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| Re: Bizzare_assertion_fail_problem_any_insight? [message #60845 is a reply to message #60808] |
Fri, 02 December 2005 01:08   |
Dimitrios
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n the annual
> cost of it would cost you to financing or leasing one? If that
> turns out to be the case, that might be a good investment
> simply becasue it'll help put more bucks in your pocket.
>
> Another alternative might be getting an LE system with the
> Digi-002... the convertors on those aren't as good as the ones
> you'd get with an HD rig, but they don't completely suck, and
> it would allow you to bring in PT projects for overdubs, or
> even start projects off with basic tracks & the client might
> then go to another studio with a bigger PT rig for completion
> & mixdown.
>
> Not that I'm a newly-minted PT fan, but I'm just thinking in
> practical terms.
>
>
> Neil
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Dimitrios,
Rendering is your answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In stereo =
the right side=20
won't have any effect. Double check to see that their timing is correct =
too.
Some people have problems with that.
Tom
"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message news:43900b57$1@linux...
There you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =
after that=20
each stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will do the =
job=20
when saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if something =
are=20
going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of =
the=20
stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in version 2, =
when=20
mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and right and =
muting all=20
other tracks. Then you can import them into the project again on their =
old=20
places and give them new names.
Erling
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding =
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| Re: Bizzare_assertion_fail_problem_any_insight? [message #60853 is a reply to message #60846] |
Fri, 02 December 2005 06:47 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
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same length on each stereo files or no different=20
holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the stereo=20
objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=20
Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i =
melding=20
<BR>>>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=
t;=20
><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =
finished my=20
project mixing and when I try to put a <BR>>>> >=20
stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > effect on any =
audio=20
track on any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =
get<BR>>>>=20
> assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on =
same name=20
or other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use =
stereo=20
effects as I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know =
why=20
Paris doesn't let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>> =
>=20
=
Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>> <BR>>><BR>>><BR>>=
=20
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------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C5F725.75C40B40--Thanks for sharing your info about your Linux experience, Thad. That's
good to hear. My old PARIS Intel box has became my Linux/BeOS box.
I've used a lot of different hardware and OS combinations over the
years. OSX with its command line, UNIX roots and tons of media
production software has covered my primary computing needs fairly well
for the last couple of years. However things are steadily progressing in
Linux land and I think it has a bright future.
I hear you about proprietary systems. I'm not against them except when
they are used to force out competition through means other than on their
technical merits, as Microsoft has notably done. And on the flip side,
their vulnerability in manipulated markets, as the Amiga and BeOS ably
demonstrated. Open source has become the best way to survive in this
environment. Even Apple is participating in open source to an extent at
the kernel and browser levels.
I am not opposed to companies making money on their technology when
competing fairly on merits and pushing the envelope to provide needed
tools. I'm happy to pay fair prices for hardware and software when they
meets my needs, and to support talented engineers in the quest. I
originally bought PARIS for that reason.
But using monopolistic leveraging, Orwellian marketspeak, and swallowing
other companies while killing a lot of great competitive tech and
promoting marginal tech, that kind of behavior doesn't endear much respect.
I got into Macs this time around because of OSX and the continued
strides being made with OSX production software. After years of
misdirection with OS7-8-9 and failed attempts to significantly progress,
with OSX Apple was able to push the envelope to provide improved
technology for computing, media production, and lately, media distribution.
I'm not saying Apple is perfect, there are disadvantages to some of
their decisions and they have had a lot of reports from me to help them
improve. :^) But the advantages of OSX, generally solid hardware like
the current dual G5s, and a steady stream of capable software transcend
the disadvantages right now.
Good luck with your computer and music pursuits! When the time comes to
move your music production over to Linux I'd love to hear how it goes.
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
TCB wrote:
> I was just busting your chops a bit. I yam what I yam.
>
> On the "desktop" OS front I have converted 100% to Debian GNU/Linux. I still
> have one M$oft box for my audio stuff (until Live, CubaseSX, VST, and a ton
> of other things get ported to GNU/Linux I have no choice), but everything
> else runs on GNU/Linux. I have to say whenver I use a desktop that isn't
> Gnome and doesn't give me immediate access to a powerful command line I feel
> like I'm running on one leg. There are some bumps along the road, and I have
> to install some non free software for remote access to work (including some
> kernel patches that are a PITA), but it's been worth every bit of the effort.
> Now that I'm doing computer work again for a living I'm happy to be free
> of proprietary software as much as humanly possible. For me all proprietary
> systems like OS X, XP, Vista, BeOS, and everything else are all roughly equivalent
> evils--places I have to spend some time in order to make a living.
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>>Heh. Yep Thad, I'm running it on BeOS, maybe that's the problem? ;^)
>>
>>Time for a BeOS report I guess. Palm bought BeOS and hired members of
>>the engineering team. Your Palm's operating system now benefits.
>>
>>Be retained the right to sue Microsoft for closing them out of the OS
>>market for Intel boxes through illegally restrictive OEM agreements.
>>Microsoft paid millions to settle. Chump change.
>>
>>Wish it had been different. BeOS was full of great tech. Imagine where
>>it could be today.
>>
>>Heck, for that matter imagine where PARIS could be today, if only...
>>
>>More on BeOS:
>>http://www.birdhouse.org/beos/byte/30-bootloader/
>>http://www.itjungle.com/mid/mid022702-story06.html
>>http://www.mv-voice.com/morgue/2003/2003_09_26.bisi.html
>>
>>Meanwhile OSX has been steadily improving and has some good stuff. Oddly
>
>
>>I ran Logic all day today in a project that was crashing left and right
>
>
>>last time I worked on that project. It didn't crash once today.
>>
>>So I don't know, maybe it's not a Logic problem. It may have to do with
>
>
>>Native Instruments plugins, whatever's going on with my system drive or
>
>
>>?. Or maybe a recent update fixed something. BTW, I do send bug reports
>
>
>>to Apple so they've seen the detailed crash reports.
>>
>>The bug where Logic stops playing back a virtual synth did come up one
>>time today. That one needs to be fixed. Reloading the song is the
>>workaround.
>>
>>On the plus side, Logic on a dual G5 is incredible in its capabilities
>>and the music is sounding great.
>>
>>Nice to hear from you, Thad.
>>
>>Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>DJ wrote:
>>
>>>heheheh.........hi thad
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:438f5066$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>You're running this on BeOS, right?
>>>>
>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'm using Logic "Pro" 7.1 on a dual 2.5GHZ G5 running OSX. Logic would
>>>>>be "Pro" if it didn't crash. Of course OSX doesn't go down when Logic
>>>>>does but it's still an interruption to restart Logic when it happens.
>>>>>Some of that may be a hardware problem with my rig, I'm tracking down
>
> a
>
>>>>>possible HD glitch right now.
>>>>>
>>>>>The other thing about Logic is there is a bit of a learning curve. Most
>>>>
>>>>>things are straight forward but a few things are obtuse. You might give
>>>>
>>>>>yourself a few weeks to come up to speed, depending on what your needs
>>>
>>>are.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Those negatives aside, Logic has come a long way and it rocks. It has
>
> an
>
>>>>>incredible selection of useful plugins for convolution reverb,
>>>>>compression, limiting, distortion, EQ, etc. It also includes a good
>>>>>variety of excellent virtual instrument/synth plugins, and great third
>>>>>party plugins are readily available. It really is a virtual studio and
>>>>>I'm very happy with the tracks I'm producing. C'mon over and check it
>>>>>out if you're ever in the neighborhood.
>>>>>
>>>>>Everything is automatable. Mixers show as many tracks as you have. The
>>>>>MIDI features are comprehensive. Logic can play video files for film
>>>>>scoring.
>>>>>
>>>>>The G5 processors support so many plugins and tracks that I rarely have
>>>>
>>>>>to "freeze" anything, it's all live. But if I ever need more CPU
>>>>>overhead, freezing a track converts a track and all plugin operations
>
> to
>
>>>>>an audio file. It can be unfrozen if any editing is needed. There's also
>>>>
>>>>>an option to network with another Mac to farm out CPU time but I've
>>>>>never needed that with the G5. BTW, the new dual core dual processor
>
> G5
>
>>>>>box is somewhere around twice as fast as mine. Whoa.
>>>>>
>>>>>If at all possible, you should try to mix on each of the systems you're
>>>>
>>>>>considering and see if the sound pleases your ear. The i/o you choose
>>>>>will also matter. Like Tony I'm using a MOTU 828MII which has been a
>>>>>decent sounding, reliable piece of gear, and there are many other
>>>>>options to consider. You can combine several i/o devices if you need
>
> to
>
>>>>>expand to additional channels. If you need flying faders there are
>>>>>several choices with or without built-in i/o.
>>>>>
>>>&
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| Re: Bizzare_assertion_fail_problem_any_insight? [message #60855 is a reply to message #60853] |
Fri, 02 December 2005 08:42 |
Dimitrios
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64;galicorp.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the =
>stereo=20
> file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the =
>sample=20
> (the furthest down you can go on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=20
> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
>message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>>>> =
>Is it=20
> exactly the same length on each stereo files or no different=20
> holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the stereo=20
> objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=20
> Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i =
>melding=20
> <BR>>>> <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=
>t;=20
> ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =
>finished my=20
> project mixing and when I try to put a <BR>>>> >=20
> stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > effect on any =
>audio=20
> track on any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =
>get<BR>>>>=20
> > assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on =
>same name=20
> or other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use =
>stereo=20
> effects as I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know =
>why=20
> Paris doesn't let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>> =
>>=20
> =
>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>=
>=20
> <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Dimitrios,
Are you saying you can save before this stereo plugin
is inserted? I'd say you may have a rouge plugin that
your wrapper or Paris just doesn't like. Try the same thing
in a different project. ie: Same stereo plugin inserted
on another stereo pair of tracks. Now can you save?
If so it may be your project. If not it's probably your plugin.
Good luck,
Tom
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:43906b78$1@linux...
Thanks for your suggestions.
I have rendered using the hardware method via adat and achieved one =
nice
compact stereo track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved all audio =
files
on new folder and saved under new name I used the clear missing files =
just
before that but again no luck when I put a stereo native effect on =
this stereotrack
even without hitting play when I try to save assertion fails and =
doesn't
allow of any save !
Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve ...
rEGARDS,
dIMITRIOS
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Dimitrios,
>Rendering is your answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In =
stereo
=3D
>the right side=3D20
>won't have any effect. Double check to see that their timing is =
correct
=3D
>too.
>Some people have problems with that.
>Tom
> "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =
news:43900b57$1@linux...
> There you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =
=3D
>after that=3D20
> each stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will do =
the
=3D
>job=3D20
> when saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if =
something
=3D
>are=3D20
> going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some =
of =3D
>the=3D20
> stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in version 2, =
=3D
>when=3D20
> mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and right and =
=3D
>muting all=3D20
> other tracks. Then you can import them into the project again on =
their
=3D
>old=3D20
> places and give them new names.
>
> Erling
>
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding =3D
>news:439000f1$1@linux...
> >
> > Hi,
> > Thanks for your replies.
> > What I have managed is to have the same start and end for both =
audio
=3D
>files
> > just by cutting at cursor pointy on both tracks.
> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of themhas different cut =
points
=3D
>and=3D20
> > joint
> > points , does this matter?
> > If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not actually =
stereo
=3D
>but
> > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different =
parts
=3D
>on=3D20
> > each
> > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on time.
> > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the stereo =
perspective
=3D
>of=3D20
> > them
> > pl;aying hard left and hard right.
> > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!
> > Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility , not like =
=3D
>waves=3D20
> > imager
> > at all...
> > Cheers,
> > DImitrios
> >
> >
> > "Ennio" <ennio@galicorp.net> wrote:
> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the stereo file =
must
=3D
>be
> > at
> >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down you =
can =3D
>go on
> > the
> >>zoom tool)
> >>
> >>"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =
news:438f4d36@linux...
> >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no =
different
=3D
>holes
> >>in
> >>> any of the stereo objects?
> >>>
> >>> Erling
> >>>
> >>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding=3D20
> >>> news:438f3760$1@linux...
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi,
> >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I try to =
put a
=3D
>
> >>> > stereo
> >>> > native
> >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix when I try to save I =
=3D
>always
> > get
> >>> > assertion
> >>> > failed and cannot save either on same name or other...
> >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as I did =
before
=3D
>but
> >>don't
> >>> > know why Paris doesn't let to...
> >>> > Regards,
> >>> > Dimitrios
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >=3D20
>
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rendering is your answer. Don't =
=3D
>render tracks=3D20
>with plugins. In stereo the right side </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT =
face=3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D2>have any=3D20
>effect. Double check to see that their timing is correct =3D
>too.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Some people have problems with =
=3D
>that.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D
>href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D20
> wrote in message <A=3D20
> =
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=3D
>you have=3D20
> the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look after that =
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=3D
>
> stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will do the =
job =3D
><BR>when=3D20
> saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if something =
are =3D
><BR>going=3D20
> wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of =
the=3D20
> <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in version =
2,
=3D
>when=3D20
> <BR>mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and right =
and =3D
>muting=3D20
> all <BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the project =
again
=3D
>on their=3D20
> old <BR>places and give them new =3D
>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>"Dimitrios"=3D20
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Fri, 02 December 2005 07:53 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
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>href=3D3D"news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&g=
=3D
>t;=3D20
> Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have managed is to =
=3D
>have=3D20
> the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by cutting at =
=3D
>cursor=3D20
> pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =
=3D
>themhas=3D20
> different cut points and <BR>> joint<BR>> points , does this=3D20
> matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not =
=3D
>actually=3D20
> stereo but<BR>> two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D
>tomove=3D20
> different parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to =3D
>make them=3D20
> on time.<BR>> I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the =3D
>stereo=3D20
> perspective of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and hard=3D20
> right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening =3D
>knob ??=3D20
> !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =
=3D
>not like=3D20
> waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D20
> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the =3D
>stereo=3D20
> file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the =3D
>sample=3D20
> (the furthest down you can go on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D20
> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
=3D
>message <A=3D20
> =3D
>href=3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>>>> =3D
>Is it=3D20
> exactly the same length on each stereo files or no different=3D20
> holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the stereo=3D20
> objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev =
i =3D
>melding=3D20
> <BR>>>> <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=3D=
>t;=3D20
> ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D
>finished my=3D20
> project mixing and when I try to put a <BR>>>> >=3D20
> stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > effect on any =3D
>audio=3D20
> track on any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =3D
>get<BR>>>>=3D20
> > assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on =3D
>same name=3D20
> or other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use =3D
>stereo=3D20
> effects as I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know =3D
>why=3D20
> Paris doesn't let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D
>>=3D20
> =3D
>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>=3D
>=3D20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are you saying you can save before this =
stereo=20
plugin</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is inserted? I'd say you may have =
a rouge=20
plugin that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>your wrapper or Paris just doesn't =
like. Try=20
the same thing</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in a different project. ie: Same =
stereo=20
plugin inserted</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on another stereo pair of tracks. =
Now can you=20
save?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If so it may be your project. If =
not it's=20
probably your plugin.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
message=20
<A =
href=3D"news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
ks=20
for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware method via =
adat=20
and achieved one nice<BR>compact stereo track with my acoustic =
guitars, I even=20
saved all audio files<BR>on new folder and saved under new name I used =
the=20
clear missing files just<BR>before that but again no luck when I =
put a=20
stereo native effect on this stereotrack<BR>even without hitting =
play =20
when I try to save assertion fails and doesn't<BR>allow of any save =
!<BR>Note=20
that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve=20
...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR >>Rendering is your=20
answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In=20
stereo<BR>=3D<BR>>the right side=3D20<BR>>won't have any =
effect. =20
Double check to see that their timing is =
correct<BR>=3D<BR>>too.<BR>>Some=20
people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>> "erlilo" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
There=20
you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =
=3D<BR>>after=20
that=3D20<BR>> each stereopair is starting and ending at the =
same=20
places will do the<BR>=3D<BR>>job=3D20<BR>> when saving =
under a new=20
name, just to be sure to go back if =
something<BR>=3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> =20
going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of=20
=3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> stereofiles, you can rendering the =
old, hard=20
way, as in version 2, =3D<BR>>when=3D20<BR>> mixing down =
each=20
stereopair with panning hard left and right and =3D<BR>>muting=20
all=3D20<BR>> other tracks. Then you can import them into the =
project=20
again on their<BR>=3D<BR>>old=3D20<BR>> places and give =
them new=20
names.<BR>><BR>> Erling<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
"Dimitrios"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
skrev i=20
melding =3D<BR>>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>> =
><BR>> =20
> Hi,<BR>> > Thanks for your replies.<BR>> =
> What I=20
have managed is to have the same start and end for both=20
audio<BR>=3D<BR>>files<BR>> > just by cutting at cursor =
pointy on=20
both tracks.<BR>> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =
themhas=20
different cut points<BR>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>> > =
joint<BR>> =20
> points , does this matter?<BR>> > If you ask me why =
it is=20
because these tracks are not actually =
stereo<BR>=3D<BR>>but<BR>> =20
> two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different=20
parts<BR>=3D<BR>>on=3D20<BR>> > each<BR>> > =
of the=20
"stereo" tracks to make them on time.<BR>> > I want a =
stereo=20
effect because I wanna expand the stereo=20
perspective<BR>=3D<BR>>of=3D20<BR>> > =
them<BR>> >=20
pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>> > Have you tried =
T-racks=20
compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!<BR>> > Amazing =
stereo=20
result with complete mono compatibility , not like=20
=3D<BR>>waves=3D20<BR>> > imager<BR>> > at=20
all...<BR>> > Cheers,<BR>> > =
DImitrios<BR>> =20
><BR>> ><BR>> > "Ennio" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both =
sides of=20
the stereo file must<BR>=3D<BR>>be<BR>> > =
at<BR>> =20
>>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down you =
can=20
=3D<BR>>go on<BR>> > the<BR>> >>zoom=20
tool)<BR>> >><BR>> >>"erlilo" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
href=3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>> =20
>>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no=20
different<BR>=3D<BR>>holes<BR>> >>in<BR>> =20
>>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>> =20
>>><BR>> >>> Erling<BR>> =20
>>><BR>> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i=20
melding=3D20<BR>> >>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=20
>>> ><BR>> >>> > Hi,<BR>> =20
>>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I =
try to=20
put a<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>> >>> > =
stereo<BR>> =20
>>> > native<BR>> >>> > effect on any =
audio=20
track on any submix when I try to save I =
=3D<BR>>always<BR>> >=20
get<BR>> >>> > assertion<BR>> =
>>> >=20
failed and cannot save either on same name or other...<BR>> =20
>>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as =
I did=20
before<BR>=3D<BR>>but<BR>> >>don't<BR>> =
>>>=20
> know why Paris doesn't let to...<BR>> >>> >=20
Regards,<BR>> >>> > Dimitrios<BR>> =20
>>><BR>> >>><BR>> =
>><BR>> =20
>><BR>> =
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=3D<BR>>render=20
tracks=3D20<BR>>with plugins. In stereo the right side=20
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size=3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial =
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any=3D20<BR>>effect. Double check to see that their timing is =
correct=20
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size=3D3D2>Some people have problems with=20
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>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
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<<A=20
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D20'>mailto:erlil=
o@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D20</A><BR>> =20
wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>There'>n=
ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=
ere</A><BR>=3D<BR>>you=20
have=3D20<BR>> the problem. I think rendering the tracks and =
look after=20
that <BR>each<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>> stereopair is =
starting and=20
ending at the same places will do the job=20
=3D<BR>><BR>when=3D20<BR>> saving under a new name, =
just to be=20
sure to go back if something are =
=3D<BR>><BR>going=3D20<BR>> =20
wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of=20
the=3D20<BR>> <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the =
old, hard=20
way, as in version 2,<BR>=3D<BR>>when=3D20<BR>> =
<BR>mixing down=20
each stereopair with panning hard left and right and=20
=3D<BR>>muting=3D20<BR>> all <BR>other tracks. Then =
you can=20
import them into the project again<BR>=3D<BR>>on =
their=3D20<BR>> old=20
<BR>places and give them new=20
=
=3D<BR> >names.<BR><BR>Erling& ;lt;BR><BR><BR>=
"Dimitrios"=3D20<BR>> =20
<<A href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>>skrev i=3D20<BR>> melding <A=3D20<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=
><BR>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20 <BR>> =20
Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have =
managed=20
is to =3D<BR>>have=3D20<BR>> the same start and end for =
both audio=20
files<BR>> just by cutting at =
=3D<BR>>cursor=3D20<BR>> pointy=20
on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each of=20
=3D<BR>>themhas=3D20<BR>> different cut points and =
<BR>>=20
joint<BR>> points , does this=3D20<BR>> =
matter?<BR>>=20
If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not=20
=3D<BR>>actually=3D20<BR>> stereo but<BR>> two =
takes of=20
acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D<BR>>tomove=3D20<BR>> =
different=20
parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to=20
=3D<BR>>make them=3D20<BR>> on time.<BR>> I want =
a stereo=20
effect because I wanna expand the =3D<BR>>stereo=3D20<BR>> =
perspective=20
of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and=20
hard=3D20<BR>> right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks =
compressor's=20
stereo widening =3D<BR>>knob ??=3D20<BR>> !!<BR>> =
Amazing=20
stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =3D<BR>>not=20
like=3D20<BR>> waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at=20
all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
DImitrios<BR>><BR>> ;<BR>> "Ennio"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:e=
nnio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>>&n=
bsp;=20
wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides =
of the=20
=3D<BR>>stereo=3D20<BR>> file must be<BR>>=20
at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the=20
=3D<BR>>sample=3D20<BR>> (the furthest down you can go=20
on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D20<BR>> =20
tool)<BR>>><BR>&am p;gt;> "erlilo" =
<<A=3D20<BR>> =20
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=20
wrote in =3D<BR>>message <A=3D20<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f4d36=
@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=20
=3D<BR>>Is it=3D20<BR>> exactly the same length on each =
stereo files=20
or no different=3D20<BR>> =20
holes<BR>>>in<BR>& amp;gt;>> any of the=20
stereo=3D20<BR>> =20
=
objects?<BR>>>><BR >>>>=3D20 <BR>> =20
Erling<BR>>>><BR&a mp;gt;>>> "Dimitrios"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
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;>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have =
almost=20
=3D<BR>>finished my=3D20<BR>> project mixing and when I =
try to put a=20
<BR>>>> >=3D20<BR>> =
stereo<BR>>>> >=20
native<BR>>>> > effect on any=20
=3D<BR>>audio=3D20<BR>> track on any submix when I try to =
save I=20
always<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>get<BR>>>>=3D20 <BR>> >=20
assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on=20
=3D<BR>>same name=3D20<BR>> or =
other...<BR>>>> > The=20
problem is that I want to use =3D<BR>>stereo=3D20<BR>> =
effects as I=20
did before but<BR>>>don't<BR> >>> > know=20
=3D<BR>>why=3D20<BR>> Paris doesn't let =
to...<BR>>>>=20
> Regards,<BR>>>> =3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =
=
=3D<BR> >Dimitrios<BR>>>>& amp;lt;BR>>>><BR>=
;>><BR>>><B R>>=3D <BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C5F72E.9D1B5E60--Hi All
Dumb Q time...
I've got a little side project from a friend, nothing fancy just a quick mix
of his band's live show but I don't want to spend any more time than is
necessary on this thing.
My question has to do with reducing the level of the the lead vocal mic when
it's not in use.
Normally I would just drop the fader 3db or so on that mic when it's not in
use but I started wondering if there is a plug in i.e. an expander or ducker
for example (never having used either of these beasts) that might do this
automatically.
Thanks in advance
DonJamie K wrote:
>
> My old PARIS Intel box has became my Linux/BeOS box.
Heh. "Has became." I gotta start drinking coffee.
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.comNot anymore! ;-)
David.
John wrote:
> so you're the one with all the cash!
>
> Jeremy Luzier wrote:
>
>> let me do a DJ sinister laugh as i rub my hands together....
>>
>> muuuuuhahahahahahaha!
>>
>> just ordered....
>>
>> LTD-1
>> Calrec PQ1161 pair
>> la3a vintage
>> la2a 60's vintage
>> 33609 j/d :-)
>> TG-1
>> EL8X-S
>>
>> muuuuuuuuuhahahahahahaha!!!
>>
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>A gate with key filtering would do this. Set the key filters so the
gate only opens with vocal content, then set the range to a fairly
small amount. This means that the gate does not close completely, but
only dips the level down a few db when the person stops singing.
David.
Don Nafe wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Dumb Q time...
>
> I've got a little side project from a friend, nothing fancy just a quick mix
> of his band's live show but I don't want to spend any more time than is
> necessary on this thing.
>
> My question has to do with reducing the level of the the lead vocal mic when
> it's not in use.
>
> Normally I would just drop the fader 3db or so on that mic when it's not in
> use but I started wondering if there is a plug in i.e. an expander or ducker
> for example (never having used either of these beasts) that might do this
> automatically.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Don
>
>Unfortunately the bleed is so loud and his voice level so inconsistant that
using a gate is not usefull.
I have basically decided to automate a 8 db ramp up to and down from the
vocal sections and then copy and paste through the songs...quick simple and
a pain in the ass.
Don
"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
news:4390784b$1@linux...
>A gate with key filtering would do this. Set the key filters so the gate
>only opens with vocal content, then set the range to a fairly small amount.
>This means that the gate does not close completely, but only dips the level
>down a few db when the person stops singing.
>
> David.
>
> Don Nafe wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> Dumb Q time...
>>
>> I've got a little side project from a friend, nothing fancy just a quick
>> mix of his band's live show but I don't want to spend any more time than
>> is necessary on this thing.
>>
>> My question has to do with reducing the level of the the lead vocal mic
>> when it's not in use.
>>
>> Normally I would just drop the fader 3db or so on that mic when it's not
>> in use but I started wondering if there is a plug in i.e. an expander or
>> ducker for example (never having used either of these beasts) that might
>> do this automatically.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> DonDear Tom,
It is not the plugin under other song I can open a stereo native effect.
In my project I cannot open ANY stereo effect.
Even chainer only...
I can save my project no problem if I don't use a stereo native effect.
ALSO on submix 3 I managed toopen a stereo native effect but not on submix
1 or 4 , any suggestion ?
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Dimitrios,
>Are you saying you can save before this stereo plugin
>is inserted? I'd say you may have a rouge plugin that
>your wrapper or Paris just doesn't like. Try the same thing
>in a different project. ie: Same stereo plugin inserted
>on another stereo pair of tracks. Now can you save?
>If so it may be your project. If not it's probably your plugin.
>
>Good luck,
>Tom
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
>news:43906b78$1@linux...
>
> Thanks for your suggestions.
> I have rendered using the hardware method via adat and achieved one =
>nice
> compact stereo track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved all audio
=
>files
> on new folder and saved under new name I used the clear missing files
=
>just
> before that but again no luck when I put a stereo native effect on =
>this stereotrack
> even without hitting play when I try to save assertion fails and =
>doesn't
> allow of any save !
> Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve ...
> rEGARDS,
> dIMITRIOS
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Dimitrios,
> >Rendering is your answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In =
>stereo
> =3D
> >the right side=3D20
> >won't have any effect. Double check to see that their timing is =
>correct
> =3D
> >too.
> >Some people have problems with that.
> >Tom
> > "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =
>news:43900b57$1@linux...
> > There you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =
>=3D
> >after that=3D20
> > each stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will do =
>the
> =3D
> >job=3D20
> > when saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if =
>something
> =3D
> >are=3D20
> > going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some =
>of =3D
> >the=3D20
> > stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in version 2,
=
>=3D
> >when=3D20
> > mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and right and =
>=3D
> >muting all=3D20
> > other tracks. Then you can import them into the project again on =
>their
> =3D
> >old=3D20
> > places and give them new names.
> >
> > Erling
> >
> >
> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding =3D
> >news:439000f1$1@linux...
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > Thanks for your replies.
> > > What I have managed is to have the same start and end for both =
>audio
> =3D
> >files
> > > just by cutting at cursor pointy on both tracks.
> > > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of themhas different cut =
>points
> =3D
> >and=3D20
> > > joint
> > > points , does this matter?
> > > If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not actually =
>stereo
> =3D
> >but
> > > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different =
>parts
> =3D
> >on=3D20
> > > each
> > > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on time.
> > > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the stereo =
>perspective
> =3D
> >of=3D20
> > > them
> > > pl;aying hard left and hard right.
> > > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!
> > > Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility , not like
=
>=3D
> >waves=3D20
> > > imager
> > > at all...
> > > Cheers,
> > > DImitrios
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ennio" <ennio@galicorp.net> wrote:
> > >>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the stereo file =
>must
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ces will do the =
>job =3D
> ><BR>when=3D20
> > saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if something =
>are =3D
> ><BR>going=3D20
> > wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of =
>the=3D20
> > <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in version
=
>2,
> =3D
> >when=3D20
> > <BR>mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and right =
>and =3D
> >muting=3D20
> > all <BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the project =
>again
> =3D
> >on their=3D20
> > old <BR>places and give them new =3D
> >names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>"Dimitrios"=3D20
> > <<A href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
>=3D
> >skrev i=3D20
> > melding <A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&g=
>=3D
> >t;=3D20
> > Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have managed is to =
>=3D
> >have=3D20
> > the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by cutting at
=
>=3D
> >cursor=3D20
> > pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each of
=
>=3D
> >themhas=3D20
> > different cut points and <BR>> joint<BR>> points , does this=3D20
> > matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not =
>=3D
> >actually=3D20
> > stereo but<BR>> two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D
> >tomove=3D20
> > different parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to =3D
> >make them=3D20
> > on time.<BR>> I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the =3D
> >stereo=3D20
> > perspective of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and hard=3D20
> > right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening =3D
> >knob ??=3D20
> > !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =
>=3D
> >not like=3D20
> > waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D20
> > DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the =3D
> >stereo=3D20
> > file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the =3D
> >sample=3D20
> > (the furthest down you can go on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D20
> > tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
>=3D
> >message <A=3D20
> > =3D
> >href=3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>>>> =3D
> >Is it=3D20
> > exactly the same length on each stereo files or no different=3D20
> > holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the stereo=3D20
> > objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> > Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev
=
>i =3D
> >melding=3D20
> > <BR>>>> <A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=3D=
>
> >t;=3D20
> > ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D
> >finished my=3D20
> > project mixing and when I try to put a <BR>>>> >=3D20
> > stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > effect on any =3D
> >audio=3D20
> > track on any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =3D
> >get<BR>>>>=3D20
> > > assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on =3D
> >same name=3D20
> > or other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use =3D
> >stereo=3D20
> > effects as I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know =3D
> >why=3D20
> > Paris doesn't let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D
> >>=3D20
> > =3D
> >Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>=3D
> >=3D20
> > <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
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><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are you saying you can save before this
=
>stereo=20
>plugin</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is inserted? I'd say you may have =
>a rouge=20
>plugin that</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>your wrapper or Paris just doesn't =
>like. Try=20
>the same thing</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in a different project. ie: Same =
>stereo=20
>plugin inserted</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on another stereo pair of tracks. =
>Now can you=20
>save?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If so it may be your project. If =
>not it's=20
>probably your plugin.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
>message=20
> <A =
>href=3D"news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>ks=20
> for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware method via
=
>adat=20
> and achieved one nice<BR>compact stereo track with my acoustic =
>guitars, I even=20
> saved all audio files<BR>on new folder and saved under new name I used
=
>the=20
> clear missing files just<BR>before that but again no luck when I =
>put a=20
> stereo native effect on this stereotrack<BR>even without hitting =
>play =20
> when I try to save assertion fails and doesn't<BR>allow of any save =
>!<BR>Note=20
> that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve=20
> ...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>Rendering is your=20
> answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In=20
> stereo<BR>=3D<BR>>the right side=3D20<BR>>won't have any =
>effect. =20
> Double check to see that their timing is =
>correct<BR>=3D<BR>>too.<BR>>Some=20
> people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>> "erlilo" =
><<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
>message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
> There=20
> you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =
>=3D<BR>>after=20
> that=3D20<BR>> each stereopair is starting and ending at the =
>same=20
> places will do the<BR>=3D<BR>>job=3D20<BR>> when saving =
>under a new=20
> name, just to be sure to go back if =
>something<BR>=3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> =20
> going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of=20
> =3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> stereofiles, you can rendering the =
>old, hard=20
> way, as in version 2, =3D<BR>>when=3D20<BR>> mixing down =
>each=20
> stereopair with panning hard left and right and =3D<BR>>muting=20
> all=3D20<BR>> other tracks. Then you can import them into the =
>project=20
> again on their<BR>=3D<BR>>old=3D20<BR>> places and give =
>them new=20
> names.<BR>><BR>> Erling<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
>"Dimitrios"=20
> <<A href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
>skrev i=20
> melding =3D<BR>>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>> =
>><BR>> =20
> > Hi,<BR>> > Thanks for your replies.<BR>> =
>> What I=20
> have managed is to have the same start and end for both=20
> audio<BR>=3D<BR>>files<BR>> > just by cutting at cursor =
>pointy on=20
> both tracks.<BR>> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =
>themhas=20
> different cut points<BR>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>> > =
>joint<BR>> =20
> > points , does this matter?<BR>> > If you ask me why =
>it is=20
> because these tracks are not actually =
>stereo<BR>=3D<BR>>but<BR>> =20
> > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different=20
> parts<BR>=3D<BR>>on=3D20<BR>> > each<BR>> > =
>of the=20
> "stereo" tracks to make them on time.<BR>> > I want a =
>stereo=20
> effect because I wanna expand the stereo=20
> perspective<BR>=3D<BR>>of=3D20<BR>> > =
>them<BR>> >=20
> pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>> > Have you tried =
>T-racks=20
> compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!<BR>> > Amazing =
>stereo=20
> result with complete mono compatibility , not like=20
> =3D<BR>>waves=3D20<BR>> > imager<BR>> > at=20
> all...<BR>> > Cheers,<BR>> > =
>DImitrios<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> ><BR>> > "Ennio" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both =
>sides of=20
> the stereo file must<BR>=3D<BR>>be<BR>> > =
>at<BR>> =20
> >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down you =
>can=20
> =3D<BR>>go on<BR>> > the<BR>> >>zoom=20
> tool)<BR>> >><BR>> >>"erlilo" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
>message <A=20
> href=3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>> =20
> >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no=20
> different<BR>=3D<BR>>holes<BR>> >>in<BR>> =20
> >>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>> =20
> >>><BR>> >>> Erling<BR>> =20
> >>><BR>> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i=20
> melding=3D20<BR>> >>> <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>=20
> >>> ><BR>> >>> > Hi,<BR>> =20
> >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I =
>try to=20
> put a<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>> >>> > =
>stereo<BR>> =20
> >>> > native<BR>> >>> > effect on any =
>audio=20
> track on any submix when I try to save I =
>=3D<BR>>always<BR>> >=20
> get<BR>> >>> > assertion<BR>> =
>>>> >=20
> failed and cannot save either on same name or other...<BR>> =20
> >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as =
>I did=20
> before<BR>=3D<BR>>but<BR>> >>don't<BR>> =
>>>>=20
> > know why Paris doesn't let to...<BR>> >>> >=20
> Regards,<BR>> >>> > Dimitrios<BR>> =20
> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> =
>>><BR>> =20
> >><BR>> =
>>=3D20<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=20
> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
> =
>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>D><BR>><BODY=20
> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=
>ONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rendering is your answer. Don't =
>=3D<BR>>render=20
> tracks=3D20<BR>>with plugins. In stereo the right side=20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>=3D<BR>>size=3D3D2>have=20
> any=3D20<BR>>effect. Double check to see that their timing is =
>correct=20
> =3D<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Some people have problems with=20
> =3D<BR>>that.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>=
>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
>#000000 2px=20
> solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"erlilo" =
><<A=20
> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D20'>mailto:erlil=
>o@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D20</A><BR>> =20
> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>There'>n=
>ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=
>ere</A><BR>=3D<BR>>you=20
> have=3D20<BR>> the problem. I think rendering the tracks and =
>look after=20
> that <BR>each<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>> stereopair is =
>starting and=20
> ending at the same places will do the job=20
> =3D<BR>><BR>when=3D20<BR>> saving under a new name, =
>just to be=20
> sure to go back if something are =
>=3D<BR>><BR>going=3D20<BR>> =20
> wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of=20
> the=3D20<BR>> <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the =
>old, hard=20
> way, as in version 2,<BR>=3D<BR>>when=3D20<BR>> =
><BR>mixing down=20
> each stereopair with panning hard left and right and=20
> =3D<BR>>muting=3D20<BR>> all <BR>other tracks. Then =
>you can=20
> import them into the project again<BR>=3D<BR>>on =
>their=3D20<BR>> old=20
> <BR>places and give them new=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>=
>"Dimitrios"=3D20<BR>> =20
> <<A href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>skrev i=3D20<BR>> melding <A=3D20<BR>> =
>
> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
>g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=
>><BR>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
> Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have =
>managed=20
> is to =3D<BR>>have=3D20<BR>> the same start and end for =
>both audio=20
> files<BR>> just by cutting at =
>=3D<BR>>cursor=3D20<BR>> pointy=20
> on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each of=20
> =3D<BR>>themhas=3D20<BR>> different cut points and =
><BR>>=20
> joint<BR>> points , does this=3D20<BR>> =
>matter?<BR>>=20
> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not=20
> =3D<BR>>actually=3D20<BR>> stereo but<BR>> two =
>takes of=20
> acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D<BR>>tomove=3D20<BR>> =
>different=20
> parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to=20
> =3D<BR>>make them=3D20<BR>> on time.<BR>> I want =
>a stereo=20
> effect because I wanna expand the =3D<BR>>stereo=3D20<BR>> =
>perspective=20
> of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and=20
> hard=3D20<BR>> right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks =
>compressor's=20
> stereo widening =3D<BR>>knob ??=3D20<BR>> !!<BR>> =
>Amazing=20
> stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =3D<BR>>not=20
> like=3D20<BR>> waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at=20
> all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:e=
>nnio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>>&n=
>bsp;=20
> wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides =
>of the=20
> =3D<BR>>stereo=3D20<BR>> file must be<BR>>=20
> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the=20
> =3D<BR>>sample=3D20<BR>> (the furthest down you can go=20
> on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D20<BR>> =20
> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" =
><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=20
> wrote in =3D<BR>>message <A=3D20<BR>> =
>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f4d36=
>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>Is it=3D20<BR>> exactly the same length on each =
>stereo files=20
> or no different=3D20<BR>> =20
> holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the=20
> stereo=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
> skrev i =3D<BR>>melding=3D20<BR>> <BR>>>>=20
> <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g'>=
>news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=
>;>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
> ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have =
>almost=20
> =3D<BR>>finished my=3D20<BR>> project mixing and when I =
>try to put a=20
> <BR>>>> >=3D20<BR>> =
>stereo<BR>>>> >=20
> native<BR>>>> > effect on any=20
> =3D<BR>>audio=3D20<BR>> track on any submix when I try to =
>save I=20
> always<BR>> =
>=3D<BR>>get<BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> >=20
> assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on=20
> =3D<BR>>same name=3D20<BR>> or =
>other...<BR>>>> > The=20
> problem is that I want to use =3D<BR>>stereo=3D20<BR>> =
>effects as I=20
> did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know=20
> =3D<BR>>why=3D20<BR>> Paris doesn't let =
>to...<BR>>>>=20
> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =
>
> =
>=3D<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>=
>;>><BR>>><BR>>=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR>>=
><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>
>Dimitrios, You probably know this, but just to make sure...
If you want to use stereo native plugins, you can NOT have any mono plugins
on those tracks. That goes for native and EDS.
Do you have any mono eds or native plugs also on the stereo pair?
Rod
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Dear Tom,
>It is not the plugin under other song I can open a stereo native effect.
>In my project I cannot open ANY stereo effect.
>Even chainer only...
>I can save my project no problem if I don't use a stereo native effect.
>ALSO on submix 3 I managed toopen a stereo native effect but not on submix
>1 or 4 , any suggestion ?
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Dimitrios,
>>Are you saying you can save before this stereo plugin
>>is inserted? I'd say you may have a rouge plugin that
>>your wrapper or Paris just doesn't like. Try the same thing
>>in a different project. ie: Same stereo plugin inserted
>>on another stereo pair of tracks. Now can you save?
>>If so it may be your project. If not it's probably your plugin.
>>
>>Good luck,
>>Tom
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
>>news:43906b78$1@linux...
>>
>> Thanks for your suggestions.
>> I have rendered using the hardware method via adat and achieved one =
>>nice
>> compact stereo track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved all audio
>=
>>files
>> on new folder and saved under new name I used the clear missing files
>=
>>just
>> before that but again no luck when I put a stereo native effect on =
>>this stereotrack
>> even without hitting play when I try to save assertion fails and =
>>doesn't
>> allow of any save !
>> Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve ...
>> rEGARDS,
>> dIMITRIOS
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Dimitrios,
>> >Rendering is your answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In =
>>stereo
>> =3D
>> >the right side=3D20
>> >won't have any effect. Double check to see that their timing is =
>>correct
>> =3D
>> >too.
>> >Some people have problems with that.
>> >Tom
>> > "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =
>>news:43900b57$1@linux...
>> > There you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look
=
>>=3D
>> >after that=3D20
>> > each stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will do
=
>>the
>> =3D
>> >job=3D20
>> > when saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if =
>>something
>> =3D
>> >are=3D20
>> > going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some
=
>>of =3D
>> >the=3D20
>> > stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in version 2,
>=
>>=3D
>> >when=3D20
>> > mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and right and =
>>=3D
>> >muting all=3D20
>> > other tracks. Then you can import them into the project again on =
>>their
>> =3D
>> >old=3D20
>> > places and give them new names.
>> >
>> > Erling
>> >
>> >
>> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding =3D
>> >news:439000f1$1@linux...
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > > Thanks for your replies.
>> > > What I have managed is to have the same start and end for both =
>>audio
>> =3D
>> >files
>> > > just by cutting at cursor pointy on both tracks.
>> > > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of themhas different cut =
>>points
>> =3D
>> >and=3D20
>> > > joint
>> > > points , does this matter?
>> > > If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not actually =
>>stereo
>> =3D
>> >but
>> > > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different =
>>parts
>> =3D
>> >on=3D20
>> > > each
>> > > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on time.
>> > > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the stereo =
>>perspective
>> =3D
>> >of=3D20
>> > > them
>> > > pl;aying hard left and hard right.
>> > > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!
>> > > Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility , not like
>=
>>=3D
>> >waves=3D20
>> > > imager
>> > > at all...
>> > > Cheers,
>> > > DImitrios
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Ennio" <ennio@galicorp.net> wrote:
>> > >>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the stereo file
=
>>must
>> =3D
>> >be
>> > > at
>> > >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down you =
>>can =3D
>> >go on
>> > > the
>> > >>zoom tool)
>> > >>
>> > >>"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =
>>news:438f4d36@linux...
>> > >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no =
>>different
>> =3D
>> >holes
>> > >>in
>> > >>> any of the stereo objects?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Erling
>> > >>>
>> > >>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding=3D20
>> > >>> news:438f3760$1@linux...
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Hi,
>> > >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I try to =
>>put a
>> =3D
>> >
>> > >>> > stereo
>> > >>> > native
>> > >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix when I try to save I
>=
>>=3D
>> >always
>> > > get
>> > >>> > assertion
>> > >>> > failed and cannot save either on same name or other...
>> > >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as I did =
>>before
>> =3D
>> >but
>> > >>don't
>> > >>> > know why Paris doesn't let to...
>> > >>> > Regards,
>> > >>> > Dimitrios
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >=3D20
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>> ></HEAD>
>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rendering is your answer. Don't
>=
>>=3D
>> >render tracks=3D20
>> >with plugins. In stereo the right side </FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT =
>>face=3D3DArial =3D
>> >size=3D3D2>have any=3D20
>> >effect. Double check to see that their timing is correct =3D
>> >too.</FONT></DIV>
>> >&
|
|
|
|
| Re: Bizzare_assertion_fail_problem_any_insight? [message #60863 is a reply to message #60862] |
Fri, 02 December 2005 10:24 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
lt;DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Some people have problems with
=
>>=3D
>> >that.</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
=
>>=3D
>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> > <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D
>> >href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D20
>> > wrote in message <A=3D20
>> > =
>>href=3D3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>There
>> =3D
>> >you have=3D20
>> > the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look after that =
>><BR>each
>> =3D
>> >
>> > stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will do the =
>>job =3D
>> ><BR>when=3D20
>> > saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if something =
>>are =3D
>> ><BR>going=3D20
>> > wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of =
>>the=3D20
>> > <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in version
>=
>>2,
>> =3D
>> >when=3D20
>> > <BR>mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and right =
>>and =3D
>> >muting=3D20
>> > all <BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the project =
>>again
>> =3D
>> >on their=3D20
>> > old <BR>places and give them new =3D
>> >names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>"Dimitrios"=3D20
>> > <<A href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
>>=3D
>> >skrev i=3D20
>> > melding <A=3D20
>> > =3D
>> =
>>>href=3D3D"news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&g=
>>=3D
>> >t;=3D20
>> > Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have managed is to =
>>=3D
>> >have=3D20
>> > the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by cutting at
>=
>>=3D
>> >cursor=3D20
>> > pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each of
>=
>>=3D
>> >themhas=3D20
>> > different cut points and <BR>> joint<BR>> points , does this=3D20
>> > matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not
=
>>=3D
>> >actually=3D20
>> > stereo but<BR>> two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D
>> >tomove=3D20
>> > different parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to =3D
>> >make them=3D20
>> > on time.<BR>> I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the =3D
>> >stereo=3D20
>> > perspective of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and hard=3D20
>> > right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening =3D
>> >knob ??=3D20
>> > !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =
>>=3D
>> >not like=3D20
>> > waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D20
>> > DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio" <<A=3D20
>> > href=3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20
>> > wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the =3D
>> >stereo=3D20
>> > file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the =3D
>> >sample=3D20
>> > (the furthest down you can go on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D20
>> > tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" <<A=3D20
>> > href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in
=
>>=3D
>> >message <A=3D20
>> > =3D
>> >href=3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>>>> =3D
>> >Is it=3D20
>> > exactly the same length on each stereo files or no different=3D20
>> > holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the stereo=3D20
>> > objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
>> > Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
>> > href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev
>=
>>i =3D
>> >melding=3D20
>> > <BR>>>> <A=3D20
>> > =3D
>> =
>>>href=3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=3D=
>>
>> >t;=3D20
>> > ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D
>> >finished my=3D20
>> > project mixing and when I try to put a <BR>>>> >=3D20
>> > stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > effect on any =3D
>> >audio=3D20
>> > track on any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =3D
>> >get<BR>>>>=3D20
>> > > assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on =3D
>> >same name=3D20
>> > or other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use =3D
>> >stereo=3D20
>> > effects as I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know =3D
>> >why=3D20
>> > Paris doesn't let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D
>> >>=3D20
>> > =3D
>> >Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>=3D
>> >=3D20
>> > <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>><HTML><HEAD>
>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>><STYLE></STYLE>
>></HEAD>
>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are you saying you can save before this
>=
>>stereo=20
>>plugin</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is inserted? I'd say you may have =
>>a rouge=20
>>plugin that</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>your wrapper or Paris just doesn't =
>>like. Try=20
>>the same thing</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in a different project. ie: Same =
>>stereo=20
>>plugin inserted</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on another stereo pair of tracks. =
>>Now can you=20
>>save?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If so it may be your project. If =
>>not it's=20
>>probably your plugin.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
>>message=20
>> <A =
>>href=3D"news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>>ks=20
>> for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware method via
>=
>>adat=20
>> and achieved one nice<BR>compact stereo track with my acoustic =
>>guitars, I even=20
>> saved all audio files<BR>on new folder and saved under new name I used
>=
>>the=20
>> clear missing files just<BR>before that but again no luck when I =
>>put a=20
>> stereo native effect on this stereotrack<BR>even without hitting =
>>play =20
>> when I try to save assertion fails and doesn't<BR>allow of any save =
>>!<BR>Note=20
>> that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve=20
>> ...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>Rendering is your=20
>> answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In=20
>> stereo<BR>=3D<BR>>the right side=3D20<BR>>won't have any =
>>effect. =20
>> Double check to see that their timing is =
>>correct<BR>=3D<BR>>too.<BR>>Some=20
>> people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>> "erlilo" =
>><<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
>>message <A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>> There=20
>> you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =
>>=3D<BR>>after=20
>> that=3D20<BR>> each stereopair is starting and ending at the =
>>same=20
>> places will do the<BR>=3D<BR>>job=3D20<BR>> when saving =
>>under a new=20
>> name, just to be sure to go back if =
>>something<BR>=3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> =20
>> going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of=20
>> =3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> stereofiles, you can rendering the =
>>old, hard=20
>> way, as in version 2, =3D<BR>>when=3D20<BR>> mixing down =
>>each=20
>> stereopair with panning hard left and right and =3D<BR>>muting=20
>> all=3D20<BR>> other tracks. Then you can import them into the =
>>project=20
>> again on their<BR>=3D<BR>>old=3D20<BR>> places and give =
>>them new=20
>> names.<BR>><BR>> Erling<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
>>"Dimitrios"=20
>> <<A href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
>>skrev i=20
>> melding =3D<BR>>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>> =
>>><BR>> =20
>> > Hi,<BR>> > Thanks for your replies.<BR>> =
>>> What I=20
>> have managed is to have the same start and end for both=20
>> audio<BR>=3D<BR>>files<BR>> > just by cutting at cursor =
>>pointy on=20
>> both tracks.<BR>> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =
>>themhas=20
>> different cut points<BR>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>> > =
>>joint<BR>> =20
>> > points , does this matter?<BR>> > If you ask me why =
>>it is=20
>> because these tracks are not actually =
>>stereo<BR>=3D<BR>>but<BR>> =20
>> > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different=20
>> parts<BR>=3D<BR>>on=3D20<BR>> > each<BR>> > =
>>of the=20
>> "stereo" tracks to make them on time.<BR>> > I want a =
>>stereo=20
>> effect because I wanna expand the stereo=20
>> perspective<BR>=3D<BR>>of=3D20<BR>> > =
>>them<BR>> >=20
>> pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>> > Have you tried =
>>T-racks=20
>> compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!<BR>> > Amazing =
>>stereo=20
>> result with complete mono compatibility , not like=20
>> =3D<BR>>waves=3D20<BR>> > imager<BR>> > at=20
>> all...<BR>> > Cheers,<BR>> > =
>>DImitrios<BR>> =20
>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > "Ennio" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both =
>>sides of=20
>> the stereo file must<BR>=3D<BR>>be<BR>> > =
>>at<BR>> =20
>> >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down you =
>>can=20
>> =3D<BR>>go on<BR>> > the<BR>> >>zoom=20
>> tool)<BR>> >><BR>> >>"erlilo" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
>>message <A=20
>> href=3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>> =20
>> >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no=20
>> different<BR>=3D<BR>>holes<BR>> >>in<BR>> =20
>> >>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>> =20
>> >>><BR>> >>> Erling<BR>> =20
>> >>><BR>> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i=20
>> melding=3D20<BR>> >>> <A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>=20
>> >>> ><BR>> >>> > Hi,<BR>> =20
>> >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I =
>>try to=20
>> put a<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>> >>> > =
>>stereo<BR>> =20
>> >>> > native<BR>> >>> > effect on any =
>>audio=20
>> track on any submix when I try to save I =
>>=3D<BR>>always<BR>> >=20
>> get<BR>> >>> > assertion<BR>> =
>>>>> >=20
>> failed and cannot save either on same name or other...<BR>> =20
>> >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as =
>>I did=20
>> before<BR>=3D<BR>>but<BR>> >>don't<BR>> =
>>>>>=20
>> > know why Paris doesn't let to...<BR>> >>> >=20
>> Regards,<BR>> >>> > Dimitrios<BR>> =20
>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> =
>>>><BR>> =20
>> >><BR>> =
>>>=3D20<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=20
>> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
>> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
>> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
>> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
>> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
>> =
>>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>>D><BR>><BODY=20
>> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>> =
>>size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=
>>ONT=20
>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rendering is your answer. Don't =
>>=3D<BR>>render=20
>> tracks=3D20<BR>>with plugins. In stereo the right side=20
>> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>> size=3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>>=3D<BR>>size=3D3D2>have=20
>> any=3D20<BR>>effect. Double check to see that their timing is =
>>correct=20
>> =3D<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>face=3D3DArial=20
>> size=3D3D2>Some people have problems with=20
>> =3D<BR>>that.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>> face=3D3DArial=20
>> =
>>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>=
>>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
>> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
>>#000000 2px=20
>> solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"erlilo" =
>><<A=20
>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D20'>mailto:erlil=
>>o@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D20</A><BR>> =20
>> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>There'>n=
>>ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=
>>ere</A><BR>=3D<BR>>you=20
>> have=3D20<BR>> the problem. I think rendering the tracks and =
>>look after=20
>> that <BR>each<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>> stereopair is =
>>starting and=20
>> ending at the same places will do the job=20
>> =3D<BR>><BR>when=3D20<BR>> saving under a new name, =
>>just to be=20
>> sure to go back if something are =
>>=3D<BR>><BR>going=3D20<BR>> =20
>> wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of=20
>> the=3D20<BR>> <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the =
>>old, hard=20
>> way, as in version 2,<BR>=3D<BR>>when=3D20<BR>> =
>><BR>mixing down=20
>> each stereopair with panning hard left and right and=20
>> =3D<BR>>muting=3D20<BR>> all <BR>other tracks. Then =
>>you can=20
>> import them into the project again<BR>=3D<BR>>on =
>>their=3D20<BR>> old=20
>> <BR>places and give them new=20
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>=
>>"Dimitrios"=3D20<BR>> =20
>> <<A href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
>> =3D<BR>>skrev i=3D20<BR>> melding <A=3D20<BR>> =
>>
>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
>>g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=
>>><BR>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
>> Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have =
>>managed=20
>> is to =3D<BR>>have=3D20<BR>> the same start and end for =
>>both audio=20
>> files<BR>> just by cutting at =
>>=3D<BR>>cursor=3D20<BR>> pointy=20
>> on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each of=20
>> =3D<BR>>themhas=3D20<BR>> different cut points and =
>><BR>>=20
>> joint<BR>> points , does this=3D20<BR>> =
>>matter?<BR>>=20
>> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not=20
>> =3D<BR>>actually=3D20<BR>> stereo but<BR>> two =
>>takes of=20
>> acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D<BR>>tomove=3D20<BR>> =
>>different=20
>> parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to=20
>> =3D<BR>>make them=3D20<BR>> on time.<BR>> I want =
>>a stereo=20
>> effect because I wanna expand the =3D<BR>>stereo=3D20<BR>> =
>>perspective=20
>> of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and=20
>> hard=3D20<BR>> right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks =
>>compressor's=20
>> stereo widening =3D<BR>>knob ??=3D20<BR>> !!<BR>> =
>>Amazing=20
>> stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =3D<BR>>not=20
>> like=3D20<BR>> waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at=20
>> all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio"=20
>> <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:e=
>>nnio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>>&n=
>>bsp;=20
>> wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides =
>>of the=20
>> =3D<BR>>stereo=3D20<BR>> file must be<BR>>=20
>> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the=20
>> =3D<BR>>sample=3D20<BR>> (the furthest down you can go=20
>> on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D20<BR>> =20
>> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" =
>><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
>>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=20
>> wrote in =3D<BR>>message <A=3D20<BR>> =
>>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f4d36=
>>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=20
>> =3D<BR>>Is it=3D20<BR>> exactly the same length on each =
>>stereo files=20
>> or no different=3D20<BR>> =20
>> holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the=20
>> stereo=3D20<BR>> =20
>> =
>>objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>> Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios"=20
>> <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
>> skrev i =3D<BR>>melding=3D20<BR>> <BR>>>>=20
>> <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g'>=
>>news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=
>>;>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
>> ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have =
>>almost=20
>> =3D<BR>>finished my=3D20<BR>> project mixing and when I =
>>try to put a=20
>> <BR>>>> >=3D20<BR>> =
>>stereo<BR>>>> >=20
>> native<BR>>>> > effect on any=20
>> =3D<BR>>audio=3D20<BR>> track on any submix when I try to =
>>save I=20
>> always<BR>> =
>>=3D<BR>>get<BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> >=20
>> assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on=20
>> =3D<BR>>same name=3D20<BR>> or =
>>other...<BR>>>> > The=20
>> problem is that I want to use =3D<BR>>stereo=3D20<BR>> =
>>effects as I=20
>> did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know=20
>> =3D<BR>>why=3D20<BR>> Paris doesn't let =
>>to...<BR>>>>=20
>> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =
>>
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>=
>>;>><BR>>><BR>>=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>> =
>><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR>>=
>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>
>>
>Dimitros,
I remember something similar a couple of times and fixed it with starting
from scratch with a new project with the same files. It was a painful
affair. For me it looked to be too much different information in the saved
file, after saving the song some hundred times. I have also had luck with
changing the problematic files over to other channels when I had saving
problems.
Erling
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding news:43907cc6$1@linux...
>
> Dear Tom,
> It is not the plugin under other song I can open a stereo native effect.
> In my project I cannot open ANY stereo effect.
> Even chainer only...
> I can save my project no problem if I don't use a stereo native effect.
> ALSO on submix 3 I managed toopen a stereo native effect but not on submix
> 1 or 4 , any suggestion ?
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Dimitrios,
>>Are you saying you can save before this stereo plugin
>>is inserted? I'd say you may have a rouge plugin that
>>your wrapper or Paris just doesn't like. Try the same thing
>>in a different project. ie: Same stereo plugin inserted
>>on another stereo pair of tracks. Now can you save?
>>If so it may be your project. If not it's probably your plugin.
>>
>>Good luck,
>>Tom
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
>>news:43906b78$1@linux...
>>
>> Thanks for your suggestions.
>> I have rendered using the hardware method via adat and achieved one =
>>nice
>> compact stereo track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved all audio
> =
>>files
>> on new folder and saved under new name I used the clear missing files
> =
>>just
>> before that but again no luck when I put a stereo native effect on =
>>this stereotrack
>> even without hitting play when I try to save assertion fails and =
>>doesn't
>> allow of any save !
>> Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve ...
>> rEGARDS,
>> dIMITRIOS
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Dimitrios,
>> >Rendering is your answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In =
>>stereo
>> =3D
>> >the right side=3D20
>> >won't have any effect. Double check to see that their timing is =
>>correct
>> =3D
>> >too.
>> >Some people have problems with that.
>> >Tom
>> > "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =
>>news:43900b57$1@linux...
>> > There you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =
>>=3D
>> >after that=3D20
>> > each stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will do =
>>the
>> =3D
>> >job=3D20
>> > when saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if =
>>something
>> =3D
>> >are=3D20
>> > going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some =
>>of =3D
>> >the=3D20
>> > stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in version 2,
> =
>>=3D
>> >when=3D20
>> > mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and right and =
>>=3D
>> >muting all=3D20
>> > other tracks. Then you can import them into the project again on =
>>their
>> =3D
>> >old=3D20
>> > places and give them new names.
>> >
>> > Erling
>> >
>> >
>> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding =3D
>> >news:439000f1$1@linux...
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > > Thanks for your replies.
>> > > What I have managed is to have the same start and end for both =
>>audio
>> =3D
>> >files
>> > > just by cutting at cursor pointy on both tracks.
>> > > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of themhas different cut =
>>points
>> =3D
>> >and=3D20
>> > > joint
>> > > points , does this matter?
>> > > If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not actually =
>>stereo
>> =3D
>> >but
>> > > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different =
>>parts
>> =3D
>> >on=3D20
>> > > each
>> > > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on time.
>> > > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the stereo =
>>perspective
>> =3D
>> >of=3D20
>> > > them
>> > > pl;aying hard left and hard right.
>> > > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!
>> > > Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility , not like
> =
>>=3D
>> >waves=3D20
>> > > imager
>> > > at all...
>> > > Cheers,
>> > > DImitrios
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Ennio" <ennio@galicorp.net> wrote:
>> > >>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the stereo file =
>>must
>> =3D
>> >be
>> > > at
>> > >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down you =
>>can =3D
>> >go on
>> > > the
>> > >>zoom tool)
>> > >>
>> > >>"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =
>>news:438f4d36@linux...
>> > >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no =
>>different
>> =3D
>> >holes
>> > >>in
>> > >>> any of the stereo objects?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Erling
>> > >>>
>> > >>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding=3D20
>> > >>> news:438f3760$1@linux...
