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Dropping in, shirts, and motorized faders... [message #88583] Fri, 27 July 2007 12:40 Go to next message
Doug Wellington is currently offline  Doug Wellington   UNITED STATES
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Well, it's been a couple months, so I figured I should drop in suddenly.
(And probably drop out as suddenly!) ;-) Summers are the busiest time of
year for me...

I've got a couple things going that are keeping me quite busy. I've got a
panel making and silkscreening business, so I'm having fun planning out some
destruction for one of my C-16 controllers. (Different colors and wooden
end cheeks...) The other thing I've gotten into is microcontroller
programming - anybody interested in motorized faders? (He asks
mysteriously...)

If anyone makes tee shirts, you *MUST* make them in XXL size so that I can
wear them!

Doug

P.S. Kim, I'll send you an email later today or over the weekend. Just let
me know when things change and I'll update it on my end. I'll give you my
text pager email address so that you can let me know even if I'm not online.
Also, one possibility, since it's NNTP, is that I could set up a backup
server over here and sync up with yours...

http://www.parisfaqs.com


Re: Dropping in, shirts, and motorized faders... [message #88585 is a reply to message #88583] Fri, 27 July 2007 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Doug,
Motorized faders in a Paris rig would be a god send!
If you can get it working you can count me in.
Tom
"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote in message =
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Well, it's been a couple months, so I figured I should drop in =
suddenly.=20
(And probably drop out as suddenly!) ;-) Summers are the busiest =
time of=20
year for me...

I've got a couple things going that are keeping me quite busy. I've =
got a=20
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out some=20
destruction for one of my C-16 controllers. (Different colors and =
wooden=20
end cheeks...) The other thing I've gotten into is microcontroller=20
programming - anybody interested in motorized faders? (He asks=20
mysteriously...)

If anyone makes tee shirts, you *MUST* make them in XXL size so that I =
can=20
wear them!

Doug

P.S. Kim, I'll send you an email later today or over the weekend. =
Just let=20
me know when things change and I'll update it on my end. I'll give =
you my=20
text pager email address so that you can let me know even if I'm not =
online.=20
Also, one possibility, since it's NNTP, is that I could set up a =
backup=20
server over here and sync up with yours...

http://www.parisfaqs.com=20




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Re: Dropping in, shirts, and motorized faders... [message #88587 is a reply to message #88585] Fri, 27 July 2007 16:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Dude you so totally rock
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:46aa588b@linux...
Doug,
Motorized faders in a Paris rig would be a god send!
If you can get it working you can count me in.
Tom
"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote in message =
news:46aa4b6b@linux...
Well, it's been a couple months, so I figured I should drop in =
suddenly.=20
(And probably drop out as suddenly!) ;-) Summers are the busiest =
time of=20
year for me...

I've got a couple things going that are keeping me quite busy. I've =
got a=20
panel making and silkscreening business, so I'm having fun planning =
out some=20
destruction for one of my C-16 controllers. (Different colors and =
wooden=20
end cheeks...) The other thing I've gotten into is microcontroller=20
programming - anybody interested in motorized faders? (He asks=20
mysteriously...)

If anyone makes tee shirts, you *MUST* make them in XXL size so that =
I can=20
wear them!

Doug

P.S. Kim, I'll send you an email later today or over the weekend. =
Just let=20
me know when things change and I'll update it on my end. I'll give =
you my=20
text pager email address so that you can let me know even if I'm not =
online.=20
Also, one possibility, since it's NNTP, is that I could set up a =
backup=20
server over here and sync up with yours...

http://www.parisfaqs.com=20




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Re: Dropping in, shirts, and motorized faders... [message #88589 is a reply to message #88583] Fri, 27 July 2007 19:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   UNITED STATES
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"The other thing I've gotten into is microcontroller
> programming - anybody interested in motorized faders? (He asks
> mysteriously...)
>
>

Doug,

Back in 1999 I worked with Matt Craig on locating the tiny servo motors that
would be necessary in order to fit them inside a C-16. We did find some, but
they would have to be ordered in large lots and it would have been too much
of a cash outlay to justify building a prototype. IIRC, that was one of the
main reasons Matt scrubbed this project.

