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OT: Cubase transcribing features? [message #97516]

Fri, 28 March 2008 09:08

ottawarocks

Messages: 12
Registered: September 2005

Junior Member

I know there's a lot of Cubase knowledge around here, so I thought I'd
ask...

I have a recording of a duo (acoustic guitar and clarinet). This is a mix,
so just a stereo track. I have no way to separate the clarinet from the
guitar.

I need a transcription of the clarinet parts. On paper, you know with a
staff and notes in standard notation.

This is either an exercise in writing out the notes... or using a tool to do
it.

Anyone know if Cubase can do that? This would be a double challenge, because
first, I need to somehow "isolate" the clarinet (i.e. get rid of the guitar)
before proceeding to running a software tool to spit out the transcription.

Any ideas? Am I dreaming in la-la land? I'm sure the second half of my
challenge is possible... just not sure about "erasing" the guitar...

Thanks in advance for any tips.
Dan

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Re: Cubase transcribing features? [message #97532 is a reply to message #97516]

Fri, 28 March 2008 13:51

AlexPlasko

Messages: 211
Registered: September 2006

Senior Member

Cubase does convert audio file pitch to midi and therefore transcription
,but not polyphonic.
Celemony melodyne does the same.
I don't think you can do it at this point. maybe when the new melodyne is
released ?that should do it because it breaks down chords into the
individual notes, but you will still have to discern which note is the
guitar and which note is the clarinet.
Id say to use your ears and a pencil and paper at this point.
"D.P." <ottawarocks@netscape.net> wrote in message news:47ed1abc@linux...
>I know there's a lot of Cubase knowledge around here, so I thought I'd
>ask...
>
> I have a recording of a duo (acoustic guitar and clarinet). This is a mix,
> so just a stereo track. I have no way to separate the clarinet from the
> guitar.
>
> I need a transcription of the clarinet parts. On paper, you know with a
> staff and notes in standard notation.
>
> This is either an exercise in writing out the notes... or using a tool to
> do it.
>
> Anyone know if Cubase can do that? This would be a double challenge,
> because first, I need to somehow "isolate" the clarinet (i.e. get rid of
> the guitar) before proceeding to running a software tool to spit out the
> transcription.
>
> Any ideas? Am I dreaming in la-la land? I'm sure the second half of my
> challenge is possible... just not sure about "erasing" the guitar...
>
> Thanks in advance for any tips.
> Dan
>

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Re: OT: Cubase transcribing features? [message #97538 is a reply to message #97516]

Fri, 28 March 2008 17:33

Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

http://www.widisoft.com/english/widi-vst-readme.html

:D

"D.P." <ottawarocks@netscape.net> wrote:
>I know there's a lot of Cubase knowledge around here, so I thought I'd
>ask...
>
>I have a recording of a duo (acoustic guitar and clarinet). This is a mix,

>so just a stereo track. I have no way to separate the clarinet from the

>guitar.
>
>I need a transcription of the clarinet parts. On paper, you know with a

>staff and notes in standard notation.
>
>This is either an exercise in writing out the notes... or using a tool to
do
>it.
>
>Anyone know if Cubase can do that? This would be a double challenge, because

>first, I need to somehow "isolate" the clarinet (i.e. get rid of the guitar)

>before proceeding to running a software tool to spit out the transcription.
>
>Any ideas? Am I dreaming in la-la land? I'm sure the second half of my
>challenge is possible... just not sure about "erasing" the guitar...
>
>Thanks in advance for any tips.
>Dan
>
>

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Re: OT: Cubase transcribing features? [message #97542 is a reply to message #97516]

Fri, 28 March 2008 16:55

Kerry Galloway

Messages: 56
Registered: December 2008

Member

I seldom bother with pitch to MIDI for transcription; even though Logic
has had this feature for a bout a decade or so, by the time I'm done
futzing with the software I usually could have transcribed it faster.

How long, and how complex, is the clarinet part? The reason I'm asking
is that there are users here, myself included, that I'd wager could
transcribe it for you in very short order if it wasn't a huge time-sink
(like "all the clarinet parts from Fiddler On The Roof"). Can you post
the file somewhere so I can take a listen?