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Hi,
>> > >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I try to =
>>put a
>> =3D
>> >
>> > >>> > stereo
>> > >>> > native
>> > >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix when I try to save I
> =
>>=3D
>> >always
>> > > get
>> > >>> > assertion
>> > >>> > failed and cannot save either on same name or other...
>> > >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as I did =
>>before
>> =3D
>> >but
>> > >>don't
>> > >>> > know why Paris doesn't let to...
>> > >>> > Regards,
>> > >>> > Dimitrios
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >=3D20
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>> ></HEAD>
>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rendering is your answer. Don't
> =
>>=3D
>> >render tracks=3D20
>> >with plugins. In stereo the right side </FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>w
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Fri, 02 December 2005 09:26 |
erlilo
Messages: 405
Registered: June 2005
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on't </FONT><FONT =
>>face=3D3DArial =3D
>> >size=3D3D2>have any=3D20
>> >effect. Double check to see that their timing is correct =3D
>> >too.</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Some people have problems with =
>>=3D
>> >that.</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>=3D
>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> > <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D
>> >href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D20
>> > wrote in message <A=3D20
>> > =
>>href=3D3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>There
>> =3D
>> >you have=3D20
>> > the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look after that =
>><BR>each
>> =3D
>> >
>> > stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will do the =
>>job =3D
>> ><BR>when=3D20
>> > saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if something =
>>are =3D
>> ><BR>going=3D20
>> > wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of =
>>the=3D20
>> > <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in version
> =
>>2,
>> =3D
>> >when=3D20
>> > <BR>mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and right =
>>and =3D
>> >muting=3D20
>> > all <BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the project =
>>again
>> =3D
>> >on their=3D20
>> > old <BR>places and give them new =3D
>> >names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>"Dimitrios"=3D20
>> > <<A href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
>>=3D
>> >skrev i=3D20
>> > melding <A=3D20
>> > =3D
>> =
>>>href=3D3D"news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&g=
>>=3D
>> >t;=3D20
>> > Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have managed is to =
>>=3D
>> >have=3D20
>> > the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by cutting at
> =
>>=3D
>> >cursor=3D20
>> > pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each of
> =
>>=3D
>> >themhas=3D20
>> > different cut points and <BR>> joint<BR>> points , does this=3D20
>> > matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not =
>>=3D
>> >actually=3D20
>> > stereo but<BR>> two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D
>> >tomove=3D20
>> > different parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to =3D
>> >make them=3D20
>> > on time.<BR>> I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the =3D
>> >stereo=3D20
>> > perspective of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and hard=3D20
>> > right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening =3D
>> >knob ??=3D20
>> > !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =
>>=3D
>> >not like=3D20
>> > waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D20
>> > DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio" <<A=3D20
>> > href=3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20
>> > wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the =3D
>> >stereo=3D20
>> > file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the =3D
>> >sample=3D20
>> > (the furthest down you can go on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D20
>> > tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" <<A=3D20
>> > href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
>>=3D
>> >message <A=3D20
>> > =3D
>> >href=3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>>>> =3D
>> >Is it=3D20
>> > exactly the same length on each stereo files or no different=3D20
>> > holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the stereo=3D20
>> > objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
>> > Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
>> > href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev
> =
>>i =3D
>> >melding=3D20
>> > <BR>>>> <A=3D20
>> > =3D
>> =
>>>href=3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=3D=
>>
>> >t;=3D20
>> > ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D
>> >finished my=3D20
>> > project mixing and when I try to put a <BR>>>> >=3D20
>> > stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > effect on any =3D
>> >audio=3D20
>> > track on any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =3D
>> >get<BR>>>>=3D20
>> > > assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on =3D
>> >same name=3D20
>> > or other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use =3D
>> >stereo=3D20
>> > effects as I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know =3D
>> >why=3D20
>> > Paris doesn't let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D
>> >>=3D20
>> > =3D
>> >Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>=3D
>> >=3D20
>> > <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>><HTML><HEAD>
>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>><STYLE></STYLE>
>></HEAD>
>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are you saying you can save before this
> =
>>stereo=20
>>plugin</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is inserted? I'd say you may have =
>>a rouge=20
>>plugin that</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>your wrapper or Paris just doesn't =
>>like. Try=20
>>the same thing</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in a different project. ie: Same =
>>stereo=20
>>plugin inserted</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on another stereo pair of tracks. =
>>Now can you=20
>>save?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If so it may be your project. If =
>>not it's=20
>>probably your plugin.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
>>message=20
>> <A =
>>href=3D"news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>>ks=20
>> for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware method via
> =
>>adat=20
>> and achieved one nice<BR>compact stereo track with my acoustic =
>>guitars, I even=20
>> saved all audio files<BR>on new folder and saved under new name I used
> =
>>the=20
>> clear missing files just<BR>before that but again no luck when I =
>>put a=20
>> stereo native effect on this stereotrack<BR>even without hitting =
>>play =20
>> when I try to save assertion fails and doesn't<BR>allow of any save =
>>!<BR>Note=20
>> that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve=20
>> ...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>Rendering is your=20
>> answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In=20
>> stereo<BR>=3D<BR>>the right side=3D20<BR>>won't have any =
>>effect. =20
>> Double check to see that their timing is =
>>correct<BR>=3D<BR>>too.<BR>>Some=20
>> people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>> "erlilo" =
>><<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
>>message <A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>> There=20
>> you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =
>>=3D<BR>>after=20
>> that=3D20<BR>> each stereopair is starting and ending at the =
>>same=20
>> places will do the<BR>=3D<BR>>job=3D20<BR>> when saving =
>>under a new=20
>> name, just to be sure to go back if =
>>something<BR>=3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> =20
>> going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of=20
>> =3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> stereofiles, you can rendering the =
>>old, hard=20
>> way, as in version 2, =3D<BR>>when=3D20<BR>> mixing down =
>>each=20
>> stereopair with panning hard left and right and =3D<BR>>muting=20
>> all=3D20<BR>> other tracks. Then you can import them into the =
>>project=20
>> again on their<BR>=3D<BR>>old=3D20<BR>> places and give =
>>them new=20
>> names.<BR>><BR>> Erling<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
>>"Dimitrios"=20
>> <<A href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
>>skrev i=20
>> melding =3D<BR>>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>> =
>>><BR>> =20
>> > Hi,<BR>> > Thanks for your replies.<BR>> =
>>> What I=20
>> have managed is to have the same start and end for both=20
>> audio<BR>=3D<BR>>files<BR>> > just by cutting at cursor =
>>pointy on=20
>> both tracks.<BR>> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =
>>themhas=20
>> different cut points<BR>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>> > =
>>joint<BR>> =20
>> > points , does this matter?<BR>> > If you ask me why =
>>it is=20
>> because these tracks are not actually =
>>stereo<BR>=3D<BR>>but<BR>> =20
>> > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different=20
>> parts<BR>=3D<BR>>on=3D20<BR>> > each<BR>> > =
>>of the=20
>> "stereo" tracks to make them on time.<BR>> > I want a =
>>stereo=20
>> effect because I wanna expand the stereo=20
>> perspective<BR>=3D<BR>>of=3D20<BR>> > =
>>them<BR>> >=20
>> pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>> > Have you tried =
>>T-racks=20
>> compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!<BR>> > Amazing =
>>stereo=20
>> result with complete mono compatibility , not like=20
>> =3D<BR>>waves=3D20<BR>> > imager<BR>> > at=20
>> all...<BR>> > Cheers,<BR>> > =
>>DImitrios<BR>> =20
>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > "Ennio" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both =
>>sides of=20
>> the stereo file must<BR>=3D<BR>>be<BR>> > =
>>at<BR>> =20
>> >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down you =
>>can=20
>> =3D<BR>>go on<BR>> > the<BR>> >>zoom=20
>> tool)<BR>> >><BR>> >>"erlilo" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
>>message <A=20
>> href=3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>> =20
>> >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no=20
>> different<BR>=3D<BR>>holes<BR>> >>in<BR>> =20
>> >>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>> =20
>> >>><BR>> >>> Erling<BR>> =20
>> >>><BR>> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i=20
>> melding=3D20<BR>> >>> <A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>=20
>> >>> ><BR>> >>> > Hi,<BR>> =20
>> >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I =
>>try to=20
>> put a<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>> >>> > =
>>stereo<BR>> =20
>> >>> > native<BR>> >>> > effect on any =
>>audio=20
>> track on any submix when I try to save I =
>>=3D<BR>>always<BR>> >=20
>> get<BR>> >>> > assertion<BR>> =
>>>>> >=20
>> failed and cannot save either on same name or other...<BR>> =20
>> >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as =
>>I did=20
>> before<BR>=3D<BR>>but<BR>> >>don't<BR>> =
>>>>>=20
>> > know why Paris doesn't let to...<BR>> >>> >=20
>> Regards,<BR>> >>> > Dimitrios<BR>> =20
>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> =
>>>><BR>> =20
>> >><BR>> =
>>>=3D20<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=20
>> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
>> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
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>> =
>>size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=
>>ONT=20
>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rendering is your answer. Don't =
>>=3D<BR>>render=20
>> tracks=3D20<BR>>with plugins. In stereo the right side=20
>> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>> size=3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>>=3D<BR>>size=3D3D2>have=20
>> any=3D20<BR>>effect. Double check to see that their timing is =
>>correct=20
>> =3D<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>face=3D3DArial=20
>> size=3D3D2>Some people have problems with=20
>> =3D<BR>>that.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>> face=3D3DArial=20
>> =
>>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>=
>>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
>> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
>>#000000 2px=20
>> solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"erlilo" =
>><<A=20
>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D20'>mailto:erlil=
>>o@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D20</A><BR>> =20
>> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>There'>n=
>>ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=
>>ere</A><BR>=3D<BR>>you=20
>> have=3D20<BR>> the problem. I think rendering the tracks and =
>>look after=20
>> that <BR>each<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>> stereopair is =
>>starting and=20
>> ending at the same places will do the job=20
>> =3D<BR>><BR>when=3D20<BR>> saving under a new name, =
>>just to be=20
>> sure to go back if something are =
>>=3D<BR>><BR>going=3D20<BR>> =20
>> wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of=20
>> the=3D20<BR>> <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the =
>>old, hard=20
>> way, as in version 2,<BR>=3D<BR>>when=3D20<BR>> =
>><BR>mixing down=20
>> each stereopair with panning hard left and right and=20
>> =3D<BR>>muting=3D20<BR>> all <BR>other tracks. Then =
>>you can=20
>> import them into the project again<BR>=3D<BR>>on =
>>their=3D20<BR>> old=20
>> <BR>places and give them new=20
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>=
>>"Dimitrios"=3D20<BR>> =20
>> <<A href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
>> =3D<BR>>skrev i=3D20<BR>> melding <A=3D20<BR>> =
>>
>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
>>g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=
>>><BR>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
>> Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have =
>>managed=20
>> is to =3D<BR>>have=3D20<BR>> the same start and end for =
>>both audio=20
>> files<BR>> just by cutting at =
>>=3D<BR>>cursor=3D20<BR>> pointy=20
>> on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each of=20
>> =3D<BR>>themhas=3D20<BR>> different cut points and =
>><BR>>=20
>> joint<BR>> points , does this=3D20<BR>> =
>>matter?<BR>>=20
>> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not=20
>> =3D<BR>>actually=3D20<BR>> stereo but<BR>> two =
>>takes of=20
>> acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D<BR>>tomove=3D20<BR>> =
>>different=20
>> parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to=20
>> =3D<BR>>make them=3D20<BR>> on time.<BR>> I want =
>>a stereo=20
>> effect because I wanna expand the =3D<BR>>stereo=3D20<BR>> =
>>perspective=20
>> of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and=20
>> hard=3D20<BR>> right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks =
>>compressor's=20
>> stereo widening =3D<BR>>knob ??=3D20<BR>> !!<BR>> =
>>Amazing=20
>> stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =3D<BR>>not=20
>> like=3D20<BR>> waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at=20
>> all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio"=20
>> <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:e=
>>nnio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>>&n=
>>bsp;=20
>> wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides =
>>of the=20
>> =3D<BR>>stereo=3D20<BR>> file must be<BR>>=20
>> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the=20
>> =3D<BR>>sample=3D20<BR>> (the furthest down you can go=20
>> on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D20<BR>> =20
>> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" =
>><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
>>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=20
>> wrote in =3D<BR>>message <A=3D20<BR>> =
>>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f4d36=
>>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=20
>> =3D<BR>>Is it=3D20<BR>> exactly the same length on each =
>>stereo files=20
>> or no different=3D20<BR>> =20
>> holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the=20
>> stereo=3D20<BR>> =20
>> =
>>objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>> Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios"=20
>> <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
>> skrev i =3D<BR>>melding=3D20<BR>> <BR>>>>=20
>> <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g'>=
>>news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=
>>;>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
>> ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have =
>>almost=20
>> =3D<BR>>finished my=3D20<BR>> project mixing and when I =
>>try to put a=20
>> <BR>>>> >=3D20<BR>> =
>>stereo<BR>>>> >=20
>> native<BR>>>> > effect on any=20
>> =3D<BR>>audio=3D20<BR>> track on any submix when I try to =
>>save I=20
>> always<BR>> =
>>=3D<BR>>get<BR>>>>=3D20<BR>> >=20
>> assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on=20
>> =3D<BR>>same name=3D20<BR>> or =
>>other...<BR>>>> > The=20
>> problem is that I want to use =3D<BR>>stereo=3D20<BR>> =
>>effects as I=20
>> did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know=20
>> =3D<BR>>why=3D20<BR>> Paris doesn't let =
>>to...<BR>>>>=20
>> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =
>>
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>=
>>;>><BR>>><BR>>=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>> =
>><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR>>=
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>>
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Dimitrios,
I agree with Erlilo. Try different channels or a different
submix if you can. Otherwise rebuilding the mix from
scratch in a new project is the next best bet. Copy all
mixer settings and presets of effects to make it easier.
Tom
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
news:43908331$1@linux...
Dimitrios, You probably know this, but just to make sure...
If you want to use stereo native plugins, you can NOT have any mono =
plugins
on those tracks. That goes for native and EDS.
Do you have any mono eds or native plugs also on the stereo pair?
Rod
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Dear Tom,
>It is not the plugin under other song I can open a stereo native =
effect.
>In my project I cannot open ANY stereo effect.
>Even chainer only...
>I can save my project no problem if I don't use a stereo native =
effect.
>ALSO on submix 3 I managed toopen a stereo native effect but not on =
submix
>1 or 4 , any suggestion ?
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Dimitrios,
>>Are you saying you can save before this stereo plugin
>>is inserted? I'd say you may have a rouge plugin that
>>your wrapper or Paris just doesn't like. Try the same thing
>>in a different project. ie: Same stereo plugin inserted
>>on another stereo pair of tracks. Now can you save?
>>If so it may be your project. If not it's probably your plugin.
>>
>>Good luck,
>>Tom
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =3D
>>news:43906b78$1@linux...
>>
>> Thanks for your suggestions.
>> I have rendered using the hardware method via adat and achieved =
one =3D
>>nice
>> compact stereo track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved all =
audio
>=3D
>>files
>> on new folder and saved under new name I used the clear missing =
files
>=3D
>>just
>> before that but again no luck when I put a stereo native effect on =
=3D
>>this stereotrack
>> even without hitting play when I try to save assertion fails and =
=3D
>>doesn't
>> allow of any save !
>> Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve ...
>> rEGARDS,
>> dIMITRIOS
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Dimitrios,
>> >Rendering is your answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In =
=3D
>>stereo
>> =3D3D
>> >the right side=3D3D20
>> >won't have any effect. Double check to see that their timing is =
=3D
>>correct
>> =3D3D
>> >too.
>> >Some people have problems with that.
>> >Tom
>> > "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =3D
>>news:43900b57$1@linux...
>> > There you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and =
look
=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >after that=3D3D20
>> > each stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will =
do
=3D
>>the
>> =3D3D
>> >job=3D3D20
>> > when saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if =3D
>>something
>> =3D3D
>> >are=3D3D20
>> > going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in =
some
=3D
>>of =3D3D
>> >the=3D3D20
>> > stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in version =
2,
>=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >when=3D3D20
>> > mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and right =
and =3D
>>=3D3D
>> >muting all=3D3D20
>> > other tracks. Then you can import them into the project again =
on =3D
>>their
>> =3D3D
>> >old=3D3D20
>> > places and give them new names.
>> >
>> > Erling
>> >
>> >
>> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding =3D3D
>> >news:439000f1$1@linux...
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > > Thanks for your replies.
>> > > What I have managed is to have the same start and end for =
both =3D
>>audio
>> =3D3D
>> >files
>> > > just by cutting at cursor pointy on both tracks.
>> > > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of themhas different cut =
=3D
>>points
>> =3D3D
>> >and=3D3D20
>> > > joint
>> > > points , does this matter?
>> > > If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not actually =
=3D
>>stereo
>> =3D3D
>> >but
>> > > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove =
different =3D
>>parts
>> =3D3D
>> >on=3D3D20
>> > > each
>> > > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on time.
>> > > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the stereo =3D
>>perspective
>> =3D3D
>> >of=3D3D20
>> > > them
>> > > pl;aying hard left and hard right.
>> > > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening knob ?? =
!!
>> > > Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility , not =
like
>=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >waves=3D3D20
>> > > imager
>> > > at all...
>> > > Cheers,
>> > > DImitrios
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Ennio" <ennio@galicorp.net> wrote:
>> > >>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the stereo =
file
=3D
>>must
>> =3D3D
>> >be
>> > > at
>> > >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down =
you =3D
>>can =3D3D
>> >go on
>> > > the
>> > >>zoom tool)
>> > >>
>> > >>"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =3D
>>news:438f4d36@linux...
>> > >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no =
=3D
>>different
>> =3D3D
>> >holes
>> > >>in
>> > >>> any of the stereo objects?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Erling
>> > >>>
>> > >>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding=3D3D20
>> > >>> news:438f3760$1@linux...
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Hi,
>> > >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I try =
to =3D
>>put a
>> =3D3D
>> >
>> > >>> > stereo
>> > >>> > native
>> > >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix when I try to =
save I
>=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >always
>> > > get
>> > >>> > assertion
>> > >>> > failed and cannot save either on same name or other...
>> > >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as I did =
=3D
>>before
>> =3D3D
>> >but
>> > >>don't
>> > >>> > know why Paris doesn't let t
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Fri, 02 December 2005 10:01 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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|
o...
>> > >>> > Regards,
>> > >>> > Dimitrios
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >=3D3D20
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>> ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
=3D3D
>> >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
>> ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>> ></HEAD>
>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rendering is your =
answer. Don't
>=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >render tracks=3D3D20
>> >with plugins. In stereo the right side </FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT =3D
>>face=3D3D3DArial =3D3D
>> >size=3D3D3D2>have any=3D3D20
>> >effect. Double check to see that their timing is correct =3D3D
>> >too.</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Some people have =
problems with
=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >that.</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
>> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px;
=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> > <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D3D
>> >href=3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20
>> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20
>> > =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=
ere
>> =3D3D
>> >you have=3D3D20
>> > the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look after that =
=3D
>><BR>each
>> =3D3D
>> >
>> > stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will do =
the =3D
>>job =3D3D
>> ><BR>when=3D3D20
>> > saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if =
something =3D
>>are =3D3D
>> ><BR>going=3D3D20
>> > wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of =
=3D
>>the=3D3D20
>> > <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in =
version
>=3D
>>2,
>> =3D3D
>> >when=3D3D20
>> > <BR>mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and =
right =3D
>>and =3D3D
>> >muting=3D3D20
>> > all <BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the project =
=3D
>>again
>> =3D3D
>> >on their=3D3D20
>> > old <BR>places and give them new =3D3D
>> >names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>"Dimitrios"=3D3D20
>> > <<A =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =3D
>>=3D3D
>> >skrev i=3D3D20
>> > melding <A=3D3D20
>> > =3D3D
>> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D"news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><B=
R>&g=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >t;=3D3D20
>> > Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have managed is =
to =3D
>>=3D3D
>> >have=3D3D20
>> > the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by =
cutting at
>=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >cursor=3D3D20
>> > pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each =
of
>=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >themhas=3D3D20
>> > different cut points and <BR>> joint<BR>> points , does =
this=3D3D20
>> > matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are =
not
=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >actually=3D3D20
>> > stereo but<BR>> two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had =
=3D3D
>> >tomove=3D3D20
>> > different parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to =
=3D3D
>> >make them=3D3D20
>> > on time.<BR>> I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the =
=3D3D
>> >stereo=3D3D20
>> > perspective of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and =
hard=3D3D20
>> > right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening =
=3D3D
>> >knob ??=3D3D20
>> > !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility =
, =3D
>>=3D3D
>> >not like=3D3D20
>> > waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D20
>> > DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio" <<A=3D3D20
>> > =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20
>> > wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the =
=3D3D
>> >stereo=3D3D20
>> > file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the =
=3D3D
>> >sample=3D3D20
>> > (the furthest down you can go on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D20
>> > tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" <<A=3D3D20
>> > href=3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> =
wrote in
=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >message <A=3D3D20
>> > =3D3D
>> =
>href=3D3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>>>> =
=3D3D
>> >Is it=3D3D20
>> > exactly the same length on each stereo files or no =
different=3D3D20
>> > holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the stereo=3D3D20
>> > objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D20
>> > Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20
>> > href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
skrev
>=3D
>>i =3D3D
>> >melding=3D3D20
>> > <BR>>>> <A=3D3D20
>> > =3D3D
>> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&=
g=3D3D=3D
>>
>> >t;=3D3D20
>> > ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D3D
>> >finished my=3D3D20
>> > project mixing and when I try to put a <BR>>>> >=3D3D20
>> > stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > effect on any =3D3D
>> >audio=3D3D20
>> > track on any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =3D3D
>> >get<BR>>>>=3D3D20
>> > > assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on =3D3D
>> >same name=3D3D20
>> > or other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use =3D3D
>> >stereo=3D3D20
>> > effects as I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know =3D3D
>> >why=3D3D20
>> > Paris doesn't let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D3D
>> >>=3D3D20
>> > =3D3D
>> >Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>=3D3D
>> >=3D3D20
>> > <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Are you saying you can save =
before this
>=3D
>>stereo=3D20
>>plugin</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>is inserted? I'd say you may =
have =3D
>>a rouge=3D20
>>plugin that</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>your wrapper or Paris just =
doesn't =3D
>>like. Try=3D20
>>the same thing</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>in a different project. ie: =
Same =3D
>>stereo=3D20
>>plugin inserted</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>on another stereo pair of =
tracks. =3D
>>Now can you=3D20
>>save?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>If so it may be your project. =
If =3D
>>not it's=3D20
>>probably your plugin.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote =
in =3D
>>message=3D20
>> <A =3D
=
>>href=3D3D"news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>=
Than=3D
>>ks=3D20
>> for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware method =
via
>=3D
>>adat=3D20
>> and achieved one nice<BR>compact stereo track with my acoustic =3D
>>guitars, I even=3D20
>> saved all audio files<BR>on new folder and saved under new name I =
used
>=3D
>>the=3D20
>> clear missing files just<BR>before that but again no luck when I =
=3D
>>put a=3D20
>> stereo native effect on this stereotrack<BR>even without hitting =
=3D
>>play =3D20
>> when I try to save assertion fails and doesn't<BR>allow of any =
save =3D
>>!<BR>Note=3D20
>> that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve=3D20
>> ...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
>> =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>Rendering is your=3D20
>> answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In=3D20
>> stereo<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the right side=3D3D20<BR>>won't have any =3D
>>effect. =3D20
>> Double check to see that their timing is =3D
>>correct<BR>=3D3D<BR>>too.<BR>>Some=3D20
>> people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>> "erlilo" =3D
>><<A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
=3D
>>message <A=3D20
>> =3D
>>href=3D3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=3D
>> There=3D20
>> you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>after=3D20
>> that=3D3D20<BR>> each stereopair is starting and ending at the =3D
>>same=3D20
>> places will do the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>job=3D3D20<BR>> when saving =3D
>>under a new=3D20
>> name, just to be sure to go back if =3D
>>something<BR>=3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some =
of=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D20<BR>> stereofiles, you can rendering the =3D
>>old, hard=3D20
>> way, as in version 2, =3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D20<BR>> mixing down =3D
>>each=3D20
>> stereopair with panning hard left and right and =
=3D3D<BR>>muting=3D20
>> all=3D3D20<BR>> other tracks. Then you can import them into the =
=3D
>>project=3D20
>> again on their<BR>=3D3D<BR>>old=3D3D20<BR>> places and give =3D
>>them new=3D20
>> names.<BR>><BR>> Erling<BR>><BR>><BR>> =3D
>>"Dimitrios"=3D20
>> <<A href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
=3D
>>skrev i=3D20
>> melding =3D3D<BR>>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>> =3D
>>><BR>> =3D20
>> > Hi,<BR>> > Thanks for your replies.<BR>> =3D
>>> What I=3D20
>> have managed is to have the same start and end for both=3D20
>> audio<BR>=3D3D<BR>>files<BR>> > just by cutting at cursor =3D
>>pointy on=3D20
>> both tracks.<BR>> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =3D
>>themhas=3D20
>> different cut points<BR>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
>>joint<BR>> =3D20
>> > points , does this matter?<BR>> > If you ask me why =3D
>>it is=3D20
>> because these tracks are not actually =3D
>>stereo<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but<BR>> =3D20
>> > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove =
different=3D20
>> parts<BR>=3D3D<BR>>on=3D3D20<BR>> > each<BR>> > =3D
>>of the=3D20
>> "stereo" tracks to make them on time.<BR>> > I want a =3D
>>stereo=3D20
>> effect because I wanna expand the stereo=3D20
>> perspective<BR>=3D3D<BR>>of=3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
>>them<BR>> >=3D20
>> pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>> > Have you tried =3D
>>T-racks=3D20
>> compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!<BR>> > Amazing =3D
>>stereo=3D20
>> result with complete mono compatibility , not like=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>waves=3D3D20<BR>> > imager<BR>> > at=3D20
>> all...<BR>> > Cheers,<BR>> > =3D
>>DImitrios<BR>> =3D20
>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > "Ennio" <<A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20
>> wrote:<BR>> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both =3D
>>sides of=3D20
>> the stereo file must<BR>=3D3D<BR>>be<BR>> > =3D
>>at<BR>> =3D20
>> >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down you =
=3D
>>can=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>go on<BR>> > the<BR>> >>zoom=3D20
>> tool)<BR>> >><BR>> >>"erlilo" <<A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
=3D
>>message <A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=3D20
>> >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no=3D20
>> different<BR>=3D3D<BR>>holes<BR>> >>in<BR>> =3D20
>> >>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>> =3D20
>> >>><BR>> >>> Erling<BR>> =3D20
>> >>><BR>> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev =
i=3D20
>> melding=3D3D20<BR>> >>> <A=3D20
>> =3D
>>href=3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=3D
>>=3D20
>> >>> ><BR>> >>> > Hi,<BR>> =3D20
>> >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I =3D
>>try to=3D20
>> put a<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> >>> > =3D
>>stereo<BR>> =3D20
>> >>> > native<BR>> >>> > effect on any =3D
>>audio=3D20
>> track on any submix when I try to save I =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>always<BR>> >=3D20
>> get<BR>> >>> > assertion<BR>> =3D
>>>>> >=3D20
>> failed and cannot save either on same name or other...<BR>> =3D20
>> >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as =3D
>>I did=3D20
>> before<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but<BR>> >>don't<BR>> =3D
>>>>>=3D20
>> > know why Paris doesn't let to...<BR>> >>> >=3D20
>> Regards,<BR>> >>> > Dimitrios<BR>> =3D20
>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> =3D
>>>><BR>> =3D20
>> >><BR>> =3D
>>>=3D3D20<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=3D20
>> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
>> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
>> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
>>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
>> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
>> =3D
>>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
>>D><BR>><BODY=3D20
>> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
>> =3D
>>size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=3D
>>ONT=3D20
>> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rendering is your answer. Don't =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>render=3D20
>> tracks=3D3D20<BR>>with plugins. In stereo the right side=3D20
>> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
>> size=3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>have=3D20
>> any=3D3D20<BR>>effect. Double check to see that their timing is =
=3D
>>correct=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
>> size=3D3D3D2>Some people have problems with=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>that.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
>> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
>> =3D
>>size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR >=3D
>>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D20
>> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
=3D
>>#000000 2px=3D20
>> solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"erlilo" =3D
>><<A=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20'>mailto=
:erlil=3D
>>o@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>> =3D20
>> wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Ther=
e'>n=3D
>>ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=3D
>>ere</A><BR>=3D3D<BR>>you=3D20
>> have=3D3D20<BR>> the problem. I think rendering the tracks and =3D
>>look after=3D20
>> that <BR>each<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> stereopair is =3D
>>starting and=3D20
>> ending at the same places will do the job=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>><BR>when=3D3D20<BR>> saving under a new name, =3D
>>just to be=3D20
>> sure to go back if something are =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>><BR>going=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some =
of=3D20
>> the=3D3D20<BR>> <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the =3D
>>old, hard=3D20
>> way, as in version 2,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>><BR>mixing down=3D20
>> each stereopair with panning hard left and right and=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>muting=3D3D20<BR>> all <BR>other tracks. Then =3D
>>you can=3D20
>> import them into the project again<BR>=3D3D<BR>>on =3D
>>their=3D3D20<BR>> old=3D20
>> <BR>places and give them new=3D20
>> =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>=3D
>>"Dimitrios"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> <<A href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musu=
rgio=3D
>>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>skrev i=3D3D20<BR>> melding <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>>
>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
=3D
>>g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=3D
>>><BR>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have =3D
>>managed=3D20
>> is to =3D3D<BR>>have=3D3D20<BR>> the same start and end for =3D
>>both audio=3D20
>> files<BR>> just by cutting at =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>cursor=3D3D20<BR>> pointy=3D20
>> on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each of=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>themhas=3D3D20<BR>> different cut points and =3D
>><BR>>=3D20
>> joint<BR>> points , does this=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>>matter?<BR>>=3D20
>> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>actually=3D3D20<BR>> stereo but<BR>> two =3D
>>takes of=3D20
>> acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D3D<BR>>tomove=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>>different=3D20
>> parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>make them=3D3D20<BR>> on time.<BR>> I want =3D
>>a stereo=3D20
>> effect because I wanna expand the =3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>>perspective=3D20
>> of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and=3D20
>> hard=3D3D20<BR>> right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks =3D
>>compressor's=3D20
>> stereo widening =3D3D<BR>>knob ??=3D3D20<BR>> !!<BR>> =3D
>>Amazing=3D20
>> stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =
=3D3D<BR>>not=3D20
>> like=3D3D20<BR>> waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at=3D20
>> all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio"=3D20
>> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20'>ma=
ilto:e=3D
>>nnio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>>&n=3D
>>bsp;=3D20
>> wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides =3D
>>of the=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>> file must be<BR>>=3D20
>> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>sample=3D3D20<BR>> (the furthest down you can go=3D20
>> on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" =3D
>><<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@o=
nlin=3D
>>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=3D20
>> wrote in =3D3D<BR>>message <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f=
4d36=3D
>>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>Is it=3D3D20<BR>> exactly the same length on each =3D
>>stereo files=3D20
>> or no different=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the=3D20
>> stereo=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> =3D
>>objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios"=3D20
>> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musu=
rgio=3D
>>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D20
>> skrev i =3D3D<BR>>melding=3D3D20<BR>> <BR>>>>=3D20
>> <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g'>=
=3D
>>news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=3D
>>;>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have =3D
>>almost=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>finished my=3D3D20<BR>> project mixing and when I =3D
>>try to put a=3D20
>> <BR>>>> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>>stereo<BR>>>> >=3D20
>> native<BR>>>> > effect on any=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>audio=3D3D20<BR>> track on any submix when I try to =3D
>>save I=3D20
>> always<BR>> =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>get<BR>>>>=3D3D20<BR>> >=3D20
>> assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>same name=3D3D20<BR>> or =3D
>>other...<BR>>>> > The=3D20
>> problem is that I want to use =3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>>effects as I=3D20
>> did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>why=3D3D20<BR>> Paris doesn't let =3D
>>to...<BR>>>>=3D20
>> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>>
>> =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>=3D
>>;>><BR>>><BR>>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> =3D
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with Erlilo. Try =
different channels=20
or a different</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>submix if you can. Otherwise =
rebuilding the=20
mix from</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scratch in a new project is the next =
best=20
bet. Copy all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mixer settings and presets of effects =
to make it=20
easier.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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<DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43908331$1@linux">news:43908331$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Dimi=
trios,=20
You probably know this, but just to make sure...<BR>If you want to use =
stereo=20
native plugins, you can NOT have any mono plugins<BR>on those tracks. =
That=20
goes for native and EDS.<BR>Do you have any mono eds or native plugs =
also on=20
the stereo pair?<BR>Rod<BR>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>Dear Tom,<BR>>It is not the plugin under =
other song I=20
can open a stereo native effect.<BR>>In my project I cannot open =
ANY stereo=20
effect.<BR>>Even chainer only...<BR>>I can save my project no =
problem if=20
I don't use a stereo native effect.<BR>>ALSO on submix 3 I managed =
toopen a=20
stereo native effect but not on submix<BR>>1 or 4 , any suggestion=20
?<BR>>Regards,<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>> <BR>>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Dimitrios, <BR>>>Are =
you saying=20
you can save before this stereo plugin<BR>>>is inserted? =
I'd say=20
you may have a rouge plugin that<BR>>>your wrapper or Paris just =
doesn't=20
like. Try the same thing<BR>>>in a different =
project. ie:=20
Same stereo plugin inserted<BR>>>on another stereo pair of =
tracks. =20
Now can you save?<BR>>>If so it may be your project. If =
not it's=20
probably your plugin.<BR>>><BR>>>Good=20
luck,<BR>>>Tom<BR>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
message=20
=3D<BR>>>news:43906b78$1@linux...<BR>>><BR>>> =
Thanks for=20
your suggestions.<BR>>> I have rendered using the hardware =
method=20
via adat and achieved one =3D<BR>>>nice<BR>>> =
compact stereo=20
track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved all=20
audio<BR>>=3D<BR>>>files<BR>>> on new folder and =
saved=20
under new name I used the clear missing =20
files<BR>>=3D<BR>>>just<BR>>> before that but =
again no luck=20
when I put a stereo native effect on =3D<BR>>>this=20
stereotrack<BR>>> even without hitting play when I =
try to=20
save assertion fails and =3D<BR>>>doesn't<BR>>> =
allow of any=20
save !<BR>>> Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when =
I hit=20
SAve ...<BR>>> rEGARDS,<BR>>> =20
dIMITRIOS<BR>>><BR>>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> =
>Dimitrios,<BR>>> >Rendering is your answer. =
Don't=20
render tracks with plugins. In =
=3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>> >the right side=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>won't have=20
any effect. Double check to see that their timing is=20
=3D<BR>>>correct<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>too.<BR>>> >Some people have problems with=20
that.<BR>>> >Tom<BR>>> > "erlilo" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
message=20
=3D<BR>>>news:43900b57$1@linux...<BR>>> > =
There you=20
have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and=20
look<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >after=20
that=3D3D20<BR>>> > each stereopair is starting =
and ending=20
at the same places will do<BR>=3D<BR>>>the<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>> >job=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
when saving=20
under a new name, just to be sure to go back if=20
=3D<BR>>>something<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>are=3D3D20<BR>>> > going wrong again. If the =
time=20
alignments are going wrong in some<BR>=3D<BR>>>of =
=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>the=3D3D20<BR>>> > stereofiles, you can =
rendering the=20
old, hard way, as in version =
2,<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>when=3D3D20<BR>>> > mixing down each =
stereopair with=20
panning hard left and right and =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>muting=20
all=3D3D20<BR>>> > other tracks. Then you can =
import them=20
into the project again on =3D<BR>>>their<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>> >old=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
places and=20
give them new names.<BR>>> ><BR>>> =
> =20
Erling<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> =
> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i =
melding=20
=3D3D<BR>>> >news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>>> =
> ><BR>>> > > =
Hi,<BR>>> =20
> > Thanks for your replies.<BR>>> > =
>=20
What I have managed is to have the same start and end for both=20
=3D<BR>>>audio<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>files<BR>>> > > just by cutting at cursor =
pointy=20
on both tracks.<BR>>> > > Buit insight the =
stereo=20
tracks each of themhas different cut =
=3D<BR>>>points<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>> >and=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>=20
joint<BR>>> > > points , does this=20
matter?<BR>>> > > If you ask me why it is =
because=20
these tracks are not actually =3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>> >but<BR>>> > > two =
takes of=20
acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different=20
=3D<BR>>>parts<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>on=3D3D20<BR>>> > > each<BR>>> =
> > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on =
time.<BR>>> =20
> > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the =
stereo=20
=3D<BR>>>perspective<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>of=3D3D20<BR>>> > > them<BR>>> =
> > pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>>> =20
> > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening =
knob ??=20
!!<BR>>> > > Amazing stereo result with =
complete mono=20
compatibility , not like<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>waves=3D3D20<BR>>> > > =
imager<BR>>> =20
> > at all...<BR>>> > >=20
Cheers,<BR>>> > > DImitrios<BR>>> =20
> ><BR>>> > ><BR>>> =
> =20
> "Ennio" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>> > >>The in-points (and =
out-points) on=20
both sides of the stereo file<BR>=3D<BR>>>must<BR>>> =
=3D3D<BR>>> >be<BR>>> > >=20
at<BR>>> > >>the identical spot - down to =
the=20
sample (the furthest down you =3D<BR>>>can =
=3D3D<BR>>> >go=20
on<BR>>> > > the<BR>>> > =20
>>zoom tool)<BR>>> > =
>><BR>>> =20
> >>"erlilo" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
message=20
=3D<BR>>>news:438f4d36@linux...<BR>>> > =
>>>=20
Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no=20
=3D<BR>>>different<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>holes<BR>>> > >>in<BR>>> =
> =20
>>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>>> > =20
>>><BR>>> > >>>=20
Erling<BR>>> > >>><BR>>> =
> =20
>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i=20
melding=3D3D20<BR>>> > >>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&n=
bsp;=20
> >>> ><BR>>> > >>> =
>=20
Hi,<BR>>> > >>> > I have almost =
finished my=20
project mixing and when I try to =3D<BR>>>put =
a<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>> ><BR>>> > >>> =
>=20
stereo<BR>>> > >>> > =
native<BR>>> =20
> >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix =
when I=20
try to save I<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>always<BR>>> > > get<BR>>> =
> =20
>>> > assertion<BR>>> > >>> =
>=20
failed and cannot save either on same name or =
other...<BR>>> =20
> >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo =
effects=20
as I did =3D<BR>>>before<BR>>> =
=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>but<BR>>> > >>don't<BR>>> =20
> >>> > know why Paris doesn't let=20
to...<BR>>> > >>> >=20
Regards,<BR>>> > >>> >=20
Dimitrios<BR>>> > >>><BR>>> =20
> >>><BR>>> > =20
>><BR>>> > >><BR>>> =
> =20
>=3D3D20<BR>>> ><BR>>> =
><BR>>> =20
><BR>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
4.0=20
Transitional//EN"><BR>>> =20
><HTML><HEAD><BR>>> ><META=20
http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>>> ><META=20
content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>>> =20
><STYLE></STYLE><BR>>> =20
></HEAD><BR>>> ><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></ DIV> <BR>>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rendering is =
your answer.=20
Don't<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >render=20
tracks=3D3D20<BR>>> >with plugins. In stereo the right =
side=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>>face=3D3D3DArial =3D3D<BR>>> =
>size=3D3D3D2>have=20
any=3D3D20<BR>>> >effect. Double check to see that =
their timing=20
is correct =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Some people have problems=20
with<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>that.</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV& ;gt; <BR>>> =20
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=20
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px;<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px"><BR>>> =20
> <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20'>mailto:erl=
ilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>>>&n=
bsp;=20
> wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>There'>n=
ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=
ere</A><BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>> >you have=3D3D20<BR>>> =
> the=20
problem. I think rendering the tracks and look after that=20
=3D<BR>>><BR>each<BR>>> =
=3D3D<BR>>> =20
><BR>>> > stereopair is starting and ending at =
the=20
same places will do the =3D<BR>>>job =3D3D<BR>>> =20
><BR>when=3D3D20<BR>>> > saving under a =
new name,=20
just to be sure to go back if something =3D<BR>>>are =
=3D3D<BR>>> =20
><BR>going=3D3D20<BR>>> > wrong again. =
If the time=20
alignments are going wrong in some of =
=3D<BR>>>the=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, =
as in=20
version<BR>>=3D<BR>>>2,<BR>>> =
=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>when=3D3D20<BR>>> > <BR>mixing down =
each=20
stereopair with panning hard left and right =3D<BR>>>and=20
=3D3D<BR>>> >muting=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
all=20
<BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the project=20
=3D<BR>>>again<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> >on=20
their=3D3D20<BR>>> > old <BR>places and =
give them new=20
=3D3D<BR>>> =20
=
>names.<BR><BR>Erling& ;lt;BR><BR><BR> "Dimitr=
ios"=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> <<A href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >skrev =
i=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> melding <A=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>> =3D<BR>>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=
><BR>&g</A>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D <BR>>> =20
>t;=3D3D20<BR>>> > Hi,<BR>> Thanks =
for your=20
replies.<BR>> What I have managed is to=20
=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>have=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by =
cutting=20
at<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>cursor=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the =
stereo tracks=20
each of<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>themhas=3D3D20<BR>>> > different cut points =
and=20
<BR>> joint<BR>> points , does =
this=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these =
tracks=20
are not<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>actually=3D3D20<BR>>> > stereo =
but<BR>> two=20
takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>tomove=3D3D20<BR>>> > different parts on =
<BR>>=20
each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to =3D3D<BR>>> =
>make=20
them=3D3D20<BR>>> > on time.<BR>> I want =
a stereo=20
effect because I wanna expand the =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>stereo=3D3D20<BR>>> > perspective of =
<BR>>=20
them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and =
hard=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's =
stereo=20
widening =3D3D<BR>>> >knob ??=3D3D20<BR>>> =
> =20
!!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono =
compatibility ,=20
=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >not =
like=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at =
all...<BR>>=20
Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
DImitrios<BR>><BR>> ;<BR>> "Ennio"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20'>mailto=
:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>&g=
t;> =20
> wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on =
both=20
sides of the =3D3D<BR>>> =
>stereo=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the =
identical spot -=20
down to the =3D3D<BR>>> =
>sample=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
(the furthest down you can go on<BR>>=20
the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
tool)<BR>>><BR>&am p;gt;> "erlilo"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=20
wrote in<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >message=20
<A=3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D<BR>>> =
>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f4d36=
@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=20
=3D3D<BR>>> >Is it=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
exactly the=20
same length on each stereo files or no =
different=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> holes<BR>>>in<BR>& amp;gt;>> any of the=20
stereo=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
=
objects?<BR>>>><BR >>>>=3D3D20 <BR>>>&n=
bsp;=20
> Erling<BR>>>><BR&a mp;gt;>>> =
"Dimitrios"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
skrev<BR>>=3D<BR>>>i =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>melding=3D3D20<BR>>> > <BR>>>> =
<A=3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D<BR>>> =20
=3D<BR>>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=3D=
3D'>news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>=
;>>&g=3D3D</A>=3D<BR>>> <BR>>> =20
>t;=3D3D20<BR>>> > ><BR>>>> =
>=20
Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>finished my=3D3D20<BR>>> > project mixing and =
when I=20
try to put a <BR>>>> >=3D3D20<BR>>> =
> =20
stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > =
effect on=20
any =3D3D<BR>>> >audio=3D3D20<BR>>> =
> track on=20
any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>get<BR>>>>=3D3D20 <BR>>> > > =
assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on=20
=3D3D<BR>>> >same name=3D3D20<BR>>> =
> or=20
other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use=20
=3D3D<BR>>> >stereo=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
effects as=20
I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR> >>> > =
know=20
=3D3D<BR>>> >why=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
Paris doesn't=20
let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>>=20
=3D3D<BR>>> >>=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>> =20
=
>Dimitrios<BR>>>>& amp;lt;BR>>>><BR>& amp;gt;&g=
t;<BR>>><BR>&g t;=3D3D <BR>>> =20
>=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
=
<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE& gt;</BODY></HTML> <BR>>=
> =20
><BR>>> =
><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><!DOCTYPE=20
HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
=
Transitional//EN"><BR>>><HTML><HEAD> <BR>>><=
META=20
http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
=3D<BR>>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR >>><META =
content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
6.00.2800.1400"=20
=
name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>>><STYLE></STYLE> <BR>>>=
</HEAD><BR>>><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DI V> <BR>>><DIV>&=
lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Are you saying you can save before=20
=
this<BR>>=3D<BR>>>stereo=3D20<BR>>>plugin</FONT><=
/DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>is inserted? I'd say you may have =
=3D<BR>>>a=20
rouge=3D20<BR>>>plugin=20
that</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>your wrapper or Paris just doesn't =3D<BR>>>like.=20
Try=3D20<BR>>>the same=20
thing</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>in a different project. ie: Same=20
=3D<BR>>>stereo=3D20<BR>>>plugin=20
inserted</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>on another stereo pair of tracks. =3D<BR>>>Now can =
=
you=3D20<BR> >>save?</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>>><DIV>=
<FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>If so it may be your project. If =
=3D<BR>>>not=20
it's=3D20<BR>>>probably your=20
plugin.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Good=20
luck,</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20=
<BR>>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>>BORDER-LEFT: =
#000000=20
2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>>> =
<DIV>"Dimitrios"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
wrote in =3D<BR>>>message=3D20<BR>>> <A=20
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
'>news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
;<BR>Than</A>=3D<BR>>>ks=3D20 <BR>>> =20
for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware =
method=20
via<BR>>=3D<BR>>>adat=3D20<BR>>> and achieved one =
nice<BR>compact stereo track with my acoustic =
=3D<BR>>>guitars, I=20
even=3D20<BR>>> saved all audio files<BR>on new =
folder and=20
saved under new name I =
used<BR>>=3D<BR>>>the=3D20<BR>>> clear=20
missing files just<BR>before that but again no luck when I=20
=3D<BR>>>put a=3D20<BR>>> stereo native effect on =
this=20
stereotrack<BR>even without hitting =3D<BR>>>play=20
=3D20<BR>>> when I try to save assertion fails and=20
doesn't<BR>allow of any save=20
=3D<BR>>>!<BR>Note=3D20<BR>>> that assertion =
failure=20
appears ONLY when I hit SAve=3D20<BR>>> =20
...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS& ;lt;BR><BR> "Tom =
Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t;> =20
=
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>> R=
endering=20
is your=3D20<BR>>> answer. Don't render tracks with =
plugins.=20
In=3D20<BR>>> stereo<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the right =
side=3D3D20<BR>>won't have any =3D<BR>>>effect.=20
=3D20<BR>>> Double check to see that their timing is=20
=
=3D<BR> >>correct<BR>=3D3D<BR& ;gt;>too.<BR>>Some=
=3D20<BR>>> =20
people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>> =
"erlilo"=20
=3D<BR>>><<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
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wrote in =3D<BR>>>message <A=3D20<BR>>> =20
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
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0b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>>> There=3D20<BR>>> you have the problem. I =
think=20
rendering the tracks and look=20
=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>after=3D20 <BR>>> =20
that=3D3D20<BR>> each stereopair is starting and ending at =
the=20
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the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>job=3D3D 20<BR>> when saving=20
=3D<BR>>>under a new=3D20<BR>>> name, just to be =
sure to go back=20
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=3D<BR> >>something<BR>=3D3D<BR&a mp;gt;>are=3D3D20<BR>=
>=20
=3D20<BR>>> going wrong again. If the time alignments are =
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=3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D20<BR>& amp;gt;=20
stereofiles, you can rendering the =3D<BR>>>old, =
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mixing down=20
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all=3D3D20<BR>>=20
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give=20
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=3D<BR>>>"Dimitrios"=3D20<BR>>> <<A =
href=3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>>>skrev i=3D20<BR>>> melding=20
=3D3D<BR>>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>><BR>> =3D20<BR>>> > =
Hi,<BR>>=20
> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> =3D<BR>>>> What=20
I=3D20<BR>>> have managed is to have the same start and =
end for=20
both=3D20<BR>>> =
audio<BR>=3D3D<BR>>files& amp;lt;BR>>=20
> just by cutting at cursor =3D<BR>>>pointy =
on=3D20<BR>>> =20
both tracks.<BR>> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =
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points<BR>=3D3D<BR>>and=3 D3D20<BR>> >=20
=3D<BR>>>joint<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> > points =
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each<BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>>>of the=3D20<BR>>> "stereo" tracks to =
make them on=20
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=3D<BR>>>stereo=3D20<BR>>> =20
effect because I wanna expand the stereo=3D20<BR>>> =20
perspective<BR>=3D3D<BR>> of=3D3D20<BR>> >=20
=3D<BR>>>them<BR>> >=3D20<BR>>> pl;aying =
hard left=20
and hard right.<BR>> > Have you tried=20
=3D<BR>>>T-racks=3D20<BR>>> compressor's stereo =
widening knob ??=20
!!<BR>> > Amazing =
=3D<BR>>>stereo=3D20<BR>>> result=20
with complete mono compatibility , not like=3D20<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>waves=3D3D20<BR> ;> > =
imager<BR>> >=20
at=3D20<BR>>> all...<BR>> > =
Cheers,<BR>> >=20
=3D<BR>>>DImitrios<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> =
><BR>>=20
><BR>> > "Ennio" <<A=3D20<BR>>> =
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:e=
nnio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>>&g=
t; =20
wrote:<BR>> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both=20
=3D<BR>>>sides of=3D20<BR>>> the stereo file=20
must<BR>=3D3D<BR>>be& lt;BR>> >=20
=3D<BR>>>at<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> >>the =
identical spot=20
- down to the sample (the furthest down you=20
=3D<BR>>>can=3D20<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>go =
on<BR>>=20
> the<BR>> >>zoom=3D20<BR>>> =
tool)<BR>>=20
>><BR>> >>"erlilo" =
<<A=3D20<BR>>> =20
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=20
wrote in =3D<BR>>>message <A=3D20<BR>>> =
href=3D3D"<A=20
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@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>=20
=3D20<BR>>> >>> Is it exactly the same length on =
each=20
stereo files or no=3D20<BR>>> =20
different<BR>=3D3D<BR>>ho les<BR>>=20
>>in<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> >>> any of =
the stereo=20
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>>><BR>> >>> "Dimitrios"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
skrev i=3D20<BR>>> melding=3D3D20<BR>> =
>>>=20
<A=3D20<BR>>> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f=
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=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>>> >>> ><BR>> =
>>> > Hi,<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> =
>>> > I=20
have almost finished my project mixing and when I =3D<BR>>>try=20
to=3D20<BR>>> put =
a<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR >>=20
>>> > =3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>>> =20
>>> > native<BR>> >>> > effect on any =
=3D<BR>>>audio=3D20<BR>>> track on any submix when I =
try to save=20
I =3D<BR> >>=3D3D<BR>>always< ;BR>> =
>=3D20<BR>>> =20
get<BR>> >>> > assertion<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>>>> >=3D20<BR>>> failed and =
cannot save=20
either on same name or other...<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> =20
>>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as=20
=3D<BR>>>I did=3D20<BR>>> =20
before<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but&a mp;lt;BR>> =
>>don't<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>>>>=3D20<BR>>> > know why Paris =
doesn't let=20
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=3D20<BR>>> >>><BR>> =
>>><BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>>><BR>> =3D20<BR>>> =20
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=3D<BR>>>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20<BR>>> =20
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=3D<BR> >>size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT& amp;gt;</DIV><BR&=
gt;><DIV><F=3D<BR>>>ONT=3D20 <BR>>> =20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rendering is your answer. Don't=20
=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>render=3D20 <BR>>> =20
tracks=3D3D20<BR>>with plugins. In stereo the right=20
side=3D20<BR>>> =20
</FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt;<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>> size=3D3D3D2>won't =
</FONT><FONT=20
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=
=3D<BR> >>=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D2& amp;gt;have=3D20 <BR>>>&n=
bsp;=20
any=3D3D20<BR>>effect. Double check to see that their timing =
is=20
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=
=3D3D<BR>>too.</FONT>& ;lt;/DIV><BR>><DIV> ;=
<FONT=20
=3D<BR>>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>> =
size=3D3D3D2>Some people=20
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=
=3D3D<BR>>that.</FONT>&am p;lt;/DIV><BR>><DIV&g t=
;<FONT=3D20<BR>>> =20
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >>size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT> </DIV><BR>>=
<BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>=3D<BR>>>>style=3D3D3D "PADDING-RI=
GHT:=3D20<BR>>> =20
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=3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT:=20
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=3D<BR>>><<A=3D20<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR >>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no<=
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nline.no</A>>=3D3D20</A>& amp;lt;BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>>> wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>>=20
href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux&=
lt;/A>...</DIV>There'>n=3D<BR>>>ews:43900b57$1@linux"&g=
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A><BR>=3D3D<BR>>yo u=3D20 <BR>>> =20
have=3D3D20<BR>> the problem. I think rendering the tracks =
and=20
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<BR>each<BR>=3D3D<BR& gt;><BR>> stereopair =
is=20
=3D<BR>>>starting and=3D20<BR>>> ending at the same =
places will=20
do the job=3D20<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>><BR>when=3D3D20 <BR>> saving under a =
new name,=20
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something are=20
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=3D20<BR>>> wrong again. If the time alignments are going =
wrong in=20
some of=3D20<BR>>> the=3D3D20<BR>> =
<BR>stereofiles, you=20
can rendering the =3D<BR>>>old, hard=3D20<BR>>> way, =
as in=20
version 2,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D 20<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>><BR>mixing down=3D20<BR>>> each =
stereopair with=20
panning hard left and right and=3D20<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>muting=3D3D20<BR&g t;> all <BR>other =
tracks. Then=20
=3D<BR>>>you can=3D20<BR>>> import them into the =
project=20
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=3D<BR>>>their=3D3D20<BR>>=20
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gt;<BR><BR>=3D<BR>>> "Dimitrios"=3D3D20<BR>>=20
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href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>>> =20
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=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr=
</A'>mailto:musurgio=3D<BR>>>@otenet.gr ">musurgio@otenet.g=
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=3D3D<BR>>skrev i=3D3D20<BR>> melding =
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replies.<BR>>=20
What I have =3D<BR>>>managed=3D20<BR>>> is to=20
=3D3D<BR>>have=3D3D20<BR> > the same start and end =
for=20
=3D<BR>>>both audio=3D20<BR>>> files<BR>> =
just by=20
cutting at =
=3D<BR> >>=3D3D<BR>>cursor=3D3D20 <BR>>=20
pointy=3D20<BR>>> on both tracks.<BR>> Buit =
insight the=20
stereo tracks each of=3D20<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>themhas=3D3D20<BR& gt;> different cut points =
and=20
=3D<BR>>><BR>>=3D20<BR >>> =
joint<BR>> points ,=20
does this=3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>matter?<BR>>=3D20 <BR>>> If you ask =
me why it=20
is because these tracks are not=3D20<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>actually=3D3D20<BR& ;gt;> stereo =
but<BR>> two=20
=3D<BR>>>takes of=3D20<BR>>> acoustic guitar playing =
so I had=20
=3D3D<BR>>tomove=3D3D20<BR&g t;>=20
=3D<BR>>>different=3D20<BR>>> parts on =
<BR>>=20
each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to=3D20<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>make them=3D3D20<BR>> on =
time.<BR>> I want=20
=3D<BR>>>a stereo=3D20<BR>>> effect because I wanna =
expand the=20
=3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D20<BR&g t;>=20
=3D<BR>>>perspective=3D20<BR>>> of <BR>>=20
them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and=3D20<BR>>> =20
hard=3D3D20<BR>> right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks=20
=3D<BR>>>compressor's=3D20<BR>>> stereo widening=20
=3D3D<BR>>knob ??=3D3D20<BR>> !!<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>Amazing=3D20<BR>>> stereo result with =
complete mono=20
compatibility , =3D3D<BR>>not=3D20<BR>>> =20
like=3D3D20<BR>> waves <BR>> imager<BR>>=20
at=3D20<BR>>> all...<BR>>=20
Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>&a mp;gt; =3D20<BR>>> =20
DImitrios<BR>><BR>> ;<BR>>=20
"Ennio"=3D20<BR>>> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>=20
href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net=
</A>>=3D3D20'>mailto:e=3D<BR>>>nnio@galicorp.net">en=
nio@galicorp.net </A>>=3D3D20</A><B R>>&n=3D <BR=
>>>bsp;=3D20<BR>>> =20
wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides=20
=3D<BR>>>of the=3D20<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D20<BR&g t;> file must=20
be<BR>>=3D20<BR>>> at<BR>>>the =
identical spot -=20
down to the=3D20<BR>>> =
=3D3D<BR>>sample=3D3D20<BR&g t;>=20
(the furthest down you can go=3D20<BR>>> on<BR>>=20
the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D20<BR&a mp;gt;> =3D20<BR>>> =
tool)<BR>>><BR>&am p;gt;> "erlilo"=20
=3D<BR> >><<A=3D3D20<BR>&a mp;gt; =3D20<BR>>> =20
href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no<=
/A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=3D<BR>>>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A&=
lt;/A>>>=3D20<BR>>> =20
wrote in =3D3D<BR>>message <A=3D3D20<BR>>=20
=
=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D "<A=3D20<BR>>> =
;=20
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=3D3D<BR>>Is it=3D3D20<BR>> exactly the same length =
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=3D<BR>>>almost=3D20<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>finished my=3D3D20<BR>> project mixing and =
when I=20
=3D<BR>>>try to put a=3D20<BR>>> =
<BR>>>>=20
>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D<BR> >>stereo<BR>>>& ;gt;=20
>=3D20<BR>>> native<BR>>>> > effect =
on=20
any=3D20<BR>>> =
=3D3D<BR>>audio=3D3D20<BR> ;> track on=20
any submix when I try to =3D<BR>>>save I=3D20<BR>>> =20
always<BR>>=20
=
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gt;>=20
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failed and=20
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name=3D3D20<BR>> or =
=3D<BR> >>other...<BR>>>&a mp;gt; >=20
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as=20
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but<BR>>>don't<BR> >>> >=20
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=3D3D<BR>>why=3D3D20<BR>& amp;gt; Paris=20
doesn't let =
=3D<BR> >>to...<BR>>>& gt;=3D20 <BR>>> >=20
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=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D20<BR& ;gt;>=20
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------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C5F740.73891B20--Well, one of the reasons I am so opposed to proprietary software and hardware
in general is my experience with PARIS. People often confuse free software
with money cost, which really isn't the point, IHMO. Stallman talked about
"free as in speech and free as in beer" and the big one to me is the first.
If I need a new perl module or I want to install a new package on my Debian
boxes, and there's a problem I can open up the installer script and see what's
going on. Oh, it's expecting an older C compiler in a different place. Find
and replace "gcc3" with "CC" and off we go. Try that with any other OS. That
kind of control matters *a lot* to me these days.
I also find it supremely ironic that Apple is considered to be a foward looking,
innovative company for making a Unix based OS. They chose the least restrictive
license on planet earth and have grudgingly followed the letter of the law
for all of code not under the "go ahead and steal it" BSD structure. There
have been constant bubbling complaints from the KDE crowd about getting code
back to the community. On the other side, stodgy old IBM works with GPL code
as model citizens and even pays for lawyers to defend that code from silly
law suits.
In any case, there's no way VST will ever make it to GPL'd code so I'm stuck
with one Windows box no matter what. That said, the ALSA guys do really good
work under Linux, it's too bad it will be so underexploited.
TCB
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks for sharing your info about your Linux experience, Thad. That's
>good to hear. My old PARIS Intel box has became my Linux/BeOS box.
>
>I've used a lot of different hardware and OS combinations over the
>years. OSX with its command line, UNIX roots and tons of media
>production software has covered my primary computing needs fairly well
>for the last couple of years. However things are steadily progressing in
>Linux land and I think it has a bright future.
>
>I hear you about proprietary systems. I'm not against them except when
>they are used to force out competition through means other than on their
>technical merits, as Microsoft has notably done. And on the flip side,
>their vulnerability in manipulated markets, as the Amiga and BeOS ably
>demonstrated. Open source has become the best way to survive in this
>environment. Even Apple is participating in open source to an extent at
>the kernel and browser levels.
>
>I am not opposed to companies making money on their technology when
>competing fairly on merits and pushing the envelope to provide needed
>tools. I'm happy to pay fair prices for hardware and software when they
>meets my needs, and to support talented engineers in the quest. I
>originally bought PARIS for that reason.
