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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90281 is a reply to message #90278] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 08:31   |
Chris Ludwig
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Hi Dedric,
Crips that automation features stuff looks amazing.
I hope the freely assignable i/o-effects stuff ends up in C 4.
But hey whats up with the Expansion kit. That parts kinda silly IMHO.
If they were gonna do that then they should make the price lower I think.
Chris
Dedric Terry wrote:
> I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo, but N4
> was just released - shipping in early October:
>
> Highlights:
>
> * New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include the
> ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent of
> automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
> more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was before.
>
> * New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>
> * Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>
> * Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for an
> FX database - also great for post)
>
> * VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is automatic
> adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
> plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>
> * New logical editor looks much more powerful
>
> ....etc...
>
> I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>
> For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands alone
> are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
> well.
>
> Regards,
> Dedric
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90282 is a reply to message #90281] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 08:33 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
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Oh and whats this mean?
Direct X ASIO 64 Bit
Chris Ludwig wrote:
> Hi Dedric,
> Crips that automation features stuff looks amazing.
> I hope the freely assignable i/o-effects stuff ends up in C 4.
> But hey whats up with the Expansion kit. That parts kinda silly IMHO.
> If they were gonna do that then they should make the price lower I think.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Dedric Terry wrote:
>> I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>> but N4
>> was just released - shipping in early October:
>>
>> Highlights:
>>
>> * New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>> the
>> ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent of
>> automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>> more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>> before.
>>
>> * New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>
>> * Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>
>> * Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
>> for an
>> FX database - also great for post)
>>
>> * VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>> automatic
>> adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>> plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>
>> * New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>
>> ....etc...
>>
>> I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>
>> For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>> alone
>> are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>> well.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dedric
>>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90283 is a reply to message #90281] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 08:48 |
DJ
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Does the freely assignable routing mean that the ASIO I/O can be assigned
the same way as in Reaper?
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:46f7db45$1@linux...
> Hi Dedric,
> Crips that automation features stuff looks amazing.
> I hope the freely assignable i/o-effects stuff ends up in C 4.
> But hey whats up with the Expansion kit. That parts kinda silly IMHO.
> If they were gonna do that then they should make the price lower I think.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Dedric Terry wrote:
>> I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo, but
>> N4
>> was just released - shipping in early October:
>>
>> Highlights:
>>
>> * New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>> the
>> ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent of
>> automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>> more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>> before.
>>
>> * New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>
>> * Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>
>> * Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>> an
>> FX database - also great for post)
>>
>> * VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>> automatic
>> adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>> plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>
>> * New logical editor looks much more powerful
>> ....etc...
>>
>> I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>
>> For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>> alone
>> are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>> well.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dedric
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90285 is a reply to message #90281] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 08:58 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
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Automation does look amazing, and word from some beta testers is that it's
over the top of what
post users had asked for - instead of just giving users what they wanted, it
sounds like SB decided to
blow the doors off of it in hopes of gaining more ground in post, even in
large console facilities.
The expansion kit concept was rumored when Cubase 4 was released, but in a
different form. The NEK
idea is to allow post-only users to forgo the score editor and some extra
midi functionality, but for those of
us that do post, composing and sound design, to keep it. It's a bit odd at
first glance, I agree, but after thinking
through the market, it's about as close to making sense as I think a DAW
developer aiming for post and music
markets can be. While a post app really doesn't need midi at all, it's
becoming useful for many areas of that market,
and for sound design/composing, of course its' crucial, but so are some post
features (edit mode for scrubbing events
to picture, automation, etc), so leaving out midi features also wouldn't
make sense.
Regards,
Dedric
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:46f7db45$1@linux...
> Hi Dedric,
> Crips that automation features stuff looks amazing.
> I hope the freely assignable i/o-effects stuff ends up in C 4.
> But hey whats up with the Expansion kit. That parts kinda silly IMHO.
> If they were gonna do that then they should make the price lower I think.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Dedric Terry wrote:
>> I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo, but
>> N4
>> was just released - shipping in early October:
>>
>> Highlights:
>>
>> * New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>> the
>> ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent of
>> automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>> more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>> before.
>>
>> * New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>
>> * Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>
>> * Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>> an
>> FX database - also great for post)
>>
>> * VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>> automatic
>> adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>> plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>
>> * New logical editor looks much more powerful
>> ....etc...
