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| Re: Faderworks explained !!! [message #98109 is a reply to message #98106] |
Mon, 21 April 2008 09:59   |
JeffH
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Dimitrios,
I was just wondering how Faderworks knew what was inside the wrapper so
it knows not to delay track 1 the 64 samples (I assume there was still a
faderworks instance on track 1). That's quite a trick and one I'm
willing to pay for.
wrote:
> OK
> I thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right words for
> it :)
>
> You put faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four right?)
> I put it on the first one.
> Then whatever you put on other slots it does not matter because faderworks
> always does what is supposed to do.
>
> Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks has been written
> to do this for us only BETTER !
>
> 1. You put faderworks 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.
> 2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks the put the 2in/2out faderworks.
> 3. I made a Default project with 64 (4 cards) faderworks instances already
> loaded so no hassle thereafter...
> 4. If you make a list with plugins and latencies (64 for now is more than
> enouph) these will be remembered with every new project.
> Just remember to have the button in the OFF state.
> 5. Even if you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other slots faderworks
> will do whatever is asked to do.
> 6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS:
> The default status of the plugin is to ignore the latency status for the
> track you are putting the plugin.
> For instance.
>
> A. You put a waves renvox on track 1 on slot two either standalone or from
> withing the FFX4 or chainer...
> Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64 samples.
> That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead of track
> 1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.
> NOW having in mind that you have put Faderworks on every track then BY JUST
> pushing the ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then Faderworks
> DELAYS all other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the audio
> track 1 for which faderworks ignores the latency.
> OVERALL latency is displayed on every track too !!
> It even substract latency !!!!
> So by putting a waves rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT mean
> that faderworks will delay all others again by 64 samples !! , thus overall
> latency WILL REMAIN at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 samples
> latent because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples
> for this track !!
>
> Anyone understood what I typed in here ? :)
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> eff H <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>
>>Dimitrios
>>
>>How does this function with plugins inside a wrapper, for example
>>autotune wrapped inside FFX4?
>>
>>JH
>>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I tried the beta1 and it is marvelous.
>>>It holds 64 presets with latencies so you can just click the on button
>
> anytime
>
>>>you load the plugin...
>>>Regards,
>>>Dimitrios
>
>
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| Re: Faderworks explained !!! [message #98111 is a reply to message #98109] |
Mon, 21 April 2008 10:33 |
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If I've understood correctly, I don't think Faderworks is detecting
anything. I think it relies on user input - *you* tell it what the latencies
are. It's up to you (or other users - we need a database on the Wiki) to
derive the latency. For example, you type in "Renaissance EQ" and then type
"64" for latency. If you tell it the number is 97, it would use that
instead.
Am I understanding that correctly, Dimitrios?
- Kerry
On 4/21/08 9:59 AM, in article 480ccaa6@linux, "Jeff H"
<jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
> Dimitrios,
>
> I was just wondering how Faderworks knew what was inside the wrapper so
> it knows not to delay track 1 the 64 samples (I assume there was still a
> faderworks instance on track 1). That's quite a trick and one I'm
> willing to pay for.
>
> wrote:
>> OK
>> I thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right words for
>> it :)
>>
>> You put faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four right?)
>> I put it on the first one.
>> Then whatever you put on other slots it does not matter because faderworks
>> always does what is supposed to do.
>>
>> Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks has been written
>> to do this for us only BETTER !
>>
>> 1. You put faderworks 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.
>> 2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks the put the 2in/2out faderworks.
>> 3. I made a Default project with 64 (4 cards) faderworks instances already
>> loaded so no hassle thereafter...
>> 4. If you make a list with plugins and latencies (64 for now is more than
>> enouph) these will be remembered with every new project.
>> Just remember to have the button in the OFF state.
>> 5. Even if you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other slots
>> faderworks
>> will do whatever is asked to do.
>> 6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS:
>> The default status of the plugin is to ignore the latency status for the
>> track you are putting the plugin.
>> For instance.
>>
>> A. You put a waves renvox on track 1 on slot two either standalone or from
>> withing the FFX4 or chainer...
>> Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64 samples.
>> That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead of track
>> 1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.
>> NOW having in mind that you have put Faderworks on every track then BY JUST
>> pushing the ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then Faderworks
>> DELAYS all other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the audio
>> track 1 for which faderworks ignores the latency.
>> OVERALL latency is displayed on every track too !!
>> It even substract latency !!!!
>> So by putting a waves rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT mean
>> that faderworks will delay all others again by 64 samples !! , thus overall
>> latency WILL REMAIN at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 samples
>> latent because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples
>> for this track !!
>>
>> Anyone understood what I typed in here ? :)
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>>
>> eff H <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dimitrios
>>>
>>> How does this function with plugins inside a wrapper, for example
>>> autotune wrapped inside FFX4?
>>>
>>> JH
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I tried the beta1 and it is marvelous.
>>>> It holds 64 presets with latencies so you can just click the on button
>>
>> anytime
>>
>>>> you load the plugin...
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dimitrios
>>
>>
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: Faderworks explained !!! [message #98112 is a reply to message #98106] |
Mon, 21 April 2008 10:49 |
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Dimitrios -
I set up a latency page at the Wiki with you (and FaderWorks) especially in
mind -
http://www.kerrygalloway.com/WikiPARIS/wikka.php?wakka=Nativ eLatencyDatabase
If you feel like sharing your list, just throw anything you have up there
and I'll take care of tidying/formatting.
:D
- Kerry
On 4/21/08 9:05 AM, in article 480cbb3a$1@linux, "Dimitrios"
<musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
> OK
> I thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right words for
> it :)
>
> You put faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four right?)
> I put it on the first one.
> Then whatever you put on other slots it does not matter because faderworks
> always does what is supposed to do.
>
> Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks has been written
> to do this for us only BETTER !
>
> 1. You put faderworks 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.
> 2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks the put the 2in/2out faderworks.
> 3. I made a Default project with 64 (4 cards) faderworks instances already
> loaded so no hassle thereafter...
> 4. If you make a list with plugins and latencies (64 for now is more than
> enouph) these will be remembered with every new project.
> Just remember to have the button in the OFF state.
> 5. Even if you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other slots
> faderworks
> will do whatever is asked to do.
> 6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS:
> The default status of the plugin is to ignore the latency status for the
> track you are putting the plugin.
> For instance.
>
> A. You put a waves renvox on track 1 on slot two either standalone or from
> withing the FFX4 or chainer...
> Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64 samples.
> That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead of track
> 1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.
> NOW having in mind that you have put Faderworks on every track then BY JUST
> pushing the ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then Faderworks
> DELAYS all other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the audio
> track 1 for which faderworks ignores the latency.
> OVERALL latency is displayed on every track too !!
> It even substract latency !!!!
> So by putting a waves rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT mean
> that faderworks will delay all others again by 64 samples !! , thus overall
> latency WILL REMAIN at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 samples
> latent because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples
> for this track !!
>
> Anyone understood what I typed in here ? :)
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> eff H <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>> Dimitrios
>>
>> How does this function with plugins inside a wrapper, for example
>> autotune wrapped inside FFX4?
>>
>> JH
>>
>> wrote:
>>> I tried the beta1 and it is marvelous.
>>> It holds 64 presets with latencies so you can just click the on button
> anytime
>>> you load the plugin...
>>> Regards,
>>> Dimitrios
>
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: Faderworks explained !!! [message #98117 is a reply to message #98106] |
Mon, 21 April 2008 16:19 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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Dimitrios,
This all makes sense. Thank you for that. Now do the
Paris automation lines still work on plugins that are being
compensated for with Faderworks or is the gui screwey?
Meaning the time is offset?
When using stereo instances of Faderworks do you actually
hit the 'Stereo X box" in the Paris plugin gui or assign another
mono instance for the adjacent channel? This has caused trouble=20
in my experience with mono/stereo combinations and Paris.
Thanks for your answers and when should it be available?
I'm ready!
Tom=20
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:480cbb3a$1@linux...
OK
I thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right words =
for
it :)
You put faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four right?)
I put it on the first one.
Then whatever you put on other slots it does not matter because =
faderworks
always does what is supposed to do.
Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks has been =
written
to do this for us only BETTER !
1. You put faderworks 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.
2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks the put the 2in/2out =
faderworks.
3. I made a Default project with 64 (4 cards) faderworks instances =
already
loaded so no hassle thereafter...
4. If you make a list with plugins and latencies (64 for now is more =
than
enouph) these will be remembered with every new project.
Just remember to have the button in the OFF state.
5. Even if you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other slots =
faderworks
will do whatever is asked to do.
6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS:
The default status of the plugin is to ignore the latency status for =
the
track you are putting the plugin.
For instance.
A. You put a waves renvox on track 1 on slot two either standalone or =
from
withing the FFX4 or chainer...
Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64 samples.
That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead of =
track
1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.
NOW having in mind that you have put Faderworks on every track then BY =
JUST
pushing the ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then =
Faderworks
DELAYS all other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the =
audio
track 1 for which faderworks ignores the latency.
OVERALL latency is displayed on every track too !!
It even substract latency !!!!
So by putting a waves rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT =
mean
that faderworks will delay all others again by 64 samples !! , thus =
overall
latency WILL REMAIN at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 =
samples
latent because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 =
samples
for this track !!
Anyone understood what I typed in here ? :)
Regards,
Dimitrios=20
eff H <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>Dimitrios
>
>How does this function with plugins inside a wrapper, for example=20
>autotune wrapped inside FFX4?
>
>JH
>
>wrote:
>> I tried the beta1 and it is marvelous.
>> It holds 64 presets with latencies so you can just click the on =
button
anytime
>> you load the plugin...
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm ready!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
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because of=20
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!!<BR><BR>Anyone understood what I typed in here ? =
:)<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios=20
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| Re: Faderworks explained !!! [message #98148 is a reply to message #98117] |
Wed, 23 April 2008 04:41 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
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Dear Tom,
This is just a plugin so the latencies are just added afterall.
So the automation could be made before doing any faderworks job and then
after putting all plugins with their latencies you just look at the overall
latency and offset the automation for that amount.
I don't know when this will be released...
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Dimitrios,
>This all makes sense. Thank you for that. Now do the
>Paris automation lines still work on plugins that are being
>compensated for with Faderworks or is the gui screwey?
>Meaning the time is offset?
>
>When using stereo instances of Faderworks do you actually
>hit the 'Stereo X box" in the Paris plugin gui or assign another
>mono instance for the adjacent channel? This has caused trouble=20
>in my experience with mono/stereo combinations and Paris.
>
>Thanks for your answers and when should it be available?
>I'm ready!
>
>Tom=20
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
>news:480cbb3a$1@linux...
>
> OK
> I thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right words
=
>for
> it :)
>
> You put faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four right?)
> I put it on the first one.
> Then whatever you put on other slots it does not matter because =
>faderworks
> always does what is supposed to do.
>
> Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks has been =
>written
> to do this for us only BETTER !
>
> 1. You put faderworks 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.
> 2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks the put the 2in/2out =
>faderworks.
> 3. I made a Default project with 64 (4 cards) faderworks instances =
>already
> loaded so no hassle thereafter...
> 4. If you make a list with plugins and latencies (64 for now is more =
>than
> enouph) these will be remembered with every new project.
> Just remember to have the button in the OFF state.
> 5. Even if you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other slots
=
>faderworks
> will do whatever is asked to do.
> 6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS:
> The default status of the plugin is to ignore the latency status for
=
>the
> track you are putting the plugin.
> For instance.
>
> A. You put a waves renvox on track 1 on slot two either standalone or
=
>from
> withing the FFX4 or chainer...
> Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64 samples.
> That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead of =
>track
> 1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.
> NOW having in mind that you have put Faderworks on every track then BY
=
>JUST
> pushing the ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then =
>Faderworks
> DELAYS all other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the =
>audio
> track 1 for which faderworks ignores the latency.
> OVERALL latency is displayed on every track too !!
> It even substract latency !!!!
> So by putting a waves rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT =
>mean
> that faderworks will delay all others again by 64 samples !! , thus =
>overall
> latency WILL REMAIN at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 =
>samples
> latent because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 =
>samples
> for this track !!
>
> Anyone understood what I typed in here ? :)
> Regards,
> Dimitrios=20
>
> eff H <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
> >Dimitrios
> >
> >How does this function with plugins inside a wrapper, for example=20
> >autotune wrapped inside FFX4?
> >
> >JH
> >
> >wrote:
> >> I tried the beta1 and it is marvelous.
> >> It holds 64 presets with latencies so you can just click the on =
>button
> anytime
> >> you load the plugin...
> >> Regards,
> >> Dimitrios
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This all makes sense. Thank you =
>for=20
>that. Now do the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris automation lines still work on =
>plugins that=20
>are being</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>compensated for with Faderworks or is =
>the gui=20
>screwey?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Meaning the time is =
>offset?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When using stereo instances of =
>Faderworks do you=20
>actually</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hit the 'Stereo X box" in the Paris =
>plugin gui or=20
>assign another</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mono instance for the adjacent =
>channel? This=20
>has caused trouble </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in my experience </FONT><FONT =
>face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>with mono/stereo combinations and Paris.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for your answers and when should
=
>it be=20
>available?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm ready!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
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> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
>message=20
> <A =
>href=3D"news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>OK<B=
>R>I=20
> thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right words =
>for<BR>it=20
> :)<BR><BR>You put faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four
=
>
> right?)<BR>I put it on the first one.<BR>Then whatever you put on =
>other slots=20
> it does not matter because faderworks<BR>always does what is supposed
=
>to=20
> do.<BR><BR>Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks has
=
>been=20
> written<BR>to do this for us only BETTER !<BR><BR>1. You put =
>faderworks=20
> 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.<BR>2. If you wanna use a stereo =
>pair of=20
> tracks the put the 2in/2out faderworks.<BR>3. I made a Default project
=
>with 64=20
> (4 cards) faderworks instances already<BR>loaded so no hassle=20
> thereafter...<BR>4. If you make a list with plugins and latencies (64
=
>for now=20
> is more than<BR>enouph) these will be remembered with every new=20
> project.<BR>Just remember to have the button in the OFF state.<BR>5. =
>Even if=20
> you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other slots =
>faderworks<BR>will=20
> do whatever is asked to do.<BR>6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS:<BR>The
=
>default=20
> status of the plugin is to ignore the latency status for =
>the<BR>track=20
> you are putting the plugin.<BR>For instance.<BR><BR>A. You put a waves
=
>renvox=20
> on track 1 on slot two either standalone or from<BR>withing the FFX4 =
>or=20
> chainer...<BR>Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64=20
> samples.<BR>That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 =
>samples ahead=20
> of track<BR>1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.<BR>NOW =
>having in=20
> mind that you have put Faderworks on every track then BY =
>JUST<BR>pushing the=20
> ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then Faderworks<BR>DELAYS
=
>all=20
> other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the =
>audio<BR>track 1 for=20
> which faderworks ignores the latency.<BR>OVERALL latency is displayed
=
>on every=20
> track too !!<BR>It even substract latency !!!!<BR>So by putting a =
>waves=20
> rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT mean<BR>that faderworks
=
>will=20
> delay all others again by 64 samples !! , thus overall<BR>latency WILL
=
>REMAIN=20
> at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 samples<BR>latent =
>because of=20
> track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples<BR>for this =
>track=20
> !!<BR><BR>Anyone understood what I typed in here ? =
>:)<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios=20
> <BR><BR>eff H <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>>How does this function with =
>plugins=20
> inside a wrapper, for example <BR>>autotune wrapped inside=20
> FFX4?<BR>><BR>>JH<BR>><BR>>wrote:<BR>>> I tried the =
>beta1=20
> and it is marvelous.<BR>>> It holds 64 presets with latencies so =
>you can=20
> just click the on button<BR>anytime<BR>>> you load the=20
> plugin...<BR>>> Regards,<BR>>> Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>and=20
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| Re: Faderworks explained !!! [message #98155 is a reply to message #98148] |
Wed, 23 April 2008 11:37 |
Tom Bruhl
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It has been released today. =20
Get it while it's hot!
Tom
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:480f206e$1@linux...
Dear Tom,
This is just a plugin so the latencies are just added afterall.
So the automation could be made before doing any faderworks job and =
then
after putting all plugins with their latencies you just look at the =
overall
latency and offset the automation for that amount.
I don't know when this will be released...
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Dimitrios,
>This all makes sense. Thank you for that. Now do the
>Paris automation lines still work on plugins that are being
>compensated for with Faderworks or is the gui screwey?
>Meaning the time is offset?
>
>When using stereo instances of Faderworks do you actually
>hit the 'Stereo X box" in the Paris plugin gui or assign another
>mono instance for the adjacent channel? This has caused trouble=3D20
>in my experience with mono/stereo combinations and Paris.
>
>Thanks for your answers and when should it be available?
>I'm ready!
>
>Tom=3D20
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =3D
>news:480cbb3a$1@linux...
>
> OK
> I thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right =
words
=3D
>for
> it :)
>
> You put faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four =
right?)
> I put it on the first one.
> Then whatever you put on other slots it does not matter because =3D
>faderworks
> always does what is supposed to do.
>
> Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks has been =
=3D
>written
> to do this for us only BETTER !
>
> 1. You put faderworks 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.
> 2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks the put the 2in/2out =
=3D
>faderworks.
> 3. I made a Default project with 64 (4 cards) faderworks instances =
=3D
>already
> loaded so no hassle thereafter...
> 4. If you make a list with plugins and latencies (64 for now is =
more =3D
>than
> enouph) these will be remembered with every new project.
> Just remember to have the button in the OFF state.
> 5. Even if you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other =
slots
=3D
>faderworks
> will do whatever is asked to do.
> 6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS:
> The default status of the plugin is to ignore the latency status =
for
=3D
>the
> track you are putting the plugin.
> For instance.
>
> A. You put a waves renvox on track 1 on slot two either standalone =
or
=3D
>from
> withing the FFX4 or chainer...
> Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64 samples.
> That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead =
of =3D
>track
> 1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.
> NOW having in mind that you have put Faderworks on every track then =
BY
=3D
>JUST
> pushing the ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then =3D
>Faderworks
> DELAYS all other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact =
the =3D
>audio
> track 1 for which faderworks ignores the latency.
> OVERALL latency is displayed on every track too !!
> It even substract latency !!!!
> So by putting a waves rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT =
=3D
>mean
> that faderworks will delay all others again by 64 samples !! , thus =
=3D
>overall
> latency WILL REMAIN at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was already =
64 =3D
>samples
> latent because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 =
=3D
>samples
> for this track !!
>
> Anyone understood what I typed in here ? :)
> Regards,
> Dimitrios=3D20
>
> eff H <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
> >Dimitrios
> >
> >How does this function with plugins inside a wrapper, for =
example=3D20
> >autotune wrapped inside FFX4?
> >
> >JH
> >
> >wrote:
> >> I tried the beta1 and it is marvelous.
> >> It holds 64 presets with latencies so you can just click the on =
=3D
>button
> anytime
> >> you load the plugin...
