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- Ready to move to PARIS [message #108388] Wed, 10 September 2014 11:35 Go to next message
chucklesmcfarland is currently offline  chucklesmcfarland   UNITED STATES
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Hey all,

I have been following the adventures of you fellow Parisians for a few years now, but wasn't in a place where I could commit to build a system and keep it running.

Well that has changed and I would like to start assembling a rock solid system from the ground up.

Please let me know if you are selling any pieces or have any advice.

Cheers

Mike
- Re: Ready to move to PARIS [message #108389 is a reply to message #108388] Thu, 11 September 2014 06:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Will The Weirdo is currently offline  Will The Weirdo   
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My best advise is to be patient and understand completely that PARIS is old but sounds fantastic. I personally have been using PARIS since 1998 and have over 1 million soundscan from my PARIS work. I went PTHD but came back to PARIS for the sound. Currently I match it with Reaper & Nebula for great sounding music.

Tips
-PARIS EDS PCI cards will only fit 2 per motherboard unless you either; use an extension chassis or use one of the Jetway motherboards.
-Watch the only PARIS instructional DVD, I actually re-watch it every year, just to stay fresh.
-Enjoy the on-board efx, they are not plugins like you think now, they are efx from Ensoniq DSP chips from their ASR & DP Pro gear.
-PARIS is not that pretty but it still is the fastest DAW for recording around.
-Enjoy & welcome to the family!
- Re: Ready to move to PARIS [message #108390 is a reply to message #108389] Thu, 11 September 2014 07:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chucklesmcfarland is currently offline  chucklesmcfarland   UNITED STATES
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Will The Weirdo wrote on Thu, 11 September 2014 08:14
My best advise is to be patient and understand completely that PARIS is old but sounds fantastic. I personally have been using PARIS since 1998 and have over 1 million soundscan from my PARIS work. I went PTHD but came back to PARIS for the sound. Currently I match it with Reaper & Nebula for great sounding music.

Tips
-PARIS EDS PCI cards will only fit 2 per motherboard unless you either; use an extension chassis or use one of the Jetway motherboards.
-Watch the only PARIS instructional DVD, I actually re-watch it every year, just to stay fresh.
-Enjoy the on-board efx, they are not plugins like you think now, they are efx from Ensoniq DSP chips from their ASR & DP Pro gear.
-PARIS is not that pretty but it still is the fastest DAW for recording around.
-Enjoy & welcome to the family!



Hey Will,

Thanks for the helpful response.
I am in contact with Ron from this group and will be discussing what he has and where to go with that.
A few questions I have though -
Comparison between 2.0 and 3.0? I see there are issues with copy protection.
Mac vs PC? I can do either, but prefer Mac if possible, I have plenty of G4s around.

Thanks again for the guidance.

Cheers,

Mike
- Re: Ready to move to PARIS [message #108392 is a reply to message #108390] Thu, 11 September 2014 13:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mikeaudet   CANADA
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Location: Canada
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Hi Mike,

You can use a MAC, but only with OS 9, not OS X.

Also, all the development I have done is on the PC. Since ID would not release the source code to the PARIS app and Apple changed the underlying architecture of the platform, there is no way to get the PARIS app to work under OS X.

If you get an Intel MAC, you can always boot to Windows to use PARIS.

There are a few important differences between Version 2 and 3. Version 3 has fader and pan grouping, while version 2 does not. Version 2 has a bug that it will not show all the effects in the master list if they exceed a certain number. Version 3 has a graphical EQ, while version 2 does not. On the PC, version 3 has much better MTC sync capability. There are other differences, but these are the main ones for me.

I hope this helps!

Mike
- Re: Ready to move to PARIS [message #108393 is a reply to message #108392] Fri, 12 September 2014 04:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chucklesmcfarland is currently offline  chucklesmcfarland   UNITED STATES
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mikeaudet wrote on Thu, 11 September 2014 15:12
Hi Mike,

You can use a MAC, but only with OS 9, not OS X.

Also, all the development I have done is on the PC. Since ID would not release the source code to the PARIS app and Apple changed the underlying architecture of the platform, there is no way to get the PARIS app to work under OS X.

If you get an Intel MAC, you can always boot to Windows to use PARIS.

There are a few important differences between Version 2 and 3. Version 3 has fader and pan grouping, while version 2 does not. Version 2 has a bug that it will not show all the effects in the master list if they exceed a certain number. Version 3 has a graphical EQ, while version 2 does not. On the PC, version 3 has much better MTC sync capability. There are other differences, but these are the main ones for me.

I hope this helps!

Mike




Thanks for the tips Mike

It sounds like going the PC route would make more sense at this point. And that is fine, I can go either way, and it's going to get bounced out for mixing anyway, or do any of you cowboys mix IN PARIS?

How or where does one find a copy of 3.0 then?

Cheers

Mike

- Re: Ready to move to PARIS [message #108394 is a reply to message #108393] Fri, 12 September 2014 11:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chucklesmcfarland is currently offline  chucklesmcfarland   UNITED STATES
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chucklesmcfarland wrote on Fri, 12 September 2014 06:34
mikeaudet wrote on Thu, 11 September 2014 15:12
Hi Mike,

You can use a MAC, but only with OS 9, not OS X.

Also, all the development I have done is on the PC. Since ID would not release the source code to the PARIS app and Apple changed the underlying architecture of the platform, there is no way to get the PARIS app to work under OS X.

If you get an Intel MAC, you can always boot to Windows to use PARIS.

There are a few important differences between Version 2 and 3. Version 3 has fader and pan grouping, while version 2 does not. Version 2 has a bug that it will not show all the effects in the master list if they exceed a certain number. Version 3 has a graphical EQ, while version 2 does not. On the PC, version 3 has much better MTC sync capability. There are other differences, but these are the main ones for me.

I hope this helps!

Mike




Thanks for the tips Mike

It sounds like going the PC route would make more sense at this point. And that is fine, I can go either way, and it's going to get bounced out for mixing anyway, or do any of you cowboys mix IN PARIS?

How or where does one find a copy of 3.0 then?

Cheers

Mike



Whoops, wait, so you can have version 3 on OS 9? Then I would probably go that route, not PC.




- Re: Ready to move to PARIS [message #108395 is a reply to message #108394] Fri, 12 September 2014 16:42 Go to previous message
mikeaudet   CANADA
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Registered: February 2009
Location: Canada
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Hi Mike,

You can buy a used copy or maybe Intelligent Devices will sell you one outright. Their contact information is here:

http://intdevices.com/contact_us.shtml

Be advised that they have stated they will stop providing copy protection response codes for PARIS 3.0 after the end of this year.

All the best,

Mike
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