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| Re: Hey guys.........here's something else not to do!!! [message #68881 is a reply to message #68879] |
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Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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The most stable sync I have achieved with Paris as master and Cubase SX as
slave is to run WC cables of even length (I'm using 2' Zaolla cables) from
the master clock module to the MEC(s). Then, to clock the RME card(s), just
run serial cables from the MEC ADAT sync out(s) to the RME ADAT sync inputs,
choose ADAT as the sync source in the RME control panel and it just works,
every time..........and that's really saying something because it's
reallllllll easy to destabilize this kind of system. Just one glitch and the
whole thing comes tumbling down. Simple is good...........and sooooo hard
for me to accept.
My current clocking situation has the Lucid GenX6 as master clock now and
the only deviation from the above scenario is that I've got a 10' WC cable
running from one of the Lucid clock outs to my Mytek ADC which used to be
the master clock. I need it closer to the mix position and a long cable run
from the Mytek when using it as master, to the rest of the system wasn't
quite as stable as slaving the Mytek to the Lucid clock with the longer
cable and slaving the MECs to the Lucid with short, high quality WC cables.
Since the MECs are clocking the RME's via ADAT, it's essential to have the
lock between the master and MECs as stable as possible.The Lucid has a very
good clock. I notice no difference in sound between it and the Mytek when
using the Mytek as master clock.
Damn!!!!......everything is working so well now.............what next? (nyuk
nyuk!!!)........o'yeah......I've got a mix to do!!!
;o)
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4480dfb8@linux...
> Now that was just too scary...even I understood it
>
> Don
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:4480cb73$1@linux...
> > Don't run a 15' WC cable from your master clock module to two distro
> > modules, then use another short WC cable to link the distro modules
> > together
> > and then run other WC cables of differing lengths to 3 x RME interfaces
> > and
> > 3 x MECs while also running ADAT sync cables from 3 x Paris ADAT modules
> > to
> > the ADAT sync inputs of the 3 x RME cards while the digital I/O of the
RME
> > cards, the Paris modules, all of your external spdif gear and ADAT gear
is
> > all patched into three different M-Audio Digipatch units which are daisy
> > chained to each other using spdif cables in an attempt to allow
> > simultaneous
> > clocking of everythiong from two different sources derived from the same
> > master clock while cross patching all of the digital I/O between various
> > lightpipe, coax and optical spdif devices through these digital
patchbays
> > that, BTW, don't reclock the incoming/outgoing signal.
> >
> > I know a bunch of you guys were getting ready to do this , but just say
> > no.
> >
> > (I swear there was a valid reason for trying this.........really there
> > was)
> >
> > ;oD
> >
> >
>
>
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| Re: Hey guys.........here's something else not to do!!! [message #68893 is a reply to message #68881] |
Sat, 03 June 2006 05:15 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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Hey deej, I thought at one time you were thinking that clocking with the mytek
as master sounded noticably better. Was that just wax in your ears? :o)
Rod
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>The most stable sync I have achieved with Paris as master and Cubase SX
as
>slave is to run WC cables of even length (I'm using 2' Zaolla cables) from
>the master clock module to the MEC(s). Then, to clock the RME card(s), just
>run serial cables from the MEC ADAT sync out(s) to the RME ADAT sync inputs,
>choose ADAT as the sync source in the RME control panel and it just works,
>every time..........and that's really saying something because it's
>reallllllll easy to destabilize this kind of system. Just one glitch and
the
>whole thing comes tumbling down. Simple is good...........and sooooo hard
>for me to accept.
>
>My current clocking situation has the Lucid GenX6 as master clock now and
>the only deviation from the above scenario is that I've got a 10' WC cable
>running from one of the Lucid clock outs to my Mytek ADC which used to be
>the master clock. I need it closer to the mix position and a long cable
run
>from the Mytek when using it as master, to the rest of the system wasn't
>quite as stable as slaving the Mytek to the Lucid clock with the longer
>cable and slaving the MECs to the Lucid with short, high quality WC cables.
