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OK, I'm confused and could use some guidance [message #82969] Wed, 11 April 2007 19:05 Go to next message
Paul Braun is currently offline  Paul Braun   UNITED STATES
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Hey, it happens.

Can I not use two 8-in cards and an adat card at the same time?

I just plugged my new 8-in card into the mec tonight and fired it up.

My plan was to use the 8in cards for, well, inputs and then use the
adat for a recording feed to the guy making the cd-now masters for
Sunday's concert.

But when I opened the bay and the MEC modules, I could see all three,
but the adat card had hijacked one set of 8 inputs as well as the
outputs, and I couldn't find any way to turn that off and just have it
assigned to the outputs.

Is that just not possible? If that's the case, then the adat card
comes out. But don't you guys use adat to pipe to effects and stuff?

Thanks.

pab
Re: OK, I'm confused and could use some guidance [message #82972 is a reply to message #82969] Wed, 11 April 2007 20:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
audioguy_editout_ is currently offline  audioguy_editout_   CANADA
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You can fill ALL the slots in the MEC, but you can only
select *two* modules at a time to be accessable for Input or
output. This means you can not pull two inputs off of an
adat card while using 14 analog inputs... that would require
having three cards active.

David.

Paul Braun wrote:
> Hey, it happens.
>
> Can I not use two 8-in cards and an adat card at the same time?
>
> I just plugged my new 8-in card into the mec tonight and fired it up.
>
> My plan was to use the 8in cards for, well, inputs and then use the
> adat for a recording feed to the guy making the cd-now masters for
> Sunday's concert.
>
> But when I opened the bay and the MEC modules, I could see all three,
> but the adat card had hijacked one set of 8 inputs as well as the
> outputs, and I couldn't find any way to turn that off and just have it
> assigned to the outputs.
>
> Is that just not possible? If that's the case, then the adat card
> comes out. But don't you guys use adat to pipe to effects and stuff?
>
> Thanks.
>
> pab
Re: OK, I'm confused and could use some guidance [message #82974 is a reply to message #82972] Wed, 11 April 2007 20:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Braun is currently offline  Paul Braun   UNITED STATES
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:14:13 -0600, "Dave(EK Sound)"
<audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:

>You can fill ALL the slots in the MEC, but you can only
>select *two* modules at a time to be accessable for Input or
>output. This means you can not pull two inputs off of an
>adat card while using 14 analog inputs... that would require
>having three cards active.
>
>David.
>
Ahhh. Then I'm going to play with the bay and figure out how to pull
the adat card from the config and drop the second 8in in its place.

Thanks.
Re: OK, I'm confused and could use some guidance [message #82979 is a reply to message #82974] Wed, 11 April 2007 21:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sandy Tipping is currently offline  Sandy Tipping   UNITED STATES
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Paul,

You CAN have 16 inputs (2 8-input analog modules) active AND the 8-ouput
ADAT module active, because the input segment and output segment of each MEC
Module are treated independently.

The 16 input blocks and 16 output blocks are logically separate, meaning
that you CAN use 16 analog inputs and feed 8 outputs via ADAT. Notice that
the ADAT block can live on the input side AND / OR the output side
simultaneously.

Hope this helps.

Sandy

"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:61ar135idbi52hpfdu3k526tp7mgk7a422@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:14:13 -0600, "Dave(EK Sound)"
> <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>You can fill ALL the slots in the MEC, but you can only
>>select *two* modules at a time to be accessable for Input or
>>output. This means you can not pull two inputs off of an
>>adat card while using 14 analog inputs... that would require
>>having three cards active.
>>
>>David.
>>
> Ahhh. Then I'm going to play with the bay and figure out how to pull
> the adat card from the config and drop the second 8in in its place.
>
> Thanks.
Re: OK, I'm confused and could use some guidance [message #82986 is a reply to message #82979] Thu, 12 April 2007 05:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Braun is currently offline  Paul Braun   UNITED STATES
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 23:33:04 -0500, "Sandy Tipping"
<tippsand@earthling.net> wrote:

>Paul,
>
>You CAN have 16 inputs (2 8-input analog modules) active AND the 8-ouput
>ADAT module active, because the input segment and output segment of each MEC
>Module are treated independently.
>
>The 16 input blocks and 16 output blocks are logically separate, meaning
>that you CAN use 16 analog inputs and feed 8 outputs via ADAT. Notice that
>the ADAT block can live on the input side AND / OR the output side
>simultaneously.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Sandy

I'll try that again tonight - I thought I could do that, but couldn't
figure out how to remove just the adat input side and leave the output
side.