>
>But using monopolistic leveraging, Orwellian marketspeak, and swallowing
>other companies while killing a lot of great competitive tech and
>promoting marginal tech, that kind of behavior doesn't endear much respect.
>
>I got into Macs this time around because of OSX and the continued
>strides being made with OSX production software. After years of
>misdirection with OS7-8-9 and failed attempts to significantly progress,
>with OSX Apple was able to push the envelope to provide improved
>technology for computing, media production, and lately, media distribution.
>
>I'm not saying Apple is perfect, there are disadvantages to some of
>their decisions and they have had a lot of reports from me to help them
>improve. :^) But the advantages of OSX, generally solid hardware like
>the current dual G5s, and a steady stream of capable software transcend
>the disadvantages right now.
>
>Good luck with your computer and music pursuits! When the time comes to
>move your music production over to Linux I'd love to hear how it goes.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>TCB wrote:
>> I was just busting your chops a bit. I yam what I yam.
>>
>> On the "desktop" OS front I have converted 100% to Debian GNU/Linux. I
still
>> have one M$oft box for my audio stuff (until Live, CubaseSX, VST, and
a ton
>> of other things get ported to GNU/Linux I have no choice), but everything
>> else runs on GNU/Linux. I have to say whenver I use a desktop that isn't
>> Gnome and doesn't give me immediate access to a powerful command line
I feel
>> like I'm running on one leg. There are some bumps along the road, and
I have
>> to install some non free software for remote access to work (including
some
>> kernel patches that are a PITA), but it's been worth every bit of the
effort.
>> Now that I'm doing computer work again for a living I'm happy to be free
>> of proprietary software as much as humanly possible. For me all proprietary
>> systems like OS X, XP, Vista, BeOS, and everything else are all roughly
equivalent
>> evils--places I have to spend some time in order to make a living.
>>
>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Heh. Yep Thad, I'm running it on BeOS, maybe that's the problem? ;^)
>>>
>>>Time for a BeOS report I guess. Palm bought BeOS and hired members of
>>>the engineering team. Your Palm's operating system now benefits.
>>>
>>>Be retained the right to sue Microsoft for closing them out of the OS
>>>market for Intel boxes through illegally restrictive OEM agreements.
>>>Microsoft paid millions to settle. Chump change.
>>>
>>>Wish it had been different. BeOS was full of great tech. Imagine where
>>>it could be today.
>>>
>>>Heck, for that matter imagine where PARIS could be today, if only...
>>>
>>>More on BeOS:
>>>http://www.birdhouse.org/beos/byte/30-bootloader/
>>>http://www.itjungle.com/mid/mid022702-story06.html
>>>http://www.mv-voice.com/morgue/2003/2003_09_26.bisi.html
>>>
>>>Meanwhile OSX has been steadily improving and has some good stuff. Oddly
>>
>>
>>>I ran Logic all day today in a project that was crashing left and right
>>
>>
>>>last time I worked on that project. It didn't crash once today.
>>>
>>>So I don't know, maybe it's not a Logic problem. It may have to do with
>>
>>
>>>Native Instruments plugins, whatever's going on with my system drive or
>>
>>
>>>?. Or maybe a recent update fixed something. BTW, I do send bug reports
>>
>>
>>>to Apple so they've seen the detailed crash reports.
>>>
>>>The bug where Logic stops playing back a virtual synth did come up one
>>>time today. That one needs to be fixed. Reloading the song is the
>>>workaround.
>>>
>>>On the plus side, Logic on a dual G5 is incredible in its capabilities
>>>and the music is sounding great.
>>>
>>>Nice to hear from you, Thad.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>DJ wrote:
>>>
>>>>heheheh.........hi thad
>>>>
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:438f5066$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>You're running this on BeOS, right?
>>>>>
>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm using Logic "Pro" 7.1 on a dual 2.5GHZ G5 running OSX. Logic would
>>>>>>be "Pro" if it didn't crash. Of course OSX doesn't go down when Logic
>>>>>>does but it's still an interruption to restart Logic when it happens.
>>>>>>Some of that may be a hardware problem with my rig, I'm tracking down
>>
>> a
>>
>>>>>>possible HD glitch right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The other thing about Logic is there is a bit of a learning curve.
Most
>>>>>
>>>>>>things are straight forward but a few things are obtuse. You might
give
>>>>>
>>>>>>yourself a few weeks to come up to speed, depending on what your needs
>>>>
>>>>are.
>>>>
>>>>
>>&g
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| Re: Bizzare_assertion_fail_problem_any_insight? [message #60867 is a reply to message #60865] |
Fri, 02 December 2005 11:29 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
|
Senior Member |
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|
get="_blank">musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding=3D3D20
> >> > >>> news:438f3760$1@linux...
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > Hi,
> >> > >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I try =
>to =3D
> >>put a
> >> =3D3D
> >> >
> >> > >>> > stereo
> >> > >>> > native
> >> > >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix when I try to =
>save I
> >=3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >always
> >> > > get
> >> > >>> > assertion
> >> > >>> > failed and cannot save either on same name or other...
> >> > >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as I did
=
>=3D
> >>before
> >> =3D3D
> >> >but
> >> > >>don't
> >> > >>> > know why Paris doesn't let to...
> >> > >>> > Regards,
> >> > >>> > Dimitrios
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >=3D3D20
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> >> ><HTML><HEAD>
> >> ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
>=3D3D
> >> >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> >> ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> >> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> >> ></HEAD>
> >> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rendering is your =
>answer. Don't
> >=3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >render tracks=3D3D20
> >> >with plugins. In stereo the right side </FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT =3D
> >>face=3D3D3DArial =3D3D
> >> >size=3D3D3D2>have any=3D3D20
> >> >effect. Double check to see that their timing is correct =3D3D
> >> >too.</FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Some people have =
>problems with
> =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >that.</FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> >> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> >> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:
=
>5px;
> =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >> > <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D3D
> >> >href=3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20
> >> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20
> >> > =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=
>ere
> >> =3D3D
> >> >you have=3D3D20
> >> > the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look after that =
>=3D
> >><BR>each
> >> =3D3D
> >> >
> >> > stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will do =
>the =3D
> >>job =3D3D
> >> ><BR>when=3D3D20
> >> > saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if =
>something =3D
> >>are =3D3D
> >> ><BR>going=3D3D20
> >> > wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of
=
>=3D
> >>the=3D3D20
> >> > <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in =
>version
> >=3D
> >>2,
> >> =3D3D
> >> >when=3D3D20
> >> > <BR>mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and =
>right =3D
> >>and =3D3D
> >> >muting=3D3D20
> >> > all <BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the project
=
>=3D
> >>again
> >> =3D3D
> >> >on their=3D3D20
> >> > old <BR>places and give them new =3D3D
> >> >names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>"Dimitrios"=3D3D20
> >> > <<A =
>href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >skrev i=3D3D20
> >> > melding <A=3D3D20
> >> > =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>href=3D3D3D"news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><B=
>R>&g=3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >t;=3D3D20
> >> > Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have managed is =
>to =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >have=3D3D20
> >> > the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by =
>cutting at
> >=3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >cursor=3D3D20
> >> > pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each
=
>of
> >=3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >themhas=3D3D20
> >> > different cut points and <BR>> joint<BR>> points , does =
>this=3D3D20
> >> > matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are =
>not
> =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >actually=3D3D20
> >> > stereo but<BR>> two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had =
>=3D3D
> >> >tomove=3D3D20
> >> > different parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to =
>=3D3D
> >> >make them=3D3D20
> >> > on time.<BR>> I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the
=
>=3D3D
> >> >stereo=3D3D20
> >> > perspective of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and =
>hard=3D3D20
> >> > right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening
=
>=3D3D
> >> >knob ??=3D3D20
> >> > !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility
=
>, =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >not like=3D3D20
> >> > waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D20
> >> > DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio" <<A=3D3D20
> >> > =
>href=3D3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20
> >> > wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the
=
>=3D3D
> >> >stereo=3D3D20
> >> > file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the =
>=3D3D
> >> >sample=3D3D20
> >> > (the furthest down you can go on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D20
> >> > tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" <<A=3D3D20
> >> > href=3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> =
>wrote in
> =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >message <A=3D3D20
> >> > =3D3D
> >> =
>>href=3D3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>>>> =
>=3D3D
> >> >Is it=3D3D20
> >> > exactly the same length on each stereo files or no =
>different=3D3D20
> >> > holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the stereo=3D3D20
> >> > objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D20
> >> > Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20
> >> > href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>
=
>skrev
> >=3D
> >>i =3D3D
> >> >melding=3D3D20
> >> > <BR>>>> <A=3D3D20
> >> > =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>href=3D3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&=
>g=3D3D=3D
> >>
> >> >t;=3D3D20
> >> > ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D3D
> >> >finished my=3D3D20
> >> > project mixing and when I try to put a <BR>>>> >=3D3D20
> >> > stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > effect on any =3D3D
> >> >audio=3D3D20
> >> > track on any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >get<BR>>>>=3D3D20
> >> > > assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on =3D3D
> >> >same name=3D3D20
> >> > or other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use =3D3D
> >> >stereo=3D3D20
> >> > effects as I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know =3D3D
> >> >why=3D3D20
> >> > Paris doesn't let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D20
> >> > =3D3D
> >> >Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>=3D3D
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> >><HTML><HEAD>
> >><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> >><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> >><STYLE></STYLE>
> >></HEAD>
> >><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Are you saying you can save =
>before this
> >=3D
> >>stereo=3D20
> >>plugin</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>is inserted? I'd say you may =
>have =3D
> >>a rouge=3D20
> >>plugin that</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>your wrapper or Paris just =
>doesn't =3D
> >>like. Try=3D20
> >>the same thing</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>in a different project. ie: =
>Same =3D
> >>stereo=3D20
> >>plugin inserted</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>on another stereo pair of =
>tracks. =3D
> >>Now can you=3D20
> >>save?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>If so it may be your project. =
>If =3D
> >>not it's=3D20
> >>probably your plugin.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
=
>=3D
> >>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote
=
>in =3D
> >>message=3D20
> >> <A =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D"news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>=
>Than=3D
> >>ks=3D20
> >> for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware method
=
>via
> >=3D
> >>adat=3D20
> >> and achieved one nice<BR>compact stereo track with my acoustic =3D
> >>guitars, I even=3D20
> >> saved all audio files<BR>on new folder and saved under new name I
=
>used
> >=3D
> >>the=3D20
> >> clear missing files just<BR>before that but again no luck when I =
>=3D
> >>put a=3D20
> >> stereo native effect on this stereotrack<BR>even without hitting =
>=3D
> >>play =3D20
> >> when I try to save assertion fails and doesn't<BR>allow of any =
>save =3D
> >>!<BR>Note=3D20
> >> that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve=3D20
> >> ...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> >> =
>href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> >> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>Rendering is your=3D20
> >> answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In=3D20
> >> stereo<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the right side=3D3D20<BR>>won't have any =3D
> >>effect. =3D20
> >> Double check to see that their timing is =3D
> >>correct<BR>=3D3D<BR>>too.<BR>>Some=3D20
> >> people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>> "erlilo" =3D
> >><<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in
=
>=3D
> >>message <A=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>href=3D3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>=3D
> >> There=3D20
> >> you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>after=3D20
> >> that=3D3D20<BR>> each stereopair is starting and ending at the =3D
> >>same=3D20
> >> places will do the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>job=3D3D20<BR>> when saving =3D
> >>under a new=3D20
> >> name, just to be sure to go back if =3D
> >>something<BR>=3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some
=
>of=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D20<BR>> stereofiles, you can rendering the =3D
> >>old, hard=3D20
> >> way, as in version 2, =3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D20<BR>> mixing down =3D
> >>each=3D20
> >> stereopair with panning hard left and right and =
>=3D3D<BR>>muting=3D20
> >> all=3D3D20<BR>> other tracks. Then you can import them into the =
>=3D
> >>project=3D20
> >> again on their<BR>=3D3D<BR>>old=3D3D20<BR>> places and give =3D
> >>them new=3D20
> >> names.<BR>><BR>> Erling<BR>><BR>><BR>> =3D
> >>"Dimitrios"=3D20
> >> <<A href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
>=3D
> >>skrev i=3D20
> >> melding =3D3D<BR>>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>> =3D
> >>><BR>> =3D20
> >> > Hi,<BR>> > Thanks for your replies.<BR>> =3D
> >>> What I=3D20
> >> have managed is to have the same start and end for both=3D20
> >> audio<BR>=3D3D<BR>>files<BR>> > just by cutting at cursor =3D
> >>pointy on=3D20
> >> both tracks.<BR>> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =3D
> >>themhas=3D20
> >> different cut points<BR>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
> >>joint<BR>> =3D20
> >> > points , does this matter?<BR>> > If you ask me why =3D
> >>it is=3D20
> >> because these tracks are not actually =3D
> >>stereo<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but<BR>> =3D20
> >> > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove =
>different=3D20
> >> parts<BR>=3D3D<BR>>on=3D3D20<BR>> > each<BR>> > =3D
> >>of the=3D20
> >> "stereo" tracks to make them on time.<BR>> > I want a =3D
> >>stereo=3D20
> >> effect because I wanna expand the stereo=3D20
> >> perspective<BR>=3D3D<BR>>of=3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
> >>them<BR>> >=3D20
> >> pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>> > Have you tried =3D
> >>T-racks=3D20
> >> compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!<BR>> > Amazing =3D
> >>stereo=3D20
> >> result with complete mono compatibility , not like=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>waves=3D3D20<BR>> > imager<BR>> > at=3D20
> >> all...<BR>> > Cheers,<BR>> > =3D
> >>DImitrios<BR>> =3D20
> >> ><BR>> ><BR>> > "Ennio" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20
> >> wrote:<BR>> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both =3D
> >>sides of=3D20
> >> the stereo file must<BR>=3D3D<BR>>be<BR>> > =3D
> >>at<BR>> =3D20
> >> >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down you =
>=3D
> >>can=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>go on<BR>> > the<BR>> >>zoom=3D20
> >> tool)<BR>> >><BR>> >>"erlilo" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in
=
>=3D
> >>message <A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>=3D20
> >> >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no=3D20
> >> different<BR>=3D3D<BR>>holes<BR>> >>in<BR>> =3D20
> >> >>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>> =3D20
> >> >>><BR>> >>> Erling<BR>> =3D20
> >> >>><BR>> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev
=
>i=3D20
> >> melding=3D3D20<BR>> >>> <A=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>href=3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>=3D
> >>=3D20
> >> >>> ><BR>> >>> > Hi,<BR>> =3D20
> >> >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I =3D
> >>try to=3D20
> >> put a<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> >>> > =3D
> >>stereo<BR>> =3D20
> >> >>> > native<BR>> >>> > effect on any =3D
> >>audio=3D20
> >> track on any submix when I try to save I =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>always<BR>> >=3D20
> >> get<BR>> >>> > assertion<BR>> =3D
> >>>>> >=3D20
> >> failed and cannot save either on same name or other...<BR>> =3D20
> >> >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as =3D
> >>I did=3D20
> >> before<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but<BR>> >>don't<BR>> =3D
> >>>>>=3D20
> >> > know why Paris doesn't let to...<BR>> >>> >=3D20
> >> Regards,<BR>> >>> > Dimitrios<BR>> =3D20
> >> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> =3D
> >>>><BR>> =3D20
> >> >><BR>> =3D
> >>>=3D3D20<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=3D20
> >> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> >> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> >> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> >>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> >> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
> >>D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> >> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=3D
> >>ONT=3D20
> >> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rendering is your answer. Don't =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>render=3D20
> >> tracks=3D3D20<BR>>with plugins. In stereo the right side=3D20
> >> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> size=3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>have=3D20
> >> any=3D3D20<BR>>effect. Double check to see that their timing is =
>=3D
> >>correct=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> size=3D3D3D2>Some people have problems with=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>that.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> >> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR >=3D
> >>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D20
> >> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
>=3D
> >>#000000 2px=3D20
> >> solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"erlilo" =3D
> >><<A=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20'>mailto=
>:erlil=3D
> >>o@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>> =3D20
> >> wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Ther=
>e'>n=3D
> >>ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=3D
> >>ere</A><BR>=3D3D<BR>>you=3D20
> >> have=3D3D20<BR>> the problem. I think rendering the tracks and =3D
> >>look after=3D20
> >> that <BR>each<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> stereopair is =3D
> >>starting and=3D20
> >> ending at the same places will do the job=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>><BR>when=3D3D20<BR>> saving under a new name, =3D
> >>just to be=3D20
> >> sure to go back if something are =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>><BR>going=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some =
>of=3D20
> >> the=3D3D20<BR>> <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the =3D
> >>old, hard=3D20
> >> way, as in version 2,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >><BR>mixing down=3D20
> >> each stereopair with panning hard left and right and=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>muting=3D3D20<BR>> all <BR>other tracks. Then =3D
> >>you can=3D20
> >> import them into the project again<BR>=3D3D<BR>>on =3D
> >>their=3D3D20<BR>> old=3D20
> >> <BR>places and give them new=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>=3D
> >>"Dimitrios"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> <<A href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musu=
>rgio=3D
> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>skrev i=3D3D20<BR>> melding <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >>
> >> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
>=3D
> >>g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=3D
> >>><BR>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have =3D
> >>managed=3D20
> >> is to =3D3D<BR>>have=3D3D20<BR>> the same start and end for =3D
> >>both audio=3D20
> >> files<BR>> just by cutting at =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>cursor=3D3D20<BR>> pointy=3D20
> >> on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each of=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>themhas=3D3D20<BR>> different cut points and =3D
> >><BR>>=3D20
> >> joint<BR>> points , does this=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >>matter?<BR>>=3D20
> >> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>actually=3D3D20<BR>> stereo but<BR>> two =3D
> >>takes of=3D20
> >> acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D3D<BR>>tomove=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >>different=3D20
> >> parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>make them=3D3D20<BR>> on time.<BR>> I want =3D
> >>a stereo=3D20
> >> effect because I wanna expand the =3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >>perspective=3D20
> >> of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and=3D20
> >> hard=3D3D20<BR>> right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks =3D
> >>compressor's=3D20
> >> stereo widening =3D3D<BR>>knob ??=3D3D20<BR>> !!<BR>> =3D
> >>Amazing=3D20
> >> stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =
>=3D3D<BR>>not=3D20
> >> like=3D3D20<BR>> waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at=3D20
> >> all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio"=3D20
> >> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20'>ma=
>ilto:e=3D
> >>nnio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>>&n=3D
> >>bsp;=3D20
> >> wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides =3D
> >>of the=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>> file must be<BR>>=3D20
> >> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>sample=3D3D20<BR>> (the furthest down you can go=3D20
> >> on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" =3D
> >><<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@o=
>nlin=3D
> >>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=3D20
> >> wrote in =3D3D<BR>>message <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f=
>4d36=3D
> >>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>Is it=3D3D20<BR>> exactly the same length on each =3D
> >>stereo files=3D20
> >> or no different=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the=3D20
> >> stereo=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> =3D
> >>objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios"=3D20
> >> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musu=
>rgio=3D
> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D20
> >> skrev i =3D3D<BR>>melding=3D3D20<BR>> <BR>>>>=3D20
> >> <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g'>=
>=3D
> >>news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=3D
> >>;>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have =3D
> >>almost=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>finished my=3D3D20<BR>> project mixing and when I =3D
> >>try to put a=3D20
> >> <BR>>>> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >>stereo<BR>>>> >=3D20
> >> native<BR>>>> > effect on any=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>audio=3D3D20<BR>> track on any submix when I try to =3D
> >>save I=3D20
> >> always<BR>> =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>get<BR>>>>=3D3D20<BR>> >=3D20
> >> assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>same name=3D3D20<BR>> or =3D
> >>other...<BR>>>> > The=3D20
> >> problem is that I want to use =3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >>effects as I=3D20
> >> did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>why=3D3D20<BR>> Paris doesn't let =3D
> >>to...<BR>>>>=3D20
> >> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >>
> >> =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>=3D
> >>;>><BR>>><BR>>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> =3D
> >><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR>>=3D
> >><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with Erlilo. Try =
>different channels=20
>or a different</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>submix if you can. Otherwise =
>rebuilding the=20
>mix from</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scratch in a new project is the next =
>best=20
>bet. Copy all</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mixer settings and presets of effects =
>to make it=20
>easier.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
>t;=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:43908331$1@linux">news:43908331$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Dimi=
>trios,=20
> You probably know this, but just to make sure...<BR>If you want to use
=
>stereo=20
> native plugins, you can NOT have any mono plugins<BR>on those tracks.
=
>That=20
> goes for native and EDS.<BR>Do you have any mono eds or native plugs =
>also on=20
> the stereo pair?<BR>Rod<BR>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>>Dear Tom,<BR>>It is not the plugin under =
>other song I=20
> can open a stereo native effect.<BR>>In my project I cannot open =
>ANY stereo=20
> effect.<BR>>Even chainer only...<BR>>I can save my project no =
>problem if=20
> I don't use a stereo native effect.<BR>>ALSO on submix 3 I managed =
>toopen a=20
> stereo native effect but not on submix<BR>>1 or 4 , any suggestion=20
> ?<BR>>Regards,<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Dimitrios,<BR>>>Are =
>you saying=20
> you can save before this stereo plugin<BR>>>is inserted? =
>I'd say=20
> you may have a rouge plugin that<BR>>>your wrapper or Paris just =
>doesn't=20
> like. Try the same thing<BR>>>in a different =
>project. ie:=20
> Same stereo plugin inserted<BR>>>on another stereo pair of =
>tracks. =20
> Now can you save?<BR>>>If so it may be your project. If =
>not it's=20
> probably your plugin.<BR>>><BR>>>Good=20
> luck,<BR>>>Tom<BR>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
>message=20
> =3D<BR>>>news:43906b78$1@linux...<BR>>><BR>>> =
>Thanks for=20
> your suggestions.<BR>>> I have rendered using the hardware =
>method=20
> via adat and achieved one =3D<BR>>>nice<BR>>> =
>compact stereo=20
> track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved all=20
> audio<BR>>=3D<BR>>>files<BR>>> on new folder and =
>saved=20
> under new name I used the clear missing =20
> files<BR>>=3D<BR>>>just<BR>>> before that but =
>again no luck=20
> when I put a stereo native effect on =3D<BR>>>this=20
> stereotrack<BR>>> even without hitting play when I =
>try to=20
> save assertion fails and =3D<BR>>>doesn't<BR>>> =
>allow of any=20
> save !<BR>>> Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when =
>I hit=20
> SAve ...<BR>>> rEGARDS,<BR>>> =20
> dIMITRIOS<BR>>><BR>>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> =
>
> >Dimitrios,<BR>>> >Rendering is your answer. =
>Don't=20
> render tracks with plugins. In =
>=3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >the right side=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>>won't have=20
> any effect. Double check to see that their timing is=20
> =3D<BR>>>correct<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >too.<BR>>> >Some people have problems with=20
> that.<BR>>> >Tom<BR>>> > "erlilo" =
><<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
>message=20
> =3D<BR>>>news:43900b57$1@linux...<BR>>> > =
>There you=20
> have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and=20
> look<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >after=20
> that=3D3D20<BR>>> > each stereopair is starting =
>and ending=20
> at the same places will do<BR>=3D<BR>>>the<BR>>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >job=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>when saving=20
> under a new name, just to be sure to go back if=20
> =3D<BR>>>something<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >are=3D3D20<BR>>> > going wrong again. If the =
>time=20
> alignments are going wrong in some<BR>=3D<BR>>>of =
>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >the=3D3D20<BR>>> > stereofiles, you can =
>rendering the=20
> old, hard way, as in version =
>2,<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >when=3D3D20<BR>>> > mixing down each =
>stereopair with=20
> panning hard left and right and =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>>muting=20
> all=3D3D20<BR>>> > other tracks. Then you can =
>import them=20
> into the project again on =3D<BR>>>their<BR>>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >old=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>places and=20
> give them new names.<BR>>> ><BR>>> =
>> =20
> Erling<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> =
>
> > "Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i =
>melding=20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>>> =
>
> > ><BR>>> > > =
>Hi,<BR>>> =20
> > > Thanks for your replies.<BR>>> > =
>>=20
> What I have managed is to have the same start and end for both=20
> =3D<BR>>>audio<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >files<BR>>> > > just by cutting at cursor =
>pointy=20
> on both tracks.<BR>>> > > Buit insight the =
>stereo=20
> tracks each of themhas different cut =
>=3D<BR>>>points<BR>>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >and=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>>=20
> joint<BR>>> > > points , does this=20
> matter?<BR>>> > > If you ask me why it is =
>because=20
> these tracks are not actually =3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >but<BR>>> > > two =
>takes of=20
> acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different=20
> =3D<BR>>>parts<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >on=3D3D20<BR>>> > > each<BR>>> =
>
> > > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on =
>time.<BR>>> =20
> > > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the =
>stereo=20
> =3D<BR>>>perspective<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >of=3D3D20<BR>>> > > them<BR>>> =
>
> > > pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>>> =20
> > > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening =
>knob ??=20
> !!<BR>>> > > Amazing stereo result with =
>complete mono=20
> compatibility , not like<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>
> >waves=3D3D20<BR>>> > > =
>imager<BR>>> =20
> > > at all...<BR>>> > >=20
> Cheers,<BR>>> > > DImitrios<BR>>> =20
> > ><BR>>> > ><BR>>> =
>> =20
> > "Ennio" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>> > >>The in-points (and =
>out-points) on=20
> both sides of the stereo file<BR>=3D<BR>>>must<BR>>> =
>
> =3D3D<BR>>> >be<BR>>> > >=20
> at<BR>>> > >>the identical spot - down to =
>the=20
> sample (the furthest down you =3D<BR>>>can =
>=3D3D<BR>>> >go=20
> on<BR>>> > > the<BR>>> > =20
> >>zoom tool)<BR>>> > =
>>><BR>>> =20
> > >>"erlilo" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
>message=20
> =3D<BR>>>news:438f4d36@linux...<BR>>> > =
>>>>=20
> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no=20
> =3D<BR>>>different<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >holes<BR>>> > >>in<BR>>> =
>> =20
> >>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>>> > =20
> >>><BR>>> > >>>=20
> Erling<BR>>> > >>><BR>>> =
>> =20
> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i=20
> melding=3D3D20<BR>>> > >>> <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&n=
>bsp;=20
> > >>> ><BR>>> > >>> =
>>=20
> Hi,<BR>>> > >>> > I have almost =
>finished my=20
> project mixing and when I try to =3D<BR>>>put =
>a<BR>>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>> ><BR>>> > >>> =
>>=20
> stereo<BR>>> > >>> > =
>native<BR>>> =20
> > >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix =
>when I=20
> try to save I<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >always<BR>>> > > get<BR>>> =
>> =20
> >>> > assertion<BR>>> > >>> =
>>=20
> failed and cannot save either on same name or =
>other...<BR>>> =20
> > >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo =
>effects=20
> as I did =3D<BR>>>before<BR>>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >but<BR>>> > >>don't<BR>>> =20
> > >>> > know why Paris doesn't let=20
> to...<BR>>> > >>> >=20
> Regards,<BR>>> > >>> >=20
> Dimitrios<BR>>> > >>><BR>>> =20
> > >>><BR>>> > =20
> >><BR>>> > >><BR>>> =
>> =20
> >=3D3D20<BR>>> ><BR>>> =
>><BR>>> =20
> ><BR>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
>4.0=20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>>> =20
> ><HTML><HEAD><BR>>> ><META=20
> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>>> ><META=20
> content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>>> =20
> ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>>> =20
> ></HEAD><BR>>> ><BODY=20
> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>> ><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rendering is =
>your answer.=20
> Don't<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >render=20
> tracks=3D3D20<BR>>> >with plugins. In stereo the right =
>side=20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>>> ><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>>>face=3D3D3DArial =3D3D<BR>>> =
>>size=3D3D3D2>have=20
> any=3D3D20<BR>>> >effect. Double check to see that =
>their timing=20
> is correct =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >too.</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =
>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Some people have problems=20
> with<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >that.</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =
>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =20
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
>5px;<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
>0px"><BR>>> =20
> > <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20'>mailto:erl=
>ilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>>>&n=
>bsp;=20
> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>There'>n=
>ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=
>ere</A><BR>>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >you have=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>> the=20
> problem. I think rendering the tracks and look after that=20
> =3D<BR>>><BR>each<BR>>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> ><BR>>> > stereopair is starting and ending at =
>the=20
> same places will do the =3D<BR>>>job =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> ><BR>when=3D3D20<BR>>> > saving under a =
>new name,=20
> just to be sure to go back if something =3D<BR>>>are =
>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> ><BR>going=3D3D20<BR>>> > wrong again. =
>If the time=20
> alignments are going wrong in some of =
>=3D<BR>>>the=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> > <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, =
>as in=20
> version<BR>>=3D<BR>>>2,<BR>>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >when=3D3D20<BR>>> > <BR>mixing down =
>each=20
> stereopair with panning hard left and right =3D<BR>>>and=20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >muting=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>all=20
> <BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the project=20
> =3D<BR>>>again<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> >on=20
> their=3D3D20<BR>>> > old <BR>places and =
>give them new=20
> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> =
>>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>"Dimitr=
>ios"=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> > <<A href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >skrev =
>i=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> > melding <A=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
> =3D3D<BR>>> =3D<BR>>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
>g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=
>><BR>&g</A>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >t;=3D3D20<BR>>> > Hi,<BR>> Thanks =
>for your=20
> replies.<BR>> What I have managed is to=20
> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>>have=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
> the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by =
>cutting=20
> at<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>>cursor=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> > pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the =
>stereo tracks=20
> each of<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >themhas=3D3D20<BR>>> > different cut points =
>and=20
> <BR>> joint<BR>> points , does =
>this=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> > matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these =
>tracks=20
> are not<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >actually=3D3D20<BR>>> > stereo =
>but<BR>> two=20
> takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >tomove=3D3D20<BR>>> > different parts on =
><BR>>=20
> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to =3D3D<BR>>> =
>>make=20
> them=3D3D20<BR>>> > on time.<BR>> I want =
>a stereo=20
> effect because I wanna expand the =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >stereo=3D3D20<BR>>> > perspective of =
><BR>>=20
> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and =
>hard=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> > right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's =
>stereo=20
> widening =3D3D<BR>>> >knob ??=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>> =20
> !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono =
>compatibility ,=20
> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >not =
>like=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> > waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at =
>all...<BR>>=20
> Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio"=20
> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20'>mailto=
>:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>&g=
>t;> =20
> > wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on =
>both=20
> sides of the =3D3D<BR>>> =
>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> > file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the =
>identical spot -=20
> down to the =3D3D<BR>>> =
>>sample=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
> (the furthest down you can go on<BR>>=20
> the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo"=20
> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=20
> wrote in<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >message=20
> <A=3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D<BR>>> =
>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f4d36=
>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >Is it=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>exactly the=20
> same length on each stereo files or no =
>different=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> > holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the=20
> stereo=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
> =
>objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D20<BR>>>&n=
>bsp;=20
> > Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> =
>"Dimitrios"=20
> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
> skrev<BR>>=3D<BR>>>i =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >melding=3D3D20<BR>>> > <BR>>>> =
>
> <A=3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> =3D<BR>>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=3D=
>3D'>news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>=
>;>>&g=3D3D</A>=3D<BR>>><BR>>> =20
> >t;=3D3D20<BR>>> > ><BR>>>> =
>>=20
> Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >finished my=3D3D20<BR>>> > project mixing and =
>when I=20
> try to put a <BR>>>> >=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>> =20
> stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > =
>effect on=20
> any =3D3D<BR>>> >audio=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>> track on=20
> any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >get<BR>>>>=3D3D20<BR>>> > > =
>
> assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on=20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >same name=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>> or=20
> other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use=20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >stereo=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>effects as=20
> I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > =
>know=20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >why=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>Paris doesn't=20
> let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>>=20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >>=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> =
>>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>&g=
>t;<BR>>><BR>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
> =
><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR>>=
>> =20
> ><BR>>> =
>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><!DOCTYPE=20
> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> =
>Transitional//EN"><BR>>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>><=
>META=20
> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> =3D<BR>>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>>><META =
>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
> =
>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>>>=
></HEAD><BR>>><BODY=20
> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV>&=
>lt;FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Are you saying you can save before=20
> =
>this<BR>>=3D<BR>>>stereo=3D20<BR>>>plugin</FONT><=
>/DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>is inserted? I'd say you may have =
>=3D<BR>>>a=20
> rouge=3D20<BR>>>plugin=20
> that</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>your wrapper or Paris just doesn't =3D<BR>>>like.=20
> Try=3D20<BR>>>the same=20
> thing</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>in a different project. ie: Same=20
> =3D<BR>>>stereo=3D20<BR>>>plugin=20
> inserted</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>on another stereo pair of tracks. =3D<BR>>>Now can =
>
> =
>you=3D20<BR>>>save?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV>=
><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>If so it may be your project. If =
>=3D<BR>>>not=20
> it's=3D20<BR>>>probably your=20
> plugin.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Good=20
> luck,</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20=
><BR>>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>>BORDER-LEFT: =
>#000000=20
> 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>>> =
><DIV>"Dimitrios"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
> wrote in =3D<BR>>>message=3D20<BR>>> <A=20
> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>'>news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>;<BR>Than</A>=3D<BR>>>ks=3D20<BR>>> =20
> for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware =
>method=20
> via<BR>>=3D<BR>>>adat=3D20<BR>>> and achieved one =
>
> nice<BR>compact stereo track with my acoustic =
>=3D<BR>>>guitars, I=20
> even=3D20<BR>>> saved all audio files<BR>on new =
>folder and=20
> saved under new name I =
>used<BR>>=3D<BR>>>the=3D20<BR>>> clear=20
> missing files just<BR>before that but again no luck when I=20
> =3D<BR>>>put a=3D20<BR>>> stereo native effect on =
>this=20
> stereotrack<BR>even without hitting =3D<BR>>>play=20
> =3D20<BR>>> when I try to save assertion fails and=20
> doesn't<BR>allow of any save=20
> =3D<BR>>>!<BR>Note=3D20<BR>>> that assertion =
>failure=20
> appears ONLY when I hit SAve=3D20<BR>>> =20
> ...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom =
>Bruhl"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
>:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
>t;> =20
> =
>wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>R=
>endering=20
> is your=3D20<BR>>> answer. Don't render tracks with =
>plugins.=20
> In=3D20<BR>>> stereo<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the right =
>
> side=3D3D20<BR>>won't have any =3D<BR>>>effect.=20
> =3D20<BR>>> Double check to see that their timing is=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>correct<BR>=3D3D<BR>>too.<BR>>Some=
>=3D20<BR>>> =20
> people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>> =
>"erlilo"=20
> =3D<BR>>><<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=20
> wrote in =3D<BR>>>message <A=3D20<BR>>> =20
> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR'>news:4390=
>0b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>> There=3D20<BR>>> you have the problem. I =
>think=20
> rendering the tracks and look=20
> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>after=3D20<BR>>> =20
> that=3D3D20<BR>> each stereopair is starting and ending at =
>the=20
> =3D<BR>>>same=3D20<BR>>> places will do=20
> the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>job=3D3D20<BR>> when saving=20
> =3D<BR>>>under a new=3D20<BR>>> name, just to be =
>sure to go back=20
> if =
>=3D<BR>>>something<BR>=3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D20<BR>=
>>=20
> =3D20<BR>>> going wrong again. If the time alignments are =
>going=20
> wrong in some of=3D20<BR>>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> stereofiles, you can rendering the =3D<BR>>>old, =
>hard=3D20<BR>>> =20
> way, as in version 2, =3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D20<BR>> =
>mixing down=20
> =3D<BR>>>each=3D20<BR>>> stereopair with panning =
>hard left and=20
> right and =3D3D<BR>>muting=3D20<BR>>> =
>all=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> other tracks. Then you can import them into the=20
> =3D<BR>>>project=3D20<BR>>> again on=20
> their<BR>=3D3D<BR>>old=3D3D20<BR>> places and =
>give=20
> =3D<BR>>>them new=3D20<BR>>> =
>names.<BR>><BR>>=20
> Erling<BR>><BR>><BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>>>"Dimitrios"=3D20<BR>>> <<A =
>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>>skrev i=3D20<BR>>> melding=20
> =3D3D<BR>>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>>>><BR>> =3D20<BR>>> > =
>Hi,<BR>>=20
> > Thanks for your replies.<BR>> =3D<BR>>>> What=20
> I=3D20<BR>>> have managed is to have the same start and =
>end for=20
> both=3D20<BR>>> =
>audio<BR>=3D3D<BR>>files<BR>>=20
> > just by cutting at cursor =3D<BR>>>pointy =
>on=3D20<BR>>> =20
> both tracks.<BR>> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =
>
> =3D<BR>>>themhas=3D20<BR>>> different cut=20
> points<BR>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>> >=20
> =3D<BR>>>joint<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> > points =
>, does this=20
> matter?<BR>> > If you ask me why =3D<BR>>>it=20
> is=3D20<BR>>> because these tracks are not actually=20
> =3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but<BR>>=20
> =3D20<BR>>> > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I =
>had=20
> tomove different=3D20<BR>>> =20
> parts<BR>=3D3D<BR>>on=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>each<BR>>=20
> > =3D<BR>>>of the=3D20<BR>>> "stereo" tracks to =
>make them on=20
> time.<BR>> > I want a =
>=3D<BR>>>stereo=3D20<BR>>> =20
> effect because I wanna expand the stereo=3D20<BR>>> =20
> perspective<BR>=3D3D<BR>>of=3D3D20<BR>> >=20
> =3D<BR>>>them<BR>> >=3D20<BR>>> pl;aying =
>hard left=20
> and hard right.<BR>> > Have you tried=20
> =3D<BR>>>T-racks=3D20<BR>>> compressor's stereo =
>widening knob ??=20
> !!<BR>> > Amazing =
>=3D<BR>>>stereo=3D20<BR>>> result=20
> with complete mono compatibility , not like=3D20<BR>>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>waves=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>imager<BR>> >=20
> at=3D20<BR>>> all...<BR>> > =
>Cheers,<BR>> >=20
> =3D<BR>>>DImitrios<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> =
>><BR>>=20
> ><BR>> > "Ennio" <<A=3D20<BR>>> =
>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:e=
>nnio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>>&g=
>t; =20
> wrote:<BR>> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both=20
> =3D<BR>>>sides of=3D20<BR>>> the stereo file=20
> must<BR>=3D3D<BR>>be<BR>> >=20
> =3D<BR>>>at<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> >>the =
>identical spot=20
> - down to the sample (the furthest down you=20
> =3D<BR>>>can=3D20<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>go =
>on<BR>>=20
> > the<BR>> >>zoom=3D20<BR>>> =
>tool)<BR>>=20
> >><BR>> >>"erlilo" =
><<A=3D20<BR>>> =20
> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=20
> wrote in =3D<BR>>>message <A=3D20<BR>>> =
>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f4d36=
>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>=20
> =3D20<BR>>> >>> Is it exactly the same length on =
>each=20
> stereo files or no=3D20<BR>>> =20
> different<BR>=3D3D<BR>>holes<BR>>=20
> >>in<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> >>> any of =
>the stereo=20
> objects?<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> =
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>"Rob Arsenault" <mani2@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in news:438f9926@linux:
> Thanks man.
>
> Rob
No problem. I like Hubauer's work on those songs.
I've been on the PARIS newsgroups (off and on) for years. I saved a post
from Hubauer on the way he recorded the songs. I'm including the post
below.
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Newsgroups: IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:30:52 -0500
Subject: Re: New PARIS Recording Released! (Christmas Music!)
From: Bill Hubauer <bill@hubauer.com>
In article <3A215D57.2080301@condor.wla.com> Steve Klein,
opto@condor.wla.com writes:
>So tell us about the production. Did you record straight into Paris?
>Details details.
I have a one card system with two 8-in cards.
I tracked the drums using some Audix and AKG mics via the preamps on a
Mackie 24*4 board (took the feed out the insert of each channel)
Electric Guitars are in via a POD, all acoustic guitars, voices, etc.,
via a RODE NT2 and a Joemeek VC1
Bass via Joemeek VC1 and/or a David Eden bass preamp
Keyboards direct.
I used all EDS effects except for using WAVEs RenComp on a number of
things. (For the life of me, I can't figure out the EDS compressor... The
controls are VERY touchy)
>PS You should have made the MP3's sound at least a little bad. I listed
>to a few and I'm wondering, with that quality, who's going to buy the
>album? :0)
Excellent point. You went to the site and found out who we are.
Mission acomplished. If you want to trim your tree to this music, you will
probably buy a CD (it's only 8 bucks)
:-)
Also, I'm HOPING you will tell all your friends about us!
Mastering Note:
I have worked with Sakis in the past on the mastering and have been
pleased with the results. This time however, I was right down to the wire
(it needed to be out by Thanksgiving), and simply didn't have time for
professional mastering.
I mastered it
myself (always a bad idea!) using DYNASONE by Prosoniq. It was a
frustrating experience, but the end result sounds reasonable... Put it this
way, I hear problems with it, but it sounds better than some "professionally
mastered" material that I've heard.
Thanks for listening!
Bill
ps. Please tell anyone who might be interested about this music!!Thad,
I understand your point, and to be sure, Apple could be more cooperative
with third party programmers, but what you have to remember is, most of us
aren't "programmers". Most of us don't want anything to do with the inner
workings of our computers. We just want them to run our chosen software, be
user friendly and not crash. For a "non-programmer" type person like me, the
Mac has been my choice. At first because they were the only game in town
(1986), and now because I have so much legacy software that switching would
cost a fortune, but I digress. ;>) Anyway, I envy you guys for having the
smarts to get open source software to work for you and even the PC guys who
have to know a lot more "technical" stuff to tweak their PC's into smooth
running speed beasts. Now, get to work on an open source brain/computer
interface so I can make the music I hear in my head, instead of the music my
lousy fingers are capable of! ;>)
Tony
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:43908fa7$1@linux...
>
> Well, one of the reasons I am so opposed to proprietary software and
> hardware
> in general is my experience with PARIS. People often confuse free software
> with money cost, which really isn't the point, IHMO. Stallman talked about
> "free as in speech and free as in beer" and the big one to me is the
> first.
> If I need a new perl module or I want to install a new package on my
> Debian
> boxes, and there's a problem I can open up the installer script and see
> what's
> going on. Oh, it's expecting an older C compiler in a different place.
> Find
> and replace "gcc3" with "CC" and off we go. Try that with any other OS.
> That
> kind of control matters *a lot* to me these days.
>
> I also find it supremely ironic that Apple is considered to be a foward
> looking,
> innovative company for making a Unix based OS. They chose the least
> restrictive
> license on planet earth and have grudgingly followed the letter of the law
> for all of code not under the "go ahead and steal it" BSD structure. There
> have been constant bubbling complaints from the KDE crowd about getting
> code
> back to the community. On the other side, stodgy old IBM works with GPL
> code
> as model citizens and even pays for lawyers to defend that code from silly
> law suits.
>
> In any case, there's no way VST will ever make it to GPL'd code so I'm
> stuck
> with one Windows box no matter what. That said, the ALSA guys do really
> good
> work under Linux, it's too bad it will be so underexploited.
>
> TCB
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for sharing your info about your Linux experience, Thad. That's
>>good to hear. My old PARIS Intel box has became my Linux/BeOS box.
>>
>>I've used a lot of different hardware and OS combinations over the
>>years. OSX with its command line, UNIX roots and tons of media
>>production software has covered my primary computing needs fairly well
>>for the last couple of years. However things are steadily progressing in
>
>>Linux land and I think it has a bright future.
>>
>>I hear you about proprietary systems. I'm not against them except when
>>they are used to force out competition through means other than on their
>
>>technical merits, as Microsoft has notably done. And on the flip side,
>>their vulnerability in manipulated markets, as the Amiga and BeOS ably
>>demonstrated. Open source has become the best way to survive in this
>>environment. Even Apple is participating in open source to an extent at
>
>>the kernel and browser levels.
>>
>>I am not opposed to companies making money on their technology when
>>competing fairly on merits and pushing the envelope to provide needed
>>tools. I'm happy to pay fair prices for hardware and software when they
>
>>meets my needs, and to support talented engineers in the quest. I
>>originally bought PARIS for that reason.
>>
>>But using monopolistic leveraging, Orwellian marketspeak, and swallowing
>
>>other companies while killing a lot of great competitive tech and
>>promoting marginal tech, that kind of behavior doesn't endear much
>>respect.
>>
>>I got into Macs this time around because of OSX and the continued
>>strides being made with OSX production software. After years of
>>misdirection with OS7-8-9 and failed attempts to significantly progress,
>
>>with OSX Apple was able to push the envelope to provide improved
>>technology for computing, media production, and lately, media
>>distribution.
>>
>>I'm not saying Apple is perfect, there are disadvantages to some of
>>their decisions and they have had a lot of reports from me to help them
>
>>improve. :^) But the advantages of OSX, generally solid hardware like
>>the current dual G5s, and a steady stream of capable software transcend
>
>>the disadvantages right now.
>>
>>Good luck with your computer and music pursuits! When the time comes to
>
>>move your music production over to Linux I'd love to hear how it goes.
>>
>>Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>TCB wrote:
>>> I was just busting your chops a bit. I yam what I yam.
>>>
>>> On the "desktop" OS front I have converted 100% to Debian GNU/Linux. I
> still
>>> have one M$oft box for my audio stuff (until Live, CubaseSX, VST, and
> a ton
>>> of other things get ported to GNU/Linux I have no choice), but
>>> everything
>>> else runs on GNU/Linux. I have to say whenver I use a desktop that isn't
>>> Gnome and doesn't give me immediate access to a powerful command line
> I feel
>>> like I'm running on one leg. There are some bumps along the road, and
> I have
>>> to install some non free software for remote access to work (including
> some
>>> kernel patches that are a PITA), but it's been worth every bit of the
> effort.
>>> Now that I'm doing c
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4;otenet.gr> skrev i melding=3D3D20
> >> > >>> news:438f3760$1@linux...
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > Hi,
> >> > >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I try =
>to =3D
> >>put a
> >> =3D3D
> >> >
> >> > >>> > stereo
> >> > >>> > native
> >> > >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix when I try to =
>save I
> >=3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >always
> >> > > get
> >> > >>> > assertion
> >> > >>> > failed and cannot save either on same name or other...
> >> > >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as I did
=
>=3D
> >>before
> >> =3D3D
> >> >but
> >> > >>don't
> >> > >>> > know why Paris doesn't let to...
> >> > >>> > Regards,
> >> > >>> > Dimitrios
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >=3D3D20
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> >> ><HTML><HEAD>
> >> ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
>=3D3D
> >> >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> >> ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> >> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> >> ></HEAD>
> >> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rendering is your =
>answer. Don't
> >=3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >render tracks=3D3D20
> >> >with plugins. In stereo the right side </FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT =3D
> >>face=3D3D3DArial =3D3D
> >> >size=3D3D3D2>have any=3D3D20
> >> >effect. Double check to see that their timing is correct =3D3D
> >> >too.</FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Some people have =
>problems with
> =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >that.</FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> >> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> >> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:
=
>5px;
> =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >> > <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D3D
> >> >href=3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20
> >> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20
> >> > =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=
>ere
> >> =3D3D
> >> >you have=3D3D20
> >> > the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look after that =
>=3D
> >><BR>each
> >> =3D3D
> >> >
> >> > stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will do =
>the =3D
> >>job =3D3D
> >> ><BR>when=3D3D20
> >> > saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if =
>something =3D
> >>are =3D3D
> >> ><BR>going=3D3D20
> >> > wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of
=
>=3D
> >>the=3D3D20
> >> > <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in =
>version
> >=3D
> >>2,
> >> =3D3D
> >> >when=3D3D20
> >> > <BR>mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and =
>right =3D
> >>and =3D3D
> >> >muting=3D3D20
> >> > all <BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the project
=
>=3D
> >>again
> >> =3D3D
> >> >on their=3D3D20
> >> > old <BR>places and give them new =3D3D
> >> >names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>"Dimitrios"=3D3D20
> >> > <<A =
>href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >skrev i=3D3D20
> >> > melding <A=3D3D20
> >> > =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>href=3D3D3D"news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><B=
>R>&g=3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >t;=3D3D20
> >> > Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have managed is =
>to =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >have=3D3D20
> >> > the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by =
>cutting at
> >=3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >cursor=3D3D20
> >> > pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each
=
>of
> >=3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >themhas=3D3D20
> >> > different cut points and <BR>> joint<BR>> points , does =
>this=3D3D20
> >> > matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are =
>not
> =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >actually=3D3D20
> >> > stereo but<BR>> two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had =
>=3D3D
> >> >tomove=3D3D20
> >> > different parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to =
>=3D3D
> >> >make them=3D3D20
> >> > on time.<BR>> I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the
=
>=3D3D
> >> >stereo=3D3D20
> >> > perspective of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and =
>hard=3D3D20
> >> > right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening
=
>=3D3D
> >> >knob ??=3D3D20
> >> > !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility
=
>, =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >not like=3D3D20
> >> > waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D20
> >> > DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio" <<A=3D3D20
> >> > =
>href=3D3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20
> >> > wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the
=
>=3D3D
> >> >stereo=3D3D20
> >> > file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the =
>=3D3D
> >> >sample=3D3D20
> >> > (the furthest down you can go on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D20
> >> > tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" <<A=3D3D20
> >> > href=3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> =
>wrote in
> =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >message <A=3D3D20
> >> > =3D3D
> >> =
>>href=3D3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>>>> =
>=3D3D
> >> >Is it=3D3D20
> >> > exactly the same length on each stereo files or no =
>different=3D3D20
> >> > holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the stereo=3D3D20
> >> > objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D20
> >> > Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20
> >> > href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>
=
>skrev
> >=3D
> >>i =3D3D
> >> >melding=3D3D20
> >> > <BR>>>> <A=3D3D20
> >> > =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>href=3D3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&=
>g=3D3D=3D
> >>
> >> >t;=3D3D20
> >> > ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D3D
> >> >finished my=3D3D20
> >> > project mixing and when I try to put a <BR>>>> >=3D3D20
> >> > stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > effect on any =3D3D
> >> >audio=3D3D20
> >> > track on any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >get<BR>>>>=3D3D20
> >> > > assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on =3D3D
> >> >same name=3D3D20
> >> > or other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use =3D3D
> >> >stereo=3D3D20
> >> > effects as I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know =3D3D
> >> >why=3D3D20
> >> > Paris doesn't let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D20
> >> > =3D3D
> >> >Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>=3D3D
> >> >=3D3D20
> >> > <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> >><HTML><HEAD>
> >><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> >><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> >><STYLE></STYLE>
> >></HEAD>
> >><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Are you saying you can save =
>before this
> >=3D
> >>stereo=3D20
> >>plugin</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>is inserted? I'd say you may =
>have =3D
> >>a rouge=3D20
> >>plugin that</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>your wrapper or Paris just =
>doesn't =3D
> >>like. Try=3D20
> >>the same thing</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>in a different project. ie: =
>Same =3D
> >>stereo=3D20
> >>plugin inserted</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>on another stereo pair of =
>tracks. =3D
> >>Now can you=3D20
> >>save?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>If so it may be your project. =
>If =3D
> >>not it's=3D20
> >>probably your plugin.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
=
>=3D
> >>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote
=
>in =3D
> >>message=3D20
> >> <A =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D"news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>=
>Than=3D
> >>ks=3D20
> >> for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware method
=
>via
> >=3D
> >>adat=3D20
> >> and achieved one nice<BR>compact stereo track with my acoustic =3D
> >>guitars, I even=3D20
> >> saved all audio files<BR>on new folder and saved under new name I
=
>used
> >=3D
> >>the=3D20
> >> clear missing files just<BR>before that but again no luck when I =
>=3D
> >>put a=3D20
> >> stereo native effect on this stereotrack<BR>even without hitting =
>=3D
> >>play =3D20
> >> when I try to save assertion fails and doesn't<BR>allow of any =
>save =3D
> >>!<BR>Note=3D20
> >> that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve=3D20
> >> ...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> >> =
>href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> >> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>Rendering is your=3D20
> >> answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In=3D20
> >> stereo<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the right side=3D3D20<BR>>won't have any =3D
> >>effect. =3D20
> >> Double check to see that their timing is =3D
> >>correct<BR>=3D3D<BR>>too.<BR>>Some=3D20
> >> people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>> "erlilo" =3D
> >><<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in
=
>=3D
> >>message <A=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>href=3D3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>=3D
> >> There=3D20
> >> you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>after=3D20
> >> that=3D3D20<BR>> each stereopair is starting and ending at the =3D
> >>same=3D20
> >> places will do the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>job=3D3D20<BR>> when saving =3D
> >>under a new=3D20
> >> name, just to be sure to go back if =3D
> >>something<BR>=3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some
=
>of=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D20<BR>> stereofiles, you can rendering the =3D
> >>old, hard=3D20
> >> way, as in version 2, =3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D20<BR>> mixing down =3D
> >>each=3D20
> >> stereopair with panning hard left and right and =
>=3D3D<BR>>muting=3D20
> >> all=3D3D20<BR>> other tracks. Then you can import them into the =
>=3D
> >>project=3D20
> >> again on their<BR>=3D3D<BR>>old=3D3D20<BR>> places and give =3D
> >>them new=3D20
> >> names.<BR>><BR>> Erling<BR>><BR>><BR>> =3D
> >>"Dimitrios"=3D20
> >> <<A href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
>=3D
> >>skrev i=3D20
> >> melding =3D3D<BR>>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>> =3D
> >>><BR>> =3D20
> >> > Hi,<BR>> > Thanks for your replies.<BR>> =3D
> >>> What I=3D20
> >> have managed is to have the same start and end for both=3D20
> >> audio<BR>=3D3D<BR>>files<BR>> > just by cutting at cursor =3D
> >>pointy on=3D20
> >> both tracks.<BR>> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =3D
> >>themhas=3D20
> >> different cut points<BR>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
> >>joint<BR>> =3D20
> >> > points , does this matter?<BR>> > If you ask me why =3D
> >>it is=3D20
> >> because these tracks are not actually =3D
> >>stereo<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but<BR>> =3D20
> >> > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove =
>different=3D20
> >> parts<BR>=3D3D<BR>>on=3D3D20<BR>> > each<BR>> > =3D
> >>of the=3D20
> >> "stereo" tracks to make them on time.<BR>> > I want a =3D
> >>stereo=3D20
> >> effect because I wanna expand the stereo=3D20
> >> perspective<BR>=3D3D<BR>>of=3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
> >>them<BR>> >=3D20
> >> pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>> > Have you tried =3D
> >>T-racks=3D20
> >> compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!<BR>> > Amazing =3D
> >>stereo=3D20
> >> result with complete mono compatibility , not like=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>waves=3D3D20<BR>> > imager<BR>> > at=3D20
> >> all...<BR>> > Cheers,<BR>> > =3D
> >>DImitrios<BR>> =3D20
> >> ><BR>> ><BR>> > "Ennio" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20
> >> wrote:<BR>> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both =3D
> >>sides of=3D20
> >> the stereo file must<BR>=3D3D<BR>>be<BR>> > =3D
> >>at<BR>> =3D20
> >> >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down you =
>=3D
> >>can=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>go on<BR>> > the<BR>> >>zoom=3D20
> >> tool)<BR>> >><BR>> >>"erlilo" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in
=
>=3D
> >>message <A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>=3D20
> >> >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no=3D20
> >> different<BR>=3D3D<BR>>holes<BR>> >>in<BR>> =3D20
> >> >>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>> =3D20
> >> >>><BR>> >>> Erling<BR>> =3D20
> >> >>><BR>> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev
=
>i=3D20
> >> melding=3D3D20<BR>> >>> <A=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>href=3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>=3D
> >>=3D20
> >> >>> ><BR>> >>> > Hi,<BR>> =3D20
> >> >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I =3D
> >>try to=3D20
> >> put a<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> >>> > =3D
> >>stereo<BR>> =3D20
> >> >>> > native<BR>> >>> > effect on any =3D
> >>audio=3D20
> >> track on any submix when I try to save I =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>always<BR>> >=3D20
> >> get<BR>> >>> > assertion<BR>> =3D
> >>>>> >=3D20
> >> failed and cannot save either on same name or other...<BR>> =3D20
> >> >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as =3D
> >>I did=3D20
> >> before<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but<BR>> >>don't<BR>> =3D
> >>>>>=3D20
> >> > know why Paris doesn't let to...<BR>> >>> >=3D20
> >> Regards,<BR>> >>> > Dimitrios<BR>> =3D20
> >> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> =3D
> >>>><BR>> =3D20
> >> >><BR>> =3D
> >>>=3D3D20<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=3D20
> >> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> >> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> >> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> >>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> >> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
> >>D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> >> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=3D
> >>ONT=3D20
> >> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rendering is your answer. Don't =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>render=3D20
> >> tracks=3D3D20<BR>>with plugins. In stereo the right side=3D20
> >> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> size=3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>have=3D20
> >> any=3D3D20<BR>>effect. Double check to see that their timing is =
>=3D
> >>correct=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> size=3D3D3D2>Some people have problems with=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>that.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> >> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR >=3D
> >>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D20
> >> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
>=3D
> >>#000000 2px=3D20
> >> solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"erlilo" =3D
> >><<A=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20'>mailto=
>:erlil=3D
> >>o@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>> =3D20
> >> wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Ther=
>e'>n=3D
> >>ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=3D
> >>ere</A><BR>=3D3D<BR>>you=3D20
> >> have=3D3D20<BR>> the problem. I think rendering the tracks and =3D
> >>look after=3D20
> >> that <BR>each<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> stereopair is =3D
> >>starting and=3D20
> >> ending at the same places will do the job=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>><BR>when=3D3D20<BR>> saving under a new name, =3D
> >>just to be=3D20
> >> sure to go back if something are =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>><BR>going=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some =
>of=3D20
> >> the=3D3D20<BR>> <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the =3D
> >>old, hard=3D20
> >> way, as in version 2,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >><BR>mixing down=3D20
> >> each stereopair with panning hard left and right and=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>muting=3D3D20<BR>> all <BR>other tracks. Then =3D
> >>you can=3D20
> >> import them into the project again<BR>=3D3D<BR>>on =3D
> >>their=3D3D20<BR>> old=3D20
> >> <BR>places and give them new=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>=3D
> >>"Dimitrios"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> <<A href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musu=
>rgio=3D
> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>skrev i=3D3D20<BR>> melding <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >>
> >> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
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> >>g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=3D
> >>><BR>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have =3D
> >>managed=3D20
> >> is to =3D3D<BR>>have=3D3D20<BR>> the same start and end for =3D
> >>both audio=3D20
> >> files<BR>> just by cutting at =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>cursor=3D3D20<BR>> pointy=3D20
> >> on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each of=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>themhas=3D3D20<BR>> different cut points and =3D
> >><BR>>=3D20
> >> joint<BR>> points , does this=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >>matter?<BR>>=3D20
> >> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>actually=3D3D20<BR>> stereo but<BR>> two =3D
> >>takes of=3D20
> >> acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D3D<BR>>tomove=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >>different=3D20
> >> parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>make them=3D3D20<BR>> on time.<BR>> I want =3D
> >>a stereo=3D20
> >> effect because I wanna expand the =3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >>perspective=3D20
> >> of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and=3D20
> >> hard=3D3D20<BR>> right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks =3D
> >>compressor's=3D20
> >> stereo widening =3D3D<BR>>knob ??=3D3D20<BR>> !!<BR>> =3D
> >>Amazing=3D20
> >> stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =
>=3D3D<BR>>not=3D20
> >> like=3D3D20<BR>> waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at=3D20
> >> all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio"=3D20
> >> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20'>ma=
>ilto:e=3D
> >>nnio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>>&n=3D
> >>bsp;=3D20
> >> wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides =3D
> >>of the=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>> file must be<BR>>=3D20
> >> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>sample=3D3D20<BR>> (the furthest down you can go=3D20
> >> on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" =3D
> >><<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@o=
>nlin=3D
> >>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=3D20
> >> wrote in =3D3D<BR>>message <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f=
>4d36=3D
> >>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>Is it=3D3D20<BR>> exactly the same length on each =3D
> >>stereo files=3D20
> >> or no different=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the=3D20
> >> stereo=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> =3D
> >>objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios"=3D20
> >> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musu=
>rgio=3D
> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D20
> >> skrev i =3D3D<BR>>melding=3D3D20<BR>> <BR>>>>=3D20
> >> <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g'>=
>=3D
> >>news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=3D
> >>;>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have =3D
> >>almost=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>finished my=3D3D20<BR>> project mixing and when I =3D
> >>try to put a=3D20
> >> <BR>>>> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >>stereo<BR>>>> >=3D20
> >> native<BR>>>> > effect on any=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>audio=3D3D20<BR>> track on any submix when I try to =3D
> >>save I=3D20
> >> always<BR>> =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>get<BR>>>>=3D3D20<BR>> >=3D20
> >> assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>same name=3D3D20<BR>> or =3D
> >>other...<BR>>>> > The=3D20
> >> problem is that I want to use =3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >>effects as I=3D20
> >> did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>why=3D3D20<BR>> Paris doesn't let =3D
> >>to...<BR>>>>=3D20
> >> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >>
> >> =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>=3D
> >>;>><BR>>><BR>>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >> =3D
> >><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR>>=3D
> >><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with Erlilo. Try =
>different channels=20
>or a different</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>submix if you can. Otherwise =
>rebuilding the=20
>mix from</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scratch in a new project is the next =
>best=20
>bet. Copy all</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mixer settings and presets of effects =
>to make it=20
>easier.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
>t;=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:43908331$1@linux">news:43908331$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Dimi=
>trios,=20
> You probably know this, but just to make sure...<BR>If you want to use
=
>stereo=20
> native plugins, you can NOT have any mono plugins<BR>on those tracks.