>>
>> I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>
>> For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>> alone
>> are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>> well.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dedric
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90286 is a reply to message #90283] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 09:00 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
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HI DJ,
From the video it looks like any audio, group, fx or VST connection can
be routed to any other. Not sure if it does all the same stuff but I
beet you it i way easier to figure out how to do it. :)
Chris
DJ wrote:
> Does the freely assignable routing mean that the ASIO I/O can be assigned
> the same way as in Reaper?
>
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:46f7db45$1@linux...
>> Hi Dedric,
>> Crips that automation features stuff looks amazing.
>> I hope the freely assignable i/o-effects stuff ends up in C 4.
>> But hey whats up with the Expansion kit. That parts kinda silly IMHO.
>> If they were gonna do that then they should make the price lower I think.
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>> I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo, but
>>> N4
>>> was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>
>>> Highlights:
>>>
>>> * New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>>> the
>>> ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent of
>>> automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>> more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>> before.
>>>
>>> * New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>
>>> * Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>
>>> * Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>>> an
>>> FX database - also great for post)
>>>
>>> * VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>> automatic
>>> adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>> plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>
>>> * New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>> ....etc...
>>>
>>> I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>
>>> For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>>> alone
>>> are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dedric
>>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90287 is a reply to message #90283] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 09:06 |
Dedric Terry
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Any group can send to any other group or fx (no order requirement anymore),
and any fx can assign to any group or fx.
Also, sends can now be post fader (output assignment tab now includes
groups, fx, etc). In addition we can also
route any group, fx, or buss back into an audio track for submix/mixdown.
Nuendo will also detect loop backs and disable
them. Sweet.
Imho, routing sounds like it is just as flexible as Reaper, but not as
confusing to trace as Reaper's is.
Cubase 4.1 is on the way and should include the music production features
(routing, etc) sans post features (don't know how much
of the new automation will make it into C4.1, but some might, if not all).
Regards,
Dedric
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:46f7de07$1@linux...
> Does the freely assignable routing mean that the ASIO I/O can be assigned
> the same way as in Reaper?
>
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:46f7db45$1@linux...
>> Hi Dedric,
>> Crips that automation features stuff looks amazing.
>> I hope the freely assignable i/o-effects stuff ends up in C 4.
>> But hey whats up with the Expansion kit. That parts kinda silly IMHO.
>> If they were gonna do that then they should make the price lower I think.
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>> I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>>> but N4
>>> was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>
>>> Highlights:
>>>
>>> * New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>>> the
>>> ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent of
>>> automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>> more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>> before.
>>>
>>> * New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>
>>> * Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>
>>> * Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>>> an
>>> FX database - also great for post)
>>>
>>> * VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>> automatic
>>> adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>> plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>
>>> * New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>> ....etc...
>>>
>>> I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>
>>> For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>>> alone
>>> are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90288 is a reply to message #90278] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 09:16 |
EK Sound
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Hey Dedric,
Did they dump DX completely?
David.
Dedric Terry wrote:
> I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo, but N4
> was just released - shipping in early October:
>
> Highlights:
>
> * New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include the
> ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent of
> automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
> more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was before.
>
> * New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>
> * Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>
> * Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for an
> FX database - also great for post)
>
> * VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is automatic
> adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
> plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>
> * New logical editor looks much more powerful
>
> ...etc...
>
> I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>
> For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands alone
> are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
> well.
>
> Regards,
> Dedric
>
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90289 is a reply to message #90285] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 09:18 |
Chris Ludwig
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Hi Dedric,
Yes makes sense but they better be clearer on what Nuendo's base MIDI
functionality is.
I would like to see them bundle Halion, Groove Agent and Hypersonic for
free with Cubase personally to give it that "perceived value" to the end
-user thing.
I think kicking up the marketing end now with both Logic 8 and Sonar 7.
Chris
Dedric Terry wrote:
> Automation does look amazing, and word from some beta testers is that
> it's over the top of what
> post users had asked for - instead of just giving users what they
> wanted, it sounds like SB decided to
> blow the doors off of it in hopes of gaining more ground in post, even
> in large console facilities.