This is why I'm screwing with this stuff NOW and not Sunday
afternoon...

pab
Re: OK, I'm confused and could use some guidance [message #83021 is a reply to message #82979] Thu, 12 April 2007 19:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Braun is currently offline  Paul Braun   UNITED STATES
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 23:33:04 -0500, "Sandy Tipping"
<tippsand@earthling.net> wrote:

>Paul,
>
>You CAN have 16 inputs (2 8-input analog modules) active AND the 8-ouput
>ADAT module active, because the input segment and output segment of each MEC
>Module are treated independently.
>
>The 16 input blocks and 16 output blocks are logically separate, meaning
>that you CAN use 16 analog inputs and feed 8 outputs via ADAT. Notice that
>the ADAT block can live on the input side AND / OR the output side
>simultaneously.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Sandy

I messed with it some more this evening, and found that I could drag
the adat IN block out of the assignment while still leaving the adat
OUT patched in. Then I dropped the other 8in card into the second set
of inputs, and life is good.

Now - adat optical question. I patched the mixer mains to module 1 &2
since I only need two channels out for this project. I've never used
adat lightpipe before, only toslink optical. If I plug an optical
cable from the adat card into, say, the optical in of a cd recorder,
will it see the two channels, or is it a completely different data
stream protocol and I need something that speaks lightpipe to pick the
two channels out of the stream?

pab
Re: OK, I'm confused and could use some guidance [message #83023 is a reply to message #83021] Thu, 12 April 2007 20:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
audioguy_editout_ is currently offline  audioguy_editout_   CANADA
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The adat protocol it *completely* different from TOSlink and
nothing will be recognized.

David.

Paul Braun wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 23:33:04 -0500, "Sandy Tipping"
> <tippsand@earthling.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Paul,
>>
>>You CAN have 16 inputs (2 8-input analog modules) active AND the 8-ouput
>>ADAT module active, because the input segment and output segment of each MEC
>>Module are treated independently.
>>
>>The 16 input blocks and 16 output blocks are logically separate, meaning
>>that you CAN use 16 analog inputs and feed 8 outputs via ADAT. Notice that
>>the ADAT block can live on the input side AND / OR the output side
>>simultaneously.
>>
>>Hope this helps.
>>
>>Sandy
>
>
> I messed with it some more this evening, and found that I could drag
> the adat IN block out of the assignment while still leaving the adat
> OUT patched in. Then I dropped the other 8in card into the second set
> of inputs, and life is good.
>
> Now - adat optical question. I patched the mixer mains to module 1 &2
> since I only need two channels out for this project. I've never used
> adat lightpipe before, only toslink optical. If I plug an optical
> cable from the adat card into, say, the optical in of a cd recorder,
> will it see the two channels, or is it a completely different data
> stream protocol and I need something that speaks lightpipe to pick the
> two channels out of the stream?
>
> pab
Re: OK, I'm confused and could use some guidance [message #83030 is a reply to message #83023] Fri, 13 April 2007 05:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Braun is currently offline  Paul Braun   UNITED STATES
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:18:48 -0600, "Dave(EK Sound)"
<audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:

>The adat protocol it *completely* different from TOSlink and
>nothing will be recognized.
>

That's kinda what I thought. However, I believe my friend's rig has
an adat-compatible interface in the chain before the cd-r, so we
should be good.

Thanks.

pab
Re: OK, I'm confused and could use some guidance [message #83044 is a reply to message #83023] Fri, 13 April 2007 12:18 Go to previous message
Deej [4] is currently offline  Deej [4]   UNITED STATES
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Dave,

I got Paris ADAT modules to operate via spdif Toslink on channels 1& 2.

Deej


"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> The adat protocol it *completely* different from TOSlink and nothing will
> be recognized.
>
> David.
>
> Paul Braun wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 23:33:04 -0500, "Sandy Tipping"
>> <tippsand@earthling.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Paul,
>>>
>>>You CAN have 16 inputs (2 8-input analog modules) active AND the 8-ouput
>>>ADAT module active, because the input segment and output segment of each
>>>MEC Module are treated independently.
>>>
>>>The 16 input blocks and 16 output blocks are logically separate, meaning
>>>that you CAN use 16 analog inputs and feed 8 outputs via ADAT. Notice
>>>that the ADAT block can live on the input side AND / OR the output side
>>>simultaneously.
>>>
>>>Hope this helps.
>>>
>>>Sandy
>>
>>
>> I messed with it some more this evening, and found that I could drag
>> the adat IN block out of the assignment while still leaving the adat
>> OUT patched in. Then I dropped the other 8in card into the second set
>> of inputs, and life is good.
>>
>> Now - adat optical question. I patched the mixer mains to module 1 &2
>> since I only need two channels out for this project. I've never used
>> adat lightpipe before, only toslink optical. If I plug an optical
>> cable from the adat card into, say, the optical in of a cd recorder,
>> will it see the two channels, or is it a completely different data
>> stream protocol and I need something that speaks lightpipe to pick the
>> two channels out of the stream?
>>
>> pab
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