> >> Regards,
> >> Dimitrios
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This all makes sense. Thank you =
=3D
>for=3D20
>that. Now do the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Paris automation lines still =
work on =3D
>plugins that=3D20
>are being</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>compensated for with Faderworks =
or is =3D
>the gui=3D20
>screwey?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Meaning the time is =3D
>offset?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>When using stereo instances of =
=3D
>Faderworks do you=3D20
>actually</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>hit the 'Stereo X box" in the =
Paris =3D
>plugin gui or=3D20
>assign another</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>mono instance for the adjacent =
=3D
>channel? This=3D20
>has caused trouble </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>in my experience </FONT><FONT =
=3D
>face=3D3DArial=3D20
>size=3D3D2>with mono/stereo combinations and Paris.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for your answers and when =
should
=3D
>it be=3D20
>available?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm ready!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote =
in =3D
>message=3D20
> <A =3D
=
>href=3D3D"news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>O=
K<B=3D
>R>I=3D20
> thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right words =
=3D
>for<BR>it=3D20
> :)<BR><BR>You put faderworks on one of the native slots (you have =
four
=3D
>
> right?)<BR>I put it on the first one.<BR>Then whatever you put on =
=3D
>other slots=3D20
> it does not matter because faderworks<BR>always does what is =
supposed
=3D
>to=3D20
> do.<BR><BR>Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks =
has
=3D
>been=3D20
> written<BR>to do this for us only BETTER !<BR><BR>1. You put =3D
>faderworks=3D20
> 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.<BR>2. If you wanna use a =
stereo =3D
>pair of=3D20
> tracks the put the 2in/2out faderworks.<BR>3. I made a Default =
project
=3D
>with 64=3D20
> (4 cards) faderworks instances already<BR>loaded so no hassle=3D20
> thereafter...<BR>4. If you make a list with plugins and latencies =
(64
=3D
>for now=3D20
> is more than<BR>enouph) these will be remembered with every =
new=3D20
> project.<BR>Just remember to have the button in the OFF =
state.<BR>5. =3D
>Even if=3D20
> you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other slots =3D
>faderworks<BR>will=3D20
> do whatever is asked to do.<BR>6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY =
WORKS:<BR>The
=3D
>default=3D20
> status of the plugin is to ignore the latency status for =3D
>the<BR>track=3D20
> you are putting the plugin.<BR>For instance.<BR><BR>A. You put a =
waves
=3D
>renvox=3D20
> on track 1 on slot two either standalone or from<BR>withing the =
FFX4 =3D
>or=3D20
> chainer...<BR>Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is =
64=3D20
> samples.<BR>That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 =3D
>samples ahead=3D20
> of track<BR>1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.<BR>NOW =
=3D
>having in=3D20
> mind that you have put Faderworks on every track then BY =3D
>JUST<BR>pushing the=3D20
> ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then =
Faderworks<BR>DELAYS
=3D
>all=3D20
> other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the =3D
>audio<BR>track 1 for=3D20
> which faderworks ignores the latency.<BR>OVERALL latency is =
displayed
=3D
>on every=3D20
> track too !!<BR>It even substract latency !!!!<BR>So by putting a =
=3D
>waves=3D20
> rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT mean<BR>that =
faderworks
=3D
>will=3D20
> delay all others again by 64 samples !! , thus overall<BR>latency =
WILL
=3D
>REMAIN=3D20
> at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 samples<BR>latent =
=3D
>because of=3D20
> track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples<BR>for this =
=3D
>track=3D20
> !!<BR><BR>Anyone understood what I typed in here ? =3D
>:)<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios=3D20
> <BR><BR>eff H <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>>How does this function with =3D
>plugins=3D20
> inside a wrapper, for example <BR>>autotune wrapped inside=3D20
> FFX4?<BR>><BR>>JH<BR>><BR>>wrote:<BR>>> I tried the =3D
>beta1=3D20
> and it is marvelous.<BR>>> It holds 64 presets with latencies so =
=3D
>you can=3D20
> just click the on button<BR>anytime<BR>>> you load the=3D20
> plugin...<BR>>> Regards,<BR>>> Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, =3D
>and=3D20
>you?<BR><A=3D20
=
>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It has been released today. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Get it while it's hot!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
message=20
<A =
href=3D"news:480f206e$1@linux">news:480f206e$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Dear=
=20
Tom,<BR>This is just a plugin so the latencies are just added =
afterall.<BR>So=20
the automation could be made before doing any faderworks job and =
then<BR>after=20
putting all plugins with their latencies you just look at the=20
overall<BR>latency and offset the automation for that amount.<BR>I =
don't know=20
when this will be released...<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR><BR>"Tom =
Bruhl"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR >>This all makes =
sense. =20
Thank you for that. Now do the<BR>>Paris automation lines =
still work=20
on plugins that are being<BR>>compensated for with Faderworks or is =
the gui=20
screwey?<BR>>Meaning the time is offset?<BR>><BR>>When using =
stereo=20
instances of Faderworks do you actually<BR>>hit the 'Stereo X box" =
in the=20
Paris plugin gui or assign another<BR>>mono instance for the =
adjacent=20
channel? This has caused trouble=3D20<BR>>in my experience =
with=20
mono/stereo combinations and Paris.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for your =
answers and=20
when should it be available?<BR>>I'm=20
ready!<BR>><BR>>Tom=3D20<BR>><BR >> "Dimitrios" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
message=20
=3D<BR>>news:480cbb3a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> =
OK<BR>> I=20
thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right=20
words<BR>=3D<BR>>for<BR>> it :)<BR>><BR>> You =
put=20
faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four =
right?)<BR>> I=20
put it on the first one.<BR>> Then whatever you put on other =
slots it=20
does not matter because =3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>> always =
does what is=20
supposed to do.<BR>><BR>> Tom, yes why should you use =
sampleslide=20
when Faderworks has been =3D<BR>>written<BR>> to do this =
for us only=20
BETTER !<BR>><BR>> 1. You put faderworks 1in/1out on every =
Paris=20
audio track.<BR>> 2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks =
the put=20
the 2in/2out =3D<BR>>faderworks.<BR>> 3. I made a Default =
project=20
with 64 (4 cards) faderworks instances =
=3D<BR>>already<BR>> loaded=20
so no hassle thereafter...<BR>> 4. If you make a list with =
plugins=20
and latencies (64 for now is more =3D<BR>>than<BR>> =
enouph) these=20
will be remembered with every new project.<BR>> Just remember =
to have=20
the button in the OFF state.<BR>> 5. Even if you use FFX4 =
and/or=20
chainer or other wrpper on other =
slots<BR>=3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>> =20
will do whatever is asked to do.<BR>> 6 HERE IS HOW IT =
ACTUALLY=20
WORKS:<BR>> The default status of the plugin is to =
ignore the=20
latency status for<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> track you are =
putting the=20
plugin.<BR>> For instance.<BR>><BR>> A. You put a =
waves=20
renvox on track 1 on slot two either standalone=20
or<BR>=3D<BR>>from<BR>> withing the FFX4 or =
chainer...<BR>> =20
Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64 =
samples.<BR>> =20
That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead of=20
=3D<BR>>track<BR>> 1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample=20
latent.<BR>> NOW having in mind that you have put Faderworks =
on every=20
track then BY<BR>=3D<BR>>JUST<BR>> pushing the ON button =
track 1 of=20
the Waves renvox preset then =3D<BR>>Faderworks<BR>> =
DELAYS all=20
other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the=20
=3D<BR>>audio<BR>> track 1 for which faderworks ignores =
the=20
latency.<BR>> OVERALL latency is displayed on every track too =
!!<BR>> It even substract latency !!!!<BR>> So by =
putting a=20
waves rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT=20
=3D<BR>>mean<BR>> that faderworks will delay all others =
again by 64=20
samples !! , thus =3D<BR>>overall<BR>> latency WILL REMAIN =
at 64=20
samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 =
=3D<BR>>samples<BR>> =20
latent because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64=20
=3D<BR>>samples<BR>> for this track =
!!<BR>><BR>> Anyone=20
understood what I typed in here ? :)<BR>> =
Regards,<BR>> =20
Dimitrios=3D20<BR>><BR>> eff H <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> >Dimitrios<BR>> ><BR>> =
>How=20
does this function with plugins inside a wrapper, for =
example=3D20<BR>> =20
>autotune wrapped inside FFX4?<BR>> ><BR>> =20
>JH<BR>> ><BR>> >wrote:<BR>> =
>> I=20
tried the beta1 and it is marvelous.<BR>> >> It holds =
64=20
presets with latencies so you can just click the on=20
=3D<BR>>button<BR>> anytime<BR>> >> you =
load the=20
plugin...<BR>> >> Regards,<BR>> >>=20
Dimitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight=20
spam, and you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
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ONT=20
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=3D<BR>>for=3D20<BR>>that. Now do=20
the</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>Paris automation lines still work on =3D<BR>>plugins=20
that=3D20<BR>>are =
being</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>compensated for with Faderworks or is =
=3D<BR>>the=20
=
gui=3D20<BR>>screwey?</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><F=
ONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Meaning the time is=20
=3D<BR>>offset?</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>When using stereo instances of =
=3D<BR>>Faderworks do=20
=
you=3D20<BR>>actually</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><F=
ONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>hit the 'Stereo X box" in the Paris =
=3D<BR>>plugin=20
gui or=3D20<BR>>assign=20
another</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>mono instance for the adjacent =3D<BR>>channel? =
This=3D20<BR>>has caused trouble=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>in my experience </FONT><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>size=3D3D2>with mono/stereo =
combinations and=20
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Thanks for your answers and when should<BR>=3D<BR>>it =
=
be=3D20<BR>>available?</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><=
FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm=20
ready!</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
=
</DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR >>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
0px;=20
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
2px solid;=20
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Dimitrios"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
wrote in =3D<BR>>message=3D20<BR>> <A =
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>OK<B=
'>news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
;<BR>OK<B</A>=3D<BR>>R>I=3D20 <BR>> =20
thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right words=20
=3D<BR>>for<BR>it=3D20<BR>> =
:)<BR><BR>You put=20
faderworks on one of the native slots (you have=20
four<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>> right?)<BR>I put it on the =
first=20
one.<BR>Then whatever you put on =3D<BR>>other =
slots=3D20<BR>> =20
it does not matter because faderworks<BR>always does what is=20
supposed<BR>=3D<BR>>to=3D20<BR>> =
do.<BR><BR>Tom, yes why=20
should you use sampleslide when Faderworks=20
has<BR>=3D<BR>>been=3D20<BR>> written<BR>to do this =
for us only=20
BETTER !<BR><BR>1. You put =
=3D<BR>>faderworks=3D20<BR>> =20
1in/1out on every Paris audio track.<BR>2. If you wanna use a =
stereo=20
=3D<BR>>pair of=3D20<BR>> tracks the put the 2in/2out=20
faderworks.<BR>3. I made a Default project<BR>=3D<BR>>with=20
64=3D20<BR>> (4 cards) faderworks instances =
already<BR>loaded so=20
no hassle=3D20<BR>> thereafter...<BR>4. If you make a =
list with=20
plugins and latencies (64<BR>=3D<BR>>for now=3D20<BR>> is =
more=20
than<BR>enouph) these will be remembered with every =
new=3D20<BR>> =20
project.<BR>Just remember to have the button in the OFF=20
state.<BR>5. =3D<BR>>Even if=3D20<BR>> you use FFX4 =
and/or=20
chainer or other wrpper on other slots=20
=3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>will=3D20<BR>> do whatever is =
asked to=20
do.<BR>6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY=20
WORKS:<BR>The<BR>=3D<BR>>default=3D20 <BR>> status of =
the plugin=20
is to ignore the latency status for=20
=3D<BR>>the<BR>track=3D20<BR>> you are putting the=20
plugin.<BR>For instance.<BR><BR>A. You put a=20
waves<BR>=3D<BR>>renvox=3D20<BR>> on track 1 on slot two =
either=20
standalone or from<BR>withing the FFX4 =
=3D<BR>>or=3D20<BR>> =20
chainer...<BR>Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is=20
64=3D20<BR>> samples.<BR>That MEANS that all other =
Paris audio=20
tracks are 64 =3D<BR>>samples ahead=3D20<BR>> of =
track<BR>1 or=20
if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.<BR>NOW =
=3D<BR>>having=20
in=3D20<BR>> mind that you have put Faderworks on every track =
then BY=20
=3D<BR>>JUST<BR>pushing the=3D20<BR>> ON button =
track 1 of the=20
Waves renvox preset then=20
Faderworks<BR>DELAYS<BR>=3D<BR>>all=3D20 <BR>> other =
Paris audio=20
tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the =
=3D<BR>>audio<BR>track 1=20
for=3D20<BR>> which faderworks ignores the =
latency.<BR>OVERALL=20
latency is displayed<BR>=3D<BR>>on every=3D20<BR>> track =
too=20
!!<BR>It even substract latency !!!!<BR>So by putting a=20
=3D<BR>>waves=3D20<BR>> rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 =
that does NOT=20
mean<BR>that faderworks<BR>=3D<BR>>will=3D20<BR>> =
delay all=20
others again by 64 samples !! , thus overall<BR>latency=20
WILL<BR>=3D<BR>>REMAIN=3D20<BR>> at 64 samples, ONLY track =
2 which was=20
already 64 samples<BR>latent =3D<BR>>because =
of=3D20<BR>> track=20
1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples<BR>for this=20
=3D<BR>>track=3D20<BR>> !!<BR><BR>Anyone =
understood what I=20
typed in here ?=20
=3D<BR> >:)<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitr ios=3D20 <BR>> =20
<BR><BR>eff H <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t; =20
wrote:<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>& amp;gt;<BR>>How does this =
function with =3D<BR>>plugins=3D20<BR>> inside a wrapper, =
for example=20
<BR>>autotune wrapped inside=3D20<BR>> =20
=
FFX4?<BR>><BR>>JH& amp;lt;BR>><BR>>wrote:&am p;lt;=
BR>>>=20
I tried the =3D<BR>>beta1=3D20<BR>> and it is=20
marvelous.<BR>>> It holds 64 presets with latencies so=20
=3D<BR>>you can=3D20<BR>> just click the on=20
button<BR>anytime<BR>>&am p;gt; you load =
the=3D20<BR>> =20
plugin...<BR>>> Regards,<BR>>>=20
Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam,=20
=
=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20 <BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
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D.,
How do you offset the automation after it's been written?
The king of stupid questions.
Tom
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:480f206e$1@linux...
Dear Tom,
This is just a plugin so the latencies are just added afterall.
So the automation could be made before doing any faderworks job and =
then
after putting all plugins with their latencies you just look at the =
overall
latency and offset the automation for that amount.
I don't know when this will be released...
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Dimitrios,
>This all makes sense. Thank you for that. Now do the
>Paris automation lines still work on plugins that are being
>compensated for with Faderworks or is the gui screwey?
>Meaning the time is offset?
>
>When using stereo instances of Faderworks do you actually
>hit the 'Stereo X box" in the Paris plugin gui or assign another
>mono instance for the adjacent channel? This has caused trouble=3D20
>in my experience with mono/stereo combinations and Paris.
>
>Thanks for your answers and when should it be available?
>I'm ready!
>
>Tom=3D20
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =3D
>news:480cbb3a$1@linux...
>
> OK
> I thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right =
words
=3D
>for
> it :)
>
> You put faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four =
right?)
> I put it on the first one.
> Then whatever you put on other slots it does not matter because =3D
>faderworks
> always does what is supposed to do.
>
> Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks has been =
=3D
>written
> to do this for us only BETTER !
>
> 1. You put faderworks 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.
> 2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks the put the 2in/2out =
=3D
>faderworks.
> 3. I made a Default project with 64 (4 cards) faderworks instances =
=3D
>already
> loaded so no hassle thereafter...
> 4. If you make a list with plugins and latencies (64 for now is =
more =3D
>than
> enouph) these will be remembered with every new project.
> Just remember to have the button in the OFF state.
> 5. Even if you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other =
slots
=3D
>faderworks
> will do whatever is asked to do.
> 6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS:
> The default status of the plugin is to ignore the latency status =
for
=3D
>the
> track you are putting the plugin.
> For instance.
>
> A. You put a waves renvox on track 1 on slot two either standalone =
or
=3D
>from
> withing the FFX4 or chainer...
> Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64 samples.
> That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead =
of =3D
>track
> 1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.
> NOW having in mind that you have put Faderworks on every track then =
BY
=3D
>JUST
> pushing the ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then =3D
>Faderworks
> DELAYS all other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact =
the =3D
>audio
> track 1 for which faderworks ignores the latency.
> OVERALL latency is displayed on every track too !!
> It even substract latency !!!!
> So by putting a waves rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT =
=3D
>mean
> that faderworks will delay all others again by 64 samples !! , thus =
=3D
>overall
> latency WILL REMAIN at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was already =
64 =3D
>samples
> latent because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 =
=3D
>samples
> for this track !!
>
> Anyone understood what I typed in here ? :)
> Regards,
> Dimitrios=3D20
>
> eff H <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
> >Dimitrios
> >
> >How does this function with plugins inside a wrapper, for =
example=3D20
> >autotune wrapped inside FFX4?
> >
> >JH
> >
> >wrote:
> >> I tried the beta1 and it is marvelous.
> >> It holds 64 presets with latencies so you can just click the on =
=3D
>button
> anytime
> >> you load the plugin...
> >> Regards,
> >> Dimitrios
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This all makes sense. Thank you =
=3D
>for=3D20
>that. Now do the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Paris automation lines still =
work on =3D
>plugins that=3D20
>are being</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>compensated for with Faderworks =
or is =3D
>the gui=3D20
>screwey?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Meaning the time is =3D
>offset?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>When using stereo instances of =
=3D
>Faderworks do you=3D20
>actually</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>hit the 'Stereo X box" in the =
Paris =3D
>plugin gui or=3D20
>assign another</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>mono instance for the adjacent =
=3D
>channel? This=3D20
>has caused trouble </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>in my experience </FONT><FONT =
=3D
>face=3D3DArial=3D20
>size=3D3D2>with mono/stereo combinations and Paris.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for your answers and when =
should
=3D
>it be=3D20
>available?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm ready!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote =
in =3D
>message=3D20
> <A =3D
=
>href=3D3D"news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>O=
K<B=3D
>R>I=3D20
> thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right words =
=3D
>for<BR>it=3D20
> :)<BR><BR>You put faderworks on one of the native slots (you have =
four
=3D
>
> right?)<BR>I put it on the first one.<BR>Then whatever you put on =
=3D
>other slots=3D20
> it does not matter because faderworks<BR>always does what is =
supposed
=3D
>to=3D20
> do.<BR><BR>Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks =
has
=3D
>been=3D20
> written<BR>to do this for us only BETTER !<BR><BR>1. You put =3D
>faderworks=3D20
> 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.<BR>2. If you wanna use a =
stereo =3D
>pair of=3D20
> tracks the put the 2in/2out faderworks.<BR>3. I made a Default =
project
=3D
>with 64=3D20
> (4 cards) faderworks instances already<BR>loaded so no hassle=3D20
> thereafter...<BR>4. If you make a list with plugins and latencies =
(64
=3D
>for now=3D20
> is more than<BR>enouph) these will be remembered with every =
new=3D20
> project.<BR>Just remember to have the button in the OFF =
state.<BR>5. =3D
>Even if=3D20
> you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other slots =3D
>faderworks<BR>will=3D20
> do whatever is asked to do.<BR>6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY =
WORKS:<BR>The
=3D
>default=3D20
> status of the plugin is to ignore the latency status for =3D
>the<BR>track=3D20
> you are putting the plugin.<BR>For instance.<BR><BR>A. You put a =
waves
=3D
>renvox=3D20
> on track 1 on slot two either standalone or from<BR>withing the =
FFX4 =3D
>or=3D20
> chainer...<BR>Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is =
64=3D20
> samples.<BR>That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 =3D
>samples ahead=3D20
> of track<BR>1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.<BR>NOW =
=3D
>having in=3D20
> mind that you have put Faderworks on every track then BY =3D
>JUST<BR>pushing the=3D20
> ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then =
Faderworks<BR>DELAYS
=3D
>all=3D20
> other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the =3D
>audio<BR>track 1 for=3D20
> which faderworks ignores the latency.<BR>OVERALL latency is =
displayed
=3D
>on every=3D20
> track too !!<BR>It even substract latency !!!!<BR>So by putting a =
=3D
>waves=3D20
> rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT mean<BR>that =
faderworks
=3D
>will=3D20
> delay all others again by 64 samples !! , thus overall<BR>latency =
WILL
=3D
>REMAIN=3D20
> at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 samples<BR>latent =
=3D
>because of=3D20
> track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples<BR>for this =
=3D
>track=3D20
> !!<BR><BR>Anyone understood what I typed in here ? =3D
>:)<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios=3D20
> <BR><BR>eff H <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>>How does this function with =3D
>plugins=3D20
> inside a wrapper, for example <BR>>autotune wrapped inside=3D20
> FFX4?<BR>><BR>>JH<BR>><BR>>wrote:<BR>>> I tried the =3D
>beta1=3D20
> and it is marvelous.<BR>>> It holds 64 presets with latencies so =
=3D
>you can=3D20
> just click the on button<BR>anytime<BR>>> you load the=3D20
> plugin...<BR>>> Regards,<BR>>> Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, =3D
>and=3D20
>you?<BR><A=3D20
=
>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How do you offset the automation after =
it's been=20
written?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The king of stupid =
questions.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
message=20
<A =
href=3D"news:480f206e$1@linux">news:480f206e$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Dear=
=20
Tom,<BR>This is just a plugin so the latencies are just added =
afterall.<BR>So=20
the automation could be made before doing any faderworks job and =
then<BR>after=20
putting all plugins with their latencies you just look at the=20
overall<BR>latency and offset the automation for that amount.<BR>I =
don't know=20
when this will be released...<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR><BR>"Tom =
Bruhl"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR >>This all makes =
sense. =20
Thank you for that. Now do the<BR>>Paris automation lines =
still work=20
on plugins that are being<BR>>compensated for with Faderworks or is =
the gui=20
screwey?<BR>>Meaning the time is offset?<BR>><BR>>When using =
stereo=20
instances of Faderworks do you actually<BR>>hit the 'Stereo X box" =
in the=20
Paris plugin gui or assign another<BR>>mono instance for the =
adjacent=20
channel? This has caused trouble=3D20<BR>>in my experience =
with=20
mono/stereo combinations and Paris.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for your =
answers and=20
when should it be available?<BR>>I'm=20
ready!<BR>><BR>>Tom=3D20<BR>><BR >> "Dimitrios" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
message=20
=3D<BR>>news:480cbb3a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> =
OK<BR>> I=20
thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right=20
words<BR>=3D<BR>>for<BR>> it :)<BR>><BR>> You =
put=20
faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four =
right?)<BR>> I=20
put it on the first one.<BR>> Then whatever you put on other =
slots it=20
does not matter because =3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>> always =
does what is=20
supposed to do.<BR>><BR>> Tom, yes why should you use =
sampleslide=20
when Faderworks has been =3D<BR>>written<BR>> to do this =
for us only=20
BETTER !<BR>><BR>> 1. You put faderworks 1in/1out on every =
Paris=20
audio track.<BR>> 2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks =
the put=20
the 2in/2out =3D<BR>>faderworks.<BR>> 3. I made a Default =
project=20
with 64 (4 cards) faderworks instances =
=3D<BR>>already<BR>> loaded=20
so no hassle thereafter...<BR>> 4. If you make a list with =
plugins=20
and latencies (64 for now is more =3D<BR>>than<BR>> =
enouph) these=20
will be remembered with every new project.<BR>> Just remember =
to have=20
the button in the OFF state.<BR>> 5. Even if you use FFX4 =
and/or=20
chainer or other wrpper on other =
slots<BR>=3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>> =20
will do whatever is asked to do.<BR>> 6 HERE IS HOW IT =
ACTUALLY=20
WORKS:<BR>> The default status of the plugin is to =
ignore the=20
latency status for<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> track you are =
putting the=20
plugin.<BR>> For instance.<BR>><BR>> A. You put a =
waves=20
renvox on track 1 on slot two either standalone=20
or<BR>=3D<BR>>from<BR>> withing the FFX4 or =
chainer...<BR>> =20
Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64 =
samples.<BR>> =20
That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead of=20
=3D<BR>>track<BR>> 1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample=20
latent.<BR>> NOW having in mind that you have put Faderworks =
on every=20
track then BY<BR>=3D<BR>>JUST<BR>> pushing the ON button =
track 1 of=20
the Waves renvox preset then =3D<BR>>Faderworks<BR>> =
DELAYS all=20
other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the=20
=3D<BR>>audio<BR>> track 1 for which faderworks ignores =
the=20
latency.<BR>> OVERALL latency is displayed on every track too =
!!<BR>> It even substract latency !!!!<BR>> So by =
putting a=20
waves rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT=20
=3D<BR>>mean<BR>> that faderworks will delay all others =
again by 64=20
samples !! , thus =3D<BR>>overall<BR>> latency WILL REMAIN =
at 64=20
samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 =
=3D<BR>>samples<BR>> =20
latent because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64=20
=3D<BR>>samples<BR>> for this track =
!!<BR>><BR>> Anyone=20
understood what I typed in here ? :)<BR>> =
Regards,<BR>> =20