Deej
Re: Dropping in, shirts, and motorized faders... [message #88591 is a reply to message #88583] Fri, 27 July 2007 19:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Artola is currently offline  Paul Artola   UNITED STATES
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I have the great fortune of having a special phone connection to Doug.
Every so often I give him a ring and we chit-chat about life, music,
and various projects on our benches. Mine ideas are all theoretical,
whereas his are actually being engineered and programmed, or at least,
he has an idea what it would take to get the job done.

One idea we bounced around recently got proposed here, but no one
seemed interested, so I guess it has died. I thought, with his
silk-screening ability, Doug could figure out how to repaint blackface
C16s to blueface. Actually what I want is to render C16s into C16Pros.
I don't want to have to tape labels to my C16 to get it to work in
ParisPro mode. We asked if anyone else would be interested, but none
seemed to care.

Another idea has to do with building a box that converts the signals
passing back and forth from the EDS to the C16. Doug assures me that
the EDS end of the cat5 cable is a serial port, so I envision a box
that converts the serial data stream to appropriate MIDI commands.
Working in either direction would be a plus since it could mean using
other controllers with Paris, or using the C16 with other software.

Doug has some other ventures going on that I won't divulge, but I hope
he is successful with them. Cool things would surely result.

- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:40:49 -0700, "Doug Wellington"
<doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:

>Well, it's been a couple months, so I figured I should drop in suddenly.
>(And probably drop out as suddenly!) ;-) Summers are the busiest time of
>year for me...
>
>I've got a couple things going that are keeping me quite busy. I've got a
>panel making and silkscreening business, so I'm having fun planning out some
>destruction for one of my C-16 controllers. (Different colors and wooden
>end cheeks...) The other thing I've gotten into is microcontroller
>programming - anybody interested in motorized faders? (He asks
>mysteriously...)
>
>If anyone makes tee shirts, you *MUST* make them in XXL size so that I can
>wear them!
>
>Doug
>
>P.S. Kim, I'll send you an email later today or over the weekend. Just let
>me know when things change and I'll update it on my end. I'll give you my
>text pager email address so that you can let me know even if I'm not online.
>Also, one possibility, since it's NNTP, is that I could set up a backup
>server over here and sync up with yours...
>
>http://www.parisfaqs.com
>
Re: Dropping in, shirts, and motorized faders... [message #88595 is a reply to message #88583] Fri, 27 July 2007 23:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>The other thing I've gotten into is microcontroller
>programming

By any chance, do you know anything about Massenburg
Automation systems & how to repair them, as a result of these
endeavors?

Neil
Re: Dropping in, shirts, and motorized faders... [message #88601 is a reply to message #88589] Sat, 28 July 2007 20:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doug Wellington is currently offline  Doug Wellington   UNITED STATES
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DJ wrote:
> Back in 1999 I worked with Matt Craig on locating the tiny servo motors that
> would be necessary in order to fit them inside a C-16. We did find some, but
> they would have to be ordered in large lots and it would have been too much
> of a cash outlay to justify building a prototype. IIRC, that was one of the
> main reasons Matt scrubbed this project.

I'm not trying to do anything with a C-16... ;-)

Doug

http://www.parisfaqs.com


Re: Dropping in, shirts, and motorized faders... [message #88602 is a reply to message #88595] Sat, 28 July 2007 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doug Wellington is currently offline  Doug Wellington   UNITED STATES
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Neil wrote:
> By any chance, do you know anything about Massenburg
> Automation systems & how to repair them, as a result of these
> endeavors?

Not yet, but that could change. What's up?