>Since the MECs are clocking the RME's via ADAT, it's essential to have the
>lock between the master and MECs as stable as possible.The Lucid has a very
>good clock. I notice no difference in sound between it and the Mytek when
>using the Mytek as master clock.
>
>Damn!!!!......everything is working so well now.............what next? (nyuk
>nyuk!!!)........o'yeah......I've got a mix to do!!!
>
>;o)
>
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4480dfb8@linux...
>> Now that was just too scary...even I understood it
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> news:4480cb73$1@linux...
>> > Don't run a 15' WC cable from your master clock module to two distro
>> > modules, then use another short WC cable to link the distro modules
>> > together
>> > and then run other WC cables of differing lengths to 3 x RME interfaces
>> > and
>> > 3 x MECs while also running ADAT sync cables from 3 x Paris ADAT modules
>> > to
>> > the ADAT sync inputs of the 3 x RME cards while the digital I/O of the
>RME
>> > cards, the Paris modules, all of your external spdif gear and ADAT gear
>is
>> > all patched into three different M-Audio Digipatch units which are daisy
>> > chained to each other using spdif cables in an attempt to allow
>> > simultaneous
>> > clocking of everythiong from two different sources derived from the
same
>> > master clock while cross patching all of the digital I/O between various
>> > lightpipe, coax and optical spdif devices through these digital
>patchbays
>> > that, BTW, don't reclock the incoming/outgoing signal.
>> >
>> > I know a bunch of you guys were getting ready to do this , but just
say
>> > no.
>> >
>> > (I swear there was a valid reason for trying this.........really there
>> > was)
>> >
>> > ;oD
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: Hey guys.........here's something else not to do!!! [message #68903 is a reply to message #68893] |
Sat, 03 June 2006 09:16 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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The external clock sounds noticably better than the Paris clock. The Mytek
does add a bit of additional clarity to the conversion process and I may go
back to it. I'm still testing. The Lucid is doing a fine job right now
clocking the system during mixing and though I'm using AD/DA conversion with
the Multiface parched to external gear in Cubase when clocked to the Lucid,
the sound I'm getting is very good.
Deej
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:44817d73$1@linux...
>
> Hey deej, I thought at one time you were thinking that clocking with the
mytek
> as master sounded noticably better. Was that just wax in your ears? :o)
>
> Rod
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >The most stable sync I have achieved with Paris as master and Cubase SX
> as
> >slave is to run WC cables of even length (I'm using 2' Zaolla cables)
from
> >the master clock module to the MEC(s). Then, to clock the RME card(s),
just
> >run serial cables from the MEC ADAT sync out(s) to the RME ADAT sync
inputs,
> >choose ADAT as the sync source in the RME control panel and it just
works,
> >every time..........and that's really saying something because it's
> >reallllllll easy to destabilize this kind of system. Just one glitch and
> the
> >whole thing comes tumbling down. Simple is good...........and sooooo hard
> >for me to accept.
> >
> >My current clocking situation has the Lucid GenX6 as master clock now and
> >the only deviation from the above scenario is that I've got a 10' WC
cable
> >running from one of the Lucid clock outs to my Mytek ADC which used to be
> >the master clock. I need it closer to the mix position and a long cable
> run
> >from the Mytek when using it as master, to the rest of the system wasn't
> >quite as stable as slaving the Mytek to the Lucid clock with the longer
> >cable and slaving the MECs to the Lucid with short, high quality WC
cables.
> >Since the MECs are clocking the RME's via ADAT, it's essential to have
the
> >lock between the master and MECs as stable as possible.The Lucid has a
very
> >good clock. I notice no difference in sound between it and the Mytek when
> >using the Mytek as master clock.
> >
> >Damn!!!!......everything is working so well now.............what next?
(nyuk
> >nyuk!!!)........o'yeah......I've got a mix to do!!!
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >
> >"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4480dfb8@linux...
> >> Now that was just too scary...even I understood it
> >>
> >> Don
> >>
> >>
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >> news:4480cb73$1@linux...