=
>That=20
> goes for native and EDS.<BR>Do you have any mono eds or native plugs =
>also on=20
> the stereo pair?<BR>Rod<BR>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>>Dear Tom,<BR>>It is not the plugin under =
>other song I=20
> can open a stereo native effect.<BR>>In my project I cannot open =
>ANY stereo=20
> effect.<BR>>Even chainer only...<BR>>I can save my project no =
>problem if=20
> I don't use a stereo native effect.<BR>>ALSO on submix 3 I managed =
>toopen a=20
> stereo native effect but not on submix<BR>>1 or 4 , any suggestion=20
> ?<BR>>Regards,<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Dimitrios,<BR>>>Are =
>you saying=20
> you can save before this stereo plugin<BR>>>is inserted? =
>I'd say=20
> you may have a rouge plugin that<BR>>>your wrapper or Paris just =
>doesn't=20
> like. Try the same thing<BR>>>in a different =
>project. ie:=20
> Same stereo plugin inserted<BR>>>on another stereo pair of =
>tracks. =20
> Now can you save?<BR>>>If so it may be your project. If =
>not it's=20
> probably your plugin.<BR>>><BR>>>Good=20
> luck,<BR>>>Tom<BR>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
>message=20
> =3D<BR>>>news:43906b78$1@linux...<BR>>><BR>>> =
>Thanks for=20
> your suggestions.<BR>>> I have rendered using the hardware =
>method=20
> via adat and achieved one =3D<BR>>>nice<BR>>> =
>compact stereo=20
> track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved all=20
> audio<BR>>=3D<BR>>>files<BR>>> on new folder and =
>saved=20
> under new name I used the clear missing =20
> files<BR>>=3D<BR>>>just<BR>>> before that but =
>again no luck=20
> when I put a stereo native effect on =3D<BR>>>this=20
> stereotrack<BR>>> even without hitting play when I =
>try to=20
> save assertion fails and =3D<BR>>>doesn't<BR>>> =
>allow of any=20
> save !<BR>>> Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when =
>I hit=20
> SAve ...<BR>>> rEGARDS,<BR>>> =20
> dIMITRIOS<BR>>><BR>>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> =
>
> >Dimitrios,<BR>>> >Rendering is your answer. =
>Don't=20
> render tracks with plugins. In =
>=3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >the right side=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>>won't have=20
> any effect. Double check to see that their timing is=20
> =3D<BR>>>correct<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >too.<BR>>> >Some people have problems with=20
> that.<BR>>> >Tom<BR>>> > "erlilo" =
><<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
>message=20
> =3D<BR>>>news:43900b57$1@linux...<BR>>> > =
>There you=20
> have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and=20
> look<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >after=20
> that=3D3D20<BR>>> > each stereopair is starting =
>and ending=20
> at the same places will do<BR>=3D<BR>>>the<BR>>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >job=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>when saving=20
> under a new name, just to be sure to go back if=20
> =3D<BR>>>something<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >are=3D3D20<BR>>> > going wrong again. If the =
>time=20
> alignments are going wrong in some<BR>=3D<BR>>>of =
>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >the=3D3D20<BR>>> > stereofiles, you can =
>rendering the=20
> old, hard way, as in version =
>2,<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >when=3D3D20<BR>>> > mixing down each =
>stereopair with=20
> panning hard left and right and =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>>muting=20
> all=3D3D20<BR>>> > other tracks. Then you can =
>import them=20
> into the project again on =3D<BR>>>their<BR>>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >old=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>places and=20
> give them new names.<BR>>> ><BR>>> =
>> =20
> Erling<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> =
>
> > "Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i =
>melding=20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>>> =
>
> > ><BR>>> > > =
>Hi,<BR>>> =20
> > > Thanks for your replies.<BR>>> > =
>>=20
> What I have managed is to have the same start and end for both=20
> =3D<BR>>>audio<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >files<BR>>> > > just by cutting at cursor =
>pointy=20
> on both tracks.<BR>>> > > Buit insight the =
>stereo=20
> tracks each of themhas different cut =
>=3D<BR>>>points<BR>>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >and=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>>=20
> joint<BR>>> > > points , does this=20
> matter?<BR>>> > > If you ask me why it is =
>because=20
> these tracks are not actually =3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >but<BR>>> > > two =
>takes of=20
> acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different=20
> =3D<BR>>>parts<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >on=3D3D20<BR>>> > > each<BR>>> =
>
> > > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on =
>time.<BR>>> =20
> > > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the =
>stereo=20
> =3D<BR>>>perspective<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >of=3D3D20<BR>>> > > them<BR>>> =
>
> > > pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>>> =20
> > > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening =
>knob ??=20
> !!<BR>>> > > Amazing stereo result with =
>complete mono=20
> compatibility , not like<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>
> >waves=3D3D20<BR>>> > > =
>imager<BR>>> =20
> > > at all...<BR>>> > >=20
> Cheers,<BR>>> > > DImitrios<BR>>> =20
> > ><BR>>> > ><BR>>> =
>> =20
> > "Ennio" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>> > >>The in-points (and =
>out-points) on=20
> both sides of the stereo file<BR>=3D<BR>>>must<BR>>> =
>
> =3D3D<BR>>> >be<BR>>> > >=20
> at<BR>>> > >>the identical spot - down to =
>the=20
> sample (the furthest down you =3D<BR>>>can =
>=3D3D<BR>>> >go=20
> on<BR>>> > > the<BR>>> > =20
> >>zoom tool)<BR>>> > =
>>><BR>>> =20
> > >>"erlilo" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
>message=20
> =3D<BR>>>news:438f4d36@linux...<BR>>> > =
>>>>=20
> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no=20
> =3D<BR>>>different<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >holes<BR>>> > >>in<BR>>> =
>> =20
> >>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>>> > =20
> >>><BR>>> > >>>=20
> Erling<BR>>> > >>><BR>>> =
>> =20
> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i=20
> melding=3D3D20<BR>>> > >>> <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&n=
>bsp;=20
> > >>> ><BR>>> > >>> =
>>=20
> Hi,<BR>>> > >>> > I have almost =
>finished my=20
> project mixing and when I try to =3D<BR>>>put =
>a<BR>>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>> ><BR>>> > >>> =
>>=20
> stereo<BR>>> > >>> > =
>native<BR>>> =20
> > >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix =
>when I=20
> try to save I<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >always<BR>>> > > get<BR>>> =
>> =20
> >>> > assertion<BR>>> > >>> =
>>=20
> failed and cannot save either on same name or =
>other...<BR>>> =20
> > >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo =
>effects=20
> as I did =3D<BR>>>before<BR>>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >but<BR>>> > >>don't<BR>>> =20
> > >>> > know why Paris doesn't let=20
> to...<BR>>> > >>> >=20
> Regards,<BR>>> > >>> >=20
> Dimitrios<BR>>> > >>><BR>>> =20
> > >>><BR>>> > =20
> >><BR>>> > >><BR>>> =
>> =20
> >=3D3D20<BR>>> ><BR>>> =
>><BR>>> =20
> ><BR>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
>4.0=20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>>> =20
> ><HTML><HEAD><BR>>> ><META=20
> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>>> ><META=20
> content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>>> =20
> ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>>> =20
> ></HEAD><BR>>> ><BODY=20
> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>> ><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rendering is =
>your answer.=20
> Don't<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >render=20
> tracks=3D3D20<BR>>> >with plugins. In stereo the right =
>side=20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>>> ><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>>>face=3D3D3DArial =3D3D<BR>>> =
>>size=3D3D3D2>have=20
> any=3D3D20<BR>>> >effect. Double check to see that =
>their timing=20
> is correct =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >too.</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =
>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Some people have problems=20
> with<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >that.</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =
>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =20
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
>5px;<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
>0px"><BR>>> =20
> > <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20'>mailto:erl=
>ilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>>>&n=
>bsp;=20
> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>There'>n=
>ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=
>ere</A><BR>>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >you have=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>> the=20
> problem. I think rendering the tracks and look after that=20
> =3D<BR>>><BR>each<BR>>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> ><BR>>> > stereopair is starting and ending at =
>the=20
> same places will do the =3D<BR>>>job =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> ><BR>when=3D3D20<BR>>> > saving under a =
>new name,=20
> just to be sure to go back if something =3D<BR>>>are =
>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> ><BR>going=3D3D20<BR>>> > wrong again. =
>If the time=20
> alignments are going wrong in some of =
>=3D<BR>>>the=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> > <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, =
>as in=20
> version<BR>>=3D<BR>>>2,<BR>>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >when=3D3D20<BR>>> > <BR>mixing down =
>each=20
> stereopair with panning hard left and right =3D<BR>>>and=20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >muting=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>all=20
> <BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the project=20
> =3D<BR>>>again<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> >on=20
> their=3D3D20<BR>>> > old <BR>places and =
>give them new=20
> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> =
>>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>"Dimitr=
>ios"=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> > <<A href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >skrev =
>i=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> > melding <A=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
> =3D3D<BR>>> =3D<BR>>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
>g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=
>><BR>&g</A>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >t;=3D3D20<BR>>> > Hi,<BR>> Thanks =
>for your=20
> replies.<BR>> What I have managed is to=20
> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>>have=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
> the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by =
>cutting=20
> at<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>>cursor=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> > pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the =
>stereo tracks=20
> each of<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >themhas=3D3D20<BR>>> > different cut points =
>and=20
> <BR>> joint<BR>> points , does =
>this=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> > matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these =
>tracks=20
> are not<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >actually=3D3D20<BR>>> > stereo =
>but<BR>> two=20
> takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >tomove=3D3D20<BR>>> > different parts on =
><BR>>=20
> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to =3D3D<BR>>> =
>>make=20
> them=3D3D20<BR>>> > on time.<BR>> I want =
>a stereo=20
> effect because I wanna expand the =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >stereo=3D3D20<BR>>> > perspective of =
><BR>>=20
> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and =
>hard=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> > right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's =
>stereo=20
> widening =3D3D<BR>>> >knob ??=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>> =20
> !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono =
>compatibility ,=20
> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >not =
>like=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> > waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at =
>all...<BR>>=20
> Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio"=20
> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20'>mailto=
>:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>&g=
>t;> =20
> > wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on =
>both=20
> sides of the =3D3D<BR>>> =
>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> > file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the =
>identical spot -=20
> down to the =3D3D<BR>>> =
>>sample=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
> (the furthest down you can go on<BR>>=20
> the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo"=20
> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=20
> wrote in<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >message=20
> <A=3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D<BR>>> =
>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f4d36=
>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >Is it=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>exactly the=20
> same length on each stereo files or no =
>different=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> > holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the=20
> stereo=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
> =
>objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D20<BR>>>&n=
>bsp;=20
> > Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> =
>"Dimitrios"=20
> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
> skrev<BR>>=3D<BR>>>i =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >melding=3D3D20<BR>>> > <BR>>>> =
>
> <A=3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> =3D<BR>>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=3D=
>3D'>news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>=
>;>>&g=3D3D</A>=3D<BR>>><BR>>> =20
> >t;=3D3D20<BR>>> > ><BR>>>> =
>>=20
> Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >finished my=3D3D20<BR>>> > project mixing and =
>when I=20
> try to put a <BR>>>> >=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>> =20
> stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > =
>effect on=20
> any =3D3D<BR>>> >audio=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>> track on=20
> any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >get<BR>>>>=3D3D20<BR>>> > > =
>
> assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on=20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >same name=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>> or=20
> other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use=20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >stereo=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>effects as=20
> I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > =
>know=20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >why=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>Paris doesn't=20
> let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>>=20
> =3D3D<BR>>> >>=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
> =
>>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>&g=
>t;<BR>>><BR>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
> >=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
> =
><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR>>=
>> =20
> ><BR>>> =
>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><!DOCTYPE=20
> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> =
>Transitional//EN"><BR>>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>><=
>META=20
> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> =3D<BR>>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>>><META =
>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
> =
>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>>>=
></HEAD><BR>>><BODY=20
> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV>&=
>lt;FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Are you saying you can save before=20
> =
>this<BR>>=3D<BR>>>stereo=3D20<BR>>>plugin</FONT><=
>/DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>is inserted? I'd say you may have =
>=3D<BR>>>a=20
> rouge=3D20<BR>>>plugin=20
> that</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>your wrapper or Paris just doesn't =3D<BR>>>like.=20
> Try=3D20<BR>>>the same=20
> thing</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>in a different project. ie: Same=20
> =3D<BR>>>stereo=3D20<BR>>>plugin=20
> inserted</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>on another stereo pair of tracks. =3D<BR>>>Now can =
>
> =
>you=3D20<BR>>>save?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV>=
><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>If so it may be your project. If =
>=3D<BR>>>not=20
> it's=3D20<BR>>>probably your=20
> plugin.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Good=20
> luck,</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20=
><BR>>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>>BORDER-LEFT: =
>#000000=20
> 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>>> =
><DIV>"Dimitrios"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
> wrote in =3D<BR>>>message=3D20<BR>>> <A=20
> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>'>news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>;<BR>Than</A>=3D<BR>>>ks=3D20<BR>>> =20
> for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware =
>method=20
> via<BR>>=3D<BR>>>adat=3D20<BR>>> and achieved one =
>
> nice<BR>compact stereo track with my acoustic =
>=3D<BR>>>guitars, I=20
> even=3D20<BR>>> saved all audio files<BR>on new =
>folder and=20
> saved under new name I =
>used<BR>>=3D<BR>>>the=3D20<BR>>> clear=20
> missing files just<BR>before that but again no luck when I=20
> =3D<BR>>>put a=3D20<BR>>> stereo native effect on =
>this=20
> stereotrack<BR>even without hitting =3D<BR>>>play=20
> =3D20<BR>>> when I try to save assertion fails and=20
> doesn't<BR>allow of any save=20
> =3D<BR>>>!<BR>Note=3D20<BR>>> that assertion =
>failure=20
> appears ONLY when I hit SAve=3D20<BR>>> =20
> ...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom =
>Bruhl"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
>:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
>t;> =20
> =
>wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>R=
>endering=20
> is your=3D20<BR>>> answer. Don't render tracks with =
>plugins.=20
> In=3D20<BR>>> stereo<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the right =
>
> side=3D3D20<BR>>won't have any =3D<BR>>>effect.=20
> =3D20<BR>>> Double check to see that their timing is=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>correct<BR>=3D3D<BR>>too.<BR>>Some=
>=3D20<BR>>> =20
> people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>> =
>"erlilo"=20
> =3D<BR>>><<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=20
> wrote in =3D<BR>>>message <A=3D20<BR>>> =20
> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR'>news:4390=
>0b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>> There=3D20<BR>>> you have the problem. I =
>think=20
> rendering the tracks and look=20
> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>after=3D20<BR>>> =20
> that=3D3D20<BR>> each stereopair is starting and ending at =
>the=20
> =3D<BR>>>same=3D20<BR>>> places will do=20
> the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>job=3D3D20<BR>> when saving=20
> =3D<BR>>>under a new=3D20<BR>>> name, just to be =
>sure to go back=20
> if =
>=3D<BR>>>something<BR>=3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D20<BR>=
>>=20
> =3D20<BR>>> going wrong again. If the time alignments are =
>going=20
> wrong in some of=3D20<BR>>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> stereofiles, you can rendering the =3D<BR>>>old, =
>hard=3D20<BR>>> =20
> way, as in version 2, =3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D20<BR>> =
>mixing down=20
> =3D<BR>>>each=3D20<BR>>> stereopair with panning =
>hard left and=20
> right and =3D3D<BR>>muting=3D20<BR>>> =
>all=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> other tracks. Then you can import them into the=20
> =3D<BR>>>project=3D20<BR>>> again on=20
> their<BR>=3D3D<BR>>old=3D3D20<BR>> places and =
>give=20
> =3D<BR>>>them new=3D20<BR>>> =
>names.<BR>><BR>>=20
> Erling<BR>><BR>><BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>>>"Dimitrios"=3D20<BR>>> <<A =
>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>>skrev i=3D20<BR>>> melding=20
> =3D3D<BR>>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>>>><BR>> =3D20<BR>>> > =
>Hi,<BR>>=20
> > Thanks for your replies.<BR>> =3D<BR>>>> What=20
> I=3D20<BR>>> have managed is to have the same start and =
>end for=20
> both=3D20<BR>>> =
>audio<BR>=3D3D<BR>>files<BR>>=20
> > just by cutting at cursor =3D<BR>>>pointy =
>on=3D20<BR>>> =20
> both tracks.<BR>> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =
>
> =3D<BR>>>themhas=3D20<BR>>> different cut=20
> points<BR>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>> >=20
> =3D<BR>>>joint<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> > points =
>, does this=20
> matter?<BR>> > If you ask me why =3D<BR>>>it=20
> is=3D20<BR>>> because these tracks are not actually=20
> =3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but<BR>>=20
> =3D20<BR>>> > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I =
>had=20
> tomove different=3D20<BR>>> =20
> parts<BR>=3D3D<BR>>on=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>each<BR>>=20
> > =3D<BR>>>of the=3D20<BR>>> "stereo" tracks to =
>make them on=20
> time.<BR>> > I want a =
>=3D<BR>>>stereo=3D20<BR>>> =20
> effect because I wanna expand the stereo=3D20<BR>>> =20
> perspective<BR>=3D3D<BR>>of=3D3D20<BR>> >=20
> =3D<BR>>>them<BR>> >=3D20<BR>>> pl;aying =
>hard left=20
> and hard right.<BR>> > Have you tried=20
> =3D<BR>>>T-racks=3D20<BR>>> compressor's stereo =
>widening knob ??=20
> !!<BR>> > Amazing =
>=3D<BR>>>stereo=3D20<BR>>> result=20
> with complete mono compatibility , not like=3D20<BR>>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>waves=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>imager<BR>> >=20
> at=3D20<BR>>> all...<BR>> > =
>Cheers,<BR>> >=20
> =3D<BR>>>DImitrios<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> =
>><BR>>=20
> ><BR>> > "Ennio" <<A=3D20<BR>>> =
>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:e=
>nnio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>>&g=
>t; =20
> wrote:<BR>> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both=20
> =3D<BR>>>sides of=3D20<BR>>> the stereo file=20
> must<BR>=3D3D<BR>>be<BR>> >=20
> =3D<BR>>>at<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> >>the =
>identical spot=20
> - down to the sample (the furthest down you=20
> =3D<BR>>>can=3D20<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>go =
>on<BR>>=20
> > the<BR>> >>zoom=3D20<BR>>> =
>tool)<BR>>=20
> >><BR>> >>"erlilo" =
><<A=3D20<BR>>> =20
> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=20
> wrote in =3D<BR>>>message <A=3D20<BR>>> =
>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f4d36=
>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>=20
> =3D20<BR>>> >>> Is it exactly the same length on =
>each=20
> stereo files or no=3D20<BR>>> =20
> different<BR>=3D3D<BR>>holes<BR>>=20
> >>in<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> >>> any of =
>the stereo=20
> objects?<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> =
>>>><BR>>=20
> >>> Erling<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> =20
> >>><BR>> >>> "Dimitrios"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
> skrev i=3D20<BR>>> melding=3D3D20<BR>> =
>>>>=20
> <A=3D20<BR>>> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f=
>3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>>> >>> ><BR>> =
>
> >>> > Hi,<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> =
>>>> > I=20
> have almost finished my project mixing and when I =3D<BR>>>try=20
> to=3D20<BR>>> put =
>a<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>>=20
> >>> > =3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>> =
>=3D20<BR>>> =20
> >>> > native<BR>> >>> > effect on any =
>
> =3D<BR>>>audio=3D20<BR>>> track on any submix when I =
>try to save=20
> I =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>always<BR>> =
>>=3D20<BR>>> =20
> get<BR>> >>> > assertion<BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>>>>>> >=3D20<BR>>> failed and =
>cannot save=20
> either on same name or other...<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> =20
> >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as=20
> =3D<BR>>>I did=3D20<BR>>> =20
> before<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but<BR>> =
>>>don't<BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>>>>>>=3D20<BR>>> > know why Paris =
>doesn't let=20
> to...<BR>> >>> >=3D20<BR>>> =20
> Regards,<BR>> >>> > Dimitrios<BR>>=20
> =3D20<BR>>> >>><BR>> =
>>>><BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>>>>><BR>> =3D20<BR>>> =20
> >><BR>>=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>>=3D3D20<BR>><BR>><BR>><B=
>R>><!DOCTYPE=3D20<BR>>> =20
> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20<BR>>> =20
> =
>Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>=
><META=3D20<BR>>> =20
> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
>content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20<BR>>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>
> =3D<BR>>>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20<BR>>> =20
> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20<BR>>> =20
> =
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>YLE><BR>></HEA=3D<BR>>>D><BR>><BODY=3D=
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> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR&=
>gt;><DIV><F=3D<BR>>>ONT=3D20<BR>>> =20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rendering is your answer. Don't=20
> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>render=3D20<BR>>> =20
> tracks=3D3D20<BR>>with plugins. In stereo the right=20
> side=3D20<BR>>> =20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>> size=3D3D3D2>won't =
></FONT><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>have=3D20<BR>>>&n=
>bsp;=20
> any=3D3D20<BR>>effect. Double check to see that their timing =
>is=20
> =3D<BR>>>correct=3D20<BR>>> =20
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=
><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>> =
>size=3D3D3D2>Some people=20
> have problems with=3D20<BR>>> =20
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>that.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=
>;<FONT=3D20<BR>>> =20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>>=
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>=3D<BR>>>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RI=
>GHT:=3D20<BR>>> =20
> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>=3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT:=20
> =3D<BR>>>#000000 2px=3D20<BR>>> solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
>
> 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"erlilo"=20
> =3D<BR>>><<A=3D20<BR>>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no<=
>/A>>=3D3D20'>mailto:erlil=3D<BR>>>o@online.no">erlilo@o=
>nline.no</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>>=20
> =3D20<BR>>> wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux&=
>lt;/A>...</DIV>There'>n=3D<BR>>>ews:43900b57$1@linux"&g=
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>Dimitros
My way of doing this is:
Have Paris closed,
make a new folder on the audio harddisk with Explorer or something
similar(I'm using TotalCommander).
Copy ONLY waves or/and PAF files from the old project into the new folder.
Start a new project in Paris.
Import from the new folder all the Waves and PAF files you need into the new
project and set the path to the new project.
In Ediit menu, set the files into the subgroups and channels you wish.
Now you have a new project without any old, saved information at all to
start from scratch.
It's important that all files are rendered to start from zero in the old
project.
If this doesn't help and the earlier rendered stereofiles have absolutelly
correct lenghts, I can't think of other things than plugin problems.
Hope this can help to explain my way of doing something with this kind of
problems.
Erling
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding news:43917c01$1@linux...
>
>
> Sory if I ask much but the way I do the project rebuild does not help.
> How do you do a rebuild ?
> I just go to audio folder export audio objects or wave files under a new
> folder then save the new song and then reopen from new folder.
> I guess you might refer to something different here right ?
> Can you explain your way ?
> Thanks
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Dimitrios,
>>I agree with Erlilo. Try different channels or a different
>>submix if you can. Otherwise rebuilding the mix from
>>scratch in a new project is the next best bet. Copy all
>>mixer settings and presets of effects to make it easier.
>>Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
>>news:43908331$1@linux...
>>
>> Dimitrios, You probably know this, but just to make sure...
>> If you want to use stereo native plugins, you can NOT have any mono =
>>plugins
>> on those tracks. That goes for native and EDS.
>> Do you have any mono eds or native plugs also on the stereo pair?
>> Rod
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>> >
>> >Dear Tom,
>> >It is not the plugin under other song I can open a stereo native =
>>effect.
>> >In my project I cannot open ANY stereo effect.
>> >Even chainer only...
>> >I can save my project no problem if I don't use a stereo native =
>>effect.
>> >ALSO on submix 3 I managed toopen a stereo native effect but not on =
>>submix
>> >1 or 4 , any suggestion ?
>> >Regards,
>> >Dimitrios
>> >
>> >"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Dimitrios,
>> >>Are you saying you can save before this stereo plugin
>> >>is inserted? I'd say you may have a rouge plugin that
>> >>your wrapper or Paris just doesn't like. Try the same thing
>> >>in a different project. ie: Same stereo plugin inserted
>> >>on another stereo pair of tracks. Now can you save?
>> >>If so it may be your project. If not it's probably your plugin.
>> >>
>> >>Good luck,
>> >>Tom
>> >> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =3D
>> >>news:43906b78$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your suggestions.
>> >> I have rendered using the hardware method via adat and achieved =
>>one =3D
>> >>nice
>> >> compact stereo track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved all =
>>audio
>> >=3D
>> >>files
>> >> on new folder and saved under new name I used the clear missing =
>>files
>> >=3D
>> >>just
>> >> before that but again no luck when I put a stereo native effect on
> =
>>=3D
>> >>this stereotrack
>> >> even without hitting play when I try to save assertion fails and
> =
>>=3D
>> >>doesn't
>> >> allow of any save !
>> >> Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve ...
>> >> rEGARDS,
>> >> dIMITRIOS
>> >>
>> >> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Dimitrios,
>> >> >Rendering is your answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In
> =
>>=3D
>> >>stereo
>> >> =3D3D
>> >> >the right side=3D3D20
>> >> >won't have any effect. Double check to see that their timing is
> =
>>=3D
>> >>correct
>> >> =3D3D
>> >> >too.
>> >> >Some people have problems with that.
>> >> >Tom
>> >> > "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =3D
>> >>news:43900b57$1@linux...
>> >> > There you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and =
>>look
>> =3D
>> >>=3D3D
>> >> >after that=3D3D20
>> >> > each stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will
> =
>>do
>> =3D
>> >>the
>> >> =3D3D
>> >> >job=3D3D20
>> >> > when saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if =3D
>> >>something
>> >> =3D3D
>> >> >are=3D3D20
>> >> > going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in =
>>some
>> =3D
>> >>of =3D3D
>> >> >the=3D3D20
>> >> > stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in version
> =
>>2,
>> >=3D
>> >>=3D3D
>> >> >when=3D3D20
>> >> > mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and right =
>>and =3D
>> >>=3D3D
>> >> >muting all=3D3D20
>> >> > other tracks. Then you can import them into the project again =
>>on =3D
>> >>their
>> >> =3D3D
>> >> >old=3D3D20
>> >> > places and give them new names.
>> >> >
>> >> > Erling
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding =3D3D
>> >> >news:439000f1$1@linux...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Hi,
>> >> > > Thanks for your replies.
>> >> > > What I have managed is to have the same start and end for =
>>both =3D
>> >>audio
>> >> =3D3D
>> >> >files
>> >> > > just by cutting at cursor pointy on both tracks.
>> >> > > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of themhas different cut
> =
>>=3D
>> >>points
>> >> =3D3D
>> >> >and=3D3D20
>> >> > > joint
>> >> > > points , does this matter?
>> >> > > If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not actually
> =
>>=3D
>> >>stereo
>> >> =3D3D
>> >> >but
>> >> > > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove =
>>different =3D
>> >>parts
>> >> =3D3D
>> >> >on=3D3D20
>> >> > > each
>> >> > > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on time.
>> >> > > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the stereo =3D
>> >>perspective
>> >> =3D3D
>> >> >of=3D3D20
>> >> > > them
>> >> > > pl;aying hard left and hard right.
>> >> > > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo w
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idening knob ?? =
>>!!
>> >> > > Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility , not
> =
>>like
>> >=3D
>> >>=3D3D
>> >> >waves=3D3D20
>> >> > > imager
>> >> > > at all...
>> >> > > Cheers,
>> >> > > DImitrios
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "Ennio" <ennio@galicorp.net> wrote:
>> >> > >>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the stereo =
>>file
>> =3D
>> >>must
>> >> =3D3D
>> >> >be
>> >> > > at
>> >> > >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down =
>>you =3D
>> >>can =3D3D
>> >> >go on
>> >> > > the
>> >> > >>zoom tool)
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =3D
>> >>news:438f4d36@linux...
>> >> > >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no =
>>=3D
>> >>different
>> >> =3D3D
>> >> >holes
>> >> > >>in
>> >> > >>> any of the stereo objects?
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Erling
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding=3D3D20
>> >> > >>> news:438f3760$1@linux...
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> > Hi,
>> >> > >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I try =
>>to =3D
>> >>put a
>> >> =3D3D
>> >> >
>> >> > >>> > stereo
>> >> > >>> > native
>> >> > >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix when I try to =
>>save I
>> >=3D
>> >>=3D3D
>> >> >always
>> >> > > get
>> >> > >>> > assertion
>> >> > >>> > failed and cannot save either on same name or other...
>> >> > >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as I did
> =
>>=3D
>> >>before
>> >> =3D3D
>> >> >but
>> >> > >>don't
>> >> > >>> > know why Paris doesn't let to...
>> >> > >>> > Regards,
>> >> > >>> > Dimitrios
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >=3D3D20
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> >> ><HTML><HEAD>
>> >> ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
>>=3D3D
>> >> >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
>> >> ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
>> >> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>> >> ></HEAD>
>> >> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
>> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
>> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rendering is your =
>>answer. Don't
>> >=3D
>> >>=3D3D
>> >> >render tracks=3D3D20
>> >> >with plugins. In stereo the right side </FONT></DIV>
>> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT =3D
>> >>face=3D3D3DArial =3D3D
>> >> >size=3D3D3D2>have any=3D3D20
>> >> >effect. Double check to see that their timing is correct =3D3D
>> >> >too.</FONT></DIV>
>> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Some people have =
>>problems with
>> =3D
>> >>=3D3D
>> >> >that.</FONT></DIV>
>> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>> >> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
>> >> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:
> =
>>5px;
>> =3D
>> >>=3D3D
>> >> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> >> > <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D3D
>> >> >href=3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20
>> >> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20
>> >> > =3D
>> =
>>>>href=3D3D3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=
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>> >> =3D3D
>> >> >you have=3D3D20
>> >> > the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look after that =
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>> >><BR>each
>> >> =3D3D
>> >> >
>> >> > stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will do =
>>the =3D
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>> >> ><BR>when=3D3D20
>> >> > saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if =
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>> >>are =3D3D
>> >> ><BR>going=3D3D20
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> =
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>> >>the=3D3D20
>> >> > <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in =
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>> >=3D
>> >>2,
>> >> =3D3D
>> >> >when=3D3D20
>> >> > <BR>mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and =
>>right =3D
>> >>and =3D3D
>> >> >muting=3D3D20
>> >> > all <BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the project
> =
>>=3D
>> >>again
>> >> =3D3D
>> >> >on their=3D3D20
>> >> > old <BR>places and give them new =3D3D
>> >> >names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>"Dimitrios"=3D3D20
>> >> > <<A =
>>href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =3D
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>>to =3D
>> >>=3D3D
>> >> >have=3D3D20
>> >> > the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by =
>>cutting at
>> >=3D
>> >>=3D3D
>> >> >cursor=3D3D20
>> >> > pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each
> =
>>of
>> >=3D
>> >>=3D3D
>> >> >themhas=3D3D20
>> >> > different cut points and <BR>> joint<BR>> points , does =
>>this=3D3D20
>> >> > matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are =
>>not
>> =3D
>> >>=3D3D
>> >> >actually=3D3D20
>> >> > stereo but<BR>> two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had =
>>=3D3D
>> >> >tomove=3D3D20
>> >> > different parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to =
>>=3D3D
>> >> >make them=3D3D20
>> >> > on time.<BR>> I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the
> =
>>=3D3D
>> >> >stereo=3D3D20
>> >> > perspective of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and =
>>hard=3D3D20
>> >> > right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening
> =
>>=3D3D
>> >> >knob ??=3D3D20
>> >> > !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility
> =
>>, =3D
>> >>=3D3D
>> >> >not like=3D3D20
>> >> > waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D20
>> >> > DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio" <<A=3D3D20
>> >> > =
>>href=3D3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20
>> >> > wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the
> =
>>=3D3D
>> >> >stereo=3D3D20
>> >> > file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the =
>>=3D3D
>> >> >sample=3D3D20
>> >> > (the furthest down you can go on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D20
>> >> > tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" <<A=3D3D20
>> >> > href=3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> =
>>wrote in
>> =3D
>> >>=3D3D
>> >> >message <A=3D3D20
>> >> > =3D3D
>> >> =
>>>href=3D3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>>>> =
>>=3D3D
>> >> >Is it=3D3D20
>> >> > exactly the same length on each stereo files or no =
>>different=3D3D20
>> >> > holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the stereo=3D3D20
>> >> > objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D20
>> >> > Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20
>> >> > href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>
> =
>>skrev
>> >=3D
>> >>i =3D3D
>> >> >melding=3D3D20
>> >> > <BR>>>> <A=3D3D20
>> >> > =3D3D
>> >> =3D
>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&=
>>g=3D3D=3D
>> >>
>> >> >t;=3D3D20
>> >> > ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D3D
>> >> >finished my=3D3D20
>> >> > project mixing and when I try to put a <BR>>>> >=3D3D20
>> >> > stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > effect on any =3D3D
>> >> >audio=3D3D20
>> >> > track on any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =3D3D
>> >> >get<BR>>>>=3D3D20
>> >> > > assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on =3D3D
>> >> >same name=3D3D20
>> >> > or other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use =3D3D
>> >> >stereo=3D3D20
>> >> > effects as I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know =3D3D
>> >> >why=3D3D20
>> >> > Paris doesn't let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D3D
>> >> >>=3D3D20
>> >> > =3D3D
>> >> >Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>=3D3D
>> >> >=3D3D20
>> >> > <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> >><HTML><HEAD>
>> >><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>> >>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>> >><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>> >><STYLE></STYLE>
>> >></HEAD>
>> >><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
>> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Are you saying you can save =
>>before this
>> >=3D
>> >>stereo=3D20
>> >>plugin</FONT></DIV>
>> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>is inserted? I'd say you may =
>>have =3D
>> >>a rouge=3D20
>> >>plugin that</FONT></DIV>
>> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>your wrapper or Paris just =
>>doesn't =3D
>> >>like. Try=3D20
>> >>the same thing</FONT></DIV>
>> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>in a different project. ie: =
>>Same =3D
>> >>stereo=3D20
>> >>plugin inserted</FONT></DIV>
>> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>on another stereo pair of =
>>tracks. =3D
>> >>Now can you=3D20
>> >>save?</FONT></DIV>
>> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>If so it may be your project. =
>>If =3D
>> >>not it's=3D20
>> >>probably your plugin.</FONT></DIV>
>> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
>> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>> >>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
> =
>>=3D
>> >>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> >> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
>> >> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote
> =
>>in =3D
>> >>message=3D20
>> >> <A =3D
>> =
>>>>href=3D3D"news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>=
>>Than=3D
>> >>ks=3D20
>> >> for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware method
> =
>>via
>> >=3D
>> >>adat=3D20
>> >> and achieved one nice<BR>compact stereo track with my acoustic =3D
>> >>guitars, I even=3D20
>> >> saved all audio files<BR>on new folder and saved under new name I
> =
>>used
>> >=3D
>> >>the=3D20
>> >> clear missing files just<BR>before that but again no luck when I =
>>=3D
>> >>put a=3D20
>> >> stereo native effect on this stereotrack<BR>even without hitting =
>>=3D
>> >>play =3D20
>> >> when I try to save assertion fails and doesn't<BR>allow of any =
>>save =3D
>> >>!<BR>Note=3D20
>> >> that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve=3D20
>> >> ...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
>> >> =
>>href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
>> >> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>Rendering is your=3D20
>> >> answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In=3D20
>> >> stereo<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the right side=3D3D20<BR>>won't have any =3D
>> >>effect. =3D20
>> >> Double check to see that their timing is =3D
>> >>correct<BR>=3D3D<BR>>too.<BR>>Some=3D20
>> >> people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>> "erlilo" =3D
>> >><<A=3D20
>> >> href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in
> =
>>=3D
>> >>message <A=3D20
>> >> =3D
>> >>href=3D3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>=3D
>> >> There=3D20
>> >> you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =3D
>> >>=3D3D<BR>>after=3D20
>> >> that=3D3D20<BR>> each stereopair is starting and ending at the =3D
>> >>same=3D20
>> >> places will do the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>job=3D3D20<BR>> when saving =3D
>> >>under a new=3D20
>> >> name, just to be sure to go back if =3D
>> >>something<BR>=3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> >> going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some
> =
>>of=3D20
>> >> =3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D20<BR>> stereofiles, you can rendering the =3D
>> >>old, hard=3D20
>> >> way, as in version 2, =3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D20<BR>> mixing down =3D
>> >>each=3D20
>> >> stereopair with panning hard left and right and =
>>=3D3D<BR>>muting=3D20
>> >> all=3D3D20<BR>> other tracks. Then you can import them into the =
>>=3D
>> >>project=3D20
>> >> again on their<BR>=3D3D<BR>>old=3D3D20<BR>> places and give =3D
>> >>them new=3D20
>> >> names.<BR>><BR>> Erling<BR>><BR>><BR>> =3D
>> >>"Dimitrios"=3D20
>> >> <<A href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
>>=3D
>> >>skrev i=3D20
>> >> melding =3D3D<BR>>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>> =3D
>> >>><BR>> =3D20
>> >> > Hi,<BR>> > Thanks for your replies.<BR>> =3D
>> >>> What I=3D20
>> >> have managed is to have the same start and end for both=3D20
>> >> audio<BR>=3D3D<BR>>files<BR>> > just by cutting at cursor =3D
>> >>pointy on=3D20
>> >> both tracks.<BR>> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =3D
>> >>themhas=3D20
>> >> different cut points<BR>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
>> >>joint<BR>> =3D20
>> >> > points , does this matter?<BR>> > If you ask me why =3D
>> >>it is=3D20
>> >> because these tracks are not actually =3D
>> >>stereo<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but<BR>> =3D20
>> >> > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove =
>>different=3D20
>> >> parts<BR>=3D3D<BR>>on=3D3D20<BR>> > each<BR>> > =3D
>> >>of the=3D20
>> >> "stereo" tracks to make them on time.<BR>> > I want a =3D
>> >>stereo=3D20
>> >> effect because I wanna expand the stereo=3D20
>> >> perspective<BR>=3D3D<BR>>of=3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
>> >>them<BR>> >=3D20
>> >> pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>> > Have you tried =3D
>> >>T-racks=3D20
>> >> compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!<BR>> > Amazing =3D
>> >>stereo=3D20
>> >> result with complete mono compatibility , not like=3D20
>> >> =3D3D<BR>>waves=3D3D20<BR>> > imager<BR>> > at=3D20
>> >> all...<BR>> > Cheers,<BR>> > =3D
>> >>DImitrios<BR>> =3D20
>> >> ><BR>> ><BR>> > "Ennio" <<A=3D20
>> >> href=3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20
>> >> wrote:<BR>> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both =3D
>> >>sides of=3D20
>> >> the stereo file must<BR>=3D3D<BR>>be<BR>> > =3D
>> >>at<BR>> =3D20
>> >> >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down you =
>>=3D
>> >>can=3D20
>> >> =3D3D<BR>>go on<BR>> > the<BR>> >>zoom=3D20
>> >> tool)<BR>> >><BR>> >>"erlilo" <<A=3D20
>> >> href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in
> =
>>=3D
>> >>message <A=3D20
>> >> href=3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>=3D20
>> >> >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no=3D20
>> >> different<BR>=3D3D<BR>>holes<BR>> >>in<BR>> =3D20
>> >> >>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>> =3D20
>> >> >>><BR>> >>> Erling<BR>> =3D20
>> >> >>><BR>> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
>> >> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev
> =
>>i=3D20
>> >> melding=3D3D20<BR>> >>> <A=3D20
>> >> =3D
>> >>href=3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>=3D
>> >>=3D20
>> >> >>> ><BR>> >>> > Hi,<BR>> =3D20
>> >> >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I =3D
>> >>try to=3D20
>> >> put a<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> >>> > =3D
>> >>stereo<BR>> =3D20
>> >> >>> > native<BR>> >>> > effect on any =3D
>> >>audio=3D20
>> >> track on any submix when I try to save I =3D
>> >>=3D3D<BR>>always<BR>> >=3D20
>> >> get<BR>> >>> > assertion<BR>> =3D
>> >>>>> >=3D20
>> >> failed and cannot save either on same name or other...<BR>> =3D20
>> >> >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as =3D
>> >>I did=3D20
>> >> before<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but<BR>> >>don't<BR>> =3D
>> >>>>>=3D20
>> >> > know why Paris doesn't let to...<BR>> >>> >=3D20
>> >> Regards,<BR>> >>> > Dimitrios<BR>> =3D20
>> >> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> =3D
>> >>>><BR>> =3D20
>> >> >><BR>> =3D
>> >>>=3D3D20<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=3D20
>> >> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
>> >> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
>> >> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
>> >> =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
>> >>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
>> >> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
>> >> =3D
>> >>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
>> >>D><BR>><BODY=3D20
>> >> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
>> >> =3D
>> >>size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=3D
>> >>ONT=3D20
>> >> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rendering is your answer. Don't =3D
>> >>=3D3D<BR>>render=3D20
>> >> tracks=3D3D20<BR>>with plugins. In stereo the right side=3D20
>> >> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
>> >> size=3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
>> >>=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>have=3D20
>> >> any=3D3D20<BR>>effect. Double check to see that their timing is =
>>=3D
>> >>correct=3D20
>> >> =3D3D<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>> >>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
>> >> size=3D3D3D2>Some people have problems with=3D20
>> >> =3D3D<BR>>that.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
>> >> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
>> >> =3D
>> >>size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR >=3D
>> >>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D20
>> >> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
>>=3D
>> >>#000000 2px=3D20
>> >> solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"erlilo" =3D
>> >><<A=3D20
>> >> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> >> =3D
>> =
>>>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20'>mailto=
>>:erlil=3D
>> >>o@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>> =3D20
>> >> wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> >> =3D
>> =
>>>>href=3D3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Ther=
>>e'>n=3D
>> >>ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=3D
>> >>ere</A><BR>=3D3D<BR>>you=3D20
>> >> have=3D3D20<BR>> the problem. I think rendering the tracks and =3D
>> >>look after=3D20
>> >> that <BR>each<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> stereopair is =3D
>> >>starting and=3D20
>> >> ending at the same places will do the job=3D20
>> >> =3D3D<BR>><BR>when=3D3D20<BR>> saving under a new name, =3D
>> >>just to be=3D20
>> >> sure to go back if something are =3D
>> >>=3D3D<BR>><BR>going=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> >> wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some =
>>of=3D20
>> >> the=3D3D20<BR>> <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the =3D
>> >>old, hard=3D20
>> >> way, as in version 2,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>> >><BR>mixing down=3D20
>> >> each stereopair with panning hard left and right and=3D20
>> >> =3D3D<BR>>muting=3D3D20<BR>> all <BR>other tracks. Then =3D
>> >>you can=3D20
>> >> import them into the project again<BR>=3D3D<BR>>on =3D
>> >>their=3D3D20<BR>> old=3D20
>> >> <BR>places and give them new=3D20
>> >> =3D
>> >>=3D3D<BR>>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>=3D
>> >>"Dimitrios"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> >> <<A href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> >> =3D
>> =
>>>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musu=
>>rgio=3D
>> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D20
>> >> =3D3D<BR>>skrev i=3D3D20<BR>> melding <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>> >>
>> >> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> >> =3D
>> =
>>>>href=3D3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
>>=3D
>> >>g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=3D
>> >>><BR>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> >> Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have =3D
>> >>managed=3D20
>> >> is to =3D3D<BR>>have=3D3D20<BR>> the same start and end for =3D
>> >>both audio=3D20
>> >> files<BR>> just by cutting at =3D
>> >>=3D3D<BR>>cursor=3D3D20<BR>> pointy=3D20
>> >> on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each of=3D20
>> >> =3D3D<BR>>themhas=3D3D20<BR>> different cut points and =3D
>> >><BR>>=3D20
>> >> joint<BR>> points , does this=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>> >>matter?<BR>>=3D20
>> >> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not=3D20
>> >> =3D3D<BR>>actually=3D3D20<BR>> stereo but<BR>> two =3D
>> >>takes of=3D20
>> >> acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D3D<BR>>tomove=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>> >>different=3D20
>> >> parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to=3D20
>> >> =3D3D<BR>>make them=3D3D20<BR>> on time.<BR>> I want =3D
>> >>a stereo=3D20
>> >> effect because I wanna expand the =3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>> >>perspective=3D20
>> >> of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and=3D20
>> >> hard=3D3D20<BR>> right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks =3D
>> >>compressor's=3D20
>> >> stereo widening =3D3D<BR>>knob ??=3D3D20<BR>> !!<BR>> =3D
>> >>Amazing=3D20
>> >> stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =
>>=3D3D<BR>>not=3D20
>> >> like=3D3D20<BR>> waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at=3D20
>> >> all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> >> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio"=3D20
>> >> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> >> =3D
>> =
>>>>href=3D3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20'>ma=
>>ilto:e=3D
>> >>nnio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>>&n=3D
>> >>bsp;=3D20
>> >> wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides =3D
>> >>of the=3D20
>> >> =3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>> file must be<BR>>=3D20
>> >> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the=3D20
>> >> =3D3D<BR>>sample=3D3D20<BR>> (the furthest down you can go=3D20
>> >> on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> >> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" =3D
>> >><<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> >> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> >> =3D
>> =
>>>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@o=
>>nlin=3D
>> >>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=3D20
>> >> wrote in =3D3D<BR>>message <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>> >>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> >> =3D
>> =
>>>>href=3D3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f=
>>4d36=3D
>> >>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=3D20
>> >> =3D3D<BR>>Is it=3D3D20<BR>> exactly the same length on each =3D
>> >>stereo files=3D20
>> >> or no different=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> >> holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the=3D20
>> >> stereo=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> >> =3D
>> >>objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> >> Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios"=3D20
>> >> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> >> =3D
>> =
>>>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musu=
>>rgio=3D
>> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D20
>> >> skrev i =3D3D<BR>>melding=3D3D20<BR>> <BR>>>>=3D20
>> >> <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> >> =3D
>> =
>>>>href=3D3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g'>=
>>=3D
>> >>news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=3D
>> >>;>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> >> ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have =3D
>> >>almost=3D20
>> >> =3D3D<BR>>finished my=3D3D20<BR>> project mixing and when I =3D
>> >>try to put a=3D20
>> >> <BR>>>> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>> >>stereo<BR>>>> >=3D20
>> >> native<BR>>>> > effect on any=3D20
>> >> =3D3D<BR>>audio=3D3D20<BR>> track on any submix when I try to =3D
>> >>save I=3D20
>> >> always<BR>> =3D
>> >>=3D3D<BR>>get<BR>>>>=3D3D20<BR>> >=3D20
>> >> assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on=3D20
>> >> =3D3D<BR>>same name=3D3D20<BR>> or =3D
>> >>other...<BR>>>> > The=3D20
>> >> problem is that I want to use =3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>> >>effects as I=3D20
>> >> did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know=3D20
>> >> =3D3D<BR>>why=3D3D20<BR>> Paris doesn't let =3D
>> >>to...<BR>>>>=3D20
>> >> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>> >>
>> >> =3D
>> >>=3D3D<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>=3D
>> >>;>><BR>>><BR>>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> >> =3D
>> >><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR>>=3D
>> >><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>><HTML><HEAD>
>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
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>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with Erlilo. Try =
>>different channels=20
>>or a different</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>submix if you can. Otherwise =
>>rebuilding the=20
>>mix from</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scratch in a new project is the next =
>>best=20
>>bet. Copy all</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mixer settings and presets of effects =
>>to make it=20
>>easier.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
>>t;=20
>> wrote in message <A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"news:43908331$1@linux">news:43908331$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Dimi=
>>trios,=20
>> You probably know this, but just to make sure...<BR>If you want to use
> =
>>stereo=20
>> native plugins, you can NOT have any mono plugins<BR>on those tracks.