>
> The expansion kit concept was rumored when Cubase 4 was released, but in
> a different form. The NEK
> idea is to allow post-only users to forgo the score editor and some
> extra midi functionality, but for those of
> us that do post, composing and sound design, to keep it. It's a bit odd
> at first glance, I agree, but after thinking
> through the market, it's about as close to making sense as I think a DAW
> developer aiming for post and music
> markets can be. While a post app really doesn't need midi at all, it's
> becoming useful for many areas of that market,
> and for sound design/composing, of course its' crucial, but so are some
> post features (edit mode for scrubbing events
> to picture, automation, etc), so leaving out midi features also wouldn't
> make sense.
>
> Regards,
> Dedric
>
>
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:46f7db45$1@linux...
>> Hi Dedric,
>> Crips that automation features stuff looks amazing.
>> I hope the freely assignable i/o-effects stuff ends up in C 4.
>> But hey whats up with the Expansion kit. That parts kinda silly IMHO.
>> If they were gonna do that then they should make the price lower I think.
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>> I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>>> but N4
>>> was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>
>>> Highlights:
>>>
>>> * New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes
>>> include the
>>> ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent of
>>> automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>> more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>> before.
>>>
>>> * New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>
>>> * Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>
>>> * Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
>>> for an
>>> FX database - also great for post)
>>>
>>> * VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>> automatic
>>> adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>> plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>
>>> * New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>> ....etc...
>>>
>>> I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>
>>> For post this is a great release - the new automation and key
>>> commands alone
>>> are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90290 is a reply to message #90288] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 09:23 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
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HI David,
I know they did in Cubase 4. There are now current DX plug ins being
made. Most of the old DX only plug ins either didn't well or had issues
even working on current OS versions. But that was mainly due to those
companies chose pf copy protection. From what I gather by the DX 64 bit
is that there will be a new DX plug in spec based on DX 10. But not
really sure.
Chris
EK Sound wrote:
> Hey Dedric,
>
> Did they dump DX completely?
>
> David.
>
> Dedric Terry wrote:
>> I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>> but N4
>> was just released - shipping in early October:
>>
>> Highlights:
>>
>> * New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>> the
>> ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent of
>> automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>> more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>> before.
>>
>> * New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>
>> * Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>
>> * Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
>> for an
>> FX database - also great for post)
>>
>> * VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>> automatic
>> adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>> plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>
>> * New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>
>> ...etc...
>>
>> I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>
>> For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>> alone
>> are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>> well.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dedric
>>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90291 is a reply to message #90288] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 09:29 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
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DX is no more.
Regards,
Dedric
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:46f7e414$1@linux...
> Hey Dedric,
>
> Did they dump DX completely?
>
> David.
>
> Dedric Terry wrote:
>> I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo, but
>> N4
>> was just released - shipping in early October:
>>
>> Highlights:
>>
>> * New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>> the
>> ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent of
>> automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>> more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>> before.
>>
>> * New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>
>> * Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>
>> * Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>> an
>> FX database - also great for post)
>>
>> * VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>> automatic
>> adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>> plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>
>> * New logical editor looks much more powerful
>> ...etc...
>>
>> I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>
>> For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>> alone
>> are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>> well.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dedric
>>
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90301 is a reply to message #90278] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 11:45 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
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Man!! Looks like Nuendo is Still the king of "WorkFlow". Those new editing
features are in a league of their own..
Vista support, true 64 bit very soon.. They came to play and stay..
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo, but
N4
>was just released - shipping in early October:
>
>Highlights:
>
>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include the
>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent of
>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was before.
>
>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>
>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>
>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
an
>FX database - also great for post)
>
>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is automatic
>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>
>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>
>...etc...
>
>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>
>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands alone
>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>well.
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90303 is a reply to message #90282] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 11:50 |
laMont [1]
Messages: 33
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They had to get back Direct-X too many complaints.. And, since they are working
with vista, dirct-show is back on the table.
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Oh and whats this mean?
>
>Direct X ASIO 64 Bit
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>Chris Ludwig wrote:
>> Hi Dedric,
>> Crips that automation features stuff looks amazing.
>> I hope the freely assignable i/o-effects stuff ends up in C 4.
>> But hey whats up with the Expansion kit. That parts kinda silly IMHO.
>> If they were gonna do that then they should make the price lower I think.
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>> I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>>> but N4
>>> was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>
>>> Highlights:
>>>
>>> * New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>>> the
>>> ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
of
>>> automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>> more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>> before.