- Kerry

In article <47ed1abc@linux>, "D.P." <ottawarocks@netscape.net> wrote:

> I know there's a lot of Cubase knowledge around here, so I thought I'd
> ask...
>
> I have a recording of a duo (acoustic guitar and clarinet). This is a mix,
> so just a stereo track. I have no way to separate the clarinet from the
> guitar.
>
> I need a transcription of the clarinet parts. On paper, you know with a
> staff and notes in standard notation.
>
> This is either an exercise in writing out the notes... or using a tool to do
> it.
>
> Anyone know if Cubase can do that? This would be a double challenge, because
> first, I need to somehow "isolate" the clarinet (i.e. get rid of the guitar)
> before proceeding to running a software tool to spit out the transcription.
>
> Any ideas? Am I dreaming in la-la land? I'm sure the second half of my
> challenge is possible... just not sure about "erasing" the guitar...
>
> Thanks in advance for any tips.
> Dan

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Re: OT: Cubase transcribing features? [message #97564 is a reply to message #97538]

Sat, 29 March 2008 13:00

AlexPlasko

Messages: 211
Registered: September 2006

Senior Member

Thanks Neil, I might try this myself.How good does this work?
"Neil" <OIOI@OI.com> wrote in message news:47ed8055$1@linux...
>
> http://www.widisoft.com/english/widi-vst-readme.html
>
> :D
>
>
> "D.P." <ottawarocks@netscape.net> wrote:
>>I know there's a lot of Cubase knowledge around here, so I thought I'd
>>ask...
>>
>>I have a recording of a duo (acoustic guitar and clarinet). This is a mix,
>
>>so just a stereo track. I have no way to separate the clarinet from the
>
>>guitar.
>>
>>I need a transcription of the clarinet parts. On paper, you know with a
>
>>staff and notes in standard notation.
>>
>>This is either an exercise in writing out the notes... or using a tool to
> do
>>it.
>>
>>Anyone know if Cubase can do that? This would be a double challenge,
>>because
>
>>first, I need to somehow "isolate" the clarinet (i.e. get rid of the
>>guitar)
>
>>before proceeding to running a software tool to spit out the
>>transcription.
>>
>>Any ideas? Am I dreaming in la-la land? I'm sure the second half of my
>>challenge is possible... just not sure about "erasing" the guitar...
>>
>>Thanks in advance for any tips.
>>Dan
>>
>>
>

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Re: OT: Cubase transcribing features? [message #97658 is a reply to message #97542]

Mon, 31 March 2008 10:53

ottawarocks

Messages: 12
Registered: September 2005

Junior Member

"Kerry Galloway" wrote:
> How long, and how complex, is the clarinet part? The reason I'm asking
> is that there are users here, myself included, that I'd wager could
> transcribe it for you in very short order if it wasn't a huge time-sink
> (like "all the clarinet parts from Fiddler On The Roof"). Can you post
> the file somewhere so I can take a listen?
>
> - Kerry
It'a actually a commercially available song called "Rouler sa bosse", off of
Bruce Cockburn's instrumental album titled "Speechless". I tried locating a
source to actually buy the sheet music, but have not had any luck. So since
this is not intended for any commercial usage (just for personal use for
playing as a duet), I figured transcribing would be the easiest. I imagine
the song can be heard on amazon.com, or perhaps on Bruce Cockburn's web
page. But I could also extract to MP3, I'd just need to figure out where to
"host" it...

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Re: Cubase transcribing features? [message #98057 is a reply to message #97532]

Fri, 18 April 2008 00:52

Messages: 2
Registered: December 2006

Junior Member

Hi Alex - Could you tell me where to find -convert audio pitch to midi -
feature in cubase? I can't find it - i have sx 3 and 4- this would be very
handy even if just monophonic . I wasnt able to find any hits on the web or
manual either.

Thanks

-b

"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote in message
news:47ed5d2c$1@linux...
> Cubase does convert audio file pitch to midi and therefore transcription
> ,but not polyphonic.
> Celemony melodyne does the same.
> I don't think you can do it at this point. maybe when the new melodyne is
> released ?that should do it because it breaks down chords into the
> individual notes, but you will still have to discern which note is the
> guitar and which note is the clarinet.
> Id say to use your ears and a pencil and paper at this point.
> "D.P." <ottawarocks@netscape.net> wrote in message news:47ed1abc@linux...
>>I know there's a lot of Cubase knowledge around here, so I thought I'd
>>ask...
>>
>> I have a recording of a duo (acoustic guitar and clarinet). This is a
>> mix, so just a stereo track. I have no way to separate the clarinet from
>> the guitar.
>>
>> I need a transcription of the clarinet parts. On paper, you know with a
>> staff and notes in standard notation.
>>
>> This is either an exercise in writing out the notes... or using a tool to
>> do it.
>>
>> Anyone know if Cubase can do that? This would be a double challenge,
>> because first, I need to somehow "isolate" the clarinet (i.e. get rid of
>> the guitar) before proceeding to running a software tool to spit out the
>> transcription.
>>
>> Any ideas? Am I dreaming in la-la land? I'm sure the second half of my
>> challenge is possible... just not sure about "erasing" the guitar...
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any tips.
>> Dan
>>
>
>

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