> =
>>That=20
>> goes for native and EDS.<BR>Do you have any mono eds or native plugs =
>>also on=20
>> the stereo pair?<BR>Rod<BR>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>><BR>>Dear Tom,<BR>>It is not the plugin under =
>>other song I=20
>> can open a stereo native effect.<BR>>In my project I cannot open =
>>ANY stereo=20
>> effect.<BR>>Even chainer only...<BR>>I can save my project no =
>>problem if=20
>> I don't use a stereo native effect.<BR>>ALSO on submix 3 I managed =
>>toopen a=20
>> stereo native effect but not on submix<BR>>1 or 4 , any suggestion=20
>> ?<BR>>Regards,<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Dimitrios,<BR>>>Are =
>>you saying=20
>> you can save before this stereo plugin<BR>>>is inserted? =
>>I'd say=20
>> you may have a rouge plugin that<BR>>>your wrapper or Paris just =
>>doesn't=20
>> like. Try the same thing<BR>>>in a different =
>>project. ie:=20
>> Same stereo plugin inserted<BR>>>on another stereo pair of =
>>tracks. =20
>> Now can you save?<BR>>>If so it may be your project. If =
>>not it's=20
>> probably your plugin.<BR>>><BR>>>Good=20
>> luck,<BR>>>Tom<BR>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
>>message=20
>> =3D<BR>>>news:43906b78$1@linux...<BR>>><BR>>> =
>>Thanks for=20
>> your suggestions.<BR>>> I have rendered using the hardware =
>>method=20
>> via adat and achieved one =3D<BR>>>nice<BR>>> =
>>compact stereo=20
>> track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved all=20
>> audio<BR>>=3D<BR>>>files<BR>>> on new folder and =
>>saved=20
>> under new name I used the clear missing =20
>> files<BR>>=3D<BR>>>just<BR>>> before that but =
>>again no luck=20
>> when I put a stereo native effect on =3D<BR>>>this=20
>> stereotrack<BR>>> even without hitting play when I =
>>try to=20
>> save assertion fails and =3D<BR>>>doesn't<BR>>> =
>>allow of any=20
>> save !<BR>>> Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when =
>>I hit=20
>> SAve ...<BR>>> rEGARDS,<BR>>> =20
>> dIMITRIOS<BR>>><BR>>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> =
>>
>> >Dimitrios,<BR>>> >Rendering is your answer. =
>>Don't=20
>> render tracks with plugins. In =
>>=3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>>> =20
>> =3D3D<BR>>> >the right side=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>>>won't have=20
>> any effect. Double check to see that their timing is=20
>> =3D<BR>>>correct<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >too.<BR>>> >Some people have problems with=20
>> that.<BR>>> >Tom<BR>>> > "erlilo" =
>><<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
>>message=20
>> =3D<BR>>>news:43900b57$1@linux...<BR>>> > =
>>There you=20
>> have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and=20
>> look<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >after=20
>> that=3D3D20<BR>>> > each stereopair is starting =
>>and ending=20
>> at the same places will do<BR>=3D<BR>>>the<BR>>> =20
>> =3D3D<BR>>> >job=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>>when saving=20
>> under a new name, just to be sure to go back if=20
>> =3D<BR>>>something<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >are=3D3D20<BR>>> > going wrong again. If the =
>>time=20
>> alignments are going wrong in some<BR>=3D<BR>>>of =
>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >the=3D3D20<BR>>> > stereofiles, you can =
>>rendering the=20
>> old, hard way, as in version =
>>2,<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >when=3D3D20<BR>>> > mixing down each =
>>stereopair with=20
>> panning hard left and right and =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>>>muting=20
>> all=3D3D20<BR>>> > other tracks. Then you can =
>>import them=20
>> into the project again on =3D<BR>>>their<BR>>> =20
>> =3D3D<BR>>> >old=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>>places and=20
>> give them new names.<BR>>> ><BR>>> =
>>> =20
>> Erling<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> =
>>
>> > "Dimitrios" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i =
>>melding=20
>> =3D3D<BR>>> >news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>>> =
>>
>> > ><BR>>> > > =
>>Hi,<BR>>> =20
>> > > Thanks for your replies.<BR>>> > =
>>>=20
>> What I have managed is to have the same start and end for both=20
>> =3D<BR>>>audio<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >files<BR>>> > > just by cutting at cursor =
>>pointy=20
>> on both tracks.<BR>>> > > Buit insight the =
>>stereo=20
>> tracks each of themhas different cut =
>>=3D<BR>>>points<BR>>> =20
>> =3D3D<BR>>> >and=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>>>=20
>> joint<BR>>> > > points , does this=20
>> matter?<BR>>> > > If you ask me why it is =
>>because=20
>> these tracks are not actually =3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>>> =20
>> =3D3D<BR>>> >but<BR>>> > > two =
>>takes of=20
>> acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different=20
>> =3D<BR>>>parts<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >on=3D3D20<BR>>> > > each<BR>>> =
>>
>> > > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on =
>>time.<BR>>> =20
>> > > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the =
>>stereo=20
>> =3D<BR>>>perspective<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >of=3D3D20<BR>>> > > them<BR>>> =
>>
>> > > pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>>> =20
>> > > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening =
>>knob ??=20
>> !!<BR>>> > > Amazing stereo result with =
>>complete mono=20
>> compatibility , not like<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>>
>> >waves=3D3D20<BR>>> > > =
>>imager<BR>>> =20
>> > > at all...<BR>>> > >=20
>> Cheers,<BR>>> > > DImitrios<BR>>> =20
>> > ><BR>>> > ><BR>>> =
>>> =20
>> > "Ennio" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>>> > >>The in-points (and =
>>out-points) on=20
>> both sides of the stereo file<BR>=3D<BR>>>must<BR>>> =
>>
>> =3D3D<BR>>> >be<BR>>> > >=20
>> at<BR>>> > >>the identical spot - down to =
>>the=20
>> sample (the furthest down you =3D<BR>>>can =
>>=3D3D<BR>>> >go=20
>> on<BR>>> > > the<BR>>> > =20
>> >>zoom tool)<BR>>> > =
>>>><BR>>> =20
>> > >>"erlilo" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
>>message=20
>> =3D<BR>>>news:438f4d36@linux...<BR>>> > =
>>>>>=20
>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no=20
>> =3D<BR>>>different<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >holes<BR>>> > >>in<BR>>> =
>>> =20
>> >>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>>> > =20
>> >>><BR>>> > >>>=20
>> Erling<BR>>> > >>><BR>>> =
>>> =20
>> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i=20
>> melding=3D3D20<BR>>> > >>> <A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&n=
>>bsp;=20
>> > >>> ><BR>>> > >>> =
>>>=20
>> Hi,<BR>>> > >>> > I have almost =
>>finished my=20
>> project mixing and when I try to =3D<BR>>>put =
>>a<BR>>> =20
>> =3D3D<BR>>> ><BR>>> > >>> =
>>>=20
>> stereo<BR>>> > >>> > =
>>native<BR>>> =20
>> > >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix =
>>when I=20
>> try to save I<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >always<BR>>> > > get<BR>>> =
>>> =20
>> >>> > assertion<BR>>> > >>> =
>>>=20
>> failed and cannot save either on same name or =
>>other...<BR>>> =20
>> > >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo =
>>effects=20
>> as I did =3D<BR>>>before<BR>>> =
>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >but<BR>>> > >>don't<BR>>> =20
>> > >>> > know why Paris doesn't let=20
>> to...<BR>>> > >>> >=20
>> Regards,<BR>>> > >>> >=20
>> Dimitrios<BR>>> > >>><BR>>> =20
>> > >>><BR>>> > =20
>> >><BR>>> > >><BR>>> =
>>> =20
>> >=3D3D20<BR>>> ><BR>>> =
>>><BR>>> =20
>> ><BR>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
>>4.0=20
>> Transitional//EN"><BR>>> =20
>> ><HTML><HEAD><BR>>> ><META=20
>> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>>> ><META=20
>> content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
>>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>>> =20
>> ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>>> =20
>> ></HEAD><BR>>> ><BODY=20
>> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>> ><DIV><FONT=20
>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
>> size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =20
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rendering is =
>>your answer.=20
>> Don't<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >render=20
>> tracks=3D3D20<BR>>> >with plugins. In stereo the right =
>>side=20
>> </FONT></DIV><BR>>> ><DIV><FONT=20
>> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT=20
>> =3D<BR>>>face=3D3D3DArial =3D3D<BR>>> =
>>>size=3D3D3D2>have=20
>> any=3D3D20<BR>>> >effect. Double check to see that =
>>their timing=20
>> is correct =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >too.</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =
>>><DIV><FONT=20
>> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Some people have problems=20
>> with<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >that.</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =
>>><DIV><FONT=20
>> face=3D3D3DArial =
>>size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =20
>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=20
>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
>>5px;<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
>>0px"><BR>>> =20
>> > <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >href=3D3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20'>mailto:erl=
>>ilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>>>&n=
>>bsp;=20
>> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
>> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>There'>n=
>>ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=
>>ere</A><BR>>> =20
>> =3D3D<BR>>> >you have=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>>> the=20
>> problem. I think rendering the tracks and look after that=20
>> =3D<BR>>><BR>each<BR>>> =
>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> ><BR>>> > stereopair is starting and ending at =
>>the=20
>> same places will do the =3D<BR>>>job =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> ><BR>when=3D3D20<BR>>> > saving under a =
>>new name,=20
>> just to be sure to go back if something =3D<BR>>>are =
>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> ><BR>going=3D3D20<BR>>> > wrong again. =
>>If the time=20
>> alignments are going wrong in some of =
>>=3D<BR>>>the=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
>> > <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, =
>>as in=20
>> version<BR>>=3D<BR>>>2,<BR>>> =
>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >when=3D3D20<BR>>> > <BR>mixing down =
>>each=20
>> stereopair with panning hard left and right =3D<BR>>>and=20
>> =3D3D<BR>>> >muting=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>>all=20
>> <BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the project=20
>> =3D<BR>>>again<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> >on=20
>> their=3D3D20<BR>>> > old <BR>places and =
>>give them new=20
>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> =
>>>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>"Dimitr=
>>ios"=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
>> > <<A href=3D3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
>> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >skrev =
>>i=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
>> > melding <A=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
>> =3D3D<BR>>> =3D<BR>>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
>>g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=
>>><BR>&g</A>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >t;=3D3D20<BR>>> > Hi,<BR>> Thanks =
>>for your=20
>> replies.<BR>> What I have managed is to=20
>> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>>>have=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
>> the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by =
>>cutting=20
>> at<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>>>cursor=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
>> > pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the =
>>stereo tracks=20
>> each of<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >themhas=3D3D20<BR>>> > different cut points =
>>and=20
>> <BR>> joint<BR>> points , does =
>>this=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
>> > matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these =
>>tracks=20
>> are not<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >actually=3D3D20<BR>>> > stereo =
>>but<BR>> two=20
>> takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >tomove=3D3D20<BR>>> > different parts on =
>><BR>>=20
>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to =3D3D<BR>>> =
>>>make=20
>> them=3D3D20<BR>>> > on time.<BR>> I want =
>>a stereo=20
>> effect because I wanna expand the =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >stereo=3D3D20<BR>>> > perspective of =
>><BR>>=20
>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and =
>>hard=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
>> > right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's =
>>stereo=20
>> widening =3D3D<BR>>> >knob ??=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>>> =20
>> !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono =
>>compatibility ,=20
>> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >not =
>>like=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
>> > waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at =
>>all...<BR>>=20
>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
>> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio"=20
>> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20'>mailto=
>>:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>&g=
>>t;> =20
>> > wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on =
>>both=20
>> sides of the =3D3D<BR>>> =
>>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
>> > file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the =
>>identical spot -=20
>> down to the =3D3D<BR>>> =
>>>sample=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
>> (the furthest down you can go on<BR>>=20
>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
>> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo"=20
>> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
>>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=20
>> wrote in<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >message=20
>> <A=3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D<BR>>> =
>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f4d36=
>>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=20
>> =3D3D<BR>>> >Is it=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>>exactly the=20
>> same length on each stereo files or no =
>>different=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
>> > holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the=20
>> stereo=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
>> =
>>objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D20<BR>>>&n=
>>bsp;=20
>> > Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> =
>>"Dimitrios"=20
>> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
>> skrev<BR>>=3D<BR>>>i =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >melding=3D3D20<BR>>> > <BR>>>> =
>>
>> <A=3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> =3D<BR>>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=3D=
>>3D'>news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>=
>>;>>&g=3D3D</A>=3D<BR>>><BR>>> =20
>> >t;=3D3D20<BR>>> > ><BR>>>> =
>>>=20
>> Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >finished my=3D3D20<BR>>> > project mixing and =
>>when I=20
>> try to put a <BR>>>> >=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>>> =20
>> stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > =
>>effect on=20
>> any =3D3D<BR>>> >audio=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>>> track on=20
>> any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =
>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >get<BR>>>>=3D3D20<BR>>> > > =
>>
>> assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on=20
>> =3D3D<BR>>> >same name=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>>> or=20
>> other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use=20
>> =3D3D<BR>>> >stereo=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>>effects as=20
>> I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > =
>>know=20
>> =3D3D<BR>>> >why=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>>Paris doesn't=20
>> let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>>=20
>> =3D3D<BR>>> >>=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> =
>>>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>&g=
>>t;<BR>>><BR>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
>> =
>><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR>>=
>>> =20
>> ><BR>>> =
>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><!DOCTYPE=20
>> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
>> =
>>Transitional//EN"><BR>>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>><=
>>META=20
>> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
>> =3D<BR>>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>>><META =
>>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
>> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
>> =
>>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>>>=
>></HEAD><BR>>><BODY=20
>> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>> =
>>size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV>&=
>>lt;FONT=20
>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Are you saying you can save before=20
>> =
>>this<BR>>=3D<BR>>>stereo=3D20<BR>>>plugin</FONT><=
>>/DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>is inserted? I'd say you may have =
>>=3D<BR>>>a=20
>> rouge=3D20<BR>>>plugin=20
>> that</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>>face=3D3DArial=20
>> size=3D3D2>your wrapper or Paris just doesn't =3D<BR>>>like.=20
>> Try=3D20<BR>>>the same=20
>> thing</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>>face=3D3DArial=20
>> size=3D3D2>in a different project. ie: Same=20
>> =3D<BR>>>stereo=3D20<BR>>>plugin=20
>> inserted</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>>face=3D3DArial=20
>> size=3D3D2>on another stereo pair of tracks. =3D<BR>>>Now can =
>>
>> =
>>you=3D20<BR>>>save?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV>=
>><FONT=20
>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>If so it may be your project. If =
>>=3D<BR>>>not=20
>> it's=3D20<BR>>>probably your=20
>> plugin.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>>face=3D3DArial=20
>> size=3D3D2></FONT> =
>></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=20
>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Good=20
>> luck,</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
>>face=3D3DArial=20
>> =
>>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20=
>><BR>>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
>> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>>BORDER-LEFT: =
>>#000000=20
>> 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>>> =
>><DIV>"Dimitrios"=20
>> <<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
>> wrote in =3D<BR>>>message=3D20<BR>>> <A=20
>> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>>'>news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>>;<BR>Than</A>=3D<BR>>>ks=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware =
>>method=20
>> via<BR>>=3D<BR>>>adat=3D20<BR>>> and achieved one =
>>
>> nice<BR>compact stereo track with my acoustic =
>>=3D<BR>>>guitars, I=20
>> even=3D20<BR>>> saved all audio files<BR>on new =
>>folder and=20
>> saved under new name I =
>>used<BR>>=3D<BR>>>the=3D20<BR>>> clear=20
>> missing files just<BR>before that but again no luck when I=20
>> =3D<BR>>>put a=3D20<BR>>> stereo native effect on =
>>this=20
>> stereotrack<BR>even without hitting =3D<BR>>>play=20
>> =3D20<BR>>> when I try to save assertion fails and=20
>> doesn't<BR>allow of any save=20
>> =3D<BR>>>!<BR>Note=3D20<BR>>> that assertion =
>>failure=20
>> appears ONLY when I hit SAve=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> ...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom =
>>Bruhl"=20
>> <<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
>>:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
>>t;> =20
>> =
>>wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>R=
>>endering=20
>> is your=3D20<BR>>> answer. Don't render tracks with =
>>plugins.=20
>> In=3D20<BR>>> stereo<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the right =
>>
>> side=3D3D20<BR>>won't have any =3D<BR>>>effect.=20
>> =3D20<BR>>> Double check to see that their timing is=20
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>>correct<BR>=3D3D<BR>>too.<BR>>Some=
>>=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>> =
>>"erlilo"=20
>> =3D<BR>>><<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
>>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=20
>> wrote in =3D<BR>>>message <A=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR'>news:4390=
>>0b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>=20
>> =3D<BR>>> There=3D20<BR>>> you have the problem. I =
>>think=20
>> rendering the tracks and look=20
>> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>after=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> that=3D3D20<BR>> each stereopair is starting and ending at =
>>the=20
>> =3D<BR>>>same=3D20<BR>>> places will do=20
>> the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>job=3D3D20<BR>> when saving=20
>> =3D<BR>>>under a new=3D20<BR>>> name, just to be =
>>sure to go back=20
>> if =
>>=3D<BR>>>something<BR>=3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D20<BR>=
>>>=20
>> =3D20<BR>>> going wrong again. If the time alignments are =
>>going=20
>> wrong in some of=3D20<BR>>> =
>>=3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D20<BR>>=20
>> stereofiles, you can rendering the =3D<BR>>>old, =
>>hard=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> way, as in version 2, =3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D20<BR>> =
>>mixing down=20
>> =3D<BR>>>each=3D20<BR>>> stereopair with panning =
>>hard left and=20
>> right and =3D3D<BR>>muting=3D20<BR>>> =
>>all=3D3D20<BR>>=20
>> other tracks. Then you can import them into the=20
>> =3D<BR>>>project=3D20<BR>>> again on=20
>> their<BR>=3D3D<BR>>old=3D3D20<BR>> places and =
>>give=20
>> =3D<BR>>>them new=3D20<BR>>> =
>>names.<BR>><BR>>=20
>> Erling<BR>><BR>><BR>>=20
>> =3D<BR>>>"Dimitrios"=3D20<BR>>> <<A =
>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
>> =3D<BR>>>skrev i=3D20<BR>>> melding=20
>> =3D3D<BR>>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>>=20
>> =3D<BR>>>><BR>> =3D20<BR>>> > =
>>Hi,<BR>>=20
>> > Thanks for your replies.<BR>> =3D<BR>>>> What=20
>> I=3D20<BR>>> have managed is to have the same start and =
>>end for=20
>> both=3D20<BR>>> =
>>audio<BR>=3D3D<BR>>files<BR>>=20
>> > just by cutting at cursor =3D<BR>>>pointy =
>>on=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> both tracks.<BR>> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =
>>
>> =3D<BR>>>themhas=3D20<BR>>> different cut=20
>> points<BR>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>> >=20
>> =3D<BR>>>joint<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> > points =
>>, does this=20
>> matter?<BR>> > If you ask me why =3D<BR>>>it=20
>> is=3D20<BR>>> because these tracks are not actually=20
>> =3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but<BR>>=20
>> =3D20<BR>>> > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I =
>>had=20
>> tomove different=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> parts<BR>=3D3D<BR>>on=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>>each<BR>>=20
>> > =3D<BR>>>of the=3D20<BR>>> "stereo" tracks to =
>>make them on=20
>> time.<BR>> > I want a =
>>=3D<BR>>>stereo=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> effect because I wanna expand the stereo=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> perspective<BR>=3D3D<BR>>of=3D3D20<BR>> >=20
>> =3D<BR>>>them<BR>> >=3D20<BR>>> pl;aying =
>>hard left=20
>> and hard right.<BR>> > Have you tried=20
>> =3D<BR>>>T-racks=3D20<BR>>> compressor's stereo =
>>widening knob ??=20
>> !!<BR>> > Amazing =
>>=3D<BR>>>stereo=3D20<BR>>> result=20
>> with complete mono compatibility , not like=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =3D3D<BR>>waves=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>>imager<BR>> >=20
>> at=3D20<BR>>> all...<BR>> > =
>>Cheers,<BR>> >=20
>> =3D<BR>>>DImitrios<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> =
>>><BR>>=20
>> ><BR>> > "Ennio" <<A=3D20<BR>>> =
>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:e=
>>nnio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>>&g=
>>t; =20
>> wrote:<BR>> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both=20
>> =3D<BR>>>sides of=3D20<BR>>> the stereo file=20
>> must<BR>=3D3D<BR>>be<BR>> >=20
>> =3D<BR>>>at<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> >>the =
>>identical spot=20
>> - down to the sample (the furthest down you=20
>> =3D<BR>>>can=3D20<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>go =
>>on<BR>>=20
>> > the<BR>> >>zoom=3D20<BR>>> =
>>tool)<BR>>=20
>> >><BR>> >>"erlilo" =
>><<A=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
>>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=20
>> wrote in =3D<BR>>>message <A=3D20<BR>>> =
>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f4d36=
>>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>=20
>> =3D20<BR>>> >>> Is it exactly the same length on =
>>each=20
>> stereo files or no=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> different<BR>=3D3D<BR>>holes<BR>>=20
>> >>in<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> >>> any of =
>>the stereo=20
>> objects?<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> =
>>>>><BR>>=20
>> >>> Erling<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> =20
>> >>><BR>> >>> "Dimitrios"=20
>> <<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
>>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
>> skrev i=3D20<BR>>> melding=3D3D20<BR>> =
>>>>>=20
>> <A=3D20<BR>>> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f=
>>3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>=20
>> =3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>>> >>> ><BR>> =
>>
>> >>> > Hi,<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> =
>>>>> > I=20
>> have almost finished my project mixing and when I =3D<BR>>>try=20
>> to=3D20<BR>>> put =
>>a<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>>=20
>> >>> > =3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>> =
>>=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> >>> > native<BR>> >>> > effect on any =
>>
>> =3D<BR>>>audio=3D20<BR>>> track on any submix when I =
>>try to save=20
>> I =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>always<BR>> =
>>>=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> get<BR>> >>> > assertion<BR>>=20
>> =3D<BR>>>>>> >=3D20<BR>>> failed and =
>>cannot save=20
>> either on same name or other...<BR>> =3D20<BR>>> =20
>> >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as=20
>> =3D<BR>>>I did=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> before<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but<BR>> =
>>>>don't<BR>>=20
>> =3D<BR>>>>>>=3D20<BR>>> > know why Paris =
>>doesn't let=20
>> to...<BR>> >>> >=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> Regards,<BR>> >>> > Dimitrios<BR>>=20
>> =3D20<BR>>> >>><BR>> =
>>>>><BR>>=20
>> =3D<BR>>>>><BR>> =3D20<BR>>> =20
>> >><BR>>=20
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>>>=3D3D20<BR>><BR>><BR>><B=
>>R>><!DOCTYPE=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =
>>Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>=
>><META=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
>>content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>>
>> =3D<BR>>>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></ST=
>>YLE><BR>></HEA=3D<BR>>>D><BR>><BODY=3D=
>>20<BR>>> =20
>> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>>size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR&=
>>gt;><DIV><F=3D<BR>>>ONT=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rendering is your answer. Don't=20
>> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>render=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> tracks=3D3D20<BR>>with plugins. In stereo the right=20
>> side=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>> size=3D3D3D2>won't =
>></FONT><FONT=20
>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>have=3D20<BR>>>&n=
>>bsp;=20
>> any=3D3D20<BR>>effect. Double check to see that their timing =
>>is=20
>> =3D<BR>>>correct=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =
>>=3D3D<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=
>><FONT=20
>> =3D<BR>>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>> =
>>size=3D3D3D2>Some people=20
>> have problems with=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =
>>=3D3D<BR>>that.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=
>>;<FONT=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>>size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>>=
>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>=3D<BR>>>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RI=
>>GHT:=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>=3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT:=20
>> =3D<BR>>>#000000 2px=3D20<BR>>> solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
>>
>> 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"erlilo"=20
>> =3D<BR>>><<A=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no<=
>>/A>>=3D3D20'>mailto:erlil=3D<BR>>>o@online.no">erlilo@o=
>>nline.no</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>>=20
>> =3D20<BR>>> wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>>=20
>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux&=
>>lt;/A>...</DIV>There'>n=3D<BR>>>ews:43900b57$1@linux"&g=
>>t;news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=3D<BR>>>ere</=
>>A><BR>=3D3D<BR>>you=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> have=3D3D20<BR>> the problem. I think rendering the tracks =
>>and=20
>> =3D<BR>>>look after=3D20<BR>>> that=20
>> <BR>each<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> stereopair =
>>is=20
>> =3D<BR>>>starting and=3D20<BR>>> ending at the same =
>>places will=20
>> do the job=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =3D3D<BR>><BR>when=3D3D20<BR>> saving under a =
>>new name,=20
>> =3D<BR>>>just to be=3D20<BR>>> sure to go back if =
>>something are=20
>> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>><BR>going=3D3D20<BR>> =
>>
>> =3D20<BR>>> wrong again. If the time alignments are going =
>>wrong in=20
>> some of=3D20<BR>>> the=3D3D20<BR>> =
>><BR>stereofiles, you=20
>> can rendering the =3D<BR>>>old, hard=3D20<BR>>> way, =
>>as in=20
>> version 2,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D20<BR>>=20
>> =3D<BR>>><BR>mixing down=3D20<BR>>> each =
>>stereopair with=20
>> panning hard left and right and=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =3D3D<BR>>muting=3D3D20<BR>> all <BR>other =
>>tracks. Then=20
>> =3D<BR>>>you can=3D20<BR>>> import them into the =
>>project=20
>> again<BR>=3D3D<BR>>on =
>>=3D<BR>>>their=3D3D20<BR>>=20
>> old=3D20<BR>>> <BR>places and give them=20
>> new=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR&=
>>gt;<BR><BR>=3D<BR>>>"Dimitrios"=3D3D20<BR>>=20
>> =3D20<BR>>> <<A =
>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr=
>></A'>mailto:musurgio=3D<BR>>>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.g=
>>r</A</A>>>=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =3D3D<BR>>skrev i=3D3D20<BR>> melding =
>><A=3D3D20<BR>>=20
>> =3D<BR>>><BR>>> =20
>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux&=
>>lt;/A>...<BR>><BR>&=3D<BR>>>g'>news:439000=
>>f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=3D<BR>>>=
>>;><BR>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>>=
>>=20
>> =3D20<BR>>> Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your =
>>replies.<BR>>=20
>> What I have =3D<BR>>>managed=3D20<BR>>> is to=20
>> =3D3D<BR>>have=3D3D20<BR>> the same start and end =
>>for=20
>> =3D<BR>>>both audio=3D20<BR>>> files<BR>> =
>>just by=20
>> cutting at =
>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>cursor=3D3D20<BR>>=20
>> pointy=3D20<BR>>> on both tracks.<BR>> Buit =
>>insight the=20
>> stereo tracks each of=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =3D3D<BR>>themhas=3D3D20<BR>> different cut points =
>>and=20
>> =3D<BR>>><BR>>=3D20<BR>>> =
>>joint<BR>> points ,=20
>> does this=3D3D20<BR>>=20
>> =3D<BR>>>matter?<BR>>=3D20<BR>>> If you ask =
>>me why it=20
>> is because these tracks are not=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =3D3D<BR>>actually=3D3D20<BR>> stereo =
>>but<BR>> two=20
>> =3D<BR>>>takes of=3D20<BR>>> acoustic guitar playing =
>>so I had=20
>> =3D3D<BR>>tomove=3D3D20<BR>>=20
>> =3D<BR>>>different=3D20<BR>>> parts on =
>><BR>>=20
>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to=3D20<BR>>> =20
>> =3D3D<BR>>make them=3D3D20<BR>> on =
>>time.<BR>> I want=20
>> =3D<BR>>>a stereo=3D20<BR>>> effect because I wanna =
>>expand the=20
>> =3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>>=20
>> =3D<BR>>>perspective=3D20<BR>>> of <BR>>=20
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>>=3D3D<BR>>why=3D3D20<BR>> Paris=20
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>>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D20<BR>>=20
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>Was a long day...I figured it out
Don
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4390f7c9@linux...
> Another option that was given to me re: these live vocal tracks
>
> "You could make a copy of the vocal track, and cut out all the bleed
> inbetween vocals. Set up your gate to key off the copy track. Adjust your
> threshold, reduction and times accordingly"
>
> Thoughts
>
> Don
>I've been in the new place over a month now, and it does take some time before
moves settle in, but let me put a couple of things in perspective...
For all you non-Melnbournites... which is the vast majority of you, I used
to live in Glen Waverley. Glen Waverley is, according to my "Melways" directory,
about 20km from the city centre of Melbourne Australia. Honestly I thought
it was further than that before I went for the actual number from the book.
Suffice to say I was a fair way out...
As I look at the book now and see the numbers, I'm currently, in my new place,
and the new NG home (with the server now in, oddly enough, my kitchen ;o),
just inside the 5km circle. What's more, I'm north of the city, and the greater
percentage of the band scene is north of the city here in Melbourne. Not
all that much happens in the CBD itself. In Melbourne things are centred
around the inner suburbs, which is where I haven't been, but now am... ;o)
Tonight I caught a bus a fraction west, to one of the many epecentres of
Melbounre music, Brunswick, and saw a guy from work play his first ever
original gig at the Brunswick Hotel. It cost me $3.10, maybe $2 U.S. return.
At my last place a taxi home only would be probably $60aus from this venue.
I've already caught the local tram twice to various events. The tram heads
south to the city. Tonight was the first time I caught the west bound bus.
South and west are pretty much the only directions I need to go ;o). East
are cover bands ;oP. North are people who don't care about music. ;o) The
furthest music venues from me now are in St Kilda, which is south of the
city, and on the bay/beach, but still in the 5km radius. A taxi from there
would still be far cheaper than it was to my last place, and most of the
time I would be able to catch a tram or two or something...
It is, as they say, all good. ;o)
The only bad thing I have noted, apart from my studio not having space for
an actual band anymore, is that the power here seems to be 5 volts higher
and hence my UPS for the NG server keeps clicking and complaining, and the
server has actually hung twice (shhhh... don't tell anyone, nobody has noticed...
;o) but the good news is my brother has found the software for the UPS (yes
Rick he's done something good! ;o) and I may be able to correct the issues
without undue expense...
My point is, though, that I've moved from a boring outer suburb into a fantastic
inner suburb, and it ROCKS!! I haven't even told you about the great Indian
and Tibetan food I've discovered!!!
Honestly, I'm lovin it.
I was just realising earlier...
Over the last ten to fifteen years, I've changed from some dude who liked
the typical local beer and commerial music, to someone who has taste in food,
music, beer, whatever. At no particular point I made a choice, and this new
home is, largely, the culmination of that journey.
It's great to be able to choose what to play, what not to play, what to watch,
etc, without having to answer to anyone.
Tomorrow I'm going down to the RRR BBQ. RRR being one of the local community
subscriber radio stations to which I subscribe (and love). I can catch the
bus for $3.10 again. At my last place I would have stayed at home and heard
it over the radio... now will be there in person.
I so much feel like I'm in the middle. In fact, I finally am.
And, sorry Martin ;o), but Melbourne really is the cultural centre of Australia.
;o) It's so good to be in close to the place where everything's happening.
This has been a long long post... ;o)
But gee, I'm so happy with my decision.
Now I just need to buy a place in here. ;o)
There's still some tweakin to do to get the NG running perfectly in the new
place. It's getting there though. It's only hung twice. ;o) If we go offline
you know why. ;o)
I'll buy a new UPS if I need to. It's all worth it.
Cheers,
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Dimitrios,
Sorry I had a gig last night. Do as Erling suggested regarding =
rendering
all tracks and copying to a new folder. Start a new Paris project and =
call
it something different. Go to audio window and import all newly =
rendered
files you need. Set a new record path too. Make sure saves work after =
each step. =20
In original project make sure all effects being used have been saved =
individually. In old project
copy all mixer settings in Mixer A (You discovered this last week!), =
open new project and paste=20
all mixer settings in its Mixer A. Try to save right after this and =
every step. Close Mixer A in new project
then reopen it. This should make all the plugins 'appear'. Just a =
quirky Paris thing.
Now get those presets working in each plugin. Try a save. If all is =
well do these same steps
across all Submixes until all Mixers/plugins are the same as original =
project. Try a save.
Now might be a good time to try your stereo plugin that causes your =
problem in the old
project. If after it's installed in the new one, you can save then =
you're almost out of the woods.
If you were using automation you will need to copy that too. Go to =
Automation Editor A in old project.
Select Volume, Set Now Line to beginning of project. Use 'Select All' =
command or drag
across all 16 tracks with mouse to highlight everything. Control C =
(copy). Go to new project,
put Now Line at beginning of project in Automation Editor and make sure =
active track is the first one that was active
on the old project when copying. Otherwise your data may paste a track =
or two off. The effects
return automation has to be done separately from tracks. After this, go =
to original project and select Mute.
Copy paste etc.. Repeat these steps on all auto editors that were being =
used.
It sounds harder than it really is. Remember to try saving between each =
step in new project.
If at any time it doesn't want to save, you have found out why there is =
a problem. Possibly
an unknown bug. =20
Good luck. You'll be a better man for it!
Tom
"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message news:43918529@linux...
Dimitros
My way of doing this is:
Have Paris closed,
make a new folder on the audio harddisk with Explorer or something=20
similar(I'm using TotalCommander).
Copy ONLY waves or/and PAF files from the old project into the new =
folder.
Start a new project in Paris.
Import from the new folder all the Waves and PAF files you need into =
the new=20
project and set the path to the new project.
In Ediit menu, set the files into the subgroups and channels you wish.
Now you have a new project without any old, saved information at all =
to=20
start from scratch.
It's important that all files are rendered to start from zero in the =
old=20
project.
If this doesn't help and the earlier rendered stereofiles have =
absolutelly=20
correct lenghts, I can't think of other things than plugin problems.
Hope this can help to explain my way of doing something with this kind =
of=20
problems.
Erling
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding =
news:43917c01$1@linux...
>
>
> Sory if I ask much but the way I do the project rebuild does not =
help.
> How do you do a rebuild ?
> I just go to audio folder export audio objects or wave files under a =
new
> folder then save the new song and then reopen from new folder.
> I guess you might refer to something different here right ?
> Can you explain your way ?
> Thanks
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Dimitrios,
>>I agree with Erlilo. Try different channels or a different
>>submix if you can. Otherwise rebuilding the mix from
>>scratch in a new project is the next best bet. Copy all
>>mixer settings and presets of effects to make it easier.
>>Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =3D
>>news:43908331$1@linux...
>>
>> Dimitrios, You probably know this, but just to make sur
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>>the
>> >> =3D3D3D
>> >> >job=3D3D3D20
>> >> > when saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if =
=3D3D
>> >>something
>> >> =3D3D3D
>> >> >are=3D3D3D20
>> >> > going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong =
in =3D
>>some
>> =3D3D
>> >>of =3D3D3D
>> >> >the=3D3D3D20
>> >> > stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in =
version
> =3D
>>2,
>> >=3D3D
>> >>=3D3D3D
>> >> >when=3D3D3D20
>> >> > mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and =
right =3D
>>and =3D3D
>> >>=3D3D3D
>> >> >muting all=3D3D3D20
>> >> > other tracks. Then you can import them into the project =
again =3D
>>on =3D3D
>> >>their
>> >> =3D3D3D
>> >> >old=3D3D3D20
>> >> > places and give them new names.
>> >> >
>> >> > Erling
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding =3D3D3D
>> >> >news:439000f1$1@linux...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Hi,
>> >> > > Thanks for your replies.
>> >> > > What I have managed is to have the same start and end for =
=3D
>>both =3D3D
>> >>audio
>> >> =3D3D3D
>> >> >files
>> >> > > just by cutting at cursor pointy on both tracks.
>> >> > > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of themhas different =
cut
> =3D
>>=3D3D
>> >>points
>> >> =3D3D3D
>> >> >and=3D3D3D20
>> >> > > joint
>> >> > > points , does this matter?
>> >> > > If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not =
actually
> =3D
>>=3D3D
>> >>stereo
>> >> =3D3D3D
>> >> >but
>> >> > > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove =3D
>>different =3D3D
>> >>parts
>> >> =3D3D3D
>> >> >on=3D3D3D20
>> >> > > each
>> >> > > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on time.
>> >> > > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the stereo =
=3D3D
>> >>perspective
>> >> =3D3D3D
>> >> >of=3D3D3D20
>> >> > > them
>> >> > > pl;aying hard left and hard right.
>> >> > > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening knob =
?? =3D
>>!!
>> >> > > Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =
not
> =3D
>>like
>> >=3D3D
>> >>=3D3D3D
>> >> >waves=3D3D3D20
>> >> > > imager
>> >> > > at all...
>> >> > > Cheers,
>> >> > > DImitrios
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "Ennio" <ennio@galicorp.net> wrote:
>> >> > >>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the =
stereo =3D
>>file
>> =3D3D
>> >>must
>> >> =3D3D3D
>> >> >be
>> >> > > at
>> >> > >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest =
down =3D
>>you =3D3D
>> >>can =3D3D3D
>> >> >go on
>> >> > > the
>> >> > >>zoom tool)
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =3D3D
>> >>news:438f4d36@linux...
>> >> > >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or =
no =3D
>>=3D3D
>> >>different
>> >> =3D3D3D
>> >> >holes
>> >> > >>in
>> >> > >>> any of the stereo objects?
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Erling
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i =
melding=3D3D3D20
>> >> > >>> news:438f3760$1@linux...
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> > Hi,
>> >> > >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I =
try =3D
>>to =3D3D
>> >>put a
>> >> =3D3D3D
>> >> >
>> >> > >>> > stereo
>> >> > >>> > native
>> >> > >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix when I try to =
=3D
>>save I
>> >=3D3D
>> >>=3D3D3D
>> >> >always
>> >> > > get
>> >> > >>> > assertion
>> >> > >>> > failed and cannot save either on same name or =
other...
>> >> > >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as I =
did
> =3D
>>=3D3D
>> >>before
>> >> =3D3D3D
>> >> >but
>> >> > >>don't
>> >> > >>> > know why Paris doesn't let to...
>> >> > >>> > Regards,
>> >> > >>> > Dimitrios
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >=3D3D3D20
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
>> >> ><HTML><HEAD>
>> >> ><META http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
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>> >> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff>
>> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
>> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Rendering is =
your =3D
>>answer. Don't
>> >=3D3D
>> >>=3D3D3D
>> >> >render tracks=3D3D3D20
>> >> >with plugins. In stereo the right side </FONT></DIV>
>> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>won't =
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>> >> >size=3D3D3D3D2>have any=3D3D3D20
>> >> >effect. Double check to see that their timing is correct =
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>> >> >too.</FONT></DIV>
>> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Some people have =
=3D
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>> =3D3D
>> >>=3D3D3D
>> >> >that.</FONT></DIV>
>> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>> >> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D3D20
>> >> >style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
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>> >> > <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D3D3D
>> >> =
>href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D20
>> >> > wrote in message <A=3D3D3D20
>> >> > =3D3D
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>> >>2,
>> >> =3D3D3D
>> >> >when=3D3D3D20
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>> >>and =3D3D3D
>> >> >muting=3D3D3D20
>> >> > all <BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the =
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> =3D
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>> >>again
>> >> =3D3D3D
>> >> >on their=3D3D3D20
>> >> > old <BR>places and give them new =3D3D3D
>> >> >names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>"Dimitrios"=3D3D3D20
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>>href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
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>> >>=3D3D3D
>> >> >have=3D3D3D20
>> >> > the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by =
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>> >>=3D3D3D
>> >> >cursor=3D3D3D20
>> >> > pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks =
each
> =3D
>>of
>> >=3D3D
>> >>=3D3D3D
>> >> >themhas=3D3D3D20
>> >> > different cut points and <BR>> joint<BR>> points , does =3D
>>this=3D3D3D20
>> >> > matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these tracks =
are =3D
>>not
>> =3D3D
>> >>=3D3D3D
>> >> >actually=3D3D3D20
>> >> > stereo but<BR>> two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I =
had =3D
>>=3D3D3D
>> >> >tomove=3D3D3D20
>> >> > different parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks =
to =3D
>>=3D3D3D
>> >> >make them=3D3D3D20
>> >> > on time.<BR>> I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand =
the
> =3D
>>=3D3D3D
>> >> >stereo=3D3D3D20
>> >> > perspective of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and =3D
>>hard=3D3D3D20
>> >> > right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo =
widening
> =3D
>>=3D3D3D
>> >> >knob ??=3D3D3D20
>> >> > !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono =
compatibility
> =3D
>>, =3D3D
>> >>=3D3D3D
>> >> >not like=3D3D3D20
>> >> > waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at all...<BR>> =
Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D3D20
>> >> > DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio" <<A=3D3D3D20
>> >> > =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D3D=
20
>> >> > wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of =
the
> =3D
>>=3D3D3D
>> >> >stereo=3D3D3D20
>> >> > file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the =
=3D
>>=3D3D3D
>> >> >sample=3D3D3D20
>> >> > (the furthest down you can go on<BR>> =
the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D3D20
>> >> > tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" <<A=3D3D3D20
>> >> > =
href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> =3D
>>wrote in
>> =3D3D
>> >>=3D3D3D
>> >> >message <A=3D3D3D20
>> >> > =3D3D3D
>> >> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>>>> =
=3D
>>=3D3D3D
>> >> >Is it=3D3D3D20
>> >> > exactly the same length on each stereo files or no =3D
>>different=3D3D3D20
>> >> > holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the stereo=3D3D3D20
>> >> > objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D3D20
>> >> > Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D3D20
>> >> > =
href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>
> =3D
>>skrev
>> >=3D3D
>> >>i =3D3D3D
>> >> >melding=3D3D3D20
>> >> > <BR>>>> <A=3D3D3D20
>> >> > =3D3D3D
>> >> =3D3D
>> =3D
=
>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR=
>>>&=3D
>>g=3D3D3D=3D3D
>> >>
>> >> >t;=3D3D3D20
>> >> > ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D3D3D
>> >> >finished my=3D3D3D20
>> >> > project mixing and when I try to put a <BR>>>> >=3D3D3D20
>> >> > stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > effect on any =3D3D3D
>> >> >audio=3D3D3D20
>> >> > track on any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =
=3D3D3D
>> >> >get<BR>>>>=3D3D3D20
>> >> > > assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on =
=3D3D3D
>> >> >same name=3D3D3D20
>> >> > or other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use =
=3D3D3D
>> >> >stereo=3D3D3D20
>> >> > effects as I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know =
=3D3D3D
>> >> >why=3D3D3D20
>> >> > Paris doesn't let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D3D3D
>> >> >>=3D3D3D20
>> >> > =3D3D3D
>> >> >Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>=3D3D3D
>> >> >=3D3D3D20
>> >> > <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> >><HTML><HEAD>
>> >><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
=3D3D
>> >>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
>> >><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
>> >><STYLE></STYLE>
>> >></HEAD>
>> >><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
>> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
>> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Are you saying you can =
save =3D
>>before this
>> >=3D3D
>> >>stereo=3D3D20
>> >>plugin</FONT></DIV>
>> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>is inserted? I'd say =
you may =3D
>>have =3D3D
>> >>a rouge=3D3D20
>> >>plugin that</FONT></DIV>
>> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>your wrapper or Paris =
just =3D
>>doesn't =3D3D
>> >>like. Try=3D3D20
>> >>the same thing</FONT></DIV>
>> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>in a different project. =
ie: =3D
>>Same =3D3D
>> >>stereo=3D3D20
>> >>plugin inserted</FONT></DIV>
>> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>on another stereo pair =
of =3D
>>tracks. =3D3D
>> >>Now can you=3D3D20
>> >>save?</FONT></DIV>
>> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>If so it may be your =
project. =3D
>>If =3D3D
>> >>not it's=3D3D20
>> >>probably your plugin.</FONT></DIV>
>> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
>> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
>> >>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px;
> =3D
>>=3D3D
>> >>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> >> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20
>> >> href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
wrote
> =3D
>>in =3D3D
>> >>message=3D3D20
>> >> <A =3D3D
>> =3D
=
>>>>href=3D3D3D"news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
<BR>=3D
>>Than=3D3D
>> >>ks=3D3D20
>> >> for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware =
method
> =3D
>>via
>> >=3D3D
>> >>adat=3D3D20
>> >> and achieved one nice<BR>compact stereo track with my acoustic =
=3D3D
>> >>guitars, I even=3D3D20
>> >> saved all audio files<BR>on new folder and saved under new =
name I
> =3D
>>used
>> >=3D3D
>> >>the=3D3D20
>> >> clear missing files just<BR>before that but again no luck when =
I =3D
>>=3D3D
>> >>put a=3D3D20
>> >> stereo native effect on this stereotrack<BR>even without =
hitting =3D
>>=3D3D
>> >>play =3D3D20
>> >> when I try to save assertion fails and doesn't<BR>allow of any =
=3D
>>save =3D3D
>> >>!<BR>Note=3D3D20
>> >> that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve=3D3D20
>> >> ...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
>> >> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20=
>> >> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>Rendering is your=3D3D20
>> >> answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In=3D3D20
>> >> stereo<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the right side=3D3D3D20<BR>>won't have =
any =3D3D
>> >>effect. =3D3D20
>> >> Double check to see that their timing is =3D3D
>> >>correct<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>too.<BR>>Some=3D3D20
>> >> people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>> "erlilo" =3D3D
>> >><<A=3D3D20
>> >> href=3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> =
wrote in
> =3D
>>=3D3D
>> >>message <A=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D
>> =
>>href=3D3D3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >> There=3D3D20
>> >> you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =
=3D3D
>> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>after=3D3D20
>> >> that=3D3D3D20<BR>> each stereopair is starting and ending at =
the =3D3D
>> >>same=3D3D20
>> >> places will do the<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>job=3D3D3D20<BR>> when =
saving =3D3D
>> >>under a new=3D3D20
>> >> name, just to be sure to go back if =3D3D
>> >>something<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in =
some
> =3D
>>of=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D3D20<BR>> stereofiles, you can rendering =
the =3D3D
>> >>old, hard=3D3D20
>> >> way, as in version 2, =3D3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D3D20<BR>> mixing =
down =3D3D
>> >>each=3D3D20
>> >> stereopair with panning hard left and right and =3D
>>=3D3D3D<BR>>muting=3D3D20
>> >> all=3D3D3D20<BR>> other tracks. Then you can import them into =
the =3D
>>=3D3D
>> >>project=3D3D20
>> >> again on their<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>old=3D3D3D20<BR>> places and =
give =3D3D
>> >>them new=3D3D20
>> >> names.<BR>><BR>> Erling<BR>><BR>><BR>> =3D3D
>> >>"Dimitrios"=3D3D20
>> >> <<A =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =3D
>>=3D3D
>> >>skrev i=3D3D20
>> >> melding =3D3D3D<BR>>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>> =3D3D
>> >>><BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> > Hi,<BR>> > Thanks for your replies.<BR>> =3D3D
>> >>> What I=3D3D20
>> >> have managed is to have the same start and end for both=3D3D20
>> >> audio<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>files<BR>> > just by cutting at cursor =
=3D3D
>> >>pointy on=3D3D20
>> >> both tracks.<BR>> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =
=3D3D
>> >>themhas=3D3D20
>> >> different cut points<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D
>> >>joint<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> > points , does this matter?<BR>> > If you ask me why =3D3D
>> >>it is=3D3D20
>> >> because these tracks are not actually =3D3D
>> >>stereo<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>but<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove =3D
>>different=3D3D20
>> >> parts<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>on=3D3D3D20<BR>> > each<BR>> > =3D3D
>> >>of the=3D3D20
>> >> "stereo" tracks to make them on time.<BR>> > I want a =3D3D
>> >>stereo=3D3D20
>> >> effect because I wanna expand the stereo=3D3D20
>> >> perspective<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>of=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D
>> >>them<BR>> >=3D3D20
>> >> pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>> > Have you tried =3D3D
>> >>T-racks=3D3D20
>> >> compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!<BR>> > Amazing =3D3D
>> >>stereo=3D3D20
>> >> result with complete mono compatibility , not like=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>waves=3D3D3D20<BR>> > imager<BR>> > at=3D3D20
>> >> all...<BR>> > Cheers,<BR>> > =3D3D
>> >>DImitrios<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> ><BR>> ><BR>> > "Ennio" <<A=3D3D20
>> >> =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20
>> >> wrote:<BR>> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both =3D3D
>> >>sides of=3D3D20
>> >> the stereo file must<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>be<BR>> > =3D3D
>> >>at<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down =
you =3D
>>=3D3D
>> >>can=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>go on<BR>> > the<BR>> >>zoom=3D3D20
>> >> tool)<BR>> >><BR>> >>"erlilo" <<A=3D3D20
>> >> href=3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> =
wrote in
> =3D
>>=3D3D
>> >>message <A=3D3D20
>> >> =
href=3D3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>> =3D
>>=3D3D20
>> >> >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or =
no=3D3D20
>> >> different<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>holes<BR>> >>in<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> >>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> >>><BR>> >>> Erling<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> >>><BR>> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20
>> >> href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
skrev
> =3D
>>i=3D3D20
>> >> melding=3D3D3D20<BR>> >>> <A=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D
>> =
>>href=3D3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >>=3D3D20
>> >> >>> ><BR>> >>> > Hi,<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I =
=3D3D
>> >>try to=3D3D20
>> >> put a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> >>> > =3D3D
>> >>stereo<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> >>> > native<BR>> >>> > effect on any =3D3D
>> >>audio=3D3D20
>> >> track on any submix when I try to save I =3D3D
>> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>always<BR>> >=3D3D20
>> >> get<BR>> >>> > assertion<BR>> =3D3D
>> >>>>> >=3D3D20
>> >> failed and cannot save either on same name or other...<BR>> =
=3D3D20
>> >> >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as =
=3D3D
>> >>I did=3D3D20
>> >> before<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>but<BR>> >>don't<BR>> =3D3D
>> >>>>>=3D3D20
>> >> > know why Paris doesn't let to...<BR>> >>> >=3D3D20
>> >> Regards,<BR>> >>> > Dimitrios<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> =3D3D
>> >>>><BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> >><BR>> =3D3D
>> >>>=3D3D3D20<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=3D3D20
>> >> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D3D20
>> >> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D3D20
>> >> http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D3D
>> >>content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20
>> >> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D
>> >>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D3D
>> >>D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20
>> >> bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D
>> >>size=3D3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=3D3D
>> >>ONT=3D3D20
>> >> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Rendering is your answer. =
Don't =3D3D
>> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>render=3D3D20
>> >> tracks=3D3D3D20<BR>>with plugins. In stereo the right =
side=3D3D20
>> >> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
>> >> size=3D3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D3D
>> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>have=3D3D20
>> >> any=3D3D3D20<BR>>effect. Double check to see that their timing =
is =3D
>>=3D3D
>> >>correct=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
>> >>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
>> >> size=3D3D3D3D2>Some people have problems with=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>that.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
>> >> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D
>> =
>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D3D20 <BR>=3D3D
>> >>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D3D20
>> >> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =3D
>>=3D3D
>> >>#000000 2px=3D3D20
>> >> solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"erlilo" =3D3D
>> >><<A=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D
>> =3D
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>>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D20'>=
mailto=3D
>>:erlil=3D3D
>> >>o@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D20</A><BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> wrote in message <A=3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D
>> =3D
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>>>>href=3D3D3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
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>>e'>n=3D3D
>> >>ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=3D3D
>> >>ere</A><BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you=3D3D20
>> >> have=3D3D3D20<BR>> the problem. I think rendering the tracks =
and =3D3D
>> >>look after=3D3D20
>> >> that <BR>each<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> stereopair is =3D3D
>> >>starting and=3D3D20
>> >> ending at the same places will do the job=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>><BR>when=3D3D3D20<BR>> saving under a new name, =
=3D3D
>> >>just to be=3D3D20
>> >> sure to go back if something are =3D3D
>> >>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>going=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some =
=3D
>>of=3D3D20
>> >> the=3D3D3D20<BR>> <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the =3D3D
>> >>old, hard=3D3D20
>> >> way, as in version 2,<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
>> >><BR>mixing down=3D3D20
>> >> each stereopair with panning hard left and right and=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>muting=3D3D3D20<BR>> all <BR>other tracks. Then =
=3D3D
>> >>you can=3D3D20
>> >> import them into the project again<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>on =3D3D
>> >>their=3D3D3D20<BR>> old=3D3D20
>> >> <BR>places and give them new=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D
>> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>=3D3D
>> >>"Dimitrios"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> <<A href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D
>> =3D
=
>>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:=
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>> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>skrev i=3D3D3D20<BR>> melding <A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D
>> >>
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D
>> =3D
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>>>>href=3D3D3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><=
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>> >>g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=3D3D
>> >>><BR>&g</A>=3D3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have =3D3D
>> >>managed=3D3D20
>> >> is to =3D3D3D<BR>>have=3D3D3D20<BR>> the same start and end =
for =3D3D
>> >>both audio=3D3D20
>> >> files<BR>> just by cutting at =3D3D
>> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>cursor=3D3D3D20<BR>> pointy=3D3D20
>> >> on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each =
of=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>themhas=3D3D3D20<BR>> different cut points and =
=3D3D
>> >><BR>>=3D3D20
>> >> joint<BR>> points , does this=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
>> >>matter?<BR>>=3D3D20
>> >> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>actually=3D3D3D20<BR>> stereo but<BR>> two =3D3D
>> >>takes of=3D3D20
>> >> acoustic guitar playing so I had =
=3D3D3D<BR>>tomove=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
>> >>different=3D3D20
>> >> parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>make them=3D3D3D20<BR>> on time.<BR>> I want =3D3D
>> >>a stereo=3D3D20
>> >> effect because I wanna expand the =
=3D3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
>> >>perspective=3D3D20
>> >> of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and=3D3D20
>> >> hard=3D3D3D20<BR>> right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks =3D3D
>> >>compressor's=3D3D20
>> >> stereo widening =3D3D3D<BR>>knob ??=3D3D3D20<BR>> !!<BR>> =
=3D3D
>> >>Amazing=3D3D20
>> >> stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =3D
>>=3D3D3D<BR>>not=3D3D20
>> >> like=3D3D3D20<BR>> waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at=3D3D20
>> >> all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio"=3D3D20
>> >> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D
>> =3D
=
>>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D3D=
20'>ma=3D
>>ilto:e=3D3D
>> =
>>nnio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D3D20</A><BR>>&n=3D3D
>> >>bsp;=3D3D20
>> >> wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides =3D3D
>> >>of the=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>> file must be<BR>>=3D3D20
>> >> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>sample=3D3D3D20<BR>> (the furthest down you can =
go=3D3D20
>> >> on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" =3D3D
>> >><<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D
>> =3D
=
>>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erli=
lo@o=3D
>>nlin=3D3D
>> >>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=3D3D20
>> >> wrote in =3D3D3D<BR>>message <A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
>> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D
>> =3D
=
>>>>href=3D3D3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:=
438f=3D
>>4d36=3D3D
>> >>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>Is it=3D3D3D20<BR>> exactly the same length on =
each =3D3D
>> >>stereo files=3D3D20
>> >> or no different=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the=3D3D20
>> >> stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D
>> >>objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios"=3D3D20
>> >> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D
>> =3D
=
>>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:=
musu=3D
>>rgio=3D3D
>> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D3D20
>> >> skrev i =3D3D3D<BR>>melding=3D3D3D20<BR>> <BR>>>>=3D3D20
>> >> <A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D
>> =3D
=
>>>>href=3D3D3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>=
&g'>=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >>news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=3D3D
>> >>;>&g</A>=3D3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have =3D3D
>> >>almost=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>finished my=3D3D3D20<BR>> project mixing and when =
I =3D3D
>> >>try to put a=3D3D20
>> >> <BR>>>> >=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
>> >>stereo<BR>>>> >=3D3D20
>> >> native<BR>>>> > effect on any=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>audio=3D3D3D20<BR>> track on any submix when I try =
to =3D3D
>> >>save I=3D3D20
>> >> always<BR>> =3D3D
>> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>get<BR>>>>=3D3D3D20<BR>> >=3D3D20
>> >> assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>same name=3D3D3D20<BR>> or =3D3D
>> >>other...<BR>>>> > The=3D3D20
>> >> problem is that I want to use =3D3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D
>> >>effects as I=3D3D20
>> >> did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know=3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>why=3D3D3D20<BR>> Paris doesn't let =3D3D
>> >>to...<BR>>>>=3D3D20
>> >> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
>> >>
>> >> =3D3D
>> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>=3D3D
>> >>;>><BR>>><BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
>> >> =3D3D
>> >><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR>>=3D3D
>> >><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>><HTML><HEAD>
>><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>><STYLE></STYLE>
>></HEAD>
>><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I agree with Erlilo. Try =3D
>>different channels=3D20
>>or a different</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>submix if you can. Otherwise =
=3D
>>rebuilding the=3D20
>>mix from</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>scratch in a new project is the =
next =3D
>>best=3D20
>>bet. Copy all</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>mixer settings and presets of =
effects =3D
>>to make it=3D20
>>easier.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g=3D
>>t;=3D20
>> wrote in message <A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D"news:43908331$1@linux">news:43908331$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>=
Dimi=3D
>>trios,=3D20
>> You probably know this, but just to make sure...<BR>If you want to =
use
> =3D
>>stereo=3D20
>> native plugins, you can NOT have any mono plugins<BR>on those =
tracks.