>>>
>>> * New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>
>>> * Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>
>>> * Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
>>> for an
>>> FX database - also great for post)
>>>
>>> * VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>> automatic
>>> adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>> plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>
>>> * New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>
>>> ....etc...
>>>
>>> I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>
>>> For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>>> alone
>>> are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me
as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90304 is a reply to message #90278] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 11:54 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
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Iwish they made the interface "perkier" :) The very business like Gothic look
is getting old. still to this day, Paris's Gold -harware like interface is
a joy to look at.
To be fair, I'm not all that knocked out about Logic 8's interface. It must
be a German thing. :)
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo, but
N4
>was just released - shipping in early October:
>
>Highlights:
>
>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include the
>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent of
>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was before.
>
>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>
>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>
>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
an
>FX database - also great for post)
>
>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is automatic
>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>
>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>
>...etc...
>
>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>
>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands alone
>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>well.
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90306 is a reply to message #90304] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 11:54 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
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That would be my guess - a German thing.....
.....hmmm, so what explains ProTools' office cubical grey and spreadsheet
layout? A Silicon valley programmer thing? ;-)
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f807e8$1@linux...
>
> Iwish they made the interface "perkier" :) The very business like Gothic
> look
> is getting old. still to this day, Paris's Gold -harware like interface is
> a joy to look at.
>
> To be fair, I'm not all that knocked out about Logic 8's interface. It
> must
> be a German thing. :)
>
> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo, but
> N4
>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>
>>Highlights:
>>
>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include the
>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent of
>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>before.
>>
>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>
>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>
>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
> an
>>FX database - also great for post)
>>
>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>automatic
>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>
>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>
>>...etc...
>>
>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>
>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>>alone
>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>well.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dedric
>>
>
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90308 is a reply to message #90304] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 12:01 |
rick
Messages: 1976
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if you remember the vw thing than all is explained...tacky but
functional....kind of.
On 25 Sep 2007 04:54:32 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Iwish they made the interface "perkier" :) The very business like Gothic look
>is getting old. still to this day, Paris's Gold -harware like interface is
>a joy to look at.
>
>To be fair, I'm not all that knocked out about Logic 8's interface. It must
>be a German thing. :)
>
>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo, but
>N4
>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>
>>Highlights:
>>
>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include the
>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent of
>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was before.
>>
>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>
>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>
>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>an
>>FX database - also great for post)
>>
>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is automatic
>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>
>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>
>>...etc...
>>
>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>
>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands alone
>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>well.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dedric
>>
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90310 is a reply to message #90306] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 13:10 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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LoL!! Man what gives!! Did SSC have the market cornered on DAW interface graphics
and color?
"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>That would be my guess - a German thing.....
>
>....hmmm, so what explains ProTools' office cubical grey and spreadsheet
>layout? A Silicon valley programmer thing? ;-)
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f807e8$1@linux...
>>
>> Iwish they made the interface "perkier" :) The very business like Gothic
>> look
>> is getting old. still to this day, Paris's Gold -harware like interface
is
>> a joy to look at.
>>
>> To be fair, I'm not all that knocked out about Logic 8's interface. It
>> must
>> be a German thing. :)
>>
>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
but
>> N4
>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>
>>>Highlights:
>>>
>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
the
>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
of
>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>>before.
>>>
>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>
>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>
>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>> an
>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>
>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>>automatic
>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>
>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>
>>>...etc...
>>>
>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>
>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>>>alone
>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>>well.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Dedric
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90311 is a reply to message #90310] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 13:08 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
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Well.... Paris' interface was cool, but it took up quite a bit of space that
would limit functionality in most DAWs today.
I wasn't really into the gold thing personally, but hey, it worked for
Midas. ;-) I gravitate toward blue/greys, so I'm okay with
Nuendo/C4's interfaces.
Dedric
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f8199d$1@linux...
>
> LoL!! Man what gives!! Did SSC have the market cornered on DAW interface
> graphics
> and color?
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>That would be my guess - a German thing.....
>>
>>....hmmm, so what explains ProTools' office cubical grey and spreadsheet
>
>>layout? A Silicon valley programmer thing? ;-)
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f807e8$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Iwish they made the interface "perkier" :) The very business like Gothic
>
>>> look
>>> is getting old. still to this day, Paris's Gold -harware like interface
> is
>>> a joy to look at.
