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| Re: Paris and Virtual Machines [message #77705 is a reply to message #77699] |
Sun, 31 December 2006 17:07   |
Paul Artola
Messages: 161
Registered: November 2005
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Actually, I am considering both the VM and VPN solutions. Basically, I
want to run Paris on a WindowsME box but have dual 22" widescreen
(1680x1050@60Hz) displays. The mofo of this whole situation is that
collection of parameters leads to the old pick 2 of 3 choice of:
1. Support for 1680x1050@60Hz;
2. AGP card;
3. WindowsME drivers.
What really got me wondering about the VM solution is my Muse Receptor
- a linux computer running a Windows virtually to play VST and VSTi.
The Windows VM can see the audio hardware in the box, and all this is
running extremely efficiently and with no (essentially) latency.
Like so many here, I am not ready to cash in my Paris chips, but I am
hanging on by the fingernails!
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 16:48:20 -0600, "Aaron Allen"
<know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>We might be discussing two different things.. you're talking about Virtual
>Private Networking, and Paul is talking about a Virtual Machine installation
>(basically, an OS installed inside of another OS for testing purposes that
>share the same computer at the same time)...
>
>AA
>
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:45982837@linux...
>> For rehearsals for my 50th bash I used a laptop loaded with VPN to control
>> Paris in my mixing room via a LAN cable and I have also used a wireless
>> router successfully...the response was a tad sluggish but it was
>> functional.
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:45982117@linux...
>>> haven't tried that but the architecture as I understand it wouldn't allow
>>> VM to run hardware.
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:jo4gp21d421tacgnsmhdj5cmobnrf1inee@4ax.com...
>>>> Has anyone ever tried running Paris inside a virtual machine? I am
>>>> thinking along the lines of running a WindowsME virtual machine inside
>>>> WindowsXP. Would the hardware drivers pass thru?
>>>>
>>>> In a related question, could one use the remote control feature in XP
>>>> to control a WinME/Paris box on the network?
>>>>
>>>> This all gets back to me wanting to run dual 22" widescreen monitors
>>>> with my Paris system, but unable to find the right mix of
>>>> modern/classic hardware and drivers.
>>>>
>>>> - Paul Artola
>>>> Ellicott City, Maryland
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Paris and Virtual Machines [message #77713 is a reply to message #77705] |
Sun, 31 December 2006 18:27 |
JeffH
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
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Paul,
Contgrats on getting the receptor. I remember chatting about that last
spring.
Windows ME doesn't support the RDP protocol out of the box. I have used
TightVNC to control an ME box with XP. You can check it out at
http://www.tightvnc.com/
It's been pretty usable for me. As far as a Virtual Machien, I had a ME
VM inside of Microsofts Virtual PC, but haven't tried it with the
scherzo drivers loaded. Been a while, but I think you still need ME
drivers for the hardware in that product.
Hope this helps,
Hoov
Paul Artola wrote:
> Actually, I am considering both the VM and VPN solutions. Basically, I
> want to run Paris on a WindowsME box but have dual 22" widescreen
> (1680x1050@60Hz) displays. The mofo of this whole situation is that
> collection of parameters leads to the old pick 2 of 3 choice of:
>
> 1. Support for 1680x1050@60Hz;
> 2. AGP card;
> 3. WindowsME drivers.
>
> What really got me wondering about the VM solution is my Muse Receptor
> - a linux computer running a Windows virtually to play VST and VSTi.
> The Windows VM can see the audio hardware in the box, and all this is
> running extremely efficiently and with no (essentially) latency.
>
> Like so many here, I am not ready to cash in my Paris chips, but I am
> hanging on by the fingernails!
>
> - Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
>
> On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 16:48:20 -0600, "Aaron Allen"
> <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>
>>We might be discussing two different things.. you're talking about Virtual
>>Private Networking, and Paul is talking about a Virtual Machine installation
>>(basically, an OS installed inside of another OS for testing purposes that
>>share the same computer at the same time)...