Dimitrios=3D20<BR>><BR>> eff H <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> >Dimitrios<BR>> ><BR>> =
>How=20
does this function with plugins inside a wrapper, for =
example=3D20<BR>> =20
>autotune wrapped inside FFX4?<BR>> ><BR>> =20
>JH<BR>> ><BR>> >wrote:<BR>> =
>> I=20
tried the beta1 and it is marvelous.<BR>> >> It holds =
64=20
presets with latencies so you can just click the on=20
=3D<BR>>button<BR>> anytime<BR>> >> you =
load the=20
plugin...<BR>> >> Regards,<BR>> >>=20
Dimitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight=20
spam, and you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD> <BR>><META=20
http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
=3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
6.00.2900.2180"=20
=
name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE> <BR>></HEA=
D><BR>><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DI V> <BR>><DIV><F=
ONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This all makes sense. Thank you=20
=3D<BR>>for=3D20<BR>>that. Now do=20
the</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>Paris automation lines still work on =3D<BR>>plugins=20
that=3D20<BR>>are =
being</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>compensated for with Faderworks or is =
=3D<BR>>the=20
=
gui=3D20<BR>>screwey?</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><F=
ONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Meaning the time is=20
=3D<BR>>offset?</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>When using stereo instances of =
=3D<BR>>Faderworks do=20
=
you=3D20<BR>>actually</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><F=
ONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>hit the 'Stereo X box" in the Paris =
=3D<BR>>plugin=20
gui or=3D20<BR>>assign=20
another</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>mono instance for the adjacent =3D<BR>>channel? =
This=3D20<BR>>has caused trouble=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>in my experience </FONT><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>size=3D3D2>with mono/stereo =
combinations and=20
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Thanks for your answers and when should<BR>=3D<BR>>it =
=
be=3D20<BR>>available?</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><=
FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm=20
ready!</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
=
</DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR >>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
0px;=20
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
2px solid;=20
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Dimitrios"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
wrote in =3D<BR>>message=3D20<BR>> <A =
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>OK<B=
'>news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
;<BR>OK<B</A>=3D<BR>>R>I=3D20 <BR>> =20
thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right words=20
=3D<BR>>for<BR>it=3D20<BR>> =
:)<BR><BR>You put=20
faderworks on one of the native slots (you have=20
four<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>> right?)<BR>I put it on the =
first=20
one.<BR>Then whatever you put on =3D<BR>>other =
slots=3D20<BR>> =20
it does not matter because faderworks<BR>always does what is=20
supposed<BR>=3D<BR>>to=3D20<BR>> =
do.<BR><BR>Tom, yes why=20
should you use sampleslide when Faderworks=20
has<BR>=3D<BR>>been=3D20<BR>> written<BR>to do this =
for us only=20
BETTER !<BR><BR>1. You put =
=3D<BR>>faderworks=3D20<BR>> =20
1in/1out on every Paris audio track.<BR>2. If you wanna use a =
stereo=20
=3D<BR>>pair of=3D20<BR>> tracks the put the 2in/2out=20
faderworks.<BR>3. I made a Default project<BR>=3D<BR>>with=20
64=3D20<BR>> (4 cards) faderworks instances =
already<BR>loaded so=20
no hassle=3D20<BR>> thereafter...<BR>4. If you make a =
list with=20
plugins and latencies (64<BR>=3D<BR>>for now=3D20<BR>> is =
more=20
than<BR>enouph) these will be remembered with every =
new=3D20<BR>> =20
project.<BR>Just remember to have the button in the OFF=20
state.<BR>5. =3D<BR>>Even if=3D20<BR>> you use FFX4 =
and/or=20
chainer or other wrpper on other slots=20
=3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>will=3D20<BR>> do whatever is =
asked to=20
do.<BR>6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY=20
WORKS:<BR>The<BR>=3D<BR>>default=3D20 <BR>> status of =
the plugin=20
is to ignore the latency status for=20
=3D<BR>>the<BR>track=3D20<BR>> you are putting the=20
plugin.<BR>For instance.<BR><BR>A. You put a=20
waves<BR>=3D<BR>>renvox=3D20<BR>> on track 1 on slot two =
either=20
standalone or from<BR>withing the FFX4 =
=3D<BR>>or=3D20<BR>> =20
chainer...<BR>Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is=20
64=3D20<BR>> samples.<BR>That MEANS that all other =
Paris audio=20
tracks are 64 =3D<BR>>samples ahead=3D20<BR>> of =
track<BR>1 or=20
if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.<BR>NOW =
=3D<BR>>having=20
in=3D20<BR>> mind that you have put Faderworks on every track =
then BY=20
=3D<BR>>JUST<BR>pushing the=3D20<BR>> ON button =
track 1 of the=20
Waves renvox preset then=20
Faderworks<BR>DELAYS<BR>=3D<BR>>all=3D20 <BR>> other =
Paris audio=20
tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the =
=3D<BR>>audio<BR>track 1=20
for=3D20<BR>> which faderworks ignores the =
latency.<BR>OVERALL=20
latency is displayed<BR>=3D<BR>>on every=3D20<BR>> track =
too=20
!!<BR>It even substract latency !!!!<BR>So by putting a=20
=3D<BR>>waves=3D20<BR>> rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 =
that does NOT=20
mean<BR>that faderworks<BR>=3D<BR>>will=3D20<BR>> =
delay all=20
others again by 64 samples !! , thus overall<BR>latency=20
WILL<BR>=3D<BR>>REMAIN=3D20<BR>> at 64 samples, ONLY track =
2 which was=20
already 64 samples<BR>latent =3D<BR>>because =
of=3D20<BR>> track=20
1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples<BR>for this=20
=3D<BR>>track=3D20<BR>> !!<BR><BR>Anyone =
understood what I=20
typed in here ?=20
=3D<BR> >:)<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitr ios=3D20 <BR>> =20
<BR><BR>eff H <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t; =20
wrote:<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>& amp;gt;<BR>>How does this =
function with =3D<BR>>plugins=3D20<BR>> inside a wrapper, =
for example=20
<BR>>autotune wrapped inside=3D20<BR>> =20
=
FFX4?<BR>><BR>>JH& amp;lt;BR>><BR>>wrote:&am p;lt;=
BR>>>=20
I tried the =3D<BR>>beta1=3D20<BR>> and it is=20
marvelous.<BR>>> It holds 64 presets with latencies so=20
=3D<BR>>you can=3D20<BR>> just click the on=20
button<BR>anytime<BR>>&am p;gt; you load =
the=3D20<BR>> =20
plugin...<BR>>> Regards,<BR>>>=20
Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam,=20
=
=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20 <BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>=3D<BR>>.html</A> =20
=
</FONT></DIV></BODY&g t;</HTML> <BR>><BR>><BR></=
BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: Faderworks explained !!! [message #98158 is a reply to message #98156] |
Wed, 23 April 2008 13:59 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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Dear Tom,
Maybe if you highlight in the automation editor everything and just nudge
back ?
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>D.,
>
>How do you offset the automation after it's been written?
>
>The king of stupid questions.
>
>Tom
>
>
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
>news:480f206e$1@linux...
>
> Dear Tom,
> This is just a plugin so the latencies are just added afterall.
> So the automation could be made before doing any faderworks job and =
>then
> after putting all plugins with their latencies you just look at the =
>overall
> latency and offset the automation for that amount.
> I don't know when this will be released...
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Dimitrios,
> >This all makes sense. Thank you for that. Now do the
> >Paris automation lines still work on plugins that are being
> >compensated for with Faderworks or is the gui screwey?
> >Meaning the time is offset?
> >
> >When using stereo instances of Faderworks do you actually
> >hit the 'Stereo X box" in the Paris plugin gui or assign another
> >mono instance for the adjacent channel? This has caused trouble=3D20
> >in my experience with mono/stereo combinations and Paris.
> >
> >Thanks for your answers and when should it be available?
> >I'm ready!
> >
> >Tom=3D20
> >
> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =3D
> >news:480cbb3a$1@linux...
> >
> > OK
> > I thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right =
>words
> =3D
> >for
> > it :)
> >
> > You put faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four =
>right?)
> > I put it on the first one.
> > Then whatever you put on other slots it does not matter because =3D
> >faderworks
> > always does what is supposed to do.
> >
> > Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks has been =
>=3D
> >written
> > to do this for us only BETTER !
> >
> > 1. You put faderworks 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.
> > 2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks the put the 2in/2out =
>=3D
> >faderworks.
> > 3. I made a Default project with 64 (4 cards) faderworks instances
=
>=3D
> >already
> > loaded so no hassle thereafter...
> > 4. If you make a list with plugins and latencies (64 for now is =
>more =3D
> >than
> > enouph) these will be remembered with every new project.
> > Just remember to have the button in the OFF state.
> > 5. Even if you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other =
>slots
> =3D
> >faderworks
> > will do whatever is asked to do.
> > 6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS:
> > The default status of the plugin is to ignore the latency status =
>for
> =3D
> >the
> > track you are putting the plugin.
> > For instance.
> >
> > A. You put a waves renvox on track 1 on slot two either standalone
=
>or
> =3D
> >from
> > withing the FFX4 or chainer...
> > Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64 samples.
> > That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead =
>of =3D
> >track
> > 1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.
> > NOW having in mind that you have put Faderworks on every track then
=
>BY
> =3D
> >JUST
> > pushing the ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then =3D
> >Faderworks
> > DELAYS all other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact =
>the =3D
> >audio
> > track 1 for which faderworks ignores the latency.
> > OVERALL latency is displayed on every track too !!
> > It even substract latency !!!!
> > So by putting a waves rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT
=
>=3D
> >mean
> > that faderworks will delay all others again by 64 samples !! , thus
=
>=3D
> >overall
> > latency WILL REMAIN at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was already =
>64 =3D
> >samples
> > latent because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 =
>=3D
> >samples
> > for this track !!
> >
> > Anyone understood what I typed in here ? :)
> > Regards,
> > Dimitrios=3D20
> >
> > eff H <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
> > >Dimitrios
> > >
> > >How does this function with plugins inside a wrapper, for =
>example=3D20
> > >autotune wrapped inside FFX4?
> > >
> > >JH
> > >
> > >wrote:
> > >> I tried the beta1 and it is marvelous.
> > >> It holds 64 presets with latencies so you can just click the on
=
>=3D
> >button
> > anytime
> > >> you load the plugin...
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Dimitrios
> >
> >
> >
> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This all makes sense. Thank you
=
>=3D
> >for=3D20
> >that. Now do the</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Paris automation lines still =
>work on =3D
> >plugins that=3D20
> >are being</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>compensated for with Faderworks
=
>or is =3D
> >the gui=3D20
> >screwey?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Meaning the time is =3D
> >offset?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>When using stereo instances of =
>=3D
> >Faderworks do you=3D20
> >actually</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>hit the 'Stereo X box" in the =
>Paris =3D
> >plugin gui or=3D20
> >assign another</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>mono instance for the adjacent =
>=3D
> >channel? This=3D20
> >has caused trouble </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>in my experience </FONT><FONT =
>=3D
> >face=3D3DArial=3D20
> >size=3D3D2>with mono/stereo combinations and Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for your answers and when
=
>should
> =3D
> >it be=3D20
> >available?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm ready!</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>=3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote
=
>in =3D
> >message=3D20
> > <A =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>O=
>K<B=3D
> >R>I=3D20
> > thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right words
=
>=3D
> >for<BR>it=3D20
> > :)<BR><BR>You put faderworks on one of the native slots (you have =
>four
> =3D
> >
> > right?)<BR>I put it on the first one.<BR>Then whatever you put on =
>=3D
> >other slots=3D20
> > it does not matter because faderworks<BR>always does what is =
>supposed
> =3D
> >to=3D20
> > do.<BR><BR>Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks
=
>has
> =3D
> >been=3D20
> > written<BR>to do this for us only BETTER !<BR><BR>1. You put =3D
> >faderworks=3D20
> > 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.<BR>2. If you wanna use a =
>stereo =3D
> >pair of=3D20
> > tracks the put the 2in/2out faderworks.<BR>3. I made a Default =
>project
> =3D
> >with 64=3D20
> > (4 cards) faderworks instances already<BR>loaded so no hassle=3D20
> > thereafter...<BR>4. If you make a list with plugins and latencies =
>(64
> =3D
> >for now=3D20
> > is more than<BR>enouph) these will be remembered with every =
>new=3D20
> > project.<BR>Just remember to have the button in the OFF =
>state.<BR>5. =3D
> >Even if=3D20
> > you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other slots =3D
> >faderworks<BR>will=3D20
> > do whatever is asked to do.<BR>6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY =
>WORKS:<BR>The
> =3D
> >default=3D20
> > status of the plugin is to ignore the latency status for =3D
> >the<BR>track=3D20
> > you are putting the plugin.<BR>For instance.<BR><BR>A. You put a =
>waves
> =3D
> >renvox=3D20
> > on track 1 on slot two either standalone or from<BR>withing the =
>FFX4 =3D
> >or=3D20
> > chainer...<BR>Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is =
>64=3D20
> > samples.<BR>That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 =3D
> >samples ahead=3D20
> > of track<BR>1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.<BR>NOW =
>=3D
> >having in=3D20
> > mind that you have put Faderworks on every track then BY =3D
> >JUST<BR>pushing the=3D20
> > ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then =
>Faderworks<BR>DELAYS
> =3D
> >all=3D20
> > other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the =3D
> >audio<BR>track 1 for=3D20
> > which faderworks ignores the latency.<BR>OVERALL latency is =
>displayed
> =3D
> >on every=3D20
> > track too !!<BR>It even substract latency !!!!<BR>So by putting a =
>=3D
> >waves=3D20
> > rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT mean<BR>that =
>faderworks
> =3D
> >will=3D20
> > delay all others again by 64 samples !! , thus overall<BR>latency =
>WILL
> =3D
> >REMAIN=3D20
> > at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 samples<BR>latent
=
>=3D
> >because of=3D20
> > track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples<BR>for this
=
>=3D
> >track=3D20
> > !!<BR><BR>Anyone understood what I typed in here ? =3D
> >:)<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios=3D20
> > <BR><BR>eff H <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>>How does this function with =3D
> >plugins=3D20
> > inside a wrapper, for example <BR>>autotune wrapped inside=3D20
> > FFX4?<BR>><BR>>JH<BR>><BR>>wrote:<BR>>> I tried the =3D
> >beta1=3D20
> > and it is marvelous.<BR>>> It holds 64 presets with latencies so =
>=3D
> >you can=3D20
> > just click the on button<BR>anytime<BR>>> you load the=3D20
> > plugin...<BR>>> Regards,<BR>>> Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>spam, =3D
> >and=3D20
> >you?<BR><A=3D20
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>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>fer=3D
> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>D.,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How do you offset the automation after
=
>it's been=20
>written?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The king of stupid =
>questions.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
>message=20
> <A =
>href=3D"news:480f206e$1@linux">news:480f206e$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Dear=
>=20
> Tom,<BR>This is just a plugin so the latencies are just added =
>afterall.<BR>So=20
> the automation could be made before doing any faderworks job and =
>then<BR>after=20
> putting all plugins with their latencies you just look at the=20
> overall<BR>latency and offset the automation for that amount.<BR>I =
>don't know=20
> when this will be released...<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR><BR>"Tom =
>Bruhl"=20
> <<A href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
>
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>This all makes =
>sense. =20
> Thank you for that. Now do the<BR>>Paris automation lines =
>still work=20
> on plugins that are being<BR>>compensated for with Faderworks or is =
>the gui=20
> screwey?<BR>>Meaning the time is offset?<BR>><BR>>When using =
>stereo=20
> instances of Faderworks do you actually<BR>>hit the 'Stereo X box" =
>in the=20
> Paris plugin gui or assign another<BR>>mono instance for the =
>adjacent=20
> channel? This has caused trouble=3D20<BR>>in my experience =
>with=20
> mono/stereo combinations and Paris.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for your =
>answers and=20
> when should it be available?<BR>>I'm=20
> ready!<BR>><BR>>Tom=3D20<BR>><BR>> "Dimitrios" =
><<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
>message=20
> =3D<BR>>news:480cbb3a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> =
>OK<BR>> I=20
> thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right=20
> words<BR>=3D<BR>>for<BR>> it :)<BR>><BR>> You =
>put=20
> faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four =
>right?)<BR>> I=20
> put it on the first one.<BR>> Then whatever you put on other =
>slots it=20
> does not matter because =3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>> always =
>does what is=20
> supposed to do.<BR>><BR>> Tom, yes why should you use =
>sampleslide=20
> when Faderworks has been =3D<BR>>written<BR>> to do this =
>for us only=20
> BETTER !<BR>><BR>> 1. You put faderworks 1in/1out on every =
>Paris=20
> audio track.<BR>> 2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks =
>the put=20
> the 2in/2out =3D<BR>>faderworks.<BR>> 3. I made a Default =
>project=20
> with 64 (4 cards) faderworks instances =
>=3D<BR>>already<BR>> loaded=20
> so no hassle thereafter...<BR>> 4. If you make a list with =
>plugins=20
> and latencies (64 for now is more =3D<BR>>than<BR>> =
>enouph) these=20
> will be remembered with every new project.<BR>> Just remember =
>to have=20
> the button in the OFF state.<BR>> 5. Even if you use FFX4 =
>and/or=20
> chainer or other wrpper on other =
>slots<BR>=3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>> =20
> will do whatever is asked to do.<BR>> 6 HERE IS HOW IT =
>ACTUALLY=20
> WORKS:<BR>> The default status of the plugin is to =
>ignore the=20
> latency status for<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> track you are =
>putting the=20
> plugin.<BR>> For instance.<BR>><BR>> A. You put a =
>waves=20
> renvox on track 1 on slot two either standalone=20
> or<BR>=3D<BR>>from<BR>> withing the FFX4 or =
>chainer...<BR>> =20
> Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64 =
>samples.<BR>> =20
> That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead of=20
> =3D<BR>>track<BR>> 1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample=20
> latent.<BR>> NOW having in mind that you have put Faderworks =
>on every=20
> track then BY<BR>=3D<BR>>JUST<BR>> pushing the ON button =
>track 1 of=20
> the Waves renvox preset then =3D<BR>>Faderworks<BR>> =
>DELAYS all=20
> other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the=20
> =3D<BR>>audio<BR>> track 1 for which faderworks ignores =
>the=20
> latency.<BR>> OVERALL latency is displayed on every track too =
>
> !!<BR>> It even substract latency !!!!<BR>> So by =
>putting a=20
> waves rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT=20
> =3D<BR>>mean<BR>> that faderworks will delay all others =
>again by 64=20
> samples !! , thus =3D<BR>>overall<BR>> latency WILL REMAIN =
>at 64=20
> samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 =
>=3D<BR>>samples<BR>> =20
> latent because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64=20
> =3D<BR>>samples<BR>> for this track =
>!!<BR>><BR>> Anyone=20
> understood what I typed in here ? :)<BR>> =
>Regards,<BR>> =20
> Dimitrios=3D20<BR>><BR>> eff H <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>> >Dimitrios<BR>> ><BR>> =
>>How=20
> does this function with plugins inside a wrapper, for =
>example=3D20<BR>> =20
> >autotune wrapped inside FFX4?<BR>> ><BR>> =20
> >JH<BR>> ><BR>> >wrote:<BR>> =
>>> I=20
> tried the beta1 and it is marvelous.<BR>> >> It holds =
>64=20
> presets with latencies so you can just click the on=20
> =3D<BR>>button<BR>> anytime<BR>> >> you =
>load the=20
> plugin...<BR>> >> Regards,<BR>> >>=20
> Dimitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
>fight=20
> spam, and you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> 6.00.2900.2180"=20
> =
>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>D><BR>><BODY=20
> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=
>ONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This all makes sense. Thank you=20
> =3D<BR>>for=3D20<BR>>that. Now do=20
> the</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>
> size=3D3D2>Paris automation lines still work on =3D<BR>>plugins=20
> that=3D20<BR>>are =
>being</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>compensated for with Faderworks or is =
>=3D<BR>>the=20
> =
>gui=3D20<BR>>screwey?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=
>ONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Meaning the time is=20
> =3D<BR>>offset?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>When using stereo instances of =
>=3D<BR>>Faderworks do=20
> =
>you=3D20<BR>>actually</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=
>ONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>hit the 'Stereo X box" in the Paris =
>=3D<BR>>plugin=20
> gui or=3D20<BR>>assign=20
> another</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>mono instance for the adjacent =3D<BR>>channel? =
>
> This=3D20<BR>>has caused trouble=20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>in my experience </FONT><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>>face=3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>size=3D3D2>with mono/stereo =
>combinations and=20
> Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Thanks for your answers and when should<BR>=3D<BR>>it =
>
> =
>be=3D20<BR>>available?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><=
>FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm=20
> ready!</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> =
></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>0px;=20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
>2px solid;=20
> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Dimitrios"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
> wrote in =3D<BR>>message=3D20<BR>> <A =
>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>OK<B=
>'>news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>;<BR>OK<B</A>=3D<BR>>R>I=3D20<BR>> =20
> thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right words=20
> =3D<BR>>for<BR>it=3D20<BR>> =
>:)<BR><BR>You put=20
> faderworks on one of the native slots (you have=20
> four<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>> right?)<BR>I put it on the =
>first=20
> one.<BR>Then whatever you put on =3D<BR>>other =
>slots=3D20<BR>> =20
> it does not matter because faderworks<BR>always does what is=20
> supposed<BR>=3D<BR>>to=3D20<BR>> =
>do.<BR><BR>Tom, yes why=20
> should you use sampleslide when Faderworks=20
> has<BR>=3D<BR>>been=3D20<BR>> written<BR>to do this =
>for us only=20
> BETTER !<BR><BR>1. You put =
>=3D<BR>>faderworks=3D20<BR>> =20
> 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.<BR>2. If you wanna use a =
>stereo=20
> =3D<BR>>pair of=3D20<BR>> tracks the put the 2in/2out=20
> faderworks.<BR>3. I made a Default project<BR>=3D<BR>>with=20
> 64=3D20<BR>> (4 cards) faderworks instances =
>already<BR>loaded so=20
> no hassle=3D20<BR>> thereafter...<BR>4. If you make a =
>list with=20
> plugins and latencies (64<BR>=3D<BR>>for now=3D20<BR>> is =
>more=20
> than<BR>enouph) these will be remembered with every =
>new=3D20<BR>> =20
> project.<BR>Just remember to have the button in the OFF=20
> state.<BR>5. =3D<BR>>Even if=3D20<BR>> you use FFX4 =
>and/or=20
> chainer or other wrpper on other slots=20
> =3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>will=3D20<BR>> do whatever is =
>asked to=20
> do.<BR>6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY=20
> WORKS:<BR>The<BR>=3D<BR>>default=3D20<BR>> status of =
>the plugin=20
> is to ignore the latency status for=20
> =3D<BR>>the<BR>track=3D20<BR>> you are putting the=20
> plugin.<BR>For instance.<BR><BR>A. You put a=20
> waves<BR>=3D<BR>>renvox=3D20<BR>> on track 1 on slot two =
>either=20
> standalone or from<BR>withing the FFX4 =
>=3D<BR>>or=3D20<BR>> =20
> chainer...<BR>Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is=20
> 64=3D20<BR>> samples.<BR>That MEANS that all other =
>Paris audio=20
> tracks are 64 =3D<BR>>samples ahead=3D20<BR>> of =
>track<BR>1 or=20
> if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.<BR>NOW =
>=3D<BR>>having=20
> in=3D20<BR>> mind that you have put Faderworks on every track =
>then BY=20
> =3D<BR>>JUST<BR>pushing the=3D20<BR>> ON button =
>track 1 of the=20
> Waves renvox preset then=20
> Faderworks<BR>DELAYS<BR>=3D<BR>>all=3D20<BR>> other =
>Paris audio=20
> tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the =
>=3D<BR>>audio<BR>track 1=20
> for=3D20<BR>> which faderworks ignores the =
>latency.<BR>OVERALL=20
> latency is displayed<BR>=3D<BR>>on every=3D20<BR>> track =
>too=20
> !!<BR>It even substract latency !!!!<BR>So by putting a=20
> =3D<BR>>waves=3D20<BR>> rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 =
>that does NOT=20
> mean<BR>that faderworks<BR>=3D<BR>>will=3D20<BR>> =
>delay all=20
> others again by 64 samples !! , thus overall<BR>latency=20
> WILL<BR>=3D<BR>>REMAIN=3D20<BR>> at 64 samples, ONLY track =
>2 which was=20
> already 64 samples<BR>latent =3D<BR>>because =
>of=3D20<BR>> track=20
> 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples<BR>for this=20
> =3D<BR>>track=3D20<BR>> !!<BR><BR>Anyone =
>understood what I=20
> typed in here ?=20
> =3D<BR>>:)<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios=3D20<BR>> =20
> <BR><BR>eff H <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
>:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
>t; =20
> wrote:<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>>How does this =
>
> function with =3D<BR>>plugins=3D20<BR>> inside a wrapper, =
>for example=20
> <BR>>autotune wrapped inside=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>FFX4?<BR>><BR>>JH<BR>><BR>>wrote:<=
>BR>>>=20
> I tried the =3D<BR>>beta1=3D20<BR>> and it is=20
> marvelous.<BR>>> It holds 64 presets with latencies so=20
> =3D<BR>>you can=3D20<BR>> just click the on=20
> button<BR>anytime<BR>>> you load =
>the=3D20<BR>> =20
> plugin...<BR>>> Regards,<BR>>>=20
> Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>spam,=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D" <A=20
> =
>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>=3D<BR>>.html</A> =20
> =
></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=
>BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: Faderworks explained !!! [message #98161 is a reply to message #98158] |
Wed, 23 April 2008 14:42 |
Tom Bruhl
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Dimitrios,
I'll try it but I don't think that works.
