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| Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75390 is a reply to message #75360] |
Sat, 04 November 2006 16:39   |
Sarah
Messages: 608
Registered: February 2007
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OK, I really didn't think this would turn into a discussion, so I
apologize for that. But I just wanted to say one thing before I drop this.
It's absurd to say "they're all . . . " anything. Whenever I hear huge
generalities about any group of people, I figure I'm listening to someone
who simply doesn't want to really look a little deeper. There are honest,
ethical people in government, and if they're outnumbered it's precisely
because as fat, comfy Americans we have been apathetic and cynical long
enough to let the crooks and liars take over.
And even if it was true that they're ALL bad, which it isn't, I would
still be saying, "Please vote," because sometimes choosing between the
lesser of two evils is a life or death decision.
Sarah
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7be4$1@linux...
> not important. just picking from different groups of crooks
>
> Sarah wrote:
>> Of course. It might not be good, but important nevertheless. :)
>>
>>
>> S.
>>
>>
>> "Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454bf3ad$1@linux...
>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>> least
>>>> not in my lifetime.
>>> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
>>> be important?
>>>
>>> Neil
>>
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| Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75392 is a reply to message #75390] |
Sat, 04 November 2006 17:36 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
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They all suck. NONE of them have any plans! I have better plans for building
a dog house than this bunch of idiots have? Which genius have I overlooked
?
Actually, I was going to build a dog house today and I did a complete plan
and did a cost list before I bought the materials and the house I was building
was going to be $200 so I bought one for $169 that suits me ok. So here
I am costing things out before I execute them. What a concept !!
John
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
> OK, I really didn't think this would turn into a discussion, so I
>apologize for that. But I just wanted to say one thing before I drop this.
>
> It's absurd to say "they're all . . . " anything. Whenever I hear huge
>generalities about any group of people, I figure I'm listening to someone
>who simply doesn't want to really look a little deeper. There are honest,
>ethical people in government, and if they're outnumbered it's precisely
>because as fat, comfy Americans we have been apathetic and cynical long
>enough to let the crooks and liars take over.
>
> And even if it was true that they're ALL bad, which it isn't, I would
>still be saying, "Please vote," because sometimes choosing between the
>lesser of two evils is a life or death decision.
>
>Sarah
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7be4$1@linux...
>> not important. just picking from different groups of crooks
>>
>> Sarah wrote:
>>> Of course. It might not be good, but important nevertheless. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> S.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454bf3ad$1@linux...
>>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>>> least
>>>>> not in my lifetime.
>>>> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
>>>> be important?
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>
>
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| Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75397 is a reply to message #75392] |
Sat, 04 November 2006 17:22 |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
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Why don't you submit yourself for public office, John.
You might even be able to change the world, but wait, you could never get
Paris working properly, so maybe that's not such a great idea either.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454d3225$1@linux...
>
>
> They all suck. NONE of them have any plans! I have better plans for
> building
> a dog house than this bunch of idiots have? Which genius have I
> overlooked
> ?
>
> Actually, I was going to build a dog house today and I did a complete plan
> and did a cost list before I bought the materials and the house I was
> building
> was going to be $200 so I bought one for $169 that suits me ok. So here
> I am costing things out before I execute them. What a concept !!
>
> John
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>> OK, I really didn't think this would turn into a discussion, so I
>>apologize for that. But I just wanted to say one thing before I drop this.
>>
>> It's absurd to say "they're all . . . " anything. Whenever I hear
>> huge
>
>>generalities about any group of people, I figure I'm listening to someone
>
>>who simply doesn't want to really look a little deeper. There are honest,
>
>>ethical people in government, and if they're outnumbered it's precisely
>
>>because as fat, comfy Americans we have been apathetic and cynical long
>
>>enough to let the crooks and liars take over.
>>
>> And even if it was true that they're ALL bad, which it isn't, I would
>
>>still be saying, "Please vote," because sometimes choosing between the
>>lesser of two evils is a life or death decision.
>>
>>Sarah
>>
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7be4$1@linux...
>>> not important. just picking from different groups of crooks
>>>
>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>> Of course. It might not be good, but important nevertheless. :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> S.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454bf3ad$1@linux...
>>>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>
>>>>>> least
>>>>>> not in my lifetime.
>>>>> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
>>>>> be important?
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>
>
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| Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75408 is a reply to message #75398] |
Sun, 05 November 2006 00:31 |
erlilo
Messages: 405
Registered: June 2005
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You're not an idiot John,
but.......................................arghhhh!!!!! Never mind;-)
I mean it's a good idea to vote, trying to change America a bit for the
worlds sake. We can all be small wheels helping the bigger ones to go around
and make a better world for us all, whereever we're living in our great,
little world of today. Especially when we have got the choice to vote, where
so many good people around the world have fighted for up against the years.
We have all heard the words "Human Rights" up against the years, but how
many of us are doing something with it? Sarah is one of them trying to do
something, where some other better wish to build or buy a doghouse for their
own world;-)
erlilo
"John" <no@no.com> skrev i melding news:454d45c4@linux...
> Yeah, I'm an idiot.
>
> Martin Harrington wrote:
>> Why don't you submit yourself for public office, John.
>> You might even be able to change the world, but wait, you could never get
>> Paris working properly, so maybe that's not such a great idea either.
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| Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75436 is a reply to message #75431] |
Sun, 05 November 2006 16:01 |
Graham Duncan
Messages: 147
Registered: December 2008
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You know John, I hear you! Maybe you should run for office?
The problem I see is this: people are for the most part pretty stupid.