> =3D
>>That=3D20
>> goes for native and EDS.<BR>Do you have any mono eds or native =
plugs =3D
>>also on=3D20
>> the stereo pair?<BR>Rod<BR>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=3D20
>> wrote:<BR>><BR>>Dear Tom,<BR>>It is not the plugin under =3D
>>other song I=3D20
>> can open a stereo native effect.<BR>>In my project I cannot open =
=3D
>>ANY stereo=3D20
>> effect.<BR>>Even chainer only...<BR>>I can save my project no =3D
>>problem if=3D20
>> I don't use a stereo native effect.<BR>>ALSO on submix 3 I managed =
=3D
>>toopen a=3D20
>> stereo native effect but not on submix<BR>>1 or 4 , any =
suggestion=3D20
>> ?<BR>>Regards,<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
>> =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
>> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Dimitrios,<BR>>>Are =3D
>>you saying=3D20
>> you can save before this stereo plugin<BR>>>is inserted? =3D
>>I'd say=3D20
>> you may have a rouge plugin that<BR>>>your wrapper or Paris just =
=3D
>>doesn't=3D20
>> like. Try the same thing<BR>>>in a different =3D
>>project. ie:=3D20
>> Same stereo plugin inserted<BR>>>on another stereo pair of =3D
>>tracks. =3D20
>> Now can you save?<BR>>>If so it may be your project. If =3D
>>not it's=3D20
>> probably your plugin.<BR>>><BR>>>Good=3D20
>> luck,<BR>>>Tom<BR>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote =
in =3D
>>message=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>>news:43906b78$1@linux...<BR>>><BR>>> =3D
>>Thanks for=3D20
>> your suggestions.<BR>>> I have rendered using the hardware =3D
>>method=3D20
>> via adat and achieved one =3D3D<BR>>>nice<BR>>> =3D
>>compact stereo=3D20
>> track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved all=3D20
>> audio<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>files<BR>>> on new folder and =3D
>>saved=3D20
>> under new name I used the clear missing =3D20
>> files<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>just<BR>>> before that but =3D
>>again no luck=3D20
>> when I put a stereo native effect on =3D3D<BR>>>this=3D20
>> stereotrack<BR>>> even without hitting play when I =3D
>>try to=3D20
>> save assertion fails and =3D3D<BR>>>doesn't<BR>>> =3D
>>allow of any=3D20
>> save !<BR>>> Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when =3D
>>I hit=3D20
>> SAve ...<BR>>> rEGARDS,<BR>>> =3D20
>> dIMITRIOS<BR>>><BR>>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
>> =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
>> wrote:<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> =3D
>>
>> >Dimitrios,<BR>>> >Rendering is your answer. =3D
>>Don't=3D20
>> render tracks with plugins. In =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>>> =3D20
>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >the right side=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
>>>won't have=3D20
>> any effect. Double check to see that their timing is=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>>correct<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
>> >too.<BR>>> >Some people have problems with=3D20
>> that.<BR>>> >Tom<BR>>> > "erlilo" =3D
>><<A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
=3D
>>message=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>>news:43900b57$1@linux...<BR>>> > =3D
>>There you=3D20
>> have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and=3D20
>> look<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >after=3D20
>> that=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > each stereopair is starting =3D
>>and ending=3D20
>> at the same places will do<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>the<BR>>> =3D20
>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >job=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D
>>when saving=3D20
>> under a new name, just to be sure to go back if=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>>something<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
>> >are=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > going wrong again. If the =3D
>>time=3D20
>> alignments are going wrong in some<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>of =3D
>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
>> >the=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > stereofiles, you can =3D
>>rendering the=3D20
>> old, hard way, as in version =3D
>>2,<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
>> >when=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > mixing down each =3D
>>stereopair with=3D20
>> panning hard left and right and =3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
>>>muting=3D20
>> all=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > other tracks. Then you can =3D
>>import them=3D20
>> into the project again on =3D3D<BR>>>their<BR>>> =3D20
>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >old=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D
>>places and=3D20
>> give them new names.<BR>>> ><BR>>> =3D
>>> =3D20
>> Erling<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> =3D
>>
>> > "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev =
i =3D
>>melding=3D20
>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>>> =3D
>>
>> > ><BR>>> > > =3D
>>Hi,<BR>>> =3D20
>> > > Thanks for your replies.<BR>>> > =3D
>>>=3D20
>> What I have managed is to have the same start and end for =
both=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>>audio<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
>> >files<BR>>> > > just by cutting at cursor =3D
>>pointy=3D20
>> on both tracks.<BR>>> > > Buit insight the =3D
>>stereo=3D20
>> tracks each of themhas different cut =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>>points<BR>>> =3D20
>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >and=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D
>>>=3D20
>> joint<BR>>> > > points , does this=3D20
>> matter?<BR>>> > > If you ask me why it is =3D
>>because=3D20
>> these tracks are not actually =3D3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>>> =3D20
>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >but<BR>>> > > two =3D
>>takes of=3D20
>> acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>>parts<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
>> >on=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > > each<BR>>> =3D
>>
>> > > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on =3D
>>time.<BR>>> =3D20
>> > > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the =3D
>>stereo=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>>perspective<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
>> >of=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > > them<BR>>> =3D
>>
>> > > pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>>> =3D20
>> > > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening =3D
>>knob ??=3D20
>> !!<BR>>> > > Amazing stereo result with =3D
>>complete mono=3D20
>> compatibility , not like<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
>>
>> >waves=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > > =3D
>>imager<BR>>> =3D20
>> > > at all...<BR>>> > >=3D20
>> Cheers,<BR>>> > > DImitrios<BR>>> =3D20
>> > ><BR>>> > ><BR>>> =3D
>>> =3D20
>> > "Ennio" <<A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20
>> wrote:<BR>>> > >>The in-points (and =3D
>>out-points) on=3D20
>> both sides of the stereo file<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>must<BR>>> =3D
>>
>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >be<BR>>> > >=3D20
>> at<BR>>> > >>the identical spot - down to =3D
>>the=3D20
>> sample (the furthest down you =3D3D<BR>>>can =3D
>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >go=3D20
>> on<BR>>> > > the<BR>>> > =3D20
>> >>zoom tool)<BR>>> > =3D
>>>><BR>>> =3D20
>> > >>"erlilo" <<A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
=3D
>>message=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>>news:438f4d36@linux...<BR>>> > =3D
>>>>>=3D20
>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>>different<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
>> >holes<BR>>> > >>in<BR>>> =3D
>>> =3D20
>> >>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>>> > =3D20
>> >>><BR>>> > >>>=3D20
>> Erling<BR>>> > >>><BR>>> =3D
>>> =3D20
>> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev =
i=3D20
>> melding=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > >>> <A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&n=3D=
>>bsp;=3D20
>> > >>> ><BR>>> > >>> =3D
>>>=3D20
>> Hi,<BR>>> > >>> > I have almost =3D
>>finished my=3D20
>> project mixing and when I try to =3D3D<BR>>>put =3D
>>a<BR>>> =3D20
>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> ><BR>>> > >>> =3D
>>>=3D20
>> stereo<BR>>> > >>> > =3D
>>native<BR>>> =3D20
>> > >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix =3D
>>when I=3D20
>> try to save I<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
>> >always<BR>>> > > get<BR>>> =3D
>>> =3D20
>> >>> > assertion<BR>>> > >>> =3D
>>>=3D20
>> failed and cannot save either on same name or =3D
>>other...<BR>>> =3D20
>> > >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo =3D
>>effects=3D20
>> as I did =3D3D<BR>>>before<BR>>> =3D
>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
>> >but<BR>>> > >>don't<BR>>> =3D20
>> > >>> > know why Paris doesn't let=3D20
>> to...<BR>>> > >>> >=3D20
>> Regards,<BR>>> > >>> >=3D20
>> Dimitrios<BR>>> > >>><BR>>> =3D20
>> > >>><BR>>> > =3D20
>> >><BR>>> > >><BR>>> =3D
>>> =3D20
>> >=3D3D3D20<BR>>> ><BR>>> =3D
>>><BR>>> =3D20
>> ><BR>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =3D
>>4.0=3D20
>> Transitional//EN"><BR>>> =3D20
>> ><HTML><HEAD><BR>>> ><META=3D20
>> http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
>> >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>>> ><META=3D20
>> content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =3D
>>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>>> =3D20
>> ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>>> =3D20
>> ></HEAD><BR>>> ><BODY=3D20
>> bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
>> size=3D3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =3D20
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Rendering is =3D
>>your answer.=3D20
>> Don't<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >render=3D20
>> tracks=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >with plugins. In stereo the right =3D
>>side=3D20
>> </FONT></DIV><BR>>> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
>> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>>face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
>>>size=3D3D3D3D2>have=3D20
>> any=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >effect. Double check to see that =3D
>>their timing=3D20
>> is correct =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
>> >too.</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =3D
>>><DIV><FONT=3D20
>> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Some people have problems=3D20
>> with<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
>> >that.</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =3D
>>><DIV><FONT=3D20
>> face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =3D20
>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
>>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D20
>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =3D
>>5px;<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =3D
>>0px"><BR>>> =3D20
>> > <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
>> >href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D20'>mail=
to:erl=3D
>>ilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D20</A><BR>>>&n=3D
>>bsp;=3D20
>> > wrote in message <A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
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>>tracks=3D20
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>> takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
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>> widening =3D3D3D<BR>>> >knob ??=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
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>> !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono =3D
>>compatibility ,=3D20
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>> > waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at =3D
>>all...<BR>>=3D20
>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
>> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio"=3D20
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>>both=3D20
>> sides of the =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
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>>when I=3D20
>> try to put a <BR>>>> >=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
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>>
>> assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on=3D20
>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >same name=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
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>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D
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>> I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > =3D
>>know=3D20
>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >why=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D
>>Paris doesn't=3D20
>> let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>>=3D20
>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >>=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
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>> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
>> =3D
>>size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV>&=3D
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>> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Are you saying you can save =
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>>/DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=3D20
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>> that</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =3D
>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
>> size=3D3D3D2>your wrapper or Paris just doesn't =
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>> Try=3D3D20<BR>>>the same=3D20
>> thing</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =3D
>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
>> size=3D3D3D2>in a different project. ie: Same=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>>>plugin=3D20
>> inserted</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =3D
>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
>> size=3D3D3D2>on another stereo pair of tracks. =3D3D<BR>>>Now can =
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>> =3D
>>you=3D3D20<BR>>>save?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV>=3D
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>> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>If so it may be your project. If =3D
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>> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Good=3D20
>> luck,</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =3D
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>> =3D
>>size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20=3D
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>> =3D3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
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>> appears ONLY when I hit SAve=3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
>> ...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom =3D
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>>wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>R=3D
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>>
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>> =3D3D<BR>>>T-racks=3D3D20<BR>>> compressor's stereo =3D
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>> !!<BR>> > Amazing =3D
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry I had a gig last night. Do =
as Erling=20
suggested regarding rendering</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all tracks and copying to a new =
folder. Start=20
a new Paris project and call</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>it something different. Go to =
audio window=20
and import all newly rendered</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>files you need. Set a new record =
path=20
too. Make sure </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>saves work after =
each=20
step. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In original project </FONT><FONT =
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size=3D2>make sure all effects </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>being =
used have been=20
saved individually. In old project</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>copy all mixer settings in Mixer A (You =
discovered=20
this last week!), open new project and paste </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all mixer settings </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>in its Mixer A. Try to save right after this and =
every=20
step. Close Mixer A in new project</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then reopen it. This should make =
all the=20
plugins 'appear'. Just a quirky Paris thing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now get those presets working in each =
plugin. =20
Try a save. If all is well do these same steps</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>across all Submixes until all =
Mixers/plugins are=20
the same as original project. Try a save.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now might be a good time to try your =
stereo plugin=20
that causes your problem in the old</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>project. If after it's installed =
in the new=20
one, you can save then you're almost out of the woods.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you were using automation you will =
need to copy=20
that too. Go to Automation Editor A in old=20
project.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Select Volume, Set Now Line to =
beginning of=20
project. Use 'Select All' command or drag</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>across all 16 tracks with mouse to =
highlight=20
everything. Control C (copy). Go to new =
project,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>put Now Line at beginning of project in =
Automation=20
Editor and make sure active track is the first one that was =
active</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on the old project when copying. =
Otherwise your=20
data may paste a track or two off. The effects</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>return automation has to be done =
separately from=20
tracks. After this, go to original project and select =
Mute.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Copy paste etc.. =
Repeat these=20
steps on all auto editors that were being used.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It sounds harder than it really =
is. Remember=20
to try saving between each step in new project.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If at any time it doesn't want to save, =
you have=20
found out why there is a problem. Possibly</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>an unknown bug. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck. You'll be a better man =
for=20
it!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"erlilo" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43918529@linux">news:43918529@linux</A>...</DIV>Dimitros<BR>=
<BR>My=20
way of doing this is:<BR>Have Paris closed,<BR>make a new folder on =
the audio=20
harddisk with Explorer or something <BR>similar(I'm using=20
TotalCommander).<BR>Copy ONLY waves or/and PAF files from the old =
project into=20
the new folder.<BR>Start a new project in Paris.<BR>Import from the =
new folder=20
all the Waves and PAF files you need into the new <BR>project and set =
the path=20
to the new project.<BR>In Ediit menu, set the files into the subgroups =
and=20
channels you wish.<BR>Now you have a new project without any old, =
saved=20
information at all to <BR>start from scratch.<BR>It's important that =
all files=20
are rendered to start from zero in the old <BR>project.<BR><BR>If this =
doesn't=20
help and the earlier rendered stereofiles have absolutelly <BR>correct =
lenghts, I can't think of other things than plugin =
problems.<BR><BR>Hope this=20
can help to explain my way of doing something with this kind of=20
<BR>problems.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i =
melding <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43917c01$1@linux">news:43917c01$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&g=
t;<BR>>=20
Sory if I ask much but the way I do the project rebuild does not =
help.<BR>>=20
How do you do a rebuild ?<BR>> I just go to audio folder export =
audio=20
objects or wave files under a new<BR>> folder then save the new =
song and=20
then reopen from new folder.<BR>> I guess you might refer to =
something=20
different here right ?<BR>> Can you explain your way ?<BR>>=20
Thanks<BR>> Regards,<BR>> Dimitrios<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Dimitrios, <BR>>>I =
agree with=20
Erlilo. Try different channels or a different<BR>>>submix =
if you=20
can. Otherwise rebuilding the mix from<BR>>>scratch in a =
new=20
project is the next best bet. Copy all<BR>>>mixer settings =
and=20
presets of effects to make it=20
=
easier.<BR>>>Tom<BR>>><BR>>> <BR>>><BR>>>&nb=
sp;=20
"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message=20
=3D<BR>>>news:43908331$1@linux...<BR>>><BR>>> =
Dimitrios,=20
You probably know this, but just to make sure...<BR>>> If =
you want=20
to use stereo native plugins, you can NOT have any mono=20
=3D<BR>>>plugins<BR>>> on those tracks. That goes =
for native=20
and EDS.<BR>>> Do you have any mono eds or native plugs =
also on=20
the stereo pair?<BR>>> Rod<BR>>> "Dimitrios" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>> ><BR>>> >Dear=20
Tom,<BR>>> >It is not the plugin under other song I can =
open a=20
stereo native =3D<BR>>>effect.<BR>>> >In my =
project I=20
cannot open ANY stereo effect.<BR>>> >Even chainer=20
only...<BR>>> >I can save my project no problem if I =
don't use=20
a stereo native =3D<BR>>>effect.<BR>>> >ALSO on =
submix 3 I=20
managed toopen a stereo native effect but not on=20
=3D<BR>>>submix<BR>>> >1 or 4 , any suggestion=20
?<BR>>> >Regards,<BR>>> =20
>Dimitrios<BR>>> ><BR>>> >"Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>> >><BR>>> =
>><BR>>> =20
>>Dimitrios,<BR>>> >>Are you saying you can =
save=20
before this stereo plugin<BR>>> >>is inserted? =
I'd say=20
you may have a rouge plugin that<BR>>> >>your =
wrapper or=20
Paris just doesn't like. Try the same thing<BR>>> =
>>in=20
a different project. ie: Same stereo plugin =
inserted<BR>>> =20
>>on another stereo pair of tracks. Now can you=20
save?<BR>>> >>If so it may be your project. If =
not=20
it's probably your plugin.<BR>>> =
>><BR>>> =20
>>Good luck,<BR>>> >>Tom<BR>>> =20
>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
message=20
=3D3D<BR>>> =
>>news:43906b78$1@linux...<BR>>> =20
>><BR>>> >> Thanks for your=20
suggestions.<BR>>> >> I have rendered using =
the=20
hardware method via adat and achieved =3D<BR>>>one =
=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>>nice<BR>>> >> compact stereo track =
with my=20
acoustic guitars, I even saved all =
=3D<BR>>>audio<BR>>> =20
>=3D3D<BR>>> >>files<BR>>> =
>> on=20
new folder and saved under new name I used the clear missing =20
=3D<BR>>>files<BR>>> >=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>>just<BR>>> >> before that but again no =
luck=20
when I put a stereo native effect on<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >>this =
stereotrack<BR>>> =20
>> even without hitting play when I try to save =
assertion=20
fails and<BR>> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>>doesn't<BR>>> >> allow of any save=20
!<BR>>> >> Note that assertion failure appears =
ONLY=20
when I hit SAve ...<BR>>> >> =20
rEGARDS,<BR>>> >> dIMITRIOS<BR>>> =20
>><BR>>> >> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>> >> ><BR>>> =
>> =20
><BR>>> >> >Dimitrios,<BR>>> =
>> >Rendering is your answer. Don't render tracks =
with=20
plugins. In<BR>> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>>stereo<BR>>> >> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >the right side=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =
>> =20
>won't have any effect. Double check to see that their timing =
is<BR>> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>>correct<BR>>> >> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >too.<BR>>> >> >Some =
people have=20
problems with that.<BR>>> >> =
>Tom<BR>>> =20
>> > "erlilo" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
message=20
=3D3D<BR>>> =
>>news:43900b57$1@linux...<BR>>> =20
>> > There you have the problem. I think =
rendering the=20
tracks and =3D<BR>>>look<BR>>> =
=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >> >after=20
that=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> > each =
stereopair is=20
starting and ending at the same places will<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>do<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>>the<BR>>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =
>> >job=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> =
> when=20
saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if =
=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>>something<BR>>> >> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >are=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> =
> =20
going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in=20
=3D<BR>>>some<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =
>>of=20
=3D3D3D<BR>>> >> =
>the=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =20
>> > stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard =
way, as=20
in version<BR>> =3D<BR>>>2,<BR>>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >> =20
>when=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> > mixing =
down each=20
stereopair with panning hard left and right =3D<BR>>>and=20
=3D3D<BR>>> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =
>> =20
>muting all=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> > =
other=20
tracks. Then you can import them into the project again =
=3D<BR>>>on=20
=3D3D<BR>>> >>their<BR>>> >> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>> >> =
>old=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =20
>> > places and give them new =
names.<BR>>> =20
>> ><BR>>> >> > =20
Erling<BR>>> >> ><BR>>> =
>> =20
><BR>>> >> > "Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i =
melding=20
=3D3D3D<BR>>> >> =20
>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>>> >> =
> =20
><BR>>> >> > > =
Hi,<BR>>> =20
>> > > Thanks for your =
replies.<BR>>> =20
>> > > What I have managed is to have the same =
start=20
and end for =3D<BR>>>both =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>>audio<BR>>> >> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >files<BR>>> >> > =
> just=20
by cutting at cursor pointy on both tracks.<BR>>> =
>> =20
> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of themhas =
different=20
cut<BR>> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>>points<BR>>> >> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >and=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> =
> >=20
joint<BR>>> >> > > points , does =
this=20
matter?<BR>>> >> > > If you ask me =
why it=20
is because these tracks are not actually<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>>stereo<BR>>> =20
>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >> =20
>but<BR>>> >> > > two takes of =
acoustic=20
guitar playing so I had tomove =3D<BR>>>different =
=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>>parts<BR>>> >> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >on=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> =
> >=20
each<BR>>> >> > > of the "stereo" =
tracks=20
to make them on time.<BR>>> >> > > =
I want=20
a stereo effect because I wanna expand the stereo =
=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>>perspective<BR>>> >> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >of=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> =
> >=20
them<BR>>> >> > > pl;aying hard =
left and=20
hard right.<BR>>> >> > > Have you =
tried=20
T-racks compressor's stereo widening knob ?? =
=3D<BR>>>!!<BR>>> =20
>> > > Amazing stereo result with complete =
mono=20
compatibility , not<BR>> =3D<BR>>>like<BR>>> =20
>=3D3D<BR>>> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =
>> =20
>waves=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> > >=20
imager<BR>>> >> > > at=20
all...<BR>>> >> > >=20
Cheers,<BR>>> >> > >=20
DImitrios<BR>>> >> > =
><BR>>> =20
>> > ><BR>>> >> =
> =20
> "Ennio" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>> >> > >>The =
in-points (and=20
out-points) on both sides of the stereo =
=3D<BR>>>file<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>> >>must<BR>>> >> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>> >> >be<BR>>> =
>> =20
> > at<BR>>> >> > =
>>the=20
identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down =
=3D<BR>>>you=20
=3D3D<BR>>> >>can =3D3D3D<BR>>> =
>> =20
>go on<BR>>> >> > >=20
the<BR>>> >> > >>zoom=20
tool)<BR>>> >> > =
>><BR>>> =20
>> > >>"erlilo" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
message=20
=3D3D<BR>>> =
>>news:438f4d36@linux...<BR>>> =20
>> > >>> Is it exactly the same length =
on each=20
stereo files or no =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>>different<BR>>> >> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >holes<BR>>> >> > =20
>>in<BR>>> >> > >>> =
any of the=20
stereo objects?<BR>>> >> > =20
>>><BR>>> >> > >>>=20
Erling<BR>>> >> > =20
>>><BR>>> >> > >>>=20
"Dimitrios" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
skrev i melding=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> > =20
>>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&n=
bsp;=20
>> > >>> ><BR>>> =
>> =20
> >>> > Hi,<BR>>> >> =
> =20
>>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I =
try=20
=3D<BR>>>to =3D3D<BR>>> >>put =
a<BR>>> =20
>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >> =
><BR>>> =20
>> > >>> > stereo<BR>>> =20
>> > >>> > native<BR>>> =20
>> > >>> > effect on any audio track =
on any=20
submix when I try to =3D<BR>>>save I<BR>>> =20
>=3D3D<BR>>> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =
>> =20
>always<BR>>> >> > >=20
get<BR>>> >> > >>> >=20
assertion<BR>>> >> > >>> =
> failed=20
and cannot save either on same name or other...<BR>>> =20
>> > >>> > The problem is that I want =
to use=20
stereo effects as I did<BR>> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>>before<BR>>> >> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >but<BR>>> >> > =20
>>don't<BR>>> >> > >>> =
>=20
know why Paris doesn't let to...<BR>>> >> =
> =20
>>> > Regards,<BR>>> >> > =
>>> > Dimitrios<BR>>> >> =
> =20
>>><BR>>> >> > =20
>>><BR>>> >> > =20
>><BR>>> >> > =20
>><BR>>> >> > =20
>=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> ><BR>>> =20
>> ><BR>>> >> =
><BR>>> =20
>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
Transitional//EN"><BR>>> >> =20
><HTML><HEAD><BR>>> >> =
><META=20
http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=20
=3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >> =20
>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>>> >> =20
><META content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400"=20
name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>>> >> =20
><STYLE></STYLE><BR>>> >> =20
></HEAD><BR>>> >> ><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>> >> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT>< ;/DIV> <BR>>> =20
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Rendering is your =3D<BR>>>answer. =
Don't<BR>>> =20
>=3D3D<BR>>> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =
>> =20
>render tracks=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> >with =
plugins. In=20
stereo the right side </FONT></DIV><BR>>> =20
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>won't=20
</FONT><FONT =3D3D<BR>>> =
>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
=3D3D3D<BR>>> >> >size=3D3D3D3D2>have=20
any=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> >effect. Double check =
to see=20
that their timing is correct =3D3D3D<BR>>> >> =20
>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>>> >> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Some =
people have=20
=3D<BR>>>problems with<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =
>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >> =20
>that.</FONT></DIV><BR>>> >> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&a mp;gt; <BR>>> =
>> =20
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> =20
>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT:<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>5px;<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >> >BORDER-LEFT: =
#000000 2px=20
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>>> >> =
> =20
<DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D3D3D<BR>>> >> =
>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D20'>mailto:e=
rlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D20</A><BR>>&g=
t; =20
>> > wrote in message =
<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =20
>> > =3D3D<BR>>> =20
=3D<BR>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th'>news=
:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th</A=
>=3D<BR>>>ere<BR>>> =20
>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >> >you=20
have=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> > the problem. =
I think=20
rendering the tracks and look after that =
=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>><BR>each<BR>>> >> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>> >> ><BR>>> =
>> =20
> stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will =
do=20
=3D<BR>>>the =3D3D<BR>>> >>job =
=3D3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> ><BR>when=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =
>> =20
> saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if=20
=3D<BR>>>something =3D3D<BR>>> >>are=20
=3D3D3D<BR>>> >> =20
><BR>going=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> =
> wrong=20
again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>>the=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =20
>> > <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the =
old,=20
hard way, as in =3D<BR>>>version<BR>>> =20
>=3D3D<BR>>> >>2,<BR>>> =
>> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>> >> =
>when=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =20
>> > <BR>mixing down each stereopair with =
panning=20
hard left and =3D<BR>>>right =3D3D<BR>>> >>and =
=3D3D3D<BR>>> >> =
>muting=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =20
>> > all <BR>other tracks. Then you can =
import them=20
into the project<BR>> =3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>>again<BR>>> >> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >on their=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> =
> =20
old <BR>places and give them new =3D3D3D<BR>>> =
>> =20
=
>names.<BR><BR>Erling& ;lt;BR><BR><BR> "Dimitr=
ios"=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =20
>> > <<A =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
=3D3D<BR>>> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =
>> >skrev=20
i=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> > melding=20
<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>> >> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
=3D<BR>>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D "<A=20
=
href=3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><B'>news:=
439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><=
B</A>=3D<BR>>>R>&g=3D3D<BR >>> =20
>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >> =
>t;=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =20
>> > Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your=20
replies.<BR>> What I have managed is =3D<BR>>>to=20
=3D3D<BR>>> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =
>> =20
>have=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> > the same =
start and=20
end for both audio files<BR>> just by =3D<BR>>>cutting=20
at<BR>>> >=3D3D<BR>>> =
>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =20
>> >cursor=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >> =
> =20
pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks=20
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size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></ DIV> <BR>>> =20
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Are you =
saying you=20
can save =3D<BR>>>before this<BR>>> =
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inserted</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =20
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>on =
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assertion=20
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>> =20
...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS& ;lt;BR><BR> "Tom =
Bruhl"=20
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tracks with=20
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side=3D3D3D20<BR>>won't=20
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20<BR>>> =20
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>>message=20
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audio<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>file s<BR>> > just by =
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=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
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you ask=20
me why =3D3D<BR>>> >>it is=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
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them on=20
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I wanna=20
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=3D3D<BR>>> =20
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lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I agree with Erlilo. Try =
=3D<BR>>>different=20
channels=3D20<BR>>>or a=20
different</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>submix if you can. Otherwise =3D<BR>>>rebuilding=20
the=3D20<BR>>>mix=20
from</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>scratch in a new project is the next=20
=3D<BR>>>best=3D20<BR>>>bet. Copy=20
all</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
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make=20
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face=3D3DArial=20
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A>&g</A>=3D<BR>>>t;=3D20<BR >>> =20
wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>>> =
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
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You probably know this, but just to make sure...<BR>If you want =
to=20
use<BR>> =3D<BR>>>stereo=3D20<BR>>> native =
plugins, you can=20
NOT have any mono plugins<BR>on those tracks.<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>That=3D20<BR>>> goes for native and =
EDS.<BR>Do=20
you have any mono eds or native plugs =3D<BR>>>also=20
on=3D20<BR>>> the stereo =
pair?<BR>Rod<BR>"Dimitrios"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
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usurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=3D20</A><BR>>&g=
t; =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>De ar Tom,<BR>>It is not the =
plugin=20
under =3D<BR>>>other song I=3D20<BR>>> can open a =
stereo native=20
effect.<BR>>In my project I cannot open =3D<BR>>>ANY=20
stereo=3D20<BR>>> effect.<BR>>Even chainer=20
only...<BR>>I can save my project no =3D<BR>>>problem=20
if=3D20<BR>>> I don't use a stereo native =
effect.<BR>>ALSO=20
on submix 3 I managed =3D<BR>>>toopen a=3D20<BR>>> =
stereo native=20
effect but not on submix<BR>>1 or 4 , any=20
suggestion=3D20<BR>>> =20
=
?<BR>>Regards,<BR>> ;Dimitrios<BR>><BR>&g t=
;"Tom=20
Bruhl" <<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
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wrote:<BR>>><BR>&a mp;gt;><BR>>>Dimitrios,&a mp;lt=
;BR>>>Are=20
=3D<BR>>>you saying=3D20<BR>>> you can save before =
this stereo=20
plugin<BR>>>is inserted? =3D<BR>>>I'd =
say=3D20<BR>>> =20
you may have a rouge plugin that<BR>>>your wrapper or =
Paris just=20
=3D<BR>>>doesn't=3D20<BR>>> like. Try the same=20
thing<BR>>>in a different =3D<BR>>>project.=20
ie:=3D20<BR>>> Same stereo plugin =
inserted<BR>>>on=20
another stereo pair of =3D<BR>>>tracks. =3D20<BR>>> =
Now can you=20
save?<BR>>>If so it may be your project. If =
=3D<BR>>>not=20
it's=3D20<BR>>> probably your=20
plugin.<BR>>><BR>& amp;gt;>Good=3D20 <BR>>> =
luck,<BR>>>Tom<BR> >> "Dimitrios"=20
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href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
wrote in =3D<BR>>>message=3D20<BR>>> =20
=
=3D3D<BR>>>news:43906b78$1@linux...<BR>>><BR&g=
t;>>=20
=3D<BR>>>Thanks for=3D20<BR>>> your=20
suggestions.<BR>>> I have rendered using the hardware=20
=3D<BR>>>method=3D20<BR>>> via adat and achieved one =
=3D3D<BR>>>nice<BR> ;>> =3D<BR>>>compact=20
stereo=3D20<BR>>> track with my acoustic guitars, I even =
saved=20
all=3D20<BR>>> =20
audio<BR>>=3D3D<BR>&g t;>files<BR>>> on =
new folder=20
and =3D<BR>>>saved=3D20<BR>>> under new name I used =
the clear=20
missing =3D20<BR>>> =20
files<BR>>=3D3D<BR>&g t;>just<BR>>> =
before that but=20
=3D<BR>>>again no luck=3D20<BR>>> when I put a =
stereo native=20
effect on =3D3D<BR>>>this=3D20<BR>>> =20
stereotrack<BR>>> even without hitting play when I=20
=3D<BR>>>try to=3D20<BR>>> save assertion fails and=20
=3D3D<BR>>>doesn't<BR& ;gt;>> =3D<BR>>>allow =
of=20
any=3D20<BR>>> save !<BR>>> Note that =
assertion failure=20
appears ONLY when =3D<BR>>>I hit=3D20<BR>>> SAve=20
...<BR>>> rEGARDS,<BR>>> =
=3D20<BR>>> =20
dIMITRIOS<BR>>><BR> ;>> "Tom Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t;> =20
wrote:<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> =
=3D<BR>>><BR>>> >Dimitrios,<BR>>> =
>Rendering=20
is your answer. =3D<BR>>>Don't=3D20<BR>>> render =
tracks with=20
plugins. In =
=3D<BR> >>=3D3D<BR>>>stere o<BR>>>=20
=3D20<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >the right=20
side=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D<BR>>>>won't =
have=3D20<BR>>> =20
any effect. Double check to see that their timing =
is=3D20<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>>correct<BR& ;gt;>> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>>=20
=3D20<BR>>> >too.<BR>>> >Some people =
have problems=20
with=3D20<BR>>> that.<BR>>> =
>Tom<BR>>>=20
> "erlilo" =3D<BR>>><<A=3D20<BR>>> =
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=20
wrote in =3D<BR>>>message=3D20<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>>news:43900b57$1@linux...<BR>>> > =
=3D<BR>>>There you=3D20<BR>>> have the problem. I =
think=20
rendering the tracks and=3D20<BR>>> =20
look<BR>=3D3D<BR>>> ;=3D3D3D<BR>>>=20
>after=3D20<BR>>> that=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =
each=20
stereopair is starting =3D<BR>>>and =
ending=3D20<BR>>> at the=20
same places will =
do<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>t he<BR>>>=20
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>job=3D3D3D20<BR>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>>when saving=3D20<BR>>> under a new =
name, just to=20
be sure to go back if=3D20<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>>something<BR&a mp;gt;>> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>>=20
=3D20<BR>>> >are=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > going =
wrong again.=20
If the =3D<BR>>>time=3D20<BR>>> alignments are going =
wrong in=20
some<BR>=3D3D<BR>>> ;of =
=3D<BR> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>>=20
=3D20<BR>>> >the=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =
stereofiles, you=20
can =3D<BR>>>rendering the=3D20<BR>>> old, hard way, =
as in=20
version=20
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t;>=20
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mixing down each=20
=3D<BR>>>stereopair with=3D20<BR>>> panning hard =
left and right=20
and =3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR& ;gt;>>=20
=3D<BR>>>>muting=3D20<BR>>> =
all=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >=20
other tracks. Then you can =3D<BR>>>import =
them=3D20<BR>>> into=20
the project again on =3D3D<BR>>>their<BR&g t;>>=20
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>old=3D3D3D20<BR>>>=20
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names.<BR>>> ><BR>>> =3D<BR>>>>=20
=3D20<BR>>> Erling<BR>>> =
><BR>>>=20
><BR>>> =3D<BR>>><BR>>> > =
"Dimitrios"=20
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href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
skrev i =3D<BR>>>melding=3D20<BR>>> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>>=20
>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>>> =
=3D<BR>>><BR>>> =20
> ><BR>>> > > =
=3D<BR>>>Hi,<BR>>>=20
=3D20<BR>>> > > Thanks for your =
replies.<BR>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>>>=3D20<BR>>> What I have managed is =
to have the=20
same start and end for both=3D20<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>>audio<BR&g t;>> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>>=20
=3D20<BR>>> >files<BR>>> > > just by =
cutting at=20
cursor =3D<BR>>>pointy=3D20<BR>>> on both=20
tracks.<BR>>> > > Buit insight the=20
=3D<BR>>>stereo=3D20<BR>>> tracks each of themhas =
different cut=20
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>and=3D3D3D20<BR>>>=20
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joint<BR>>> > >=20
points , does this=3D20<BR>>> matter?<BR>>> =
> > If=20
you ask me why it is =3D<BR>>>because=3D20<BR>>> =
these tracks=20
are not actually =3D3D<BR>>>stereo<BR& gt;>>=20
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>but<BR>>> >=20
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guitar playing so=20
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each<BR>>> =3D<BR>>><BR>>> > > of =
the=20
"stereo" tracks to make them on =3D<BR>>>time.<BR>>> =
=3D20<BR>>> > > I want a stereo effect because I =
wanna expand=20
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=3D3D<BR>>>perspective<BR >>> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>>=20
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pl;aying hard=20
left and hard right.<BR>>> =3D20<BR>>> > =
> Have=20
you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening =3D<BR>>>knob=20
??=3D20<BR>>> !!<BR>>> > > Amazing =
stereo result=20
with =3D<BR>>>complete mono=3D20<BR>>> compatibility =
, not=20
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> >=20
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> at=20
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Cheers,<BR>>> > > DImitrios<BR>>>=20
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><BR>>>=20
=3D<BR>>>> =3D20<BR>>> > "Ennio"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:e=
nnio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>>&g=
t; =20
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=3D<BR>>>out-points) on=3D20<BR>>> both sides of the =
stereo=20
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>be<BR>>> > >=3D20<BR>>> =
at<BR>>>=20
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=3D20<BR>>> > >>"erlilo" =
<<A=3D20<BR>>> =20
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=20
wrote in =3D<BR>>>message=3D20<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>>news:438f4d36@linux...<BR>>> >=20
=3D<BR>>>>>>=3D20<BR>>> Is it exactly the =
same length=20
on each stereo files or no=3D20<BR>>> =20
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=3D3D3D<BR>>>=20
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=3D20<BR>>> =20
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=3D20<BR>>> =20
>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D"<A =
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
skrev i=3D20<BR>>> melding=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =
>>> <A=3D20<BR>>> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
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>>>=20
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project=20
mixing and when I try to =3D3D<BR>>>put=20
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=3D3D3D<BR>>>=20
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>=20
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=3D20<BR>>> =20
> >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix=20
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=3D20<BR>>> >always<BR>>> > >=20
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>>>=20
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=3D<BR>>>>=3D20<BR>>> failed and cannot save =
either on same=20
name or =3D<BR>>>other...<BR>>> =
=3D20<BR>>> >=20
>>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo=20
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=3D20<BR>>> > >>> > know why Paris doesn't=20
let=3D20<BR>>> to...<BR>>> > >>>=20
>=3D20<BR>>> Regards,<BR>>> > =
>>>=20
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=3D20<BR>>> =20
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replies.<BR>> What=20
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=3D20<BR>>> >=20
pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the =
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different cut=20
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joint<BR>> points , does =
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=3D20<BR>>> > matter?<BR>> If you ask me why =
it is=20
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stereo=20
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acoustic=20
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=3D20<BR>>> =20
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each<BR>> of the=20
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them=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >=20
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stereo=3D20<BR>>> =20
effect because I wanna expand the =3D3D3D<BR>>>=20
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perspective of=20
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them<BR>> pl;aying=20
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=3D20<BR>>> =20
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=3D3D3D<BR>>>=20
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=3D3D3D<BR>>>=20
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------=_NextPart_000_00FC_01C5F7F9.C7262390--Kim, that sounds great. With all your new opportunities and pursuits,
thanks again for taking the time and effort to keep the news group going!
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
Kim wrote:
> I've been in the new place over a month now, and it does take some time before
> moves settle in, but let me put a couple of things in perspective...
>
> For all you non-Melnbournites... which is the vast majority of you, I used
> to live in Glen Waverley. Glen Waverley is, according to my "Melways" directory,
> about 20km from the city centre of Melbourne Australia. Honestly I thought
> it was further than that before I went for the actual number from the book.
> Suffice to say I was a fair way out...
>
> As I look at the book now and see the numbers, I'm currently, in my new place,
> and the new NG home (with the server now in, oddly enough, my kitchen ;o),
> just inside the 5km circle. What's more, I'm north of the city, and the greater
> percentage of the band scene is north of the city here in Melbourne. Not
> all that much happens in the CBD itself. In Melbourne things are centred
> around the inner suburbs, which is where I haven't been, but now am... ;o)
>
> Tonight I caught a bus a fraction west, to one of the many epecentres of
> Melbounre music, Brunswick, and saw a guy from work play his first ever
> original gig at the Brunswick Hotel. It cost me $3.10, maybe $2 U.S. return.
> At my last place a taxi home only would be probably $60aus from this venue.
> I've already caught the local tram twice to various events. The tram heads
> south to the city. Tonight was the first time I caught the west bound bus.
> South and west are pretty much the only directions I need to go ;o). East
> are cover bands ;oP. North are people who don't care about music. ;o) The
> furthest music venues from me now are in St Kilda, which is south of the
> city, and on the bay/beach, but still in the 5km radius. A taxi from there
> would still be far cheaper than it was to my last place, and most of the
> time I would be able to catch a tram or two or something...
>
> It is, as they say, all good. ;o)
>
> The only bad thing I have noted, apart from my studio not having space for
> an actual band anymore, is that the power here seems to be 5 volts higher
> and hence my UPS for the NG server keeps clicking and complaining, and the
> server has actually hung twice (shhhh... don't tell anyone, nobody has noticed...
> ;o) but the good news is my brother has found the software for the UPS (yes
> Rick he's done something good! ;o) and I may be able to correct the issues
> without undue expense...
>
> My point is, though, that I've moved from a boring outer suburb into a fantastic
> inner suburb, and it ROCKS!! I haven't even told you about the great Indian
> and Tibetan food I've discovered!!!
>
> Honestly, I'm lovin it.
>
> I was just realising earlier...
>
> Over the last ten to fifteen years, I've changed from some dude who liked
> the typical local beer and commerial music, to someone who has taste in food,
> music, beer, whatever. At no particular point I made a choice, and this new
> home is, largely, the culmination of that journey.
>
> It's great to be able to choose what to play, what not to play, what to watch,
> etc, without having to answer to anyone.
>
> Tomorrow I'm going down to the RRR BBQ. RRR being one of the local community
> subscriber radio stations to which I subscribe (and love). I can catch the
> bus for $3.10 again. At my last place I would have stayed at home and heard
> it over the radio... now will be there in person.
>
> I so much feel like I'm in the middle. In fact, I finally am.
>
> And, sorry Martin ;o), but Melbourne really is the cultural centre of Australia.
> ;o) It's so good to be in close to the place where everything's happening.
>
> This has been a long long post... ;o)
>
> But gee, I'm so happy with my decision.
>
> Now I just need to buy a place in here. ;o)
>
> There's still some tweakin to do to get the NG running perfectly in the new
> place. It's getting there though. It's only hung twice. ;o) If we go offline
> you know why. ;o)
>
> I'll buy a new UPS if I need to. It's all worth it.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.I have lived in suburbs of large metro areas and had to spend quite a bit of
effort to get to the places in town where the things that I enjoyed were
happening. Glad you're enjoying your new digs, have easier access to your
intersts and there is a variety of cuisine so that you no longer having to
survive on goana baked on a hot rock and similar such bush tucker.
;o)
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4391a6b8$1@linux...
>
>
> I've been in the new place over a month now, and it does take some time
before
> moves settle in, but let me put a couple of things in perspective...
>
> For all you non-Melnbournites... which is the vast majority of you, I
used
> to live in Glen Waverley. Glen Waverley is, according to my "Melways"
directory,
> about 20km from the city centre of Melbourne Australia. Honestly I thought
> it was further than that before I went for the actual number from the
book.
> Suffice to say I was a fair way out...
>
> As I look at the book now and see the numbers, I'm currently, in my new
place,
> and the new NG home (with the server now in, oddly enough, my kitchen ;o),
> just inside the 5km circle. What's more, I'm north of the city, and the
greater
> percentage of the band scene is north of the city here in Melbourne. Not
> all that much happens in the CBD itself. In Melbourne things are centred
> around the inner suburbs, which is where I haven't been, but now am... ;o)
>
> Tonight I caught a bus a fraction west, to one of the many epecentres of
> Melbounre music, Brunswick, and saw a guy from work play his first ever
> original gig at the Brunswick Hotel. It cost me $3.10, maybe $2 U.S.
return.
> At my last place a taxi home only would be probably $60aus from this
venue.
> I've already caught the local tram twice to various events. The tram heads
> south to the city. Tonight was the first time I caught the west bound bus.
> South and west are pretty much the only directions I need to go ;o). East
> are cover bands ;oP. North are people who don't care about music. ;o) The
> furthest music venues from me now are in St Kilda, which is south of the
> city, and on the bay/beach, but still in the 5km radius. A taxi from there
> would still be far cheaper than it was to my last place, and most of the
> time I would be able to catch a tram or two or something...
>
> It is, as they say, all good. ;o)
>
> The only bad thing I have noted, apart from my studio not having space for
> an actual band anymore, is that the power here seems to be 5 volts higher
> and hence my UPS for the NG server keeps clicking and complaining, and the
> server has actually hung twice (shhhh... don't tell anyone, nobody has
noticed...
> ;o) but the good news is my brother has found the software for the UPS
(yes
> Rick he's done something good! ;o) and I may be able to correct the issues
> without undue expense...
>
> My point is, though, that I've moved from a boring outer suburb into a
fantastic
> inner suburb, and it ROCKS!! I haven't even told you about the great
Indian
> and Tibetan food I've discovered!!!
>
> Honestly, I'm lovin it.
>
> I was just realising earlier...
>
> Over the last ten to fifteen years, I've changed from some dude who liked
> the typical local beer and commerial music, to someone who has taste in
food,
> music, beer, whatever. At no particular point I made a choice, and this
new
> home is, largely, the culmination of that journey.
>
> It's great to be able to choose what to play, what not to play, what to
watch,
> etc, without having to answer to anyone.
>
> Tomorrow I'm going down to the RRR BBQ. RRR being one of the local
community
> subscriber radio stations to which I subscribe (and love). I can catch the
> bus for $3.10 again. At my last place I would have stayed at home and
heard
> it over the radio... now will be there in person.
>
> I so much feel like I'm in the middle. In fact, I finally am.
>
> And, sorry Martin ;o), but Melbourne really is the cultural centre of
Australia.
> ;o) It's so good to be in close to the place where everything's happening.
>
> This has been a long long post... ;o)
>
> But gee, I'm so happy with my decision.
>
> Now I just need to buy a place in here. ;o)
>
> There's still some tweakin to do to get the NG running perfectly in the
new
> place. It's getting there though. It's only hung twice. ;o) If we go
offline
> you know why. ;o)
>
> I'll buy a new UPS if I need to. It's all worth it.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.Kim, what's the software t
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| Re: Bizzare_assertion_fail_problem_any_insight? [message #60893 is a reply to message #60889] |
Sat, 03 December 2005 11:48 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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> >> >> >Some people have problems with that.
> >> >> >Tom
> >> >> > "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =3D3D
> >> >>news:43900b57$1@linux...
> >> >> > There you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks =
>and =3D
> >>look
> >> =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >after that=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > each stereopair is starting and ending at the same places =
>will
> > =3D
> >>do
> >> =3D3D
> >> >>the
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >job=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > when saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if
=
>=3D3D
> >> >>something
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >are=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong =
>in =3D
> >>some
> >> =3D3D
> >> >>of =3D3D3D
> >> >> >the=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in =
>version
> > =3D
> >>2,
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >when=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and =
>right =3D
> >>and =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >muting all=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > other tracks. Then you can import them into the project =
>again =3D
> >>on =3D3D
> >> >>their
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >old=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > places and give them new names.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Erling
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding =3D3D3D
> >> >> >news:439000f1$1@linux...
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Hi,
> >> >> > > Thanks for your replies.
> >> >> > > What I have managed is to have the same start and end for
=
>=3D
> >>both =3D3D
> >> >>audio
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >files
> >> >> > > just by cutting at cursor pointy on both tracks.
> >> >> > > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of themhas different
=
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> > =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>points
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >and=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > > joint
> >> >> > > points , does this matter?
> >> >> > > If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not =
>actually
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>stereo
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >but
> >> >> > > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove =3D
> >>different =3D3D
> >> >>parts
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >on=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > > each
> >> >> > > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on time.
> >> >> > > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the stereo
=
>=3D3D
> >> >>perspective
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >of=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > > them
> >> >> > > pl;aying hard left and hard right.
> >> >> > > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening knob
=
>?? =3D
> >>!!
> >> >> > > Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility ,
=
>not
> > =3D
> >>like
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >waves=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > > imager
> >> >> > > at all...
> >> >> > > Cheers,
> >> >> > > DImitrios
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "Ennio" <ennio@galicorp.net> wrote:
> >> >> > >>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the =
>stereo =3D
> >>file
> >> =3D3D
> >> >>must
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >be
> >> >> > > at
> >> >> > >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest =
>down =3D
> >>you =3D3D
> >> >>can =3D3D3D
> >> >> >go on
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > >>zoom tool)
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =3D3D
> >> >>news:438f4d36@linux...
> >> >> > >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or =
>no =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>different
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >holes
> >> >> > >>in
> >> >> > >>> any of the stereo objects?
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Erling
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i =
>melding=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > >>> news:438f3760$1@linux...
> >> >> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>> > Hi,
> >> >> > >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I =
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> >>to =3D3D
> >> >>put a
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >>> > stereo
> >> >> > >>> > native
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=
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> >>save I
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >always
> >> >> > > get
> >> >> > >>> > assertion
> >> >> > >>> > failed and cannot save either on same name or =
>other...
> >> >> > >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as I
=
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> >>=3D3D
> >> >>before
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >but
> >> >> > >>don't
> >> >> > >>> > know why Paris doesn't let to...
> >> >> > >>> > Regards,
> >> >> > >>> > Dimitrios
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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> >> >> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff>
> >> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
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> >> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> >> >> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D3D20
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> >>to =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >have=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by =
>=3D
> >>cutting at
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >cursor=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks
=
>each
> > =3D
> >>of
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >themhas=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > different cut points and <BR>> joint<BR>> points , does =3D
> >>this=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these tracks =
>are =3D
> >>not
> >> =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >actually=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > stereo but<BR>> two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I =
>had =3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >tomove=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > different parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks =
>to =3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >make them=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > on time.<BR>> I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand
=
>the
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >stereo=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > perspective of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and =3D
> >>hard=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo =
>widening
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >knob ??=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono =
>compatibility
> > =3D
> >>, =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >not like=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at all...<BR>> =
>Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio" <<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D3D=
>20
> >> >> > wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of
=
>the
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >stereo=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the
=
>=3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >sample=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > (the furthest down you can go on<BR>> =
>the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" <<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =
>href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> =3D
> >>wrote in
> >> =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >message <A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =3D3D3D
> >> >> =3D
> =
>>>>href=3D3D3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>>>>
=
>=3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >Is it=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > exactly the same length on each stereo files or no =3D
> >>different=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the stereo=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =
>href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>
> > =3D
> >>skrev
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>i =3D3D3D
> >> >> >melding=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > <BR>>>> <A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =3D3D3D
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR=
>>>>&=3D
> >>g=3D3D3D=3D3D
> >> >>
> >> >> >t;=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D3D3D
> >> >> >finished my=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > project mixing and when I try to put a <BR>>>> >=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > effect on any =3D3D3D
> >> >> >audio=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > track on any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >get<BR>>>>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > > assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on =
>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >same name=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > or other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use =
>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >stereo=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > effects as I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know =
>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >why=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > Paris doesn't let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =3D3D3D
> >> >> >Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> >> >><HTML><HEAD>
> >> >><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
>=3D3D
> >> >>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> >> >><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> >> >><STYLE></STYLE>
> >> >></HEAD>
> >> >><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Are you saying you can
=
>save =3D
> >>before this
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>stereo=3D3D20
> >> >>plugin</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>is inserted? I'd say =
>you may =3D
> >>have =3D3D
> >> >>a rouge=3D3D20
> >> >>plugin that</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>your wrapper or Paris =
>just =3D
> >>doesn't =3D3D
> >> >>like. Try=3D3D20
> >> >>the same thing</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>in a different project.
=
>ie: =3D
> >>Same =3D3D
> >> >>stereo=3D3D20
> >> >>plugin inserted</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>on another stereo pair
=
>of =3D
> >>tracks. =3D3D
> >> >>Now can you=3D3D20
> >> >>save?</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>If so it may be your =
>project. =3D
> >>If =3D3D
> >> >>not it's=3D3D20
> >> >>probably your plugin.</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> >> >>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:
=
>5px;
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >> >> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20
> >> >> href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>
=
>wrote
> > =3D
> >>in =3D3D
> >> >>message=3D3D20
> >> >> <A =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D"news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
><BR>=3D
> >>Than=3D3D
> >> >>ks=3D3D20
> >> >> for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware =
>method
> > =3D
> >>via
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>adat=3D3D20
> >> >> and achieved one nice<BR>compact stereo track with my acoustic
=
>=3D3D
> >> >>guitars, I even=3D3D20
> >> >> saved all audio files<BR>on new folder and saved under new =
>name I
> > =3D
> >>used
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>the=3D3D20
> >> >> clear missing files just<BR>before that but again no luck when
=
>I =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>put a=3D3D20
> >> >> stereo native effect on this stereotrack<BR>even without =
>hitting =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>play =3D3D20
> >> >> when I try to save assertion fails and doesn't<BR>allow of any
=
>=3D
> >>save =3D3D
> >> >>!<BR>Note=3D3D20
> >> >> that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve=3D3D20
> >> >> ...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20=
>
> >> >> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>Rendering is your=3D3D20
> >> >> answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In=3D3D20
> >> >> stereo<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the right side=3D3D3D20<BR>>won't have =
>any =3D3D
> >> >>effect. =3D3D20
> >> >> Double check to see that their timing is =3D3D
> >> >>correct<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>too.<BR>>Some=3D3D20
> >> >> people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>> "erlilo" =3D3D
> >> >><<A=3D3D20
> >> >> href=3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> =
>wrote in
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>message <A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =
>>>href=3D3D3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>=3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >> There=3D3D20
> >> >> you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =
>=3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>after=3D3D20
> >> >> that=3D3D3D20<BR>> each stereopair is starting and ending at =
>the =3D3D
> >> >>same=3D3D20
> >> >> places will do the<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>job=3D3D3D20<BR>> when =
>saving =3D3D
> >> >>under a new=3D3D20
> >> >> name, just to be sure to go back if =3D3D
> >> >>something<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in =
>some
> > =3D
> >>of=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D3D20<BR>> stereofiles, you can rendering =
>the =3D3D
> >> >>old, hard=3D3D20
> >> >> way, as in version 2, =3D3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D3D20<BR>> mixing =
>down =3D3D
> >> >>each=3D3D20
> >> >> stereopair with panning hard left and right and =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>muting=3D3D20
> >> >> all=3D3D3D20<BR>> other tracks. Then you can import them into
=
>the =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>project=3D3D20
> >> >> again on their<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>old=3D3D3D20<BR>> places and =
>give =3D3D
> >> >>them new=3D3D20
> >> >> names.<BR>><BR>> Erling<BR>><BR>><BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>"Dimitrios"=3D3D20
> >> >> <<A =
>href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>skrev i=3D3D20
> >> >> melding =3D3D3D<BR>>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>><BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> > Hi,<BR>> > Thanks for your replies.<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>> What I=3D3D20
> >> >> have managed is to have the same start and end for both=3D3D20
> >> >> audio<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>files<BR>> > just by cutting at cursor =
>=3D3D
> >> >>pointy on=3D3D20
> >> >> both tracks.<BR>> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =
>=3D3D
> >> >>themhas=3D3D20
> >> >> different cut points<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D
> >> >>joint<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> > points , does this matter?<BR>> > If you ask me why =3D3D
> >> >>it is=3D3D20
> >> >> because these tracks are not actually =3D3D
> >> >>stereo<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>but<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove =3D
> >>different=3D3D20
> >> >> parts<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>on=3D3D3D20<BR>> > each<BR>> > =3D3D
> >> >>of the=3D3D20
> >> >> "stereo" tracks to make them on time.<BR>> > I want a =3D3D
> >> >>stereo=3D3D20
> >> >> effect because I wanna expand the stereo=3D3D20
> >> >> perspective<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>of=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D
> >> >>them<BR>> >=3D3D20
> >> >> pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>> > Have you tried =3D3D
> >> >>T-racks=3D3D20
> >> >> compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!<BR>> > Amazing =3D3D
> >> >>stereo=3D3D20
> >> >> result with complete mono compatibility , not like=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>waves=3D3D3D20<BR>> > imager<BR>> > at=3D3D20
> >> >> all...<BR>> > Cheers,<BR>> > =3D3D
> >> >>DImitrios<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> ><BR>> ><BR>> > "Ennio" <<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =
>href=3D3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20
> >> >> wrote:<BR>> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both =3D3D
> >> >>sides of=3D3D20
> >> >> the stereo file must<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>be<BR>> > =3D3D
> >> >>at<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down =
>you =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>can=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>go on<BR>> > the<BR>> >>zoom=3D3D20
> >> >> tool)<BR>> >><BR>> >>"erlilo" <<A=3D3D20
> >> >> href=3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> =
>wrote in
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>message <A=3D3D20
> >> >> =
>href=3D3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>> =3D
> >>=3D3D20
> >> >> >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or =
>no=3D3D20
> >> >> different<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>holes<BR>> >>in<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> >>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> >>><BR>> >>> Erling<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> >>><BR>> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20
> >> >> href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>
=
>skrev
> > =3D
> >>i=3D3D20
> >> >> melding=3D3D3D20<BR>> >>> <A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =
>>>href=3D3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>=3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D20
> >> >> >>> ><BR>> >>> > Hi,<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I =
>=3D3D
> >> >>try to=3D3D20
> >> >> put a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> >>> > =3D3D
> >> >>stereo<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> >>> > native<BR>> >>> > effect on any =3D3D
> >> >>audio=3D3D20
> >> >> track on any submix when I try to save I =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>always<BR>> >=3D3D20
> >> >> get<BR>> >>> > assertion<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>>>> >=3D3D20
> >> >> failed and cannot save either on same name or other...<BR>> =
>=3D3D20
> >> >> >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as =
>=3D3D
> >> >>I did=3D3D20
> >> >> before<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>but<BR>> >>don't<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>>>>=3D3D20
> >> >> > know why Paris doesn't let to...<BR>> >>> >=3D3D20
> >> >> Regards,<BR>> >>> > Dimitrios<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>>><BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> >><BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>>=3D3D3D20<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=3D3D20
> >> >> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D3D20
> >> >> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D3D20
> >> >> http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
>content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D3D
> >> >>content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20
> >> >> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> >>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D3D
> >> >>D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20
> >> >> bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> >>size=3D3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=3D3D
> >> >>ONT=3D3D20
> >> >> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Rendering is your answer. =
>Don't =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>render=3D3D20
> >> >> tracks=3D3D3D20<BR>>with plugins. In stereo the right =
>side=3D3D20
> >> >> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >> >> size=3D3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>have=3D3D20
> >> >> any=3D3D3D20<BR>>effect. Double check to see that their timing
=
>is =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>correct=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >> >>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >> >> size=3D3D3D3D2>Some people have problems with=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>that.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> >> >> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =
>>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D3D20 <BR>=3D3D
> >> >>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D3D20
> >> >> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>#000000 2px=3D3D20
> >> >> solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"erlilo" =3D3D
> >> >><<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D20'>=
>mailto=3D
> >>:erlil=3D3D
> >> >>o@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D20</A><BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> wrote in message <A=3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>Ther=3D
> >>e'>n=3D3D
> >> >>ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=3D3D
> >> >>ere</A><BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you=3D3D20
> >> >> have=3D3D3D20<BR>> the problem. I think rendering the tracks =
>and =3D3D
> >> >>look after=3D3D20
> >> >> that <BR>each<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> stereopair is =3D3D
> >> >>starting and=3D3D20
> >> >> ending at the same places will do the job=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>><BR>when=3D3D3D20<BR>> saving under a new name, =
>=3D3D
> >> >>just to be=3D3D20
> >> >> sure to go back if something are =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>going=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some =
>=3D
> >>of=3D3D20
> >> >> the=3D3D3D20<BR>> <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the =3D3D
> >> >>old, hard=3D3D20
> >> >> way, as in version 2,<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >><BR>mixing down=3D3D20
> >> >> each stereopair with panning hard left and right and=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>muting=3D3D3D20<BR>> all <BR>other tracks. Then =
>=3D3D
> >> >>you can=3D3D20
> >> >> import them into the project again<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>on =3D3D
> >> >>their=3D3D3D20<BR>> old=3D3D20
> >> >> <BR>places and give them new=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>=3D3D
> >> >>"Dimitrios"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> <<A href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:=
>musu=3D
> >>rgio=3D3D
> >> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>skrev i=3D3D3D20<BR>> melding <A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
>=3D3D
> >> >>
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><=
>BR>&=3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=3D3D
> >> >>><BR>&g</A>=3D3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have =3D3D
> >> >>managed=3D3D20
> >> >> is to =3D3D3D<BR>>have=3D3D3D20<BR>> the same start and end =
>for =3D3D
> >> >>both audio=3D3D20
> >> >> files<BR>> just by cutting at =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>cursor=3D3D3D20<BR>> pointy=3D3D20
> >> >> on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each =
>of=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>themhas=3D3D3D20<BR>> different cut points and =
>=3D3D
> >> >><BR>>=3D3D20
> >> >> joint<BR>> points , does this=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>matter?<BR>>=3D3D20
> >> >> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>actually=3D3D3D20<BR>> stereo but<BR>> two =3D3D
> >> >>takes of=3D3D20
> >> >> acoustic guitar playing so I had =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>tomove=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>different=3D3D20
> >> >> parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>make them=3D3D3D20<BR>> on time.<BR>> I want =3D3D
> >> >>a stereo=3D3D20
> >> >> effect because I wanna expand the =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>perspective=3D3D20
> >> >> of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and=3D3D20
> >> >> hard=3D3D3D20<BR>> right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks =3D3D
> >> >>compressor's=3D3D20
> >> >> stereo widening =3D3D3D<BR>>knob ??=3D3D3D20<BR>> !!<BR>> =
>=3D3D
> >> >>Amazing=3D3D20
> >> >> stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>not=3D3D20
> >> >> like=3D3D3D20<BR>> waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at=3D3D20
> >> >> all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio"=3D3D20
> >> >> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D3D=
>20'>ma=3D
> >>ilto:e=3D3D
> >> =
>>>nnio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D3D20</A><BR>>&n=3D3D
> >> >>bsp;=3D3D20
> >> >> wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides =3D3D
> >> >>of the=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>> file must be<BR>>=3D3D20
> >> >> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>sample=3D3D3D20<BR>> (the furthest down you can =
>go=3D3D20
> >> >> on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" =3D3D
> >> >><<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erli=
>lo@o=3D
> >>nlin=3D3D
> >> >>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> >> >> wrote in =3D3D3D<BR>>message <A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:=
>438f=3D
> >>4d36=3D3D
> >> >>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>Is it=3D3D3D20<BR>> exactly the same length on =
>each =3D3D
> >> >>stereo files=3D3D20
> >> >> or no different=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the=3D3D20
> >> >> stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> >>objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios"=3D3D20
> >> >> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:=
>musu=3D
> >>rgio=3D3D
> >> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> >> >> skrev i =3D3D3D<BR>>melding=3D3D3D20<BR>> <BR>>>>=3D3D20
> >> >> <A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>=
>&g'>=3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=3D3D
> >> >>;>&g</A>=3D3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have =3D3D
> >> >>almost=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>finished my=3D3D3D20<BR>> project mixing and when
=
>I =3D3D
> >> >>try to put a=3D3D20
> >> >> <BR>>>> >=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>stereo<BR>>>> >=3D3D20
> >> >> native<BR>>>> > effect on any=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>audio=3D3D3D20<BR>> track on any submix when I try
=
>to =3D3D
> >> >>save I=3D3D20
> >> >> always<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>get<BR>>>>=3D3D3D20<BR>> >=3D3D20
> >> >> assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>same name=3D3D3D20<BR>> or =3D3D
> >> >>other...<BR>>>> > The=3D3D20
> >> >> problem is that I want to use =3D3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>>
=
>=3D3D
> >> >>effects as I=3D3D20
> >> >> did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>why=3D3D3D20<BR>> Paris doesn't let =3D3D
> >> >>to...<BR>>>>=3D3D20
> >> >> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>=3D3D
> >> >>;>><BR>>><BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> >><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR>>=3D3D
> >> >><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> >><HTML><HEAD>
> >><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> >><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> >><STYLE></STYLE>
> >></HEAD>
> >><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I agree with Erlilo. Try =3D
> >>different channels=3D20
> >>or a different</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>submix if you can. Otherwise =
>=3D
> >>rebuilding the=3D20
> >>mix from</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>scratch in a new project is the
=
>next =3D
> >>best=3D20
> >>bet. Copy all</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>mixer settings and presets of =
>effects =3D
> >>to make it=3D20
> >>easier.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
=
>=3D
> >>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
>A>&g=3D
> >>t;=3D20
> >> wrote in message <A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D"news:43908331$1@linux">news:43908331$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>=
>Dimi=3D
> >>trios,=3D20
> >> You probably know this, but just to make sure...<BR>If you want to
=
>use
> > =3D
> >>stereo=3D20
> >> native plugins, you can NOT have any mono plugins<BR>on those =
>tracks.
> > =3D
> >>That=3D20
> >> goes for native and EDS.<BR>Do you have any mono eds or native =
>plugs =3D
> >>also on=3D20
> >> the stereo pair?<BR>Rod<BR>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=3D20
> >> wrote:<BR>><BR>>Dear Tom,<BR>>It is not the plugin under =3D
> >>other song I=3D20
> >> can open a stereo native effect.<BR>>In my project I cannot open =
>=3D
> >>ANY stereo=3D20
> >> effect.<BR>>Even chainer only...<BR>>I can save my project no =3D
> >>problem if=3D20
> >> I don't use a stereo native effect.<BR>>ALSO on submix 3 I managed
=
>=3D
> >>toopen a=3D20
> >> stereo native effect but not on submix<BR>>1 or 4 , any =
>suggestion=3D20
> >> ?<BR>>Regards,<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> >> =
>href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> >> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Dimitrios,<BR>>>Are =3D
> >>you saying=3D20
> >> you can save before this stereo plugin<BR>>>is inserted? =3D
> >>I'd say=3D20
> >> you may have a rouge plugin that<BR>>>your wrapper or Paris just =
>=3D
> >>doesn't=3D20
> >> like. Try the same thing<BR>>>in a different =3D
> >>project. ie:=3D20
> >> Same stereo plugin inserted<BR>>>on another stereo pair of =3D
> >>tracks. =3D20
> >> Now can you save?<BR>>>If so it may be your project. If =3D
> >>not it's=3D20
> >> probably your plugin.<BR>>><BR>>>Good=3D20
> >> luck,<BR>>>Tom<BR>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote
=
>in =3D
> >>message=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>news:43906b78$1@linux...<BR>>><BR>>> =3D
> >>Thanks for=3D20
> >> your suggestions.<BR>>> I have rendered using the hardware =3D
> >>method=3D20
> >> via adat and achieved one =3D3D<BR>>>nice<BR>>> =3D
> >>compact stereo=3D20
> >> track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved all=3D20
> >> audio<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>files<BR>>> on new folder and =3D
> >>saved=3D20
> >> under new name I used the clear missing =3D20
> >> files<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>just<BR>>> before that but =3D
> >>again no luck=3D20
> >> when I put a stereo native effect on =3D3D<BR>>>this=3D20
> >> stereotrack<BR>>> even without hitting play when I =3D
> >>try to=3D20
> >> save assertion fails and =3D3D<BR>>>doesn't<BR>>> =3D
> >>allow of any=3D20
> >> save !<BR>>> Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when =3D
> >>I hit=3D20
> >> SAve ...<BR>>> rEGARDS,<BR>>> =3D20
> >> dIMITRIOS<BR>>><BR>>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> >> =
>href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> >> wrote:<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> =3D
> >>
> >> >Dimitrios,<BR>>> >Rendering is your answer. =3D
> >>Don't=3D20
> >> render tracks with plugins. In =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >the right side=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
> >>>won't have=3D20
> >> any effect. Double check to see that their timing is=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>correct<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >too.<BR>>> >Some people have problems with=3D20
> >> that.<BR>>> >Tom<BR>>> > "erlilo" =3D
> >><<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in
=
>=3D
> >>message=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>news:43900b57$1@linux...<BR>>> > =3D
> >>There you=3D20
> >> have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and=3D20
> >> look<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >after=3D20
> >> that=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > each stereopair is starting =3D
> >>and ending=3D20
> >> at the same places will do<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>the<BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >job=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D
> >>when saving=3D20
> >> under a new name, just to be sure to go back if=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>something<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >are=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > going wrong again. If the =3D
> >>time=3D20
> >> alignments are going wrong in some<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>of =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >the=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > stereofiles, you can =3D
> >>rendering the=3D20
> >> old, hard way, as in version =3D
> >>2,<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >when=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > mixing down each =3D
> >>stereopair with=3D20
> >> panning hard left and right and =3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
> >>>muting=3D20
> >> all=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > other tracks. Then you can =3D
> >>import them=3D20
> >> into the project again on =3D3D<BR>>>their<BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >old=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D
> >>places and=3D20
> >> give them new names.<BR>>> ><BR>>> =3D
> >>> =3D20
> >> Erling<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> =3D
> >>
> >> > "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev
=
>i =3D
> >>melding=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>>> =3D
> >>
> >> > ><BR>>> > > =3D
> >>Hi,<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > > Thanks for your replies.<BR>>> > =3D
> >>>=3D20
> >> What I have managed is to have the same start and end for =
>both=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>audio<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >files<BR>>> > > just by cutting at cursor =3D
> >>pointy=3D20
> >> on both tracks.<BR>>> > > Buit insight the =3D
> >>stereo=3D20
> >> tracks each of themhas different cut =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>>points<BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >and=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D
> >>>=3D20
> >> joint<BR>>> > > points , does this=3D20
> >> matter?<BR>>> > > If you ask me why it is =3D
> >>because=3D20
> >> these tracks are not actually =3D3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >but<BR>>> > > two =3D
> >>takes of=3D20
> >> acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>parts<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >on=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > > each<BR>>> =3D
> >>
> >> > > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on =3D
> >>time.<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the =3D
> >>stereo=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>perspective<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >of=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > > them<BR>>> =3D
> >>
> >> > > pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening =3D
> >>knob ??=3D20
> >> !!<BR>>> > > Amazing stereo result with =3D
> >>complete mono=3D20
> >> compatibility , not like<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
> >>
> >> >waves=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > > =3D
> >>imager<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > > at all...<BR>>> > >=3D20
> >> Cheers,<BR>>> > > DImitrios<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > ><BR>>> > ><BR>>> =3D
> >>> =3D20
> >> > "Ennio" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20
> >> wrote:<BR>>> > >>The in-points (and =3D
> >>out-points) on=3D20
> >> both sides of the stereo file<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>must<BR>>> =3D
> >>
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >be<BR>>> > >=3D20
> >> at<BR>>> > >>the identical spot - down to =3D
> >>the=3D20
> >> sample (the furthest down you =3D3D<BR>>>can =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >go=3D20
> >> on<BR>>> > > the<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> >>zoom tool)<BR>>> > =3D
> >>>><BR>>> =3D20
> >> > >>"erlilo" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in
=
>=3D
> >>message=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>news:438f4d36@linux...<BR>>> > =3D
> >>>>>=3D20
> >> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>different<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >holes<BR>>> > >>in<BR>>> =3D
> >>> =3D20
> >> >>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> >>><BR>>> > >>>=3D20
> >> Erling<BR>>> > >>><BR>>> =3D
> >>> =3D20
> >> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev
=
>i=3D20
> >> melding=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > >>> <A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&n=3D=
>
> >>bsp;=3D20
> >> > >>> ><BR>>> > >>> =3D
> >>>=3D20
> >> Hi,<BR>>> > >>> > I have almost =3D
> >>finished my=3D20
> >> project mixing and when I try to =3D3D<BR>>>put =3D
> >>a<BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> ><BR>>> > >>> =3D
> >>>=3D20
> >> stereo<BR>>> > >>> > =3D
> >>native<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix =3D
> >>when I=3D20
> >> try to save I<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >always<BR>>> > > get<BR>>> =3D
> >>> =3D20
> >> >>> > assertion<BR>>> > >>> =3D
> >>>=3D20
> >> failed and cannot save either on same name or =3D
> >>other...<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo =3D
> >>effects=3D20
> >> as I did =3D3D<BR>>>before<BR>>> =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >but<BR>>> > >>don't<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > >>> > know why Paris doesn't let=3D20
> >> to...<BR>>> > >>> >=3D20
> >> Regards,<BR>>> > >>> >=3D20
> >> Dimitrios<BR>>> > >>><BR>>> =3D20
> >> > >>><BR>>> > =3D20
> >> >><BR>>> > >><BR>>> =3D
> >>> =3D20
> >> >=3D3D3D20<BR>>> ><BR>>> =3D
> >>><BR>>> =3D20
> >> ><BR>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =3D
> >>4.0=3D20
> >> Transitional//EN"><BR>>> =3D20
> >> ><HTML><HEAD><BR>>> ><META=3D20
> >> http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>>> ><META=3D20
> >> content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =3D
> >>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>>> =3D20
> >> ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>>> =3D20
> >> ></HEAD><BR>>> ><BODY=3D20
> >> bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> >> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> size=3D3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =3D20
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Rendering is =3D
> >>your answer.=3D20
> >> Don't<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >render=3D20
> >> tracks=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >with plugins. In stereo the right =3D
> >>side=3D20
> >> </FONT></DIV><BR>>> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> >> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
> >>>size=3D3D3D3D2>have=3D20
> >> any=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >effect. Double check to see that =3D
> >>their timing=3D20
> >> is correct =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >too.</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =3D
> >>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> >> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Some people have problems=3D20
> >> with<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >that.</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =3D
> >>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> >> face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >>size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =3D20
> >> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
> >>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D20
> >> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =3D
> >>5px;<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =3D
> >>0px"><BR>>> =3D20
> >> > <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D20'>mail=
>to:erl=3D
> >>ilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D20</A><BR>>>&n=3D
> >>bsp;=3D20
> >> > wrote in message <A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Ther=
>e'>n=3D
> >>ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=3D
> >>ere</A><BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >you have=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
> >>> the=3D20
> >> problem. I think rendering the tracks and look after that=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>><BR>each<BR>>> =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> ><BR>>> > stereopair is starting and ending at =3D
> >>the=3D20
> >> same places will do the =3D3D<BR>>>job =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> ><BR>when=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > saving under a =3D
> >>new name,=3D20
> >> just to be sure to go back if something =3D3D<BR>>>are =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> ><BR>going=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > wrong again. =3D
> >>If the time=3D20
> >> alignments are going wrong in some of =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>>the=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, =3D
> >>as in=3D20
> >> version<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>2,<BR>>> =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >when=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > <BR>mixing down =3D
> >>each=3D20
> >> stereopair with panning hard left and right =3D3D<BR>>>and=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >muting=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D
> >>all=3D20
> >> <BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the project=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>again<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >on=3D20
> >> their=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > old <BR>places and =3D
> >>give them new=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D
> >>>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>"Dimitr=3D
> >>ios"=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > <<A href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musu=
>rgio=3D
> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >skrev =3D
> >>i=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > melding <A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
>=3D
> >>g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=3D
> >>><BR>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >t;=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > Hi,<BR>> Thanks =3D
> >>for your=3D20
> >> replies.<BR>> What I have managed is to=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
> >>>have=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by =3D
> >>cutting=3D20
> >> at<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
> >>>cursor=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the =3D
> >>stereo tracks=3D20
> >> each of<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >themhas=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > different cut points =3D
> >>and=3D20
> >> <BR>> joint<BR>> points , does =3D
> >>this=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these =3D
> >>tracks=3D20
> >> are not<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >actually=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > stereo =3D
> >>but<BR>> two=3D20
> >> takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >tomove=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > different parts on =3D
> >><BR>>=3D20
> >> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
> >>>make=3D20
> >> them=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > on time.<BR>> I want =3D
> >>a stereo=3D20
> >> effect because I wanna expand the =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > perspective of =3D
> >><BR>>=3D20
> >> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and =3D
> >>hard=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's =3D
> >>stereo=3D20
> >> widening =3D3D3D<BR>>> >knob ??=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
> >>> =3D20
> >> !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono =3D
> >>compatibility ,=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >not =3D
> >>like=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at =3D
> >>all...<BR>>=3D20
> >> Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio"=3D20
> >> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D3D20'>=
>mailto=3D
> >>:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D3D20</A><BR>&g=3D
> >>t;> =3D20
> >> > wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on =3D
> >>both=3D20
> >> sides of the =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
> >>>stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the =3D
> >>identical spot -=3D20
> >> down to the =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
> >>>sample=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> (the furthest down you can go on<BR>>=3D20
> >> the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo"=3D20
> >> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@o=
>nlin=3D
> >>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=3D20
> >> wrote in<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >message=3D20
> >> <A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
> >>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f=
>4d36=3D
> >>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >Is it=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D
> >>exactly the=3D20
> >> same length on each stereo files or no =3D
> >>different=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the=3D20
> >> stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> =3D
> >>objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D3D20<BR>>>&n=3D
> >>bsp;=3D20
> >> > Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> =3D
> >>"Dimitrios"=3D20
> >> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musu=
>rgio=3D
> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D20
> >> skrev<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>i =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >melding=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > <BR>>>> =3D
> >>
> >> <A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=3D=
>3D=3D
> >>3D'>news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>=3D
> >>;>>&g=3D3D3D</A>=3D3D<BR>>><BR>>> =3D20
> >> >t;=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > ><BR>>>> =3D
> >>>=3D20
> >> Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >finished my=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > project mixing and =3D
> >>when I=3D20
> >> try to put a <BR>>>> >=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
> >>> =3D20
> >> stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > =3D
> >>effect on=3D20
> >> any =3D3D3D<BR>>> >audio=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
> >>> track on=3D20
> >> any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >get<BR>>>>=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > > =3D
> >>
> >> assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >same name=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
> >>> or=3D20
> >> other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D
> >>effects as=3D20
> >> I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > =3D
> >>know=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >why=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D
> >>Paris doesn't=3D20
> >> let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>>=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >>=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D
> >>>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>&g=3D
> >>t;<BR>>><BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> =3D
> >><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR>>=3D
> >>> =3D20
> >> ><BR>>> =3D
> >>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><!DOCTYPE=3D20
> >> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>Transitional//EN"><BR>>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>><=3D
> >>META=3D20
> >> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>>><META =3D
> >>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> >> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>>>=3D
> >></HEAD><BR>>><BODY=3D20
> >> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV>&=3D
> >>lt;FONT=3D20
> >> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Are you saying you can save =
>before=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>this<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>>>plugin</FONT ><=3D
> >>/DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> >> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>is inserted? I'd say you may have =
>=3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>>a=3D20
> >> rouge=3D3D20<BR>>>plugin=3D20
> >> that</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> size=3D3D3D2>your wrapper or Paris just doesn't =
>=3D3D<BR>>>like.=3D20
> >> Try=3D3D20<BR>>>the same=3D20
> >> thing</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> size=3D3D3D2>in a different project. ie: Same=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>>>plugin=3D20
> >> inserted</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> size=3D3D3D2>on another stereo pair of tracks. =3D3D<BR>>>Now can
=
>=3D
> >>
> >> =3D
> >>you=3D3D20<BR>>>save?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV>=3D
> >><FONT=3D20
> >> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>If so it may be your project. If =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>>not=3D20
> >> it's=3D3D20<BR>>>probably your=3D20
> >> plugin.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
> >></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> >> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Good=3D20
> >> luck,</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20=3D
> >><BR>>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D20
> >> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>>BORDER-LEFT:
=
>=3D
> >>#000000=3D20
> >> 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>>> =3D
> >><DIV>"Dimitrios"=3D20
> >> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musu=
>rgio=3D
> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D20
> >> wrote in =3D3D<BR>>>message=3D3D20<BR>>> <A=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>=
>Than=3D
> >>'>news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=3D
> >>;<BR>Than</A>=3D3D<BR>>>ks=3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware =3D
> >>method=3D20
> >> via<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>adat=3D3D20<BR>>> and achieved one =3D
> >>
> >> nice<BR>compact stereo track with my acoustic =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>>guitars, I=3D20
> >> even=3D3D20<BR>>> saved all audio files<BR>on new =3D
> >>folder and=3D20
> >> saved under new name I =3D
> >>used<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>the=3D3D20<BR>>> clear=3D20
> >> missing files just<BR>before that but again no luck when I=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>put a=3D3D20<BR>>> stereo native effect on =3D
> >>this=3D20
> >> stereotrack<BR>even without hitting =3D3D<BR>>>play=3D20
> >> =3D3D20<BR>>> when I try to save assertion fails and=3D20
> >> doesn't<BR>allow of any save=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>!<BR>Note=3D3D20<BR>>> that assertion =3D
> >>failure=3D20
> >> appears ONLY when I hit SAve=3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> ...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom =3D
> >>Bruhl"=3D20
> >> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20'>=
>mailto=3D
> >>:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>&g=3D
> >>t;> =3D20
> >> =3D
> >>wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>R=3D
> >>endering=3D20
> >> is your=3D3D20<BR>>> answer. Don't render tracks with =3D
> >>plugins.=3D20
> >> In=3D3D20<BR>>> stereo<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the right =3D
> >>
> >> side=3D3D3D20<BR>>won't have any =3D3D<BR>>>effect.=3D20
> >> =3D3D20<BR>>> Double check to see that their timing is=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>>correct<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>too.<BR>>Some=3D
> >>=3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>> =3D
> >>"erlilo"=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>><<A=3D3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@o=
>nlin=3D
> >>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=3D20
> >> wrote in =3D3D<BR>>>message <A=3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR'>news:=
>4390=3D
> >>0b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>> There=3D3D20<BR>>> you have the problem. I =3D
> >>think=3D20
> >> rendering the tracks and look=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>after=3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> that=3D3D3D20<BR>> each stereopair is starting and ending at =3D
> >>the=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>same=3D3D20<BR>>> places will do=3D20
> >> the<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>job=3D3D3D20<BR>> when saving=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>under a new=3D3D20<BR>>> name, just to be =3D
> >>sure to go back=3D20
> >> if =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>>something<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D3D20<BR >=3D
> >>>=3D20
> >> =3D3D20<BR>>> going wrong again. If the time alignments are =3D
> >>going=3D20
> >> wrong in some of=3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> >> stereofiles, you can rendering the =3D3D<BR>>>old, =3D
> >>hard=3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> way, as in version 2, =3D3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >>mixing down=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>each=3D3D20<BR>>> stereopair with panning =3D
> >>hard left and=3D20
> >> right and =3D3D3D<BR>>muting=3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
> >>all=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> >> other tracks. Then you can import them into the=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>project=3D3D20<BR>>> again on=3D20
> >> their<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>old=3D3D3D20<BR>> places and =3D
> >>give=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>them new=3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
> >>names.<BR>><BR>>=3D20
> >> Erling<BR>><BR>><BR>>=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>"Dimitrios"=3D3D20<BR>>> <<A =3D
> >>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musu=
>rgio=3D
> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>skrev i=3D3D20<BR>>> melding=3D20Thanks for you insight...