>>>
>>> To be fair, I'm not all that knocked out about Logic 8's interface. It
>
>>> must
>>> be a German thing. :)
>>>
>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
> but
>>> N4
>>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>
>>>>Highlights:
>>>>
>>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
> the
>>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
> of
>>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>>>before.
>>>>
>>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>
>>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>
>>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>>> an
>>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>>
>>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>>>automatic
>>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>
>>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>
>>>>...etc...
>>>>
>>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>
>>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>
>>>>alone
>>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>>>well.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Dedric
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90312 is a reply to message #90301] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 13:20 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
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What happened to all the Steinberg doom and gloom?? ;-)
David.
LaMont wrote:
> Man!! Looks like Nuendo is Still the king of "WorkFlow". Those new editing
> features are in a league of their own..
>
> Vista support, true 64 bit very soon.. They came to play and stay..
>
>
>
> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>
>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo, but
>
> N4
>
>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>
>>Highlights:
>>
>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include the
>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent of
>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was before.
>>
>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>
>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>
>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>
> an
>
>>FX database - also great for post)
>>
>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is automatic
>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>
>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>
>>...etc...
>>
>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>
>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands alone
>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>well.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dedric
>>
>
>
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90318 is a reply to message #90312] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 15:03 |
laMont [1]
Messages: 33
Registered: September 2007
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Hey Dave, okay okay.. You were right..BUT, what about Yamaha's offerings for
all of this power. I'm sure they don;t want Euphonix to get all of the DAW
controller glory?
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>What happened to all the Steinberg doom and gloom?? ;-)
>
>David.
>
>LaMont wrote:
>> Man!! Looks like Nuendo is Still the king of "WorkFlow". Those new editing
>> features are in a league of their own..
>>
>> Vista support, true 64 bit very soon.. They came to play and stay..
>>
>>
>>
>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>
>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
but
>>
>> N4
>>
>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>
>>>Highlights:
>>>
>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
the
>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
of
>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was before.
>>>
>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>
>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>
>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>>
>> an
>>
>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>
>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is automatic
>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>
>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>
>>>...etc...
>>>
>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>
>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
alone
>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>>well.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Dedric
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90320 is a reply to message #90318] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 15:11 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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Patience... ;-)
Daveid.
LaMont wrote:
> Hey Dave, okay okay.. You were right..BUT, what about Yamaha's offerings for
> all of this power. I'm sure they don;t want Euphonix to get all of the DAW
> controller glory?
>
>
> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>What happened to all the Steinberg doom and gloom?? ;-)
>>
>>David.
>>
>>LaMont wrote:
>>
>>>Man!! Looks like Nuendo is Still the king of "WorkFlow". Those new editing
>>>features are in a league of their own..
>>>
>>>Vista support, true 64 bit very soon.. They came to play and stay..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>
> but
>
>>>N4
>>>
>>>
>>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>
>>>>Highlights:
>>>>
>>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>
> the
>
>>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>
> of
>
>>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was before.
>>>>
>>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>
>>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>
>>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>>>
>>>an
>>>
>>>
>>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>>
>>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is automatic
>>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>
>>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>
>>>>...etc...
>>>>
>>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>
>>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>
> alone
>
>>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>>>well.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Dedric
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90321 is a reply to message #90320] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 15:36 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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David....care to expound on that hint, on or offline? ;-)
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:46f8375e@linux...
> Patience... ;-)
>
> Daveid.
>
> LaMont wrote:
>> Hey Dave, okay okay.. You were right..BUT, what about Yamaha's offerings
>> for
>> all of this power. I'm sure they don;t want Euphonix to get all of the
>> DAW
>> controller glory?
>>
>>
>> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>What happened to all the Steinberg doom and gloom?? ;-)
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>
>>>>Man!! Looks like Nuendo is Still the king of "WorkFlow". Those new
>>>>editing
>>>>features are in a league of their own..
>>>>
>>>>Vista support, true 64 bit very soon.. They came to play and stay..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>>
>> but
>>
>>>>N4
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>>
>>>>>Highlights:
>>>>>
>>>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>>
>> the
>>
>>>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>>
>> of
>>
>>>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and
>>>>>much
>>>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>>>>before.