Tom
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:480fa340$1@linux...
Dear Tom,
Maybe if you highlight in the automation editor everything and just =
nudge
back ?
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>D.,
>
>How do you offset the automation after it's been written?
>
>The king of stupid questions.
>
>Tom
>
>
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =3D
>news:480f206e$1@linux...
>
> Dear Tom,
> This is just a plugin so the latencies are just added afterall.
> So the automation could be made before doing any faderworks job and =
=3D
>then
> after putting all plugins with their latencies you just look at the =
=3D
>overall
> latency and offset the automation for that amount.
> I don't know when this will be released...
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Dimitrios,
> >This all makes sense. Thank you for that. Now do the
> >Paris automation lines still work on plugins that are being
> >compensated for with Faderworks or is the gui screwey?
> >Meaning the time is offset?
> >
> >When using stereo instances of Faderworks do you actually
> >hit the 'Stereo X box" in the Paris plugin gui or assign another
> >mono instance for the adjacent channel? This has caused =
trouble=3D3D20
> >in my experience with mono/stereo combinations and Paris.
> >
> >Thanks for your answers and when should it be available?
> >I'm ready!
> >
> >Tom=3D3D20
> >
> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =3D3D
> >news:480cbb3a$1@linux...
> >
> > OK
> > I thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right =
=3D
>words
> =3D3D
> >for
> > it :)
> >
> > You put faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four =3D
>right?)
> > I put it on the first one.
> > Then whatever you put on other slots it does not matter because =
=3D3D
> >faderworks
> > always does what is supposed to do.
> >
> > Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks has been =
=3D
>=3D3D
> >written
> > to do this for us only BETTER !
> >
> > 1. You put faderworks 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.
> > 2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks the put the 2in/2out =
=3D
>=3D3D
> >faderworks.
> > 3. I made a Default project with 64 (4 cards) faderworks =
instances
=3D
>=3D3D
> >already
> > loaded so no hassle thereafter...
> > 4. If you make a list with plugins and latencies (64 for now is =
=3D
>more =3D3D
> >than
> > enouph) these will be remembered with every new project.
> > Just remember to have the button in the OFF state.
> > 5. Even if you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other =
=3D
>slots
> =3D3D
> >faderworks
> > will do whatever is asked to do.
> > 6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS:
> > The default status of the plugin is to ignore the latency =
status =3D
>for
> =3D3D
> >the
> > track you are putting the plugin.
> > For instance.
> >
> > A. You put a waves renvox on track 1 on slot two either =
standalone
=3D
>or
> =3D3D
> >from
> > withing the FFX4 or chainer...
> > Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64 samples.
> > That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples =
ahead =3D
>of =3D3D
> >track
> > 1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.
> > NOW having in mind that you have put Faderworks on every track =
then
=3D
>BY
> =3D3D
> >JUST
> > pushing the ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then =
=3D3D
> >Faderworks
> > DELAYS all other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact =
=3D
>the =3D3D
> >audio
> > track 1 for which faderworks ignores the latency.
> > OVERALL latency is displayed on every track too !!
> > It even substract latency !!!!
> > So by putting a waves rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does =
NOT
=3D
>=3D3D
> >mean
> > that faderworks will delay all others again by 64 samples !! , =
thus
=3D
>=3D3D
> >overall
> > latency WILL REMAIN at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was =
already =3D
>64 =3D3D
> >samples
> > latent because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 =
=3D
>=3D3D
> >samples
> > for this track !!
> >
> > Anyone understood what I typed in here ? :)
> > Regards,
> > Dimitrios=3D3D20
> >
> > eff H <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
> > >Dimitrios
> > >
> > >How does this function with plugins inside a wrapper, for =3D
>example=3D3D20
> > >autotune wrapped inside FFX4?
> > >
> > >JH
> > >
> > >wrote:
> > >> I tried the beta1 and it is marvelous.
> > >> It holds 64 presets with latencies so you can just click the =
on
=3D
>=3D3D
> >button
> > anytime
> > >> you load the plugin...
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Dimitrios
> >
> >
> >
> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This all makes sense. =
Thank you
=3D
>=3D3D
> >for=3D3D20
> >that. Now do the</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Paris automation lines =
still =3D
>work on =3D3D
> >plugins that=3D3D20
> >are being</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>compensated for with =
Faderworks
=3D
>or is =3D3D
> >the gui=3D3D20
> >screwey?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Meaning the time is =3D3D
> >offset?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>When using stereo =
instances of =3D
>=3D3D
> >Faderworks do you=3D3D20
> >actually</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>hit the 'Stereo X box" in =
the =3D
>Paris =3D3D
> >plugin gui or=3D3D20
> >assign another</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>mono instance for the =
adjacent =3D
>=3D3D
> >channel? This=3D3D20
> >has caused trouble </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>in my experience =
</FONT><FONT =3D
>=3D3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >size=3D3D3D2>with mono/stereo combinations and Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for your answers =
and when
=3D
>should
> =3D3D
> >it be=3D3D20
> >available?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm ready!</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; =3D
>=3D3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20
> > href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
wrote
=3D
>in =3D3D
> >message=3D3D20
> > <A =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D"news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><B=
R>O=3D
>K<B=3D3D
> >R>I=3D3D20
> > thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right =
words
=3D
>=3D3D
> >for<BR>it=3D3D20
> > :)<BR><BR>You put faderworks on one of the native slots (you =
have =3D
>four
> =3D3D
> >
> > right?)<BR>I put it on the first one.<BR>Then whatever you put =
on =3D
>=3D3D
> >other slots=3D3D20
> > it does not matter because faderworks<BR>always does what is =3D
>supposed
> =3D3D
> >to=3D3D20
> > do.<BR><BR>Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when =
Faderworks
=3D
>has
> =3D3D
> >been=3D3D20
> > written<BR>to do this for us only BETTER !<BR><BR>1. You put =
=3D3D
> >faderworks=3D3D20
> > 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.<BR>2. If you wanna use a =
=3D
>stereo =3D3D
> >pair of=3D3D20
> > tracks the put the 2in/2out faderworks.<BR>3. I made a Default =
=3D
>project
> =3D3D
> >with 64=3D3D20
> > (4 cards) faderworks instances already<BR>loaded so no =
hassle=3D3D20
> > thereafter...<BR>4. If you make a list with plugins and =
latencies =3D
>(64
> =3D3D
> >for now=3D3D20
> > is more than<BR>enouph) these will be remembered with every =3D
>new=3D3D20
> > project.<BR>Just remember to have the button in the OFF =3D
>state.<BR>5. =3D3D
> >Even if=3D3D20
> > you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other slots =3D3D
> >faderworks<BR>will=3D3D20
> > do whatever is asked to do.<BR>6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY =3D
>WORKS:<BR>The
> =3D3D
> >default=3D3D20
> > status of the plugin is to ignore the latency status for =3D3D
> >the<BR>track=3D3D20
> > you are putting the plugin.<BR>For instance.<BR><BR>A. You put a =
=3D
>waves
> =3D3D
> >renvox=3D3D20
> > on track 1 on slot two either standalone or from<BR>withing the =
=3D
>FFX4 =3D3D
> >or=3D3D20
> > chainer...<BR>Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is =
=3D
>64=3D3D20
> > samples.<BR>That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 =
=3D3D
> >samples ahead=3D3D20
> > of track<BR>1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample =
latent.<BR>NOW =3D
>=3D3D
> >having in=3D3D20
> > mind that you have put Faderworks on every track then BY =3D3D
> >JUST<BR>pushing the=3D3D20
> > ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then =3D
>Faderworks<BR>DELAYS
> =3D3D
> >all=3D3D20
> > other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the =3D3D
> >audio<BR>track 1 for=3D3D20
> > which faderworks ignores the latency.<BR>OVERALL latency is =3D
>displayed
> =3D3D
> >on every=3D3D20
> > track too !!<BR>It even substract latency !!!!<BR>So by putting =
a =3D
>=3D3D
> >waves=3D3D20
> > rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT mean<BR>that =3D
>faderworks
> =3D3D
> >will=3D3D20
> > delay all others again by 64 samples !! , thus =
overall<BR>latency =3D
>WILL
> =3D3D
> >REMAIN=3D3D20
> > at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 =
samples<BR>latent
=3D
>=3D3D
> >because of=3D3D20
> > track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples<BR>for =
this
=3D
>=3D3D
> >track=3D3D20
> > !!<BR><BR>Anyone understood what I typed in here ? =3D3D
> >:)<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios=3D3D20
> > <BR><BR>eff H <<A=3D3D20
> > =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D3D20
> > wrote:<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>>How does this function with =3D3D
> >plugins=3D3D20
> > inside a wrapper, for example <BR>>autotune wrapped =
inside=3D3D20
> > FFX4?<BR>><BR>>JH<BR>><BR>>wrote:<BR>>> I tried the =3D3D
> >beta1=3D3D20
> > and it is marvelous.<BR>>> It holds 64 presets with latencies so =
=3D
>=3D3D
> >you can=3D3D20
> > just click the on button<BR>anytime<BR>>> you load the=3D3D20
> > plugin...<BR>>> Regards,<BR>>> Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight =3D
>spam, =3D3D
> >and=3D3D20
> >you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
/re=3D
>fer=3D3D
> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>D.,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>How do you offset the automation =
after
=3D
>it's been=3D20
>written?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The king of stupid =3D
>questions.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote =
in =3D
>message=3D20
> <A =3D
=
>href=3D3D"news:480f206e$1@linux">news:480f206e$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>D=
ear=3D
>=3D20
> Tom,<BR>This is just a plugin so the latencies are just added =3D
>afterall.<BR>So=3D20
> the automation could be made before doing any faderworks job and =
=3D
>then<BR>after=3D20
> putting all plugins with their latencies you just look at the=3D20
> overall<BR>latency and offset the automation for that amount.<BR>I =
=3D
>don't know=3D20
> when this will be released...<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR><BR>"Tom =
=3D
>Bruhl"=3D20
> <<A href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
=3D
>
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>This all makes =3D
>sense. =3D20
> Thank you for that. Now do the<BR>>Paris automation lines =3D
>still work=3D20
> on plugins that are being<BR>>compensated for with Faderworks or is =
=3D
>the gui=3D20
> screwey?<BR>>Meaning the time is offset?<BR>><BR>>When using =3D
>stereo=3D20
> instances of Faderworks do you actually<BR>>hit the 'Stereo X box" =
=3D
>in the=3D20
> Paris plugin gui or assign another<BR>>mono instance for the =3D
>adjacent=3D20
> channel? This has caused trouble=3D3D20<BR>>in my experience =3D
>with=3D20
> mono/stereo combinations and Paris.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for your =3D
>answers and=3D20
> when should it be available?<BR>>I'm=3D20
> ready!<BR>><BR>>Tom=3D3D20<BR>><BR>> "Dimitrios" =3D
><<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote =
in =3D
>message=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>news:480cbb3a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> =3D
>OK<BR>> I=3D20
> thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right=3D20
> words<BR>=3D3D<BR>>for<BR>> it :)<BR>><BR>> You =3D
>put=3D20
> faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four =3D
>right?)<BR>> I=3D20
> put it on the first one.<BR>> Then whatever you put on other =3D
>slots it=3D20
> does not matter because =3D3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>> always =3D
>does what is=3D20
> supposed to do.<BR>><BR>> Tom, yes why should you use =3D
>sampleslide=3D20
> when Faderworks has been =3D3D<BR>>written<BR>> to do this =3D
>for us only=3D20
> BETTER !<BR>><BR>> 1. You put faderworks 1in/1out on every =3D
>Paris=3D20
> audio track.<BR>> 2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks =3D
>the put=3D20
> the 2in/2out =3D3D<BR>>faderworks.<BR>> 3. I made a Default =3D
>project=3D20
> with 64 (4 cards) faderworks instances =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>already<BR>> loaded=3D20
> so no hassle thereafter...<BR>> 4. If you make a list with =3D
>plugins=3D20
> and latencies (64 for now is more =3D3D<BR>>than<BR>> =3D
>enouph) these=3D20
> will be remembered with every new project.<BR>> Just remember =3D
>to have=3D20
> the button in the OFF state.<BR>> 5. Even if you use FFX4 =3D
>and/or=3D20
> chainer or other wrpper on other =3D
>slots<BR>=3D3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>> =3D20
> will do whatever is asked to do.<BR>> 6 HERE IS HOW IT =3D
>ACTUALLY=3D20
> WORKS:<BR>> The default status of the plugin is to =3D
>ignore the=3D20
> latency status for<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the<BR>> track you are =3D
>putting the=3D20
> plugin.<BR>> For instance.<BR>><BR>> A. You put a =3D
>waves=3D20
> renvox on track 1 on slot two either standalone=3D20
> or<BR>=3D3D<BR>>from<BR>> withing the FFX4 or =3D
>chainer...<BR>> =3D20
> Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64 =3D
>samples.<BR>> =3D20
> That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead =
of=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>track<BR>> 1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample=3D20
> latent.<BR>> NOW having in mind that you have put Faderworks =3D
>on every=3D20
> track then BY<BR>=3D3D<BR>>JUST<BR>> pushing the ON button =3D
>track 1 of=3D20
> the Waves renvox preset then =3D3D<BR>>Faderworks<BR>> =3D
>DELAYS all=3D20
> other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>audio<BR>> track 1 for which faderworks ignores =3D
>the=3D20
> latency.<BR>> OVERALL latency is displayed on every track too =3D
>
> !!<BR>> It even substract latency !!!!<BR>> So by =3D
>putting a=3D20
> waves rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>mean<BR>> that faderworks will delay all others =3D
>again by 64=3D20
> samples !! , thus =3D3D<BR>>overall<BR>> latency WILL REMAIN =3D
>at 64=3D20
> samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>samples<BR>> =3D20
> latent because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that =
64=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>samples<BR>> for this track =3D
>!!<BR>><BR>> Anyone=3D20
> understood what I typed in here ? :)<BR>> =3D
>Regards,<BR>> =3D20
> Dimitrios=3D3D20<BR>><BR>> eff H <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>> >Dimitrios<BR>> ><BR>> =3D
>>How=3D20
> does this function with plugins inside a wrapper, for =3D
>example=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >autotune wrapped inside FFX4?<BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> >JH<BR>> ><BR>> >wrote:<BR>> =3D
>>> I=3D20
> tried the beta1 and it is marvelous.<BR>> >> It holds =3D
>64=3D20
> presets with latencies so you can just click the on=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>button<BR>> anytime<BR>> >> you =3D
>load the=3D20
> plugin...<BR>> >> Regards,<BR>> >>=3D20
> Dimitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =3D
>fight=3D20
> spam, and you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> 6.00.2900.2180"=3D20
> =3D
>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
>D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=3D
>ONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This all makes sense. Thank you=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>for=3D3D20<BR>>that. Now do=3D20
> the</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
>
> size=3D3D3D2>Paris automation lines still work on =
=3D3D<BR>>plugins=3D20
> that=3D3D20<BR>>are =3D
>being</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>compensated for with Faderworks or is =
=3D
>=3D3D<BR>>the=3D20
> =3D
>gui=3D3D20<BR>>screwey?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=3D
>ONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Meaning the time is=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>offset?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>When using stereo instances of =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>Faderworks do=3D20
> =3D
>you=3D3D20<BR>>actually</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=3D
>ONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>hit the 'Stereo X box" in the Paris =
=3D
>=3D3D<BR>>plugin=3D20
> gui or=3D3D20<BR>>assign=3D20
> another</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>mono instance for the adjacent =3D3D<BR>>channel? =3D
>
> This=3D3D20<BR>>has caused trouble=3D20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>in my experience </FONT><FONT=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>with mono/stereo =
=3D
>combinations and=3D20
> Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for your answers and when =
should<BR>=3D3D<BR>>it =3D
>
> =3D
>be=3D3D20<BR>>available?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><=3D
>FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm=3D20
> ready!</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> =3D
></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =3D
>0px;=3D20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
=3D
>2px solid;=3D20
> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Dimitrios"=3D20
> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musur=
gio=3D
>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D20
> wrote in =3D3D<BR>>message=3D3D20<BR>> <A =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>O=
K<B=3D
>'>news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=3D
>;<BR>OK<B</A>=3D3D<BR>>R>I=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right =
words=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>for<BR>it=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>:)<BR><BR>You put=3D20
> faderworks on one of the native slots (you have=3D20
> four<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> right?)<BR>I put it on the =3D
>first=3D20
> one.<BR>Then whatever you put on =3D3D<BR>>other =3D
>slots=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> it does not matter because faderworks<BR>always does what is=3D20
> supposed<BR>=3D3D<BR>>to=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>do.<BR><BR>Tom, yes why=3D20
> should you use sampleslide when Faderworks=3D20
> has<BR>=3D3D<BR>>been=3D3D20<BR>> written<BR>to do this =3D
>for us only=3D20
> BETTER !<BR><BR>1. You put =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>faderworks=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.<BR>2. If you wanna use a =3D
>stereo=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>pair of=3D3D20<BR>> tracks the put the 2in/2out=3D20
> faderworks.<BR>3. I made a Default project<BR>=3D3D<BR>>with=3D20
> 64=3D3D20<BR>> (4 cards) faderworks instances =3D
>already<BR>loaded so=3D20
> no hassle=3D3D20<BR>> thereafter...<BR>4. If you make a =3D
>list with=3D20
> plugins and latencies (64<BR>=3D3D<BR>>for now=3D3D20<BR>> is =3D
>more=3D20
> than<BR>enouph) these will be remembered with every =3D
>new=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> project.<BR>Just remember to have the button in the OFF=3D20
> state.<BR>5. =3D3D<BR>>Even if=3D3D20<BR>> you use FFX4 =3D
>and/or=3D20
> chainer or other wrpper on other slots=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>will=3D3D20<BR>> do whatever is =3D
>asked to=3D20
> do.<BR>6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY=3D20
> WORKS:<BR>The<BR>=3D3D<BR>>default=3D3D20<BR>> status of =3D
>the plugin=3D20
> is to ignore the latency status for=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>the<BR>track=3D3D20<BR>> you are putting the=3D20