I have a major problem with this cause some of the tracks of submix 1` cannot
be rendered neither with no native plugins...
Is there any tip using the digital spdif in out to have all in time and alligned
?
I have read that spdif out-in is 1 sample latent.
The problem is that I have to record via spdif via actual levels and then
when I import should leave them at 0 point level, right ?
or do it the other way around ?
REgards,
Dimitrios
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Dimitrios,
>Sorry I had a gig last night. Do as Erling suggested regarding =
>rendering
>all tracks and copying to a new folder. Start a new Paris project and =
>call
>it something different. Go to audio window and import all newly =
>rendered
>files you need. Set a new record path too. Make sure saves work after
=
>each step. =20
>In original project make sure all effects being used have been saved =
>individually. In old project
>copy all mixer settings in Mixer A (You discovered this last week!), =
>open new project and paste=20
>all mixer settings in its Mixer A. Try to save right after this and =
>every step. Close Mixer A in new project
>then reopen it. This should make all the plugins 'appear'. Just a =
>quirky Paris thing.
>Now get those presets working in each plugin. Try a save. If all is =
>well do these same steps
>across all Submixes until all Mixers/plugins are the same as original =
>project. Try a save.
>Now might be a good time to try your stereo plugin that causes your =
>problem in the old
>project. If after it's installed in the new one, you can save then =
>you're almost out of the woods.
>
>If you were using automation you will need to copy that too. Go to =
>Automation Editor A in old project.
>Select Volume, Set Now Line to beginning of project. Use 'Select All' =
>command or drag
>across all 16 tracks with mouse to highlight everything. Control C =
>(copy). Go to new project,
>put Now Line at beginning of project in Automation Editor and make sure
=
>active track is the first one that was active
>on the old project when copying. Otherwise your data may paste a track =
>or two off. The effects
>return automation has to be done separately from tracks. After this, go
=
>to original project and select Mute.
>Copy paste etc.. Repeat these steps on all auto editors that were being
=
>used.
>
>It sounds harder than it really is. Remember to try saving between each
=
>step in new project.
>If at any time it doesn't want to save, you have found out why there is
=
>a problem. Possibly
>an unknown bug. =20
>
>Good luck. You'll be a better man for it!
>Tom
>
>
> "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message news:43918529@linux...
> Dimitros
>
> My way of doing this is:
> Have Paris closed,
> make a new folder on the audio harddisk with Explorer or something=20
> similar(I'm using TotalCommander).
> Copy ONLY waves or/and PAF files from the old project into the new =
>folder.
> Start a new project in Paris.
> Import from the new folder all the Waves and PAF files you need into =
>the new=20
> project and set the path to the new project.
> In Ediit menu, set the files into the subgroups and channels you wish.
> Now you have a new project without any old, saved information at all =
>to=20
> start from scratch.
> It's important that all files are rendered to start from zero in the =
>old=20
> project.
>
> If this doesn't help and the earlier rendered stereofiles have =
>absolutelly=20
> correct lenghts, I can't think of other things than plugin problems.
>
> Hope this can help to explain my way of doing something with this kind
=
>of=20
> problems.
>
> Erling
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding =
>news:43917c01$1@linux...
> >
> >
> > Sory if I ask much but the way I do the project rebuild does not =
>help.
> > How do you do a rebuild ?
> > I just go to audio folder export audio objects or wave files under a
=
>new
> > folder then save the new song and then reopen from new folder.
> > I guess you might refer to something different here right ?
> > Can you explain your way ?
> > Thanks
> > Regards,
> > Dimitrios
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>Dimitrios,
> >>I agree with Erlilo. Try different channels or a different
> >>submix if you can. Otherwise rebuilding the mix from
> >>scratch in a new project is the next best bet. Copy all
> >>mixer settings and presets of effects to make it easier.
> >>Tom
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =3D
> >>news:43908331$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Dimitrios, You probably know this, but just to make sure...
> >> If you want to use stereo native plugins, you can NOT have any =
>mono =3D
> >>plugins
> >> on those tracks. That goes for native and EDS.
> >> Do you have any mono eds or native plugs also on the stereo pair?
> >> Rod
> >> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Dear Tom,
> >> >It is not the plugin under other song I can open a stereo native
=
>=3D
> >>effect.
> >> >In my project I cannot open ANY stereo effect.
> >> >Even chainer only...
> >> >I can save my project no problem if I don't use a stereo native =
>=3D
> >>effect.
> >> >ALSO on submix 3 I managed toopen a stereo native effect but not
=
>on =3D
> >>submix
> >> >1 or 4 , any suggestion ?
> >> >Regards,
> >> >Dimitrios
> >> >
> >> >"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Dimitrios,
> >> >>Are you saying you can save before this stereo plugin
> >> >>is inserted? I'd say you may have a rouge plugin that
> >> >>your wrapper or Paris just doesn't like. Try the same thing
> >> >>in a different project. ie: Same stereo plugin inserted
> >> >>on another stereo pair of tracks. Now can you save?
> >> >>If so it may be your project. If not it's probably your plugin.
> >> >>
> >> >>Good luck,
> >> >>Tom
> >> >> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =3D3D
> >> >>news:43906b78$1@linux...
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for your suggestions.
> >> >> I have rendered using the hardware method via adat and =
>achieved =3D
> >>one =3D3D
> >> >>nice
> >> >> compact stereo track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved =
>all =3D
> >>audio
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>files
> >> >> on new folder and saved under new name I used the clear =
>missing =3D
> >>files
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>just
> >> >> before that but again no luck when I put a stereo native =
>effect on
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>this stereotrack
> >> >> even without hitting play when I try to save assertion fails
=
>and
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>doesn't
> >> >> allow of any save !
> >> >> Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve ...
> >> >> rEGARDS,
> >> >> dIMITRIOS
> >> >>
> >> >> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Dimitrios,
> >> >> >Rende
|
|
|
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| Re: Bizzare_assertion_fail_problem_any_insight? [message #60894 is a reply to message #60889] |
Sat, 03 December 2005 11:52 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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Senior Member |
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ring is your answer. Don't render tracks with plugins.
=
>In
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>stereo
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >the right side=3D3D3D20
> >> >> >won't have any effect. Double check to see that their timing
=
>is
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>correct
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >too.
> >> >> >Some people have problems with that.
> >> >> >Tom
> >> >> > "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =3D3D
> >> >>news:43900b57$1@linux...
> >> >> > There you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks =
>and =3D
> >>look
> >> =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >after that=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > each stereopair is starting and ending at the same places =
>will
> > =3D
> >>do
> >> =3D3D
> >> >>the
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >job=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > when saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if
=
>=3D3D
> >> >>something
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >are=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong =
>in =3D
> >>some
> >> =3D3D
> >> >>of =3D3D3D
> >> >> >the=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in =
>version
> > =3D
> >>2,
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >when=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and =
>right =3D
> >>and =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >muting all=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > other tracks. Then you can import them into the project =
>again =3D
> >>on =3D3D
> >> >>their
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >old=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > places and give them new names.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Erling
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding =3D3D3D
> >> >> >news:439000f1$1@linux...
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Hi,
> >> >> > > Thanks for your replies.
> >> >> > > What I have managed is to have the same start and end for
=
>=3D
> >>both =3D3D
> >> >>audio
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >files
> >> >> > > just by cutting at cursor pointy on both tracks.
> >> >> > > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of themhas different
=
>cut
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>points
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >and=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > > joint
> >> >> > > points , does this matter?
> >> >> > > If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not =
>actually
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>stereo
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >but
> >> >> > > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove =3D
> >>different =3D3D
> >> >>parts
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >on=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > > each
> >> >> > > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on time.
> >> >> > > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the stereo
=
>=3D3D
> >> >>perspective
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >of=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > > them
> >> >> > > pl;aying hard left and hard right.
> >> >> > > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening knob
=
>?? =3D
> >>!!
> >> >> > > Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility ,
=
>not
> > =3D
> >>like
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >waves=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > > imager
> >> >> > > at all...
> >> >> > > Cheers,
> >> >> > > DImitrios
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "Ennio" <ennio@galicorp.net> wrote:
> >> >> > >>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the =
>stereo =3D
> >>file
> >> =3D3D
> >> >>must
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >be
> >> >> > > at
> >> >> > >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest =
>down =3D
> >>you =3D3D
> >> >>can =3D3D3D
> >> >> >go on
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > >>zoom tool)
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =3D3D
> >> >>news:438f4d36@linux...
> >> >> > >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or =
>no =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>different
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >holes
> >> >> > >>in
> >> >> > >>> any of the stereo objects?
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Erling
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i =
>melding=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > >>> news:438f3760$1@linux...
> >> >> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>> > Hi,
> >> >> > >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I =
>try =3D
> >>to =3D3D
> >> >>put a
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >>> > stereo
> >> >> > >>> > native
> >> >> > >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix when I try to
=
>=3D
> >>save I
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >always
> >> >> > > get
> >> >> > >>> > assertion
> >> >> > >>> > failed and cannot save either on same name or =
>other...
> >> >> > >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as I
=
>did
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>before
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >but
> >> >> > >>don't
> >> >> > >>> > know why Paris doesn't let to...
> >> >> > >>> > Regards,
> >> >> > >>> > Dimitrios
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >=3D3D3D20
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
>Transitional//EN">
> >> >> ><HTML><HEAD>
> >> >> ><META http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
>content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> >> >> ><META content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> >> >> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> >> >> ></HEAD>
> >> >> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff>
> >> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
> >> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Rendering is =
>your =3D
> >>answer. Don't
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >render tracks=3D3D3D20
> >> >> >with plugins. In stereo the right side </FONT></DIV>
> >> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>won't =
></FONT><FONT =3D3D
> >> >>face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D3D3D
> >> >> >size=3D3D3D3D2>have any=3D3D3D20
> >> >> >effect. Double check to see that their timing is correct =
>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >too.</FONT></DIV>
> >> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Some people have
=
>=3D
> >>problems with
> >> =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >that.</FONT></DIV>
> >> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> >> >> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D3D20
> >> >> >style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
>MARGIN-LEFT:
> > =3D
> >>5px;
> >> =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >> >> > <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D3D3D
> >> >> =
>>href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > wrote in message <A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DI=
>V>Th=3D
> >>ere
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >you have=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look after =
>that =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >><BR>each
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >
> >> >> > stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will =
>do =3D
> >>the =3D3D
> >> >>job =3D3D3D
> >> >> ><BR>when=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if =3D
> >>something =3D3D
> >> >>are =3D3D3D
> >> >> ><BR>going=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some
=
>of
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>the=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in
=
>=3D
> >>version
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>2,
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >when=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > <BR>mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and
=
>=3D
> >>right =3D3D
> >> >>and =3D3D3D
> >> >> >muting=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > all <BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the =
>project
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>again
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >on their=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > old <BR>places and give them new =3D3D3D
> >> >> >names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>"Dimitrios"=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > <<A =3D
> >>href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
>=3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >skrev i=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > melding <A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =3D3D3D
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D"news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR=
>>><B=3D
> >>R>&g=3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >t;=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have managed
=
>is =3D
> >>to =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >have=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by =
>=3D
> >>cutting at
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >cursor=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks
=
>each
> > =3D
> >>of
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >themhas=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > different cut points and <BR>> joint<BR>> points , does =3D
> >>this=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these tracks =
>are =3D
> >>not
> >> =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >actually=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > stereo but<BR>> two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I =
>had =3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >tomove=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > different parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks =
>to =3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >make them=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > on time.<BR>> I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand
=
>the
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >stereo=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > perspective of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and =3D
> >>hard=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo =
>widening
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >knob ??=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono =
>compatibility
> > =3D
> >>, =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >not like=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at all...<BR>> =
>Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio" <<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D3D=
>20
> >> >> > wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of
=
>the
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >stereo=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the
=
>=3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >sample=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > (the furthest down you can go on<BR>> =
>the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" <<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =
>href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> =3D
> >>wrote in
> >> =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >message <A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =3D3D3D
> >> >> =3D
> =
>>>>href=3D3D3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>>>>
=
>=3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >Is it=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > exactly the same length on each stereo files or no =3D
> >>different=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the stereo=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =
>href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>
> > =3D
> >>skrev
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>i =3D3D3D
> >> >> >melding=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > <BR>>>> <A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =3D3D3D
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR=
>>>>&=3D
> >>g=3D3D3D=3D3D
> >> >>
> >> >> >t;=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D3D3D
> >> >> >finished my=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > project mixing and when I try to put a <BR>>>> >=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > effect on any =3D3D3D
> >> >> >audio=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > track on any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >get<BR>>>>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > > assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on =
>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >same name=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > or other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use =
>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >stereo=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > effects as I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know =
>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >why=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > Paris doesn't let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D3D3D
> >> >> >>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =3D3D3D
> >> >> >Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>=3D3D3D
> >> >> >=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> >> >><HTML><HEAD>
> >> >><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
>=3D3D
> >> >>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> >> >><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> >> >><STYLE></STYLE>
> >> >></HEAD>
> >> >><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Are you saying you can
=
>save =3D
> >>before this
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>stereo=3D3D20
> >> >>plugin</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>is inserted? I'd say =
>you may =3D
> >>have =3D3D
> >> >>a rouge=3D3D20
> >> >>plugin that</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>your wrapper or Paris =
>just =3D
> >>doesn't =3D3D
> >> >>like. Try=3D3D20
> >> >>the same thing</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>in a different project.
=
>ie: =3D
> >>Same =3D3D
> >> >>stereo=3D3D20
> >> >>plugin inserted</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>on another stereo pair
=
>of =3D
> >>tracks. =3D3D
> >> >>Now can you=3D3D20
> >> >>save?</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>If so it may be your =
>project. =3D
> >>If =3D3D
> >> >>not it's=3D3D20
> >> >>probably your plugin.</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> >> >>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:
=
>5px;
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >> >> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20
> >> >> href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>
=
>wrote
> > =3D
> >>in =3D3D
> >> >>message=3D3D20
> >> >> <A =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D"news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
><BR>=3D
> >>Than=3D3D
> >> >>ks=3D3D20
> >> >> for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware =
>method
> > =3D
> >>via
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>adat=3D3D20
> >> >> and achieved one nice<BR>compact stereo track with my acoustic
=
>=3D3D
> >> >>guitars, I even=3D3D20
> >> >> saved all audio files<BR>on new folder and saved under new =
>name I
> > =3D
> >>used
> >> >=3D3D
> >> >>the=3D3D20
> >> >> clear missing files just<BR>before that but again no luck when
=
>I =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>put a=3D3D20
> >> >> stereo native effect on this stereotrack<BR>even without =
>hitting =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>play =3D3D20
> >> >> when I try to save assertion fails and doesn't<BR>allow of any
=
>=3D
> >>save =3D3D
> >> >>!<BR>Note=3D3D20
> >> >> that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve=3D3D20
> >> >> ...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20=
>
> >> >> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>Rendering is your=3D3D20
> >> >> answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In=3D3D20
> >> >> stereo<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the right side=3D3D3D20<BR>>won't have =
>any =3D3D
> >> >>effect. =3D3D20
> >> >> Double check to see that their timing is =3D3D
> >> >>correct<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>too.<BR>>Some=3D3D20
> >> >> people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>> "erlilo" =3D3D
> >> >><<A=3D3D20
> >> >> href=3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> =
>wrote in
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>message <A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =
>>>href=3D3D3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>=3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >> There=3D3D20
> >> >> you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =
>=3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>after=3D3D20
> >> >> that=3D3D3D20<BR>> each stereopair is starting and ending at =
>the =3D3D
> >> >>same=3D3D20
> >> >> places will do the<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>job=3D3D3D20<BR>> when =
>saving =3D3D
> >> >>under a new=3D3D20
> >> >> name, just to be sure to go back if =3D3D
> >> >>something<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in =
>some
> > =3D
> >>of=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D3D20<BR>> stereofiles, you can rendering =
>the =3D3D
> >> >>old, hard=3D3D20
> >> >> way, as in version 2, =3D3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D3D20<BR>> mixing =
>down =3D3D
> >> >>each=3D3D20
> >> >> stereopair with panning hard left and right and =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>muting=3D3D20
> >> >> all=3D3D3D20<BR>> other tracks. Then you can import them into
=
>the =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>project=3D3D20
> >> >> again on their<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>old=3D3D3D20<BR>> places and =
>give =3D3D
> >> >>them new=3D3D20
> >> >> names.<BR>><BR>> Erling<BR>><BR>><BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>"Dimitrios"=3D3D20
> >> >> <<A =
>href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>skrev i=3D3D20
> >> >> melding =3D3D3D<BR>>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>><BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> > Hi,<BR>> > Thanks for your replies.<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>> What I=3D3D20
> >> >> have managed is to have the same start and end for both=3D3D20
> >> >> audio<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>files<BR>> > just by cutting at cursor =
>=3D3D
> >> >>pointy on=3D3D20
> >> >> both tracks.<BR>> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =
>=3D3D
> >> >>themhas=3D3D20
> >> >> different cut points<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D
> >> >>joint<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> > points , does this matter?<BR>> > If you ask me why =3D3D
> >> >>it is=3D3D20
> >> >> because these tracks are not actually =3D3D
> >> >>stereo<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>but<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove =3D
> >>different=3D3D20
> >> >> parts<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>on=3D3D3D20<BR>> > each<BR>> > =3D3D
> >> >>of the=3D3D20
> >> >> "stereo" tracks to make them on time.<BR>> > I want a =3D3D
> >> >>stereo=3D3D20
> >> >> effect because I wanna expand the stereo=3D3D20
> >> >> perspective<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>of=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D
> >> >>them<BR>> >=3D3D20
> >> >> pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>> > Have you tried =3D3D
> >> >>T-racks=3D3D20
> >> >> compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!<BR>> > Amazing =3D3D
> >> >>stereo=3D3D20
> >> >> result with complete mono compatibility , not like=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>waves=3D3D3D20<BR>> > imager<BR>> > at=3D3D20
> >> >> all...<BR>> > Cheers,<BR>> > =3D3D
> >> >>DImitrios<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> ><BR>> ><BR>> > "Ennio" <<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =
>href=3D3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20
> >> >> wrote:<BR>> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both =3D3D
> >> >>sides of=3D3D20
> >> >> the stereo file must<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>be<BR>> > =3D3D
> >> >>at<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down =
>you =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>can=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>go on<BR>> > the<BR>> >>zoom=3D3D20
> >> >> tool)<BR>> >><BR>> >>"erlilo" <<A=3D3D20
> >> >> href=3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> =
>wrote in
> > =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>message <A=3D3D20
> >> >> =
>href=3D3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>> =3D
> >>=3D3D20
> >> >> >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or =
>no=3D3D20
> >> >> different<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>holes<BR>> >>in<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> >>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> >>><BR>> >>> Erling<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> >>><BR>> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20
> >> >> href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>
=
>skrev
> > =3D
> >>i=3D3D20
> >> >> melding=3D3D3D20<BR>> >>> <A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =
>>>href=3D3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>=3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D20
> >> >> >>> ><BR>> >>> > Hi,<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I =
>=3D3D
> >> >>try to=3D3D20
> >> >> put a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> >>> > =3D3D
> >> >>stereo<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> >>> > native<BR>> >>> > effect on any =3D3D
> >> >>audio=3D3D20
> >> >> track on any submix when I try to save I =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>always<BR>> >=3D3D20
> >> >> get<BR>> >>> > assertion<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>>>> >=3D3D20
> >> >> failed and cannot save either on same name or other...<BR>> =
>=3D3D20
> >> >> >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as =
>=3D3D
> >> >>I did=3D3D20
> >> >> before<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>but<BR>> >>don't<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>>>>=3D3D20
> >> >> > know why Paris doesn't let to...<BR>> >>> >=3D3D20
> >> >> Regards,<BR>> >>> > Dimitrios<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>>><BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> >><BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>>=3D3D3D20<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=3D3D20
> >> >> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D3D20
> >> >> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D3D20
> >> >> http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
>content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D3D
> >> >>content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20
> >> >> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> >>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D3D
> >> >>D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20
> >> >> bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> >>size=3D3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=3D3D
> >> >>ONT=3D3D20
> >> >> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Rendering is your answer. =
>Don't =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>render=3D3D20
> >> >> tracks=3D3D3D20<BR>>with plugins. In stereo the right =
>side=3D3D20
> >> >> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >> >> size=3D3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>have=3D3D20
> >> >> any=3D3D3D20<BR>>effect. Double check to see that their timing
=
>is =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>correct=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >> >>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >> >> size=3D3D3D3D2>Some people have problems with=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>that.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> >> >> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =
>>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D3D20 <BR>=3D3D
> >> >>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D3D20
> >> >> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>#000000 2px=3D3D20
> >> >> solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"erlilo" =3D3D
> >> >><<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D20'>=
>mailto=3D
> >>:erlil=3D3D
> >> >>o@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D20</A><BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> wrote in message <A=3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>Ther=3D
> >>e'>n=3D3D
> >> >>ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=3D3D
> >> >>ere</A><BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you=3D3D20
> >> >> have=3D3D3D20<BR>> the problem. I think rendering the tracks =
>and =3D3D
> >> >>look after=3D3D20
> >> >> that <BR>each<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> stereopair is =3D3D
> >> >>starting and=3D3D20
> >> >> ending at the same places will do the job=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>><BR>when=3D3D3D20<BR>> saving under a new name, =
>=3D3D
> >> >>just to be=3D3D20
> >> >> sure to go back if something are =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>going=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some =
>=3D
> >>of=3D3D20
> >> >> the=3D3D3D20<BR>> <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the =3D3D
> >> >>old, hard=3D3D20
> >> >> way, as in version 2,<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >><BR>mixing down=3D3D20
> >> >> each stereopair with panning hard left and right and=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>muting=3D3D3D20<BR>> all <BR>other tracks. Then =
>=3D3D
> >> >>you can=3D3D20
> >> >> import them into the project again<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>on =3D3D
> >> >>their=3D3D3D20<BR>> old=3D3D20
> >> >> <BR>places and give them new=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>=3D3D
> >> >>"Dimitrios"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> <<A href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:=
>musu=3D
> >>rgio=3D3D
> >> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>skrev i=3D3D3D20<BR>> melding <A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
>=3D3D
> >> >>
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><=
>BR>&=3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=3D3D
> >> >>><BR>&g</A>=3D3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have =3D3D
> >> >>managed=3D3D20
> >> >> is to =3D3D3D<BR>>have=3D3D3D20<BR>> the same start and end =
>for =3D3D
> >> >>both audio=3D3D20
> >> >> files<BR>> just by cutting at =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>cursor=3D3D3D20<BR>> pointy=3D3D20
> >> >> on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each =
>of=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>themhas=3D3D3D20<BR>> different cut points and =
>=3D3D
> >> >><BR>>=3D3D20
> >> >> joint<BR>> points , does this=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>matter?<BR>>=3D3D20
> >> >> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>actually=3D3D3D20<BR>> stereo but<BR>> two =3D3D
> >> >>takes of=3D3D20
> >> >> acoustic guitar playing so I had =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>tomove=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>different=3D3D20
> >> >> parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>make them=3D3D3D20<BR>> on time.<BR>> I want =3D3D
> >> >>a stereo=3D3D20
> >> >> effect because I wanna expand the =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>perspective=3D3D20
> >> >> of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and=3D3D20
> >> >> hard=3D3D3D20<BR>> right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks =3D3D
> >> >>compressor's=3D3D20
> >> >> stereo widening =3D3D3D<BR>>knob ??=3D3D3D20<BR>> !!<BR>> =
>=3D3D
> >> >>Amazing=3D3D20
> >> >> stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>not=3D3D20
> >> >> like=3D3D3D20<BR>> waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at=3D3D20
> >> >> all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio"=3D3D20
> >> >> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D3D=
>20'>ma=3D
> >>ilto:e=3D3D
> >> =
>>>nnio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D3D20</A><BR>>&n=3D3D
> >> >>bsp;=3D3D20
> >> >> wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides =3D3D
> >> >>of the=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>> file must be<BR>>=3D3D20
> >> >> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>sample=3D3D3D20<BR>> (the furthest down you can =
>go=3D3D20
> >> >> on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" =3D3D
> >> >><<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erli=
>lo@o=3D
> >>nlin=3D3D
> >> >>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> >> >> wrote in =3D3D3D<BR>>message <A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:=
>438f=3D
> >>4d36=3D3D
> >> >>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>Is it=3D3D3D20<BR>> exactly the same length on =
>each =3D3D
> >> >>stereo files=3D3D20
> >> >> or no different=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the=3D3D20
> >> >> stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> >>objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios"=3D3D20
> >> >> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:=
>musu=3D
> >>rgio=3D3D
> >> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> >> >> skrev i =3D3D3D<BR>>melding=3D3D3D20<BR>> <BR>>>>=3D3D20
> >> >> <A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> =3D
> =
>>>>>href=3D3D3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>=
>&g'>=3D
> >>=3D3D
> >> >>news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=3D3D
> >> >>;>&g</A>=3D3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have =3D3D
> >> >>almost=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>finished my=3D3D3D20<BR>> project mixing and when
=
>I =3D3D
> >> >>try to put a=3D3D20
> >> >> <BR>>>> >=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>stereo<BR>>>> >=3D3D20
> >> >> native<BR>>>> > effect on any=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>audio=3D3D3D20<BR>> track on any submix when I try
=
>to =3D3D
> >> >>save I=3D3D20
> >> >> always<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>get<BR>>>>=3D3D3D20<BR>> >=3D3D20
> >> >> assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>same name=3D3D3D20<BR>> or =3D3D
> >> >>other...<BR>>>> > The=3D3D20
> >> >> problem is that I want to use =3D3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>>
=
>=3D3D
> >> >>effects as I=3D3D20
> >> >> did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know=3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>why=3D3D3D20<BR>> Paris doesn't let =3D3D
> >> >>to...<BR>>>>=3D3D20
> >> >> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >> >>
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>=3D3D
> >> >>;>><BR>>><BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> >> >><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR>>=3D3D
> >> >><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> >><HTML><HEAD>
> >><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> >><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> >><STYLE></STYLE>
> >></HEAD>
> >><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I agree with Erlilo. Try =3D
> >>different channels=3D20
> >>or a different</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>submix if you can. Otherwise =
>=3D
> >>rebuilding the=3D20
> >>mix from</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>scratch in a new project is the
=
>next =3D
> >>best=3D20
> >>bet. Copy all</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>mixer settings and presets of =
>effects =3D
> >>to make it=3D20
> >>easier.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
=
>=3D
> >>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
>A>&g=3D
> >>t;=3D20
> >> wrote in message <A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D"news:43908331$1@linux">news:43908331$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>=
>Dimi=3D
> >>trios,=3D20
> >> You probably know this, but just to make sure...<BR>If you want to
=
>use
> > =3D
> >>stereo=3D20
> >> native plugins, you can NOT have any mono plugins<BR>on those =
>tracks.
> > =3D
> >>That=3D20
> >> goes for native and EDS.<BR>Do you have any mono eds or native =
>plugs =3D
> >>also on=3D20
> >> the stereo pair?<BR>Rod<BR>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=3D20
> >> wrote:<BR>><BR>>Dear Tom,<BR>>It is not the plugin under =3D
> >>other song I=3D20
> >> can open a stereo native effect.<BR>>In my project I cannot open =
>=3D
> >>ANY stereo=3D20
> >> effect.<BR>>Even chainer only...<BR>>I can save my project no =3D
> >>problem if=3D20
> >> I don't use a stereo native effect.<BR>>ALSO on submix 3 I managed
=
>=3D
> >>toopen a=3D20
> >> stereo native effect but not on submix<BR>>1 or 4 , any =
>suggestion=3D20
> >> ?<BR>>Regards,<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> >> =
>href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> >> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Dimitrios,<BR>>>Are =3D
> >>you saying=3D20
> >> you can save before this stereo plugin<BR>>>is inserted? =3D
> >>I'd say=3D20
> >> you may have a rouge plugin that<BR>>>your wrapper or Paris just =
>=3D
> >>doesn't=3D20
> >> like. Try the same thing<BR>>>in a different =3D
> >>project. ie:=3D20
> >> Same stereo plugin inserted<BR>>>on another stereo pair of =3D
> >>tracks. =3D20
> >> Now can you save?<BR>>>If so it may be your project. If =3D
> >>not it's=3D20
> >> probably your plugin.<BR>>><BR>>>Good=3D20
> >> luck,<BR>>>Tom<BR>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote
=
>in =3D
> >>message=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>news:43906b78$1@linux...<BR>>><BR>>> =3D
> >>Thanks for=3D20
> >> your suggestions.<BR>>> I have rendered using the hardware =3D
> >>method=3D20
> >> via adat and achieved one =3D3D<BR>>>nice<BR>>> =3D
> >>compact stereo=3D20
> >> track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved all=3D20
> >> audio<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>files<BR>>> on new folder and =3D
> >>saved=3D20
> >> under new name I used the clear missing =3D20
> >> files<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>just<BR>>> before that but =3D
> >>again no luck=3D20
> >> when I put a stereo native effect on =3D3D<BR>>>this=3D20
> >> stereotrack<BR>>> even without hitting play when I =3D
> >>try to=3D20
> >> save assertion fails and =3D3D<BR>>>doesn't<BR>>> =3D
> >>allow of any=3D20
> >> save !<BR>>> Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when =3D
> >>I hit=3D20
> >> SAve ...<BR>>> rEGARDS,<BR>>> =3D20
> >> dIMITRIOS<BR>>><BR>>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> >> =
>href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> >> wrote:<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> =3D
> >>
> >> >Dimitrios,<BR>>> >Rendering is your answer. =3D
> >>Don't=3D20
> >> render tracks with plugins. In =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >the right side=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
> >>>won't have=3D20
> >> any effect. Double check to see that their timing is=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>correct<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >too.<BR>>> >Some people have problems with=3D20
> >> that.<BR>>> >Tom<BR>>> > "erlilo" =3D
> >><<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in
=
>=3D
> >>message=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>news:43900b57$1@linux...<BR>>> > =3D
> >>There you=3D20
> >> have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and=3D20
> >> look<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >after=3D20
> >> that=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > each stereopair is starting =3D
> >>and ending=3D20
> >> at the same places will do<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>the<BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >job=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D
> >>when saving=3D20
> >> under a new name, just to be sure to go back if=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>something<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >are=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > going wrong again. If the =3D
> >>time=3D20
> >> alignments are going wrong in some<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>of =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >the=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > stereofiles, you can =3D
> >>rendering the=3D20
> >> old, hard way, as in version =3D
> >>2,<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >when=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > mixing down each =3D
> >>stereopair with=3D20
> >> panning hard left and right and =3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
> >>>muting=3D20
> >> all=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > other tracks. Then you can =3D
> >>import them=3D20
> >> into the project again on =3D3D<BR>>>their<BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >old=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D
> >>places and=3D20
> >> give them new names.<BR>>> ><BR>>> =3D
> >>> =3D20
> >> Erling<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> =3D
> >>
> >> > "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev
=
>i =3D
> >>melding=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>>> =3D
> >>
> >> > ><BR>>> > > =3D
> >>Hi,<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > > Thanks for your replies.<BR>>> > =3D
> >>>=3D20
> >> What I have managed is to have the same start and end for =
>both=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>audio<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >files<BR>>> > > just by cutting at cursor =3D
> >>pointy=3D20
> >> on both tracks.<BR>>> > > Buit insight the =3D
> >>stereo=3D20
> >> tracks each of themhas different cut =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>>points<BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >and=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D
> >>>=3D20
> >> joint<BR>>> > > points , does this=3D20
> >> matter?<BR>>> > > If you ask me why it is =3D
> >>because=3D20
> >> these tracks are not actually =3D3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >but<BR>>> > > two =3D
> >>takes of=3D20
> >> acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>parts<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >on=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > > each<BR>>> =3D
> >>
> >> > > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on =3D
> >>time.<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the =3D
> >>stereo=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>perspective<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >of=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > > them<BR>>> =3D
> >>
> >> > > pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening =3D
> >>knob ??=3D20
> >> !!<BR>>> > > Amazing stereo result with =3D
> >>complete mono=3D20
> >> compatibility , not like<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
> >>
> >> >waves=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > > =3D
> >>imager<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > > at all...<BR>>> > >=3D20
> >> Cheers,<BR>>> > > DImitrios<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > ><BR>>> > ><BR>>> =3D
> >>> =3D20
> >> > "Ennio" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20
> >> wrote:<BR>>> > >>The in-points (and =3D
> >>out-points) on=3D20
> >> both sides of the stereo file<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>must<BR>>> =3D
> >>
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >be<BR>>> > >=3D20
> >> at<BR>>> > >>the identical spot - down to =3D
> >>the=3D20
> >> sample (the furthest down you =3D3D<BR>>>can =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >go=3D20
> >> on<BR>>> > > the<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> >>zoom tool)<BR>>> > =3D
> >>>><BR>>> =3D20
> >> > >>"erlilo" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in
=
>=3D
> >>message=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>news:438f4d36@linux...<BR>>> > =3D
> >>>>>=3D20
> >> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>different<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >holes<BR>>> > >>in<BR>>> =3D
> >>> =3D20
> >> >>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> >>><BR>>> > >>>=3D20
> >> Erling<BR>>> > >>><BR>>> =3D
> >>> =3D20
> >> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> >> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev
=
>i=3D20
> >> melding=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > >>> <A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&n=3D=
>
> >>bsp;=3D20
> >> > >>> ><BR>>> > >>> =3D
> >>>=3D20
> >> Hi,<BR>>> > >>> > I have almost =3D
> >>finished my=3D20
> >> project mixing and when I try to =3D3D<BR>>>put =3D
> >>a<BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> ><BR>>> > >>> =3D
> >>>=3D20
> >> stereo<BR>>> > >>> > =3D
> >>native<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix =3D
> >>when I=3D20
> >> try to save I<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >always<BR>>> > > get<BR>>> =3D
> >>> =3D20
> >> >>> > assertion<BR>>> > >>> =3D
> >>>=3D20
> >> failed and cannot save either on same name or =3D
> >>other...<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo =3D
> >>effects=3D20
> >> as I did =3D3D<BR>>>before<BR>>> =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >but<BR>>> > >>don't<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > >>> > know why Paris doesn't let=3D20
> >> to...<BR>>> > >>> >=3D20
> >> Regards,<BR>>> > >>> >=3D20
> >> Dimitrios<BR>>> > >>><BR>>> =3D20
> >> > >>><BR>>> > =3D20
> >> >><BR>>> > >><BR>>> =3D
> >>> =3D20
> >> >=3D3D3D20<BR>>> ><BR>>> =3D
> >>><BR>>> =3D20
> >> ><BR>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =3D
> >>4.0=3D20
> >> Transitional//EN"><BR>>> =3D20
> >> ><HTML><HEAD><BR>>> ><META=3D20
> >> http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>>> ><META=3D20
> >> content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =3D
> >>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>>> =3D20
> >> ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>>> =3D20
> >> ></HEAD><BR>>> ><BODY=3D20
> >> bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> >> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> size=3D3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =3D20
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Rendering is =3D
> >>your answer.=3D20
> >> Don't<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >render=3D20
> >> tracks=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >with plugins. In stereo the right =3D
> >>side=3D20
> >> </FONT></DIV><BR>>> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> >> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
> >>>size=3D3D3D3D2>have=3D20
> >> any=3D3D3D20<BR>>> >effect. Double check to see that =3D
> >>their timing=3D20
> >> is correct =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >too.</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =3D
> >>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> >> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Some people have problems=3D20
> >> with<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >that.</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =3D
> >>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> >> face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >>size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =3D20
> >> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
> >>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D20
> >> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =3D
> >>5px;<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =3D
> >>0px"><BR>>> =3D20
> >> > <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D20'>mail=
>to:erl=3D
> >>ilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D20</A><BR>>>&n=3D
> >>bsp;=3D20
> >> > wrote in message <A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Ther=
>e'>n=3D
> >>ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=3D
> >>ere</A><BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >you have=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
> >>> the=3D20
> >> problem. I think rendering the tracks and look after that=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>><BR>each<BR>>> =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> ><BR>>> > stereopair is starting and ending at =3D
> >>the=3D20
> >> same places will do the =3D3D<BR>>>job =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> ><BR>when=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > saving under a =3D
> >>new name,=3D20
> >> just to be sure to go back if something =3D3D<BR>>>are =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> ><BR>going=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > wrong again. =3D
> >>If the time=3D20
> >> alignments are going wrong in some of =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>>the=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, =3D
> >>as in=3D20
> >> version<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>2,<BR>>> =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >when=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > <BR>mixing down =3D
> >>each=3D20
> >> stereopair with panning hard left and right =3D3D<BR>>>and=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >muting=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D
> >>all=3D20
> >> <BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the project=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>again<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >on=3D20
> >> their=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > old <BR>places and =3D
> >>give them new=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D
> >>>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>"Dimitr=3D
> >>ios"=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > <<A href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musu=
>rgio=3D
> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >skrev =3D
> >>i=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > melding <A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
>=3D
> >>g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=3D
> >>><BR>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >t;=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > Hi,<BR>> Thanks =3D
> >>for your=3D20
> >> replies.<BR>> What I have managed is to=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
> >>>have=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by =3D
> >>cutting=3D20
> >> at<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
> >>>cursor=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the =3D
> >>stereo tracks=3D20
> >> each of<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >themhas=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > different cut points =3D
> >>and=3D20
> >> <BR>> joint<BR>> points , does =3D
> >>this=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these =3D
> >>tracks=3D20
> >> are not<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >actually=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > stereo =3D
> >>but<BR>> two=3D20
> >> takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >tomove=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > different parts on =3D
> >><BR>>=3D20
> >> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
> >>>make=3D20
> >> them=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > on time.<BR>> I want =3D
> >>a stereo=3D20
> >> effect because I wanna expand the =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > perspective of =3D
> >><BR>>=3D20
> >> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and =3D
> >>hard=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's =3D
> >>stereo=3D20
> >> widening =3D3D3D<BR>>> >knob ??=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
> >>> =3D20
> >> !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono =3D
> >>compatibility ,=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >not =3D
> >>like=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at =3D
> >>all...<BR>>=3D20
> >> Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio"=3D20
> >> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D3D20'>=
>mailto=3D
> >>:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D3D20</A><BR>&g=3D
> >>t;> =3D20
> >> > wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on =3D
> >>both=3D20
> >> sides of the =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
> >>>stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the =3D
> >>identical spot -=3D20
> >> down to the =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
> >>>sample=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> (the furthest down you can go on<BR>>=3D20
> >> the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo"=3D20
> >> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@o=
>nlin=3D
> >>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=3D20
> >> wrote in<BR>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> >message=3D20
> >> <A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D
> >>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f=
>4d36=3D
> >>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >Is it=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D
> >>exactly the=3D20
> >> same length on each stereo files or no =3D
> >>different=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> > holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the=3D20
> >> stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> =3D
> >>objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D3D20<BR>>>&n=3D
> >>bsp;=3D20
> >> > Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> =3D
> >>"Dimitrios"=3D20
> >> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musu=
>rgio=3D
> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D20
> >> skrev<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>i =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >melding=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > <BR>>>> =3D
> >>
> >> <A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=3D=
>3D=3D
> >>3D'>news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>=3D
> >>;>>&g=3D3D3D</A>=3D3D<BR>>><BR>>> =3D20
> >> >t;=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > ><BR>>>> =3D
> >>>=3D20
> >> Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >finished my=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > project mixing and =3D
> >>when I=3D20
> >> try to put a <BR>>>> >=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
> >>> =3D20
> >> stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > =3D
> >>effect on=3D20
> >> any =3D3D3D<BR>>> >audio=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
> >>> track on=3D20
> >> any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >get<BR>>>>=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > > =3D
> >>
> >> assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >same name=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
> >>> or=3D20
> >> other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D
> >>effects as=3D20
> >> I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > =3D
> >>know=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >why=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D
> >>Paris doesn't=3D20
> >> let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>>=3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> >>=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D
> >>>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>&g=3D
> >>t;<BR>>><BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D20
> >> >=3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D20
> >> =3D
> >><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR>>=3D
> >>> =3D20
> >> ><BR>>> =3D
> >>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><!DOCTYPE=3D20
> >> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>Transitional//EN"><BR>>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>><=3D
> >>META=3D20
> >> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>>><META =3D
> >>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> >> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>>>=3D
> >></HEAD><BR>>><BODY=3D20
> >> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV>&=3D
> >>lt;FONT=3D20
> >> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Are you saying you can save =
>before=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>this<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>>>plugin</FONT ><=3D
> >>/DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> >> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>is inserted? I'd say you may have =
>=3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>>a=3D20
> >> rouge=3D3D20<BR>>>plugin=3D20
> >> that</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> size=3D3D3D2>your wrapper or Paris just doesn't =
>=3D3D<BR>>>like.=3D20
> >> Try=3D3D20<BR>>>the same=3D20
> >> thing</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> size=3D3D3D2>in a different project. ie: Same=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>>>plugin=3D20
> >> inserted</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> size=3D3D3D2>on another stereo pair of tracks. =3D3D<BR>>>Now can
=
>=3D
> >>
> >> =3D
> >>you=3D3D20<BR>>>save?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV>=3D
> >><FONT=3D20
> >> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>If so it may be your project. If =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>>not=3D20
> >> it's=3D3D20<BR>>>probably your=3D20
> >> plugin.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
> >></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> >> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Good=3D20
> >> luck,</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20=3D
> >><BR>>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D20
> >> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>>BORDER-LEFT:
=
>=3D
> >>#000000=3D20
> >> 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>>> =3D
> >><DIV>"Dimitrios"=3D20
> >> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musu=
>rgio=3D
> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D20
> >> wrote in =3D3D<BR>>>message=3D3D20<BR>>> <A=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>=
>Than=3D
> >>'>news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=3D
> >>;<BR>Than</A>=3D3D<BR>>>ks=3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware =3D
> >>method=3D20
> >> via<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>adat=3D3D20<BR>>> and achieved one =3D
> >>
> >> nice<BR>compact stereo track with my acoustic =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>>guitars, I=3D20
> >> even=3D3D20<BR>>> saved all audio files<BR>on new =3D
> >>folder and=3D20
> >> saved under new name I =3D
> >>used<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>>the=3D3D20<BR>>> clear=3D20
> >> missing files just<BR>before that but again no luck when I=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>put a=3D3D20<BR>>> stereo native effect on =3D
> >>this=3D20
> >> stereotrack<BR>even without hitting =3D3D<BR>>>play=3D20
> >> =3D3D20<BR>>> when I try to save assertion fails and=3D20
> >> doesn't<BR>allow of any save=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>!<BR>Note=3D3D20<BR>>> that assertion =3D
> >>failure=3D20
> >> appears ONLY when I hit SAve=3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> ...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom =3D
> >>Bruhl"=3D20
> >> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20'>=
>mailto=3D
> >>:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>&g=3D
> >>t;> =3D20
> >> =3D
> >>wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>R=3D
> >>endering=3D20
> >> is your=3D3D20<BR>>> answer. Don't render tracks with =3D
> >>plugins.=3D20
> >> In=3D3D20<BR>>> stereo<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the right =3D
> >>
> >> side=3D3D3D20<BR>>won't have any =3D3D<BR>>>effect.=3D20
> >> =3D3D20<BR>>> Double check to see that their timing is=3D20
> >> =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>>correct<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>too.<BR>>Some=3D
> >>=3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>> =3D
> >>"erlilo"=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>><<A=3D3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@o=
>nlin=3D
> >>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=3D20
> >> wrote in =3D3D<BR>>>message <A=3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> >> =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR'>news:=
>4390=3D
> >>0b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>> There=3D3D20<BR>>> you have the problem. I =3D
> >>think=3D20
> >> rendering the tracks and look=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D<BR>>after=3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> that=3D3D3D20<BR>> each stereopair is starting and ending at =3D
> >>the=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>same=3D3D20<BR>>> places will do=3D20
> >> the<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>job=3D3D3D20<BR>> when saving=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>under a new=3D3D20<BR>>> name, just to be =3D
> >>sure to go back=3D20
> >> if =3D
> >>=3D3D<BR>>>something<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D3D20<BR >=3D
> >>>=3D20
> >> =3D3D20<BR>>> going wrong again. If the time alignments are =3D
> >>going=3D20
> >> wrong in some of=3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> >> stereofiles, you can rendering the =3D3D<BR>>>old, =3D
> >>hard=3D3D20<BR>>> =3D20
> >> way, as in version 2, =3D3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >>mixing down=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>each=3D3D20<BR>>> stereopair with panning =3D
> >>hard left and=3D20
> >> right and =3D3D3D<BR>>muting=3D3D20<BR>>> =3D
> >>all=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> >> other tracks. Then you can import them into the=3D20
> >> =3D3D<BR>>>project=3D3D20<BR>>> again on=3D20Have you tried to lowcut the mic around 100Hz and just use it as is?
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> skrev i en meddelelse news:43907b92@linux...
> Unfortunately the bleed is so loud and his voice level so inconsistant
> that using a gate is not usefull.
>
> I have basically decided to automate a 8 db ramp up to and down from the
> vocal sections and then copy and paste through the songs...quick simple
> and a pain in the ass.
>
>
> Don
>
>
> "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> news:4390784b$1@linux...
>>A gate with key filtering would do this. Set the key filters so the gate
>>only opens with vocal content, then set the range to a fairly small
>>amount. This means that the gate does not close completely, but only dips
>>the level down a few db when the person stops singing.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> Dumb Q time...
>>>
>>> I've got a little side project from a friend, nothing fancy just a quick
>>> mix of his band's live show but I don't want to spend any more time than
>>> is necessary on this thing.
>>>
>>> My question has to do with reducing the level of the the lead vocal mic
>>> when it's not in use.
>>>
>>> Normally I would just drop the fader 3db or so on that mic when it's not
>>> in use but I started wondering if there is a plug in i.e. an expander or
>>> ducker for example (never having used either of these beasts) that might
>>> do this automatically.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> Don
>
>I love that new house feeling...almost like a new romance in someways...
kudos on all you've done for us here in the newsgroup.
jef
Kim wrote:
>I've been in the new place over a month now, and it does take some time before
>moves settle in, but let me put a couple of things in perspective...
>
>For all you non-Melnbournites... which is the vast majority of you, I used
>to live in Glen Waverley. Glen Waverley is, according to my "Melways" directory,
>about 20km from the city centre of Melbourne Australia. Honestly I thought
>it was further than that before I went for the actual number from the book.
>Suffice to say I was a fair way out...
>
>As I look at the book now and see the numbers, I'm currently, in my new place,
>and the new NG home (with the server now in, oddly enough, my kitchen ;o),
>just inside the 5km circle. What's more, I'm north of the city, and the greater
>percentage of the band scene is north of the city here in Melbourne. Not
>all that much happens in the CBD itself. In Melbourne things are centred
>around the inner suburbs, which is where I haven't been, but now am... ;o)
>
>Tonight I caught a bus a fraction west, to one of the many epecentres of
>Melbounre music, Brunswick, and saw a guy from work play his first ever
>original gig at the Brunswick Hotel. It cost me $3.10, maybe $2 U.S. return.
>At my last place a taxi home only would be probably $60aus from this venue.
>I've already caught the local tram twice to various events. The tram heads
>south to the city. Tonight was the first time I caught the west bound bus.
>South and west are pretty much the only directions I need to go ;o). East
>are cover bands ;oP. North are people who don't care about music. ;o) The
>furthest music venues from me now are in St Kilda, which is south of the
>city, and on the bay/beach, but still in the 5km radius. A taxi from there
>would still be far cheaper than it was to my last place, and most of the
>time I would be able to catch a tram or two or something...
>
>It is, as they say, all good. ;o)
>
>The only bad thing I have noted, apart from my studio not having space for
>an actual band anymore, is that the power here seems to be 5 volts higher
>and hence my UPS for the NG server keeps clicking and complaining, and the
>server has actually hung twice (shhhh... don't tell anyone, nobody has noticed...
>;o) but the good news is my brother has found the software for the UPS (yes
>Rick he's done something good! ;o) and I may be able to correct the issues
>without undue expense...
>
>My point is, though, that I've moved from a boring outer suburb into a fantastic
>inner suburb, and it ROCKS!! I haven't even told you about the great Indian
>and Tibetan food I've discovered!!!
>
>Honestly, I'm lovin it.
>
>I was just realising earlier...
>
>Over the last ten to fifteen years, I've changed from some dude who liked
>the typical local beer and commerial music, to someone who has taste in food,
>music, beer, whatever. At no particular point I made a choice, and this new
>home is, largely, the culmination of that journey.
>
>It's great to be able to choose what to play, what not to play, what to watch,
>etc, without having to answer to anyone.
>
>Tomorrow I'm going down to the RRR BBQ. RRR being one of the local community
>subscriber radio stations to which I subscribe (and love). I can catch the
>bus for $3.10 again. At my last place I would have stayed at home and heard
>it over the radio... now will be there in person.
>
>I so much feel like I'm in the middle. In fact, I finally am.
>
>And, sorry Martin ;o), but Melbourne really is the cultural centre of Australia.
>;o) It's so good to be in close to the place where everything's happening.
>
>This has been a long long post... ;o)
>
>But gee, I'm so happy with my decision.
>
>Now I just need to buy a place in here. ;o)
>
>There's still some tweakin to do to get the NG running perfectly in the new
>place. It's getting there though. It's only hung twice. ;o) If we go offline
>you know why. ;o)
>
>I'll buy a new UPS if I need to. It's all worth it.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>I just found this out......important if your doing phase consistant stuff
between eds cards (like copying a track and adding compression to the copy)
soloing adds 1 sample latency.
So...don't use solo for checking this. mute other tracks instead.
Rod"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Kim, what's the software thingy for the UPS.
Somebody here suggested that the clicking of the UPS may be the over voltage
protection clicking in and out, and that it's possible that in the software
for the UPS I may be able to adjust the voltage at which the UPS applies
this voltage protection, hence allowing me to reduce the switching.
I haven't tried it yet of course, but I'm hopeful.
Cheers,
Kim.
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I've been in the new place over a month now, and it does take some time
>before
>>moves settle in, but let me put a couple of things in perspective...
>>
>>For all you non-Melnbournites... which is the vast majority of you, I
used
>>to live in Glen Waverley. Glen Waverley is, according to my "Melways" directory,
>>about 20km from the city centre of Melbourne Australia. Honestly I thought
>>it was further than that before I went for the actual number from the book.
>>Suffice to say I was a fair way out...
>>
>>As I look at the book now and see the numbers, I'm currently, in my new
>place,
>>and the new NG home (with the server now in, oddly enough, my kitchen ;o),
>>just inside the 5km circle. What's more, I'm north of the city, and the
>greater
>>percentage of the band scene is north of the city here in Melbourne. Not
>>all that much happens in the CBD itself. In Melbourne things are centred
>>around the inner suburbs, which is where I haven't been, but now am...
;o)
>>
>>Tonight I caught a bus a fraction west, to one of the many epecentres of
>>Melbounre music, Brunswick, and saw a guy from work play his first ever
>>original gig at the Brunswick Hotel. It cost me $3.10, maybe $2 U.S. return.
>>At my last place a taxi home only would be probably $60aus from this venue.
>>I've already caught the local tram twice to various events. The tram heads
>>south to the city. Tonight was the first time I caught the west bound bus.
>>South and west are pretty much the only directions I need to go ;o). East
>>are cover bands ;oP. North are people who don't care about music. ;o) The
>>furthest music venues from me now are in St Kilda, which is south of the
>>city, and on the bay/beach, but still in the 5km radius. A taxi from there
>>would still be far cheaper than it was to my last place, and most of the
>>time I would be able to catch a tram or two or something...
>>
>>It is, as they say, all good. ;o)
>>
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| Re: Bizzare_assertion_fail_problem_any_insight? [message #60940 is a reply to message #60894] |
Sun, 04 December 2005 20:55 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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Senior Member |
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|
I have rendered using the hardware method via adat and =3D
>achieved =3D3D
> >>one =3D3D3D
> >> >>nice
> >> >> compact stereo track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved =
=3D
>all =3D3D
> >>audio
> >> >=3D3D3D
> >> >>files
> >> >> on new folder and saved under new name I used the clear =3D
>missing =3D3D
> >>files
> >> >=3D3D3D
> >> >>just
> >> >> before that but again no luck when I put a stereo native =
=3D
>effect on
> > =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>this stereotrack
> >> >> even without hitting play when I try to save assertion =
fails
=3D
>and
> > =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>doesn't
> >> >> allow of any save !
> >> >> Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve =
....
> >> >> rEGARDS,
> >> >> dIMITRIOS
> >> >>
> >> >> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Dimitrios,
> >> >> >Rendering is your answer. Don't render tracks with =
plugins.
=3D
>In
> > =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>stereo
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >the right side=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> >won't have any effect. Double check to see that their =
timing
=3D
>is
> > =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>correct
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >too.
> >> >> >Some people have problems with that.
> >> >> >Tom
> >> >> > "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =3D3D3D
> >> >>news:43900b57$1@linux...
> >> >> > There you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks =
=3D
>and =3D3D
> >>look
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >after that=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > each stereopair is starting and ending at the same =
places =3D
>will
> > =3D3D
> >>do
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >>the
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >job=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > when saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back =
if
=3D
>=3D3D3D
> >> >>something
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >are=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > going wrong again. If the time alignments are going =
wrong =3D
>in =3D3D
> >>some
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >>of =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in =
=3D
>version
> > =3D3D
> >>2,
> >> >=3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >when=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and =
=3D
>right =3D3D
> >>and =3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >muting all=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > other tracks. Then you can import them into the project =
=3D
>again =3D3D
> >>on =3D3D3D
> >> >>their
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >old=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > places and give them new names.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Erling
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding =
=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >news:439000f1$1@linux...