>>>>>
>>>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>>
>>>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
>>>>>for
>>>>
>>>>an
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>>>>automatic
>>>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now
>>>>>VST3
>>>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>>
>>>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>>
>>>>>...etc...
>>>>>
>>>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>>
>>>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>>
>> alone
>>
>>>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>>>>well.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90323 is a reply to message #90318] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 16:01 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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Senior Member |
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Hi Lamont,
Yamaha Commercial Audio and Yamaha Pro Audio are almost completely
separate machines.
I kinda wish to some extent that CA got put in charge of Steinberg
instead of Pro Audio. At least for the Nuendo part.
Can't wait to get hold N4 to see if Vista is more then just a bad joke.
Chris
LaMont wrote:
> Hey Dave, okay okay.. You were right..BUT, what about Yamaha's offerings for
> all of this power. I'm sure they don;t want Euphonix to get all of the DAW
> controller glory?
>
>
> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>> What happened to all the Steinberg doom and gloom?? ;-)
>>
>> David.
>>
>> LaMont wrote:
>>> Man!! Looks like Nuendo is Still the king of "WorkFlow". Those new editing
>>> features are in a league of their own..
>>>
>>> Vista support, true 64 bit very soon.. They came to play and stay..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
> but
>>> N4
>>>
>>>> was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>
>>>> Highlights:
>>>>
>>>> * New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
> the
>>>> ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
> of
>>>> automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>>> more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was before.
>>>>
>>>> * New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>
>>>> * Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>
>>>> * Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>>> an
>>>
>>>> FX database - also great for post)
>>>>
>>>> * VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is automatic
>>>> adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>>> plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>
>>>> * New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>
>>>> ...etc...
>>>>
>>>> I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>
>>>> For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
> alone
>>>> are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dedric
>>>>
>>>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90325 is a reply to message #90323] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 17:06 |
audioguy_editout_
Messages: 249
Registered: December 2005
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Senior Member |
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Amen...
David.
Chris Ludwig wrote:
> Hi Lamont,
> Yamaha Commercial Audio and Yamaha Pro Audio are almost completely
> separate machines.
> I kinda wish to some extent that CA got put in charge of Steinberg
> instead of Pro Audio. At least for the Nuendo part.
>
> Can't wait to get hold N4 to see if Vista is more then just a bad joke.
> Chris
>
>
>
> LaMont wrote:
>
>> Hey Dave, okay okay.. You were right..BUT, what about Yamaha's
>> offerings for
>> all of this power. I'm sure they don;t want Euphonix to get all of the
>> DAW
>> controller glory?
>>
>>
>> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What happened to all the Steinberg doom and gloom?? ;-)
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>
>>>> Man!! Looks like Nuendo is Still the king of "WorkFlow". Those new
>>>> editing
>>>> features are in a league of their own..
>>>>
>>>> Vista support, true 64 bit very soon.. They came to play and stay..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>>
>> but
>>
>>>> N4
>>>>
>>>>> was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>>
>>>>> Highlights:
>>>>>
>>>>> * New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>>
>> the
>>
>>>>> ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>>
>> of
>>
>>>>> automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and
>>>>> much
>>>>> more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>>>> before.
>>>>>
>>>>> * New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>> * Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>>
>>>>> * Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite
>>>>> well for
>>>>
>>>> an
>>>>
>>>>> FX database - also great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>> * VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>>>> automatic
>>>>> adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now
>>>>> VST3
>>>>> plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>>
>>>>> * New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>>
>>>>> ...etc...
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>>
>>>>> For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>>
>> alone
>>
>>>>> are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for
>>>>> me as
>>>>> well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90326 is a reply to message #90310] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 18:21 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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I forget which trade show it was, but at one of the ones I went to in the
go-go 90's when I was an audio writer I stopped by the E-mu booth (the Ensoniq
sale was still pretty recent) to talk to SSC and Edmund. Brian T was there
and it was all a big happy family. We all thought then that E-mu would be
a great thing for the platform, some extra cash, a little more stability
in the business relationship, a high profile name with more space in retail
stores. Things looked peachy. And Edmund walked over with some new plug-in
group's marketing stuff. It looked EXACTLY like PARIS. We were all saying,
'Damn, PARIS must be doing something right if it's getting ripped off.'
Little did we know . . .
TCB
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>LoL!! Man what gives!! Did SSC have the market cornered on DAW interface
graphics
>and color?
