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Fri, 22 September 2006 01:13  |
Tom Bruhl
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Whenever I import a project from another computer that
was running Win 98, I have distortion on track five
of Submix 1. Always. Can't stop it with trim, fader
or anything. It just breaks up badly. If I move the audio
to another track it's fine.
Tonight I was doing quick ruff mixes and I was hearing
what sounded exactly like clocking issues. I only heard
it once while tracking for five hours. On playback/mixdown
it was 5-10 times per song! I switched to internal clock,
different clock rate, unplugged the Lucid... no go, kept
hearing those annoying clicks. After an hour of rebooting to
start the clocking correctly (in all fashions) I decided to start
soloing tracks. It turns out to be the bass track 'clicking'.
I moved it to another channel on the submix I wanted and the clicking
went away. It was on channel 6 this time though?!?
Oddly enough, on playback of the mixes from CD I don't hear any
of the clicking! I did mix all the songs with it since they were ruffs
to determine which tracks to keep. All the while I was dreading having
to tell an 11 piece band to come back on my dime.
Paris feature? Ahh, who cares!
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Whenever I import a project from =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>was running Win 98, I have distortion =
on track=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of Submix 1. Always. Can't =
stop it with=20
trim, fader</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>or anything. It just breaks up =
badly. =20
If I move the audio</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to another track it's =
fine.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tonight I was doing quick ruff mixes =
and I was=20
hearing</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>what sounded exactly like clocking =
issues. I=20
only heard</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>it once while tracking for five =
hours. On=20
playback/mixdown</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>it was 5-10 times per song! I =
switched to=20
internal clock,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>different clock rate, unplugged the =
Lucid... no go,=20
kept</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hearing those annoying clicks. =
After an hour=20
of rebooting to</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>start the clocking correctly (in all =
fashions) I=20
decided to start</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>soloing tracks. It turns out to =
be the bass=20
track 'clicking'.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I moved it to another channel on the =
submix I=20
wanted and the clicking</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>went away. It was on channel 6 =
this time=20
though?!?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oddly enough, on playback of the mixes =
from CD I=20
don't hear any</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of the clicking! I did mix all =
the songs with=20
it since they were ruffs</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to determine which tracks to =
keep. All the=20
while I was dreading having</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to tell an 11 piece band to come back =
on my=20
dime.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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cares!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
and=20
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| Re: Feature since Paris with XP [message #72895 is a reply to message #72892] |
Fri, 22 September 2006 04:05  |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
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Is it possible you have heat issues or power supply issues? Open the case
and throw a fan on it. How many eds cards do you have. What's your setup?
If you say it works great in win98 that doesn't sound like an 8in hardware
issue.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Whenever I import a project from another computer that
>was running Win 98, I have distortion on track five
>of Submix 1. Always. Can't stop it with trim, fader
>or anything. It just breaks up badly. If I move the audio
>to another track it's fine.
>
>Tonight I was doing quick ruff mixes and I was hearing
>what sounded exactly like clocking issues. I only heard
>it once while tracking for five hours. On playback/mixdown
>it was 5-10 times per song! I switched to internal clock,
>different clock rate, unplugged the Lucid... no go, kept
>hearing those annoying clicks. After an hour of rebooting to
>start the clocking correctly (in all fashions) I decided to start
>soloing tracks. It turns out to be the bass track 'clicking'.
>I moved it to another channel on the submix I wanted and the clicking
>went away. It was on channel 6 this time though?!?
>
>Oddly enough, on playback of the mixes from CD I don't hear any
>of the clicking! I did mix all the songs with it since they were ruffs
>to determine which tracks to keep. All the while I was dreading having
>to tell an 11 piece band to come back on my dime.
>
>Paris feature? Ahh, who cares!