> plugin.<BR>For instance.<BR><BR>A. You put a=3D20
> waves<BR>=3D3D<BR>>renvox=3D3D20<BR>> on track 1 on slot two =3D
>either=3D20
> standalone or from<BR>withing the FFX4 =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>or=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> chainer...<BR>Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is=3D20
> 64=3D3D20<BR>> samples.<BR>That MEANS that all other =3D
>Paris audio=3D20
> tracks are 64 =3D3D<BR>>samples ahead=3D3D20<BR>> of =3D
>track<BR>1 or=3D20
> if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.<BR>NOW =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>having=3D20
> in=3D3D20<BR>> mind that you have put Faderworks on every track =
=3D
>then BY=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>JUST<BR>pushing the=3D3D20<BR>> ON button =3D
>track 1 of the=3D20
> Waves renvox preset then=3D20
> Faderworks<BR>DELAYS<BR>=3D3D<BR>>all=3D3D20<BR>> other =3D
>Paris audio=3D20
> tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>audio<BR>track 1=3D20
> for=3D3D20<BR>> which faderworks ignores the =3D
>latency.<BR>OVERALL=3D20
> latency is displayed<BR>=3D3D<BR>>on every=3D3D20<BR>> track =3D
>too=3D20
> !!<BR>It even substract latency !!!!<BR>So by putting a=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>waves=3D3D20<BR>> rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 =3D
>that does NOT=3D20
> mean<BR>that faderworks<BR>=3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>delay all=3D20
> others again by 64 samples !! , thus overall<BR>latency=3D20
> WILL<BR>=3D3D<BR>>REMAIN=3D3D20<BR>> at 64 samples, ONLY track =3D
>2 which was=3D20
> already 64 samples<BR>latent =3D3D<BR>>because =3D
>of=3D3D20<BR>> track=3D20
> 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples<BR>for this=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>track=3D3D20<BR>> !!<BR><BR>Anyone =3D
>understood what I=3D20
> typed in here ?=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>:)<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> <BR><BR>eff H <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D3D20'>m=
ailto=3D
>:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>&g=3D
>t; =3D20
> wrote:<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>>How does this =3D
>
> function with =3D3D<BR>>plugins=3D3D20<BR>> inside a wrapper, =3D
>for example=3D20
> <BR>>autotune wrapped inside=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D
>FFX4?<BR>><BR>>JH<BR>><BR>>wrote:<=3D
>BR>>>=3D20
> I tried the =3D3D<BR>>beta1=3D3D20<BR>> and it is=3D20
> marvelous.<BR>>> It holds 64 presets with latencies so=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>you can=3D3D20<BR>> just click the on=3D20
> button<BR>anytime<BR>>> you load =3D
>the=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> plugin...<BR>>> Regards,<BR>>>=3D20
> Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =3D
>spam,=3D20
> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>>href=3D3D3D "<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
=
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=
>>=3D3D<BR>>.html</A> =3D20
> =3D
></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=3D
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll try it but I don't think that=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
message=20
<A =
href=3D"news:480fa340$1@linux">news:480fa340$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Dear=
=20
Tom,<BR>Maybe if you highlight in the automation editor everything and =
just=20
nudge<BR>back ?<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>D.,<BR>> <BR>>How do you offset the =
automation after it's been written?<BR>><BR>>The king of stupid=20
questions.<BR>><BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> <BR>><BR>> =20
"Dimitrios" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
wrote in message =
=3D<BR>>news:480f206e$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Dear=20
Tom,<BR>> This is just a plugin so the latencies are just =
added=20
afterall.<BR>> So the automation could be made before doing =
any=20
faderworks job and =3D<BR>>then<BR>> after putting all =
plugins with=20
their latencies you just look at the =3D<BR>>overall<BR>> =
latency=20
and offset the automation for that amount.<BR>> I don't know =
when=20
this will be released...<BR>> Regards,<BR>> =20
Dimitrios<BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =20
>Dimitrios,<BR>> >This all makes sense. Thank you =
for=20
that. Now do the<BR>> >Paris automation lines still =
work on=20
plugins that are being<BR>> >compensated for with =
Faderworks or is=20
the gui screwey?<BR>> >Meaning the time is =
offset?<BR>> =20
><BR>> >When using stereo instances of Faderworks do =
you=20
actually<BR>> >hit the 'Stereo X box" in the Paris plugin =
gui or=20
assign another<BR>> >mono instance for the adjacent =
channel? =20
This has caused trouble=3D3D20<BR>> >in my experience with =
mono/stereo combinations and Paris.<BR>> ><BR>> =20
>Thanks for your answers and when should it be =
available?<BR>> =20
>I'm ready!<BR>> ><BR>> =
>Tom=3D3D20<BR>> =20
><BR>> > "Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
message=20
=3D3D<BR>> >news:480cbb3a$1@linux...<BR>> =20
><BR>> > OK<BR>> > I thought I =
already=20
explained but maybe I did not use the right =
=3D<BR>>words<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >for<BR>> > it =
:)<BR>> =20
><BR>> > You put faderworks on one of the native =
slots=20
(you have four =3D<BR>>right?)<BR>> > I put it on =
the first=20
one.<BR>> > Then whatever you put on other slots it =
does not=20
matter because =3D3D<BR>> >faderworks<BR>> =
> =20
always does what is supposed to do.<BR>> ><BR>> =20
> Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks has =
been=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >written<BR>> > to =
do this for=20
us only BETTER !<BR>> ><BR>> > 1. You =
put=20
faderworks 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.<BR>> =
> 2. If=20
you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks the put the 2in/2out=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >faderworks.<BR>> =
> 3. I made=20
a Default project with 64 (4 cards) faderworks=20
instances<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >already<BR>> =
> =20
loaded so no hassle thereafter...<BR>> > 4. If you =
make a=20
list with plugins and latencies (64 for now is =3D<BR>>more =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>than<BR>> > enouph) these will be remembered =
with every=20
new project.<BR>> > Just remember to have the button =
in the=20
OFF state.<BR>> > 5. Even if you use FFX4 and/or =
chainer or=20
other wrpper on other =3D<BR>>slots<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>faderworks<BR>> > will do whatever is asked to=20
do.<BR>> > 6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY =
WORKS:<BR>> =20
> The default status of the plugin is to ignore the =
latency=20
status =3D<BR>>for<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>the<BR>> =20
> track you are putting the plugin.<BR>> > =
For=20
instance.<BR>> ><BR>> > A. You put a =
waves=20
renvox on track 1 on slot two either =
standalone<BR>=3D<BR>>or<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >from<BR>> > withing the FFX4 =
or=20
chainer...<BR>> > Now the actual latency this plugin =
introduces is 64 samples.<BR>> > That MEANS that all =
other=20
Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead =3D<BR>>of =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>track<BR>> > 1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 =
sample=20
latent.<BR>> > NOW having in mind that you have put=20
Faderworks on every track then<BR>=3D<BR>>BY<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>JUST<BR>> > pushing the ON button track 1 of the =
Waves=20
renvox preset then =3D3D<BR>> >Faderworks<BR>> =
> =20
DELAYS all other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact =
=3D<BR>>the=20
=3D3D<BR>> >audio<BR>> > track 1 for =
which=20
faderworks ignores the latency.<BR>> > OVERALL =
latency is=20
displayed on every track too !!<BR>> > It even =
substract=20
latency !!!!<BR>> > So by putting a waves rencomp =
(64=20
samples) on track 2 that does NOT<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>mean<BR>> > that faderworks will delay all =
others again=20
by 64 samples !! , thus<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>overall<BR>> > latency WILL REMAIN at 64 =
samples, ONLY=20
track 2 which was already =3D<BR>>64 =3D3D<BR>> =20
>samples<BR>> > latent because of track 1 now =
faderworks=20
just SUBSTRACTS that 64 =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>samples<BR>> =20
> for this track !!<BR>> ><BR>> =
> =20
Anyone understood what I typed in here ? :)<BR>> > =20
Regards,<BR>> > Dimitrios=3D3D20<BR>> =20
><BR>> > eff H <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> > >Dimitrios<BR>> > =
><BR>> > >How does this function with plugins =
inside a=20
wrapper, for =3D<BR>>example=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>autotune=20
wrapped inside FFX4?<BR>> > ><BR>> =
> =20
>JH<BR>> > ><BR>> > =20
>wrote:<BR>> > >> I tried the beta1 and it =
is=20
marvelous.<BR>> > >> It holds 64 presets with=20
latencies so you can just click the =
on<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>button<BR>> > anytime<BR>> > =
>>=20
you load the plugin...<BR>> > >>=20
Regards,<BR>> > >> Dimitrios<BR>> =20
><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >I choose =
Polesoft=20
Lockspam to fight spam, and you?<BR>> =20
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20<BR>> =20
><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
Transitional//EN"><BR>> =
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><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></ DIV> <BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This all =
makes=20
sense. Thank you<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>for=3D3D20<BR>> >that. Now do=20
the</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Paris automation lines still =
=3D<BR>>work on=20
=3D3D<BR>> >plugins that=3D3D20<BR>> >are=20
being</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>compensated for with =
Faderworks<BR>=3D<BR>>or is=20
=3D3D<BR>> >the gui=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>screwey?</FONT></DIV><BR >> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Meaning the time is =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>offset?</FONT></DIV><BR >> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>When using =
stereo=20
instances of =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >Faderworks do=20
you=3D3D20<BR>> =
>actually</FONT></DIV><BR >> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>hit the =
'Stereo X box" in=20
the =3D<BR>>Paris =3D3D<BR>> >plugin gui =
or=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>assign another</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>mono instance =
for the=20
adjacent =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >channel? =
This=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>has caused trouble </FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>in my =
experience=20
</FONT><FONT =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> >size=3D3D3D2>with =
mono/stereo=20
combinations and Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for your answers and=20
when<BR>=3D<BR>>should<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >it=20
be=3D3D20<BR>> =
>available?</FONT></DIV><BR >> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm=20
ready!</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>> =
>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=20
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px"><BR>> =20
> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
wrote<BR>=3D<BR>>in =3D3D<BR>> =
>message=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> <A =3D3D<BR>> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>O'>n=
ews:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=
t;BR>O</A>=3D<BR>>K<B=3D3D<BR>> =20
>R>I=3D3D20<BR>> > thought I already explained =
but maybe=20
I did not use the right words<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>for<BR>it=3D3D20<BR>> > =
:)<BR><BR>You=20
put faderworks on one of the native slots (you have=20
=3D<BR>>four<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> ><BR>> =
> =20
right?)<BR>I put it on the first one.<BR>Then whatever you =
put on=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >other slots=3D3D20<BR>> =
> it=20
does not matter because faderworks<BR>always does what is=20
=3D<BR>>supposed<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>to=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> do.<BR><BR>Tom, yes why should you use =
sampleslide when=20
Faderworks<BR>=3D<BR>>has<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =20
>been=3D3D20<BR>> > written<BR>to do this =
for us only=20
BETTER !<BR><BR>1. You put =3D3D<BR>> =20
>faderworks=3D3D20<BR>> > 1in/1out on every Paris =
audio=20
track.<BR>2. If you wanna use a =3D<BR>>stereo =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>pair of=3D3D20<BR>> > tracks the put the =
2in/2out=20
faderworks.<BR>3. I made a Default =
=3D<BR>>project<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >with 64=3D3D20<BR>> > (4 =
cards)=20
faderworks instances already<BR>loaded so no =
hassle=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> thereafter...<BR>4. If you make a list with plugins =
and=20
latencies =3D<BR>>(64<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >for=20
now=3D3D20<BR>> > is more than<BR>enouph) =
these will be=20
remembered with every =3D<BR>>new=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
project.<BR>Just remember to have the button in the OFF=20
=3D<BR>>state.<BR>5. =3D3D<BR>> >Even =
if=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other slots=20
=3D3D<BR>> >faderworks<BR>will=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
do whatever is asked to do.<BR>6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY=20
=3D<BR>>WORKS:<BR>The<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =20
>default=3D3D20<BR>> > status of the plugin =
is to=20
ignore the latency status for =3D3D<BR>> =20
>the<BR>track=3D3D20<BR>> > you are putting =
the=20
plugin.<BR>For instance.<BR><BR>A. You put a=20
=3D<BR>>waves<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>renvox=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> on track 1 on slot two either standalone or =
from<BR>withing=20
the =3D<BR>>FFX4 =3D3D<BR>> >or=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
chainer...<BR>Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is=20
=3D<BR>>64=3D3D20<BR>> > samples.<BR>That =
MEANS that=20
all other Paris audio tracks are 64 =3D3D<BR>> >samples=20
ahead=3D3D20<BR>> > of track<BR>1 or if you =
like ,track=20
1 is 64 sample latent.<BR>NOW =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>having=20
in=3D3D20<BR>> > mind that you have put Faderworks =
on every=20
track then BY =3D3D<BR>> >JUST<BR>pushing=20
the=3D3D20<BR>> > ON button track 1 of the Waves =
renvox preset=20
then =3D<BR>>Faderworks<BR>DELAYS<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>all=3D3D20<BR>> > other Paris audio tracks by 64 =
samples=20
LEAVING intact the =3D3D<BR>> >audio<BR>track 1=20
for=3D3D20<BR>> > which faderworks ignores the=20
latency.<BR>OVERALL latency is =
=3D<BR>>displayed<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >on every=3D3D20<BR>> > track =
too=20
!!<BR>It even substract latency !!!!<BR>So by putting a=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >waves=3D3D20<BR>> =
> rencomp (64=20
samples) on track 2 that does NOT mean<BR>that=20
=3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =20
>will=3D3D20<BR>> > delay all others again by 64 =
samples !!=20
, thus overall<BR>latency =3D<BR>>WILL<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>REMAIN=3D3D20<BR>> > at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 =
which was=20
already 64 samples<BR>latent<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR >> =
>because=20
of=3D3D20<BR>> > track 1 now faderworks just =
SUBSTRACTS that=20
64 samples<BR>for this<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>track=3D3D20<BR>> > !!<BR><BR>Anyone =
understood what I typed in here ? =3D3D<BR>> =20
>:)<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitr ios=3D3D20 <BR>> =
> =20
<BR><BR>eff H <<A=3D3D20<BR>> > =
href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D3D20'>mail=
to:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D3D20</A><B=
R>> =20
> =
wrote:<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>& amp;gt;<BR>>How does=20
this function with =3D3D<BR>> =
>plugins=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
inside a wrapper, for example <BR>>autotune wrapped=20
inside=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=
FFX4?<BR>><BR>>JH& amp;lt;BR>><BR>>wrote:&am p;lt;=
BR>>>=20
I tried the =3D3D<BR>> >beta1=3D3D20<BR>> =
> and it=20
is marvelous.<BR>>> It holds 64 presets with latencies so=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >you can=3D3D20<BR>> =
> just=20
click the on button<BR>anytime<BR>>&am p;gt; you load=20
the=3D3D20<BR>> > plugin...<BR>>>=20
Regards,<BR>>>=20
Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight=20
=3D<BR>>spam, =3D3D<BR>> >and=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re'>h=
ttp://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re</A>=3D<B=
R>>fer=3D3D<BR>> =20
>.html</A> =20
</FONT></DIV></BODY&g t;</HTML> <BR>> =20
><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML =
PUBLIC=20
"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD> <BR>><META=20
http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
=3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
6.00.2900.2180"=20
=
name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE> <BR>></HEA=
D><BR>><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>D.,</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>How do you offset the automation=20
after<BR>=3D<BR>>it's=20
=
been=3D20<BR>>written?</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><=
FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The king of stupid=20
=3D<BR>>questions.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV>=20
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
=
</DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR >>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
0px;=20
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
2px solid;=20
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Dimitrios"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
wrote in =3D<BR>>message=3D20<BR>> <A =
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:480f206e$1@linux">news:480f206e$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Dear=
'>news:480f206e$1@linux">news:480f206e$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
;<BR>Dear</A>=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
Tom,<BR>This is just a plugin so the latencies are just added=20
=3D<BR>>afterall.<BR>So=3D20<BR>> the automation =
could be made=20
before doing any faderworks job and=20
=3D<BR>>then<BR>after=3D20<BR>> putting all plugins =
with their=20
latencies you just look at the=3D20<BR>> =
overall<BR>latency and=20
offset the automation for that amount.<BR>I =3D<BR>>don't=20
know=3D20<BR>> when this will be=20
=
released...<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimit rios<BR><BR> "Tom =
=3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D20<BR>> <<A href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>><BR>> =20
=
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>> T=
his=20
all makes =3D<BR>>sense. =3D20<BR>> Thank you for =
that. Now do=20
the<BR>>Paris automation lines =3D<BR>>still =
work=3D20<BR>> =20
on plugins that are being<BR>>compensated for with Faderworks =
or is=20
=3D<BR>>the gui=3D20<BR>> screwey?<BR>>Meaning =
the time is=20
offset?<BR>><BR>>W hen using =
=3D<BR>>stereo=3D20<BR>> =20
instances of Faderworks do you actually<BR>>hit the 'Stereo X =
box"=20
=3D<BR>>in the=3D20<BR>> Paris plugin gui or assign=20
another<BR>>mono instance for the =
=3D<BR>>adjacent=3D20<BR>> =20
channel? This has caused trouble=3D3D20<BR>>in my =
experience=20
=3D<BR>>with=3D20<BR>> mono/stereo combinations and=20
Paris.<BR>><BR>>Th anks for your =3D<BR>>answers=20
and=3D20<BR>> when should it be=20