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Hi,
> >> >> > > Thanks for your replies.
> >> >> > > What I have managed is to have the same start and end =
for
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>both =3D3D3D
> >> >>audio
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >files
> >> >> > > just by cutting at cursor pointy on both tracks.
> >> >> > > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of themhas =
different
=3D
>cut
> > =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>points
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >and=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > > joint
> >> >> > > points , does this matter?
> >> >> > > If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not =
=3D
>actually
> > =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>stereo
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >but
> >> >> > > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove =
=3D3D
> >>different =3D3D3D
> >> >>parts
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >on=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > > each
> >> >> > > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on time.
> >> >> > > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the =
stereo
=3D
>=3D3D3D
> >> >>perspective
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >of=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > > them
> >> >> > > pl;aying hard left and hard right.
> >> >> > > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening =
knob
=3D
>?? =3D3D
> >>!!
> >> >> > > Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility =
,
=3D
>not
> > =3D3D
> >>like
> >> >=3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >waves=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > > imager
> >> >> > > at all...
> >> >> > > Cheers,
> >> >> > > DImitrios
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "Ennio" <ennio@galicorp.net> wrote:
> >> >> > >>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the =
=3D
>stereo =3D3D
> >>file
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >>must
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >be
> >> >> > > at
> >> >> > >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest =
=3D
>down =3D3D
> >>you =3D3D3D
> >> >>can =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >go on
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > >>zoom tool)
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =3D3D3D
> >> >>news:438f4d36@linux...
> >> >> > >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files =
or =3D
>no =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>different
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >holes
> >> >> > >>in
> >> >> > >>> any of the stereo objects?
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Erling
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i =3D
>melding=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > >>> news:438f3760$1@linux...
> >> >> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>> > Hi,
> >> >> > >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when =
I =3D
>try =3D3D
> >>to =3D3D3D
> >> >>put a
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >>> > stereo
> >> >> > >>> > native
> >> >> > >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix when I try =
to
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>save I
> >> >=3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >always
> >> >> > > get
> >> >> > >>> > assertion
> >> >> > >>> > failed and cannot save either on same name or =3D
>other...
> >> >> > >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects =
as I
=3D
>did
> > =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>before
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >but
> >> >> > >>don't
> >> >> > >>> > know why Paris doesn't let to...
> >> >> > >>> > Regards,
> >> >> > >>> > Dimitrios
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =3D
>Transitional//EN">
> >> >> ><HTML><HEAD>
> >> >> ><META http-equiv=3D3D3D3D3DContent-Type =3D
>content=3D3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >charset=3D3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> >> >> ><META content=3D3D3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =3D
>name=3D3D3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> >> >> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> >> >> ></HEAD>
> >> >> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D3D#ffffff>
> >> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
> >> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>Rendering =
is =3D
>your =3D3D
> >>answer. Don't
> >> >=3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >render tracks=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> >with plugins. In stereo the right side </FONT></DIV>
> >> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>won't =3D
></FONT><FONT =3D3D3D
> >> >>face=3D3D3D3D3DArial =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >size=3D3D3D3D3D2>have any=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> >effect. Double check to see that their timing is correct =
=3D
>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >too.</FONT></DIV>
> >> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>Some =
people have
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>problems with
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >that.</FONT></DIV>
> >> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> >> >> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> >style=3D3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>MARGIN-LEFT:
> > =3D3D
> >>5px;
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >> >> > <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D3D=
20
> >> >> > wrote in message <A=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =3D3D3D
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<=
/DI=3D
>V>Th=3D3D
> >>ere
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >you have=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look after =
=3D
>that =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >><BR>each
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >
> >> >> > stereopair is starting and ending at the same places =
will =3D
>do =3D3D
> >>the =3D3D3D
> >> >>job =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> ><BR>when=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if =
=3D3D
> >>something =3D3D3D
> >> >>are =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> ><BR>going=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in =
some
=3D
>of
> > =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>the=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as =
in
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>version
> >> >=3D3D3D
> >> >>2,
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >when=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > <BR>mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left =
and
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>right =3D3D3D
> >> >>and =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >muting=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > all <BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the =
=3D
>project
> > =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>again
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >on their=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > old <BR>places and give them new =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>"Dimitrios"=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > <<A =3D3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =3D
>=3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >skrev i=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > melding <A=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D3D"news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...=
<BR=3D
>>><B=3D3D
> >>R>&g=3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >t;=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have =
managed
=3D
>is =3D3D
> >>to =3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >have=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by =
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>cutting at
> >> >=3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >cursor=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo =
tracks
=3D
>each
> > =3D3D
> >>of
> >> >=3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >themhas=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > different cut points and <BR>> joint<BR>> points , does =
=3D3D
> >>this=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these =
tracks =3D
>are =3D3D
> >>not
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >actually=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > stereo but<BR>> two takes of acoustic guitar playing so =
I =3D
>had =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >tomove=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > different parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" =
tracks =3D
>to =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >make them=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > on time.<BR>> I want a stereo effect because I wanna =
expand
=3D
>the
> > =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >stereo=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > perspective of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and =
=3D3D
> >>hard=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo =
=3D
>widening
> > =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >knob ??=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono =3D
>compatibility
> > =3D3D
> >>, =3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >not like=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at all...<BR>> =3D
>Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio" <<A=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3=
D3D3D=3D
>20
> >> >> > wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides =
of
=3D
>the
> > =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >stereo=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to =
the
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >sample=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > (the furthest down you can go on<BR>> =3D
>the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" <<A=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =3D
>href=3D3D3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> =3D3D
> >>wrote in
> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >message <A=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>>href=3D3D3D3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>>>=
>
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >Is it=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > exactly the same length on each stereo files or no =3D3D
> >>different=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the stereo=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =3D
>href=3D3D3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>
> > =3D3D
> >>skrev
> >> >=3D3D3D
> >> >>i =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >melding=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > <BR>>>> <A=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...=
<BR=3D
>>>>&=3D3D
> >>g=3D3D3D3D=3D3D3D
> >> >>
> >> >> >t;=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >finished my=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > project mixing and when I try to put a <BR>>>> =
>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > effect on any =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >audio=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > track on any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =3D
>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >get<BR>>>>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > > assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on =
=3D
>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >same name=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > or other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use =
=3D
>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >stereo=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > effects as I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know =3D
>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >why=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > Paris doesn't let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>> =
=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >>=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > =3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>=3D3D3D3D
> >> >> >=3D3D3D3D20
> >> >> > <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> >> >><HTML><HEAD>
> >> >><META http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
>=3D3D3D
> >> >>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> >> >><META content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =3D
>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> >> >><STYLE></STYLE>
> >> >></HEAD>
> >> >><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Are you saying =
you can
=3D
>save =3D3D
> >>before this
> >> >=3D3D3D
> >> >>stereo=3D3D3D20
> >> >>plugin</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>is inserted? I'd =
say =3D
>you may =3D3D
> >>have =3D3D3D
> >> >>a rouge=3D3D3D20
> >> >>plugin that</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>your wrapper or =
Paris =3D
>just =3D3D
> >>doesn't =3D3D3D
> >> >>like. Try=3D3D3D20
> >> >>the same thing</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in a different =
project.
=3D
>ie: =3D3D
> >>Same =3D3D3D
> >> >>stereo=3D3D3D20
> >> >>plugin inserted</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>on another =
stereo pair
=3D
>of =3D3D
> >>tracks. =3D3D3D
> >> >>Now can you=3D3D3D20
> >> >>save?</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>If so it may be =
your =3D
>project. =3D3D
> >>If =3D3D3D
> >> >>not it's=3D3D3D20
> >> >>probably your plugin.</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Good =
luck,</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> >> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D3D20
> >> >>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT:
=3D
>5px;
> > =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >> >> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =
href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>
=3D
>wrote
> > =3D3D
> >>in =3D3D3D
> >> >>message=3D3D3D20
> >> >> <A =3D3D3D
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D"news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</D=
IV>=3D
><BR>=3D3D
> >>Than=3D3D3D
> >> >>ks=3D3D3D20
> >> >> for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware =
=3D
>method
> > =3D3D
> >>via
> >> >=3D3D3D
> >> >>adat=3D3D3D20
> >> >> and achieved one nice<BR>compact stereo track with my =
acoustic
=3D
>=3D3D3D
> >> >>guitars, I even=3D3D3D20
> >> >> saved all audio files<BR>on new folder and saved under new =
=3D
>name I
> > =3D3D
> >>used
> >> >=3D3D3D
> >> >>the=3D3D3D20
> >> >> clear missing files just<BR>before that but again no luck =
when
=3D
>I =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>put a=3D3D3D20
> >> >> stereo native effect on this stereotrack<BR>even without =
=3D
>hitting =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>play =3D3D3D20
> >> >> when I try to save assertion fails and doesn't<BR>allow of =
any
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>save =3D3D3D
> >> >>!<BR>Note=3D3D3D20
> >> >> that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit =
SAve=3D3D3D20
> >> >> ...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3=
D3D20=3D
>
> >> >> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>Rendering is =
your=3D3D3D20
> >> >> answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In=3D3D3D20
> >> >> stereo<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>the right side=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>won't =
have =3D
>any =3D3D3D
> >> >>effect. =3D3D3D20
> >> >> Double check to see that their timing is =3D3D3D
> >> >>correct<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>too.<BR>>Some=3D3D3D20
> >> >> people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>> "erlilo" =
=3D3D3D
> >> >><<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =
href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> =3D
>wrote in
> > =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>message <A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >> There=3D3D3D20
> >> >> you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =
=3D
>=3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>after=3D3D3D20
> >> >> that=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> each stereopair is starting and ending =
at =3D
>the =3D3D3D
> >> >>same=3D3D3D20
> >> >> places will do the<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>job=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =
when =3D
>saving =3D3D3D
> >> >>under a new=3D3D3D20
> >> >> name, just to be sure to go back if =3D3D3D
> >> >>something<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong =
in =3D
>some
> > =3D3D
> >>of=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> stereofiles, you can =
rendering =3D
>the =3D3D3D
> >> >>old, hard=3D3D3D20
> >> >> way, as in version 2, =3D3D3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =
mixing =3D
>down =3D3D3D
> >> >>each=3D3D3D20
> >> >> stereopair with panning hard left and right and =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>muting=3D3D3D20
> >> >> all=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> other tracks. Then you can import them =
into
=3D
>the =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>project=3D3D3D20
> >> >> again on their<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>old=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> places =
and =3D
>give =3D3D3D
> >> >>them new=3D3D3D20
> >> >> names.<BR>><BR>> Erling<BR>><BR>><BR>> =3D3D3D
> >> >>"Dimitrios"=3D3D3D20
> >> >> <<A =3D
>href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
=3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>skrev i=3D3D3D20
> >> >> melding =3D3D3D3D<BR>>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>> =3D3D3D
> >> >>><BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> > Hi,<BR>> > Thanks for your replies.<BR>> =3D3D3D
> >> >>> What I=3D3D3D20
> >> >> have managed is to have the same start and end for =
both=3D3D3D20
> >> >> audio<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>files<BR>> > just by cutting at =
cursor =3D
>=3D3D3D
> >> >>pointy on=3D3D3D20
> >> >> both tracks.<BR>> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =
=3D
>=3D3D3D
> >> >>themhas=3D3D3D20
> >> >> different cut points<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
=3D3D3D
> >> >>joint<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> > points , does this matter?<BR>> > If you ask me why =
=3D3D3D
> >> >>it is=3D3D3D20
> >> >> because these tracks are not actually =3D3D3D
> >> >>stereo<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>but<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove =
=3D3D
> >>different=3D3D3D20
> >> >> parts<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>on=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> > each<BR>> > =
=3D3D3D
> >> >>of the=3D3D3D20
> >> >> "stereo" tracks to make them on time.<BR>> > I want a =
=3D3D3D
> >> >>stereo=3D3D3D20
> >> >> effect because I wanna expand the stereo=3D3D3D20
> >> >> perspective<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>of=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D3D
> >> >>them<BR>> >=3D3D3D20
> >> >> pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>> > Have you tried =
=3D3D3D
> >> >>T-racks=3D3D3D20
> >> >> compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!<BR>> > Amazing =
=3D3D3D
> >> >>stereo=3D3D3D20
> >> >> result with complete mono compatibility , not like=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>waves=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> > imager<BR>> > =
at=3D3D3D20
> >> >> all...<BR>> > Cheers,<BR>> > =3D3D3D
> >> >>DImitrios<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> ><BR>> ><BR>> > "Ennio" <<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D
=
>href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D3D2=
0
> >> >> wrote:<BR>> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both =
=3D3D3D
> >> >>sides of=3D3D3D20
> >> >> the stereo file must<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>be<BR>> > =3D3D3D
> >> >>at<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest =
down =3D
>you =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>can=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>go on<BR>> > the<BR>> >>zoom=3D3D3D20
> >> >> tool)<BR>> >><BR>> >>"erlilo" <<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =
href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> =3D
>wrote in
> > =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>message <A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D
>href=3D3D3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or =
=3D
>no=3D3D3D20
> >> >> different<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>holes<BR>> >>in<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> >>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> >>><BR>> >>> Erling<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> >>><BR>> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =
href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>
=3D
>skrev
> > =3D3D
> >>i=3D3D3D20
> >> >> melding=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> >>> <A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> >>> ><BR>> >>> > Hi,<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I =
=3D
>=3D3D3D
> >> >>try to=3D3D3D20
> >> >> put a<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> >>> > =3D3D3D
> >> >>stereo<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> >>> > native<BR>> >>> > effect on any =3D3D3D
> >> >>audio=3D3D3D20
> >> >> track on any submix when I try to save I =3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>always<BR>> >=3D3D3D20
> >> >> get<BR>> >>> > assertion<BR>> =3D3D3D
> >> >>>>> >=3D3D3D20
> >> >> failed and cannot save either on same name or other...<BR>> =
=3D
>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as =
=3D
>=3D3D3D
> >> >>I did=3D3D3D20
> >> >> before<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>but<BR>> >>don't<BR>> =3D3D3D
> >> >>>>>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > know why Paris doesn't let to...<BR>> >>> >=3D3D3D20
> >> >> Regards,<BR>> >>> > Dimitrios<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> =3D3D3D
> >> >>>><BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> >><BR>> =3D3D3D
> >> >>>=3D3D3D3D20<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=3D3D3D20
> >> >> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D3D3D20
> >> >> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D3D3D20
> >> >> http-equiv=3D3D3D3D3DContent-Type =3D
>content=3D3D3D3D3D"text/html;=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
=3D3D3D
> >> >>content=3D3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D3D20
> >> >> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> =
>>name=3D3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D3D3D
> >> >>D><BR>><BODY=3D3D3D20
> >> >> bgColor=3D3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >>size=3D3D3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=3D3D3D
> >> >>ONT=3D3D3D20
> >> >> face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>Rendering is your =
answer. =3D
>Don't =3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>render=3D3D3D20
> >> >> tracks=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>with plugins. In stereo the right =3D
>side=3D3D3D20
> >> >> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20
> >> >> size=3D3D3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial =
=3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D3D2>have=3D3D3D20
> >> >> any=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>effect. Double check to see that their =
timing
=3D
>is =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>correct=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D3D3D
> >> >>face=3D3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20
> >> >> size=3D3D3D3D3D2>Some people have problems with=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>that.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D3D20
> >> >> face=3D3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> =3D
=
>>>size=3D3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D3D3D20 <BR>=3D3D3=
D
> >> >>>style=3D3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D3D3D20
> >> >> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> >>#000000 2px=3D3D3D20
> >> >> solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"erlilo" =3D3D3D
> >> >><<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D3=
D20'>=3D
>mailto=3D3D
> >>:erlil=3D3D3D
> >> >>o@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D3D20</A><BR>> =
=3D3D3D20
> >> >> wrote in message <A=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =
href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</D=
IV>=3D
>Ther=3D3D
> >>e'>n=3D3D3D
> >> =
>>ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=3D3D3D
> >> >>ere</A><BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>you=3D3D3D20
> >> >> have=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> the problem. I think rendering the =
tracks =3D
>and =3D3D3D
> >> >>look after=3D3D3D20
> >> >> that <BR>each<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> stereopair is =3D3D3D
> >> >>starting and=3D3D3D20
> >> >> ending at the same places will do the job=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>><BR>when=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> saving under a new =
name, =3D
>=3D3D3D
> >> >>just to be=3D3D3D20
> >> >> sure to go back if something are =3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>><BR>going=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some =
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>of=3D3D3D20
> >> >> the=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the =
=3D3D3D
> >> >>old, hard=3D3D3D20
> >> >> way, as in version 2,<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D3D
> >> >><BR>mixing down=3D3D3D20
> >> >> each stereopair with panning hard left and right =
and=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>muting=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> all <BR>other tracks. =
Then =3D
>=3D3D3D
> >> >>you can=3D3D3D20
> >> >> import them into the project again<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>on =
=3D3D3D
> >> >>their=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> old=3D3D3D20
> >> >> <BR>places and give them new=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>=3D3D3D
> >> >>"Dimitrios"=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> <<A href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mail=
to:=3D
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> >>rgio=3D3D3D
> >> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>skrev i=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> melding =
<A=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>=3D3D3D
> >> >>
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR=
>><=3D
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> >>=3D3D3D
> >> =
>>g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=3D3D3D
> >> >>><BR>&g</A>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have =3D3D3D
> >> >>managed=3D3D3D20
> >> >> is to =3D3D3D3D<BR>>have=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> the same start and =
end =3D
>for =3D3D3D
> >> >>both audio=3D3D3D20
> >> >> files<BR>> just by cutting at =3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>cursor=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> pointy=3D3D3D20
> >> >> on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each =
=3D
>of=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>themhas=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> different cut points =
and =3D
>=3D3D3D
> >> >><BR>>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> joint<BR>> points , does this=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D
> >> >>matter?<BR>>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are =
not=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>actually=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> stereo but<BR>> two =
=3D3D3D
> >> >>takes of=3D3D3D20
> >> >> acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D
>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>tomove=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D
> >> >>different=3D3D3D20
> >> >> parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>make them=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> on time.<BR>> I =
want =3D3D3D
> >> >>a stereo=3D3D3D20
> >> >> effect because I wanna expand the =3D
>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D
> >> >>perspective=3D3D3D20
> >> >> of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and=3D3D3D20
> >> >> hard=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks =
=3D3D3D
> >> >>compressor's=3D3D3D20
> >> >> stereo widening =3D3D3D3D<BR>>knob ??=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =
!!<BR>> =3D
>=3D3D3D
> >> >>Amazing=3D3D3D20
> >> >> stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>not=3D3D3D20
> >> >> like=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at=3D3D3D20
> >> >> all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio"=3D3D3D20
> >> >> <<A=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3=
D3D3D=3D
>20'>ma=3D3D
> >>ilto:e=3D3D3D
> >> =3D
=
>>>nnio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D3D3D20</A><BR>>&n=3D3D3=
D
> >> >>bsp;=3D3D3D20
> >> >> wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides =
=3D3D3D
> >> >>of the=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> file must =
be<BR>>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>sample=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> (the furthest down you =
can =3D
>go=3D3D3D20
> >> >> on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" =3D3D3D
> >> >><<A=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:e=
rli=3D
>lo@o=3D3D
> >>nlin=3D3D3D
> >> >>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> wrote in =3D3D3D3D<BR>>message <A=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>ne=
ws:=3D
>438f=3D3D
> >>4d36=3D3D3D
> >> >>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>Is it=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> exactly the same length =
on =3D
>each =3D3D3D
> >> >>stereo files=3D3D3D20
> >> >> or no different=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the=3D3D3D20
> >> >> stereo=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >>objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios"=3D3D3D20
> >> >> <<A=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mail=
to:=3D
>musu=3D3D
> >>rgio=3D3D3D
> >> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> skrev i =3D3D3D3D<BR>>melding=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =
<BR>>>>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> <A=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR=
>>>=3D
>&g'>=3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D
> >> =
>>news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=3D3D3D
> >> >>;>&g</A>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have =3D3D3D
> >> >>almost=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>finished my=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> project mixing =
and when
=3D
>I =3D3D3D
> >> >>try to put a=3D3D3D20
> >> >> <BR>>>> >=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D
> >> >>stereo<BR>>>> >=3D3D3D20
> >> >> native<BR>>>> > effect on any=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>audio=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> track on any submix =
when I try
=3D
>to =3D3D3D
> >> >>save I=3D3D3D20
> >> >> always<BR>> =3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>get<BR>>>>=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> >=3D3D3D20
> >> >> assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either =
on=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>same name=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> or =3D3D3D
> >> >>other...<BR>>>> > The=3D3D3D20
> >> >> problem is that I want to use =
=3D3D3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>
=3D
>=3D3D3D
> >> >>effects as I=3D3D3D20
> >> >> did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know=3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>why=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> Paris doesn't let =3D3D3D
> >> >>to...<BR>>>>=3D3D3D20
> >> >> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D
> >> >>
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>=3D3D3D
> >> >>;>><BR>>><BR>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> >> >> =3D3D3D
> >> >><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR>>=3D3D3D
> >> >><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> >><HTML><HEAD>
> >><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
=3D3D
> >>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> >><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> >><STYLE></STYLE>
> >></HEAD>
> >><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I agree with Erlilo. Try =
=3D3D
> >>different channels=3D3D20
> >>or a different</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>submix if you can. =
Otherwise =3D
>=3D3D
> >>rebuilding the=3D3D20
> >>mix from</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>scratch in a new project =
is the
=3D
>next =3D3D
> >>best=3D3D20
> >>bet. Copy all</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>mixer settings and =
presets of =3D
>effects =3D3D
> >>to make it=3D3D20
> >>easier.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> >>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px;
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</=3D
>A>&g=3D3D
> >>t;=3D3D20
> >> wrote in message <A=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D"news:43908331$1@linux">news:43908331$1@linux</A>...</DIV><=
BR>=3D
>Dimi=3D3D
> >>trios,=3D3D20
> >> You probably know this, but just to make sure...<BR>If you want =
to
=3D
>use
> > =3D3D
> >>stereo=3D3D20
> >> native plugins, you can NOT have any mono plugins<BR>on those =
=3D
>tracks.
> > =3D3D
> >>That=3D3D20
> >> goes for native and EDS.<BR>Do you have any mono eds or native =
=3D
>plugs =3D3D
> >>also on=3D3D20
> >> the stereo pair?<BR>Rod<BR>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20
> >> =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=3D3D20
> >> wrote:<BR>><BR>>Dear Tom,<BR>>It is not the plugin under =3D3D
> >>other song I=3D3D20
> >> can open a stereo native effect.<BR>>In my project I cannot =
open =3D
>=3D3D
> >>ANY stereo=3D3D20
> >> effect.<BR>>Even chainer only...<BR>>I can save my project no =
=3D3D
> >>problem if=3D3D20
> >> I don't use a stereo native effect.<BR>>ALSO on submix 3 I =
managed
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>toopen a=3D3D20
> >> stereo native effect but not on submix<BR>>1 or 4 , any =3D
>suggestion=3D3D20
> >> ?<BR>>Regards,<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> >> =3D
=
>href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20
> >> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Dimitrios,<BR>>>Are =3D3D
> >>you saying=3D3D20
> >> you can save before this stereo plugin<BR>>>is inserted? =3D3D
> >>I'd say=3D3D20
> >> you may have a rouge plugin that<BR>>>your wrapper or Paris =
just =3D
>=3D3D
> >>doesn't=3D3D20
> >> like. Try the same thing<BR>>>in a different =3D3D
> >>project. ie:=3D3D20
> >> Same stereo plugin inserted<BR>>>on another stereo pair of =
=3D3D
> >>tracks. =3D3D20
> >> Now can you save?<BR>>>If so it may be your project. If =3D3D
> >>not it's=3D3D20
> >> probably your plugin.<BR>>><BR>>>Good=3D3D20
> >> luck,<BR>>>Tom<BR>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20
> >> href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
wrote
=3D
>in =3D3D
> >>message=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>news:43906b78$1@linux...<BR>>><BR>>> =3D3D
> >>Thanks for=3D3D20
> >> your suggestions.<BR>>> I have rendered using the hardware =
=3D3D
> >>method=3D3D20
> >> via adat and achieved one =3D3D3D<BR>>>nice<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>compact stereo=3D3D20
> >> track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved all=3D3D20
> >> audio<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>>files<BR>>> on new folder and =3D3D
> >>saved=3D3D20
> >> under new name I used the clear missing =3D3D20
> >> files<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>>just<BR>>> before that but =3D3D
> >>again no luck=3D3D20
> >> when I put a stereo native effect on =3D3D3D<BR>>>this=3D3D20
> >> stereotrack<BR>>> even without hitting play when I =3D3D
> >>try to=3D3D20
> >> save assertion fails and =3D3D3D<BR>>>doesn't<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>allow of any=3D3D20
> >> save !<BR>>> Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when =
=3D3D
> >>I hit=3D3D20
> >> SAve ...<BR>>> rEGARDS,<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> dIMITRIOS<BR>>><BR>>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> >> =3D
=
>href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20
> >> wrote:<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> =3D3D
> >>
> >> >Dimitrios,<BR>>> >Rendering is your answer. =3D3D
> >>Don't=3D3D20
> >> render tracks with plugins. In =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >the right side=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>>won't have=3D3D20
> >> any effect. Double check to see that their timing is=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>correct<BR>>> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >too.<BR>>> >Some people have problems with=3D3D20
> >> that.<BR>>> >Tom<BR>>> > "erlilo" =3D3D
> >><<A=3D3D20
> >> href=3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> =
wrote in
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>message=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>news:43900b57$1@linux...<BR>>> > =3D3D
> >>There you=3D3D20
> >> have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and=3D3D20
> >> look<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >after=3D3D20
> >> that=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > each stereopair is starting =3D3D
> >>and ending=3D3D20
> >> at the same places will do<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>>the<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >job=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D
> >>when saving=3D3D20
> >> under a new name, just to be sure to go back if=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>something<BR>>> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >are=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > going wrong again. If the =3D3D
> >>time=3D3D20
> >> alignments are going wrong in some<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>>of =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >the=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > stereofiles, you can =3D3D
> >>rendering the=3D3D20
> >> old, hard way, as in version =3D3D
> >>2,<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >when=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > mixing down each =3D3D
> >>stereopair with=3D3D20
> >> panning hard left and right and =3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =
=3D3D
> >>>muting=3D3D20
> >> all=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > other tracks. Then you can =3D3D
> >>import them=3D3D20
> >> into the project again on =3D3D3D<BR>>>their<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >old=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D
> >>places and=3D3D20
> >> give them new names.<BR>>> ><BR>>> =3D3D
> >>> =3D3D20
> >> Erling<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> =3D3D
> >>
> >> > "Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20
> >> href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
skrev
=3D
>i =3D3D
> >>melding=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>
> >> > ><BR>>> > > =3D3D
> >>Hi,<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> > > Thanks for your replies.<BR>>> > =3D3D
> >>>=3D3D20
> >> What I have managed is to have the same start and end for =3D
>both=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>audio<BR>>> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >files<BR>>> > > just by cutting at cursor =3D3D
> >>pointy=3D3D20
> >> on both tracks.<BR>>> > > Buit insight the =3D3D
> >>stereo=3D3D20
> >> tracks each of themhas different cut =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>>points<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >and=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D
> >>>=3D3D20
> >> joint<BR>>> > > points , does this=3D3D20
> >> matter?<BR>>> > > If you ask me why it is =3D3D
> >>because=3D3D20
> >> these tracks are not actually =3D3D3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >but<BR>>> > > two =3D3D
> >>takes of=3D3D20
> >> acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>parts<BR>>> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >on=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > > each<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>
> >> > > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on =3D3D
> >>time.<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> > > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the =3D3D
> >>stereo=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>perspective<BR>>> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >of=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > > them<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>
> >> > > pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> > > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening =3D3D
> >>knob ??=3D3D20
> >> !!<BR>>> > > Amazing stereo result with =3D3D
> >>complete mono=3D3D20
> >> compatibility , not like<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>
> >> >waves=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > > =3D3D
> >>imager<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> > > at all...<BR>>> > >=3D3D20
> >> Cheers,<BR>>> > > DImitrios<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> > ><BR>>> > ><BR>>> =3D3D
> >>> =3D3D20
> >> > "Ennio" <<A=3D3D20
> >> =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20
> >> wrote:<BR>>> > >>The in-points (and =3D3D
> >>out-points) on=3D3D20
> >> both sides of the stereo file<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>>must<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>
> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >be<BR>>> > >=3D3D20
> >> at<BR>>> > >>the identical spot - down to =3D3D
> >>the=3D3D20
> >> sample (the furthest down you =3D3D3D<BR>>>can =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >go=3D3D20
> >> on<BR>>> > > the<BR>>> > =3D3D20
> >> >>zoom tool)<BR>>> > =3D3D
> >>>><BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> > >>"erlilo" <<A=3D3D20
> >> href=3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> =
wrote in
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>message=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>news:438f4d36@linux...<BR>>> > =3D3D
> >>>>>=3D3D20
> >> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>different<BR>>> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >holes<BR>>> > >>in<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>> =3D3D20
> >> >>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>>> > =3D3D20
> >> >>><BR>>> > >>>=3D3D20
> >> Erling<BR>>> > >>><BR>>> =3D3D
> >>> =3D3D20
> >> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20
> >> href=3D3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
skrev
=3D
>i=3D3D20
> >> melding=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > >>> <A=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&=
n=3D3D=3D
>
> >>bsp;=3D3D20
> >> > >>> ><BR>>> > >>> =3D3D
> >>>=3D3D20
> >> Hi,<BR>>> > >>> > I have almost =3D3D
> >>finished my=3D3D20
> >> project mixing and when I try to =3D3D3D<BR>>>put =3D3D
> >>a<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> ><BR>>> > >>> =3D3D
> >>>=3D3D20
> >> stereo<BR>>> > >>> > =3D3D
> >>native<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> > >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix =3D3D
> >>when I=3D3D20
> >> try to save I<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >always<BR>>> > > get<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>> =3D3D20
> >> >>> > assertion<BR>>> > >>> =3D3D
> >>>=3D3D20
> >> failed and cannot save either on same name or =3D3D
> >>other...<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> > >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo =3D3D
> >>effects=3D3D20
> >> as I did =3D3D3D<BR>>>before<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >but<BR>>> > >>don't<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> > >>> > know why Paris doesn't let=3D3D20
> >> to...<BR>>> > >>> >=3D3D20
> >> Regards,<BR>>> > >>> >=3D3D20
> >> Dimitrios<BR>>> > >>><BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> > >>><BR>>> > =3D3D20
> >> >><BR>>> > >><BR>>> =3D3D
> >>> =3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> ><BR>>> =3D3D
> >>><BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> ><BR>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =3D3D
> >>4.0=3D3D20
> >> Transitional//EN"><BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> ><HTML><HEAD><BR>>> ><META=3D3D20
> >> http-equiv=3D3D3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D3D3D"text/html; =
=3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >charset=3D3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>>> ><META=3D3D20
> >> content=3D3D3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =3D3D
> >>name=3D3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> ></HEAD><BR>>> ><BODY=3D3D20
> >> bgColor=3D3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> >> face=3D3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >> size=3D3D3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>Rendering is =
=3D3D
> >>your answer.=3D3D20
> >> Don't<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >render=3D3D20
> >> tracks=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> >with plugins. In stereo the right =
=3D3D
> >>side=3D3D20
> >> </FONT></DIV><BR>>> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> >> face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>face=3D3D3D3D3DArial =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>>size=3D3D3D3D3D2>have=3D3D20
> >> any=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> >effect. Double check to see that =3D3D
> >>their timing=3D3D20
> >> is correct =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >too.</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =3D3D
> >>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> >> face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>Some people have =
problems=3D3D20
> >> with<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >that.</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =3D3D
> >>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> >> face=3D3D3D3D3DArial =3D3D
> >>size=3D3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>>style=3D3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D3D20
> >> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =3D3D
> >>5px;<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =3D3D
> >>0px"><BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> > <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D3D20'=
>mail=3D
>to:erl=3D3D
> >>ilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D3D3D20</A><BR>>>&n=3D3D
> >>bsp;=3D3D20
> >> > wrote in message <A=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
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> >>ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=3D3D
> >>ere</A><BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >you have=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>> the=3D3D20
> >> problem. I think rendering the tracks and look after =
that=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>><BR>each<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> ><BR>>> > stereopair is starting and ending at =3D3D
> >>the=3D3D20
> >> same places will do the =3D3D3D<BR>>>job =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =
=3D3D20
> >> ><BR>when=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > saving under a =3D3D
> >>new name,=3D3D20
> >> just to be sure to go back if something =3D3D3D<BR>>>are =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> ><BR>going=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > wrong again. =3D3D
> >>If the time=3D3D20
> >> alignments are going wrong in some of =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>>the=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> > <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, =3D3D
> >>as in=3D3D20
> >> version<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>>2,<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >when=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > <BR>mixing down =3D3D
> >>each=3D3D20
> >> stereopair with panning hard left and right =
=3D3D3D<BR>>>and=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >muting=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D
> >>all=3D3D20
> >> <BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the =
project=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>again<BR>>> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >on=3D3D20
> >> their=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > old <BR>places and =3D3D
> >>give them new=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> >>>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>"Dimitr=3D3D
> >>ios"=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> > <<A href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:m=
usu=3D
>rgio=3D3D
> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >skrev =3D3D
> >>i=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> > melding <A=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D3D<BR>>>>href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
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R>&=3D
>=3D3D
> >>g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=3D3D
> >>><BR>&g</A>=3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >t;=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > Hi,<BR>> Thanks =3D3D
> >>for your=3D3D20
> >> replies.<BR>> What I have managed is to=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>>have=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D20
> >> the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by =3D3D
> >>cutting=3D3D20
> >> at<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>>cursor=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> > pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the =3D3D
> >>stereo tracks=3D3D20
> >> each of<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >themhas=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > different cut points =3D3D
> >>and=3D3D20
> >> <BR>> joint<BR>> points , does =3D3D
> >>this=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> > matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these =3D3D
> >>tracks=3D3D20
> >> are not<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >actually=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > stereo =3D3D
> >>but<BR>> two=3D3D20
> >> takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =
=3D3D20
> >> >tomove=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > different parts on =3D3D
> >><BR>>=3D3D20
> >> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>>make=3D3D20
> >> them=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > on time.<BR>> I want =3D3D
> >>a stereo=3D3D20
> >> effect because I wanna expand the =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >stereo=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > perspective of =3D3D
> >><BR>>=3D3D20
> >> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and =3D3D
> >>hard=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> > right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's =3D3D
> >>stereo=3D3D20
> >> widening =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >knob ??=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>> =3D3D20
> >> !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono =3D3D
> >>compatibility ,=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >not =3D3D
> >>like=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> > waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at =3D3D
> >>all...<BR>>=3D3D20
> >> Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D20
> >> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio"=3D3D20
> >> <<A=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
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D20'>=3D
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> =
>>:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D3D3D20</A><BR>&g=3D3D
> >>t;> =3D3D20
> >> > wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on =3D3D
> >>both=3D3D20
> >> sides of the =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>>stereo=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> > file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the =3D3D
> >>identical spot -=3D3D20
> >> down to the =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>>sample=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D20
> >> (the furthest down you can go on<BR>>=3D3D20
> >> the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D20
> >> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo"=3D3D20
> >> <<A=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlil=
o@o=3D
>nlin=3D3D
> >>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> >> wrote in<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >message=3D3D20
> >> <A=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>>href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:4=
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>4d36=3D3D
> >>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >Is it=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D
> >>exactly the=3D3D20
> >> same length on each stereo files or no =3D3D
> >>different=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> > holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the=3D3D20
> >> stereo=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> >>objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>>&n=3D3D
> >>bsp;=3D3D20
> >> > Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> =3D3D
> >>"Dimitrios"=3D3D20
> >> <<A=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:m=
usu=3D
>rgio=3D3D
> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> >> skrev<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>>i =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >melding=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > <BR>>>> =3D3D
> >>
> >> <A=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>>href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
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> >>3D'>news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>=3D3D
> >>;>>&g=3D3D3D3D</A>=3D3D3D<BR>>><BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >t;=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > ><BR>>>> =3D3D
> >>>=3D3D20
> >> Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >finished my=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > project mixing and =3D3D
> >>when I=3D3D20
> >> try to put a <BR>>>> >=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>> =3D3D20
> >> stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > =3D3D
> >>effect on=3D3D20
> >> any =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >audio=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>> track on=3D3D20
> >> any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >get<BR>>>>=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > > =3D3D
> >>
> >> assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >same name=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>> or=3D3D20
> >> other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >stereo=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D
> >>effects as=3D3D20
> >> I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > =3D3D
> >>know=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >why=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D
> >>Paris doesn't=3D3D20
> >> let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>>=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> >>=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> >>>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>&g=3D3D
> >>t;<BR>>><BR>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> >=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> >><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR>>=3D3D
> >>> =3D3D20
> >> ><BR>>> =3D3D
> >>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><!DOCTYPE=3D3D20
> >> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> >>Transitional//EN"><BR>>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>><=3D3D
> >>META=3D3D20
> >> http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>>><META =3D3D
> >>content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20
> >> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> >>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>>>=3D3D
> >></HEAD><BR>>><BODY=3D3D20
> >> bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> >>size=3D3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV>&=3D3D
> >>lt;FONT=3D3D20
> >> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Are you saying you can save =
=3D
>before=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> >>this<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>>stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>>>plugin</FONT ><=3D3D
> >>/DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> >> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>is inserted? I'd say you may =
have =3D
>=3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>>a=3D3D20
> >> rouge=3D3D3D20<BR>>>plugin=3D3D20
> >> that</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >> size=3D3D3D3D2>your wrapper or Paris just doesn't =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>>>like.=3D3D20
> >> Try=3D3D3D20<BR>>>the same=3D3D20
> >> thing</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >> size=3D3D3D3D2>in a different project. ie: Same=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>stereo=3D3D3D20<BR>>>plugin=3D3D20
> >> inserted</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >> size=3D3D3D3D2>on another stereo pair of tracks. =
=3D3D3D<BR>>>Now can
=3D
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> >>
> >> =3D3D
> >>you=3D3D3D20<BR>>>save?</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV>=3D3D
> >><FONT=3D3D20
> >> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>If so it may be your project. =
If =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>>not=3D3D20
> >> it's=3D3D3D20<BR>>>probably your=3D3D20
> >> plugin.</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >> size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D3D
> >></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> >> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Good=3D3D20
> >> luck,</FONT></DIV><BR>>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> >>size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D3D20=3D3D
> >><BR>>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D3D20
> >> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D3D3D<BR>>>BORDER-LEFT:
=3D
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> >>#000000=3D3D20
> >> 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>>> =3D3D
> >><DIV>"Dimitrios"=3D3D20
> >> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:m=
usu=3D
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> >>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> >> wrote in =3D3D3D<BR>>>message=3D3D3D20<BR>>> <A=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
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> >>'>news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=3D3D
> >>;<BR>Than</A>=3D3D3D<BR>>>ks=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware =
=3D3D
> >>method=3D3D20
> >> via<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>>adat=3D3D3D20<BR>>> and achieved one =3D3D
> >>
> >> nice<BR>compact stereo track with my acoustic =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>>guitars, I=3D3D20
> >> even=3D3D3D20<BR>>> saved all audio files<BR>on new =3D3D
> >>folder and=3D3D20
> >> saved under new name I =3D3D
> >>used<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>>the=3D3D3D20<BR>>> clear=3D3D20
> >> missing files just<BR>before that but again no luck when =
I=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>put a=3D3D3D20<BR>>> stereo native effect on =3D3D
> >>this=3D3D20
> >> stereotrack<BR>even without hitting =3D3D3D<BR>>>play=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D20<BR>>> when I try to save assertion fails and=3D3D20
> >> doesn't<BR>allow of any save=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>!<BR>Note=3D3D3D20<BR>>> that assertion =3D3D
> >>failure=3D3D20
> >> appears ONLY when I hit SAve=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> ...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom =3D3D
> >>Bruhl"=3D3D20
> >> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
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>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D3=
D20'>=3D
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> =
>>:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D3D20</A><BR>&g=3D3D
> >>t;> =3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> >>wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>R=3D3D
> >>endering=3D3D20
> >> is your=3D3D3D20<BR>>> answer. Don't render tracks with =3D3D
> >>plugins.=3D3D20
> >> In=3D3D3D20<BR>>> stereo<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>the right =3D3D
> >>
> >> side=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>won't have any =3D3D3D<BR>>>effect.=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D20<BR>>> Double check to see that their timing is=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>>correct<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>too.<BR>>Some=3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>> =3D3D
> >>"erlilo"=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>><<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlil=
o@o=3D
>nlin=3D3D
> >>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> >> wrote in =3D3D3D<BR>>>message <A=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR'>ne=
ws:=3D
>4390=3D3D
> >>0b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>> There=3D3D3D20<BR>>> you have the problem. I =
=3D3D
> >>think=3D3D20
> >> rendering the tracks and look=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>after=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> that=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> each stereopair is starting and ending at =
=3D3D
> >>the=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>same=3D3D3D20<BR>>> places will do=3D3D20
> >> the<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>job=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> when saving=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>under a new=3D3D3D20<BR>>> name, just to be =3D3D
> >>sure to go back=3D3D20
> >> if =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>>something<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D3D3D20 <BR>=3D3D
> >>>=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D20<BR>>> going wrong again. If the time alignments are =
=3D3D
> >>going=3D3D20
> >> wrong in some of=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D3D20
> >> stereofiles, you can rendering the =3D3D3D<BR>>>old, =3D3D
> >>hard=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D20
> >> way, as in version 2, =3D3D3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >>mixing down=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>each=3D3D3D20<BR>>> stereopair with panning =3D3D
> >>hard left and=3D3D20
> >> right and =3D3D3D3D<BR>>muting=3D3D3D20<BR>>> =3D3D
> >>all=3D3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D3D20
> >> other tracks. Then you can import them into the=3D3D20
> >> =3D3D3D<BR>>>project=3D3D3D20<BR>>> again on=3D3D20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT><BR>>I have a =
major problem=20
with this cause some of the tracks of submix 1` cannot<BR>>be =
rendered=20
neither with no native plugins...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is this because you are flying them =
in from=20
another program? I'd record them in Paris if =
this</FONT></DIV><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>is the case. Then apply stereo plugs =
(native) to=20
tracks. Rendering is not needed.</FONT>
<DIV><BR>>Is there any tip using the digital spdif in out to have =
all in=20
time and alligned?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Just the BT loop technique. You'll need to use sampleslide =
or=20
equivilent to time</DIV>
<DIV>align.<BR>>I have read that spdif out-in is 1 sample =
latent.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes 1 ms.</FONT></DIV><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT>
<DIV><BR>The problem is that I have to record via spdif via actual =
levels and=20
then<BR>when I import should leave them at 0 point level, right =
? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As long as levels are right I'd just leave them.</DIV>
<DIV><BR>or do it the other way around ?</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't understand exactly what you =
are saying=20
here. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><BR><BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR >>Sorry I had a gig last =
night. Do as Erling suggested regarding =
=3D<BR>>rendering<BR>>all=20
tracks and copying to a new folder. Start a new Paris project =
and=20
=3D<BR>>call<BR>>it something different. Go to audio =
window and=20
import all newly =3D<BR>>rendered<BR>>files you need. Set =
a new=20
record path too. Make sure saves work after<BR>=3D<BR>>each =
step.=20
=3D20<BR>>In original project make sure all effects being used have =
been=20
saved =3D<BR>>individually. In old project<BR>>copy all =
mixer=20
settings in Mixer A (You discovered this last week!), =3D<BR>>open =
new=20
project and paste=3D20<BR>>all mixer settings in its Mixer A. =
Try to=20
save right after this and =3D<BR>>every step. Close Mixer A =
in new=20
project<BR>>then reopen it. This should make all the plugins=20
'appear'. Just a =3D<BR>>quirky Paris thing.<BR>>Now get =
those=20
presets working in each plugin. Try a save. If all is=20
=3D<BR>>well do these same steps<BR>>across all Submixes until =
all=20
Mixers/plugins are the same as original =3D<BR>>project. Try =
a=20
save.<BR>>Now might be a good time to try your stereo plugin that =
causes=20
your =3D<BR>>problem in the old<BR>>project. If after it's =
installed=20
in the new one, you can save then =3D<BR>>you're almost out of the=20
woods.<BR>><BR>>If you were using automation you will need to =
copy that=20
too. Go to =3D<BR>>Automation Editor A in old =
project.<BR>>Select=20
Volume, Set Now Line to beginning of project. Use 'Select All'=20
=3D<BR>>command or drag<BR>>across all 16 tracks with mouse to =
highlight=20
everything. Control C =3D<BR>>(copy). Go to new=20
project,<BR>>put Now Line at beginning of project in Automation =
Editor and=20
make sure<BR>=3D<BR>>active track is the first one that was =
active<BR>>on=20
the old project when copying. Otherwise your data may paste a track=20
=3D<BR>>or two off. The effects<BR>>return automation has to be =
done=20
separately from tracks. After this, go<BR>=3D<BR>>to original =
project=20
and select Mute.<BR>>Copy paste etc.. Repeat these steps on =
all auto=20
editors that were being<BR>=3D<BR>>used.<BR>><BR>>It sounds =
harder than=20
it really is. Remember to try saving between =
each<BR>=3D<BR>>step in=20
new project.<BR>>If at any time it doesn't want to save, you have =
found out=20
why there is<BR>=3D<BR>>a problem. Possibly<BR>>an unknown =
bug.=20
=3D20<BR>><BR>>Good luck. You'll be a better man for=20
it!<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>> "erlilo" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
href=3D"news:43918529@linux">news:43918529@linux</A>...<BR>> =20
Dimitros<BR>><BR>> My way of doing this is:<BR>> =
Have=20
Paris closed,<BR>> make a new folder on the audio harddisk =
with=20
Explorer or something=3D20<BR>> similar(I'm using=20
TotalCommander).<BR>> Copy ONLY waves or/and PAF files from =
the old=20
project into the new =3D<BR>>folder.<BR>> Start a new =
project in=20
Paris.<BR>> Import from the new folder all the Waves and PAF =
files=20
you need into =3D<BR>>the new=3D20<BR>> project and set =
the path to=20
the new project.<BR>> In Ediit menu, set the files into the =
subgroups=20
and channels you wish.<BR>> Now you have a new project =
without any=20
old, saved information at all =3D<BR>>to=3D20<BR>> start =
from=20
scratch.<BR>> It's important that all files are rendered to =
start=20
from zero in the =3D<BR>>old=3D20<BR>> =
project.<BR>><BR>> =20
If this doesn't help and the earlier rendered stereofiles have=20
=3D<BR>>absolutelly=3D20<BR>> correct lenghts, I can't =
think of other=20
things than plugin problems.<BR>><BR>> Hope this can help =
to=20
explain my way of doing something with this=20
kind<BR>=3D<BR>>of=3D20<BR>> =
problems.<BR>><BR>> =20
Erling<BR>><BR>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i =
melding=20
=3D<BR>>news:43917c01$1@linux...<BR>> ><BR>> =20
><BR>> > Sory if I ask much but the way I do the =
project=20
rebuild does not =3D<BR>>help.<BR>> > How do you do a =
rebuild=20
?<BR>> > I just go to audio folder export audio objects or =
wave=20
files under a<BR>=3D<BR>>new<BR>> > folder then save =
the new song=20
and then reopen from new folder.<BR>> > I guess you might =
refer to=20
something different here right ?<BR>> > Can you explain =
your way=20
?<BR>> > Thanks<BR>> > Regards,<BR>> =
>=20
Dimitrios<BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>> =20
>>Dimitrios,<BR>> >>I agree with Erlilo. =
Try=20
different channels or a different<BR>> >>submix if you=20
can. Otherwise rebuilding the mix from<BR>> =
>>scratch in=20
a new project is the next best bet. Copy all<BR>> =
>>mixer=20
settings and presets of effects to make it easier.<BR>> =20
>>Tom<BR>> >><BR>> =
>><BR>> =20
>><BR>> >> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message =3D3D<BR>> =20
>>news:43908331$1@linux...<BR>> >><BR>> =20
>> Dimitrios, You probably know this, but just to make=20
sure...<BR>> >> If you want to use stereo native =
plugins,=20
you can NOT have any =3D<BR>>mono =3D3D<BR>> =20
>>plugins<BR>> >> on those tracks. That =
goes for=20
native and EDS.<BR>> >> Do you have any mono eds =
or=20
native plugs also on the stereo pair?<BR>> >> =20
Rod<BR>> >> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> >> ><BR>> >> =
>Dear=20
Tom,<BR>> >> >It is not the plugin under other =
song I=20
can open a stereo native<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>>effect.<BR>> >> >In my project I =
cannot open=20
ANY stereo effect.<BR>> >> >Even chainer=20
only...<BR>> >> >I can save my project no =
problem if I=20
don't use a stereo native =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>>effect.<BR>> >> >ALSO on submix 3 I =
managed=20
toopen a stereo native effect but not<BR>=3D<BR>>on =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>>submix<BR>> >> >1 or 4 , any =
suggestion=20
?<BR>> >> >Regards,<BR>> =
>> =20
>Dimitrios<BR>> >> ><BR>> =
>> =20
>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> >> >><BR>> =
>> =20
>><BR>> >> >>Dimitrios,<BR>> =
>> >>Are you saying you can save before this stereo=20
plugin<BR>> >> >>is inserted? I'd say =
you may=20
have a rouge plugin that<BR>> >> >>your =
wrapper or=20
Paris just doesn't like. Try the same thing<BR>> =
>> =20
>>in a different project. ie: Same stereo plugin=20
inserted<BR>> >> >>on another stereo pair =
of=20
tracks. Now can you save?<BR>> >> =
>>If so it=20
may be your project. If not it's probably your =
plugin.<BR>> =20
>> >><BR>> >> >>Good=20
luck,<BR>> >> >>Tom<BR>> =
>> =20
>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
message=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >> =20
>>news:43906b78$1@linux...<BR>> >> =20
>><BR>> >> >> Thanks for your=20
suggestions.<BR>> >> >> I have =
rendered using=20
the hardware method via adat and =3D<BR>>achieved =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>>one =3D3D3D<BR>> >> =
>>nice<BR>> =20
>> >> compact stereo track with my acoustic =
guitars, I=20
even saved =3D<BR>>all =3D3D<BR>> =
>>audio<BR>> =20
>> >=3D3D3D<BR>> >> =20
>>files<BR>> >> >> on new =
folder and=20
saved under new name I used the clear =3D<BR>>missing =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>>files<BR>> >> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =20
>> >>just<BR>> >> =
>> before=20
that but again no luck when I put a stereo native =3D<BR>>effect=20
on<BR>> > =3D3D<BR>> =
>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =20
>> >>this stereotrack<BR>> >> =20
>> even without hitting play when I try to save =
assertion=20
fails<BR>=3D<BR>>and<BR>> > =3D3D<BR>> =20
>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >> =
>>doesn't<BR>> =20
>> >> allow of any save !<BR>> =
>> =20
>> Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit =
SAve=20
...<BR>> >> >> rEGARDS,<BR>> =
>> >> dIMITRIOS<BR>> >> =20
>><BR>> >> >> "Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> >> >> ><BR>> =20
>> >> ><BR>> >> =
>> =20
>Dimitrios,<BR>> >> >> =
>Rendering is=20
your answer. Don't render tracks with=20
plugins.<BR> =3D<BR>>In<BR>> > =3D3D<BR>> =
>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >> =
>>stereo<BR>> =20
>> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>> >> =20
>> >the right side=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =
>> =20
>> >won't have any effect. Double check to see =
that their=20
timing<BR>=3D<BR>>is<BR>> > =3D3D<BR>> =20
>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >> =
>>correct<BR>> =20
>> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>> >> =20
>> >too.<BR>> >> >> =
>Some=20
people have problems with that.<BR>> >> =
>> =20
>Tom<BR>> >> >> > =
"erlilo" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
message=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >> =20
>>news:43900b57$1@linux...<BR>> >> =
>> =20
> There you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks=20
=3D<BR>>and =3D3D<BR>> >>look<BR>> =
>> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>> =20
>> >> >after that=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =20
>> >> > each stereopair is starting =
and=20
ending at the same places =3D<BR>>will<BR>> > =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>>do<BR>> >> =3D3D3D<BR>> =
>> =20
>>the<BR>> >> >> =
=3D3D3D3D<BR>> =20
>> >> >job=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =
>> =20
>> > when saving under a new name, just to be =
sure to go=20
back if<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >> =20
>>something<BR>> >> >> =20
=3D3D3D3D<BR>> >> >> =20
>are=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> >> >> =
> going=20
wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong =3D<BR>>in=20
=3D3D<BR>> >>some<BR>> >> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >> >>of =
=3D3D3D3D<BR>> =20
>> >> >the=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =
>> =20
>> > stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard =
way, as=20
in =3D<BR>>version<BR>> > =3D3D<BR>> =20
>>2,<BR>> >> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =
>> =20
>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>> >> >> =20
>when=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> >> >> =
> =20
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=3D<BR>>right=20
=3D3D<BR>> >>and =3D3D3D<BR>> >> =20
>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>> >> >> =
>muting=20
all=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> >> >> > =
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>>their<BR>> >> >> =20
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Erling<BR>> >> >> ><BR>> =20
>> >> ><BR>> >> =
>> =20
> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i =
melding=20
=3D3D3D3D<BR>> >> >> =20
>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>> >> =
>> =20
> ><BR>> >> >> > =
>=20
Hi,<BR>> >> >> > > Thanks =
for=20
your replies.<BR>> >> >> > =
> What=20
I have managed is to have the same start and end=20
for<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >>both =
=3D3D3D<BR>> =20
>> >>audio<BR>> >> =
>> =20
=3D3D3D3D<BR>> >> >> =
>files<BR>> =20
>> >> > > just by cutting at =
cursor pointy=20
on both tracks.<BR>> >> >> > =
>=20
Buit insight the stereo tracks each of themhas=20
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>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >> =
>>points<BR>> =20
>> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>> >> =20
>> >and=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> >> =
>> =20
> > joint<BR>> >> >> =
> =20
> points , does this matter?<BR>> >> =
>> =20
> > If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not=20
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>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >> =
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>> >> =3D3D3D3D<BR>> >> =20
>> >but<BR>> >> >> =
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> two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove =
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>on=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> >> >> =
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the=20
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>> > > I want a stereo effect because I wanna =
expand=20
the stereo<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >> =20
>>perspective<BR>> >> >> =20
=3D3D3D3D<BR>> >> >> =20
>of=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> >> >> =
> >=20
them<BR>> >> >> > > =
pl;aying hard=20
left and hard right.<BR>> >> >> =
> =20
> Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening =
knob<BR>=3D<BR>>??=20
=3D3D<BR>> >>!!<BR>> >> =
>> =20
> > Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility =
,<BR>=3D<BR>>not<BR>> > =3D3D<BR>> =20
>>like<BR>> >> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =20
>> >>=3D3D3D3D<BR>> >> =
>> =20
>waves=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> >> >> =
> >=20
imager<BR>> >> >> > > at=20
all...<BR>> >> >> > >=20
Cheers,<BR>> >> >> > >=20
DImitrios<BR>> >> >> > =20
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>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I agree =
with Erlilo.=20
Try =3D3D<BR>> >>different =
channels=3D3D20<BR>> >>or=20
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face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>submix if you can. Otherwise=20
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> =3D3D<BR>> >>stereo=3D3D20<BR>> =
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>>project.=20
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=3D3D<BR>> =20
>>tracks. =3D3D20<BR>> >> Now can you=20
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track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved all=3D3D20<BR>> =20
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Edna,
By chance are you using a P4 chip? If so make sure
Hyperthreading is turned off in your BIOS. That can really=20
ruin a nice day in Paris.
Tom
"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message news:4392fb60@linux...
Hi Cujo,
Unfortunately, I was not able to save it. Paris would not let me do
anything at all until I responded to the error window and then it was =
all
gone! I tried to pull up the project window or do anything but it was =
a
hard freeze.
Since I only had a single submix going and was only using a couple =
effects
in the aux module on one channel, I was surprised to get this error. =
I have
a gig of memory and a fast processor as well. I am using XP pro with =
SP1
though.
Thanks,
E
"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
news:4392898b$1@linux...
>
>
> Hey E,
> THis is one of my fave's cause I can actually help.
> If you see this error, stop what you are doing, do not respond to =
the
error
> message on the screen, get to the project window and save the =
project
under
> a new name (songV2 or something) and the let paris crach, your =
project
will
> be A OK when you get paris back up!
>
>
> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
> >Has anyone been able to interpret just what this message means? =
And
> >basically what causes it? I only had 8 tracks recorded and was =
working
> on
> >aux effects on the piano track which I had copied, delaying the =
copy,
> >shifting the pitch, and then panning them L and R. After working =
most
> of
> >the day on the project, this error appeared but I wasnt able to =
save the
> >project and since I hadn't remembered to save the project earlier I =
lost
> it
> >all. Think I will call it a day! :-(
> >
> >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Edna,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>By chance are you using a P4 =
chip? If so make=20
sure</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hyperthreading is turned off in your =
BIOS. =20
That can really </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ruin a nice </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>day in=20
Paris.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Edna" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:edna@texomaonline.com">edna@texomaonline.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:4392fb60@linux">news:4392fb60@linux</A>...</DIV>Hi=20
Cujo,<BR>Unfortunately, I was not able to save it. Paris would =
not let=20
me do<BR>anything at all until I responded to the error window and =
then it was=20
all<BR>gone! I tried to pull up the project window or do =
anything but it=20
was a<BR>hard freeze.<BR>Since I only had a single submix going and =
was only=20
using a couple effects<BR>in the aux module on one channel, I was =
surprised to=20
get this error. I have<BR>a gig of memory and a fast processor =
as=20
well. I am using XP pro with=20
SP1<BR>though.<BR>Thanks,<BR>E<BR><BR>"Cujo" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com">chris@nospamapplemanstudio=
..com</A>>=20
wrote in message<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"news:4392898b$1@linux">news:4392898b$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&g=
t;<BR>>=20
Hey E,<BR>> THis is one of my fave's cause I can actually =
help.<BR>> If=20
you see this error, stop what you are doing, do not respond to=20
the<BR>error<BR>> message on the screen, get to the project window =
and save=20
the project<BR>under<BR>> a new name (songV2 or something) and the =
let=20
paris crach, your project<BR>will<BR>> be A OK when you get paris =
back=20
up!<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Edna" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:edna@texomaonline.com">edna@texomaonline.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> >Has anyone been able to interpret just what this =
message=20
means? And<BR>> >basically what causes it? I only =
had 8=20
tracks recorded and was working<BR>> on<BR>> >aux effects on =
the=20
piano track which I had copied, delaying the copy,<BR>> =
>shifting=20
the pitch, and then panning them L and R. After working=20
most<BR>> of<BR>> >the day on the project, this error =
appeared but I=20
wasnt able to save the<BR>> >project and since I hadn't =
remembered to=20
save the project earlier I lost<BR>> it<BR>> >all. =
Think I will=20
call it a day! :-(<BR>> ><BR>> =
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------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C5F92F.47A9B2D0--"DC" <dc@spamsafari.com> wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>
>Just a heads up for us remaining Mac fans.
>
>Avoid Firefox 1.5 for OSX. (it's the current release)
>
>It's pretty buggy. The worst issue is it's refusing to quit out and
>keeping the computer from shutting down.
>
>I went back to 1.0.4 and everything is fine again.
>
>DC
>
So far I’m lovin’ 1.5. It’s very fast. I haven’t had any shutdown issues
on my G5. What other bugs do you know about?
GeneI'm lovin' 1.5 on PC. I especially like the "save all tabs" feature. I have
my standard browser window with my two web email accounts and the Paris newsgroup
all in seperate tabs, and now I can simply select "Open in tabs" and it will
open all three pages in their own tabs in one swift move. Very cool.
Haven't had any issues, but of course it is a different platform...
Cheers,
Kim.
"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>"DC" <dc@spamsafari.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>Just a heads up for us remaining Mac fans.
>>
>>Avoid Firefox 1.5 for OSX. (it's the current release)
>>
>>It's pretty buggy. The worst issue is it's refusing to quit out and
>>keeping the computer from shutting down.
>>
>>I went back to 1.0.4 and everything is fine again.
>>
>>DC
>>
>
>So far I’m lovin’ 1.5. It’s very fast. I haven’t had any shutdown issues
>on my G5. What other bugs do you know about?
>Gene
>"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>So far I’m lovin’ 1.5. It’s very fast. I haven’t had any
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