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:45982837@linux...
>>
>>>For rehearsals for my 50th bash I used a laptop loaded with VPN to control
>>>Paris in my mixing room via a LAN cable and I have also used a wireless
>>>router successfully...the response was a tad sluggish but it was
>>>functional.
>>>
>>>Don
>>>
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>news:45982117@linux...
>>>
>>>>haven't tried that but the architecture as I understand it wouldn't allow
>>>>VM to run hardware.
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:jo4gp21d421tacgnsmhdj5cmobnrf1inee@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>>Has anyone ever tried running Paris inside a virtual machine? I am
>>>>>thinking along the lines of running a WindowsME virtual machine inside
>>>>>WindowsXP. Would the hardware drivers pass thru?
>>>>>
>>>>>In a related question, could one use the remote control feature in XP
>>>>>to control a WinME/Paris box on the network?
>>>>>
>>>>>This all gets back to me wanting to run dual 22" widescreen monitors
>>>>>with my Paris system, but unable to find the right mix of
>>>>>modern/classic hardware and drivers.
>>>>>
>>>>>- Paul Artola
>>>>> Ellicott City, Maryland
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
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| Re: Paris and Virtual Machines [message #77756 is a reply to message #77705] |
Mon, 01 January 2007 13:17 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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Paul,
I talked to one of the company reps a few months ago (trying to figure out a
way to bastardize one of these into accepting PCI cards so I could run UAD-1
plugins via lightpipe ;o) and he told me that these were actually running
BEOS.
Cheers,
Deej
"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:k5ngp2pkjviqmdpoq4ad02kb5c0935m6jp@4ax.com...
> Actually, I am considering both the VM and VPN solutions. Basically, I
> want to run Paris on a WindowsME box but have dual 22" widescreen
> (1680x1050@60Hz) displays. The mofo of this whole situation is that
> collection of parameters leads to the old pick 2 of 3 choice of:
>
> 1. Support for 1680x1050@60Hz;
> 2. AGP card;
> 3. WindowsME drivers.
>
> What really got me wondering about the VM solution is my Muse Receptor
> - a linux computer running a Windows virtually to play VST and VSTi.
> The Windows VM can see the audio hardware in the box, and all this is
> running extremely efficiently and with no (essentially) latency.
>
> Like so many here, I am not ready to cash in my Paris chips, but I am
> hanging on by the fingernails!
>
> - Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
>
> On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 16:48:20 -0600, "Aaron Allen"
> <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>>We might be discussing two different things.. you're talking about Virtual
>>Private Networking, and Paul is talking about a Virtual Machine
>>installation
>>(basically, an OS installed inside of another OS for testing purposes that
>>share the same computer at the same time)...
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:45982837@linux...
>>> For rehearsals for my 50th bash I used a laptop loaded with VPN to
>>> control
>>> Paris in my mixing room via a LAN cable and I have also used a wireless
>>> router successfully...the response was a tad sluggish but it was
>>> functional.
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>> news:45982117@linux...
>>>> haven't tried that but the architecture as I understand it wouldn't
>>>> allow
>>>> VM to run hardware.
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:jo4gp21d421tacgnsmhdj5cmobnrf1inee@4ax.com...
>>>>> Has anyone ever tried running Paris inside a virtual machine? I am
>>>>> thinking along the lines of running a WindowsME virtual machine inside
>>>>> WindowsXP. Would the hardware drivers pass thru?
>>>>>
>>>>> In a related question, could one use the remote control feature in XP
>>>>> to control a WinME/Paris box on the network?
>>>>>
>>>>> This all gets back to me wanting to run dual 22" widescreen monitors
>>>>> with my Paris system, but unable to find the right mix of
>>>>> modern/classic hardware and drivers.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Paul Artola
>>>>> Ellicott City, Maryland
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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