available?<BR>>I'm=3D20<BR>> =20
=
ready!<BR>><BR>>To m=3D3D20<BR>><BR>> &=
nbsp;=20
"Dimitrios" =3D<BR>><<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
wrote in =3D<BR>>message=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D3D<BR>>news:480cbb3a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>>&n=
bsp;=20
=3D<BR>>OK<BR>> I=3D20<BR>> thought I =
already explained=20
but maybe I did not use the right=3D20<BR>> =20
words<BR>=3D3D<BR>>for&am p;lt;BR>> it=20
:)<BR>><BR>>&n bsp; You =
=3D<BR>>put=3D20<BR>> =20
faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four=20
=3D<BR>>right?)<BR>> I=3D20<BR>> put it on =
the first=20
one.<BR>> Then whatever you put on other =
=3D<BR>>slots=20
it=3D20<BR>> does not matter because=20
=3D3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>& amp;gt; always =
=3D<BR>>does what=20
is=3D20<BR>> supposed to =
do.<BR>><BR>>& nbsp; Tom, yes=20
why should you use =3D<BR>>sampleslide=3D20<BR>> when =
Faderworks has=20
been =3D3D<BR>>written<BR>& ;gt; to do this =
=3D<BR>>for us=20
only=3D20<BR>> BETTER !<BR>><BR>>&nb sp; 1. =
You put=20
faderworks 1in/1out on every =3D<BR>>Paris=3D20<BR>> audio =
track.<BR>> 2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks =
=3D<BR>>the put=3D20<BR>> the 2in/2out=20
=3D3D<BR>>faderworks.<BR> > 3. I made a Default =
=3D<BR>>project=3D20<BR>> with 64 (4 cards) faderworks =
instances=20
=3D<BR> >=3D3D<BR>>already<BR& ;gt;> =
loaded=3D20<BR>> =20
so no hassle thereafter...<BR>> 4. If you make a list =
with=20
=3D<BR>>plugins=3D20<BR>> and latencies (64 for now is =
more=20
=3D3D<BR>>than<BR>> ; =3D<BR>>enouph)=20
these=3D20<BR>> will be remembered with every new=20
project.<BR>> Just remember =3D<BR>>to =
have=3D20<BR>> =20
the button in the OFF state.<BR>> 5. Even if you use =
FFX4=20
=3D<BR>>and/or=3D20<BR>> chainer or other wrpper on other=20
=3D<BR> >slots<BR>=3D3D<BR>&g t;faderworks<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> will do whatever is asked to =
do.<BR>> 6 HERE=20
IS HOW IT =3D<BR>>ACTUALLY=3D20<BR>> =
WORKS:<BR>> The=20
default status of the plugin is to =3D<BR>>ignore =
the=3D20<BR>> =20
latency status for<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the& lt;BR>> =
track you=20
are =3D<BR>>putting the=3D20<BR>> =
plugin.<BR>> For=20
instance.<BR>><BR>> ; A. You put a=20
=3D<BR>>waves=3D20<BR>> renvox on track 1 on slot two =
either=20
standalone=3D20<BR>> =20
or<BR>=3D3D<BR>>from& lt;BR>> withing the =
FFX4 or=20
=3D<BR>>chainer...<BR>> =3D20<BR>> Now the actual =
latency=20
this plugin introduces is 64 =3D<BR>>samples.<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead=20
of=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>track<BR>&g t; 1 =
or if you=20
like ,track 1 is 64 sample=3D20<BR>> =
latent.<BR>> NOW=20
having in mind that you have put Faderworks =3D<BR>>on =
every=3D20<BR>> =20
track then BY<BR>=3D3D<BR>>JUST& lt;BR>> =
pushing the=20
ON button =3D<BR>>track 1 of=3D20<BR>> the Waves renvox =
preset then=20
=3D3D<BR>>Faderworks<BR>& amp;gt; =3D<BR>>DELAYS=20
all=3D20<BR>> other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING =
intact=20
the=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>audio<BR>&g t; =
track 1 for=20
which faderworks ignores =3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> =20
latency.<BR>> OVERALL latency is displayed on every =
track too=20
=3D<BR>><BR>> !!<BR>> It even substract =
latency=20
!!!!<BR>> So by =3D<BR>>putting a=3D20<BR>> =
waves=20
rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>mean<BR>> ; that faderworks will delay =
all=20
others =3D<BR>>again by 64=3D20<BR>> samples !! , thus=20
=3D3D<BR>>overall<BR>& ;gt; latency WILL REMAIN =
=3D<BR>>at=20
64=3D20<BR>> samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64=20
=3D<BR> >=3D3D<BR>>samples<BR& ;gt;> =
=3D20<BR>> latent=20
because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that =
64=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>samples<BR>& ;gt; for this track=20
=3D<BR> >!!<BR>><BR>&g t; =
Anyone=3D20<BR>> =20
understood what I typed in here ? :)<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>>Regards,<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
Dimitrios=3D3D20<BR>><BR> > eff H=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t; =20
wrote:<BR>> >Dimitrios<BR>> =20
><BR>> =3D<BR>>>How=3D20<BR>> does =
this function=20
with plugins inside a wrapper, for =
=3D<BR>>example=3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> >autotune wrapped inside =
FFX4?<BR>> =20
><BR>> =3D20<BR>> >JH<BR>> =20
><BR>> >wrote:<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>>>=20
I=3D20<BR>> tried the beta1 and it is =
marvelous.<BR>> =20
>> It holds =3D<BR>>64=3D20<BR>> presets with =
latencies so you=20
can just click the on=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>button<BR>& gt; =
anytime<BR>> =20
>> you =3D<BR>>load the=3D20<BR>> =
plugin...<BR>> =20
>> Regards,<BR>> >>=3D20<BR>> =20
Dimitrios<BR>><BR>> ;<BR>><BR>>I =
choose=20
Polesoft Lockspam to =3D<BR>>fight=3D20<BR>> spam, and=20
you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =
=3D20<BR>> =20
<BR>><BR>>< !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
4.0=3D20<BR>> =20
=
Transitional//EN" ><BR>><HTML>&l t;HEAD><BR>>=
<META=3D20<BR>> =20
http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
=3D<BR>>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20<BR>> =
6.00.2900.2180"=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>&g t;<STYLE></STYLE&=
gt;<BR>></HEA=3D<BR> >D><BR>><BODY=3D20 <BR>&=
gt; =20
bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>& lt;DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT>& amp;lt;/DIV><BR>&=
gt;<DIV><F=3D<BR>>ONT=3D20<BR >> =20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This all makes sense. Thank=20
you=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>for=3D3D20<BR>& amp;gt;that. Now=20
do=3D20<BR>> =20
the</FONT></DIV><BR&g t;><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
=3D<BR>><BR>> size=3D3D3D2>Paris automation lines still =
work on=20
=3D3D<BR>>plugins=3D20<BR>> =
that=3D3D20<BR>>are=20
=
=3D<BR> >being</FONT></DIV>&l t;BR>><DIV><FON=
T=3D20<BR>> =20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>compensated for with Faderworks or is =
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR >> =20
=
=3D<BR> >gui=3D3D20<BR>>screwey?< /FONT></DIV><B=
R>><DIV><F=3D<BR>>ONT=3D20 <BR>> =20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Meaning the time =
is=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D3D<BR>>offset?</FONT>& amp;lt;/DIV><BR>><DIV& ;=
gt;<FONT=20
=3D<BR>><BR>> face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
=
=3D<BR> ></DIV><BR>>&l t;DIV><FONT=3D20 <BR>>&nbs=
p;=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>When using stereo instances of=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>Faderworks do=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >you=3D3D20<BR>>actually< /FONT></DIV><B=
R>><DIV><F=3D<BR>>ONT=3D20 <BR>> =20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>hit the 'Stereo X box" in the Paris=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>plugin=3D20<BR >> gui=20
or=3D3D20<BR>>assign=3D20<BR>> =20
another</FONT></DIV><BR&a mp;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>mono =
instance for the=20
adjacent =3D3D<BR>>channel? =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
This=3D3D20<BR>>has caused trouble=3D20<BR>> =20
</FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt;<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>in my experience=20
</FONT><FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20&l t;BR>>size=3D3D3D2>w=
ith=20
mono/stereo =3D<BR>>combinations and=3D20<BR>> =20
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>><DIV&am p;gt;<FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>Thanks =
for your answers=20
and when should<BR>=3D3D<BR>>it =
=3D<BR>><BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >be=3D3D20<BR>>available?< ;/FONT></DIV><=
BR>><DIV><=3D<BR>>FONT=3D20 <BR>> =20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm=3D20<BR>> =20
ready!</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>><DIV&am p;gt;<FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>Tom=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt;<DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>><BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> ></DIV><BR>>&l t;BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>s=
tyle=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
=3D<BR>>0px;=3D20<BR>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px;=20
=3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =3D<BR>>2px =
solid;=3D20<BR>> =20
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> =20
<DIV>"Dimitrios"=3D20<BR>> =
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> =20
href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr<=
/A'>mailto:musurgio=3D<BR>>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A&=
lt;/A>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
wrote in =3D3D<BR>>message=3D3D20<BR& gt;> <A=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20 <BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</=
A>...</DIV><BR>OK< B=3D <BR>>'>news:480cbb3a$1@linu=
x">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=3D<BR>>;<BR>=
;OK<B</A>=3D3D<BR>> ;R>I=3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> thought I already explained but maybe I did not =
use the=20
right words=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>for<BR>it=3D3D2 0<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>>:)<BR><BR>You put=3D20<BR>> faderworks =
on one of=20
the native slots (you have=3D20<BR>> =20
four<BR>=3D3D<BR>>< ;BR>> =
right?)<BR>I put it=20
on the =3D<BR>>first=3D20<BR>> one.<BR>Then whatever =
you put on=20
=3D3D<BR>>other =3D<BR>>slots=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> it=20
does not matter because faderworks<BR>always does what=20
is=3D20<BR>> =20
supposed<BR>=3D3D<BR>>to= 3D3D20<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>>do.<BR><BR>Tom, yes why=3D20<BR>> =
should you use=20
sampleslide when Faderworks=3D20<BR>> =20
has<BR>=3D3D<BR>>been=3D3 D20<BR>> =20
written<BR>to do this =3D<BR>>for us only=3D20<BR>> =
BETTER=20
!<BR><BR>1. You put=20
=3D<BR> >=3D3D<BR>>faderworks=3D3D20& ;lt;BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
1in/1out on every Paris audio track.<BR>2. If you wanna use a=20
=3D<BR>>stereo=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>pair=20
of=3D3D20<BR>> tracks the put the =
2in/2out=3D20<BR>> =20
faderworks.<BR>3. I made a Default=20
project<BR>=3D3D<BR>>with =3D20 <BR>> =20
64=3D3D20<BR>> (4 cards) faderworks instances=20
=3D<BR>>already<BR>loaded so=3D20<BR>> no=20
hassle=3D3D20<BR>> thereafter...<BR>4. If you =
make a=20
=3D<BR>>list with=3D20<BR>> plugins and latencies=20
(64<BR>=3D3D<BR>>for now=3D3D20<BR>> is=20
=3D<BR>>more=3D20<BR>> than<BR>enouph) these will be =
remembered=20
with every =3D<BR>>new=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
project.<BR>Just remember to have the button in the =
OFF=3D20<BR>> =20
state.<BR>5. =3D3D<BR>>Even =
if=3D3D20<BR>> you use=20
FFX4 =3D<BR>>and/or=3D20<BR>> chainer or other wrpper on =
other=20
slots=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>w ill=3D3D20<BR>> =
do whatever=20
is =3D<BR>>asked to=3D20<BR>> do.<BR>6 HERE IS HOW =
IT=20
ACTUALLY=3D20<BR>> =20
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WORKS:<BR>The<BR>=3D3D<BR >>default=3D3D20<BR>&=
gt; =20
status of =3D<BR>>the plugin=3D20<BR>> is to ignore =
the latency=20
status for=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>the<BR>track=3D 3D20<BR>> you =
are putting=20
the=3D20<BR>> plugin.<BR>For =
instance.<BR><BR>A. You=20
put a=3D20<BR>> =20
waves<BR>=3D3D<BR>>renvox =3D3D20<BR>> on =
track 1 on=20
slot two =3D<BR>>either=3D20<BR>> standalone or =
from<BR>withing=20
the FFX4 =3D<BR> >=3D3D<BR>>or=3D3D20<BR&a mp;gt;> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
chainer...<BR>Now the actual latency this plugin introduces=20
is=3D20<BR>> 64=3D3D20<BR>> =
samples.<BR>That MEANS=20
that all other =3D<BR>>Paris audio=3D20<BR>> tracks are 64 =
=3D3D<BR>>samples ahead=3D3D20<BR>> of=20
=3D<BR>>track<BR>1 or=3D20<BR>> if you like ,track 1 =
is 64=20
sample latent.<BR>NOW =
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>having=3D20<BR >> =20
in=3D3D20<BR>> mind that you have put Faderworks on =
every track=20
=3D<BR>>then BY=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>JUST<BR>pushing =20
the=3D3D20<BR>> ON button =3D<BR>>track 1 of=20
the=3D20<BR>> Waves renvox preset then=3D20<BR>> =20
=
Faderworks<BR>DELAYS<BR>=3D3D&am p;lt;BR>>all=3D3D20<BR&g=
t;> =20
other =3D<BR>>Paris audio=3D20<BR>> tracks by 64 samples =
LEAVING=20
intact the =3D<BR> >=3D3D<BR>>audio<BR&g t;track =
1=3D20<BR>> =20
for=3D3D20<BR>> which faderworks ignores the=20
=3D<BR>>latency.<BR>OVERALL=3D20<BR>> latency is=20
displayed<BR>=3D3D<BR>>on =
every=3D3D20<BR>> track=20
=3D<BR>>too=3D20<BR>> !!<BR>It even substract =
latency=20
!!!!<BR>So by putting a=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>waves=3D3D20<BR> ;> rencomp (64 =
samples) on track=20
2 =3D<BR>>that does NOT=3D20<BR>> mean<BR>that=20
faderworks<BR>=3D3D<BR>>w ill=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>delay all=3D20<BR>> others again by 64 samples !! =
, thus=20
overall<BR>latency=3D20<BR>> =20
WILL<BR>=3D3D<BR>>REMAIN= 3D3D20<BR>> at =
64 samples,=20
ONLY track =3D<BR>>2 which was=3D20<BR>> already 64=20
samples<BR>latent =3D3D<BR>>because=20
=3D<BR>>of=3D3D20<BR>> track=3D20<BR>> 1 =
now faderworks=20
just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples<BR>for this=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>track=3D3D20<BR> ;> =
!!<BR><BR>Anyone=20
=3D<BR>>understood what I=3D20<BR>> typed in here =
?=3D20<BR>> =20
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=3D3D<BR>>:)<BR>Regards,& amp;lt;BR>Dimitrios=3D3D20<BR&g=
t;>=20
=3D20<BR>> <BR><BR>eff H =
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> =20
href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com&l=
t;/A>>=3D3D20'>mailto=3D<BR>>:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoove=
r@excite.com </A>>=3D3D20</A><B R>&g=3D <BR>>t; =
=3D20<BR>> =
wrote:<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>& amp;gt;<BR>>How=20
does this =3D<BR>><BR>> function with=20
=3D3D<BR>>plugins=3D3D20<BR& gt;> inside a =
wrapper,=20
=3D<BR>>for example=3D20<BR>> <BR>>autotune =
wrapped=20
inside=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >FFX4?<BR>><BR>&am p;gt;JH<BR>><BR>>=
;wrote:<=3D<BR>>BR>>>=3D20 <BR>> =20
I tried the =3D3D<BR>>beta1=3D3D20<BR> ;> and it =
is=3D20<BR>> marvelous.<BR>>> It holds 64 presets =
with=20
latencies so=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>you=20
can=3D3D20<BR>> just click the on=3D20<BR>> =20
button<BR>anytime<BR>>&am p;gt; you load=20
=3D<BR>>the=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
plugin...<BR>>>=20
Regards,<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
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| Re: Faderworks explained !!! [message #98163 is a reply to message #98161] |
Wed, 23 April 2008 15:06 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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That won't work
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Dimitrios,
>
>I'll try it but I don't think that works.
>
>Tom
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
>news:480fa340$1@linux...
>
> Dear Tom,
> Maybe if you highlight in the automation editor everything and just =
>nudge
> back ?
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >D.,
> >
> >How do you offset the automation after it's been written?
> >
> >The king of stupid questions.
> >
> >Tom
> >
> >
> >
> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =3D
> >news:480f206e$1@linux...
> >
> > Dear Tom,
> > This is just a plugin so the latencies are just added afterall.
> > So the automation could be made before doing any faderworks job and
=
>=3D
> >then
> > after putting all plugins with their latencies you just look at the
=
>=3D
> >overall
> > latency and offset the automation for that amount.
> > I don't know when this will be released...
> > Regards,
> > Dimitrios
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Dimitrios,
> > >This all makes sense. Thank you for that. Now do the
> > >Paris automation lines still work on plugins that are being
> > >compensated for with Faderworks or is the gui screwey?
> > >Meaning the time is offset?
> > >
> > >When using stereo instances of Faderworks do you actually
> > >hit the 'Stereo X box" in the Paris plugin gui or assign another
> > >mono instance for the adjacent channel? This has caused =
>trouble=3D3D20
> > >in my experience with mono/stereo combinations and Paris.
> > >
> > >Thanks for your answers and when should it be available?
> > >I'm ready!
> > >
> > >Tom=3D3D20
> > >
> > > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =3D3D
> > >news:480cbb3a$1@linux...
> > >
> > > OK
> > > I thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right
=
>=3D
> >words
> > =3D3D
> > >for
> > > it :)
> > >
> > > You put faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four =3D
> >right?)
> > > I put it on the first one.
> > > Then whatever you put on other slots it does not matter because
=
>=3D3D
> > >faderworks
> > > always does what is supposed to do.
> > >
> > > Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks has been
=
>=3D
> >=3D3D
> > >written
> > > to do this for us only BETTER !
> > >
> > > 1. You put faderworks 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.
> > > 2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks the put the 2in/2out
=
>=3D
> >=3D3D
> > >faderworks.
> > > 3. I made a Default project with 64 (4 cards) faderworks =
>instances
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >already
> > > loaded so no hassle thereafter...
> > > 4. If you make a list with plugins and latencies (64 for now is
=
>=3D
> >more =3D3D
> > >than
> > > enouph) these will be remembered with every new project.
> > > Just remember to have the button in the OFF state.
> > > 5. Even if you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other
=
>=3D
> >slots
> > =3D3D
> > >faderworks
> > > will do whatever is asked to do.
> > > 6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS:
> > > The default status of the plugin is to ignore the latency =
>status =3D
> >for
> > =3D3D
> > >the
> > > track you are putting the plugin.
> > > For instance.
> > >
> > > A. You put a waves renvox on track 1 on slot two either =
>standalone
> =3D
> >or
> > =3D3D
> > >from
> > > withing the FFX4 or chainer...
> > > Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64 samples.
> > > That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples =
>ahead =3D
> >of =3D3D
> > >track
> > > 1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.
> > > NOW having in mind that you have put Faderworks on every track =
>then
> =3D
> >BY
> > =3D3D
> > >JUST
> > > pushing the ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then =
>=3D3D
> > >Faderworks
> > > DELAYS all other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact
=
>=3D
> >the =3D3D
> > >audio
> > > track 1 for which faderworks ignores the latency.
> > > OVERALL latency is displayed on every track too !!
> > > It even substract latency !!!!
> > > So by putting a waves rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does
=
>NOT
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >mean
> > > that faderworks will delay all others again by 64 samples !! , =
>thus
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >overall
> > > latency WILL REMAIN at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was =
>already =3D
> >64 =3D3D
> > >samples
> > > latent because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64
=
>=3D
> >=3D3D
> > >samples
> > > for this track !!
> > >
> > > Anyone understood what I typed in here ? :)
> > > Regards,
> > > Dimitrios=3D3D20
> > >
> > > eff H <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
> > > >Dimitrios
> > > >
> > > >How does this function with plugins inside a wrapper, for =3D
> >example=3D3D20
> > > >autotune wrapped inside FFX4?
> > > >
> > > >JH
> > > >
> > > >wrote:
> > > >> I tried the beta1 and it is marvelous.
> > > >> It holds 64 presets with latencies so you can just click the
=
>on
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >button
> > > anytime
> > > >> you load the plugin...
