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Paris Convertors / Word Clock Generator [message #85866] |
Sun, 03 June 2007 13:32 |
Simon
Messages: 8 Registered: May 2007
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Hello all,
Two questions for you:
Because I never had the opportunity to A/B the Paris AD convertors against
more modern convertors like MOTU or RME I'm wondering how good they standing
the test in 2007. Does anybody know if I am missing something with old Paris
convertors, if so, what's the difference, beside of 96/24...
I remember one year ago, some people had success with an external word clock
generator on a cheap called "Hosa WDC-427 word clock generator". Does it
really improve the sound in tracking and mixing? What are the experiences
of the people who used or still using it?
Thanks
Simon
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Re: Paris Convertors / Word Clock Generator [message #85870 is a reply to message #85867] |
Sun, 03 June 2007 14:00 |
Simon
Messages: 8 Registered: May 2007
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Thanks DJ
how would you describe this improvment with your word clock?
how is a brown sound? I mean, does a RME has a more whitish sound then? More
clean? Transparent?
Let the verbs slamming festival begin!
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:466326f1$1@linux...
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> "Simon" <simon@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4663256a$1@linux...
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>> Hello all,
>>
>> Two questions for you:
>>
>> Because I never had the opportunity to A/B the Paris AD convertors
>> against
>> more modern convertors like MOTU or RME I'm wondering how good they
>> standing
>> the test in 2007. Does anybody know if I am missing something with old
>> Paris
>> convertors, if so, what's the difference, beside of 96/24...
>>
>> I remember one year ago, some people had success with an external word
>> clock
>> generator on a cheap called "Hosa WDC-427 word clock generator". Does it
>> really improve the sound in tracking and mixing? What are the experiences
>> of the people who used or still using it?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Simon
>>
>
> The Paris converters definitely stand toe-to-toe with RME converters IMO
> and I used both side by side for quite a while. The Paris converter has a
> bit of a "brown sound" in comparison, but I personally like this sound. I
> would definitely advise clocking your Paris system with an external
> converter. I have not tried the Hosa clock, but I have used a Lucid GenX 6
> and it made an audible improvement, IMO.
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Re: Paris Convertors / Word Clock Generator [message #85871 is a reply to message #85870] |
Sun, 03 June 2007 14:03 |
Simon
Messages: 8 Registered: May 2007
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....ahhmmm... I mean adjective slamming festival...
"Simon" <hexagometer@gmx.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:46632ccd@linux...
> Thanks DJ
>
> how would you describe this improvment with your word clock?
>
> how is a brown sound? I mean, does a RME has a more whitish sound then?
> More clean? Transparent?
> Let the verbs slamming festival begin!
>
>
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:466326f1$1@linux...
>>
>> "Simon" <simon@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4663256a$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Two questions for you:
>>>
>>> Because I never had the opportunity to A/B the Paris AD convertors
>>> against
>>> more modern convertors like MOTU or RME I'm wondering how good they
>>> standing
>>> the test in 2007. Does anybody know if I am missing something with old
>>> Paris
>>> convertors, if so, what's the difference, beside of 96/24...
>>>
>>> I remember one year ago, some people had success with an external word
>>> clock
>>> generator on a cheap called "Hosa WDC-427 word clock generator". Does it
>>> really improve the sound in tracking and mixing? What are the
>>> experiences
>>> of the people who used or still using it?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Simon
>>>
>>
>> The Paris converters definitely stand toe-to-toe with RME converters IMO
>> and I used both side by side for quite a while. The Paris converter has a
>> bit of a "brown sound" in comparison, but I personally like this sound. I
>> would definitely advise clocking your Paris system with an external
>> converter. I have not tried the Hosa clock, but I have used a Lucid GenX
>> 6 and it made an audible improvement, IMO.
>>
>
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Re: Paris Convertors / Word Clock Generator [message #85872 is a reply to message #85870] |
Sun, 03 June 2007 14:02 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292 Registered: January 2007
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"Simon" <hexagometer@gmx.net> wrote in message news:46632ccd@linux...
> Thanks DJ
>
> how would you describe this improvment with your word clock?
More accurate/less smeared
>
> how is a brown sound? I mean, does a RME has a more whitish sound then?
> More clean? Transparent?
Yes. There is a bit of a darker timbre to the Paris converters to my ears.
> Let the verbs slamming festival begin!
>
If I were going to build another Paris rig, It would have 3 x MECs running
Win XP. Each MEC would have a Paris A8it and A8oT and an ADAT card. I would
have at least one RME ADI-8 converter and maybe an older Mytek 8 channel
AD/DA interfacing with the ADAT modules.
Deej
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> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:466326f1$1@linux...
>>
>> "Simon" <simon@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4663256a$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Two questions for you:
>>>
>>> Because I never had the opportunity to A/B the Paris AD convertors
>>> against
>>> more modern convertors like MOTU or RME I'm wondering how good they
>>> standing
>>> the test in 2007. Does anybody know if I am missing something with old
>>> Paris
>>> convertors, if so, what's the difference, beside of 96/24...