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>That would be my guess - a German thing.....
>>
>>....hmmm, so what explains ProTools' office cubical grey and spreadsheet
>
>>layout? A Silicon valley programmer thing? ;-)
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f807e8$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Iwish they made the interface "perkier" :) The very business like Gothic
>
>>> look
>>> is getting old. still to this day, Paris's Gold -harware like interface
>is
>>> a joy to look at.
>>>
>>> To be fair, I'm not all that knocked out about Logic 8's interface. It
>
>>> must
>>> be a German thing. :)
>>>
>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>but
>>> N4
>>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>
>>>>Highlights:
>>>>
>>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>the
>>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>of
>>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>>>before.
>>>>
>>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>
>>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>
>>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
for
>>> an
>>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>>
>>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>>>automatic
>>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>
>>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>
>>>>...etc...
>>>>
>>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>
>>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>
>>>>alone
>>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me
as
>>>>well.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Dedric
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90332 is a reply to message #90326] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 21:28 |
laMont [1]
Messages: 33
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Thad, what ar you talking about? please explain.
"And Edmund walked over with some new plug-in group's marketing stuff. It
looked EXACTLY like PARIS"..
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>I forget which trade show it was, but at one of the ones I went to in the
>go-go 90's when I was an audio writer I stopped by the E-mu booth (the Ensoniq
>sale was still pretty recent) to talk to SSC and Edmund. Brian T was there
>and it was all a big happy family. We all thought then that E-mu would be
>a great thing for the platform, some extra cash, a little more stability
>in the business relationship, a high profile name with more space in retail
>stores. Things looked peachy. And Edmund walked over with some new plug-in
>group's marketing stuff. It looked EXACTLY like PARIS. We were all saying,
>'Damn, PARIS must be doing something right if it's getting ripped off.'
>
>Little did we know . . .
>
>TCB
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>LoL!! Man what gives!! Did SSC have the market cornered on DAW interface
>graphics
>>and color?
>>
>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>That would be my guess - a German thing.....
>>>
>>>....hmmm, so what explains ProTools' office cubical grey and spreadsheet
>>
>>>layout? A Silicon valley programmer thing? ;-)
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f807e8$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Iwish they made the interface "perkier" :) The very business like Gothic
>>
>>>> look
>>>> is getting old. still to this day, Paris's Gold -harware like interface
>>is
>>>> a joy to look at.
>>>>
>>>> To be fair, I'm not all that knocked out about Logic 8's interface.
It
>>
>>>> must
>>>> be a German thing. :)
>>>>
>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>>but
>>>> N4
>>>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>>
>>>>>Highlights:
>>>>>
>>>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>>the
>>>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>>of
>>>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and
much
>>>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>>>>before.
>>>>>
>>>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>>
>>>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
>for
>>>> an
>>>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>>>>automatic
>>>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now
VST3
>>>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>>
>>>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>>
>>>>>...etc...
>>>>>
>>>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>>
>>>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>>
>>>>>alone
>>>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me
>as
>>>>>well.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90333 is a reply to message #90323] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 21:31 |
laMont [1]
Messages: 33
Registered: September 2007
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I hear ya. But, CA seems tobe oblivious at times. They float and out markey
site quite often. Yammy needs a third arm division and not clupm band instruments,
kazzoos, home pianos with DAW products.
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Lamont,
>Yamaha Commercial Audio and Yamaha Pro Audio are almost completely
>separate machines.
>I kinda wish to some extent that CA got put in charge of Steinberg
>instead of Pro Audio. At least for the Nuendo part.
>
>Can't wait to get hold N4 to see if Vista is more then just a bad joke.
>Chris
>
>
>
>LaMont wrote:
>> Hey Dave, okay okay.. You were right..BUT, what about Yamaha's offerings
for
>> all of this power. I'm sure they don;t want Euphonix to get all of the
DAW
>> controller glory?
>>
>>
>> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> What happened to all the Steinberg doom and gloom?? ;-)
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>> Man!! Looks like Nuendo is Still the king of "WorkFlow". Those new editing
>>>> features are in a league of their own..
>>>>
>>>> Vista support, true 64 bit very soon.. They came to play and stay..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>> but
>>>> N4
>>>>
>>>>> was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>>
>>>>> Highlights:
>>>>>
>>>>> * New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>> the
>>>>> ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>> of
>>>>> automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and
much
>>>>> more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
before.
