his skin color. He was set to pay the fine, but the
hate from this expreience was palpable in him. I said "to hell with
that, don't pay a damn thing". You are an AMERICAN, you own
this country as much as anyone else. Don't react to this like those
racist cops expect you to. You go in dressed well, and plead
"not guilty" in a loud and clear voice and explain what happened
as if you expect to be exonerated. Be righteous, be strong.
The judge threw out the case and chewed out the cops.
Today he helps run a restaurant. Has a nicer car than I do.
The reason I reacted so strongly to Kanye West's nonsense, and
Jason repeating it here, is that it goes to the heart of this issue.
White racists look at the looting in NO and go "how come them
people is all black?" As if their skin was what made them criminals.
And Kanye and others cannot stand the apparent loss of respect
that represents, so they must push the blame somewhere else, so
they tell lies about the president, while not doing a DAMN THING
to help anyone in NO.
These people. Kanye and the racists, are two side of the same
person. Both full of sh*t. If there was ONE black hero, (and there
were hundreds) then the evil in NO was not Bush or the white power
structure, it was the evil in the criminal's own shriveled little
hearts. But to admit this, is to give an inch to the racists, so we
tell lies.
Here's the truth. The failure in NO was entirely due to the corrupt
mayor and his 255 school buses and the incompetent sobbing
governor. Could FEMA have reacted faster? Yes, but not by much
and Bush is only to blame if he does not fix FEMA.
Jason and Kanye, and the whole lousy bunch of liars here are so
short on facts that they must tell bigger and bigger lies and get
angrier and angrier to cover up their dishonesty. It won't work.
BTW, just for the record. I believe in reparations. Every black
american would get free college or trade school with living and
food paid for. Just in case you think I am a hard rightie...
No money though. No handouts.
And you if think I am pissed, read this guy:
http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/000129.html
Take care of yourself.
DCYeah, remember hom sitting on the turntable and spinning around?
Man we are old...
DC
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>The end of an era. He was absolutely brilliant as Maynard G. Krebbs on the
>Dobie Gillis show. I will remember his role a Maynard much more than
>Gilligan.
>
>Sad...........
>:(
>
>"Mark McCurdy" <gmmccurdy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:431de6f9@linux...
>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168600,00.html
>>
>>
>
>Hi Deej,
Thanks, that's very kind of you. I will likely take you up on that (I'll email you
first to set up a time) once I get the rest of my gear in place here over the next
few weeks.
Cheers,
TC
DJ wrote:
> My # is 970-375-7081. Feel free to call. There's a lot to this and it can
> get expensive if you are trying to pin the tail on the donkey. Been there,
> done that. No point in cutting corners. It won't work reliably, but it
> doesn't have to break the bank either if you get the right stuff from the
> *git go*
>
>leave me out of your posts-you have too much time on your hands to have the
time to write all of this bullshit-Rice ain't gonna be president (neither
is Hillary so I cut you off at the pass on this one) but if she does I will
take up several offers that I have in Europe and Move
JM
>
>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>The big guys call him
>>up to the office and decide to make him a superviser.
>>Now everyone on the outside thinks,see blacks are
>>getting places. But not so fast! They make him believe
>>that if he continues to work hard he will become one
>>of them,but he will never become one of them and
>>at
>>some point he will realize that he has been use to do the
>>dirty work for them.
>
>Nappy,
>
>I remember being a college kid and having to rent small houses
>and apartments. The landlord can throw your butt out at any
>time for any reason. One of them got tossed out of his in-laws
>house for beating his wife and ordered me out on one day notice! I
>had just moved in 3 days earlier. I said only with a complete refund
>of every nickel. He refused, and told me he would sue me for
>damaging the house (which
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Tue, 06 September 2005 13:55 |
TC
Messages: 327
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ive I'm reading this.
So they SHOULDN'T promote the black guy because he's the best
worker down on the floor? Wait, that wouldn't be right... if
he's the best worker, then he SHOULD be the one to get promoted.
No, wait again, but then he'd be getting screwed by getting
promoted, for the reasons that you just said. OK, so we don't
want him to get screwed, so we'll leave him where he is... no,
but then we'd be screwing him by NOT promoting him.
Looks like from your perspective the black guy is screwed either
way by working there.
NeilHey guys,
trying to get inp
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