>>>
>>> I remember one year ago, some people had success with an external word
>>> clock
>>> generator on a cheap called "Hosa WDC-427 word clock generator". Does it
>>> really improve the sound in tracking and mixing? What are the
>>> experiences
>>> of the people who used or still using it?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Simon
>>>
>>
>> The Paris converters definitely stand toe-to-toe with RME converters IMO
>> and I used both side by side for quite a while. The Paris converter has a
>> bit of a "brown sound" in comparison, but I personally like this sound. I
>> would definitely advise clocking your Paris system with an external
>> converter. I have not tried the Hosa clock, but I have used a Lucid GenX
>> 6 and it made an audible improvement, IMO.
>>
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Re: Paris Convertors / Word Clock Generator [message #85876 is a reply to message #85872] |
Sun, 03 June 2007 15:00 |
Cujjo
Messages: 325 Registered: June 2007
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Oh no, so DJ, using the ADAT card I can use an RME or Mytek with Paris?
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
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>"Simon" <hexagometer@gmx.net> wrote in message news:46632ccd@linux...
>> Thanks DJ
>>
>> how would you describe this improvment with your word clock?
>
>More accurate/less smeared
>
>>
>> how is a brown sound? I mean, does a RME has a more whitish sound then?
>> More clean? Transparent?
>
>Yes. There is a bit of a darker timbre to the Paris converters to my ears.
>
>> Let the verbs slamming festival begin!
>>
>
>If I were going to build another Paris rig, It would have 3 x MECs running
>Win XP. Each MEC would have a Paris A8it and A8oT and an ADAT card. I would
>have at least one RME ADI-8 converter and maybe an older Mytek 8 channel
>AD/DA interfacing with the ADAT modules.
>
>Deej
>
>
>>
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>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> news:466326f1$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "Simon" <simon@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4663256a$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> Two questions for you:
>>>>
>>>> Because I never had the opportunity to A/B the Paris AD convertors
>>>> against
>>>> more modern convertors like MOTU or RME I'm wondering how good they
>>>> standing
>>>> the test in 2007. Does anybody know if I am missing something with old
>>>> Paris
>>>> convertors, if so, what's the difference, beside of 96/24...
>>>>
>>>> I remember one year ago, some people had success with an external word
>>>> clock
>>>> generator on a cheap called "Hosa WDC-427 word clock generator". Does
it
>>>> really improve the sound in tracking and mixing? What are the
>>>> experiences
>>>> of the people who used or still using it?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>
>>> The Paris converters definitely stand toe-to-toe with RME converters
IMO
>>> and I used both side by side for quite a while. The Paris converter has
a
>>> bit of a "brown sound" in comparison, but I personally like this sound.
I
>>> would definitely advise clocking your Paris system with an external
>>> converter. I have not tried the Hosa clock, but I have used a Lucid GenX
>>> 6 and it made an audible improvement, IMO.
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Paris Convertors / Word Clock Generator [message #85878 is a reply to message #85876] |
Sun, 03 June 2007 15:19 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292 Registered: January 2007
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Senior Member |
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All you will need to do is to use the external converter as the master clock
for Paris. You can distribute it using a Lucid CLK-6 or a GenX-6 if you're
running multiple MECs.
If you usually track at 24 but, just set your project to 24 bit and go for
it. The Paris ADAT module only passes 20 bit, but until you start getting
into *very* expensive converters, it's very unlikely that you will be
achieving even 20 "true" bits with the Paris, RME or Mytek converters
anyway.
Deej
"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:466339f7$1@linux...
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> Oh no, so DJ, using the ADAT card I can use an RME or Mytek with Paris?
>
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Simon" <hexagometer@gmx.net> wrote in message news:46632ccd@linux...
>>> Thanks DJ
>>>
>>> how would you describe this improvment with your word clock?
>>
>>More accurate/less smeared
>>
>>>
>>> how is a brown sound? I mean, does a RME has a more whitish sound then?
>
>>> More clean? Transparent?
>>
>>Yes. There is a bit of a darker timbre to the Paris converters to my ears.
>>
>>> Let the verbs slamming festival begin!
>>>
>>
>>If I were going to build another Paris rig, It would have 3 x MECs running
>
>>Win XP. Each MEC would have a Paris A8it and A8oT and an ADAT card. I
>>would
>
>>have at least one RME ADI-8 converter and maybe an older Mytek 8 channel
>
>>AD/DA interfacing with the ADAT modules.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>>> news:466326f1$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> "Simon" <simon@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4663256a$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Two questions for you:
>>>>>
>>>>> Because I never had the opportunity to A/B the Paris AD convertors
>>>>> against
>>>>> more modern convertors like MOTU or RME I'm wondering how good they
>
>>>>> standing
>>>>> the test in 2007. Does anybody know if I am missing something with old
>
>>>>> Paris
>>>>> convertors, if so, what's the difference, beside of 96/24...
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember one year ago, some people had success with an external word
>
>>>>> clock
>>>>> generator on a cheap called "Hosa WDC-427 word clock generator". Does
> it
>>>>> really improve the sound in tracking and mixing? What are the
>>>>> experiences
>>>>> of the people who used or still using it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Simon
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Paris converters definitely stand toe-to-toe with RME converters
> IMO
>>>> and I used both side by side for quite a while. The Paris converter has
> a
>>>> bit of a "brown sound" in comparison, but I personally like this sound.
> I
>>>> would definitely advise clocking your Paris system with an external
>>>> converter. I have not tried the Hosa clock, but I have used a Lucid
>>>> GenX
>
>>>> 6 and it made an audible improvement, IMO.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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