>>>>>
>>>>> * New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>> * Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>>
>>>>> * Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
for
>>>> an
>>>>
>>>>> FX database - also great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>> * VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is automatic
>>>>> adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now
VST3
>>>>> plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>>
>>>>> * New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>>
>>>>> ...etc...
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>>
>>>>> For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>> alone
>>>>> are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me
as
>>>>> well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90358 is a reply to message #90311] |
Tue, 25 September 2007 11:10 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Well.... Paris' interface was cool, but it took up quite a bit of space
that
>would limit functionality in most DAWs today.
>I wasn't really into the gold thing personally, but hey, it worked for
>Midas. ;-) I gravitate toward blue/greys, so I'm okay with
>Nuendo/C4's interfaces.
>
>Dedric
>
Back when I was selling Paris some people expressed these same thoughts,
especially if they came from Cubase or Logic. I would try to get potential
customers to look at that non hardware demo and they would get turned off
by the color and the look. I got asked if it had skins here and there.
Some loved it and some thought it was yuk.
By the way, I'm glad we're on to different subjects.
James
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f8199d$1@linux...
>>
>> LoL!! Man what gives!! Did SSC have the market cornered on DAW interface
>> graphics
>> and color?
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>That would be my guess - a German thing.....
>>>
>>>....hmmm, so what explains ProTools' office cubical grey and spreadsheet
>>
>>>layout? A Silicon valley programmer thing? ;-)
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46f807e8$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Iwish they made the interface "perkier" :) The very business like Gothic
>>
>>>> look
>>>> is getting old. still to this day, Paris's Gold -harware like interface
>> is
>>>> a joy to look at.
>>>>
>>>> To be fair, I'm not all that knocked out about Logic 8's interface.
It
>>
>>>> must
>>>> be a German thing. :)
>>>>
>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
>> but
>>>> N4
>>>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>>>
>>>>>Highlights:
>>>>>
>>>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
>> the
>>>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
>> of
>>>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and
much
>>>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was
>>>>>before.
>>>>>
>>>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>>>
>>>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well
for
>>>> an
>>>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>>>
>>>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is
>>>>>automatic
>>>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now
VST3
>>>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>>>
>>>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>>>
>>>>>...etc...
>>>>>
>>>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>>>
>>>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
>>
>>>>>alone
>>>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me
as
>>>>>well.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Nuendo 4 released [message #90359 is a reply to message #90312] |
Tue, 25 September 2007 11:15 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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As I basically said recently, I think the 64bit thing will happen in time
and everybody will be doing it. I also think that most of the objections
to Vista for audio will be resolved in time also.
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>What happened to all the Steinberg doom and gloom?? ;-)
>
>David.
>
>LaMont wrote:
>> Man!! Looks like Nuendo is Still the king of "WorkFlow". Those new editing
>> features are in a league of their own..
>>
>> Vista support, true 64 bit very soon.. They came to play and stay..
>>
>>
>>
>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>
>>>I don't know how many users other than Lamont and I are using Nuendo,
but
>>
>> N4
>>
>>>was just released - shipping in early October:
>>>
>>>Highlights:
>>>
>>>* New automation system (complete automation panel): new modes include
the
>>>ability to only write from an point, leaving previous sections absent
of
>>>automation (Virgin Territory option); fill modes, preview mode, and much
>>>more. Looks like automation is about 15x more powerful than it was before.
>>>
>>>* New key commands for Cut head/tail, selections (great for post)
>>>
>>>* Free routing: any group or fx to any other, plus post fader routing
>>>
>>>* Media Bay (I hear it's enhanced from Cubase 4 and works quite well for
>>
>> an
>>
>>>FX database - also great for post)
>>>
>>>* VST3 - all included plugins are VST3 (biggest post advantage is automatic
>>>adapting to multichannel configs - Flux plugins already do, but now VST3
>>>plugins and Nuendo's stock plugins will also).
>>>
>>>* New logical editor looks much more powerful
>>>
>>>...etc...
>>>
>>>I'll let you guys read the rest from Steinberg if interested.
>>>
>>>For post this is a great release - the new automation and key commands
alone
>>>are worth the $249 upgrade - free routing will be a big boost for me as
>>>well.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Dedric
>>>
>>
>>
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