> > > >> Regards,
> > > >> Dimitrios
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
>=3D3D
> > >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This all makes sense. =
>Thank you
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >for=3D3D20
> > >that. Now do the</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Paris automation lines =
>still =3D
> >work on =3D3D
> > >plugins that=3D3D20
> > >are being</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>compensated for with =
>Faderworks
> =3D
> >or is =3D3D
> > >the gui=3D3D20
> > >screwey?</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Meaning the time is =3D3D
> > >offset?</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>When using stereo =
>instances of =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >Faderworks do you=3D3D20
> > >actually</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>hit the 'Stereo X box" in
=
>the =3D
> >Paris =3D3D
> > >plugin gui or=3D3D20
> > >assign another</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>mono instance for the =
>adjacent =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >channel? This=3D3D20
> > >has caused trouble </FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>in my experience =
></FONT><FONT =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > >size=3D3D3D2>with mono/stereo combinations and Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for your answers =
>and when
> =3D
> >should
> > =3D3D
> > >it be=3D3D20
> > >available?</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm ready!</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> > >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
>5px; =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20
> > > href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
>wrote
> =3D
> >in =3D3D
> > >message=3D3D20
> > > <A =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D3D"news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><B=
>R>O=3D
> >K<B=3D3D
> > >R>I=3D3D20
> > > thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right =
>words
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >for<BR>it=3D3D20
> > > :)<BR><BR>You put faderworks on one of the native slots (you =
>have =3D
> >four
> > =3D3D
> > >
> > > right?)<BR>I put it on the first one.<BR>Then whatever you put =
>on =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >other slots=3D3D20
> > > it does not matter because faderworks<BR>always does what is =3D
> >supposed
> > =3D3D
> > >to=3D3D20
> > > do.<BR><BR>Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when =
>Faderworks
> =3D
> >has
> > =3D3D
> > >been=3D3D20
> > > written<BR>to do this for us only BETTER !<BR><BR>1. You put =
>=3D3D
> > >faderworks=3D3D20
> > > 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.<BR>2. If you wanna use a =
>=3D
> >stereo =3D3D
> > >pair of=3D3D20
> > > tracks the put the 2in/2out faderworks.<BR>3. I made a Default =
>=3D
> >project
> > =3D3D
> > >with 64=3D3D20
> > > (4 cards) faderworks instances already<BR>loaded so no =
>hassle=3D3D20
> > > thereafter...<BR>4. If you make a list with plugins and =
>latencies =3D
> >(64
> > =3D3D
> > >for now=3D3D20
> > > is more than<BR>enouph) these will be remembered with every =3D
> >new=3D3D20
> > > project.<BR>Just remember to have the button in the OFF =3D
> >state.<BR>5. =3D3D
> > >Even if=3D3D20
> > > you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other slots =3D3D
> > >faderworks<BR>will=3D3D20
> > > do whatever is asked to do.<BR>6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY =3D
> >WORKS:<BR>The
> > =3D3D
> > >default=3D3D20
> > > status of the plugin is to ignore the latency status for =3D3D
> > >the<BR>track=3D3D20
> > > you are putting the plugin.<BR>For instance.<BR><BR>A. You put a
=
>=3D
> >waves
> > =3D3D
> > >renvox=3D3D20
> > > on track 1 on slot two either standalone or from<BR>withing the
=
>=3D
> >FFX4 =3D3D
> > >or=3D3D20
> > > chainer...<BR>Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is =
>=3D
> >64=3D3D20
> > > samples.<BR>That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64
=
>=3D3D
> > >samples ahead=3D3D20
> > > of track<BR>1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample =
>latent.<BR>NOW =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >having in=3D3D20
> > > mind that you have put Faderworks on every track then BY =3D3D
> > >JUST<BR>pushing the=3D3D20
> > > ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then =3D
> >Faderworks<BR>DELAYS
> > =3D3D
> > >all=3D3D20
> > > other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the =3D3D
> > >audio<BR>track 1 for=3D3D20
> > > which faderworks ignores the latency.<BR>OVERALL latency is =3D
> >displayed
> > =3D3D
> > >on every=3D3D20
> > > track too !!<BR>It even substract latency !!!!<BR>So by putting
=
>a =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >waves=3D3D20
> > > rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT mean<BR>that =3D
> >faderworks
> > =3D3D
> > >will=3D3D20
> > > delay all others again by 64 samples !! , thus =
>overall<BR>latency =3D
> >WILL
> > =3D3D
> > >REMAIN=3D3D20
> > > at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 =
>samples<BR>latent
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >because of=3D3D20
> > > track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples<BR>for =
>this
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >track=3D3D20
> > > !!<BR><BR>Anyone understood what I typed in here ? =3D3D
> > >:)<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios=3D3D20
> > > <BR><BR>eff H <<A=3D3D20
> > > =
>href=3D3D3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D3D20
> > > wrote:<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>>How does this function with =3D3D
> > >plugins=3D3D20
> > > inside a wrapper, for example <BR>>autotune wrapped =
>inside=3D3D20
> > > FFX4?<BR>><BR>>JH<BR>><BR>>wrote:<BR>>> I tried the =3D3D
> > >beta1=3D3D20
> > > and it is marvelous.<BR>>> It holds 64 presets with latencies so
=
>=3D
> >=3D3D
> > >you can=3D3D20
> > > just click the on button<BR>anytime<BR>>> you load the=3D3D20
> > > plugin...<BR>>> Regards,<BR>>> Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> > ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
>fight =3D
> >spam, =3D3D
> > >and=3D3D20
> > >you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
>/re=3D
> >fer=3D3D
> > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>D.,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>How do you offset the automation
=
>after
> =3D
> >it's been=3D20
> >written?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The king of stupid =3D
> >questions.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>=3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote
=
>in =3D
> >message=3D20
> > <A =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"news:480f206e$1@linux">news:480f206e$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>D=
>ear=3D
> >=3D20
> > Tom,<BR>This is just a plugin so the latencies are just added =3D
> >afterall.<BR>So=3D20
> > the automation could be made before doing any faderworks job and =
>=3D
> >then<BR>after=3D20
> > putting all plugins with their latencies you just look at the=3D20
> > overall<BR>latency and offset the automation for that amount.<BR>I
=
>=3D
> >don't know=3D20
> > when this will be released...<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR><BR>"Tom
=
>=3D
> >Bruhl"=3D20
> > <<A href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>
=
>=3D
> >
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>This all makes =3D
> >sense. =3D20
> > Thank you for that. Now do the<BR>>Paris automation lines =3D
> >still work=3D20
> > on plugins that are being<BR>>compensated for with Faderworks or is
=
>=3D
> >the gui=3D20
> > screwey?<BR>>Meaning the time is offset?<BR>><BR>>When using =3D
> >stereo=3D20
> > instances of Faderworks do you actually<BR>>hit the 'Stereo X box"
=
>=3D
> >in the=3D20
> > Paris plugin gui or assign another<BR>>mono instance for the =3D
> >adjacent=3D20
> > channel? This has caused trouble=3D3D20<BR>>in my experience =3D
> >with=3D20
> > mono/stereo combinations and Paris.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for your =3D
> >answers and=3D20
> > when should it be available?<BR>>I'm=3D20
> > ready!<BR>><BR>>Tom=3D3D20<BR>><BR>> "Dimitrios" =3D
> ><<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote
=
>in =3D
> >message=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>news:480cbb3a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> =3D
> >OK<BR>> I=3D20
> > thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right=3D20
> > words<BR>=3D3D<BR>>for<BR>> it :)<BR>><BR>> You =3D
> >put=3D20
> > faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four =3D
> >right?)<BR>> I=3D20
> > put it on the first one.<BR>> Then whatever you put on other =3D
> >slots it=3D20
> > does not matter because =3D3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>> always =3D
> >does what is=3D20
> > supposed to do.<BR>><BR>> Tom, yes why should you use =3D
> >sampleslide=3D20
> > when Faderworks has been =3D3D<BR>>written<BR>> to do this =3D
> >for us only=3D20
> > BETTER !<BR>><BR>> 1. You put faderworks 1in/1out on every =3D
> >Paris=3D20
> > audio track.<BR>> 2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks =3D
> >the put=3D20
> > the 2in/2out =3D3D<BR>>faderworks.<BR>> 3. I made a Default =3D
> >project=3D20
> > with 64 (4 cards) faderworks instances =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>already<BR>> loaded=3D20
> > so no hassle thereafter...<BR>> 4. If you make a list with =3D
> >plugins=3D20
> > and latencies (64 for now is more =3D3D<BR>>than<BR>> =3D
> >enouph) these=3D20
> > will be remembered with every new project.<BR>> Just remember =3D
> >to have=3D20
> > the button in the OFF state.<BR>> 5. Even if you use FFX4 =3D
> >and/or=3D20
> > chainer or other wrpper on other =3D
> >slots<BR>=3D3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>> =3D20
> > will do whatever is asked to do.<BR>> 6 HERE IS HOW IT =3D
> >ACTUALLY=3D20
> > WORKS:<BR>> The default status of the plugin is to =3D
> >ignore the=3D20
> > latency status for<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the<BR>> track you are =3D
> >putting the=3D20
> > plugin.<BR>> For instance.<BR>><BR>> A. You put a =3D
> >waves=3D20
> > renvox on track 1 on slot two either standalone=3D20
> > or<BR>=3D3D<BR>>from<BR>> withing the FFX4 or =3D
> >chainer...<BR>> =3D20
> > Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64 =3D
> >samples.<BR>> =3D20
> > That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead =
>of=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>track<BR>> 1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample=3D20
> > latent.<BR>> NOW having in mind that you have put Faderworks =3D
> >on every=3D20
> > track then BY<BR>=3D3D<BR>>JUST<BR>> pushing the ON button =3D
> >track 1 of=3D20
> > the Waves renvox preset then =3D3D<BR>>Faderworks<BR>> =3D
> >DELAYS all=3D20
> > other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>audio<BR>> track 1 for which faderworks ignores =3D
> >the=3D20
> > latency.<BR>> OVERALL latency is displayed on every track too =3D
> >
> > !!<BR>> It even substract latency !!!!<BR>> So by =3D
> >putting a=3D20
> > waves rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>mean<BR>> that faderworks will delay all others =3D
> >again by 64=3D20
> > samples !! , thus =3D3D<BR>>overall<BR>> latency WILL REMAIN =3D
> >at 64=3D20
> > samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>samples<BR>> =3D20
> > latent because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that =
>64=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>samples<BR>> for this track =3D
> >!!<BR>><BR>> Anyone=3D20
> > understood what I typed in here ? :)<BR>> =3D
> >Regards,<BR>> =3D20
> > Dimitrios=3D3D20<BR>><BR>> eff H <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>> >Dimitrios<BR>> ><BR>> =3D
> >>How=3D20
> > does this function with plugins inside a wrapper, for =3D
> >example=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > >autotune wrapped inside FFX4?<BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> > >JH<BR>> ><BR>> >wrote:<BR>> =3D
> >>> I=3D20
> > tried the beta1 and it is marvelous.<BR>> >> It holds =3D
> >64=3D20
> > presets with latencies so you can just click the on=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>button<BR>> anytime<BR>> >> you =3D
> >load the=3D20
> > plugin...<BR>> >> Regards,<BR>> >>=3D20
> > Dimitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =3D
> >fight=3D20
> > spam, and you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.2900.2180"=3D20
> > =3D
> >name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
> >D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> > bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > =3D
> >size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=3D
> >ONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This all makes sense. Thank you=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>for=3D3D20<BR>>that. Now do=3D20
> > the</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
> >
> > size=3D3D3D2>Paris automation lines still work on =
>=3D3D<BR>>plugins=3D20
> > that=3D3D20<BR>>are =3D
> >being</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>compensated for with Faderworks or is
=
>=3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>the=3D20
> > =3D
> >gui=3D3D20<BR>>screwey?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=3D
> >ONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Meaning the time is=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>offset?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
> ></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>When using stereo instances of =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>Faderworks do=3D20
> > =3D
> >you=3D3D20<BR>>actually</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=3D
> >ONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>hit the 'Stereo X box" in the Paris =
>=3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>plugin=3D20
> > gui or=3D3D20<BR>>assign=3D20
> > another</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>mono instance for the adjacent =3D3D<BR>>channel? =3D
> >
> > This=3D3D20<BR>>has caused trouble=3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>in my experience </FONT><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>with mono/stereo
=
>=3D
> >combinations and=3D20
> > Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for your answers and when =
>should<BR>=3D3D<BR>>it =3D
> >
> > =3D
> >be=3D3D20<BR>>available?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><=3D
> >FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm=3D20
> > ready!</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > =3D
> ></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px;=3D20
> > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000
=
>=3D
> >2px solid;=3D20
> > MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Dimitrios"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musur=
>gio=3D
> >@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D20
> > wrote in =3D3D<BR>>message=3D3D20<BR>> <A =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>O=
>K<B=3D
> >'>news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=3D
> >;<BR>OK<B</A>=3D3D<BR>>R>I=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right =
>words=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>for<BR>it=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >:)<BR><BR>You put=3D20
> > faderworks on one of the native slots (you have=3D20
> > four<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> right?)<BR>I put it on the =3D
> >first=3D20
> > one.<BR>Then whatever you put on =3D3D<BR>>other =3D
> >slots=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > it does not matter because faderworks<BR>always does what is=3D20
> > supposed<BR>=3D3D<BR>>to=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >do.<BR><BR>Tom, yes why=3D20
> > should you use sampleslide when Faderworks=3D20
> > has<BR>=3D3D<BR>>been=3D3D20<BR>> written<BR>to do this =3D
> >for us only=3D20
> > BETTER !<BR><BR>1. You put =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>faderworks=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.<BR>2. If you wanna use a =3D
> >stereo=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>pair of=3D3D20<BR>> tracks the put the 2in/2out=3D20
> > faderworks.<BR>3. I made a Default project<BR>=3D3D<BR>>with=3D20
> > 64=3D3D20<BR>> (4 cards) faderworks instances =3D
> >already<BR>loaded so=3D20
> > no hassle=3D3D20<BR>> thereafter...<BR>4. If you make a =3D
> >list with=3D20
> > plugins and latencies (64<BR>=3D3D<BR>>for now=3D3D20<BR>> is =3D
> >more=3D20
> > than<BR>enouph) these will be remembered with every =3D
> >new=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > project.<BR>Just remember to have the button in the OFF=3D20
> > state.<BR>5. =3D3D<BR>>Even if=3D3D20<BR>> you use FFX4 =3D
> >and/or=3D20
> > chainer or other wrpper on other slots=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>will=3D3D20<BR>> do whatever is =3D
> >asked to=3D20
> > do.<BR>6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY=3D20
> > WORKS:<BR>The<BR>=3D3D<BR>>default=3D3D20<BR>> status of =3D
> >the plugin=3D20
> > is to ignore the latency status for=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>the<BR>track=3D3D20<BR>> you are putting the=3D20
> > plugin.<BR>For instance.<BR><BR>A. You put a=3D20
> > waves<BR>=3D3D<BR>>renvox=3D3D20<BR>> on track 1 on slot two =3D
> >either=3D20
> > standalone or from<BR>withing the FFX4 =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>or=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > chainer...<BR>Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is=3D20
> > 64=3D3D20<BR>> samples.<BR>That MEANS that all other =3D
> >Paris audio=3D20
> > tracks are 64 =3D3D<BR>>samples ahead=3D3D20<BR>> of =3D
> >track<BR>1 or=3D20
> > if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.<BR>NOW =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>having=3D20
> > in=3D3D20<BR>> mind that you have put Faderworks on every track =
>=3D
> >then BY=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>JUST<BR>pushing the=3D3D20<BR>> ON button =3D
> >track 1 of the=3D20
> > Waves renvox preset then=3D20
> > Faderworks<BR>DELAYS<BR>=3D3D<BR>>all=3D3D20<BR>> other =3D
> >Paris audio=3D20
> > tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>audio<BR>track 1=3D20
> > for=3D3D20<BR>> which faderworks ignores the =3D
> >latency.<BR>OVERALL=3D20
> > latency is displayed<BR>=3D3D<BR>>on every=3D3D20<BR>> track =3D
> >too=3D20
> > !!<BR>It even substract latency !!!!<BR>So by putting a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>waves=3D3D20<BR>> rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 =3D
> >that does NOT=3D20
> > mean<BR>that faderworks<BR>=3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >delay all=3D20
> > others again by 64 samples !! , thus overall<BR>latency=3D20
> > WILL<BR>=3D3D<BR>>REMAIN=3D3D20<BR>> at 64 samples, ONLY track =3D
> >2 which was=3D20
> > already 64 samples<BR>latent =3D3D<BR>>because =3D
> >of=3D3D20<BR>> track=3D20
> > 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples<BR>for this=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>track=3D3D20<BR>> !!<BR><BR>Anyone =3D
> >understood what I=3D20
> > typed in here ?=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>:)<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <BR><BR>eff H <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D3D20'>m=
>ailto=3D
> >:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>&g=3D
> >t; =3D20
> > wrote:<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>>How does this =3D
> >
> > function with =3D3D<BR>>plugins=3D3D20<BR>> inside a wrapper, =3D
> >for example=3D20
> > <BR>>autotune wrapped inside=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >FFX4?<BR>><BR>>JH<BR>><BR>>wrote:<=3D
> >BR>>>=3D20
> > I tried the =3D3D<BR>>beta1=3D3D20<BR>> and it is=3D20
> > marvelous.<BR>>> It holds 64 presets with latencies so=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>you can=3D3D20<BR>> just click the on=3D20
> > button<BR>anytime<BR>>> you load =3D
> >the=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > plugin...<BR>>> Regards,<BR>>>=3D20
> > Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =3D
> >spam,=3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>>href=3D3D3D "<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>fer=3D
> =
>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=
>
> >>=3D3D<BR>>.html</A> =3D20
> > =3D
> ></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=3D
> >BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll try it but I don't think that=20
>works.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
>message=20
> <A =
>href=3D"news:480fa340$1@linux">news:480fa340$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Dear=
>=20
> Tom,<BR>Maybe if you highlight in the automation editor everything and
=
>just=20
> nudge<BR>back ?<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>D.,<BR>><BR>>How do you offset the =
>
> automation after it's been written?<BR>><BR>>The king of stupid=20
> questions.<BR>><BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> =20
> "Dimitrios" <<A =
>href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
> wrote in message =
>=3D<BR>>news:480f206e$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Dear=20
> Tom,<BR>> This is just a plugin so the latencies are just =
>added=20
> afterall.<BR>> So the automation could be made before doing =
>any=20
> faderworks job and =3D<BR>>then<BR>> after putting all =
>plugins with=20
> their latencies you just look at the =3D<BR>>overall<BR>> =
>latency=20
> and offset the automation for that amount.<BR>> I don't know =
>when=20
> this will be released...<BR>> Regards,<BR>> =20
> Dimitrios<BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =20
> >Dimitrios,<BR>> >This all makes sense. Thank you =
>for=20
> that. Now do the<BR>> >Paris automation lines still =
>work on=20
> plugins that are being<BR>> >compensated for with =
>Faderworks or is=20
> the gui screwey?<BR>> >Meaning the time is =
>offset?<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> >When using stereo instances of Faderworks do =
>you=20
> actually<BR>> >hit the 'Stereo X box" in the Paris plugin =
>gui or=20
> assign another<BR>> >mono instance for the adjacent =
>channel? =20
> This has caused trouble=3D3D20<BR>> >in my experience with =
>
> mono/stereo combinations and Paris.<BR>> ><BR>> =20
> >Thanks for your answers and when should it be =
>available?<BR>> =20
> >I'm ready!<BR>> ><BR>> =
>>Tom=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > "Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
>message=20
> =3D3D<BR>> >news:480cbb3a$1@linux...<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > OK<BR>> > I thought I =
>already=20
> explained but maybe I did not use the right =
>=3D<BR>>words<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> >for<BR>> > it =
>:)<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > You put faderworks on one of the native =
>slots=20
> (you have four =3D<BR>>right?)<BR>> > I put it on =
>the first=20
> one.<BR>> > Then whatever you put on other slots it =
>does not=20
> matter because =3D3D<BR>> >faderworks<BR>> =
>> =20
> always does what is supposed to do.<BR>> ><BR>> =20
> > Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks has =
>been=20
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >written<BR>> > to =
>do this for=20
> us only BETTER !<BR>> ><BR>> > 1. You =
>put=20
> faderworks 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.<BR>> =
>> 2. If=20
> you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks the put the 2in/2out=20
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >faderworks.<BR>> =
>> 3. I made=20
> a Default project with 64 (4 cards) faderworks=20
> instances<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >already<BR>> =
>> =20
> loaded so no hassle thereafter...<BR>> > 4. If you =
>make a=20
> list with plugins and latencies (64 for now is =3D<BR>>more =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >than<BR>> > enouph) these will be remembered =
>with every=20
> new project.<BR>> > Just remember to have the button =
>in the=20
> OFF state.<BR>> > 5. Even if you use FFX4 and/or =
>chainer or=20
> other wrpper on other =3D<BR>>slots<BR>> =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >faderworks<BR>> > will do whatever is asked to=20
> do.<BR>> > 6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY =
>WORKS:<BR>> =20
> > The default status of the plugin is to ignore the =
>latency=20
> status =3D<BR>>for<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>>the<BR>> =20
> > track you are putting the plugin.<BR>> > =
>For=20
> instance.<BR>> ><BR>> > A. You put a =
>waves=20
> renvox on track 1 on slot two either =
>standalone<BR>=3D<BR>>or<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> >from<BR>> > withing the FFX4 =
>or=20
> chainer...<BR>> > Now the actual latency this plugin =
>
> introduces is 64 samples.<BR>> > That MEANS that all =
>other=20
> Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead =3D<BR>>of =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >track<BR>> > 1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 =
>sample=20
> latent.<BR>> > NOW having in mind that you have put=20
> Faderworks on every track then<BR>=3D<BR>>BY<BR>> =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >JUST<BR>> > pushing the ON button track 1 of the =
>Waves=20
> renvox preset then =3D3D<BR>> >Faderworks<BR>> =
>> =20
> DELAYS all other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact =
>=3D<BR>>the=20
> =3D3D<BR>> >audio<BR>> > track 1 for =
>which=20
> faderworks ignores the latency.<BR>> > OVERALL =
>latency is=20
> displayed on every track too !!<BR>> > It even =
>substract=20
> latency !!!!<BR>> > So by putting a waves rencomp =
>(64=20
> samples) on track 2 that does NOT<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >mean<BR>> > that faderworks will delay all =
>others again=20
> by 64 samples !! , thus<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >overall<BR>> > latency WILL REMAIN at 64 =
>samples, ONLY=20
> track 2 which was already =3D<BR>>64 =3D3D<BR>> =20
> >samples<BR>> > latent because of track 1 now =
>faderworks=20
> just SUBSTRACTS that 64 =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>>samples<BR>> =20
> > for this track !!<BR>> ><BR>> =
>> =20
> Anyone understood what I typed in here ? :)<BR>> > =20
> Regards,<BR>> > Dimitrios=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > eff H <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>> > >Dimitrios<BR>> > =
>
> ><BR>> > >How does this function with plugins =
>inside a=20
> wrapper, for =3D<BR>>example=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>>autotune=20
> wrapped inside FFX4?<BR>> > ><BR>> =
>> =20
> >JH<BR>> > ><BR>> > =20
> >wrote:<BR>> > >> I tried the beta1 and it =
>is=20
> marvelous.<BR>> > >> It holds 64 presets with=20
> latencies so you can just click the =
>on<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >button<BR>> > anytime<BR>> > =
>>>=20
> you load the plugin...<BR>> > >>=20
> Regards,<BR>> > >> Dimitrios<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >I choose =
>Polesoft=20
> Lockspam to fight spam, and you?<BR>> =20
> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>> =
>><HTML><HEAD><BR>> =20
> ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=20
> =3D3D<BR>> >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> =
>><META=20
> content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" =
>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> =20
> ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> =
>></HEAD><BR>> =20
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =
>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This all =
>makes=20
> sense. Thank you<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >for=3D3D20<BR>> >that. Now do=20
> the</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Paris automation lines still =
>=3D<BR>>work on=20
> =3D3D<BR>> >plugins that=3D3D20<BR>> >are=20
> being</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>compensated for with =
>Faderworks<BR>=3D<BR>>or is=20
> =3D3D<BR>> >the gui=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> >screwey?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Meaning the time is =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >offset?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>When using =
>stereo=20
> instances of =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >Faderworks do=20
> you=3D3D20<BR>> =
>>actually</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>hit the =
>'Stereo X box" in=20
> the =3D<BR>>Paris =3D3D<BR>> >plugin gui =
>or=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> >assign another</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>mono instance =
>for the=20
> adjacent =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >channel? =
>This=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> >has caused trouble </FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>in my =
>experience=20
> </FONT><FONT =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> >size=3D3D3D2>with =
>mono/stereo=20
> combinations and Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
>
> </DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for your answers and=20
> when<BR>=3D<BR>>should<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >it=20
> be=3D3D20<BR>> =
>>available?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm=20
> ready!</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom=20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>> =
>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
>0px"><BR>> =20
> > <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =
>> =20
> href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
> wrote<BR>=3D<BR>>in =3D3D<BR>> =
>>message=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > <A =3D3D<BR>> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>O'>n=
>ews:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=
>t;BR>O</A>=3D<BR>>K<B=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >R>I=3D3D20<BR>> > thought I already explained =
>but maybe=20
> I did not use the right words<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >for<BR>it=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>:)<BR><BR>You=20
> put faderworks on one of the native slots (you have=20
> =3D<BR>>four<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> ><BR>> =
>> =20
> right?)<BR>I put it on the first one.<BR>Then whatever you =
>put on=20
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >other slots=3D3D20<BR>> =
>> it=20
> does not matter because faderworks<BR>always does what is=20
> =3D<BR>>supposed<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>>to=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > do.<BR><BR>Tom, yes why should you use =
>sampleslide when=20
> Faderworks<BR>=3D<BR>>has<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =20
> >been=3D3D20<BR>> > written<BR>to do this =
>for us only=20
> BETTER !<BR><BR>1. You put =3D3D<BR>> =20
> >faderworks=3D3D20<BR>> > 1in/1out on every Paris =
>audio=20
> track.<BR>2. If you wanna use a =3D<BR>>stereo =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >pair of=3D3D20<BR>> > tracks the put the =
>2in/2out=20
> faderworks.<BR>3. I made a Default =
>=3D<BR>>project<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> >with 64=3D3D20<BR>> > (4 =
>cards)=20
> faderworks instances already<BR>loaded so no =
>hassle=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > thereafter...<BR>4. If you make a list with plugins =
>and=20
> latencies =3D<BR>>(64<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >for=20
> now=3D3D20<BR>> > is more than<BR>enouph) =
>these will be=20
> remembered with every =3D<BR>>new=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> project.<BR>Just remember to have the button in the OFF=20
> =3D<BR>>state.<BR>5. =3D3D<BR>> >Even =
>if=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other slots=20
> =3D3D<BR>> >faderworks<BR>will=3D3D20<BR>> =
>> =20
> do whatever is asked to do.<BR>6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY=20
> =3D<BR>>WORKS:<BR>The<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =20
> >default=3D3D20<BR>> > status of the plugin =
>is to=20
> ignore the latency status for =3D3D<BR>> =20
> >the<BR>track=3D3D20<BR>> > you are putting =
>the=20
> plugin.<BR>For instance.<BR><BR>A. You put a=20
> =3D<BR>>waves<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>>renvox=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > on track 1 on slot two either standalone or =
>from<BR>withing=20
> the =3D<BR>>FFX4 =3D3D<BR>> >or=3D3D20<BR>> =
>> =20
> chainer...<BR>Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is=20
> =3D<BR>>64=3D3D20<BR>> > samples.<BR>That =
>MEANS that=20
> all other Paris audio tracks are 64 =3D3D<BR>> >samples=20
> ahead=3D3D20<BR>> > of track<BR>1 or if you =
>like ,track=20
> 1 is 64 sample latent.<BR>NOW =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>>having=20
> in=3D3D20<BR>> > mind that you have put Faderworks =
>on every=20
> track then BY =3D3D<BR>> >JUST<BR>pushing=20
> the=3D3D20<BR>> > ON button track 1 of the Waves =
>renvox preset=20
> then =3D<BR>>Faderworks<BR>DELAYS<BR>> =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >all=3D3D20<BR>> > other Paris audio tracks by 64 =
>samples=20
> LEAVING intact the =3D3D<BR>> >audio<BR>track 1=20
> for=3D3D20<BR>> > which faderworks ignores the=20
> latency.<BR>OVERALL latency is =
>=3D<BR>>displayed<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> >on every=3D3D20<BR>> > track =
>too=20
> !!<BR>It even substract latency !!!!<BR>So by putting a=20
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >waves=3D3D20<BR>> =
>> rencomp (64=20
> samples) on track 2 that does NOT mean<BR>that=20
> =3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =20
> >will=3D3D20<BR>> > delay all others again by 64 =
>samples !!=20
> , thus overall<BR>latency =3D<BR>>WILL<BR>> =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >REMAIN=3D3D20<BR>> > at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 =
>which was=20
> already 64 samples<BR>latent<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>>because=20
> of=3D3D20<BR>> > track 1 now faderworks just =
>SUBSTRACTS that=20
> 64 samples<BR>for this<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >track=3D3D20<BR>> > !!<BR><BR>Anyone =
>
> understood what I typed in here ? =3D3D<BR>> =20
> >:)<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios=3D3D20<BR>> =
>> =20
> <BR><BR>eff H <<A=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D3D20'>mail=
>to:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D3D20</A><B=
>R>> =20
> > =
>wrote:<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>>How does=20
> this function with =3D3D<BR>> =
>>plugins=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> inside a wrapper, for example <BR>>autotune wrapped=20
> inside=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> =
>FFX4?<BR>><BR>>JH<BR>><BR>>wrote:<=
>BR>>>=20
> I tried the =3D3D<BR>> >beta1=3D3D20<BR>> =
>> and it=20
> is marvelous.<BR>>> It holds 64 presets with latencies so=20
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >you can=3D3D20<BR>> =
>> just=20
> click the on button<BR>anytime<BR>>> you load=20
> the=3D3D20<BR>> > plugin...<BR>>>=20
> Regards,<BR>>>=20
> Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>> =
>><DIV><FONT=20
> size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
>fight=20
> =3D<BR>>spam, =3D3D<BR>> >and=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> >you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>> =
>=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re'>h=
>ttp://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re</A>=3D<B=
>R>>fer=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >.html</A> =20
> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>> =20
> ><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML =
>PUBLIC=20
> "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> 6.00.2900.2180"=20
> =
>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>D><BR>><BODY=20
> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>D.,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>How do you offset the automation=20
> after<BR>=3D<BR>>it's=20
> =
>been=3D20<BR>>written?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><=
>FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The king of stupid=20
> =3D<BR>>questions.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=20
> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> =
></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>0px;=20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
>2px solid;=20
> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Dimitrios"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
> wrote in =3D<BR>>message=3D20<BR>> <A =
>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:480f206e$1@linux">news:480f206e$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Dear=
>'>news:480f206e$1@linux">news:480f206e$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>;<BR>Dear</A>=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> Tom,<BR>This is just a plugin so the latencies are just added=20
> =3D<BR>>afterall.<BR>So=3D20<BR>> the automation =
>could be made=20
> before doing any faderworks job and=20
> =3D<BR>>then<BR>after=3D20<BR>> putting all plugins =
>with their=20
> latencies you just look at the=3D20<BR>> =
>overall<BR>latency and=20
> offset the automation for that amount.<BR>I =3D<BR>>don't=20
> know=3D20<BR>> when this will be=20
> =
>released...<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR><BR>"Tom =
>
> =3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D20<BR>> <<A href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
> =
>wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>T=
>his=20
> all makes =3D<BR>>sense. =3D20<BR>> Thank you for =
>that. Now do=20
> the<BR>>Paris automation lines =3D<BR>>still =
>work=3D20<BR>> =20
> on plugins that are being<BR>>compensated for with Faderworks =
>or is=20
> =3D<BR>>the gui=3D20<BR>> screwey?<BR>>Meaning =
>the time is=20
> offset?<BR>><BR>>When using =
>=3D<BR>>stereo=3D20<BR>> =20
> instances of Faderworks do you actually<BR>>hit the 'Stereo X =
>box"=20
> =3D<BR>>in the=3D20<BR>> Paris plugin gui or assign=20
> another<BR>>mono instance for the =
>=3D<BR>>adjacent=3D20<BR>> =20
> channel? This has caused trouble=3D3D20<BR>>in my =
>experience=20
> =3D<BR>>with=3D20<BR>> mono/stereo combinations and=20
> Paris.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for your =3D<BR>>answers=20
> and=3D20<BR>> when should it be=20
> available?<BR>>I'm=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>ready!<BR>><BR>>Tom=3D3D20<BR>><BR>>&=
>nbsp;=20
> "Dimitrios" =3D<BR>><<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
> wrote in =3D<BR>>message=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>news:480cbb3a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>>&n=
>bsp;=20
> =3D<BR>>OK<BR>> I=3D20<BR>> thought I =
>already explained=20
> but maybe I did not use the right=3D20<BR>> =20
> words<BR>=3D3D<BR>>for<BR>> it=20
> :)<BR>><BR>> You =
>=3D<BR>>put=3D20<BR>> =20
> faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four=20
> =3D<BR>>right?)<BR>> I=3D20<BR>> put it on =
>the first=20
> one.<BR>> Then whatever you put on other =
>=3D<BR>>slots=20
> it=3D20<BR>> does not matter because=20
> =3D3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>> always =
>=3D<BR>>does what=20
> is=3D20<BR>> supposed to =
>do.<BR>><BR>> Tom, yes=20
> why should you use =3D<BR>>sampleslide=3D20<BR>> when =
>Faderworks has=20
> been =3D3D<BR>>written<BR>> to do this =
>=3D<BR>>for us=20
> only=3D20<BR>> BETTER !<BR>><BR>> 1. =
>You put=20
> faderworks 1in/1out on every =3D<BR>>Paris=3D20<BR>> audio =
>
> track.<BR>> 2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks =
>
> =3D<BR>>the put=3D20<BR>> the 2in/2out=20
> =3D3D<BR>>faderworks.<BR>> 3. I made a Default =
>
> =3D<BR>>project=3D20<BR>> with 64 (4 cards) faderworks =
>instances=20
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>already<BR>> =
>loaded=3D20<BR>> =20
> so no hassle thereafter...<BR>> 4. If you make a list =
>with=20
> =3D<BR>>plugins=3D20<BR>> and latencies (64 for now is =
>more=20
> =3D3D<BR>>than<BR>> =3D<BR>>enouph)=20
> these=3D20<BR>> will be remembered with every new=20
> project.<BR>> Just remember =3D<BR>>to =
>have=3D20<BR>> =20
> the button in the OFF state.<BR>> 5. Even if you use =
>FFX4=20
> =3D<BR>>and/or=3D20<BR>> chainer or other wrpper on other=20
> =3D<BR>>slots<BR>=3D3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>>=20
> =3D20<BR>> will do whatever is asked to =
>do.<BR>> 6 HERE=20
> IS HOW IT =3D<BR>>ACTUALLY=3D20<BR>> =
>WORKS:<BR>> The=20
> default status of the plugin is to =3D<BR>>ignore =
>the=3D20<BR>> =20
> latency status for<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the<BR>> =
>track you=20
> are =3D<BR>>putting the=3D20<BR>> =
>plugin.<BR>> For=20
> instance.<BR>><BR>> A. You put a=20
> =3D<BR>>waves=3D20<BR>> renvox on track 1 on slot two =
>either=20
> standalone=3D20<BR>> =20
> or<BR>=3D3D<BR>>from<BR>> withing the =
>FFX4 or=20
> =3D<BR>>chainer...<BR>> =3D20<BR>> Now the actual =
>latency=20
> this plugin introduces is 64 =3D<BR>>samples.<BR>> =
>=3D20<BR>> =20
> That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead=20
> of=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>track<BR>> 1 =
>or if you=20
> like ,track 1 is 64 sample=3D20<BR>> =
>latent.<BR>> NOW=20
> having in mind that you have put Faderworks =3D<BR>>on =
>every=3D20<BR>> =20
> track then BY<BR>=3D3D<BR>>JUST<BR>> =
>pushing the=20
> ON button =3D<BR>>track 1 of=3D20<BR>> the Waves renvox =
>preset then=20
> =3D3D<BR>>Faderworks<BR>> =3D<BR>>DELAYS=20
> all=3D20<BR>> other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING =
>intact=20
> the=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>audio<BR>> =
>track 1 for=20
> which faderworks ignores =3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> =20
> latency.<BR>> OVERALL latency is displayed on every =
>track too=20
> =3D<BR>><BR>> !!<BR>> It even substract =
>latency=20
> !!!!<BR>> So by =3D<BR>>putting a=3D20<BR>> =
>waves=20
> rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>mean<BR>> that faderworks will delay =
>all=20
> others =3D<BR>>again by 64=3D20<BR>> samples !! , thus=20
> =3D3D<BR>>overall<BR>> latency WILL REMAIN =
>=3D<BR>>at=20
> 64=3D20<BR>> samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64=20
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>samples<BR>> =
>=3D20<BR>> latent=20
> because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that =
>64=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>samples<BR>> for this track=20
> =3D<BR>>!!<BR>><BR>> =
>Anyone=3D20<BR>> =20
> understood what I typed in here ? :)<BR>> =20
> =3D<BR>>Regards,<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
> Dimitrios=3D3D20<BR>><BR>> eff H=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
>:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
>t; =20
> wrote:<BR>> >Dimitrios<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> =3D<BR>>>How=3D20<BR>> does =
>this function=20
> with plugins inside a wrapper, for =
>=3D<BR>>example=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> =3D20<BR>> >autotune wrapped inside =
>FFX4?<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> =3D20<BR>> >JH<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> >wrote:<BR>> =
>=3D<BR>>>>=20
> I=3D20<BR>> tried the beta1 and it is =
>marvelous.<BR>> =20
> >> It holds =3D<BR>>64=3D20<BR>> presets with =
>latencies so you=20
> can just click the on=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>button<BR>> =
>anytime<BR>> =20
> >> you =3D<BR>>load the=3D20<BR>> =
>plugin...<BR>> =20
> >> Regards,<BR>> >>=3D20<BR>> =20
> Dimitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I =
>choose=20
> Polesoft Lockspam to =3D<BR>>fight=3D20<BR>> spam, and=20
> you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =
>=3D20<BR>> =20
> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
>
> 4.0=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>=
><META=3D20<BR>> =20
> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
>content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>
> =3D<BR>>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20<BR>> =
>6.00.2900.2180"=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE&=
>gt;<BR>></HEA=3D<BR>>D><BR>><BODY=3D20<BR>&=
>gt; =20
> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>&=
>gt;<DIV><F=3D<BR>>ONT=3D20<BR>> =20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This all makes sense. Thank=20
> you=3D20<BR>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>for=3D3D20<BR>>that. Now=20
> do=3D20<BR>> =20
> the</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3D3DArial=20
> =3D<BR>><BR>> size=3D3D3D2>Paris automation lines still =
>work on=20
> =3D3D<BR>>plugins=3D20<BR>> =
>that=3D3D20<BR>>are=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>being</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FON=
>T=3D20<BR>> =20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>compensated for with Faderworks or is =
>
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>gui=3D3D20<BR>>screwey?</FONT></DIV><B=
>R>><DIV><F=3D<BR>>ONT=3D20<BR>> =20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Meaning the time =
>is=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>offset?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV&=
>gt;<FONT=20
> =3D<BR>><BR>> face=3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> =
>=3D<BR>></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>>&nbs=
>p;=20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>When using stereo instances of=20
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>Faderworks do=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>you=3D3D20<BR>>actually</FONT></DIV><B=
>R>><DIV><F=3D<BR>>ONT=3D20<BR>> =20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>hit the 'Stereo X box" in the Paris=20
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>plugin=3D20<BR>> gui=20
> or=3D3D20<BR>>assign=3D20<BR>> =20
> another</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>mono =
>instance for the=20
> adjacent =3D3D<BR>>channel? =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
> This=3D3D20<BR>>has caused trouble=3D20<BR>> =20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>in my experience=20
> </FONT><FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>w=
>ith=20
> mono/stereo =3D<BR>>combinations and=3D20<BR>> =20
> Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
>size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>Thanks =
>for your answers=20
> and when should<BR>=3D3D<BR>>it =
>=3D<BR>><BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>be=3D3D20<BR>>available?</FONT></DIV><=
>BR>><DIV><=3D<BR>>FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm=3D20<BR>> =20
> ready!</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
>size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>Tom=20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>><BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>s=
>tyle=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
> =3D<BR>>0px;=3D20<BR>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
>5px;=20
> =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =3D<BR>>2px =
>solid;=3D20<BR>> =20
> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> =20
> <DIV>"Dimitrios"=3D20<BR>> =
><<A=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr<=
>/A'>mailto:musurgio=3D<BR>>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A&=
>lt;/A>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> wrote in =3D3D<BR>>message=3D3D20<BR>> <A=20
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</=
>A>...</DIV><BR>OK<B=3D<BR>>'>news:480cbb3a$1@linu=
>x">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=3D<BR>>;<BR>=
>;OK<B</A>=3D3D<BR>>R>I=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> =3D20<BR>> thought I already explained but maybe I did not =
>use the=20
> right words=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>for<BR>it=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D<BR>>:)<BR><BR>You put=3D20<BR>> faderworks =
>on one of=20
> the native slots (you have=3D20<BR>> =20
> four<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> =
>right?)<BR>I put it=20
> on the =3D<BR>>first=3D20<BR>> one.<BR>Then whatever =
>you put on=20
> =3D3D<BR>>other =3D<BR>>slots=3D3D20<BR>> =
>=3D20<BR>> it=20
> does not matter because faderworks<BR>always does what=20
> is=3D20<BR>> =20
> supposed<BR>=3D3D<BR>>to=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D<BR>>do.<BR><BR>Tom, yes why=3D20<BR>> =
>should you use=20
> sampleslide when Faderworks=3D20<BR>> =20
> has<BR>=3D3D<BR>>been=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> written<BR>to do this =3D<BR>>for us only=3D20<BR>> =
>BETTER=20
> !<BR><BR>1. You put=20
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>faderworks=3D3D20<BR>> =
>=3D20<BR>> =20
> 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.<BR>2. If you wanna use a=20
> =3D<BR>>stereo=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>pair=20
> of=3D3D20<BR>> tracks the put the =
>2in/2out=3D20<BR>> =20
> faderworks.<BR>3. I made a Default=20
> project<BR>=3D3D<BR>>with=3D20<BR>> =20
> 64=3D3D20<BR>> (4 cards) faderworks instances=20
> =3D<BR>>already<BR>loaded so=3D20<BR>> no=20
> hassle=3D3D20<BR>> thereafter...<BR>4. If you =
>make a=20
> =3D<BR>>list with=3D20<BR>> plugins and latencies=20
> (64<BR>=3D3D<BR>>for now=3D3D20<BR>> is=20
> =3D<BR>>more=3D20<BR>> than<BR>enouph) these will be =
>remembered=20
> with every =3D<BR>>new=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
> project.<BR>Just remember to have the button in the =
>OFF=3D20<BR>> =20
> state.<BR>5. =3D3D<BR>>Even =
>if=3D3D20<BR>> you use=20
> FFX4 =3D<BR>>and/or=3D20<BR>> chainer or other wrpper on =
>other=20
> slots=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>will=3D3D20<BR>> =
>do whatever=20
> is =3D<BR>>asked to=3D20<BR>> do.<BR>6 HERE IS HOW =
>IT=20
> ACTUALLY=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>WORKS:<BR>The<BR>=3D3D<BR>>default=3D3D20<BR>&=
>gt; =20
> status of =3D<BR>>the plugin=3D20<BR>> is to ignore =
>the latency=20
> status for=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>the<BR>track=3D3D20<BR>> you =
>are putting=20
> the=3D20<BR>> plugin.<BR>For =
>instance.<BR><BR>A. You=20
> put a=3D20<BR>> =20
> waves<BR>=3D3D<BR>>renvox=3D3D20<BR>> on =
>track 1 on=20
> slot two =3D<BR>>either=3D20<BR>> standalone or =
>from<BR>withing=20
> the FFX4 =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>or=3D3D20<BR>> =
>=3D20<BR>> =20
> chainer...<BR>Now the actual latency this plugin introduces=20
> is=3D20<BR>> 64=3D3D20<BR>> =
>samples.<BR>That MEANS=20
> that all other =3D<BR>>Paris audio=3D20<BR>> tracks are 64 =
>
> =3D3D<BR>>samples ahead=3D3D20<BR>> of=20
> =3D<BR>>track<BR>1 or=3D20<BR>> if you like ,track 1 =
>is 64=20
> sample latent.<BR>NOW =
>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>having=3D20<BR>> =20
> in=3D3D20<BR>> mind that you have put Faderworks on =
>every track=20
> =3D<BR>>then BY=3D20<BR>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>JUST<BR>pushing=20
> the=3D3D20<BR>> ON button =3D<BR>>track 1 of=20
> the=3D20<BR>> Waves renvox preset then=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>Faderworks<BR>DELAYS<BR>=3D3D<BR>>all=3D3D20<BR&g=
>t;> =20
> other =3D<BR>>Paris audio=3D20<BR>> tracks by 64 samples =
>LEAVING=20
> intact the =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>audio<BR>track =
>1=3D20<BR>> =20
> for=3D3D20<BR>> which faderworks ignores the=20
> =3D<BR>>latency.<BR>OVERALL=3D20<BR>> latency is=20
> displayed<BR>=3D3D<BR>>on =
>every=3D3D20<BR>> track=20
> =3D<BR>>too=3D20<BR>> !!<BR>It even substract =
>latency=20
> !!!!<BR>So by putting a=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>waves=3D3D20<BR>> rencomp (64 =
>samples) on track=20
> 2 =3D<BR>>that does NOT=3D20<BR>> mean<BR>that=20
> faderworks<BR>=3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20<BR>> =
>
> =3D<BR>>delay all=3D20<BR>> others again by 64 samples !! =
>, thus=20
> overall<BR>latency=3D20<BR>> =20
> WILL<BR>=3D3D<BR>>REMAIN=3D3D20<BR>> at =
>64 samples,=20
> ONLY track =3D<BR>>2 which was=3D20<BR>> already 64=20
> samples<BR>latent =3D3D<BR>>because=20
> =3D<BR>>of=3D3D20<BR>> track=3D20<BR>> 1 =
>now faderworks=20
> just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples<BR>for this=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>track=3D3D20<BR>> =
>!!<BR><BR>Anyone=20
> =3D<BR>>understood what I=3D20<BR>> typed in here =
>?=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>:)<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios=3D3D20<BR&g=
>t;>=20
> =3D20<BR>> <BR><BR>eff H =
><<A=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com&l=
>t;/A>>=3D3D20'>mailto=3D<BR>>:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoove=
>r@excite.com</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>&g=3D<BR>>t; =
>
> =3D20<BR>> =
>wrote:<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>>How=20
> does this =3D<BR>><BR>> function with=20
> =3D3D<BR>>plugins=3D3D20<BR>> inside a =
>wrapper,=20
> =3D<BR>>for example=3D20<BR>> <BR>>autotune =
>wrapped=20
> inside=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>FFX4?<BR>><BR>>JH<BR>><BR>>=
>;wrote:<=3D<BR>>BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> I tried the =3D3D<BR>>beta1=3D3D20<BR>> and it =
>
> is=3D20<BR>> marvelous.<BR>>> It holds 64 presets =
>with=20
> latencies so=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>you=20
> can=3D3D20<BR>> just click the on=3D20<BR>> =20
> button<BR>anytime<BR>>> you load=20
> =3D<BR>>the=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
>plugin...<BR>>>=20
> Regards,<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D=
>20<BR>> =20
> size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
>fight=20
> =3D<BR>>spam,=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=
>=3D3D20<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.po=
>lesoft.com/refer=3D<BR>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">ht=
>tp://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>.html&=
>lt;/A> =20
> =3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>&=
>gt;<BR>><BR></=3D<BR>>BLOCKQUOTE></BODY><=
>;/HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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