> >> > Don't run a 15' WC cable from your master clock module to two distro
> >> > modules, then use another short WC cable to link the distro modules
> >> > together
> >> > and then run other WC cables of differing lengths to 3 x RME
interfaces
> >> > and
> >> > 3 x MECs while also running ADAT sync cables from 3 x Paris ADAT
modules
> >> > to
> >> > the ADAT sync inputs of the 3 x RME cards while the digital I/O of
the
> >RME
> >> > cards, the Paris modules, all of your external spdif gear and ADAT
gear
> >is
> >> > all patched into three different M-Audio Digipatch units which are
daisy
> >> > chained to each other using spdif cables in an attempt to allow
> >> > simultaneous
> >> > clocking of everythiong from two different sources derived from the
> same
> >> > master clock while cross patching all of the digital I/O between
various
> >> > lightpipe, coax and optical spdif devices through these digital
> >patchbays
> >> > that, BTW, don't reclock the incoming/outgoing signal.
> >> >
> >> > I know a bunch of you guys were getting ready to do this , but just
> say
> >> > no.
> >> >
> >> > (I swear there was a valid reason for trying this.........really
there
> >> > was)
> >> >
> >> > ;oD
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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| Re: Hey guys.........here's something else not to do!!! [message #68969 is a reply to message #68877] |
Mon, 05 June 2006 09:46 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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.............and when removing a heatsink from a CPU, be sure to release the
mobo zif handle or you will bend the pins on the CPU. If you do this, take a
credit card and carefully run it between the rows of pins.........best to do
this under one of those lamps with a magnifier. If none of them have broken
off the surface this will straighten them out and the CPU should drop back
in the zif slots on the CPU mount. If you don't have a credit card that is
thick enough, get yourself a knife blade of the proper width and flip it
upside down and use it in the same way, but be vewwy vewwy careful not to
score the undersurface surface of the CPU.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:4480cb73$1@linux...
> Don't run a 15' WC cable from your master clock module to two distro
> modules, then use another short WC cable to link the distro modules
together
> and then run other WC cables of differing lengths to 3 x RME interfaces
and
> 3 x MECs while also running ADAT sync cables from 3 x Paris ADAT modules
to
> the ADAT sync inputs of the 3 x RME cards while the digital I/O of the RME
> cards, the Paris modules, all of your external spdif gear and ADAT gear is
> all patched into three different M-Audio Digipatch units which are daisy
> chained to each other using spdif cables in an attempt to allow
simultaneous
> clocking of everythiong from two different sources derived from the same
> master clock while cross patching all of the digital I/O between various
> lightpipe, coax and optical spdif devices through these digital patchbays
> that, BTW, don't reclock the incoming/outgoing signal.
>
> I know a bunch of you guys were getting ready to do this , but just say
no.
>
> (I swear there was a valid reason for trying this.........really there
was)
>
> ;oD
>
>
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| Re: Hey guys.........here's something else not to do!!! [message #68973 is a reply to message #68970] |
Mon, 05 June 2006 13:27 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:44846739$1@linux...
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >............and when removing a heatsink from a CPU, be sure to release
> the
> >mobo zif handle or you will bend the pins on the CPU. If you do this,
take
> a
> >credit card and carefully run it between the rows of pins.........best to
> do
> >this under one of those lamps with a magnifier. If none of them have
broken
> >off the surface this will straighten them out and the CPU should drop
back
> >in the zif slots on the CPU mount. If you don't have a credit card that
> is
> >thick enough, get yourself a knife blade of the proper width and flip it
> >upside down and use it in the same way, but be vewwy vewwy careful not to
> >score the undersurface surface of the CPU.
>
> Pretty cool trick, Deej... however if I tried something like
> this, instead of successfully using the credit card to
> straighten out the pins, I'd probably just end up using it to
> buy another CPU lol
>
> Neil
Well, I've discovered that you can't really have too many Pultecs or CPU
cycles, so it's always a good idea to find an excuse to
upgrade..............;oP
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