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Whenever I import a project from =
>another computer=20
>that</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>was running Win 98, I have distortion =
>on track=20
>five</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of Submix 1. Always. Can't =
>stop it with=20
>trim, fader</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>or anything. It just breaks up =
>badly. =20
>If I move the audio</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to another track it's =
>fine.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tonight I was doing quick ruff mixes =
>and I was=20
>hearing</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>what sounded exactly like clocking =
>issues. I=20
>only heard</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>it once while tracking for five =
>hours. On=20
>playback/mixdown</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>it was 5-10 times per song! I =
>switched to=20
>internal clock,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>different clock rate, unplugged the =
>Lucid... no go,=20
>kept</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hearing those annoying clicks. =
>After an hour=20
>of rebooting to</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>start the clocking correctly (in all =
>fashions) I=20
>decided to start</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>soloing tracks. It turns out to =
>be the bass=20
>track 'clicking'.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I moved it to another channel on the =
>submix I=20
>wanted and the clicking</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>went away. It was on channel 6 =
>this time=20
>though?!?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oddly enough, on playback of the mixes
=
>from CD I=20
>don't hear any</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of the clicking! I did mix all =
>the songs with=20
>it since they were ruffs</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to determine which tracks to =
>keep. All the=20
>while I was dreading having</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to tell an 11 piece band to come back =
>on my=20
>dime.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris feature? Ahh, who =
>cares!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>and=20
>you?<BR><A=20
>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
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| Re: Feature since Paris with XP [message #72908 is a reply to message #72895] |
Fri, 22 September 2006 09:46 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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John,
I have 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma with the traditional fan running good
and hard. I'm not sure what you mean about the 8 in hardware.
What are you saying? =20
You bring to mind that maybe it's an EDS card? I'll try switching in
the Group Master and see if the problem goes away. Thanks for
that tip.
Tom
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4513c378$1@linux...
Is it possible you have heat issues or power supply issues? Open the =
case
and throw a fan on it. How many eds cards do you have. What's your =
setup?
If you say it works great in win98 that doesn't sound like an 8in =
hardware
issue.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Whenever I import a project from another computer that
>was running Win 98, I have distortion on track five
>of Submix 1. Always. Can't stop it with trim, fader
>or anything. It just breaks up badly. If I move the audio
>to another track it's fine.
>
>Tonight I was doing quick ruff mixes and I was hearing
>what sounded exactly like clocking issues. I only heard
>it once while tracking for five hours. On playback/mixdown
>it was 5-10 times per song! I switched to internal clock,
>different clock rate, unplugged the Lucid... no go, kept
>hearing those annoying clicks. After an hour of rebooting to
>start the clocking correctly (in all fashions) I decided to start
>soloing tracks. It turns out to be the bass track 'clicking'.
>I moved it to another channel on the submix I wanted and the clicking
>went away. It was on channel 6 this time though?!?
>
>Oddly enough, on playback of the mixes from CD I don't hear any
>of the clicking! I did mix all the songs with it since they were =
ruffs
>to determine which tracks to keep. All the while I was dreading =
having
>to tell an 11 piece band to come back on my dime.
>
>Paris feature? Ahh, who cares!