Shocking, I know. Who in this country would actually read a detailed plan
of action? I think if there were enough people who demand that (over say
probably the meager 15% who care) that might happen. But that doesn't sound
like the US to me...
Who actually cares about anything if nothing really touches their daily lives?
At what point does your average citizen stand up and go to the streets?
I'm really amazed at our populace's (and my own) ability to sit comfortably
watching TV. But if you don't have a draft touching you, or if you don't
think your privacy counts for anything, then no one really cares. Sad, really.
But I feel like my own voice is pretty drowned out by complacency...
I also hope my vote is counted, even if I can't stand most of the people
I'm voting for. Would our election process stand up to world scrutiny?
No. There has to be a better way.
Oh, and while I'm on a rant, I can't stand that horrible John Mellencamp
"song" Chevrolet is hawking on TV. Oh, right, rural white dudes own the
country. We've come so far!
So, how many of us here are still using Paris?
Peace,
Graham (who is probably stupid too)
John <no@no.com> wrote:
>I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
>plan ready for scrutiny. Do you know of any? hmmmmm
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| Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75440 is a reply to message #75426] |
Sun, 05 November 2006 18:07 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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Well, you're free to vote or not, and sit around waiting for perfection
to come knocking. Hope that works out OK for you. At least you won't be
voting for someone you think is incompetent.
I'm with Sarah, definitely not sitting this one out. And since I see no
reason to trust hackable voting machines, I'm voting absentee on a paper
ballot.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
John wrote:
> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
> like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
> says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
> games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>
> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
> plan ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>
>
> hehe,
> John
>
> Jamie K wrote:
>>
>> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> Sarah wrote:
>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>> least not in my lifetime.
>>>
>>> Love,
>>>
>>> Sarah
>>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>>
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| Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75441 is a reply to message #75440] |
Sun, 05 November 2006 18:14 |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
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Ah, a voice of reason, (Remember, You Get What You Pay For...)
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:454e9689@linux...
>
> Well, you're free to vote or not, and sit around waiting for perfection to
> come knocking. Hope that works out OK for you. At least you won't be
> voting for someone you think is incompetent.
>
> I'm with Sarah, definitely not sitting this one out. And since I see no
> reason to trust hackable voting machines, I'm voting absentee on a paper
> ballot.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> John wrote:
>> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
>> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
>> like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
>> says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
>> games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>>
>> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed plan
>> ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>>
>>
>> hehe,
>> John
>>
>> Jamie K wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>> least not in my lifetime.
>>>>
>>>> Love,
>>>>
>>>> Sarah
>>>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>>>
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| Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75442 is a reply to message #75440] |
Sun, 05 November 2006 19:06 |
michael bliss
Messages: 61
Registered: September 2005
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Kinky Friedman
vote independant, but at least vote.
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>Well, you're free to vote or not, and sit around waiting for perfection
>to come knocking. Hope that works out OK for you. At least you won't be
>voting for someone you think is incompetent.
>
>I'm with Sarah, definitely not sitting this one out. And since I see no
>reason to trust hackable voting machines, I'm voting absentee on a paper
>ballot.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>John wrote:
>> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
>> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
>> like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
>> says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
>> games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>>
>> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
>> plan ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>>
>>
>> hehe,
>> John
>>
>> Jamie K wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>> least not in my lifetime.
>>>>
>>>> Love,
>>>>
>>>> Sarah
>>>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>>>
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| Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75480 is a reply to message #75440] |
Mon, 06 November 2006 10:06 |
Tony Benson
Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006
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I don't know if it's true, but I heard someone on the radio saying that
absentee ballots aren't even counted unless the margin is small enough for
them to make a difference. It doesn't sound right to me, but that's what
someone said on some radio talk show (don't even remember what show it was).
Tony
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:454e9689@linux...
>
> Well, you're free to vote or not, and sit around waiting for perfection to
> come knocking. Hope that works out OK for you. At least you won't be
> voting for someone you think is incompetent.
>
> I'm with Sarah, definitely not sitting this one out. And since I see no
> reason to trust hackable voting machines, I'm voting absentee on a paper
> ballot.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> John wrote:
>> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
>> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
>> like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
>> says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
>> games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>>
>> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed plan
>> ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>>
>>
>> hehe,
>> John
>>
>> Jamie K wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>> least not in my lifetime.
>>>>
>>>> Love,
>>>>
>>>> Sarah
>>>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>>>
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| Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75481 is a reply to message #75480] |
Mon, 06 November 2006 10:38 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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Could they have been referring to "provisional ballots" rather than
absentee ballots?
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Tony Benson wrote:
> I don't know if it's true, but I heard someone on the radio saying that
> absentee ballots aren't even counted unless the margin is small enough for
> them to make a difference. It doesn't sound right to me, but that's what
> someone said on some radio talk show (don't even remember what show it was).
>
> Tony
>
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:454e9689@linux...
>> Well, you're free to vote or not, and sit around waiting for perfection to
>> come knocking. Hope that works out OK for you. At least you won't be
>> voting for someone you think is incompetent.
>>
>> I'm with Sarah, definitely not sitting this one out. And since I see no
>> reason to trust hackable voting machines, I'm voting absentee on a paper
>> ballot.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> John wrote:
>>> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
>>> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
>>> like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
>>> says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
>>> games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>>>
>>> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed plan
>>> ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>>>
>>>
>>> hehe,
>>> John
>>>
>>> Jamie K wrote:
>>>> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>>> least not in my lifetime.
>>>>>
>>>>> Love,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sarah
>>>>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>>>>
>
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