Doug


Re: Dropping in, shirts, and motorized faders... [message #88603 is a reply to message #88602] Sat, 28 July 2007 22:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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Doug Wellington <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>Neil wrote:
>> By any chance, do you know anything about Massenburg
>> Automation systems & how to repair them, as a result of these
>> endeavors?
>
>Not yet, but that could change. What's up?

Friend of mine has a Massenburg Automation system that's giving
him occasional fits. Typical non-supported product issues...
you know, beeyatch to find people who know how to work on it,
there's a diagnostic device that exists, but Rick Rubin has the
only known working one, having to find & fly people in who
worked on the orginal product in order to fix it - shit like
that. Was just thinking if you'd gained any knowledge on these,
I could hook you up.

Neil
Re: Dropping in, shirts, and motorized faders... [message #88604 is a reply to message #88601] Sat, 28 July 2007 22:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   UNITED STATES
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Serial to midi? Would it be possible to integrate the R-bus that way?

"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote in message
news:46ac0cf8@linux...
> DJ wrote:
>> Back in 1999 I worked with Matt Craig on locating the tiny servo motors
>> that would be necessary in order to fit them inside a C-16. We did find
>> some, but they would have to be ordered in large lots and it would have
>> been too much of a cash outlay to justify building a prototype. IIRC,
>> that was one of the main reasons Matt scrubbed this project.
>
> I'm not trying to do anything with a C-16... ;-)
>
> Doug
>
> http://www.parisfaqs.com
Re: Dropping in, shirts, and motorized faders... [message #88626 is a reply to message #88603] Mon, 30 July 2007 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doug Wellington is currently offline  Doug Wellington   UNITED STATES
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"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
> Friend of mine has a Massenburg Automation system that's giving
> him occasional fits. Typical non-supported product issues...
> you know, beeyatch to find people who know how to work on it,
> there's a diagnostic device that exists, but Rick Rubin has the
> only known working one, having to find & fly people in who
> worked on the orginal product in order to fix it - shit like
> that. Was just thinking if you'd gained any knowledge on these,
> I could hook you up.

Well, at the moment, I know nothing about how the Massenburg works. I'll
keep my ear to the ground and if I learn anything about it, I'll let you
know. Right now I have a couple projects on the bench - a custom foot
controller (22 buttons, four line VFD) and a 16+1 motorized fader control
panel. Both were originally designed to go with the Looperlative LP1, but
have expanded a *bit* beyond that...

Doug

http://www.parisfaqs.com


Re: Dropping in, shirts, and motorized faders... [message #88627 is a reply to message #88604] Mon, 30 July 2007 14:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doug Wellington is currently offline  Doug Wellington   UNITED STATES
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> Serial to midi? Would it be possible to integrate the R-bus that way?

R-bus? Roland's R-Bus?

Doug

http://www.parisfaqs.com


Re: Dropping in, shirts, and motorized faders... [message #88628 is a reply to message #88627] Mon, 30 July 2007 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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Yeah!!


"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote in message
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>> Serial to midi? Would it be possible to integrate the R-bus that way?
>
> R-bus? Roland's R-Bus?
>
> Doug
>
> http://www.parisfaqs.com
>
Re: Dropping in, shirts, and motorized faders... [message #88631 is a reply to message #88628] Mon, 30 July 2007 21:11 Go to previous message
Doug Wellington is currently offline  Doug Wellington   UNITED STATES
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>> R-bus? Roland's R-Bus?
>
> Yeah!!

Hmmm, let me see what I can do. I have lots of R-Bus stuff, so I can
envision all kinds of fun projects. :-) So, what are you trying to
accomplish?

I recently bought an older, but still quite nice, logic analyzer. I've
been having fun watching the signals go by on the various lines of the
EDS cables. Hopefully I can finish up the EDS to dual-ADAT converter
one of these years. I wonder how many of those I can fit in a 1U box...

Doug (Anybody happen to have any venture capital just lying about?)

http://www.parisfaqs.com


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