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Whenever I import a project from =
=3D
>another computer=3D20
>that</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>was running Win 98, I have =
distortion =3D
>on track=3D20
>five</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>of Submix 1. Always. Can't =3D
>stop it with=3D20
>trim, fader</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>or anything. It just breaks up =
=3D
>badly. =3D20
>If I move the audio</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>to another track it's =3D
>fine.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tonight I was doing quick ruff =
mixes =3D
>and I was=3D20
>hearing</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>what sounded exactly like =
clocking =3D
>issues. I=3D20
>only heard</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>it once while tracking for five =
=3D
>hours. On=3D20
>playback/mixdown</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>it was 5-10 times per song! I =
=3D
>switched to=3D20
>internal clock,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>different clock rate, unplugged =
the =3D
>Lucid... no go,=3D20
>kept</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>hearing those annoying clicks. =
=3D
>After an hour=3D20
>of rebooting to</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>start the clocking correctly (in =
all =3D
>fashions) I=3D20
>decided to start</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>soloing tracks. It turns out to =
=3D
>be the bass=3D20
>track 'clicking'.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I moved it to another channel on =
the =3D
>submix I=3D20
>wanted and the clicking</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>went away. It was on channel 6 =
=3D
>this time=3D20
>though?!?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Oddly enough, on playback of the =
mixes
=3D
>from CD I=3D20
>don't hear any</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>of the clicking! I did mix all =
=3D
>the songs with=3D20
>it since they were ruffs</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>to determine which tracks to =3D
>keep. All the=3D20
>while I was dreading having</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>to tell an 11 piece band to come =
back =3D
>on my=3D20
>dime.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Paris feature? Ahh, who =3D
>cares!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, =3D
>and=3D20
>you?<BR><A=3D20
=
>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma with =
the=20
traditional fan running good</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and hard. I'm not sure what you =
mean about=20
the 8 in hardware.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What are you saying? =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You bring to mind that maybe it's an =
EDS=20
card? I'll try switching in</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the Group Master and see if the problem =
goes=20
away. Thanks for</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that tip.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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in message=20
<A =
href=3D"news:4513c378$1@linux">news:4513c378$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Is =
it=20
possible you have heat issues or power supply issues? Open the=20
case<BR>and throw a fan on it. How many eds cards do you =
have. =20
What's your setup?<BR> If you say it works great in win98 that =
doesn't=20
sound like an 8in hardware<BR>issue.<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Whenever I import a project from another =
computer that<BR>>was running Win 98, I have distortion on track=20
five<BR>>of Submix 1. Always. Can't stop it with trim,=20
fader<BR>>or anything. It just breaks up badly. If I =
move the=20
audio<BR>>to another track it's fine.<BR>><BR>>Tonight I was =
doing=20
quick ruff mixes and I was hearing<BR>>what sounded exactly like =
clocking=20
issues. I only heard<BR>>it once while tracking for five =
hours. =20
On playback/mixdown<BR>>it was 5-10 times per song! I =
switched to=20
internal clock,<BR>>different clock rate, unplugged the Lucid... no =
go,=20
kept<BR>>hearing those annoying clicks. After an hour of =
rebooting=20
to<BR>>start the clocking correctly (in all fashions) I decided to=20
start<BR>>soloing tracks. It turns out to be the bass track=20
'clicking'.<BR>>I moved it to another channel on the submix I =
wanted and=20
the clicking<BR>>went away. It was on channel 6 this time=20
though?!?<BR>><BR>>Oddly enough, on playback of the mixes from =
CD I=20
don't hear any<BR>>of the clicking! I did mix all the songs =
with it=20
since they were ruffs<BR>>to determine which tracks to keep. =
All the=20
while I was dreading having<BR>>to tell an 11 piece band to come =
back on my=20
dime.<BR>><BR>>Paris feature? Ahh, who=20
cares!<BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, and=20
you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
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no=20
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go,=3D20<BR>>kept</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT =
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=3D<BR>>After=20
an hour=3D20<BR>>of rebooting=20
to</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
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face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Oddly enough, on playback of the=20
mixes<BR>=3D<BR>>from CD I=3D20<BR>>don't hear=20
any</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>of the clicking! I did mix all =3D<BR>>the =
songs=20
with=3D20<BR>>it since they were=20
ruffs</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>to determine which tracks to =3D<BR>>keep. All=20
the=3D20<BR>>while I was dreading=20
having</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>to tell an 11 piece band to come back =3D<BR>>on=20
=
my=3D20<BR>>dime.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Paris feature? Ahh, who=20
=3D<BR>>cares!</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam,=20
=
=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20 <BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>=3D<BR>>.html</A> =20
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</FONT></DIV></BODY&g t;</HTML> <BR>><BR>><BR></=
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